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case-o-nuts
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Using? No. Not having full functionality fallbacks until enough alternate browsers have full support? Yes.
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iLiekCaeks
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>To be more precise, Phobos does not, and never had, a binary attribution requirement. Neither did Tango. Tango is dual licensed under the AFL, and AFL doesn't require binary attribution. The BSD binary attribution clause is not as much of a problem as you think. BSD is one of the most popular open source licenses...
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blueeit
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The one that remains apropos is that EMACS stands for Escape Meta Alt Control Shift. The default keybindings are really bad. For whatever reason, I am used to using the left-hand control key rather than the right-hand one, which makes the C-x prefix particularly awkward. At the time Emacs was originally written, keybao...
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iLiekCaeks
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And this has to do with h3r3tic's post what?
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f2u
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It's a significant effort, and it might divert resources from other projects which add new functionality which would actually make a difference for users (beyond that they can use their favorite browser together with Google services). Even for volunteer projects, development resources aren't free.
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cunningjames
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No mention of my own personal favorite (although I admit my idiosyncrasies): [optional lexical scoping](http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/DynamicBindingVsLexicalBinding#toc8). I came to Emacs relatively recently, in a world where lexical binding has long since won out. The scoping rules in Emacs just feel *bizarre* to me.
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h3r3tic
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Way to change the topic. AAAAA+++ would discuss again.
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Wonnk13
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anyone have any idea of an actual release date? edit: i have the nightlies, just wondering when it'll be official.
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Ok, that's awesome, thanks so much. It should be possible to do this in WebGL, since you can make shaders in that, right? Might make a nice tutorial.
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fokov
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Actually I think it will probably be worse. A bastard child of Oracle, Apple, and Microsoft taking all of the bad shit. Just think about all the "cloud" crap they are pushing. They want to make sure people can't get away from them.
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gullibleboy
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[TFS Adoption at Microsoft – May 2009](http://blogs.msdn.com/b/granth/archive/2009/06/23/tfs-adoption-at-microsoft-may-2009.aspx) is the latest post, I could find, about adoption of TFS at Microsoft. According to [one of charts](http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/granth/WindowsLiveWriter/TFSAdoptionatMicrosoftMay2009_FEF...
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rosetta_stoned
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> But there is Eclim which allows Emacs, Vim, etc. to have the same level of completion and language support as Eclipse. Vim talking to Eclipse via a server interface? I don't think that's a subsitute for Emacs and Semantic mode. Might as well make Emacs talk to Eclipse over the same interface if that's the route y...
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jiiyag
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[Here you go.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuous_truth) From the top: >A vacuous truth is a truth that is devoid of content because it asserts something about all members of a class that is empty or because it says "If A then B" when in fact A is inherently false. For example, the statement "all cell phones in ...
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mindcandy
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The price of open standards is eternal vigilance and all that. But before you set any cars on fire, please at least read the questionable paragraphs in full instead of just the juiciest lines. > We will strongly encourage Google developers start off targeting Chrome-only whenever possible as this gives us the best...
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chozar
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What I want to know, x86 experts, is how much the oddities of x86 have an effect on performance. Lets say the instruction set could be redone from scratch, but intel used more or less the same technology and the same process in chips. Does the x86 'cruft' have a cost in die area? What kind of performance per dollar ...
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Bravais
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Dart -> Scala -> Racket
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abomb999
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I guess in the end it's all context. For some types of math, 0^0 being undefined is logical, for others you would want 0^0 being 1; I was thinking though, after reading the OPs repsonse, are there places in math you'd want 0^0 being undefined, obviously there is. Well i'm glad you answered, thank you.
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mistralol
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I looked at TFS. Currently using cvs I have mixed code for both windows / linux + some other systems. Mixed with c# / c / c++ / java if you checkout the entire root :) For the c# stuff we have a lot of class lib's eg dll's for shared code between projects. Overall we have around 60-80 small projects in cvs. This beca...
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Shaper_pmp
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I think it's more "throw everything against the wall and see what sticks". They have enough resources that they can buy in or build in-house plenty of competing or overlapping projects, and just wait to see which (if any) take off. The ones which don't are canned (Google Gears, Google Wave, all the projects which nev...
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therapy
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That's not far from my opinion, then. But I don't see how they can have full-functionality fallbacks here: For one thing, they say only part of Dash will compile to JS, and for another, if there is a perfect fallback to JS, wouldn't they just use JS and not Dash in the first place?
