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null | Eirenarch | null | When I become emperor of the word HTML and JavaScript will be banned for anything but actual web sites that display data and have simple actions like blogs, Wikipedia or a system to buy airplane tickets. Anything more complex becomes a desktop app with proper tech. Anyone caught writing a desktop app in JS and HTML is ... | null | 1 | 1491901530 | False | 0 | dg41qvp | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t3_64oqaq | null | 1493974107 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | BeepBoopBike | null | I knew salaries were higher, but not that much higher otherwise I might have considered it when I was there, happy abroad though now, but thanks for the insight :) | null | 0 | 1491901571 | False | 0 | dg41rdy | t3_64jymy | null | null | t1_dg41n68 | null | 1493974113 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | IGI111 | null | Well there's (spac)emacs and (neo)vim, but that's not exactly the same userbase.
Notepad++ perhaps? | null | 0 | 1491901606 | False | 0 | dg41rsm | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg41drx | null | 1493974118 | 18 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Theon | null | Telemetry? | null | 0 | 1491901637 | False | 0 | dg41s5h | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg41q0c | null | 1493974123 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Creshal | null | WxWidgets is the ugliest framework I've ever had the misfortune to use. Even as an end user you *know* which apps use Wx, because they're always incredibly ugly.
Qt needs more exposure, though. It's cross platform done *right*. | null | 0 | 1491901672 | False | 0 | dg41sih | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg3y6w4 | null | 1493974129 | 78 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | TheAnimus | null | Also to get that money the work is most often very boring, infuriatingly managed or very long hours. Maybe all 3. | null | 0 | 1491901702 | False | 0 | dg41sv9 | t3_64jymy | null | null | t1_dg41rdy | null | 1493974133 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | LordofCarbonFiber | null | Something that may scratch your itch then. [Matrix](http://matrix.org). Open source protocol for federated chat; it definitely feels like IRC for the 21st century. | null | 0 | 1491901766 | False | 0 | dg41tnx | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg40foj | null | 1493974144 | 24 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | vijeno | null | Damn.
I was just about to make a screenshot.
I restarted the app, now I have 3 processes: 15, 24, 26MB.
https://imgur.com/a/uBVsr
Odd. Very odd. | null | 0 | 1491901817 | False | 0 | dg41u8o | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg41j6z | null | 1493974151 | -2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | UplinkCoder | null | sizeof is a property of the type-system.
It has nothing todo with underlying implementation.
floating point is allowed in pure functions.
As long as the rounding-mode is defined and ieee floats are used, we should be good :) | null | 0 | 1491901828 | False | 0 | dg41udo | t3_64jfes | null | null | t1_dg41lvz | null | 1493974153 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | cullend | null | ...you guys know you don't have to load the whole executable into memory, right? | null | 0 | 1491901834 | False | 0 | dg41ufg | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg4139g | null | 1493974154 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | ZettTheArcWarden | null | well its not like electron is too careful about eating up system resources anyway | null | 0 | 1491901876 | False | 0 | dg41uyr | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg41q0c | null | 1493974161 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | meheleventyone | null | Basically working very hard on something you care about feels good and as you don't notice the productivity decline like a frog in boiling water. I've collected that t-shirt before!
A boss has three duties of care though.
One to the employee to make sure they are taking care of themselves and to avoid exploiting the... | null | 0 | 1491901880 | False | 0 | dg41v05 | t3_64jd9r | null | null | t1_dg41gqv | null | 1493974161 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Theon | null | For the remaining 94% of desktop users, Qt looks very much fine, though. In Windows it's pretty much indistinguishable from native apps, and Linux is kind of cheating, because it literally is the native framework (for KDE anyway). | null | 0 | 1491901953 | False | 0 | dg41vu5 | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg3zt2i | null | 1493974173 | 44 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Apocalyptic0n3 | null | To be fair again, it is possible (and recommended) to bundle the AIR runtime with apps for Desktop and Android and not require AIR nor Flash be installed on the system at all, just like Electron. On iOS, the entire app and runtime are compiled down to iOS byte code automatically (rather than running AS3 at runtime like... | null | 0 | 1491902052 | False | 0 | dg41wze | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg40p86 | null | 1493974188 | 17 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | jasie3k | null | > It's still fast and I don't give a damn if it eats up RAM I'm not using or takes idle CPU cycles. That overhead is nothing and if it allows them to keep releasing new builds and implementing new features fast, there's no question if it's worth it.
