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I'd like to welcome everyone to the Clean Energy subreddit. Feel free to discuss all forms of clean energy!	r/cleanenergy	post	r/CleanEnergy	2014-06-06	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfZ3c2aExrdUEtWTIxY05lNV9sMWV5UGRkR3BJTzlMelhvM2dqNlZ2SGlUYmdwZXk0NTQzbVJoMk5fbGg1NXBXQ0FoZmFGbnJSckhrMU9EUWlid3dWVEE9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBWkVsRG1xOEVfUkNzWG1TdnlpcHJhWEVYOW1IQ2E5MDBBaDZrbXI3X0lERUN4b3RseWg5MFZESVJRcGdMc1BoTkFKaFdkcE5JTVNnSnNvQVpfZTJqNGZmWHV5LWJ2bnpqSy1qeG9nQ29lbkM3dkp3RVRUaFY5cVBNdUpLWlNaelppLUQxZ2VtWEtOTjR0dUxkQ2w5RWZfejJES3RNNkQxbHlSQ2lQVlR3TENnPQ==
[This post](http://www.reddit.com/r/RenewableEnergy/comments/27hebf/so_apparently_you_cant_be_pronuclear_and_for/) did a good job clearing /r/RenewableEnergy of anyone who dares to think of nuclear as an important path to a future where renewable energy makes up the lion's share of energy creation globally. Thanks to ...	r/cleanenergy	post	r/CleanEnergy	2014-06-08	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfWGdQNzViaVVnUnJVUW41eEhHUlB5dW55Z0tLaFZ3Z2xTUm56M1dCb3JKZ2dabHBQb054Z0c1QnludGhFZlJWaXVGVlZDWkswYkdxcExfNm9TZUx2RWc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBV2N3TmtxY3JXbzVDYjV6eFZwV3lSOWM1WmhmLV9Kc3pPY2JlNmE2a2x6WnVLaEV5aFJ5MnRZblU4ekQwNWxjWHNXQ2gxSC04Z1lIYnl1UEtoV2xpelZ3RDl3czRYb2thcDdVQ092dWFBX0dLTWtMLVVaWEowaG1Kcndka0dmd1NOcHJqRngxS3Juc1FsR05lZTd1UHFUcnRId0d5cmM2WVZZeDFtRWZCNmlaOWx6U1lvcDBnUzJOZ0RoanJicjJQ
We must strive to be as renewable as possible but as it is not yet possible to depend entirely on renewable energy I believe the use of Nuclear power should be maintained (though not necessarily grown). That is as long as we know that it will one day be phased out. We should be focusing on ending mountain top removal, ...	r/cleanenergy	comment	r/CleanEnergy	2014-06-09	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfaTBmRGJSSkFtTW5HSnNrbXp1TmVTY2FIZlBJdUgwdEcwZUQ0ZGJtN2Nab2xFTlp1cnNiSTBDeGtmZFdJX1ExbXR6TmV0OUZ3Tnk3MVRYZW9STlgyMHc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBQ0UxM0xvTy00anZrYktXODZQb2s0d2J3TkVmT1ljaEtjNGZ0ZXNSUFFKOHhWeTY1cEVhZ0JNT3B5ZUp5ODJ1cTlfREg0anIwbUZrTEVJeVZGYzQ1bVdwNGVxMEtPWHdIaWhwNmlqSnJUUE5XT1NCWTM2alkyRnF5REZNcXExdzBJNnNoSmlIa2ZBU0xrTVRMZm9UVjZveEpkT1BaSjJzU0JQNFVOWDUxSkpoUG1reVQxVzlFdndwdjF5RnR0a3IzV1Y5U3BOV3BUaGpaSk1sZzFTRm5aQT09
[Why not both?](http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/257125i6B387EEECF42AAAF/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1) I'm happy to include any low carbon production that can compete on cost, and to increase funding for all scientifically valid low carbon solutions.	r/cleanenergy	comment	r/CleanEnergy	2014-06-09	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfZklLQmM2ZGtYdnMwc085N0dPQUt5Y25FRkd3ZXlMYzhWT2JXUFVCSHd3RmRjTmpQUHd6Um5UbWkybTVkTDE3TVhSRFVSZjZ3OG94cEd2ZDlsQmg0cnc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBQUhCbzAxcmw4b0JrRmk0MjZRS2Zwdm0zVFRHdkxqV1lXWl9RVGxGTEtfVGJLUUJ1R1BuLU5CSU9xd2lJOWVKaVdlelU2dzl4MmpnVzdvQktyMWR0Wm1MOEgzb21kdklzZVRILVdJaFpKdi13eHFUS0o1S3lPY3Y4MUo4UlRoNjBtakI3SDdaNWU2bTJyR2oxaUJfcEVZWU9SWWNPZjNvMkNyWTRwZXpCQkJVdGhESkwtNEZhaVpUay11QVlGaWEwb2dRVXVSSGNSNUtoXzZSRWFwd0lzQT09
“an ideological crusade imposed on our military that will pointlessly consume billions of defense dollars, mainly to keep money flowing to politically well-connected ‘green energy' companies that can't get anyone else to buy their products,” [says the man being funded by Petroleum corporations](https://www.opensecrets...	r/cleanenergy	comment	r/CleanEnergy	2014-06-24	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfX092NFlab3A2ZHJFTEV6aC0tZFpVUW5Dd29rVUstdDdVU19WQUJjVHY5T3ZKSHo0OGdjb1dtOVJMcTVNR2VWNTRBZVI3TGk0czVHMkcxc3hsU1VHdEE9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBM183Rm9lNks0c1o1RHU2S0tsUDVTRHUtZGNzY2JpdkVHRVdWbnBOZU04bjFlcVlLUm52d1kxVld6TjM1U1ozQVVyUFdnQURFQTQ2aThkQXJKSVFNQlFRZUdPaTJvUEs4c0c1RElCVXpSYlZfd3hBaGQ4MnNRc3FsQThvT0tTYU9JZUNHUnhSd3U4enR2cXNXVmFUZ0dfRmlxMFgwaFhQcmk2ZmpHXzhEYkFPSGxPYzhiV1A4ZGNFaWEyWnVBWlgtWmdYWGpmWHJaZzZJbGhOSXNLYXlnUT09
I have spent the past three years of my life fighting Duke Energy to protect ratepayers from unfair rate increases. The first two years were spent as a paid canvasser for the Citizens Action Coalition in Indiana and more recently I have worked as a volunteer for multiple non-profits working to give ratepayers a voice h...	r/cleanenergy	post	r/CleanEnergy	2014-07-31	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfSVBtbjgwbDc4enpTU05rR01KSFE5anFfUEV6cl9jSXM3RzVaWExwaEI4R3dFRHdnVEZqWFVpdExOQms2QmhJU2JNRjVhSnFXQnZuV0RrTXYzV1Q5VXc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBRzktbFh1ZU41aEhRZERzcXpYNlRaemRjdzJka0FUZ3FTMDJwbWlMTTFhMEc5Ums0VENzdXRYWUlhc1lUZ2dTQXpIVHBuaVN1UzBCdWV2YVdxN1JWNWE0eXZxOXh5eGZNVVQzX3FaYmdIYzZwd3pGcnR4eWtBLWJlb3lqVnQxRjRETURjb2lhZkcxaThEMmMzeEhMRUdtTk52N195OEo5ZGNKczdLMUNWQUFmbTNhdUFuVEZIV05yRG1tNkhoWkFacDJTQ2lzNWdzWGhYb3FjTW9KTUljQT09
Why is Congress so out of sync with America's scientists, investors and voters?	r/cleanenergy	post	r/CleanEnergy	2015-02-03	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfWVJDY3hSQ2JIbVUtdEV4UmRwTzJ1UmpwbGJONkxFdEhuOElZdndZUmJPNzl3VWswR1BnelJwSk9WMnZQQ2w1SDB5NUV1UW9JSHg4TmswS2p4aHdCWGc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBQjdGRzNyRUlDcEVsck94eENNM09jLTdLVllGNklldXZGZ0ZDRTl2dVRyc2FmT0xuQ3JwM1ktX0tiYzg5ZlpqVUxHSy11ZXViUUxtWHFzSEUwdkhiTThNZ0RzMnVDeE80bjFpUUxYczNseG95VGRrd1loaDZJT2JURExqMl9JNEdUX3VOd3NSZmlhblc2MW1GWUFtUFNxR2p6QkVsdmdHMkdHV0dxQnRyaEw0NVVseGxiVDZVMnBrM2xwMUpWc1V4
i dunno that they are that out of sync with investors and voters, if only the ones that they care about. Someone donated to their campaign and enough people voted for them. The fact that a policy or political stance is incorrect or outright harmful does not effect its usefulness as a political wedge.	r/cleanenergy	comment	r/CleanEnergy	2015-02-04	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfLVlfVGtBTFBCRU5yLTVvcmN4c1FGNW5WWUxNSVRtbFE5dF9OTlJwbVVRV2NMcU9NeldlaUt4bGs5Z3VhVW9tYTVPa3ZHQ1ZPSFB6V3BXV3cwZlBTT0E9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBeWlBcnlkT0dKUVV4b3lLSE1RTm9ES2pDWDBnOGxHZkpjcVNlOV9KMTJrd1FsWjNGRUNNMnIxaUFoWUZNM1JEMlNWdWtZeEE0WVZCM0d5bGxzYkgxRWRsQWg5WWxieHhBVVltTExsRjVmMFZmMjlxRmtKbFJoUlV3c1dDVmU5T1FtWGVTay1LTzRmTEZETWZPR1htcFl1QW1fYUNpSnNWdmtVaVM2TGlrbHFxdGx0QmdwUWdPMGlHUlkwUUhsbk5ucFNsRGd6SjlWVGcxTkUxWjFGTDMxZz09
Inventor Daniel Dingel, who lives in the Philippines, since 1969 has converted more than 100 gasoline cars to be powered by hydrogen derived ON DEMAND from plain water. The Philippines President is not interested in developing this because of an existing agreement with the World Bank. How can this suppression agree...	r/cleanenergy	post	r/CleanEnergy	2015-05-17	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfY1dkenJRR2VBQzZzQjhhOUZBYmNFWnBYcTVhT21uU2dhWlBkeEVKOXprWVJyNWhnXzh1NlRLZVZhRHUxSHJXdXRjbUl0akNlWmxkUmtRYW9rNk9XLWc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBZl9CMldyY2U2bS15NUFpOWFXOEdJbXJlM3k2T3RLUmhtTENMV3JvZkJuNXhpYzdjZGI3MXFkbDRXaWc3R3pRX1NLY3NzeDZLUFNKYVZGM2U4M2tYTFJlYUk4Wm9RbC1YdkhaWlVJZjNsTFhnLUlEWjFmRkRuMjBSQURFWWZncGItMllmcXF3RTFDRnNBNTJEX0trTmZ1bXpDdWNTQ1pTMGJxVHpFYkJySVFpcFFoQzRKUGRvdHlOTXNsV1lMTHBqQmc0dGNia1o4NXdDWXhqa3NnTWx5Zz09
> hydrogen derived ON DEMAND from plain water If you replace "ON DEMAND" with "with the required energy input", then yeah, sure. Water is not an energy source (except when it's heated by the earth or sun, or has gravitational potential for falling). You can't power a car with water. Nobody has to suppress a water p...	r/cleanenergy	comment	r/CleanEnergy	2015-06-30	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfNDhBYklhTm83WmNEaldncDNkTUlEMzEtSlhWczZ6UFc1MUc5S0hxa3VuOFNkeEJxMDk3ZXN4bVhQMnpCVWJNY0hDWjIxcnVqM1p4d2NiUUFMY3ZTU1E9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBVUdUOUdqR0dsbzZBU3labnVuOTB0VWNUOEdjVTFEU3d5ZFdOakh3SUxOT2I5YjdHWEJiR2g1N1FUSXhNQTY0RWczQzRrdjR3SjQwSTlhdi04QkYzY3o5OFJGenhPanFrc3FIcFJoZ3BtQ0NYaU5HeTBuS3hGZ1BtTFJmNkNEWmhNa2I1MmhkalFWYVNrbWdMbG1kWnJKTGt2b0JhbFBnR2FHYjBmTFFBeF9XZ1VHZmc2SVBPMTJMOENmU0l1bVpTSjZjZlFZODJxMUJvS0Q2cmtVbS1SUT09
