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gnuvince
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Are you really saying that it's the fault of the programmers that there are bugs and that the tools have absolutely nothing to do with promoting those bugs?
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rcmurphy
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While this is unrelated to Facebook's behavior, this guy Faraz was pretty much a jerk when it came to his Audio application. I participated in a long discussion of it on Facebook back in June 2007 (and saved the text for later reference) in which Faraz basically regarded anyone who had doubts about the legality of the app as an idiot. (Remember, at this point he did not have contracts for the music people could play via the application.) The biggest problem is that, at the time, users themselves added tracks to the application. The host URLs for music tracks in Audio could be easily found in the page's source code, and users sometimes uploaded tracks to personally-identifiable websites (like a Google Pages site under the user's real name, to use one example I found). So tracks uploaded illegally could possibly be linked back to the person who uploaded them. When I pointed out this glaring privacy issue in the Facebook discussion, Faraz dismissed me with " it's not really a matter of concern, since very few people care enough to look at the source code and get the MP3." None of this excuses anything nasty Facebook has done to developers, and no doubt they've done some nasty things. But I think it's important to flesh out the story just a bit.
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tanishaj
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Funny. I did "dogs are animals" and "animals are alive" without even thinking about it. We must have a closely related circle of friends. "Smarts" and "intelligence" are not as concrete as we like to believe. We all have mental color blindness. For most problems, I have trouble understanding how they are not obvious. For others, my mind just sees nothing even when others see them plain as day. Am I a genius or an idiot? It is not always a simple question.
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easymovet
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I keep reading closure with a Spanish accent.
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The Microsoft treadmill was always about extracting money from their customers. At the very least, I don't see Google trying the same thing with any of their "evolving standards." Annoying, yes. Subversive? I'm not entirely sure they're trying to undermine anyone with this.
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Cramd
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And this is why Monty has developed MariaDB. MariaDB is an update branch of MySQL that has been well optimized. I think the fact that almost the entire MySQL development team now works at Monty Program has allowed them to make some great advances with MySQL. It is also a direct drop and replace for MySQL so changing over takes but a few minutes. I think all of us have been waiting for Oracle to do something like this. It is just not in their best interest to help MySQL grow as an opensource project. Full disclosure: I was part of MySQL Ab, and now work at SkySQL, which is a partner of Monty's.
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strongsauce
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I've said this before in related posts. They think having "the idea" is their work. You're just the scrub monkey programmer that are a dime a dozen who should be happy to be getting 1% ownership of the company.
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Soulture
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there's that. OR TROLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL chillax broseph.
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tanishaj
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I keep the chipped (damaged) plates at the top to protect the good ones. My wife does not. Also, the kids plates are always above the adult ones. Is that how a stack works?
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dyydvujbxs
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Where is the problem here? MySQL is still open source through version whatever. Contributor agreements for copyrigt assignment mean that the main owner of the brand gets the branding benefit, in exchange for a significant investment of time and money. If and when the brand owner goes rogue, the community has the not very difficult task of forking an open source branch for the future, and users may need to write a few wrappers and sed scripts.
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wurzelg
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Same when bundling a HTML5 app w/ phonegap etc.
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wurzelg
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Define "most apps". There is a large category of apps which work just fine w/ HTML5. E.g. Google Docs for Android. Using something like Phonegap, many of the limitations are blurred.
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redditnoob
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It's only easy to get started. Actually making a complex and bug free app is extremely hard, and then when you want to run perfectly on every version of IE... forget it. In fact, the browser _in_compatibility, including massively different and unpredictable performance considerations, is a very massive con in itself.
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wurzelg
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Making a complex and bug free app is hard in any environment. jQuery etc have done a pretty good job of handling cross-browser concerns. Not sure what mobile OS is using IE. If you can make it work (like gmail, for example) you get excellent apps across multiple platforms from a single codebase for free. This is a gigantic engineering savings.
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Hughlander
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Awesome, I hate trying to align tables with lynx, I'm going to try this out tonight!