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If it is completely open then it's nothing like Microsoft. I would personally like to see JS replaced or they pull their damn collective fingers out and improve the damn language without having a committee fighting over it for ages while being more concerned about themselves than consumers.
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ben0x539
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Cripes, what's up with your ffi key?
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Ventajou
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Taking a phrase out of context is pretty lame. If you take the time to read the whole document, you may understand what Google is actually trying to accomplish. I'm far from being a Google fan boy but I agree with their analysis of the state of JavaScript. Unfortunately, I'd rather see a different approach to address...
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antrn11
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Can it run vim?
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f0ster
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thank god!
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jiiyag
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You're right, it's all about context. Which is why I wish I had given [this answer](http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/kbgvc/why_00_is_questionable_and_you_should_care_when/c2j0lqs) instead of what I wrote. I think what prompted my answer last night was a counter to cgibbard's unyielding phrasing suggesting...
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s73v3r
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>bug tracker that didn't support integration with SVN (or any repository for that manner) Why the hell would you do this? There are many good, open source tools that integrate with several version control systems.
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s73v3r
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>bug tracker that didn't support integration with SVN (or any repository for that manner) Why the hell would you do this? There are many good, open source tools that integrate with several version control systems.
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case-o-nuts
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I'd expect that it would be done by hand, backporting features to existing JS, and a whole lot of other manual effort. Bootstrapping an ecosystem tends to be lots of work.
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oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy!
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MarshallBanana
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> The only "freedom" the GPL denies is to make software proprietary, i.e. to take someones code and leave the freedom bubble. Not at all. The GPL denies the right to release derivative code under *any* other license than the GPL. Not just proprietary licenses. *All* other licenses.
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Shaper_pmp
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> personally I'd just like to see `for each` in Chrome/Safari, which Firefox has apparently supported since 2005. True, but it's only really a bit of trivial syntactic sugar for: for(var key in obj) { // Do something with obj[key]... } ... which gives you access to both the key *and* the value you'r...
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Bravais
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The point is Javascript is in essence a kiddie / hobbiest language. Good for small things in a few hundred lines or less. Think of it as the equivalent of bash / shell scripting. Tons of things make perfect sense as <50 lines of bash shell script. Writing GMail or anything like it in bash would be torturous....
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s73v3r
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Most other bug systems have stuff like bugs from email built in.
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s73v3r
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>TFS basically has infinite features. Only if your time is worthless.
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[deleted]
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If they are trying to get rid of javascript I am with them 100%.
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[deleted]
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While they are at it they should also put in some mechanism whereby the browser uses my private and public keys to authenticate with web sites so I don't have to use passwords anymore.
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0
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s73v3r
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Why have you not at least moved to SVN?
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[deleted]
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The "cloud" is a good thing but it is something you should control. Rather than cutting costs to a minimum and letting someone else do everything for them companies should be building their own systems based on open standards so they're in control and can easily transition to something else when necessary.
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[deleted]
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Microsoft will never support any technology that came out of google inside of IE. That's why dash won't succeed no matter how great it is.
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Bravais
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Google needs some alternative that is freely, openly and widely available in all the major browsers (or a reasonable majority thereof) that enables large scale web applications running in a browser. JS is analgous to a say shell scripting with regards to power, abstraction and large code base scaling. What they are ...
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False
0
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[deleted]
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I hope you are right that Microsoft is no longer relevant and is no longer the big brother of today. I am afraid you are wrong though, they still control almost all of the desktop and a major chunk of the enterprise.
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RoastBeefOnChimp
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TL;DR Monolithic toolchains are a bad idea. Loose coupling and best-of-breed is better.
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False
0
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mataeus43
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If I was Google, I'd focus on my own products first and foremost.
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WalterBright
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The sticking point with BSD licenses is the binary attribution part. Tango's BSD license requires binary attribution. Phobos never had such a requirement. One cannot pick and choose a 'best of' combination of AFL and BSD licenses, even if there's a dual license. The AFL has its own problems, for example, it isn't clea...
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False
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ksowocki
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TOSAmend passes the modified terms back to the server of the website it is amending. That site is 'accepting' the agreement by allowing you to sign up with the amended terms. The impetus is on them to reject the amended terms.
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donz0r
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[Here's a simple and minimal example of how you can use menhir.](https://github.com/derdon/menhir-example)
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False
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masterblastercaster
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Uh, I'm pretty sure you can work offline and then sync up whenever the server becomes available. Writing your own plugins/clients is pretty straight forward as well. That's not to say TFS is the best source control software ever, but it's not as terrible as the article makes it seem.