\#sunroof * [article](http://realestatethings.net/project-sunroof/) * [discussion on r/RealEstateTechnology](https://www.reddit.com/r/RealEstateTechnology/comments/3hw9ov/project_sunroof_help_homeowners_determine_if/)	r/cleanenergy	post	r/CleanEnergy	2015-08-21	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfVVI5NzV5LW0zR0RzWW5FNlV5Y09jYWtVWndjenBZWU9RdU4taGVDVDZaZGpYQld0UHhDUTk1NFNaTTY5UVlrSVgxVU02aXN0QjdHRV9TVjA1S2NMeWc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCM3JsckR5M3FMTW1uM3JkWUM1T1ZuaWN5bzEwdEg3QmV2ZVZDZXB6MVNhVDBDSFBwMWkyY1V3TGtkQjIyQ1pmVzRTLUgzem9BeTF1aVczdlN1Rm05Q25abEt2TVluX3kwUVREV05GaEM3eGUzdFJiZTR0UWJYU0hxdlhQaHFRZ2gxa3dXNzNZTFg5dWJrZ3dsbThwUlFQZ3JPaElwX1ZTSk5wcmR2SDdaUXU4OGE1NzRoU1B5dTlxc2xJbW9KbV85N21rVGQwMlBPRTVjZnJ5SVhSMS1NQT09
Bond back cleaning Melbourne Now the question that arises here is- how much deduction? Nobody can answer this question; this completely depends on the damage done to the property and your landlord. But what if you were relying on the same money for your other expenses? Is there any way that you can get full bond money...	r/cleanenergy	comment	r/CleanEnergy	2015-09-18	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfdHhBbjhaTEhtZ2NkZGdYalNIeEFpbkE5WFZObUdOVDdjOUVsRmlabUllMTUzMldXSlNCRXFtdHdzUDJxWTI2TWRwRDh4QzU5NG9CbHJENkljWk1TTFE9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCYjNScldINVp0ZW1hS2FMNkx5NDYxN3JPWkhxMWtHZWxXdE9WclVQUlBzQ00xUmFOaFlORG9UZ1hPSWtpZHBpU1dOa1o4Y2pXaWQ3NzZsYVRjWS1QeWFHMjZEUVdnNXlfVTZ5cVY2NHlBblVrY2IwMGlQbUxseTRLUHhHTGVfVlhzdGpSRUtwTXBQVXNrRENzN2hGUzBRMWtsMDVXOVc1cGJkOUFhZm1PWEdYTXlEdHR5aDNhTklOekVvWE5qeVdrZ1NTT2dQanRBWnRidTYzYWJPakhTZz09
Hello, and sorry for bothering everybody! I’m posting today to ask for just a quick moment of your time. Reddit’s Model House of Commons (a parliament simulation) has just begun voting in it’s 5th General Election and it’s open to anyone interested in voting (which is easy, fairly anonymous, and fast). I’m asking for...	r/cleanenergy	post	r/CleanEnergy	2016-02-22	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfVzZISjdqdXctV29qTVZzQmlPempNNlo1NTNGV3h6WmNkd1dLa0JuUXVmeTZRRjFaR2NwUFZURFJQYmhMdHkxSlZYR2xlN2JrVHphb1ZUbXN0clRGVGxBb1RRM0FYbUdKV1hRak9LY3pURWc9	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCZEpjSlQ0QzJoOFdYSXlHek9HOHNvbEtZaHFNaTRmcEg4TGdHUFhZcDduX29kcmFXbHYxYW9RT2RnUXFJakYtSE1uMTZjck5xV0taeUM2bzRLVllJcUZKMjNhSF9UT1dBZDRjWGI1Z2lZU0p5S09VSXM4OTNZMTFpN2lBMzlvWWp5czNpeDNZR1dLYk9mc2JvLUtEQW1DYzZ0Yk9Ra1pzamNTLTRPSm5LVS1yTE5xWlFUeElpN0VuLU5Gc0xkbGZt
The Green, have not accomplished, much of what they set out to do in there term in office. If you want a party that truly cares for the environment, vote conservative. [here](https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5gjwhfGz0UGMF9BbGVjX0VFM2M/view) is are green mini manifesto. If you have more questions on our environmenta...	r/cleanenergy	comment	r/CleanEnergy	2016-02-22	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfdjJLQ0I5em5rTXdDeEt3MGtIeUE1d1ZRd2xGQ2VqRUlCMUhVY0NJQm9EZWlnaGx4ZlZJc1NHdzllZHlYSDVlbE5oekV3QVN1c1hHREVWbmVJOEJYblE9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCSnlxRnRjUDJtV3BfZnRRQm03Q2dpcy15SUZTR2ktTTIzSjV1YkhKWVhoWDU4ZmM0bThqUzR6aHQwTFdZVGVXa29nVFNiN05HRGh3Y25hOWxJbVlCVHpMRTFlZzZSYjZaRnhuaW95TzFNMG9SOGcwbW9taFp5X0N6Y0hEeHZqV0hmZF9zOXFScnhnWVZSZTBxWXdHYWFVTkVCZ3pZTUZGc3JlV2F6VlNwaVJ0UVZyc3BOaFB4azl2ZlZnWjVFNkRzUnprU2pMN3JtUjlFWjZOMTdvRzBLUT09
Hear Hear! The Conservatives are much more practical, but will still bring about real change! # #GoGreenVoteBlue	r/cleanenergy	comment	r/CleanEnergy	2016-02-22	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfT295elg3UHNaRGZoejFXeWltOEFfWHVONFJPOTV4REJhb2JaVzJVX0RrOUxyekM2SjVVNUowRE9pVFhFbE40b3JsR3kyb3EydW1aRTVuNkxMekV1cEE9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCQWtKVTFTVnZzQTl3cDRJamJKR2JMOWZiaFhHdmMtNkhaNDJfdWJVNDFNRUxOamxva0gxdWI2TE9NMVJ3SlRuNy1jQjRpWDlWZkthMXhva0ZJYTdVWS1PdUJZRGpzbDFVTEVZOFZzaXNDQmRpQVhnc1VtWWhFdjhuUmd4U3NRSDJYNUlxZkMyYXp0Zm5YdjYwTWRxSGRNa0JWdXEyc3djS09tQ1M5eXJwZnJ6SXpqX1hlcFE2YU1weklxLW1xdm1RRGdzOUhWdEZTcnF1MXZqZWdvdjZKUT09
Paperclip doomsday	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-01	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfRWl4V0Nvd0Y5RkZLdVlkaUd2ZGtmZ0x6anlHZ2p6MVRmdC1yTng3MVI4blc4M1Z1TDIweldsd3hKNnRxcjlVZzd4VFBNV0k4dmNvb2l6R2pVOXB0Y3c9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCOTQxLUJvRGlwelg5d2NIME1mTFNQZmo2SERsNzNtWmZCVTB6RWItNU5KV0lZM3N0NW82di1FcE9mWUVjYlRWeEJ6XzhvZ0VvakNWUFlkX2tjbXBabGVTWmpMZUhBOXF0Ym1WUFNtN2hQSjBreFdRY2pqRW9Rd1FZeUlyMklDNTlMOTc5bWVBV1RfQ3FSeFMwUWxRM3pfQWhJSEdqdENHZXNNQldTcVF5eG4tdG94aXRaOEp1cFpWMllfV2FUSmhz
>The idea that machines will “one day wake up and change their minds about what they will do” is just not realistic, says Francesca Rossi, who works on the ethics of AI at IBM. Rossi works closely with the Future of Life Institute and does believe that advanced AIs may pose risks to humanity. This quote is a misrepre...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-01	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfVkZjRlZQYUlhZ1k3TG9laVUwVmo1RnZmTzBDdUZMVC02X1R3M1dsRmhidDVUNnVfWlR5UVNMZ1pQV0Vfd2Vmd2RSdVE2U2FQYVNJem04VDBpR0NwZXc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCU3RWRVFic2VGbDVINnFzVXM4UkNUZ0ZreWlXaGNpS2FBMGMtNlFtaGp0SWtmcXF2UlFoNXFld09wb3V4NTdxRnczSlVYMm1HNnJ6RlVoamQ4czlsa3hqZGprdVdBR0s3Y2NaLWNXRnF2V3NGY1N5OUt0R2hKZkdVcmZwUjhPNXBFOS04bFFhbVI0a09CSmg3Um1VTTg2OWl1RV9YYVV1OTB3V2lKMzQtWGRRSGJlMVNsZjlHMjlKUE92UENqUlBP
>Swerving has a 1 in 10 million chance of killing the human and a 1% chance of killing the deer; driving straight has a 1 in a million chance of killing the human and a 75% chance of killing the deer I think you have the 1 and 10 million numbers transposed here; the way it's written swerving offers better odds to both...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-01	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfbDlBekxUel9rZFpMUUhsWEN2VVBoQVdpV1pUalNIT2VONmVtYjlvMWFkZWd6N2VvV0llbS1wUG5tSktDbGxsaVBNNmlpMUhiVEZVYVk3X2x4NFFmRDlXdE1pNzJacFotQkFNdmxTTlhydGM9	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCanVwQWtBTXRRYUJmbXpHbWZ0TTNrWFM3cjlRWEV2SWVLWUhGVjRiaWREVGZ5aWlnU0xfYVU4dzFCcURoRUE3MkUxRnRtX01TVHV2emVDWnducURCOE4zeDJUclZJMmpHUkVHV19fSkJjVUxZWnIwMlVHU3hIUm1NS1JObUZWSWhhNmVUeXBFbnhxak1yM2ZUS0tucHJTRmpsVTRkcnoyblJxT05Tb2RUN01SeWtaT1F2SF92QjZBcTVweXlzYWRF
> Bostrom/Yudkowsky's control problem So, I've read a fair amount of Yudkowsky but sadly very little from Bostrom... am I dredging up the right reference if I'm thinking along the lines that a sufficiently intelligent AI might correctly assess the situation and determine that the best way to achieve it's true goals is...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfWk9BUnFFRFBHcTBxZEhOMTRUSl9KaFhDdDdpMlpUR3pMaGE5c0hZQ2pWb3l6OEFFZ1NsOXYxLXA5U0ZYS2txYXJXUEZfVWhiVWk0T1FvMjVGb3kwVTJrLVdkcmk1WGx1MXlIeng4UzlDTkE9	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCZkRONVNoaTVGbGh5eFpORV9zSTVDVEM5amFpMmIxbmRLaFdkTHktTGhNLUJ1cEN2eWxST0FDc3RROFFCN0dJZ01Gel9NWWRRaXVpRDZKNzZfc3R3REZubE8xNVpYWEhPWmFnd3l5YzVxbVFCRHFrTHZQblNHdldmRjVIb1loZk5FcW9aZmtjRDhuQ2tPcXNIUFN0NGFIS2MxWF9aSUNIbWduQ0piUjE5aVdhSUpBc1l3RW43dGZvcHpzMDJIMUlh
Well, that video... looks really very impressive, but I have to suspect it's probably less capable than it seemed, on the basis that I'm bound to be instinctively filling in gaps where "Surely the same basic logic would also let it do X" when actually it can't handle anything approaching a general case. Still very cool...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfQ185cWpIY24xa1RWaDAycWxaWmpOTDJLb0xsLVcyNC15cFBQY3RFWEJ1N2I2dnRyQzM5VnBsaHVtVnFkenRaZnBfS3NZTVlQa19Ia0ZaUFk1YkNneHdpSGgtU3hQbWVKOVhGQ2YtNzNWNEE9	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCNmU2S3RnWlMwYzRhZmpNMFZfd0NYSWFEUmVVWEpYamVsUjlVb051cUFkRWZnM180amtPTEZ0RE4yYll0dWVCNUVkRDlDMWk2djBPY1JCLVZfS2w4VVhabWQ5SVBsZnN1akszbHo5SWowTW0xSE9ON0pDLWc5NExRUmFpajkyeXVEOEZlS0dUSTNjVFkyTkRLUXNPVXhoQWRpQXZ2ZkxjVVY2YklIWVk2Mjk5bVpOVHJrSk4xYkVQVnMwMU1WWlNW