Well, those empty cycles matter for battery life. | null | 0 | 1491902113 | False | 0 | dg41xoq | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg3zoak | null | 1493974197 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | amunak | null | You are correct but I think that makes Electron even worse. Since now you have multiple copies of it in various stages of non-updateness, wasting your resources and potentially compromising security. | null | 0 | 1491902185 | False | 0 | dg41yhq | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg40p86 | null | 1493974208 | 17 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | gypsydrifter | null | You're not really "wrong" it's just that I doubt that people would appreciate things forcing them to wait.
Seriously though, I wonder what the best interfaces will be that encourage critical thinking...we have science, we should check this out! | null | 0 | 1491902211 | False | 0 | dg41ysh | t3_64idzl | null | null | t1_dg41qi4 | null | 1493974212 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Indyaner | null | Hey there. Where do we now a days meet up for Air Related Discussions and general talk? StackOverflow is ok'ish, but are there others places were we can talk about latest releases, changelogs, ANE and those things?
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null | eclectro | null | There's something here more applicable to engineering in general than just a software app.
>You can make your app good enough very quickly
Perfect, cheap, fast. Choose any two. My guess is they chose the latter two to get it out the door. | null | 0 | 1491902240 | False | 0 | dg41z3z | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg40t8n | null | 1493974216 | 80 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | dongas420 | null | This is a filler clause, and would Of Mice and Men be best experienced by watching a film adaptation or by reading the original book? | null | 0 | 1491902346 | False | 0 | dg420bg | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg41np8 | null | 1493974232 | 24 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Schmittfried | null | Which is fairly reasonable when we are talking about a simple chat application. I'm neither a web developer (apart from more or less hobby projects) nor did I begin with managed languages like C# and Java. Originally I came from C++. But like hell would I ever use C++ for a simple GUI application again. That's just was... | null | 0 | 1491902351 | False | 0 | dg420di | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg3zuiq | null | 1493974233 | 19 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | ceberous | null | where is the source code ? also , I tried to upload a song. But your default one keeps playing. are you retarded ? | null | 0 | 1491902369 | False | 0 | dg420lo | t3_64kiju | null | null | t3_64kiju | null | 1493974236 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | net_goblin | null | > In fact, I think the APIs work with in the modern web are way better than the APIs that exist on desktop.
Although I don't agree with the author on this one, there is already an alternative: QML which is part of Qt. It's not exactly lightweight, but compared to Electron/Chromium that doesn't show. | null | 0 | 1491902382 | False | 0 | dg420rm | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t3_64oqaq | null | 1493974238 | 16 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Incursi0n | null | None of the Electron apps I have use smoothscroll | null | 0 | 1491902403 | False | 0 | dg4210g | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg41duj | null | 1493974241 | 10 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | i-hate-animals | null | An IDE was a bad example, think in terms of finished software. If you had a target load time of 5 seconds for your application, and tomorrow a new CPU comes along that's twice as fast, a lot of devs would still target 5 seconds and use the extra power to give themselves more leeway and build more bloated apps (which is... | null | 0 | 1491902409 | False | 0 | dg4212f | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg415te | null | 1493974242 | 29 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Sprokes | null | Wasn't this posted a week ago? | null | 0 | 1491902440 | False | 0 | dg421fu | t3_64ph7k | null | null | t3_64ph7k | null | 1493974246 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Voidsheep | null | > What's so impossible about alternatives? Sublime text works perfectly fine on many platforms while being fast.
Then why do many developers use VSCode instead of Sublime Text?
If anything, it indicates the difference in performance or bundle size is irrelevant to vast majority of the users.