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quadcap
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This struck me too. I read that and was thinking WTF is he talking about. Then I somehow managed to read the rest and realized it might have been the most coherent thing he had to say
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zingbot3000
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Why the hell are you getting modded down? These are all key points, and well-argued. Somebody give the parent some love.
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SweetIrony
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First Hudson now MySQL. It seems like Oracle is determined to kill the value of it's own investments through petty short sighted moves. They need to fire their MBA's and use their salaries to hire more engineers to management to make things right or they are going to blow it. Making a few pennies here and there by destroying the value of your business assets is idiotic. This isn't a resort or a banana importing business, you make money by making great products and services in a way that makes sense to your customers, not narrow minded bean counters who can't see beyond next quarters ledger.
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magcius
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If the compiler enforced this rule, it would break `else if`. Other languages get around this by making `else if` a special construct. Of course, it would also disallow other constructs like `else for` and `else while`, which I was introduced to today. I want to shoot that man in the face.
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imgonnacallyouretard
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Nothing.
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icebraining
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Being the main language for Firefox/Gecko is not an ambitious goal?
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regeya
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It's as much fun, if not more fun, to read it in an outrageous French accent, you see.
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Cramd
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One of the problems that I see is that the new features that Oracle will be putting in MySQL are closed sourced. They are available under the "enterprise" version. This means that if you build an application that uses these new features you will then effectively locked in.
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0xABADC0DA
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Good grief. There's already ranges, and you already get a response header. It's not like there isn't already a Content-Range that says how much of the whole is in the current response. Or a Location that could give the original GET method's URI. It's not like they couldn't add new fields or reuse these. You people with your "impossible" and "cannot be solved". If you were programming reddit regulars, then I'd be ashamed to call myself one. And the bury brigade? Classy. Did you miss the part where the Spdy developers *didn't even compare against pipelining* even *with* head-of-line problem? Why? No reason to use Spdy if they were up front like that.
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Exactly, however I feel that I should clarify my opinion only pertains to apps that are expected to spread virally. There are some clients who have established, or hope to establish a clientele list that would almost without exception be interested in the app were it created. Developing such a list requires a host of skills that I am not capable of nor interested in acquiring so in situations such as this there is some contribution being made by both parties.
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Cramd
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I think that the revenue from MySQL is such a drop in the bucket for Oracle that they just don't care. In fact the revenue is so small that they can see where any MySQL revenue is cannibalizing their Oracle core product revenue.
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Smallpaul
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"it worked for zynga" is a sufficient argument to establish that it is unwise to treat "don't be entirely dependent on another company" as an unbreakable business rule. If a single company can break the rule and profit, then it isn't a rule: it's a guideline. A single black swan destroys the premise that all swans are white. Thousands of successful startups bet their whole business on a single customer, partner or platform. Is it wise? Only if the upside potential compensates you for the risk. Which is why the decision needs to be made in the context of a specific business deal. Instead of pointing out the obvious point that Zynga is the exception to the rule, the wiser thing to spend your brain cells upon is asking "under what circumstances is it wise to make this form of a bet?" Being one of the first apps on Facebook was an amazing opportunity. Most who did so profited in one way or another. i know first time programmers who made a million bucks in a year. This dude (in the article) got screwed. That doesn't mean he necessarily made a mistake. You can take a smart risk and still lose. That's why it is called "a risk."
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icebraining
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You could just run python with `-t` which warns or `-tt` which issues an error when the file has mixed tabs and spaces...
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icebraining
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It's no silver bullet, but It's still better than curly braces everywhere.