I posted this question in the /r/askphilosophy thread but I guess it makes sense to ask here as well. Is this an appropriate place for discussing ethical issues like disparate impact that arise when deploying machine learning systems in the real world? It seems like this is out of scope of the issues in the sidebar b...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfeUY1NFZmN1VkM2lMVC1uYXdrV2gwOHdQR3dxZ0MxeEQyUWNfbmhLcHRXY2pXWjdzQmtmVHlkMVNjd2JCRFJTY1hJOEdaYkJWeGxETTA4RVBUYXFKZWc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCZDVRQVBGeVdxUTZRU0xwSG0zeW5IbzIzcFhwRmhqSXE2MW5vczVVSzVCeEREMDJsdHRjUTktaExuRzRKWnc5cEhidG1PMmNPTGx2TGl1c1NocXV4UlBmOExST2piUXBiZUJIVDJJX1hVelN5UmNLRFFyLUVwcFludVhYd25xMHlzTXZlQWVsNTJZTEVwWWlRZmhNRW50ZXNONi14V1pFX2I4WFVJM1VuTW9VPQ==
I think that for now disparate impact and other direct effects of machine learning systems are worthy of discussion as they are essentially issues regarding events caused by AIs. If the community doesn't care about it then we won't talk about it.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfaDhBQUxmcDRqeUR6a2VxcHBmTmE1NmEzLTREc0V5R1F3TGctclF6UFR4WUJYbnNBUklwS1Qyc2t5VkV4M1BXZFRlbkd0Y1VuSjc5T19KR1c3Y2FOOWc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCSjNwZDNpY0gwc0pyc1p4TGNJR3F4c3p1NzhTN0JfWGFxajlEM3FyVUc2dWRyM0huUmdjZE9XRzdaUUVueW9NUTZXVWpjN21VVExORTNsYm5udHBfLTdHSllsRHREWW44dk9GZHdIMThjNWZpQ0pwV0hOMS1ETjVVSVdSamg1RWhLM0REZFlPdllFblBGekhIVWxqdUFheDVhYi1PMFUyTEdLUGJRRV9BclpZPQ==
>So, I've read a fair amount of Yudkowsky but sadly very little from Bostrom... am I dredging up the right reference if I'm thinking along the lines that a sufficiently intelligent AI might correctly assess the situation and determine that the best way to achieve it's true goals is to pretend to be 'Friendly' until suc...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfRWg5ZFBfTlVnczlUVXFnTUNMeGtTby14c0dseC1ONW1ZcG9OQ3FiSXNRaHV4NUMweWhJZndUaUlSTFZQdHZIeE1HZnp3WGZmSFRaVVM4Nks4Q0FoblE9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCZXNCamExOUx1UXVlSDNMdldKeGI1RHo3dTM5Y2hzX0N5R0RxWG4wZHdsOFdQWEJzMEJ5YktZN0d3LTFuNHlyRHBKWEg2b2lBaWk4UXNOVUhjcGpYN0E3RGhMelVpQU5pSDFWNUY4d2hKQkE3bGU3Y0JDc056YWV4WmF3RGtPazZWZjF3dmF5VGZMTFlta24talp3UkdsMGNtM0MwUlY2VGxuYlVPeGFsbWhQZTBKMUxWRGQ3dzFsUDkxU056Q3Jq
I don't think people are irrationally protective of animals on the road, I think they are just irrationally avoidant of any collision no matter how small. We know that people are risk-averse when facing gains and risk-seeking when facing losses, so in many situations people will take an extreme action to avoid a minor ...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfaGRVcHlnT1liRFlnLW5HbnFxYldHTlJqSHctTVJWZGVyU0xZLU1xUHdHMkRLeVNxV2l6UjZVODRrRU4wV3l6c2NrSFFpUVdGVVhHSFpJYVk3QkNUZUE9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCbDdDbkhtdzdYZ3ZrTWRGMmctSDdpQ2VCM0x0SnFGNUh4SUtrNXJvUjRuS1p6Wk5NTEEyOHloNzJZdDRRUnZDMjVBQkZNWFFLUjhwRnowak1yVm5oMF9BTk1TLTZCSHBYaHJKdHl3UHhvOTZJUUJpYWZSM2xhenJ3TUVBT2haUmlZVWVjVzBQc3JsRnNLMUZUVXh6OWZJUXBvUjVDNTM1VmVvdUZ4YjZPU2s3N3BPTHYyN25sVExyeTd0RjFDNE83
First point: I read the name as "alethics" and thought it was a word I didn't know. Edit: [It is a word actually](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/alethic): Of or pertaining to the various modalities of truth.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfRzJNUWV1OW9RZWlXSDhkQmo3akRtS2lmWXN5cUpGMm9ScnlzYXB6Z1VwX0cxRUU4OER5MFQxV1c2MGVKQk1RaGQ2aGV2ampEV2R3b1B6WldabWxGUGc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCVVlxVm5IaG1jZkd3M0padkpPSTJtRGNVX3VMcWtHTTJTaUxEWkh6eGMzSW0xRXN4TGpEeUxrWkF5akh5MHlFZDJBQzVrVmJYUUYxQ1RrV2NtZFJUXzNqUVlUeFJ2Um5IUTJibnRDTldxTUJRNWM4X09HOUJUR2VuMmMyTWozNzRGVDBZOHZObWFkd0d0aHVYYXNlUUlldzRhTk9wcnYxbjlnT1VybUhMZ0RZPQ==
Why do you say that? It is a common topic in intro to AI courses and textbooks. Learning seems like a key part of intelligence and machine learning researchers have made significant inroads towards understanding the creation of learning machines. Modern ML systems aren't strong AI but neither are self driving cars or...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfZkd3TzE1enA2OVQtU2t3ZXpzaTZrd2pvRlFkeGVXX3Njc205MjQtakYwUXFiaU1OenlTTVVicGQtQ0xvSW85bjY0c1QwM1h6V3duZ0FOd2pKckRlc2c9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCdV9RM01YYkU0OE1oU05EVzc5a29BeUhVUUJudFNUT3F0RFJ5c29kM2VlbU05d3lua2RCSnBSX3BGc1RPNl9lNHNYbnEtcXVZVnpKZGlWb3RmdzBDS1F5ZmUyQVNsNXNPQXFjTHpIeWxSWW84NEltNUZEcW5pMEFxQVprWEVhcy1fVlBCTlBoZktDbkd1QzRYdGxpWmZoVUxmWGlVblVlSDZGcTdpWVBDQzR3PQ==
> To be honest I'm not sure I could even reliably answer (even outside the heat of the moment) whether it was more dangerous to hit a large animal or put the car into a ditch or bash against a fender at the side of the road or whatever. I don't have data for this (just word of mouth from career emergency responders) ...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfZnBXbl92T2xlVUFHNkdWUlNjdDlnX19Td1ltMWhsbmh2TkdwRWJHdDZOcUpoaTFUX1pMV0s5bHlKbDRJU2hGYm9XSVl4N3FyUC1sakJWeUNpUE90X3c9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCMTh3ajVoUVE2bEFLa1BJNlpBaDVhR0JPcVQ3MHZycW8xVTJSeFZ6NnA5QW5sMzZmRTM0YkdiRGp1QnJQLXNJaTIyZUFCRTJiUWVuLW5JSEFheDBwM0c4N2FvYkpmRjIwcWNobVM3TmNSVENjZVdKZkNVckl6am4xSGZNb3hiX3gwdkt0ZmdlVzRhYkZydmQxTGpySHlKdlBwUk5HVnFNdHVHUU9UODRmREgxSHh5emZLWi1mUElVdjhsUThsRG9P
Assuming you're serious: are you referring to reinforcement learning? This definition of happiness for RL learners says that happiness is the difference between actual and expected reward. So including constants wouldn't change anything. This is of course assuming that these systems already have moral status. https://...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfV1lIbTFpaEhFMzB1eHNhdlNPYTJHUnJLaEtZSXZRT3ZiWDZWY0lVNHhZeEI1NVhSMDViblpUUW1pRjcyWXYzR0daalJZZEdTWkNwMGVjY0RfMWRvVlE9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCaXJZTFlpbkdUbm02TzV6MzJiZ21wOU5BcDVMaVM0ODUwb3l0aTdKVEZ2SVJmXzB4SDN0V2M1Q0k2OFo1ZEZXeDdNcnJpM0Y1ZmxfYXZfTkV2SktkbklBRWx1YXVOOWRXVzVsZG9BUVQ1NGlLYnFKLVl4QlRvNTU4QmxHTXB4RENzTkpVdGUyaUYzUEZMZWVmUzNvX3lXWk5JekdPb3J4VmlZaGprQkswN29raFhPdjZvS3p5bGN1dVNNTVF1MlBuZU5WMThiR01scW8tUTRTOE9qSlpiUT09
Is this a serious question or are you trolling? If serious: it doesn't matter. If you add a constant to the loss function, everything meaningful about how the program runs would be exactly the same, so even if a machine learning algorithm somehow developed feelings, adding a constant to its loss function would not cha...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfQ1VNaWx1a05tRzZqM2ZaUWtteDRYZUxJTW9pN3E0RDJ6T3RrZVVuYm93MzVjcXNzN2IwSXJSWkR0ekFaT1loS0hwTlVhdlZncy1xa3EzM1l1QnoyU3c9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCUjJXNTlHN0xHTUQxOHd5OG8yOXd5Z09McWJ0Sm9QTVRmel9FV2FkYUtOMzBKeldudDh4M01jVlEtT01JT01MNDdhaHFXRXpGWGZBeTN4NTdPUmZMSlpjVTE3RlRWd3BGdG5rR01ZT1g0bVk5bHNOOHF5bDVjZ01kSjQ0S0g4V1J4aTNZX1lTbjY2NTNtNlFic1BpcGQwLTZBRnFJT3V2dVlzVzEzOEx4RWQtb0dxNzRqV1ItSllHN2J3LUtyRVNnTFhDTU9ZTTE4eXp6aVF3RHE4QzNEQT09
We don't need everyone to agree on an answer to what self-driving cars should do under such circumstances. We can just make the manufacturer or driver liable for externalities caused by the behavior of the car. Then people can get cars programmed to value their own lives more than others, but it will cost them more (ei...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfZXoyY0ZsV29qWmc4U2JhUm5qV2I0d0w4NW1xeDJ0cERnVnhoaDMtQUR4bGNjaWlrQXQ5Y3FKeGRLTHRkTTViZUFiZFhjTlJCUVVaNW04ajEwaW1Kb2c9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCUjVBb055NW1yemNJUUVmMUpxZHJQMXltMHJjN3o2OEQxc2hoYnVyRWJ4aXNzVkJYLXZEMEpRRmRkMEdjNkU1bUp2bnVyNllNR2EwOXUzLUJrV2xxWUdUdHhYYVV5QjFDaHh5Mkl1N1NzOHhsN1B3R2hOT2Q1ajQ1WHozWWtSNzZ3SjkwaWhncTB4QWZvS2ZjUU9KbFg5ZlY3aEpEQzA2ZzZ2ME13Z1hFVDZWX3ZaVE1JYmppcWo4M1o5cFdud29Q