> Now you might no... | null | 0 | 1491902472 | 1491902733 | 0 | dg421ub | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg40tud | null | 1493974253 | 73 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | jmtd | null | perhaps it's smart enough to recognise titles (helped by your accurate capitalisation) | null | 0 | 1491902490 | False | 0 | dg4221c | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg420bg | null | 1493974255 | 19 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | hvidgaard | null | It's not designed for telemetry. | null | 0 | 1491902545 | False | 0 | dg422oo | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg41s5h | null | 1493974264 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | wavemode | null | null | 1 | 1491902575 | False | 0 | dg4231o | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg41n9f | null | 1493974268 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null | |
null | iindigo | null | This. Any time I'm looking into writing something for a non-Apple platform the only thing I can think about is how much I wished [insert platform] had its own AppKit/UIKit implementation. It's got s few quirks, as all toolkits do, but once you're familiar with it, it's great for creating silky and efficient user experi... | null | 0 | 1491902577 | False | 0 | dg42330 | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg414zg | null | 1493974269 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Schmittfried | null | >flawless
Cool story bro. | null | 0 | 1491902607 | False | 0 | dg423fz | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg3zwel | null | 1493974273 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | b3k_spoon | null | THANK YOU.
I'm fucking tired of software bloat, and the carelessness of developers about performance.
I have a 1yr old laptop that I only use with Linux. Windows has been almost constantly at 100% disk since I bought it, and now I found out that "system" randomly hogs the CPU every 10-some minutes for a minute. It's a... | null | 0 | 1491902608 | False | 0 | dg423gi | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t3_64oqaq | null | 1493974274 | 108 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | bureX | null | Electron is just grabbing your web app and turning it into an exe, or the linux/mac equivalent.
I completely understand it simplifies things because you don't have to rewrite everything for 3 different platforms, and I have nothing against alternative UIs on the desktop, but the resource intensiveness is just plain wr... | null | 0 | 1491902611 | False | 0 | dg423hf | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg40bn8 | null | 1493974274 | 10 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | LukeTheFisher | null | Steam feels like it should be way more bloated with all it has tacked on. It sometimes runs a bit sluggish but I can honestly appreciate just how little RAM it uses. It also makes sense considering it needs to interfere as little as possible with the programs it launches when they often end up consuming most of your re... | null | 0 | 1491902645 | False | 0 | dg423w1 | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg3zqk5 | null | 1493974279 | 16 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Schmittfried | null | Please explain why Haskell is not very practical. It's being used for massive projects in practice. | null | 0 | 1491902665 | False | 0 | dg4243t | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg406k8 | null | 1493974282 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | lebogglez | null | There's a JavaScript binding for Qt as well, so you can use Typescript as well. Next excuse please? | null | 0 | 1491902682 | False | 0 | dg4249d | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg406k8 | null | 1493974285 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Apofis | null | I took a look at Free Pascal approximately a year ago and I found it to be really appealing language. I didn't code anything serious in it though. One would think that, being compiled to machine code, FreePascal would be faster than Java, but [these benchmarks](http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/u64q/pascal.html)... | null | 0 | 1491902696 | False | 0 | dg424f7 | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg40bcb | null | 1493974286 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | steamruler | null | >Not to mention I can write the whole thing in TypeScript (with its crazy powerful type system) and use any NPM packages I want (to do basically anything).
With Qt, I can write the whole thing in C++ (with its crazy powerful type system) and use any C/C++ libraries I want (to do basically anything).
;) | null | 0 | 1491902729 | False | 0 | dg424so | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg3z9k6 | null | 1493974292 | 13 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | FarkCookies | null | > and why in gods name anyone would want their search tool to handle that instead of handling it themselves
splunk is not a search tool, it is log collection/monitoring tool. I still have no idea why you keep arguing without doing minimal research.
> What I'm asking is what these alerts are
http://lmgtfy.com/... | null | 0 | 1491902764 | False | 0 | dg4257j | t3_64ap2d | null | null | t1_dg41ix7 | null | 1493974297 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | ShinyHappyREM | null | > [Qt](https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/dj2c4/over_the_years_i_have_used_countless_apis_to/)
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null | AmbKosh | null | LOL | null | 0 | 1491902840 | False | 0 | dg42614 | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg3z7sn | null | 1493974308 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | i-hate-animals | null | People really try to avoid using Java for desktop applications because it's got a really bad reputation of being associated with corporate BS. It's a mindshare problem more than anything.