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diewhitegirls
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I couldn't find the original data that I had used, but here's [Census data](http://www.census.gov/hhes/computer/publications/files/Appendix-TableA.xls) that pretty much says the same thing. Very few of my friends had Internet access in the late 90's and those that did were all on 28.8/56k with AOL. Broadband wasn't widely available to consumers until the 2000's, so you must have lived in a lucky area. Hell, when I found out that the company I worked for was getting a T1, I felt like the coolest kid on the block. While you're certainly correct in that consumers aren't what patents protect industry from, consumer DEMAND is what causes *most* innovation to occur. So if there are a lot of people that have computers, there are incentives for firms to innovate, which leads to the growth of industry, which necessitates the laws concerning that industry. I'm trying to run this one through my brain and I'm not able to wrap my mind around it...is the cost of hardware really that big of a role in the end-cost of software development? My guess would have been that R&D and production are the major factors in software costs. Regardless, if the software markets would become commoditized, duplication of efforts would drive net social welfare down, but the platform's value would go through the roof. The platform would become a monopoly AND a monopsony. See: iPhone and the App Store. If there were a patent process to get through to the App Store, you'd have far fewer, but better developed apps. Those people that were working on the socially "useless" apps (I cringed when I typed that, but bear with me) can work on other more important issues and not waste their time on unfruitful efforts. I see IPR for software through the lens of a social utilitarian, as a method to affect social planning. The purpose is NOT to maximize the quantity of software programs developed, it's to ensure that the number of entrants into the market is at a socially optimal level. Incidentally, I looked into the State St. ruling and I'm a tad confused as to how that applies to software. It was a business method, not a software algorithm or software process. A business method would have to do with the way in which you would derive revenue from the product or services that you are selling to your end-user. I apologize if I'm being obtuse, so could you point out what I'm missing there?
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zwaldowski
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> Not sure what mobile OS is using IE. ...?
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TheGoddamBatman
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What the hell is "open core," some kind of crazy doublespeak licensing that means the opposite of "open source?" (I use postgres for nearly everything any more, not too familiar with the mysql ecology, so I really have no idea what this is.)
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jthecie
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Right, I was ignoring the else because I assumed the ambiguity lied in implying it was intended to be parsed as: if a if b x else z and not: if a if b x else z Which makes more sense to me to do as if a and b x else z I do understand that as coded the else attaches to the "if b", but it was my understanding that the goal was to attach it to the the "if a". This is certainly a case where explicitly setting the scope with braces will remove the ambiguity. To make myself look like a fool by taking this further, but please be kind as I took compilers a number of years ago, it should be possible to better optimize with the "and". If a is already false testing b can be ignored, I recall discussing this optimization but not whether it was actually in practice, and a second jump is not needed for the second else, which may not be the performance penalty I . I may be completely off base with this paragraph, and if I am, I'd welcome the opportunity to get a refresher on this information.
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SnapAttack
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It's called Offline Caching, implemented in iOS Safari, Android, Chrome, Safari, IE10 and Firefox. http://diveintohtml5.org/offline.html
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SupremeFuzzler
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iOS at least supports HTML5 cache manifests and local storage. Android might also; I haven't checked yet. On iOS though it works quite well and allows you to run a web app without a data connection, though of course you need to jump through some hoops.
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sltkr
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> There's already ranges, and you already get a response header. You're missing the point, which is that the client must determine the order in which resources are requested, even with HTTP pipelining. But the client doesn't know in advance how large resources are, or how long it will take to serve them (even resources that are somehow expected to be small can take a long time to serve if the server must fetch them from somewhere else or generate them dynamically). SPDY allows you to just request everything you need, and have the server return whenever data becomes available, resulting in lower latency without any effort on the client's part.
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immerc
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That's your opinion. I don't mind curly braces. In fact, I much prefer curly braces to whitespace-only indentation. With curly braces I know where a clause ends. With whitespace-only indentation it's less obvious which clauses are complete and which aren't.
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immerc
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Yes, you can work around the python design flaw.
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markatto
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"Open Core" Refers to a practice where a company will release the core functionality of a product as open source, but withold other functionality. Examples of this are Nagios, syslog-ng, metasploit, zimbra, and asterisk. In fact, you could even look at postgres as "open core" if you consider that EnterpriseDB is a main contributor to postgresql and distributes postgres+ with proprietary features.