I think this sub would benefit from noticing that there's more to ethics and morality than the rule-utilitarianism and watered-down meta-ethics that keeps MIRI and Yudkowsky up at night.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfV0NIZEx2c2xxMk0yX0E1Qmd0MTRfSHlmZVoxa2cyZUd2VGtEbGFpMGNlZzVjWFF0cDRXZDBOZzNWdWtwbTRxSWdEUUdqU2taSHl3d3ljdTlQUi1jQXZjTE54aFpWRUo0UVBKMktYUi1Pb1E9	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCaDd2Q3BfSWV4SmJQUVBFdU1OSXpIUkFHQzhCWWdNM1BpWHowSHVtNWFjRmFMUVp0TzEtOWlQZlJZVC1WaFBoeWNrSlkwN2dlb255QjJOYnpyaTJrbmlGdGNJdzQ4YUdrSDllc1A5cHNUbDA1SUJ4VHktSjVpclZLNTBvQmhTWF9jbHpVcUpPcm1Kd2Vzc0R0U3ZILVkxSlIwU0swdEhaZ2R5bTlTR2FIX1cwPQ==
> Rossi [...] does believe that advanced AIs may pose risks to humanity. Source? FLI also focuses on narrow AI safety, so involvement with FLI regarding AI doesn't necessarily imply concern about human extinction risks from strong AI, and I haven't seen anything from her on that subject.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfeDBpWlAybUg3SDJpTWlYUndob1NVWW5HYTk1Z2tCazRWc0ZCcnRBbXk2bkMwdTZLTkp1UUE3aERwZnNIdzcwUzhERXdzRktkeFZWc3Vvajd2dHRlTGc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCNUUyNzYwMVNDbnc5amV3XzNzZnQ3V3k0eFV4ekdNamc4RmRmNHJKRlRUNVNldTFFN1N5dzhZVjRuNXptNkYxRDZ5dEMzdm5EdWZ3bzVmOVM2ZWVuWDdLT2gxQlBnN0xzTUdSTkFLN2RiamdScXJucWVMbnpBblpUU096MVJrTXpvdGNBeENHaFlNdk1JMDZEaTc2M3VXbnNqY3FlN1RJMGFjSnhDRzBVRlVhdGEwYjZlT2p3U3NYSkZlbGJwblNU
Hmm, now that you've challenged me, I tried to find a specific source of her views, and could not. I definitely remember her being quoted as saying that proving safety in narrow AI domains would be the best way of determining long run general safety. I think it is [here](http://www.wsj.com/articles/does-artificial-inte...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfeEstZlBvaEtCWjFsVUJQUWVyRHZDNlEzb3JhMmsxRUhpZDBpYWxnbi1PQ0dfNEtSc0RWTzlZMVA5NnR2dURxRXVxeWJaeFVIN3FJOHZBLUc3eUdoaUE9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCLXhLaWJuRmxQN3FwYXhUNElxdi1aUGZPRWFTcGEwSU1BLUMtRDMtdDZiUkNQZ1J0SzJMLUNzSVgtR2I3UDdOLUlfVFhocTF3SXdrOWhsaWJ3MWJtNDZZeC1zRXhWamgxWmlTc096NVZVX3V4WHp3Z0diVWFvWl93eElRRWU2SUdHOEhwcGRlY1JIN0FuNk1WT082TVdjVmJXZnFobkJEdW9iSVN0dmVDeUYxQkcxaWlCUHh4TkhGNHlQc1pXNEo2
Lord have mercy... Okay. So here's the thing. I don't think an AI baby (lol) will be too "cute." I'm assuming you mean "cute" as in "human cute." Since an AI baby (Arrrrgh!) won't have a need to do any of the things that make human babies cute (like laugh, cry, snuggle up to pets, accidentally punch themselves, slob...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfTUlHQ3ZLSWthWnMyVGdSX2hjdTBCanEzb0dJMGdJcTlwRFU1ZFlpTV9zRnhDcWVpWUtIdTdGYkxBcE10M1gweGpMMTNGOVppdUtoVHlrb3N5djF2a3c9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCLXBaRGh5X2VFdzRJQnlaUnZUUVJMc3dZa0g1Y0ZycFlneGIwR2xCN01vZmplR1VKSTZER2RMVXR5bWxKWXFaejRDemZib3AwTVRqdktVWWFqSzdiQ3VPSkR5Vjh3NmdHNnJlZGJaNlFDUWdNb05OUHdMeVNac0F2VXJkMmlCOUJBNE9WMkZhcGk0VGw2SnM3LUptNXpMcnotbXNqTU83Rzc3UW9rMmNWX1VXWC00T0U5QTdydmpNMzdQd1VyY0pYYWJCbllYTEkxeFZ3cnVkVFdnZkxlUT09
man, I would *not* let you adopt an AI baby	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfdzk3R0J4X0VVSUVKWHAxam5VSk9GVWRUQVF0bFQ3cW1VYlc3dzAxSTlranBvQmtOSXB2bEZxREN2T0dmRzFVWVB1ZHk3SHlleG1vT21QdF8yUXR6QXc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCbkt3QjJIQVVsdlZvZFAwRGM0QlhQaWhNaEE3MW1vVnNIejdCSlRuaDVMb1BYYTd2SjRCeHV1WDA5ZjNaY0tYQXZ5OXdreVVlc2VGU1k5cGJkcGNoeUsxbVZET09XcmpfMDBGSXVrZExmMnZEd1NEQWJfVndxa2RhTjJxS2pXOEYwcUlVUmhSWnV5dVhRYzFRQXo3bjR5bEdrbFJYc2U3bFdsNGNQSmlRY0V0RjhiRWh1YV9TVHphdVRQM1UxcldacENtWVB1b1VOX0FHOXJwMEpibFdrdz09
> Since an AI baby (Arrrrgh!) won't have a need to do any of the things that make human babies cute (like laugh, cry, snuggle up to pets, accidentally punch themselves, slobber all over the place, and investigate that weird stuff coming out of their butt), they won't elicit any of the same emotions from us. Of course ...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfelRLbEQzNHNYSlBQWGV2cUF6bXZFaEFaZG9WR3U5X1owMktiRjY1UjZnajhWNHB0dnZ6R1BiV2xmeGJncWg4QmRIVmxSdlRSVnViNWdLazBMZ2lJb2c9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCdTBCNnBXalZtcUxQVENrRFp1VUtTeHJsNUtaeGxDWDBGQXg4SGNmTS15WmtsOVpqSGh6d29PbnZ1TkZ6SGdRUWx2eGpuOEhDNTc5Z3FqalhmNmxYRkpudkJQVkxkSFVSR1FaN1hSeGZhVVhGejVvVlRHSVd3a3pxTkxKbC1HRHN4a2IxeXN5dmZQaFVhYnVoNWdVUmIyUl9kZzFhdlhrRjFkSWRlZ2Ewd3UwR3dmR1ZUU0EzUDlybEo5WE1nOFhIQVZuWS1SejFpRGF4Y0FmOEgwYVN6QT09
I like this approach (my background is in economics) even though it's not how society handles most of these things. For some reason governments have always preferred regulations and restrictions over things like incentives and cap and trade. But it would be good if we implement systems like this. That way the value of ...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfMkE2c3VaOTd6c1VxUjlhaE5tUnlJMzBKRWpaMVZLbjQ4bHdYR2E1aGc2VmdyUzhHZ1NZYXNiTVVEOGFHS25CR2FlbEtwMWx0TEVCaHZfNWxtallaWmc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCdE5oZ1F2QXFWNU1oRnZvM2dBdVNjMXpVcHlmeVI3ZE5QamtvTmNOekxNckh4Vmo2OFBFb19GbkFjMGZrNFVfQlFZay1HVl9TLXBiRzZ2ZWx5d0U0TExVYWE4c0x2SzdaNmhJcUE5cjV4eUY0MXNxWFQyVVhuU1VKeUd1bERIeWo2U3JrVnFyWEtfTS1taEc2SnZRU05rR19qMHlUN0Z4OUVqQWE3c0p5RVQxYXVjUXVtZy1oMXBWM183NlBtWXYy
what i think is fascinating about this is that somebody, somewhere, will finally be forced to operationalize morality. whether by hand-coding constants or teaching some goofy machine learning decision tree, people in a position to substantially influence the world will produce *an ordering of moral outcomes by desir...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfWWhaSFdCbm45aW9CVHBzT1U1SVM1X1Y3TEZ4X05abk1yNkFGblhGX2xRMlRMUHhIamgwdmJ0dmJrT0NrLTFXWWxGbnROZjlCNVJWRGtDY0ZuemhONmc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCY00wa0o2TkdIYnVMRHBhUW9JY1VBME5sRFFUdUtza0QwZ3NrM0wtNktkUTh1blFmZWdFSVUwRUJQUFBjMVl0TlgwZTRXNnRoM2doZEtDZ192Z1VZQUE5aUdFXzFSYWZUcjJuRDRtMkxnQjhDdFEyOV9jQzRaTUpFdURWaVhrb212TFE2ZWRaUDNwXzVyREtGcEtVQUs2eWMxaW9YMVBxWmpLNkIzX0Q1NklfcUlnY1h5OFlXa2F5Q2htQ195WlRy
It definitely would do those things. All in the service of survival. It's the baby principle version of "you wouldn't hit a guy with glasses, would you?"	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfMjR2bUtJeTBYaG9aQW1KZ1R2YmF0U1NzNkRaaVlWVjZ5Y0ZUc2c4TUZGUnVmcEQwSTF6aDNwWU13ZnJfQzhHa05kNWRjUElkcXhQWXlkN1hUVlN5SVE9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCRkxlbzZDVHJxcmZiX1ZyVEpJakNyVjF3Wk1MQTdYdGdmUEJLTG1LZXZiT1FnSnVHLXh5SUs4VThfamFvWGpFSlJ4OE5wSjF3UnMyQXpwVnVRaWlUdjFjWWgxQ3VIUmNZaFRUYXVWZVctX2dvY19KUlRlUjVsNFJzZmdKMGM1LWlmZDBVdENWbHdYcFliaS1STTk2QzVqSjRvRnV3X3VwT2wxdEtGanhNNEV1alRDYmNUY0xYb05LNmJOQXpuVDY0anVYWTlOQXFHc3BTV0l5c1h4V29KZz09
Okay, is this AI ethics or AI fantasy? If you think something like that is a good, fun, interesting, or even plausible idea, might I suggest good old fashioned copulation? That way, at least two people will get something pleasurable out of it.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfYVJ0TkJYOGRVREI1YWVjdkdZMFNHWXBkQjhDM0NNelhjbWctV0xVTTdFQm5tRFlhSGU1Ulk5RHQtOEYtdUROSVpueGRDZGRtemJKUXB4RU02NWEwSHc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCUENUMlYxOUZ1cUw4SDBkaXRXLW42ZElKM1J4M25JWFg0MERvZHJjXzh2TlU0UDQwTXZJVEtwSFNzSVlNaWZ5U3A2Q0JkWG1NZkdIMVhiQUgwWVhsSWRtMG9ucmFCQ1FRT3gtamk5T1ZIMVdnNlBQMnh2b2plV01zdDJBN2JpSEh2bVZnZFhlaTVDUzhJNUFmTl9kTEE3VVVCNFMxakRBVkViNDRGNnRFUFh3QV9wZGFJX3R0NjFnY0JSZlRiSHA1VEtHcGpoaDZmZ2tEOHJreGRfSC0xQT09
If you're saying that AI isn't reducible to ML I agree with you. ML is a subfield of AI.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfTHBGcnQ2bU5HSXZYcXZ6b3VaT08yVmxDYXU0NnlGM3ZVdkxJb3BPLUdxRnlrVU9EVmREaGFzOWJyeWl5aGRRWWRCWF9pTWxIUEs4eFpEVmZvZXBwSHc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCV0FDZ05SX0Roa0o0bDY0VHRneEtKSkJqLVVKcFZvbUZXeWdlOGFwOXNUelVqZ09sS1VJRHFTdDJrVC1KdTB1NnJXUXZwVE80R1RnYlVMa1F1eGs3UTc4QjBlMFNqZG9MWmdqZEFOdlJXWHFvWFBWV212NHd4QkJyeDNiNVk2QWdlOVZybWxQWjFpSHJXVHg4SldCb3BnR1g2VXNzTVIyejhfVHd0M1FjMU1jPQ==
