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Looks like Microsoft is completely full of shit when talking about WinRT being C++ based - every example of C++ code I could find made heavy use of C++/CLI-style extensions. ***That's not C++.*** I mean, I don't really mind that they feel the need to extend the language to fit their needs. Reminds me a bit of Objectiv...
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i prefer, personally, to use free&free tools, but have used visual studio at work for more than a decade, and I have to admit that it is an excellent ide. Bloated? Sure. Way too much random shit strapped in? You bet. But it really is an excellent tool, especially the integrated debugging experience it provides.
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grauenwolf
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I don't have an answer for you yet. This session is supposed to cover what we are supposed to do. I'm pretty sure it isn't build more Windows Services. http://channel9.msdn.com/events/BUILD/BUILD2011/APP-410T
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rizla7
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how can you even compare a remote login/vnc/rdp to local OS? your argument makes no sense considering that you can't develop/debug on the device? what? the?
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piderman
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I believe the W7 preview build stopped working 30 days after the official release. They give you ample time to take out your wallet but you can't use these preview builds indefinitely :)
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there is a version that comes with Visual Studio 11 Express. Beta or similar.
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They promised a lot of improvements for Visual C++ in the next VS. And you still have the choice of using Visual Assist X to improve C++ experience. Anyway, I code in C# so idk much about it.
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fuck microsoft, apple and google (in this order)
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Gotebe
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>I'm suggesting branches are too heavyweight in SVN. I would use them for substantial diversions in development First, creating a branch is very cheap in SVN. Depending on what you're branching off, it's more costly getting the local copy of the content. Second, it looks like there's a significant difference of op...
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You're clouding the issue by comparing apples to oranges. Java the language is equivalent to C#. Java the bytecode format is equivalent to CIL. Java the VM is equivalent to .Net. Just like with CIL, there are dozens of languages targeting the Java bytecode, including cool functional languages, dynamic languages and a b...
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grauenwolf
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Seems fair to me. Thanks for the background.
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It isn't c++/CLI but something with nearly identical syntax, which means the whole idea of WinRT being based on C++ is a complete sham.
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jonnyvice
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now microsoft has joined gnome and unity in the "i'm gonna fuck up a perfectly good desktop gui up, right in the fucking ear" group
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j-posty
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Some settings that worked for me as well: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?p=200748#p200748
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henk53
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>First class support for GET in JSF? When did that happen? Can you now do more stateless/restful style urls? It happened over 2 years ago in version 2.0. You always could use 'stateless' URLs (non-POSTS), but there was no particular framework support for this. In particular this meant no (easy) way to attach conve...
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mydaum
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Yes, but I'm in Sweden.
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EvilPigeon
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This link received some love over in r\DotNet, it's a shame it didn't quite make it here. I would have liked to see some more discussion on this.
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mappu
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Yeah, I couldn't get that out of my head either. It seems like there's a vendetta against the tried-and-true desktop metaphor for no adequately explained reason other than a sort of touch-mania. Windows/gnome/etc need the quiet, continual evolution that they've been getting for the past 10 years, not these radical shi...
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stesch
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Why was the name changed?
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anonymous_hero
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You just don't want to give up, do you? In my previous message, I did acknowledge that browser vendors do get paid, even if it doesn't make sense to pay them. But yeah, let's just call it a day.
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bonzinip
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I guess to make it sound more cool? ;)
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Gotebe
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But that's exactly what I was doing with SVN. Here, a... workflow: * need a significant feature in project X of a solution Y * branch that project in "branches" * put aside local copy of the original project (e.g. rename X to X_) * get branched project into "X" * work loop: change, commit, merge from trunk ("main"), i...
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deverdev
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He didn't win either. As much as some people like notch, there were 12 people in this competition alone that produced better games (for whatever definition of better) than notch. And noone mentions them as heroes since they are not loudmouth selfpromoters like notch is.
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rizla7
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that isnt an IL. java is the language so it can't be the IL. they are simply x-compilers targetting the java bytecode. :\ how can java be faster if it doesn't use native code? sure, it can, but its a pain in the ass whereas .net runtime calls native code directly. i'd like to see some of your evidence for this. nobody...