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SweetIrony
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That's going to happen no matter what, and Orale is getting it's butt kicked by FOSS on small and large scale deployments.
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Zarutian
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*Whoosh* the plane passes over you standing there uncomprehending. Edited to add: As you and adolfojp blatantly do not get what tom288374 was getting at I see myself compelled to try to explain. Alice makes a nifty software platform. Alice promises that she will continue developement and support it for the foreseeable future (often taken to mean 5 years or so). Bob hears about Alice's nifty software platform and investigates. Bob decides that Alice's promise is genuine and sincere. Bob invests time, effort and resources to make software that builds on Alice's nifty software platform. Alice breaks her promise (as far as Bob can see). This makes Bob grumpy for being played a fool by Alice. Alice makes a neat software platform loosly based on her earlier nifty software platform. Would you blame Bob if he decides not to use Alice's new neat software platform even if the transition would be relatively easy?
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Open-core, from what I can tell, means the the core of the software is opensource but modules/feature sets are commercially licenses. So for MySQL the server as it stands today will remain opensource, but new features that are added will not be. So the community/opensource version of MySQL will become stagnant as Oracle's efforts will focus on the enterprise features.
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Not quite. The key aspect of "Open Core" is that there are things outside the core that are not Open Source. The primary vendor is motivated to ensure that the primary end-user value comes more from the non-open stuff. If they give away key closed components for free they may even find the community willing to adopt those components widely without developing replacements. At this point, it is not so easy for the community to fork and start over. Essentially, everyone has become dependent on closed software, maybe without even realizing it.
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They are in some cases, but there are still many organizations that consider FOSS solutions to be "toys". This has been changing over the years, but still has a long way to go. Where I have seem the most adoption of FOSS has been on new, an mostly small, projects within companies. Many of these then an take hold and spread. With most of the new CIO and CTOs being from a younger generation than those that were in charge even a few years back the acceptance/adoption is gaining speed.
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Which of these sentences is most accurate, in your estimation? 1. One should never bet on a platform that can capriciously deny you access because one can never profit from it. 2. One should sometimes bet on a platform that can capriciously deny you access because one can sometimes profit from it. 3. one should never bet on a platform that can capriciously deny you access despite the fact that one can sometimes profit from it.
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mbetter
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Gmail doesn't work on my Touchpad.
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gregK
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one of the best books on the language is Bonjour Clojure!
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iLiekCaeks
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D's probably don't work yet. The Unique unittests are all [commented out](https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/phobos/blob/master/std/typecons.d#L165).
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rawlyn
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It's an awesome panel show on the BBC.
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EugeneKay
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The issue with MariaDB adoption in most linux distros can be summed up thusly: > [eugenekay@sparky ~]$ yum search mariadb > Warning: No matches found for: mariadb > No Matches found > [eugenekay@devlin ~]$ aptitude search mariadb > [eugenekay@devlin ~]$ Until it is as simple as "yum erase mysql && yum install mariadb", there just won't be any market share. LibreOffice has replaced OOo as of Fedora 15 & Ubuntu 11.04, and is thus replacing Oracle's murdered project. This is not yet the case with MariaDB. Yes, it is possible to compile & install it yourself. But do you REALLY want to maintain a rpm/deb repo/channel all by yourself? I don't.
