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codekiller
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I have tried Xamarin. I like that Microsoft made it free, but it essentially forces me to work within Visual Studio on Windows or Xcode on Mac and I typically develop on a Linux machine. And there is still more work than I expected in order to support both Android and iOS in parallel.
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asdfzxcvzxcv
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Hey, that buggy, slow PoS could do [this](http://wa.zozuar.org/code.php?c=3lNM) in 2009 (on IE6).
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MrStickmanPro1
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Both are garbage, Java is fine.
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p1-o2
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WinForms what the FUCK is UP? Yisss.
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frugalmail
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Java has a fix for the --memory issue already committed: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk9/jdk9/hotspot/rev/5f1d1df0ea49
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dg4t3up
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marinespl
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Being able to run everywhere doesn't speed up development.
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LtAramaki
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Ironically I have no Flash so I can't see what you're talking about :D But what Flash could do in 2009, Shockwave before it could do 2001, and Java applets could do in 1995, so...
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flying-sheep
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And is flexible. What prevents you from bringing it to 100%?
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ryjen78
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there is also only so much you can teach without putting the school at legal risk....
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lordluke10
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Electron was made specifically for Atom dude
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melonangie
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is the engineer the same one that deleted aws prod server? are they related? that would be funny
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The_frozen_one
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Absolutely. I didn't want it to sound like I thought lower level knowledge of how stuff like malloc works is entirely unimportant. I agree that being aware how much memory is allocated for different objects is an thing that most people aren't concerned with. For simple scripts, this is fine. But knowing how things ar...
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asdfzxcvzxcv
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Yeah :) it's a real time 3D (software, obviously) and audio synth demo. At the time Flash had like 99% market share, and it was kinda nice to only worry about a single runtime's set of bugs.
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lordluke10
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[VS Code is built on Electron](https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/04/microsofts-new-code-editor-is-built-on-googles-chromium/)
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False
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dg4tqwk
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doom_Oo7
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> With something like QT you might get windows, mac, linux. With a LOT of work and the paid version, you can eek out an ios and android version. Uh, no. There is no additional complexity involved in developing android and ios apps with Qt, apart from installing the respective SDKs; and you can [publish LGPL code on...
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dg4trli
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iScrE4m
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That's just different demographic, Discord is for gamers. With that said, I think it's better than Slack, but I wouldn't want to force it on any of my colleagues.
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flying-sheep
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You have to manually wrap those sidebars into `QScrollView`s or however they're called to get that behavior. So that's a programmer error not a Qt bug. But I think you should file a bug (if it doesn't exist already) for the selectbox thing. The scrolling state should linger a bit and if you continue to scroll during t...
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mfukar
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"Agile" in practice today is the exact opposite of the Agile manifesto, as I understood it. "Agile" today is about attempting to deliver 'features' so fast that the team cuts corners everywhere. If it can't be done in a sprint it's not worth doing; then we get teams complaining left and right only to tell them "oh, th...
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konistehrad
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What do we have to do to make this the top post? Both wxWidgets and Qt are C++ libraries, and writing your completely normal, day-to-day application into C++ is like taking the path through the minefield to get to the grocery.
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KABUMS
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> good-looking cross-platform native GUI applications... The **uTox** project has a very lightwight and performant GUI. They implemented every GUI control by themself based on the platforms default GUI driver. They support: - Windows - Linux/Posix - OSX - Andriod > [µTox](https://github.com/uTox/uTox) the lig...
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melonangie
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these aren't developers, they are company sysadmins running scripts
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geodel
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One just has to read limitations of it to see if it is an elaborate joke or not.
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addandsubtract
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True, I guess the perceived bloatedness and lack of performance is a big part of it. If Electron came with the OS and had a snappier, closer to OS-level feel to it, then it would be a lot more accepted among users. But just because it isn't there now, doesn't mean it won't be in a couple of years.
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SilasX
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Bu bu bu I'm a hipster that gets sexual gratification from the evolution of language!
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DevMunchies
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Can you run windows on a VM without buying *anything*? EDIT: haha downvoted. I was seriously asking. I'l get you back for this!
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-6
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SilasX
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Which the wasted CPU cycles and memory *totally* care about.