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crappykoreabot
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Try hitting Start+D, [Link](http://www.winrumors.com/windows-8-classic-desktop-features-video/). You should be able to switch between the standard desktop and metro desktop easily.
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meddlepal
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It would be a lot of work to provide separate "dialects" of a language. The best that could be done is to provide, per-organization strong coding guidelines that prohibits certain things; for example, in my mind the worst thing Scala offers is the ability to invent new operators (yes I am aware operators are just metho...
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itsmeee
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Definitely virtualbox it.
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keithb
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It would be nice if more discussions of marginal languages paid more attention to social and economic factors in this way. Many language communities seem to image that their language deserves to do well on its technical merits alone and resent the suggestion that this is unlikely to occur.
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itsmeee
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http://www.sysprobs.com/guide-install-windows-8-virtualbox Great guide. I was having trouble on my i5 iMac under VMware Fusion but a quick google and a few setting changes later it was up and running :) edit: Reread the guide and your CPU needs to support Hardware Virtualization Technology (VT) or it will hang wit...
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itsmeee
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http://www.sysprobs.com/guide-install-windows-8-virtualbox It may be something more then XP. Your CPU needs to support Hardware Virtualization Technology (VT) or it will hang with a black box.
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KyteM
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Reading on the link, Component Extensions seems to mirror the C++/CLI model, but creating an ABI rather than a mixed-mode DLL, allowing use by native applications. In fact, reading further, I find this little snippet: >If you are familiar with C++/CLI, you will notice that the Component Extensions look very similar...
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sod1864
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And when it stops being about the consumer, that is when you as a product start to fail.
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CalcProgrammer1
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I got downvotes for having pretty much the same feeling... Unity was garbage when it released and I'm sticking with GNOME 2. When Ubuntu 11.10 ships, if GNOME 3's fallback interface hasn't improved significantly I will refuse to update. Seriously, GNOME 2 is a great interface, it's tried-and-true, widely used, and w...
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itsmeee
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ICP is on Reddit now?
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Igosuki
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Omg 8-4
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CalcProgrammer1
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Visual Studio has some cool features, but I really don't see the need for C/C++ either. I prefer to do my C/C++ coding in Linux when possible, and I just use gedit most of the time. I like Visual Studio for building GUI's, but for cross-platform coding (with GTK+/GTKMM) it doesn't help. VS is nice for throwing a qui...
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iLiekCaeks
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What kind of C++ is it? Managed C++? That would run on .net, but some articles about WinRT say that it's native C++. Is it C++ with MS extensions? Can you post a sample link to this kind of C++?
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sod1864
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As someone who moved from a paid subscription of mail.com to gmail as well I can tell you it is only a headache for a short period of time. Sure you can capitulate, but they are not locked in. [edit] btw in your example. In order to force SPDY on the end user, they would need to disable POP3 + Mail forwarding. Whic...
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SystemicPlural
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> var person = function(name){ > var self = this; > var knowledge = {}; > var profit = false; > > becomeAProgrammer = function(family){ > for(var i in family){ > if(!family.hasOwnProperty(i)) continue; > // @...
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CalcProgrammer1
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I got it to boot in VirtualBox with minimal configuration, just gave it 50GB disk (it doesn't actually use that much), 2GB RAM, 2 CPU's (on my i7) with all acceleration options enabled, 128MB Video RAM with 2D/3D accel enabled. Unfortunately, the guest additions do not install and I didn't get networking to work eithe...
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trezor2
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We're all very excited about the new Windows 8 developer preview, but while this is definitely new content, it's still just a link to a MSDN index-page ;)
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jonforthewin
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ActiveX, HTML5 edition.
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iLiekCaeks
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Nope, it seems GDC + D2 is used successfully. But LDC + D2 is not yet completely functional. At least that's the impression I got from #D.
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sod1864
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Just to clarify the title. The previous competition they had, the winner had 0 knowledge of XPages and won. Winners get a choice of: > 1) Apple iPad 2, 64 GB Wifi or 32 GB 3G > 2) Apple iPhone 5, 32 GB if available in December > 3) Amazon voucher for $800 if available in your country (if available) Yo...