People complain that they won't use Java for their desktop applications because it's slow and bloated -- and then go and build thei... | null | 0 | 1491902853 | False | 0 | dg42668 | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg3zcv6 | null | 1493974310 | 30 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | skocznymroczny | null | that looks pretty nice actually, too bad there's no Tree component :( | null | 0 | 1491902900 | False | 0 | dg426pg | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg41obm | null | 1493974318 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | steamruler | null | It didn't raise too much fuzz because it was so short.
We're really good at optimizing away repetitive tasks, since we need to. To prevent it, we need to make it non-repetitive by switching it up.
I don't feel like solving mazes or playing Simon Says just to close a dialog though. | null | 0 | 1491902914 | False | 0 | dg426uh | t3_64idzl | null | null | t1_dg41ysh | null | 1493974319 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Rhym | null | You could probs grab the code from http://blueprintjs.com/docs/#core/components/tree and use fabric classes to style it. The whole thing is open source, so chuck in a feature request :D https://github.com/OfficeDev/office-ui-fabric-core/blob/master/ghdocs/CONTRIBUTING.md | null | 0 | 1491903038 | False | 0 | dg4285w | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg426pg | null | 1493974337 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | [deleted] | null | I wish there was something like that for binary files created by programs written in VB6 using the functions put and get, so I can figure out how to read them with other languages. | null | 0 | 1491903050 | False | 0 | dg428ba | t3_64otm1 | null | null | t3_64otm1 | null | 1493974339 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Agent_Phantom | null | Hi, I usually frequent these forums:
* [Starling Framework](https://forum.starling-framework.org/)
* [Flex Users](http://apache-flex-users.2333346.n4.nabble.com/)
* [Flex Devs](http://apache-flex-development.2333347.n4.nabble.com/) | null | 0 | 1491903095 | False | 0 | dg428sp | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg41yyq | null | 1493974345 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | luhem007 | null | Haha, I've been up voting both sides of the argument this whole thread. I've programmed GUI applications in visual c++, qt (c++), gtk (python), swing (Java) and electron.
I can definitely understand why people use electron. You can make so much cool looking stuff on very little time and with out needing to much more a... | null | 0 | 1491903098 | False | 0 | dg428ud | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg40v6v | null | 1493974345 | 41 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | ReversedGif | null | IRC still exists and is pretty popular... | null | 0 | 1491903113 | False | 0 | dg4290f | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg40foj | null | 1493974348 | 11 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | lordluke10 | null | I've used electron, i know how it works?
Something is wrong with Slack, but Discord is a also a voice client with always active websocket connections, a lot more features than slack and some OS integrations. 300 MB is on the big side, but it's not ridiculous and it's nowhere near the 2 GB RAM that the author's Slack a... | null | 0 | 1491903140 | False | 0 | dg429ar | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg423hf | null | 1493974351 | 17 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | hakkzpets | null | Perfect encompasses fast, so you'd be stupid not picking "perfect" and "cheap". | null | 0 | 1491903149 | False | 0 | dg429ev | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg41z3z | null | 1493974353 | -3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | specialpatrol | null | I think the accusatory tone is a little off. I'm sure all devs want to make fast, light apps. But by there very nature that requires *work*. I think the question here is; is it fair to use modern computer resources to allow more people to make more applications more easily, by allowing those apps to use up said resourc... | null | 0 | 1491903162 | False | 0 | dg429ki | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg4212f | null | 1493974355 | 10 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | LeNextGen | null | What's wrong is that you get only functional gain but always performance loss. | null | 0 | 1491903219 | False | 0 | dg42a9j | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg415te | null | 1493974365 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | brokething | null | What's CEF?