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abomb999
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this math talk affects emotionally like poetry. I love it. It's all context.
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mindcandy
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Again, it's the impossible bar. "Don't do anything new that can't be emulated with the old stuff. Also, don't introduce anything new if the old stuff can already be used to emulate it." The solution has always been to have partial-feature, imperfect fallbacks while you wait for everyone else to make up their minds a...
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False
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imMute
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You "commit early and often" to your own local branch. Pushing that back to trunk/master involves a merge (or a fast-forward merge if no other changes have been committed yet).
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sebzim4500
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do american skyscrapers really miss out 13?
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Paradox
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24 versions and its still worse than vim
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False
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Wolfy87
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I love JavaScript. But I kind of like this idea. JavaScript is derived from ECMA script which was not built with the web in mind. A language with beautiful DOM and CSS interaction would be amazing. I bet it would even be possible to compile this new language to good old JavaScript.
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WTFwhatthehell
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JS is such a remarkably bad standard. it's a horrible language and appears to be one of the biggest attack vectors against browsers.
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drysart
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> the JavaScript JIT researchers are just warming up Javascript is about as fast as it's ever going to get now. Future improvements to JIT will be tiny, incremental improvements, not the orders-of-magnitude improvements we've previously seen. As Google pointed out, many of the properties that make Javascript Java...
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rs98101
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Faulty analogy. More appropriate one would be using chopsticks in lieu of the fork.
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_pupil_
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That's why Google does 2 things: 1) Make Dash compile to javascript for most functionality so that IE supports it even without MS support 2) Throw up a giant "Install Chrome" button for IE users on any product that's using Dash until it's built into IE like JS is today
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kataire
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Git + Team City + You Track + IntelliJ IDEA At least that seems like a good solution to me.
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noumuon
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i quickly glanced over your quote and read that as cylon invasion. got worried for a second.
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therapy
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There is no such impossible bar. New technologies appear on the web in a proper, standards-based way all the time. For example, WebGL, Canvas, etc.
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False
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therapy
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> If I was Google, I'd focus on my own products first and foremost. Exactly, I think almost anyone would. Which is why too much power in the hands of one corporation is dangerous.
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False
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zmeefy
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I bet you someone's gonna come in here any time now and say how they'll make Dash open and blah blah. Edit: fucking typo my fingers are thick as bananas.
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True
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doodle77
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Sounds like ASP
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False
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Peaker
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Yeah, good point. I've been too immersed in C programming in the last few years :-)
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untogethered
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They're not in a position to do that any more. They tried to push Silverlight instead of HTML5 and failed- their market share isn't high enough to do it these days.
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False
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neutronicus
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> appears to be one of the biggest attack vectors against browsers. Methinks that's going to be true of any browser scripting language.
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False
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zmeefy
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When several frogs smoke pot and they just let it rip afterwards, frog farts can just tear the leaves and sink them. It's a disaster when it happens.
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True
0
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-10
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grauenwolf
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Your statement smells of wishful thinking and an overly optimistic opinion of HTML5's current capabilities. While there has been much progress in web development, it still pales in comparison to the progress that has been made in other UI technologies.
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False
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12
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munificent
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1. Embrace: Take an *existing standard* and implement it. 2. Extend: Then take that standard and tack on non-standard features specific to that implementation. I don't see how sounds like what the document proposes, which is: 1. Create something new for which there is no standard. 2. Push to standardize it after it's...
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False
0
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42
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Ventajou
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With the recent news about certificate authorities, I'm not sure whether you're being serious or cynical.
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False
0
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-2
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grauenwolf
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An open standards process is the surest way to kill a new project.
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False
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5
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mysticreddit
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Ok, the color blind 2.0 version has been updated. It's blue themed. Let me know what you think!
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False
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1
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mysticreddit
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Color Blind 2.0 version is up. I chose a nice Blue Theme. Hope you like it!
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False
0
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2
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I doubt they can come up with something significantly better. They're not exactly known for their programming language theory.
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False
0
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1427587288
-8
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vonhollen
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Boo-hoo! They are targeting their 95% OPEN-SOURCE browser first!
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False
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19
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DasWood
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> We will strongly encourage Google developers start off targeting Chrome-only whenever possible as this gives us the best end user experience. Pretty fucking retarded of them to then remove gears from Chrome BEFORE rolling out the HTML 5 replacement for offline email, calendar, et al. Especially as this provides a...