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iLiekCaeks
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See nascent's reply. Also there are some things about dmd that are... very unpolished. If you use D seriously, you'll probably bump into some bugs or unimplemented features pretty soon. I'd go as far as saying that dmd is a piece of shit, and sdc's is D's only hope for a reasonable compiler (sdc is still in early dev...
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sod1864
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Oh and if anyone needs any help, direction feel free to respond and I'll see if I can help.
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newbill123
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The Windows patform can be cult-like in its lack of understanding of anything outside of MS Developers? Can you elaborate?
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iLiekCaeks
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You completely ignore community and project management issues. Like, D claims to be a community driven project, when the community (of which Tango and Tango users were a very big part) is simply ignored when decisions are finalized. I think the root of the problem is that Walter is a bad community leader/project mana...
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kamatsu
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I taught a deaf and mostly blind guy theorem proving once. He used huge glasses and a massive font to read one character at a time. Basically they do it with insanely good memory.
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So... .NET guy seemed the most reasonable participant of that discussion.
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http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/hh464924(v=VS.85).aspx#asynchronous_patterns_inwith_c All those ^ are part of C++/CLI. Edit: Reddit cant parse that url..
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Fun fact, although possibly somewhat off-topic: I once got a big speed boost when appending lots of elements to a vector by implementing it myself and using realloc() instead of malloc()+free() under the hood. The trick is that realloc() can use the [mremap](http://linux.die.net/man/2/mremap) Linux syscall that allows...
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PhantomRacer
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Damn, I missed it.
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patrickbarnes
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Hahaha. Yeah, that's going to be REALLY usable with tiny ass fonts and an app not made for touch input. Windows 8 is going to be massive fail.
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otterdam
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> How do you ensure your test is accurate? If you have to ask yourself "is the expected result *really* what I want this function to perform?" perhaps you shouldn't write anything at all.
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iLiekCaeks
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Yeah, that's definitely managed C++, Microsoft's frankenstein attempt at shoehorning C++ into .NET. But [this article](http://www.infoq.com/news/2011/09/WinRT-API) claims that WinRT is available to native C++.
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clawoo
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That is one ugly piece of code.
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fettlesthoracic
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Automatic [Reddit Advertising, Vote, and Commenting Bot](http://www.redditroll.com) dislikes this submission
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grauenwolf
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C++ has had a rather long history of proprietary extensions. I still remember learning C++ with Open MPI back in college (though most of the assignments were actually done with FORTRAN). So while it isn't straight C++, saying it is "a complete sham" is a bit of a stretch.
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Pretty slow. I get 5MB/s+.
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go blow a turtle ps: your mom is a gay fagg, asshole ps1: you sister sucked my dick all night ps2: and your dog!! loser
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KyteM
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So I read a bit, and it's C++/CLI style syntax, but *it compiles down to native C++*. The ^, for instance, means a refcounted COM/WinRT object, with a "public ref class sealed" presumably inheriting from Platform::Object rather than the .NET System::Object. They are calling this [Component Extensions](http://msdn.micr...
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agiantman
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I don't know how to continue the conversation, at all.
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xon_xoff
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What's interesting about these extensions is that the docs emphatically say they are native, and furthermore, reference counted: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/hh454076%28v=VS.85%29.aspx I'd like to look at the generated code once I have the build running to be sure, but this sounds like the Win...
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antonivs
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At the bottom there's a reference which says "from our JCG partner David Pollak at the GOOD STUFF blog."
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Taladar
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So basically what he is saying is that a language is bad in the hands of those who resent using it and those who lack the ability to use it. I don't that part isn't very controversial. I would question the assumption that it is not a good idea to fire developers of low ability who lack a will to improve, given the hig...
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Xarnon
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> Minecraft is extremely buggy No. *Dead Island* is extremely buggy. Sure, MC has bugs after every major release, but they'll get fixed pretty fast. > Notch is a lazy programmer The only good programmer is a [lazy programmer](http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2005-08-24-n14.html).