Edit: Nevermind, I figured it out. [Chromium Embedded Framework](https://bitbucket.org/chromiumembedded/cef) | null | 0 | 1491903240 | False | 0 | dg42ahd | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg3xji9 | null | 1493974368 | 144 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1491903254 | False | 0 | dg42an1 | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg41drx | null | 1493974370 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | threading | null | > JS devs are dime a dozen, found on every corner
That's because entry barrier is too low for Javascript. That's why you get too see people who actually think they're devs. Electron is one of the results of this. They probably honestly think they develop desktop software. | null | 1 | 1491903275 | False | 0 | dg42aux | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg41prg | null | 1493974373 | 16 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | thesbros | null | Chromium Embedded Framework. Essentially a lighter version of Electron, which is meant to be embedded in an application, and where the backend is controlled via C++ (or a lot of other languages using bindings), rather than JS. | null | 0 | 1491903349 | 1491903670 | 0 | dg42bny | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg42ahd | null | 1493974383 | 126 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Euphoricus | null | Why programmers?
Shouldn't it be managers and business people who should be pushing for security and putting money into making their software secure? Isn't security just another functional requirement that should be juggled among many other requirements? | null | 0 | 1491903422 | False | 0 | dg42cjg | t3_64pa1v | null | null | t3_64pa1v | null | 1493974394 | 20 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Krillo90 | null | Well also, you don't have to install the Slack app, you can run it in a browser tab. | null | 0 | 1491903440 | False | 0 | dg42cqt | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg40r0g | null | 1493974397 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Voidsheep | null | Sure, I won't argue using resources requires energy, that's a fact.
But how many minutes you think I'd get out of my battery life if I used Sublime instead of VSCode?
And how likely is that Chromium itself minds battery life and does optimisation the developer wouldn't consider?
Would you want to bet on which softwa... | null | 0 | 1491903566 | False | 0 | dg42e6a | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg41xoq | null | 1493974417 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | specialpatrol | null | If it were just that, it might not be a such an issue; afterall we have more performance so using it on functionality is what it's for. The tragedy is that the performance loss is technically unnecessary. | null | 0 | 1491903592 | False | 0 | dg42eh9 | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg42a9j | null | 1493974421 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Kok_Nikol | null | thanks | null | 0 | 1491903600 | False | 0 | dg42ekh | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg41ak2 | null | 1493974423 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | twiggy99999 | null | You clearly haven't ever worked with COBOL then, comparing it to a PHP7 application is laughable | null | 0 | 1491903611 | False | 0 | dg42eoq | t3_64jymy | null | null | t1_dg3rl22 | null | 1493974424 | 11 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | rasjani | null | I think we are both correct: https://www.quora.com/What-is-spotify-Windows-Mac-GUI-app-built-in -- albeit thats a reply from 2013 so things could have changed since ..
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null | MarshallOfSound | null | JavaFX in my opinion doesn't have anywhere near the speed / ease of development that electron apps get through web technology build pipelines. Hot reloading the entire UI without relaunch simply can't be beaten imo.
Sure their are alternatives to Electron but there's a reason everyone uses it :D | null | 0 | 1491903740 | False | 0 | dg42g5b | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg41q4h | null | 1493974443 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Nition | null | As /u/IGI111 mentioned, there is Notepad++. | null | 0 | 1491903752 | False | 0 | dg42ga7 | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg41drx | null | 1493974445 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Voidsheep | null | > It's so weird to me that all ST's serious competition is Electron-based. Your options are basically "a handful of open-source, well-designed, user-friendly electron tanks running an entire browser so you can edit your .bashrc"
And this right here is the billion dollar question the article misses. There's a *reaso... | null | 0 | 1491903854 | False | 0 | dg42hdv | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg41drx | null | 1493974460 | 26 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | MarshallBanana | null | On average, what percentage of an executable would you say gets loaded into memory? | null | 0 | 1491903911 | False | 0 | dg42i14 | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg41ufg | null | 1493974468 | -2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | ----_____--------- | null | No one says that there are no benefits in electron, and no one says that devs don't understand that they have embedded chrome.