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justjanne
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> The performance between well-written Java/C# and something native like C or C++ is imperceivable for typical user-facing applications, except for specific domains where GC pauses can be an issue. Yes. But not the performance of JS
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BabyPuncher5000
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Holy shit the Spotify desktop app uses 200 megs? My foobar200 is sitting comfortably at 65 megs and it's loaded to the brim with plugins and a pretty extensive UI. I bet the Spotify app doesn't even have any options for building a decent DSP chain beyond maybe a simple graphic EQ. I hate modern desktop software.
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SilasX
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Bingo. I deal with slowdown on browser text input because JIRA and Rancher have slow-as-hell web apps...
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__crackers__
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> Visual Studio Code It works well enough. But as someone who primarily uses Sublime (or neovim), it's a pig. Opening a new window takes a stupid amount of time.
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False
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SilasX
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There was a quote from Geoffrey Hinton (deep learning pioneer) to the effect of, "Since I started working on this algorithm, I've seen a 100,000x speedup. See, computers got 1000x faster, and I started using only 1/100th of the data!
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bkv
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Same applies to JS. Modern JavaScript VMs have excellent JIT compilers. JavaScript is terrible for other reasons, but perf isn't one of them.
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JMBourguet
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Happy days those filled with anticipation.
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justjanne
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With libraries, yes.
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justjanne
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Well, there's an open source version.
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konistehrad
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Wikipedia [seems to indicate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaFX#License) that JavaFX is still under a restrictive license. I assume that means: the onboarding process for your application would include navigating your users to Oracle's JVM download page ala Android Studio before they can even run it. Conversely: yo...
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justjanne
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You can use JavaFX with: Haskell (eta), Python (JPython), Ruby (JRuby), Javascript, Java, Scala, Kotlin... That's good enough.
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barchar
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Pyqt5 has full qml support. Including plugins written in python
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royrules22
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Dear god those Audacity buttons. They look like those plastic nubs that act as buttons in cheap-o toys.
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False
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RabbidKitten
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If you use an "exotic" keyboard layout on Windows (and OS X?) that is. Never had an issue on Linux, and I'm using a keyboard layout far more exotic than US Intl, because the keyboard layout is handled by X there (does Wayland change this? if yes then it is another reason not to like it). IMO that bug report says less ...
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MySpl33n
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> Google Music for the desktop If you're not using [GPMDP (Google Play Music Desktop Player)](https://www.googleplaymusicdesktopplayer.com), check it out. It doesn't use the Electron framework. The Windows installer is decently small at 54.1 MB, the Linux installer is somewhere around 43 MB.
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justjanne
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No, not at all. V8 is only in the next versions starting to replace their JIT with a JIT that's even slightly similar to the Java JIT, and their GC is still far worse. Java's JIT and GC is still by far superior, usually by a factor of 5 or more.
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grepnork
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Annoyingly it was really the only way I could find to post the complete paper in a meaningful way. I believe it's auto-tagged as a PDF to give fair warning.
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False
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KevinCarbonara
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Wow, I didn't know Slack ran (essentially) on Chrome. I quit using Chrome a long time ago because I got tired of its bloat and Google's attempts at turning it into an 'ecosystem'. I just wanted a web browser. I get the appeal of developing for your own system (or subsystem) that you have more control over, but it's no...
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rapidsight
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The larger problem was that their CI process has no QA, and their system pulls its code source from the Internet on every launch (it would seem). Edit: At least if it was C, I could rest assured that the people running it knew what they were doing, having overcame the barrier to entry. As they have demonstrated to m...
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Kukuluops
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> Would it be feasible to build a desktop application framework that still used HTML/CSS for describing the UI, node for the application code and be cross platform, while not actually embedding a whole browser. JavaFX is actually pretty usable. It is not exactly HTML/CSS, but follows the same paradigm.
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th0masr0ss
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>These two things are related. Designing a well polished Qt/C++ app is somewhere else effort-wise and manhour-wise than Electron app. In practice, it doesn't happen, like I've shown you with examples. There are also a lot of unpolished electron programs. I also think that if we take a look at the people who care ab...
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Brjl
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You just need to ask yourself one question to see why I think even 20% is being generous: Why are websites today taking upwards of 15 seconds to fully load when 15 years ago being over 3 seconds was unacceptable despite having vastly superior processing power today? We can sit around and blame this and that, cloud an...
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flyinglotus1983
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Sublime text is both beautiful and very fast. A decent example, however they're not using off the shelf toolkits, they've got quite a lot of custom code and it's probably not something that's easily copied.