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NitWit005
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You told everyone to download it. You can't complain when they obey.
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detaer
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After years of trying out microsoft beta operating systems then having the best features taken out right before release I have sworn off using microsoft pre-release anything.
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jupiter104
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haha you morons don't know shit. already figured it out.
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Honestly can't tell if you're trolling or not, but since your OP, I'll give you the benefit of doubt. You're saying Java is a computer language so it can't be an IL, which is absurd. Different things can have the same name sometimes. There is a developer tool called Visual Studio .Net, so obviously there can't be an V...
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iLiekCaeks
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>Visual C++ defines a few Component Extensions that, in a Metro style app,are essentially syntactic sugar over the underlying COM calls involved in creating and consuming Windows Runtime types. So they added a few extensions to standard C++ to literally sugarcoat the old COM stuff? And I thought everyone was growin...
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mistoroboto
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I've been spending way too much time learning Java.
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MDendura
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I've had to do this with an old version of ACT (contact management software) as I've been steadily upgrading my company's PCs to Win7. It seems to work really well.
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nepidae
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DON'T DATE ROBOTS
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Sc4Freak
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It is. MS uses C++/CLI internally to expose the classes to the outside world (because it's easier to generate COM). But in the end, the actual applications you write will interface with WinRT via COM (or something COM-like) and will be 100% native.
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Solon1
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MongoDB is basically commercial now, and commercial entities always inflate version numbers. 2.0 is going to bring in more support contracts that 1.10. But they cant tell you that. I bet their sales team is already excitedly calling all of their leads and excitedly talking about this new release, and how they should...
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uriel
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Plenty of people outside Google are already [using Go in production](http://go-lang.cat-v.org/organizations-using-go).
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quoderat
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I hate the new UI. Been using the developer preview for a few hours now. And I've been a system admin for 15 years, so it's not like I have no experience -- but I prefer using the mouse. I hate having to type to search for programs. It's inefficient, and most people imagine they are much quicker typing but studies show...
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Felicia_Svilling
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Or you could have an actual multidimensional array (as an abstract data type).
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Who cares?
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Sc4Freak
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WinRT exposes its interfaces to C++ via COM. The extensions are just syntactic sugar over the COM interfaces - if you don't want to use the extensions, just revert to using plain old COM.
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monothorpe
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What I'd really like to know is why when I tested, setting `vector.reserve(n)` didn't get me the performance boost that it should have. It seems that `push_back()` isn't only slow because of the resizes--the bookkeeping to keep track of the size is more work than I would have expected. And yes, `resize()` and setting ...
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G_Morgan
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Yeah ad hoc testing is exactly what we've been trying to get away from since software development came into existence. It relies too much upon the developer being at his absolute best on a particular day.
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nerds-central
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Nicely put :)
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RichardDurr
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I do hope so – the previous name was so extremly boring and uninspiring. The enhancements Nicolas Petton made to Clamato are really cool, though.
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johnwaterwood
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Looking forward to playing with VS 11 in combination with this. C# is rising massively in popularity lately, which I think is 90% because of .NET.
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xon_xoff
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I don't know about the APIs yet, but it looks like WinRT base objects are a bit more refined than COM. With COM, you need to go through AddRef() and Release() virtual methods for all reference counting, but in WinRT based code I'm seeing direct inline code manipulating refcounts. __declspec(no_refcount) and __declspec(...
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RichardDurr
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Yay! The name choice is beautiful. While working with jtalk, I asked myself, what the little mosquito on the left side of the jtalk pane meant, now I know. :D
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grauenwolf
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The Metro UI is supposed to work well with the keyboard and mouse, but I haven't had a chance to try it myself.
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johnwaterwood
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Compared to the tens of thousands of companies that build on Java EE your hundreds doesn't sound like much...
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dist
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Aargh! I'd like to upvote but this has 1337 upvotes so I can't :<
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grauenwolf
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They need a UI that works with touch and the Win95 isn't it.
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johnwaterwood
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Cool, can we put him up against Adam Bien who does the same real-time coding + explaining during presentations with Java EE 6 (JSF, CDI, EJB, etc). See who wins! :)
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