The issue is that by now these companies working together could have made an efficient native framework (with updates, notifications and everything) 5 times over. Maybe it could even use javas... | null | 0 | 1491903917 | False | 0 | dg42i3f | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg421ub | null | 1493974469 | 10 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Laaas | null | I couldn't really understand the part about the virtual ISA in the article: is it JIT-compiled (to native machine code) or not? | null | 0 | 1491903974 | False | 0 | dg42iq2 | t3_64jfes | null | null | t1_dg2kxye | null | 1493974477 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | The_frozen_one | null | > We can do much better.
Are you proposing either developing or funding the development of something better? | null | 1 | 1491903982 | False | 0 | dg42itu | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg41a4l | null | 1493974479 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Eirenarch | null | cross-platform should not be that high on the list of priorities. Quality should be of higher priority. | null | 1 | 1491904001 | False | 0 | dg42j1s | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg3znlf | null | 1493974482 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | mothzilla | null | Could of done better. | null | 0 | 1491904081 | False | 0 | dg42jx5 | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg3xvgh | null | 1493974494 | -6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | could-of-bot | null | It's either could **HAVE** or could**'VE**, but never could **OF**.
See [Grammar Errors](http://www.grammarerrors.com/grammar/could-of-would-of-should-of/) for more information. | null | 0 | 1491904083 | False | 0 | dg42jxt | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg42jx5 | null | 1493974494 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | -manabreak | null | Po-tay-to, po-tah-to. | null | 0 | 1491904098 | False | 0 | dg42k3l | t3_64jymy | null | null | t1_dg3jxto | null | 1493974496 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | kitanokikori | null | No, it really does mean WTF, Slack doesn't use that framework | null | 0 | 1491904143 | False | 0 | dg42kls | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg3zn9p | null | 1493974503 | 11 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | twiggy99999 | null | The rates for programmers in the UK is significantly lower than the US, but our cost of living is much lower than the US. I seen people quoting 500+ a month just for basic health cover | null | 0 | 1491904171 | False | 0 | dg42kxj | t3_64jymy | null | null | t1_dg3yb41 | null | 1493974507 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | BeepBoopBike | null | Very interesting read, recommend it. | null | 0 | 1491904210 | False | 0 | dg42lfb | t3_64pocv | null | null | t3_64pocv | null | 1493974513 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | willbeddow | null | No, sorry, I wasn't recording it. Plus even if I was it would have confidential client information.
It wasn't all that exciting to see actually. Basically, UI elements just started spinning for a long time and kicking up weird errors, and stuff would say it was completed when it definitely wasn't. | null | 0 | 1491904317 | False | 0 | dg42mlx | t3_64idzl | null | null | t1_dg3qr2u | null | 1493974529 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | i-hate-animals | null | I'm sorry if that came off as accusatory. I understand why people would want to use electron, but that doesn't mean the problem isn't a very real one. It's not a black and white issue.
I don't think things like Electron are the answer. Sublime Text is a great example of a very fast, very light app that looks and funct... | null | 0 | 1491904367 | False | 0 | dg42n65 | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg429ki | null | 1493974537 | 18 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Poromenos | null | You need quotes around that for it to be completely grammatic, btw. | null | 0 | 1491904520 | False | 0 | dg42oxo | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg420bg | null | 1493974560 | 20 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | specialpatrol | null | I think I totally agree with you. I think it's the current platform choice out there that is so difficult to support; making an app that is both for phones (both/all), and desktop. | null | 0 | 1491904636 | False | 0 | dg42qbd | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg42n65 | null | 1493974579 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | BeepBoopBike | null | That would be $6000 a year, bearing in mind although the NHS is free at the point of use, we pay for it via taxation. Granted I didn't pay anywhere near 6k for my healthcare, but even if it was completely free, the salary difference outstrips the difference in cost of living from what I can tell. By comparison I was ma... | null | 0 | 1491904672 | False | 0 | dg42qq0 | t3_64jymy | null | null | t1_dg42kxj | null | 1493974584 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | kadetPirx | null | And the animation! Look at it! VW Beetle compression! http://imgur.com/a/CyQwX | null | 0 | 1491904734 | False | 0 | dg42rf8 | t3_64p87j | null | null | t3_64p87j | null | 1493974593 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | The_frozen_one | null | > My gut feeling says it should be possible with the current state of things, assuming there's a library for doing the rendering and events parts for HTML content, but I have done zero research on it at the moment.