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Actually it infuriates me that as the only dissenting opinion, you're getting dowmodded so hard, despite technical merits to your argument. But at least in my years of Reddit, /r/programming has never been built on technical merit. The specialized compression dictionary in SPDY has always struck me as fantastically retarded, thanks for pulling some numbers in support of that initial reaction Edit: downmodders, good design is a delicate balance between elegance and pragmatism, SPDY feels far too much like the latter, in many ways feels thrown together and its existence in the current state is only justified by the supposed urgency for a solution to the purported 'problems' it solves, especially when its chosen cornerstones (i.e. SSL) are in the process of rapidly crumbling. SPDY in its current form would never make it through a committee. Without healthy scrutiny such as what you're seeing from 0xABADC0DA (even if his words are a little sharp), this is the kind of shitty protocol that could sink the future web into an even thicker mire of disparity, complexity and myopic design decisions. The success of the web hinges on open, collaborative, iterative process; there are endless examples of failures over the years when big technical decisions were made based on market force alone (and let's face it guys, a lot of your upvotes here are because It's Google(tm)). So please stop dowmodding him, or me for that matter, without at least justifying your mindless clicks. Burying dissent just because you don't agree with it does not belong on Reddit, especially when that dissent is being accompanied by data.
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_ak
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You didn't refute anything. You claimed things without presenting any proof.
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Zarutian
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> This is how people talk. This is how drunk people talk is more likely.
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rush22
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So "One of Javascript's most powerful *features* is ***emulating*** private variables"?
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therapy
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I'm having a hard time understanding the example. It says "b copies a", is b another copy of a - so if one is modified, the other is not? Or is there an ownership transference and a is no longer valid?
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Zarutian
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Some people just seem to love to hear/see themselfs talk/write for some unfamthombable reason.
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GTChessplayer
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>That is a baldfaced lie and you know it. And even if it were true, you're going to deny someone rights because they don't have the money, simply because they're mentally ill? That's fucking disgusting. Nice strawman. You can't actually win the argument on valid points, so you resort to strawmen. Good job. >You mean, they would hire a company to provide security for the city. Kinda like a... police department? Yeah, real original that one. Except, the mandatory government run police departments have a monopoly, hence the consistent and regular abuse of powers. With free-markets, communities would have a number of firms from which to choose. If the firm starts acting out of line, they get dropped. It's really not that hard to see how competition fosters a better product. Of course, for you, understanding such a known and proven fact is impossible. >I ignore it because it doesn't exist. And again, you're relying on people to come together, and set rules for interaction with each other, and take responsibility for the conditions of the area. Kinda like a... government? Governments are mandatory and pervasive. Communities banding together, where each person has a say, to make a communal decision is not a government. You really don't know what a stateless society means, do you? >And yet, you still haven't explained their lack of environmental regulation and how that translates into extremely shitty environmental conditions. You haven't proven how government is needed to regulate the environment. In fact, it's already been proven by Hayek and Ostrom, that a government actually hinders the process. >You're assuming BP would have signed contracts with every single property owner around the area. They would have to, since the land isn't owned by BP. With libertarianism, everyone has true properties rights. Nobody can tamper with your property without your permission. >Ok, and say a company wants to build a factory, but doesn't give a flying fuck about your "community". They spit on your contracts. How are you going to stop them from building their factory and turning your environment to shit again? That's right, you can't. Simple. We already discussed how contracts are carried out via private police. Why would anyone in the town even allow the company to stay in business? They could stop goods from being shipped out, they could burn the place down. What can you do when the government, via regulatory capture, doesn't do it's job (as is the case repeatedly)? Oh, that's right. Nothing. >Could it be that free enterprise is only about making money, damn the expense? Pretty hard to run a business on polluted land and it's pretty hard to run a business if the people don't buy your products. Good job. China is not a free-market. They never have been, and never claimed to be. Only a true idiot would try to argue otherwise.
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cybercobra
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A Lisp with a Turing-complete type system, IIRC.
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immerc
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A typical editor doesn't have a complete parser, just a "close enough" parser. It needs to figure out indentation, opening and closing of string, opening and closing of parentheses, but it doesn't need to fully parse every expression. Most languages are similar enough that you can take a generic parser and tell it what tokens start and end strings, what tokens start and end comments, what tokens start and end clauses. If you start adding things like this, you can no longer use a generic parser, and have to have a special D-specific parser that knows the intricacies of its specific token parsing. That's a drawback.
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Fabien4
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> Not sure what mobile OS is using IE. I think Windows Phone does use IE, but since nobody uses Windows Phone, it's not a problem.