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False
0
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iLiekCaeks
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I understand how Boost is different from BSD and why you chose it. Do you at least acknowledge that BSD is a popular open source license in industry? Anyway, this is boring, let's talk about the interesting stuff instead. The question is: why did you not communicate with Tango to solve this issue? It seems you decided...
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False
0
c2j4rf1
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-2
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I'm sorry, when did MS start allowing other browser vendors to implement ActiveX?
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False
0
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10
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mysticreddit
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We aim to please. :-) Version 2.0 is up (minor tweaks) -- you have 4 choices now including a color blind Blue Themed one.
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False
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2
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MarshallBanana
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Did you at all understand that what they are doing is trying to *oppose* the part you just quoted? They are trying to move innovation *towards* the web?
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False
0
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15
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revbobdobbs
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I just tried, from emacs 23.2.1 The answer is yes. I fired up emacs. Then within emacs I started eshell. Then in eshell, I entered 'vim'. Vim started. It looked a bit funny, like it had inserted lots of control characters or something. But it worked. Thing is, I couldn't delete the weird characters, because I don'...
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False
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7
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gonz808
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"Emacs will get this just shy of 20 years after VS" You are wrong. Xrefactory has been available for many years. Version 2 is from 2004. http://www.xref.sk/xrefactory/main.html
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False
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3
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case-o-nuts
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And they tend to show up after a working proprietary prototype is implemented. The worst standards are the ones that are declared as the definite future before their implications can be explored in code. WebGL started off as proprietary Canvas3d experiments by Mozilla, and a different incompatible implementation from...
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True
0
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5
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bdunderscore
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The goal in the end is to get other browsers to support Dash natively. Obviously, there needs to be some browser which gets Dash support _first_, and it's convenient for them to use their own browser for this.
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1315776913
False
0
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13
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MarshallBanana
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You're still missing the actual context: The idea is to implement a *new* standard in Chrome, release it openly, and try to drive other browser makers to support it by strongly using it themselves.
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False
0
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9
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Shaper_pmp
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> an overly optimistic opinion of HTML5's current capabilities The important point here is not what HTML5 has *already* achieved - innovation is measured in what's happen*ing*, not what's happen*ed*. The point I was making was that client-side/HTML5 APIs and technologies, along with mobile/geolocation-based and se...
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True
0
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4
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MarshallBanana
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The *ultimate* point is to get everyone to run Dash.
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False
0
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4
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At some point the code can only run on things Google controls. Once it's proven then others will take it on board. So long as it's open and free for anyone else to implement then it's all good. *But* they will need to do something to stop companies like Microsoft from trying to gain control of it by making their own i...
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1315777014
False
0
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1428194462
1
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crdoconnor
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Ironic - gmail has just recently started refusing to let me sign in in chrome, yet firefox works fine.
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False
0
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t3_kc9ai
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1427587330
-2
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MarshallBanana
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Maybe you should actually read the whole thing. Like, for instance, this part: > Push for Dash to become an open standard and be adopted by other browsers.
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False
0
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5
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ElSherberto
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They've accumulated an army of CS PHDs over the years. Collectively I'd say they have some of the best concentration of minds capable of doing such a thing. Not to mention their V8 JavaScript compiler. Chrome launched with V8 which shows they have a good understanding of compilers, since they wrote a JavaScript compil...
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True
0
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41
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[deleted]
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Isn't that more or less what Microsoft has been doing with IE or am I missing something?
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False
0
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10
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MarshallBanana
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You left out this part: > Dash (high risk/high reward): Develop a new language (called Dash) that aims to maintain the dynamic nature of Javascript but have a better performance profile and be amenable to tooling for large projects. **Push for Dash to become an open standard and be adopted by other browsers.** Deve...
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False
0
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159
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freeall
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I don't think the cost of their products should be why we like/dislike companies. edit: spelling
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True
0
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7
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Transceiver
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Chome not available for Android. There are more Android users than Chrome users. Hmmm.
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False
0
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t3_kc9ai
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1427587341
-4
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schmorbes
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You know I have to agree with you. I used to love Emacs but eventually I realised it was too rough around the edges.
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False
0
c2j4u5a
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t1_c2j4mjt
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1427587342
-11
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Leonidas_from_XIV
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While I appreciate that you created a bug request to improve Mercurial, why should that be priority: urgent? I don't see how it is an urgent problem with Mercurial that needs fixing asap or, some might argue, at all.
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False
0
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