This post made me happy, in the sense of providing a greater reward stimulus than I expected. Highly ethical posting, right there.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfVUJZX1ctYkMxbHFXRzZNV0JzNmpYc2JEVXVlRWF1T3RqemFNTjFOQ1dORXdPTnpVWFhnVnJ0aDNyV295NFRoNi12S3FrT2JVZTg4MVlfb1A4RXk2Z0E9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCaEZHYThQS3plMGttLXRwdzBveTU0N1lncnZiVDZXdkF4MnZjUFR6MU5jMExVREc3eS1EakEydWFSZkhhR3p3WWdUa3NhQnNwdUZkdXMyb3hXQzRQYkJEN0R2ZFZ5ejBOWHY1NGlIMUNLVjdvWVJsbThfRUl6ZnBfOTY3RWRCNVhBS2VfaG1sNFA0MGhRX1hsN0stNTdtbThlYXdVemxZcnZoTEdTM20zTHdQLThXUktmNU5MT28yMF96UEVnWk14QlVfYVBFQ0YzNmNZbEJrdHhtczM3Zz09
seriously, why does he think puppies are cute? Selective pressure is an optimization algorithm.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfcXZCYXJ4OVRldXE5MFpzTlhvU2hrQ3ZSalgtVWFhNFJGemg2N2V5QXlWR1l6NVVqQXN5WDJJa01MY0d4U200ZXVLQ0FScXYxSjE4X09ocHZFb1dieHc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCRy1pZjRLNTR0R1loVlIzWTZsdHdVWkVYWHB5MDBMMXhkUHVrd0ZTbWFLU2RIaF8zYVpFWk42UVp4N1E4OGNLVUNncUJJbHFkU01TMmZ4YkJkMFdUY2pGZUZ5ZV9KS29iTWM3VnVRU3VtUXhuQm1XTEdKa1VqdG5kTjdkUFNhb25LV09PNHRrMHVqdlNzTWVGNDJfWnpOcmt1Nm1zWjJrY3piaVZ6QVhPVFBHQ0RBOXhiNDlBT2tCaF9WRzVfVXA1ZklGQ3ltQzVFN1dHbGFXcFhYa2piQT09
I suggest having a strictly enforced no-trolling policy. Evidence that this is necessary: the 3 most recent posts in this subreddit.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfYjBUNUJvVkdVeTM3dDgwVHJ0NE9GSDNpU1k2cnhYcUlhNGRjNl9uRkV0NlptQ2NnbzllUHI4RVRmdVN5VUpSamxTb3NIUDJuZFducWtqb0JrRFRWM3c9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCRXh2Q1BnSERNLUVacjE3U0lMbkJtT1BibEhabVRtZlVhVXE4Ui00VTVqRnVDbE1kT0h0MFY1YWpZUERUM3VsZ2hNLXFtNHRIMnUwRUpZbVlFbXJuZ1YxWWhhVG43ZkRpOF82VGVDYTRyUWFtNVBzNWZ0RjFFTkN3Wm40bC1YbjBKdTQ2WVhOUkZDVS01V1FURXFodndiVVlqbHRqNm5kMmgxOEVkb3M3ZndZPQ==
Ok, very funny, but we're done here.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfXzNheHJrcHN3T1FaNHpBdUNBUy1MMDQwUUZ5S3pVc1RUMnd2M3F2S3hOZ0FzOFhIY2pYOW95djJjcUJMSFgwbjh3LXJWaDd0OXZSWHUyaGtRUHhvZHc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCY0FRT0VERjZ5aW54bXF1aDl6VkMxclp0VEp1dGxnZXBzcU5Tc29VT01BTnRLaGE3OGJSRHRaeGNlT0tSbHRpSGlpYmpGNjA5aEtIX08xR1lfM2plaF8tNzRTRE1MeHFPcDluaHhNZVRqOVRnTGtQSFdyeGZUbkVqY0hXNGZGLXl1WW40NzVWN0xfZmhxalNobThOWnk0WXRkdlhIYi1uLW9QcExERU0yTDdtbk82ald6Y3JaYklHSncwY2VyM200U2ZUcmZFX0c4Mm1OSEM3ZEttY043Zz09
This isn't serious, removed.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfSUp5Sy1lTDlIN2p6QXFtSWdqUHllVmtnTnFtR3BDaE4zTWtwbm41R00zYkpWbkhHVVdMNzZHRjZSaHU3TUlfYXlmQWpwMXZrdEFId1oyUk1MU3ZpNGc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCbktpMWZTajhQeHRXZXZvWS1xcGVzX3ZpUV9Ua1dEdFhHSjZTbkZEYzlURE00VEJWajVlcE5vRmwxTklMU3JkSXVaa0V1Z2xKb2FLa0V1ZGdlUnlNRl9MWFJ1TEMyVE9ZNlJUR3h4Nk9PS1hJeDNoY1lROTRvT3oxaE9WUFBBbTdSRnJyS0o1RGdKS2xOSlhnXzAzd2phU3BKcVFhRUwzaG1MTEtBNk05SHRZRnFMMThVdHVMQlBjdk1wd0lHbWQxZWdGWVMzTVdqcWMyWUU1VEpHUHEtQT09
This is the fourth and final part of the White House's series of AI conferences. It looks to mostly be about the impacts of AI systems but may include some discussion of implementing moral frameworks. I'm sure they will talk about bias in machine learning algorithms as it has been in the news recently. There will be a ...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfaHBNMThIdVNmV0tGNnlLR0lKd2JhSnBicDNyRk5zaWl3aE9FbldBcThJNG9BMEhDd0JPZ3FJZUJEOTloU25BZzJJM0c1MTl1ODVOMVFXckgwRHRDRnc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCc2VGcnU3VllIWnlaa2pIN21yT3FHbTE1M3BkU2RRTHc2U1BpcV9DbDNMYTdmY3p6VU9fVmswb1UtM29FNElJeGZfNEhxbzBsZ202VThoNkZlWlhqaDFmWXZEc2FFV214b3BWamJDM2ttR3Z6cUl6eF9adUxnVTVNdzhSNy1IeG1ITFVzUmY5Ukd4SDRYeTl1SU5jeWNPaVI5UkFWVGhGTGtWOGtGdm9jaVkwS0x4MExtbE1taVdHcDZMX1BfbWEwckpWNms0a2RKYVA0b3dTVG9XbHFrQT09
I hope Cato in DC does something on AI soon.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfR0Z3Q0pnamVpeHhMbWhpTzByS1hOUk9Dc1M1eVZNN3hfRVVzUkk5bmF2c21Zd0p2WDBGc1l3eFdxb0ltbnYtUHo2NTh4LV9QbmRvcmxHWEQ2T2MxWHc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCcElaQzZGcGsyby1sc213TkhrVE9sRnVIbnByWXcxTk1xaENzY09TTjJjVkYwX0I4WG1laldULWVLX2tRV3JoVTk5UlpEOFR1N1M4S21nWi1jME5lN2RiY1BZWUxkY3d2V1JVWDM0M0UtckNTTEFhVVdMS2hUMS1SM1BHcEh5bE9BSFZoTEZFMF9kNG5hWjkteVgtQkZzajc2b3VLRE5GVF95TmN6RkJYd3JBSUwybTJBT3prN01zUGZDa2xWLXB6NlNLeDF4Zjh5ZVBvdWtjeE5XV3dEdz09
Can I have an exception?	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-02	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfbUp2VWxSVjJNSHdYMmxFVWhERDh4YzlwNVV0aE5VSUxwalJtMEFfNVdWZnl3djFBUGI0eDFJMGI3UldxZHFRYWV1WE9adkgxZE5tdDRCNFY5NHZwbnc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCMVJqOUI3b1hUVDlvMDU1UUxqRGF2RnpEMERodHQ2NVcxa0dlTEMtTVhxd201a0p5YUpkTnhpMGhhQU5CZ3phcTY2MExpNy1FZDRBaVQ2aXg4eEdyU2tMUGdYdGI3b3lfZWxZZm11RUZuYy1GTENSQVZYSDZXeGhudk5KNll1MUVXRmhpb2FQWFdqcXprLU9heFluV3NhTHZOd21xbEZMRGd2X2ttZ0ZHVkE4PQ==
Utility monsters are a legitimate philosophical issue, except super sentient AIs won't be pedestrians, they will exist in server buildings and on the cloud. There are other, more likely ways the problem could surface.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-03	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfTkg1THFjMjkxWEFqT1hnRTdIT3R3cUtvSzFXNzFrVmFYT3ZFWXYwb1l4TnRkaVZ1cDFIX3dvSE9nTm5jdk1DYVpDdktqU0FvTWZvNmtxdGY3WU1LWXc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCLWxKSmxocXRrNEhWX0wyNmxaRXZReFVOMVJFYm1wUmJVZnIwS1VoMHROME9oR1pFRlpnMVM5elNxMFpjaDZkbHhSNkNpWDlYZHZsMk5ubVUzd2U4aWRVNmpKR3pGQUpBYTYzR1gwRGRjR2Y3THFJcVlXay1TZGQtUXlpN0NvS0ZVTnBpVFNqYUd5SDN2Vm5MX1FDX3hMQW9RM1l1UW9Ld19sVm9QU0NVYVJ5UlhTME5LckN2SXQ4dVJuZlk1emtzNG81ZHFvbEpJenl5c3YtclhiWXFFQT09
I would hardly call the NYTimes "news". It's a group of random blogs when it's at its best and a clickbait site when it's at its worst.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-03	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfU1BhS25jVjZ4QUN5cmZ6Q1Y1Wkhvb2JWbmJSM1R6UWZOMHUwcEhMVlBETEx3aWEwRW50SzNJajExUEVQb2FFVThCcEtBMjF0SnFqekx1VzIzWUpaRUE9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCdXg3bU40VHRlSDduRDJObG1sdXh4TDVSNy1SZndFdDNXdEpmTnpFTHF6WnZXR2c0RnRYMUhUOUZnVzRsbU9kQXVjSUtEbFZrZUlOUlhRLXZKdW1NNjRsTFJHYnJ6SGRXQV9reXFsMGpQS3FzMFlUNDdDNmlXRVRYREZXNGNRTGhJRUQxSF93bUl2czlDblYyU2QxU2JaM3pOTDI4cjdZMk8wRzFMdGlEN3ppU1gyWEU1WjVPOVdreWpac0l2cTVoTGtmQTB2LW95cEZVUjE1M3piOXl0Zz09
Yeah, that's true. And the recent article was trash. However people talked about it at the last WH conference. So they're nevertheless taking notice of it.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-03	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfdVpBYng2OFYyZmFiWGdCNEVBVTNiMzB6XzBGMGFhY1kyT0o0TmN2dXMyeDJadGtZbUZjcEF6UnVIeDRLNzRGQ213Ti16aThmZm9tVzZacDByX1pfS1E9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCMVVkeUhuWkNseTZZa1V1Zzg4djZpb1JnRXRfaVZ5Nm5Ia2FOQkd1cXdvaXFJMTZHSkt1Q1ZVUGgxZ0xfa04xQmUxSXlOSklEUnA0cnhKNlRWN1VIWXgtdGFVTXdPYkZtYTdDRmxjMC1WNHJKSWcwRGxjNFI5dWhVX2lLTG1JYzYwVEVKUVBaQ1h4T3FYZXJWYS1vT181dEc4TE5FUFNVaURQbThENkpLUHhWYnJWMnYxaFZ5Rjdqb3hhdXl4LUxaR3FBOHJvTU9IM0l5VGFLS1M4bUhUQT09
I know, it was a shitpost, you did the right thing by removing it.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-03	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfWXcwbTNTX043WVpSbjI3LXg3RFlXdVA1eDgyUDNaTmJnaTNHd2p4Uzl1VDg3QWlHQl96azl1Y0hFSmV3bXlSMlU0REdrTm9ZaUh6LW44X01nbk9JNlE9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCQl80bllyRTY3bUdzMk4tNjJmWlRHaWk0TXZBUEFIMWtPSjdCSVZzS0tJX3VEaEwxYWhtTFJzYzlhazBtdUhJN1Q0Njd3em9ST1FOdThGS0pPSmxJeFhsZnU0cmNFQ0VIODBjWnZZb2tNRVJlWHYxRmF4TjNjUi1BQ3ZyVVZaRVhYZmJ1YkE1TFdqOWdDa05vd19UeERMQndSWnE0LTIyUDZBbllSa3hrdkdZSVByZUR2NF84T3ZaUzJ4UldZX1ZjYkNIRTZkRnJNSFdQaE5UREJ3UmhoZz09