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dyydvujbxs
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Yeah, that is bad about Open Core. But I don't see how that is a problem with copyright assignment. The main feature of copyright assignment is that is allows relicensing in the future. That is why "good guys" like the FSF use it. But relicensing like Oracle is doing doesn't threaten the existing license on the existing code.
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endr
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All I can tell you is Socket.io and Tornadio
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dyydvujbxs
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Yeah I just got burned by an open core conversion with a different product I use at work. It is rather unpleasant, in the sense of "no more freeloading for me, and the current open source version is buggy", but it's not ripping off my work in any way.
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djimbob
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Comments that repeat information that's in the code is a violation of DRY (Don't repeat yourself) which makes software maintenance much more difficult. I agree that comments that are misleading or wrong are bugs and very difficult to detect bugs (no automatic test will ever pick them up) and if you over comment code and the spec changes your comments will grow stale. You should comment your code, but only to the extent of adding information that's not in the code itself. Comments like: #N If we don't initialise @dirs, we won't have a place to put the sub-directories as we find them @dirs = [] #N If we don't initialise @files, we won't have a place to put the files as we find them @files = [] are utterly useless and distracting (they hide any meaningful comments). Any programmer of ruby (or a similar language), will immediately recognize that `@files = []` is creating an empty list collection `files` that will likely be used store several `file` objects. Comments are useful to document functions/classes, label out of place seemingly random code (though really refactoring the out of place code into its own function with a meaningful name and the usual docstring is better).
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washort
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Sure, but you're not behind a half-broken HTTP proxy, as many users are.
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sabowski
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http://downloads.askmonty.org/mariadb/repositories/
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X-Istence
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I work for such a company, had it not been for me saying "Ehm, lets just PostgreSQL" we would have been stuck with a proprietary database system and would have paid royally for it without really any value what so ever.
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Erloren
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If you know some functional programming, look up guides on haskell, solve some problems using it, learn the concepts, save yourself 1600. If you dont know functional programming, maybe ease into with a language like scheme, learn the core aspects and then move to haskell. Either way if you have some level of understanding of CS, learning haskell is very feasible for free. Moreover, learning Haskell in 2 does not seem very feasible
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sabowski
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Been using Nagios for over a year and had no idea they had a non-free version. Glad I researched before calling you out :)
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Passion is the last thing in the world I need from my coworkers while doing refactoring at 2:30 on a Monday, and acting like you're a 12 year old girl at a boy band concert would just make me want to punch you in the face in almost all aspects of the development process. Just give me someone whose competent, gets his stuff done when he says he's going to do it, and fits in with the rest of the staff any day of the week.
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paranoidray
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"when he has rebuilt the wheel". I think this is unfair. I wanted my own forge to have certain features others were missing. It was a great learning experience... what is so bad with that ? Also I have so many little projects I didn't want to spam other forges... And finally I am just really really bad and lazy with names. I just don't care what its called, I do however try to find unique names.
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paranoidray
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Working on it...
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WalterBright
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A parser without this addition will still correctly parse correct D code. It just won't do a diagnostic if the user has incorrect dangling else code. All this parser change does is add a diagnostic. It does not change associativity or indenting.
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cbuosi
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It just worked (no-segfault) or not (segfault).
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Taterade
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Terrible repost, but I feel it shouldn't haven't been downvoted before it go a chance to get off the ground.
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0xABADC0DA
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Seriously? #2: [Hypertext Transfer Protocol Secure HTTPS is a combination of the Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) with SSL/TLS protocol](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTPS) #3: [Transport Layer Secureity Protocol Compression Methods](http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3749) and [some example numbers](http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/kp1b5/spdy_what_i_like_about_you_as_told_by_a_mozilla/c2m4agi) There's two of the three claims I made backed up. As for the first, I really don't know what to say other than ask any programmer. I've presented my case. Go off and make the web significantly more complicated if you want for a return of a couple percent speedup on headers.