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False
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that_90s_guy
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> Its a text chat program Oh, come on...It's also kind of a stretch of the author to call Slack _only_ a text chat program.
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False
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mlewand
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It's using two at the same time? That actually surprises me. So that might be kind of a reason for high CPU usage, if they go with one it would be much better. Steam does a decent job in terms of CPU with CEF, though their UI is one of the worst in the market.
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False
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flying-sheep
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I meant all UI elements. Photoshop would work perfectly if all menu items, buttons and sliders are at the same positions, but the style is OS native
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False
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dg4uyan
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RabbidKitten
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There's also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON0A1dsQOV0 although I wish they elaborated more about what were their problems besides communicating with GTK devs. Personally, I prefer GTK both API-wise, and for how it looks and feels, but I have to admit that Qt is miles better for making cross-platform UIs. The ...
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False
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flying-sheep
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Exactly: Those pieces should be free (no performance cost) when not used, and there's no reason to use any amount of CPU power when idle.
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dg4v2ls
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duheee
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i meant bananas.
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False
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bobappleyard
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> I should probably just be programming in TypeScript if I have a problem with this. You should!
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RabbidKitten
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Swing has a feature called "Pluggable Look and Feel", you can make your app look like whatever you want. It is the default look and feel that sucks.
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False
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PointyOintment
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According to the post, they're no longer going to operatre that way.
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False
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PointyOintment
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According to the post, they're no longer going to operatre that way.
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False
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that_90s_guy
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Not only that, but Flash required you to install Flash Player on any computer for it to run. Electron apps on the other hand pack everything they need to run on any machine. It's downside is of course obnoxiously heavy apps. Then again, you often have to fight between time, quality, and cost...and you can guess which...
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skerit
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> Turns out you can write performant software using web technologies if you're not shit. Exactly. Try installing a random NPM package and look at the bajillion of packages in the node_modules directory. It's crazy. Now I'm not saying you shouldn't re-use existing modules, but you should be aware how deep the rabit...
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False
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killerstorm
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> My gut feeling says it should be possible with the current state of things, assuming there's a library for doing the rendering and events parts for HTML content, but I have done zero research on it at the moment. https://sciter.com/ It's used for UI of pretty much all anti-virus product. I've used it (or, rathe...
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Na__th__an
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Be sure to record any opportunities to improve as action items.
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MuonManLaserJab
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But it just selects clip-art...that's not the same as drawing.
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False
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that_90s_guy
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Yeah...don't even try, you're making it worse.
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False
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killerstorm
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https://sciter.com/ Designed specifically for UI.
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False
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BabyPuncher5000
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In Windows, I've found WPF incredibly fast and easy to work with. I would like to see a UI toolkit for Linux learn from it. I have no idea what Cocoa is like in OS X though. I know a lot of people want a cross-platform toolkit but I think this makes for a bad UI (since you end up writing against a lowest common denom...
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steakyfask
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Ah ok. I must have missed the tag or it dosn't show on mobile.
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steakyfask
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Ahh, the old compromise between usability and security.
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breadfag
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We know.
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CODESIGN2
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Wasn't poorly written, and I have a love-hate relationship with WP, but it does a few things better than all other comers which is really why it's champ. The hosting industry has no love for WordPress, just as they have no love for Apache, Nginx etc. They basically just love making money and WP helps them to do that wi...
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MarshallBanana
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* No mention that you can multiply a matrix by a vector of (x, y, z) to get the simultaneous equations. That's kind of a key thing, otherwise you are just magically changing notation. * No explanation of what an "augmented matrix" really is. * No explanation of how you get a "Reduced Row Echelon Form", or how it is rel...
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that_90s_guy
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Nice bait. The biggest reason behind Java's downfall wasn't "speed", but; * Java applets were tedious for the end user since they often required having Java installed (Javascript apps are self contained) * The JVM start up time made Java apps sluggish to start (Chrome's V8 engine while not instant, has a much faster s...
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gott_modus
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I like C++, and have dealt with these kinds of issues for years. You get used to it
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BabyPuncher5000
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> Is there another mature cross-platform renderer like chromium with licensing that would work? I think we're starting with the wrong premise here. To really solve the problem we need to decouple logic code from UI code, and re-implement the UI for each target platform. This does mean extra work, but it also makes...