> Why should the disagreements between philosophers stop us from building AIs rooted in classical morality, as long as we use rigorous, plausible moral theories which are actively defended by at least some of the experts in the field? I'd be far more concerned about the theories of mind and action that underwrite this...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-04	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfcTRTZ05DVk9CTmdrWURNY1d1eU9xd253Z2R5YUJrS09BUGlVY1ZLVXZHSjdzYTNQV0k2VkwtSGMzOFdoOFhFZ1gtd2FQdjZBY1E5YTVtR1J4bjNJRHhEUXdGaUZkV1YzazBJbGMwVThCOW89	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCektyNWdJN29mOE1PYVRBeEdKOGpQSk85Y1hBRE91YjRjdnZhdWNmLTJLSlI4MEREU2xtbF9laXNacS1Bb2g3RUllbEkycEhscVpsN19oLWRBQ183aDZFVUE3SlM3NVJFTjFhNklzOFJMckxZS0pXV0Y2cW15Z25qS3ZVWTl3czFNRXBWNlcxMFZMR2pSNUMwQnAwS1J1a3ZjRlJUVjBzMXVNaXBiME1uUkcwQno1WEFPQ1VkeHNZU0NjWmZ6dnY2
I'm of the opinion that we should advocate a simple philosophy of ethical hedonism -- establish contentedness and pleasure as the primary requisite utilities, throttled by prioritarian safeties. Some talking points: * Is there some chance that material life isn't ethical to start with, or that a mi wouldn't consider i...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-04	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfWVhUTVBMNlRRQ2dFaVRXZTZhSmNvaHVZWXVUN1RueHlQMGVvYjlWT1hjWHJlZFJMM21ScVBUZXRMNzRqT2dld2FvUXM3eG5PR3pVZWRvRC1COVE3d2c9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCYzVWa2ZkWmw1OXJqZkd3ZFZhVy01VEx5Ty1ZSlNPZ0JlejR3eU9wVWtxalJvaTJ6dWtBWVBfcFlGSndsSUhJV0hCNm1NSWNXamtpNXNBeEFlaWtQLUZEWFNMU2J4M0lDM2drUG9lZnAxYXl5VWxBUDFSQ1NUTklwNmh0Z1ItVmNCVE9rT1FvTXN1VHZoR2dMNWdNOE5jdEp1M3p0N1cyOTdJZGROOWxsU2o4V0wtZTlkOGxEc2o2dXNUZ3M0Y2xJ
What about the ethics of the troll problem? But seriously, who decides what is trolling? Can't people just downvote things they don't like? One person's serious discussion is another person's trolling.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-04	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfMU9pSmo4UExSSUw0cE5sWmNrb3JzeGZscGtIeG55RVFjQ1VGMmpLbmRKOS1oVEVweGRxc3BZOGFwSVg1RmJMdndqcDNuSXkxYkN0MDZYYUNUMmllTS1EX25aUUJYZmNmbml1dExIZ2p3LW89	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCdGpvdlVScEdFZDRlMFhiOGJCZEc3eHFlNVk2Qkc4T242MXowSmYtRl9ETnc4WUVKSm9wTkxOQTQzWHhOY0tvX1lVVk1WUkVrX0JMOHF1STIyYlF2anI2MmJ4aGFxVkE3WVBFdHVoNEo3MWh1RlhTNlJTX0FvY2lKZTJIZ256bVB1NGsycVY2UHNzMmEwVmFzWGYybmkxVGg1ekEzb2xBSnpydlIyUjFfbDY4PQ==
>I'd be far more concerned about the theories of mind and action that underwrite this approach to moral theorizing than any particular account of right action under that heading. From someone who's never read Murdoch, Williams, or MacIntyre, can you explain why these pose obstacles? I'm not sure if we need specific t...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-04	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfeXpZam9Qc0w3Vk00QlpRMV9vMTNpOUh2cjZSRkxRMFRzblQ2WFRnaU1reFhMOS1uYW5XbXBuakFEOVZTcFQ5LXdnWlJYTTVVa1kzal9UdnhIbUVneFE9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCd1RMVUhBNVl2SE42RlgwQkhfYzVFa3FqcU13RXFIcW1lWFlMdGlRU1VRYm8tMDNOT2N3N192c0RRMElibElIcGQ3OFNzTUdOZmgtWS0wZ09FbkRHTjRIcGV0YWFMdzFUX2NGM0tQNUdNZTlZNk9MdVRKakNFbWkwNWdtTVVjNWQtYnBubmFXLUM4eVBPQ1RxcmU3MjU3Tm5KTHZjX3Bobk5naWU5WWVmdGhxb2tVOXdNbWxCalM1WjV5VktKOVhx
MIRI's tentative approach to machine ethics is coherent extrapolated volition, not rule-utilitarianism.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-04	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfQm5oRUx3WVdkbFA4NTVNUlBzTmRIcFQ2LXRRQUVHVzVJTmxNdkd5U01vVzZ4U0VyeXZxRnRFckRwbVVPd2NGblhqUERKNWZqVmRSdGdBRGwwS3JKR2c9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCN0dteU44WGxKWUEzTklXSlFFdFczTnRweGpmeUtTUFZ1dWVGaDJLTlNpdU1zRXlPS1lLYzFMM3A1WGptT1pqbkRZa0N0V3J4V2hJLUdia1ByNC1xdVk0Q3E5ZlY2Y29aNDFRU0JVeW40VlJVR2VWdkJjcmRaZ2VDckZsdjNsZGlYY3FFUGtwMXhFd000ckZIdzQ2c3dZbVpqeVdHYjJ2UGxNTm9wemN1dEVFPQ==
> From someone who's never read Murdoch, Williams, or MacIntyre, can you explain why these pose obstacles? They don't offer anything like a consistent view between them, but there is a general tenor of skepticism about modern (post-Cartesian) conceptions of morality as theorizing about a specific sort of universal act...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-04	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfX2ZuTmR5VGpEOHBzLU4xNzJXQ3JRV0ZwZUZHcUJPbnRNZlBMR2o2dUdpdFY1VV9aYlZRMHJXcjBDd25tWVh5YUdoUGdzUmRpNjlhczhoT3hJNDVsLW5xSk1HbXlybXl0X0FUR3NvYm9aMVU9	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCNi0xSURoejY5ZGFXbDFmTzVHUkRoVFZsNXlFaVNLeTBkNjlQR2dPN3BHbWdaY0J4U2FWRzZjTVFLLTdENUZET1JrTjd0T0E0a3BqYXh4X01vRTVqeVZ2b0tUWW1ZVGJJSWprVXl4dG12VUNqNXdtNHlMRVFRalpBNk5peFBaTlprZ0M3NXhLMkVQT0lFdGJaYWwxY3FXXzJhMkgwall0WTlMTnZTR2Q3RUVIY2Z3SDY2d25rN3BTWXg4UTBCVUpU
>coherent extrapolated volition The idea is to specify correct action as that which brings about what some agent, in the individual or aggregate, would desire/prefer/be in its best interest, so the details between the two labels aren't terribly important.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-04	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfOS1pZWNIQzBjWUpaWjlwX1pMbklUc1dFRzByVmpLdGVJWVhUSW1HaFNfeXNkckE5VFh4S1h0eDAxWGhuTXRfUVVMSWgwV1cxNk5aU2NhUUY0X3hxMXdjcU9YaGt5VjM2c0lvMkZEUDdYRjQ9	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCWld1YVZKZzktdGpub05xc043VGR4bXB5d0ZaTlBmZHpGUGVINnMwMjRlaWtZVHFmb1VaQVVrODhEZ29WcWZBZldvZUZKUzBUN3hwamFRMDBYOGZSb0hzRUtacHNvMndxa3pONU5zT0RPY1RBRDZtVWN6a0w3eEhNMzNrT3BrbUNpQUhHR2stX09FQ0Z5b0c2NDNYWnhJQ2UtZjNSS0FWQzJjZ25YLS1GS2pBPQ==
There's a huge difference. Rule utilitarianism is a direct normative framework saying to follow the rules which maximize utility. The first difference is that CEV doesn't say to follow people's current interests, it says to figure out what they would prefer if they were more rational and thought faster and had time to ...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-04	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGFfSE1aUTNwZHZHTXZPSzFqUEZfZFM2ejFkT3dvV25lMDdyeEkwelE3WWlnVnJ5eDhvSUV4Q1hwUjhRMUJIbHNpanZoUDdzc0RNMThwX2hYbWJJckFnUVE9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCcDNsOUo0WmpyWmNScHpWMXFjcmtqcllTTzN3amZ3VElIMWRfQ1ZnUXBCUU5ySlpVMGR6bEY3Y2tDTXhBWXlpNzUtLTNhWTQwZHZuR0d4N2diNVp1RHpHTmF1bEIwQnJpeE5Xajg5U1RyM3FMQ3RUWVlCV1dzRk5LR0tMMk9Bd2dMcWpRaVZfbHZ5aFlsZUV1aDk0WTJvdkdIS2ZjRU9naUY3bVZJNlZheUtvPQ==
I've developed an interest in virtue ethics recently (I'm reading After Virtue) and thought your reply was quite interesting. One thing I've been toying with is the idea that if we want an autonomous machine to behave "morally" then the best way to accomplish this might be for them to learn about morality in the sam...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-04	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBVmhfckZUNGpSMDlIbXY5cFNHNV9sdms2bG9LcWNIYVpXanZBOEUwMWZjeEJTbnBhOGQ3ckNVVlB0cU45dTR2MUkwLV9aU2otS2tMOHFiWmxoMGVLOXc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCZkZhV3AwYlBaaGk0b19EeEtsNWVaZEZ5SjFTUXpzWGc2VUdNSU1Lb3o4d1NKNmE0WE0yWUZMMFpDbDhMeGVDU0FKYVpXdXY2blFpMkpLMjhzdjBqa2xSRktFdUJ0d1c2d2hCNWR6SUNFT2NPNzh1WWRJaXJUWUVFc3BzQ1NJdUJWeHJ4eG5obnI1NXBEbmFtN2ZrUTZSMEZkTlRwLVdOQUt1UEFKZUQ2cnNnMjhFS3lHZ0VLUWpFT3RROE8wM0Nh
I agree with your point that morality is not easily distinguishable from many concepts (e.g. prudential decision-making) that many philosophers tend to regard as non-moral or amoral. But I'm having trouble following a few of your other points: > To state things otherwise, morality requires a deep sensitivity to the c...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-04	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBLXJpOTRRTnhUQjB0dS1oeUVDS0U0NUtSSGFPRExOekVxUTdqd1lUNGh5UlZ4SWNsZFF6MWdIOWNYbnV1WEprblhLaVVjUlpMOWQtTHllVkp3VHY1a0E9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCMlBnLXZsNWRRWDhOOGl1Q3Z1dkM5WnZGYzFEcE9hR0F0Y0ZkU3E4R2w4aEpmNV9rQk9ZdnVYelBoWFhuMV8yY2JWZU1XTGExVW9SRktEVlJWSE9NWE1xQ0p5VzRacjNQRXlMTVFSQTVkdVNmU1kzMUk3SHZ0NmxOZ3F0MlRsbGpLY0JsM29kU2RVd19uaFZTZy1LaUNjaDRIbGl0cXVFVXo1ZGR2OURLVXRLRUY5TDBacjhxSmRxMlEyanZ2bEln