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stilton
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b is a copy of a, so modifying b does not modify a. There is a move operation which transfers ownership of unique types, b <- a, after which a is deinitialized and can't be used.
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mycatverbs
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> /opengl driver engineer AMA please. :)
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SCombinator
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I see what you did there.
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SweetIrony
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I build out enterprise class clusters for a living, and no one even brings up Oracle or Microsoft. A lot of people are talking about Hadoop, NoSQL, Cassandra, MySQL, Postgres and its gone mainstream that classical databases are no longer relevant. People just want speed of development, maintenance, low cost, solid support and are becoming increasingly skeptical of proprietary solutions. Fewer and fewer organizations see a need to pay for database software since its so free and ubiquitous. They would rather spend the money on development or office parties for that matter. There's a revolution out there, and like I was saying out the boat has left the bock, and Oracle isn't there. 2000's are calling and they want their database back Oracle.
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x-skeww
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>Exactly how do you think Google would be profiting from this? If the web is faster, the experience is better. If the experience is better, the web is more heavily used. If the web is more used, Google makes more money. This is the driving force behind Chrome, WebP, SPDY, and whatever else they do to improve the performance of the web. >Its just a standard. Its not even remotely possible for this to end in some kind of vendor lockin. As you should now be able to see, they apparently aren't interested in any kind of vendor lock-in. Their motive is entirely different. Or more precisely: It's pretty much the opposite. Personally, I think it's great. It's a very elegant non-evil approach.
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x-skeww
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Do you have any numbers to back that up? I'd guess it's below 5%, which I wouldn't call "many".
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jessta
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That's what a language is all about. It's an agreed set of limitations and features between programmers. Lots of paradigms means that there isn't really one language, there are multiple languages pretending to be one. Pure functions is quite a different mindset to imperative-procedural and they don't mix well either. You end up with code that is apparently written in the same language but can't be read or used by all the devs that say they know that language.
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tau-lepton
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I'm hoping virtualBox is left alone.
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I spoke to our MySQL rep the other day, and according to her they have tripled their engineering staff since acquiring the software. She stated that "there are big things coming" in the near future, so take that for what it's worth.
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masta
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The entire MySQL development team? Maybe some, except the one key person... Brian Aker (aka krow) decided to fork his own and called it Drizzle. I'd say Drizzle is breaking away into territory Monty will never venture, namely sane datatype system, aka this is not reverse-compatible with old mysql.
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Almost the entire team, of course not all of them. Several people have gone off other projects, such as Brian. Now that Rackspace is not funding Drizzle anymore is there still much going on with it? I hope there is as it is a great solution for many projects. Since the changes with Rackspace and Drizzle some of the Drizzle guys have come over to SkySQL. The way I look at it is that there are several great FOSS database solutions out there now, and it is now just up to users to figure out which one is best suited for their project.
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therapy
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So why does it say "a is destroyed" at the end? It sounds like a is deinitialized at that point anyhow, it was transfered away, so nothing left to destroy?
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Cramd
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They are growing their engineering teams for sure. The question is who are they bringing on the team? Most of the original team of developers have moved on to a handful of other companies. I have heard that many of the new people are from other parts of Oracle. This is not a bad thing, but something to consider. There are some big things coming from them, but you will only have access to them if you are an Oracle/MySQL Enterprise customer. That fact is what I do not feel is good for MySQL.
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aaronla
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[/r/programminglolz](http://reddit.com/r/programminglolz)
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ioquatix
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Cool, just taking a look now... but in JavaScript, functions are used to create instances of classes, - how is your language different?
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slurpme
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jQuery mobile is ok as long as your app isn't that dynamic, if it is then jQuery mobile isn't a good choice... There are also certain incompatibilities (I forget which) between jQuery mobile and jQuery UI... Personally I use phone gap for the platform independence...
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ioquatix
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In the tutorial, using the name "class" for your class may be a bit confusing to some people - why not call it "point2d" or something related to x and y variables?
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