Yea, just use chromium for rendering with a modified version of v8 for JS. And node for the main proc... | null | 0 | 1491904743 | False | 0 | dg42rj6 | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg402le | null | 1493974595 | 155 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Poromenos | null | He means "fast to develop". | null | 0 | 1491904756 | False | 0 | dg42ro4 | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg429ev | null | 1493974596 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Chii | null | that would give you a proper version (or revision hash) match between the different repos. You will have to make a commit in the master repo that updates each submodule to a "valid" version, and this validity is proved by the build passing! I'd say that's an advantage (for what normally is a disadvantage/inconvenience ... | null | 0 | 1491904756 | False | 0 | dg42ro9 | t3_64jm07 | null | null | t1_dg3ylnj | null | 1493974596 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 1 | 1491904916 | False | 0 | dg42tib | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg424so | null | 1493974621 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | FINDarkside | null | WPF is not cross platform so it's really not an alternative. | null | 0 | 1491904949 | False | 0 | dg42tx1 | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg3ykm7 | null | 1493974627 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Poromenos | null | Why do you hate car dashboards!? What's wrong with futuristic-looking gauges?! | null | 0 | 1491904964 | False | 0 | dg42u2u | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg3zqhs | null | 1493974629 | 9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | EscapeTrajectory | null | Are you lazy for using the knowledge you have to create something? | null | 0 | 1491904998 | False | 0 | dg42uhg | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg3yfbx | null | 1493974634 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Poromenos | null | That's the point. Nobody *wants* them to look the same on different platforms. We want them to look *integrated*. | null | 1 | 1491905006 | False | 0 | dg42uko | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg4018c | null | 1493974635 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Voidsheep | null | > Maybe it could even use javascript, just without, you know, a browser in it.
That browser is one of the key parts why they desire to use Electron. Tooling and expertise to handle the UIs cross-platform is there already. Of course there's a cost to it, but apparently it's well worth it in many cases.
Maybe there'... | null | 0 | 1491905018 | 1491905737 | 0 | dg42upo | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg42i3f | null | 1493974637 | 22 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | ----_____--------- | null | There's a **lot** of waste. It's wrong to think that productivity benefits are proportional to available hardware resources. Otherwise according to the moore's law we would be writing software thousands of times faster than in 90's. But in reality you probably get like a 20% development speedup with 80% more hardware r... | null | 0 | 1491905023 | False | 0 | dg42urq | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg410oc | null | 1493974639 | 96 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | The_yulaow | null | it is not crossplatform | null | 0 | 1491905073 | False | 0 | dg42vdg | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg41rsm | null | 1493974646 | 11 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1491905083 | False | 0 | dg42vhz | t3_64jymy | null | null | t1_dg2y7aw | null | 1493974648 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | MuppetMaster42 | null | But if you can reuse your existing website with minimal tweaks, and provide access to extra desktop apis (consistent push notis, chromeless window, etc) then why wouldn't you?
Building a new native app for each platform requires a lot of time and expertise. And having a separate code base for each platform makes opera... | null | 0 | 1491905151 | False | 0 | dg42wc2 | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg3ywea | null | 1493974660 | 34 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | jugalator | null | He picks a heavy desktop application example, then points to doing it in React Native instead of Electron to avoid a ton of cruft. Then links to the React Native main page which seems to pretend only mobile device targets exist for it.
React Native now does iOS, Android, **macOS** and **Windows**. :) (I don't think Li... | null | 0 | 1491905246 | 1491905954 | 0 | dg42xd3 | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t3_64oqaq | null | 1493974673 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | wldmr | null | Could of course’ve done better. | null | 0 | 1491905273 | False | 0 | dg42xo4 | t3_64oqaq | null | null | t1_dg42jx5 | null | 1493974677 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
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