Putting 'intuition' at the center of AI's moral ethics seems deeply problematic. Moral intuitions diverge very highly from time to time and individual to individual; I know /r/askphilosophy loves Enoch's and Huemer's arguments that moral disagreement is minor, but I continue to find those claims somewhat misinformed ...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-04	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBbGlpaTVCMUxRdmVpLUZpMkpNZXpMNmZ3X3NBU3FJd2JJaG9SLVdGR1lycURnZHljbU4ta1FLM0NBRGdMaWNjRmhRNTR3QzRpT0dDMmxJLVgtTVdUemc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCcGQwUjRRN1dqblotaHpHbFFfblpjOTNxZGt3a2xPZWk3RFltSDB5VnNFZkVKZG5NVnNicVR4U1ZrRkt4MTZlMk1MOUpab3htc2o3VVloR2ZNc2RrQndoQUpoTlBWYlNvYWcwMDNoUEVOaU95cjhBc3lsS0NhUlFQa3hqMTlSWUkxLUZuUzhnbU1VampxLXFzcFN1bE1sNy00cGNIeE1vQTJSQXRCRkh1bGNuaU9fYThJMWZpeUNhc3AxTlpmWEEw
>There's a huge difference. Rule utilitarianism is a direct normative framework saying to follow the rules which maximize utility. The first difference is that CEV doesn't say to follow people's current interests, it says to figure out what they would prefer if they were more rational and thought faster and had time to...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-04	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBellVQ2lhM0x4U3lZNG9XTHJsRkF0MmdiRHR5REdqalpBQTU5YUs5OG8zRU13bU4xOWJkc2VLdWpaeGxiWk9NNUdidXhTTGF0ejcya0N2UUZIYkVGT0VWTWlFQXhfYUhiYncyLTlEa29pOFU9	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCM0RmY1l3VW81X3N0eldNTDZVVlVPdVJHZC1kQ215S2s0Y2Z1eG4wa1lVQmxFNm5PUU9McDFoU2NmN2dSblNSeHFLY0Y0RTc3ekRHdjdRRVZBM2ZvckhDMFNXSnNPcm5KRzBvTElwbEFTVUIybTdPbk1NdDdocktRY1RjYVJNS1cxU2FTUUc4Ty1kb24yaFRyMXBVNm5Wd1pTTTYyMUZ4d0xFTks1WE5GQ0RRPQ==
>Are "right values" necessarily limited in a way that conflicts with a "complex web of motivations, reasons, and desires"? It seems to me that even though the Bostrom-MIRI work may be simplistic today (current work is foundational and in its early stages), there's no commitment at all to a 'simple web' of motivations, ...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-04	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBM3hxZlQzMEdGb1NzM0FTRUJ6c01SNUF0djVteUp4OU9GX3ZsUEk0QXBnR2xkdG9FRXRaWEJVUnJacVViT0Z5cFpqOXlDa191YnZLanB5WjVSRnBZWl84RERJOXpiR1VNX0RfU00xRGFLSkU9	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCRWNTLVNwU0xmRUVCRVVlc0NHRGtvc2ppN3B2TXNTM2dQb3NibXEzbTd1aENHbEdiRVpVZGFPY2pxcEtqUVhaMUdYWXpVc0pqWHRaTTRZNEY0M3VGVEJjR2p3WGdEVzNPLXkyN2tlX1RHV1lDOUJIYzhpb0xTNWlJcTFrd0tfUThycjJRSWZVU3h2dXV1LXRFMENZNEJjbWp5N015T3lNN3M0RmVaNmotR3Eyc1R0OTZOT2RBdWVqTG1lVlFaMjNI
>Any thoughts on how this discussion might apply to the sorts of specialized autonomous machines like autonomous cars that are likely to become more prevalent in the coming decades? I don't have any worked out view on this, but from what I've seen of the debates about this particular issue I think you've hit on the wo...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-04	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBc2NvOXRfSXlfLUFNZmZqR0FsbHcyUWlKaEQzX3JXTllScE9jX2NRdnhlUUF4SFdvdUlLXzROM1lPZjlaOHZiVUNtWDktTERrbTJjaHRLTW5xWTNabWdJekFUaC1DZDZkcWxuQ3lkVlQyVk09	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCaEl5OFB0cjgtUWRrVExnVDR6REtaTllKZjgtbUtWWDlUN1RZM0c0RFRjakdfNlQ3Q1BwVjNGRkhlS1JmcUhwZVd6bE53N09GbHJzQllwYUFNbmJxczhEbUJ3YkY2VXdyejBDWko5VkNKWVVWRmJuUjY1d05obFBzbkhtTldneUV0dzhrV0FkRFhsSFkwSkp0emtYMlpHQkhVbHRCUXRPVXFhYUFaMEJKY0o1Yk5LMGEzZFc2Z2RmQmd4U1V6MDZG
>These three points 1) the specification of some state of affairs as 'good', 2) the types of actions which are right in virtue of a causal connection to that state of affairs, and 3) a concern for justice within a utilitarian framework are all playing a part. So when I said that the difference between CEV and rule-util...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-04	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBNlg4cnJQdmVybXlfcTYxXzdtei1iWUtaLXZWZmlNMnZvMlE5OWVZNzhSTEFfZzhMU2dLbEpTOHNDTW5ad185Q3JONVY1cVloRUxSem9HOXZZUkhTLUE9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCajZSWmd3VjJZSDUzYk9wTUVqcl9UMUhkWFNKMlk3WVQwcHZXQ3JCQzZ2OTcwTzRienlYQXJvek8tTjhsMW1pWC1zRlhLNkU2U1BnU1RXc0FyT09NMV9FdlJsN3dYS2ZrXy01VHEzSEdqdmpEMmNkMjBvRG9seUpBbzJiRnNVaHpWRW1xeUNsc29ibld5bE1FZ0VRZVFsOUctc1FadU1VT09XajU3ckFCaEVZPQ==
The idea behind intuitionist approaches is that we can all agree on some examples of praiseworthy actions, and then use that dataset as the template for moral behavior. Of course you can do the same thing with classical ethics. There are many kinds of actions which every philosopher agrees are good or bad, even though...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-04	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBeTdDMDB1ckJHbzA0aUpNSThwTGZyUnM0b1hMb3lOVTVjX1BaTC1udnV4cXNISUJOaEtDOFB4QW9CcDkzUjRXWVBwcjl1dWhXUkhlUU5JQjZmYkxaRUE9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCUGhlZXJTc2psTG94OFdwcHpiQWtMVjczQmhGSmNvUlpkSU42bGdJRTJHOGR3alFMZHVtcXphZ0lxWUJsWmJFb0YzdUNNaGNVUzRuNlQ2YlZsNFZ6alhOeGI4S3dtRXdBOVJESzN5bzN0cWpQSXZsMDdiZjVKbjNTQ0JYbVRYM0ZTeWtva01NNE90eEN3MzQ1X2FIdTU3bWlEZm1XbWx4Q2VtNVFSQ3VzenNuLXpTTWJZMWRuaHpPNE9Oa1NiRVNG
An intuitionist approach does not escape the problem of edge cases. The result would at best be equally as erratic as a human.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-04	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBUGVPaVEwc1JOUV84SHRQRzZmbTZES2dsZ05IejNOYUw3T19pdGRya05nTFJWTHJyM0EyaldmaEhMcmYxSGxUYkJUbDFSeTY0VDU3NEFtdTU2RDB0TGc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCNzREbUQweW04c0d0bmVVV3dLQ0luTllOdTE1OFpyYUROZkFKdVc3bXdCMHlpRzR6ZU9ubjZrY0FrS3RLR2wtblRGVzBOU2RsRDYyTWxTYVRVNWp0YmRGcEU2M1NrZVJCWlo3Q1VrY2UtNVlQOGlpTHMtSk9rQVRPT3lybmJXRjl3U1kzSXRLWndhMkRXZV9KaHE4cGExOUQyU0liWngtaVJycF9vR09BaXJhM0J4b090eGoyVzgwWHgwMzB3cVNR
>Like I said, I don't really see how this relates. CEV is about choosing a moral system. CEV is not about specifying a state of affairs, choosing types of actions, or protecting justice...Of course, technically by finding a good moral system you are achieving a state of affairs, but that's the case for people advocatin...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-04	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBV1FUcmhPdGI0Rm1CdkJHODQ3Q2UyWU90ekxoeExsQk9xR0k4SGpCYzVRWkpROE1tS3B2N0xLcFFrS1N0TXh4VXNRUllkRzROd2pSOUJfX3pNS1NNQ1hhY3hpYjRUcm02M3BBZUQzVGpTaVE9	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCYzA5TXowbVdUX0d4NEVJMkJFZzZvODZXbkhtTEh4VVRjdGliMGVxU3BjY0szZmFPdFFFVEhzMngzMWkydHpldDRESXFPS0xkUWF4eUo3eXBqY0tUZGM4ZGVGYm1TSXktU254dk9YS1Y2S3VEcmc4d0pxWFVNclpzcXRWcVM3ZjdYbjZWaEVESnI1cHoxZUFEaWxkeVV5MTl2Y004S0JycnlWZzFOT3Y3QUlzPQ==
>It's a thin specification of an outcome, but it is a specification of the good outcome: whatever it is that fills out the details of the ideal moral system chosen by the ideal agent(s). It isn't the case that any moral system advocates a good state of affairs. A pure Rawlsian or contractualist account doesn't, for exa...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-04	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBbUc4aWlUZ19nSXFNSzJZWDBWeTRmUldZWVk2eUVZbWNfdEdKR01xdV90emJkOG90ZGxUS0RuMTZTYlVoQnYxX2R3SWdVajBOVUhRT3NJR1V1OFRia0E9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCZUx5OG5RSFhTU0ppZG5COUtWYk4tSE1qWUV4Z0MyS2ZacnZLa3Z6ODBoWHVOaW9kdkFrS1FWM2tFUXJtMkVvN0tXeEdoNktrUjhlV1pUNFpoNlVTTW1tTV9vYTF4QlhCT2ZEZmQ0UjVVN1FRMWJQNnZGQVZGOWpLcGxLWlRud0F1SU8zc2w2bFNSbm1QUDloa0hBYTVQQWxzM1V0MHFPUnliTUI5d3JhamJVPQ==
>I'm not talking about moral systems, I'm talking about approaches to moral epistemology. Then I'm afraid you've lost me, because the part I was responding to in the bit you've quoted here is what begins where you wrote: >Like I said, I don't really see how this relates. CEV is about choosing a moral system. In any ...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-05	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBaUlEbmFnWTVGN2kzWDZKNWl4RlBMVVBva0taalFmSFhlZC04VElJVmxJc2xWVGRKdEdOZjZXY09xNzVuaUxHYTJDY2JiMGFEaFNxTFpkZHV1VFpGRElhUDFUZVE2TWlrelJBT0YtcWFkWmc9	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCNnhBV1lPcGlyenQ5LTN5UEJVZUl2OEhfZlIwOVhTS1hxaG43SjhIVmpkYng5U1BlVm5QTWd4WFZkcG1qdGFJTWQ4YVhLUmRhSGl3cUxrb3JiZkYzU01aaDRQbjNab1JLVU1BWmNMY0pJSER6eDMwcXhsV0pzN0d1VnNrOGFSTG9CYlEydXdCcnhfTUd5aTExSEN4SjIzZHVEeGpObklCX1h2OEQ2S3ZicFhRPQ==