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that_90s_guy
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Good luck convincing a company to use IRC.
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d-burner
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Maybe you should try to write a cross platform app that works on Windows, Linux and Mac under 1-2 month with testing included.
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RabbidKitten
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> why can't Chromium be at least as light as the JVM? That perfectly illustrates the sad situation we're in - when yesterday's memory hog is today's slim design.
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gott_modus
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> WinForms Shit dude I really can't do it
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balefrost
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But buttons and forms date back to a time when it was expected that your interaction would round-trip through a server. The really only existed so that you could gather up user-provided data to ship off to the server. The HTML itself wouldn't change until it was re-rendered. That interaction paradigm has clearly change...
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2
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jackmott2
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>This is just not true. Modern languages have extremely good JIT If people were writing software from scratch with C# and Java, we would be in a much better place, but they are using javascript + electron which introduces an [absurd amount of resource overhead](https://github.com/jhallen/joes-sandbox/tree/master/ed...
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False
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29
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RikiMaro18
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Lol I like how this guy says at the end "Say no to Electron, use React native instead"... Yeah Electron is for desktop and React native for mobile so obviously this guy has no idea what's he talking about.
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Tiavor
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the only app I know of is Curse, but I don't use it. never heard of the rest. (at least in app form)
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K3wp
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Cloud is the future of gaming for 'AAA' titles, for a couple reasons. I think Diablo III is the harbinger of things to come (for non-MMO titles). Advantages: 1. No Piracy. Period. This is the most important one. 2. East/fast/forced updates. Everyone plays the same revision and bugs can be resolved quickly. 3....
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1
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Jafit
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I believe [npm v3](https://docs.npmjs.com/how-npm-works/npm3) is going to have flattened dependency folders. But I'm not sure that nested dependency folders is necessarily always the cause of poor performance.
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mirhagk
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> The Internet is overflowing with pedantry, snark, bullying, you name it. That's what I'm upset with. That folks think it's perfectly okay to condone that behavior, even participate in it. Are you really thinking that that is bullying? Do you just live in a bubble then? I'm not seriously calling you an alcoholic ...
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2
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thesbros
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It uses 120MB for me - which even though it's more than some other applications, it's still not that much and I wouldn't act like it's crazy or anything.
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phearlez
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> Agile is what you make of it. More accurately, and the underlying problem: Agile is what *your management* makes of it. Most of our careers we use the process we're ordered to and saying "the way you want me to do this is wrong" is often impossible.
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htuhola
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[It sort of works...](http://imgur.com/IbkJtc9)
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roodammy44
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As someone whose day job is writing apps in Electron, it saddened me to see this article. Mostly because it's so wrong. Apart from the fact that Spotify is in CEF and not Electron, it was Slack's architecture that is the problem. They run a full instance of Chrome for every single team you are on. In this user's case,...
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badsectoracula
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> WxThe foundational widget in wxPython is the wx.Window. Everything in wxPython, whether it's an actual window or just a button, checkbox, or text label, is based upon the wx.Window class. If there were awards for the most erroneously named class, wx.Window would be overlooked because it's so badly named that no on...
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1493988971
5
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tkannelid
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I worked at Amazon. It was fun having to ask for permission to access my team's dev database to apply a routine migration script, with several days of latency and human review.
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False
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Jeff_Johnson
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18h is too much for me. Here I back at 16h, but I have option to come earlier and then leave earlier. If I don't have problems with sleeping (insomnia), I will arrive earlier for sure.
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1
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50653
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> Considering that the WAR/App Server layer was Java's attempt at containerization before it was popular. But that doesn't have most of the features that people like about Docker.. * No filesystem isolation * No network adaptor isolation (so you have to worry about port number conflicts) * Limited resource all...
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False
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dg4wopy
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1
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Paddy3118
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Calling Granny Weatherwax a jerk shows the authors lack of comprehension of that character. Why read more?
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1493989079
-5
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NotoriousArab
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Well then, you and I have different definitions of "well enough". Edit: I will elaborate a bit. If it is a small time app or somebody that doesn't have the resources to do native development, it's totally fine. But when you are the size of Slack or Skype, to me there's no excuse.
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False
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3
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bloody-albatross
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Really? Then what about this song? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc4JbzPqups I started with the crapfest that was Windows 98. Now I run the crapfest that is Fedora Linux. It's all crap anyway.
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False
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0
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