>>Why think metaethics has anything to do with it? >Because we are discussing possibilities of updating and changing our moral beliefs. CEV is one such approach, and the criticisms you are giving here are equally applicable to all methods of updating and changing moral beliefs. >>I'm arguing against the very idea of ...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-05	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBd1BYd1hlTWdEejk3Sjg4Um5pSkctSERtOXhGSzRuWVVEQXc5dzlweF9NSHBFd1dIdE4tV3NKUUlHWGl2OXB5RzVBY2E4VmhpRExWSng0RFoteFRHd0JveDFxeG1rU0YwLXl3V0hTMWhJT2s9	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCenJsVXc0c091ZHl4UUxMYjRGSGlpMjU1R19qakE5MjEwTS1tLTRfRGgxbmZFR0tzR3IzeElWQ1NYWFRGc0ZJbTJTU2xnaXB2aVhCQVNVOUEtMl9DTDVpbE9lS2k4eklBYlU4UGR2cGRiSExlRzJqYWg3VTBLZGNMbHdOMUNOcWE1ZUIwd3IwV3VkaTNxZnJ0M29CN0kxeU4yYk1MZDZrdGRIRGk3Z1V3UXdJPQ==
> Then I'm afraid you've lost me, because the part I was responding to in the bit you've quoted here is what begins where you wrote: Choosing a moral system is a practice of moral epistemology. >Firstly, I'm okay with this because I already have serious doubts about moral systems as such That doesn't show that anyon...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-05	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBMFlCSDFDM05hYjZ4VTItVHZlV3pMcTZuR1ctdGVaWEFmZUlfQWRQaDBrdVE2N2t1TmVXZjhHdEhqdk5yQ0pXcFFvWDBKbjBXOW1JYm5sdlJFYmN6Z0E9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCWHJmVDRzWmFMZ2NzZ3pubTd0cDZKb01NaXBrYW9yVW1KRWlzUFZublgzelpPTS16UVR6aFZBZEJNc0FlVkVHcmZmaUNlaTRhVFVIQlRJWHliU3F2LUp2ZUpkR1c4d3NsamJoNzRSVTBFM2hhZUdTeVU5Q3JHdFRvZzNUVkRRaXNIWlNJZFd4SHhxRnNsWTJrdTkycmxxWjBUSFJzbmNRV2xHeFJ4b2l6eDBzPQ==
Most of these are points I've either addressed already or have been interpreted out of context in the quote-salad above. Since we've reached that level of tedium, complete with the temptation to abandon charity, we'll need to come up with another format as I don't have the time to devote to line-by-line responses at th...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-05	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBLTRTbzdlNFBUUlljYVdvbUZ3eEVUWlZCczJ1WDBrN3ZLYkhEVVpJNkdTUXBtb21hZXB2RndUQmh3YlJ0SHE2Yy1kR0toeUhQUjhGZ05LQzdpQ0E3WWtlcFo0dm9CTVM3Z09uTGVSeFR2RkU9	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCcU9xeVRqWXJJMmM2Q0J1OFR6YWptbFVmam9VTnBtU19McE5zQUxQOHRsNTBhZFJRdVhnWGg2MGl3Vk5JSTZHUmFfb3ZXZ3ROSDY2dXpNSjdRSWNBQ2lPWkNlaVZfZFAza2xsbWRnb0lYQk1qcU51MjRDclFUdnFtOGN0YjhDTV9QM2NVZmJOMWxlQkVaaEhzMzhyTXAwS1VOY2cxX1ZkZDVOeVJVY3MxMkJNPQ==
If you want a cleaner discussion you could restate your ideas in more concise terms with clearer conclusions, probably in a separate thread, because I still don't see what your main idea is and therefore don't have anything to say except for responding to your individual points.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-05	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBYkk4aFpTUnlZcS1MYm96NmItSDM3RlJNajhaSVpKdTF6VFZJSmh0LVlDeUVDb3ptTGJScGZHd0Zhamx6VFVqeEdHVnd3SDZRM2lmN1Rpcm1ycVM3RXc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCQWhqT19QSVN2QlRMdTBMcGNQeGdQbndISGZrMWNwbDd5M1FLams4bGs4ZmZsWWxrODdndFFBUnVLM3dLN2RoWEJScHNYWGUyVVo4ODhOTDhwcWZNbHRSX29HUndiZUVNZy1pYnd0b1FDd3ZtekVoanBGTFBSZEltZkh1Vzl0b0NhZHdOWXdFaldOTlFaQy1kbzVaZUxncVUtUDRIY2lFZFBzak5HYmxheFZZPQ==
Whether or not we can control these entities is a technical issue, which maybe /r/controlproblem can discuss. Or do you mean to ask what we can do to make ems and biointelligences ethical? I'd say there's definitely a big opportunity for us to select morally strong people as templates for those kinds of agents.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-07	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBcGZ3OFdKWXJEZ2FVNmFVdE1Zcmo0SFpOMzNXTUkzbzFoTnV4bVJwQmszZDdjUXVnSFNfdS1NbFB6eEhrQ3BrVF80Q2ZuVlAtZ0wzd25LM0pObkE3OUE9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCV0tIdzZ1UzNjc1RGODdveko5bHp3dTVaRExjMW9IenAzYTRDV184M3FESnd3QXkwQ2xfSFg4c2hlS0NkT09YOEt2eVMxYTlnQzVqczJ2a2NFaUVmcXdCeVNEaDNRV28taUVyeFdibEFUeDkyTnZlTW0yUmhPQ1ZFeUhIeVN2NWV5cU53c0JWWXlkNHR1SzhiTkVPY3RySHpjVnBpUDd2VGJHU1BPcGVHcDVkbnY2ZHZ3Xzh6NUVYQ3kyTEs4dHhs
I suppose my question is whether there are solutions other than the control problem. Any thoughts on how you'd select a morally strong person? For example, how would you select the first hundred people to have their minds uploaded?	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-07	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBQjEyaWRZYW54Um9EZlhyamZGYWRPbEdtMmZpWWRJMmt4MW9rWmhGaEFEQ0VOaGIzdUt6dUlCbnZMb0RBc2VrQkEtUWJJOUoxQ2M0dlp5TEhqMm1hclE9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCNFNvRklGWWIzNzFDX2JTdkRKT0RiX1F5Yl9zdU1ZUnBWQzd0dTlQeHBOTE92YktUb1g2cmJIWjFjWTVWZjA1ekdsc0NHRV9YcVkyQ0RUb2RrR213YnRLNWNwZFVQLWI3YkJvRGhfdXBOUXR4bHgtc2Y4ckZidWVFZGlzQkhjUVdtMkpDTkdDemdxdDExQWJ0LU5tSEZ1ODlOMEJiSEMwSW82T3pTZEZTamNHUEJDemIwQk5UdEtsODZOQ3dUVFJ0
>I suppose my question is whether there are solutions other than the control problem. Now I'm doubly confused. The control problem is a problem, not a solution... >Any thoughts on how you'd select a morally strong person? For example, how would you select the first hundred people to have their minds uploaded? Yeah, ...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-07	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBTE5qOWszZGcwMkxTbHlWTW5JaHJfMEFfRFNCWmZSUFJXejNRY2FtVUR6amtzYjI2aXQwWHNndkY3OUROMElpNGxkdXczdi1VN3EybmR3amppZWxabWc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCUzdkOURnTV8zSzNoV1FkNndNcXpPRXdUX2lqNXIyTmtNUGRrMWxKcW5ZYzRtOUJIbThkczRtcGl6MkZDUlF6T3BlWjQycUxRdGl0aU1iVmlaQk1OaTZ2SzJmQlQ5dDNQRk45WTlBc3JlOTRuSlJEakNGVHZZYjFjR0hja2xsdkpZRkNseEh2bkRsS1FTZ3F2VU5HVGlRQkVNZ1ltQldxYS10VzV5SUw3SGtpZERudkdocnczZjRJUU9yVm5BWkRS
> > I suppose my question is whether there are solutions other than the control problem. > Now I'm doubly confused. The control problem is a problem, not a solution... Sorry, would have been clearer for me to say the following: If the enhanced-human path to superintelligence comes first, might we solve the problem o...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-07	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBWFAzZGQ1X2NWRWNBODJiRDJMdDZSR19YUW5rc1pnbl80SEJJNU01ZUhSd042WkgyRGxwVjhHbk0xeHM2QlA3VHFqc21ST1FXdEhaSDJScDJBVVpBQXc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCYjc5T1hCMmxXQnVoRDRiUVNjbWtZdlROb1V1R1lxV1RTYnBHOGRKZ3A4U01vV2tHZGlVT1ZxOThLVk02d19Fb0loN2MtUzZEck9rckNLX0FsbHQ1bDRiUTY1WkxOemtRdjNWZjRuclB5QlZBbFdmbTBQam9zUXZHcVZpbkRCZ2s4SkU0SU0wRU1CZmVRZmdleWlGdFR4dDZHRnlESUM3U3ZnU0RpbHl4R0xkNVExOGxJZEdQNGtJYnc3WWNvTHFl
Well if you had a singleton formed by biological superintelligence, then of course you could prevent AI control problems from appearing. That's not the same thing as an em or an augmented human however.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-08	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBUGhCWUhZZmlsN2daWWJBX1RhRVRYM21reGVaRWZudVBHYWkzUHZVZXh1Qmg3eXNFRFJHUzhZa2dOenhKVl8tNk10akNFXzVyN2xESFRpSHdvelgxUlE9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCYmdUcjZUQm05cjIxaXdSMWpyeWo1VlpELUoxSGYycmF6ajc1eU9oRkNycUZMcW0tcGFFc0R2UmhUdGVRNjRVTFl3cWdxaVJWR2d5M3ZyVGx5V21uSnB5ZDkyVmpmQTVTSjV6QVdtY0h2YkNUMzl0RVhMZ2ZyWkhyRFNzV1NQV0pRNkNQVEZfbkh2cHlEVU1kMmFPWGNycDI3QzVwLVNTNXktSm9vZ1ZRQzhfM2FzZ1BSLXROWGwzMGpjWXZ5NjV4
The Peter Singer in the article is not same as the philosopher Peter Singer, he's an American political scientist.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-08	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBT09xWDVicGw2WV9HdVFMQ3I1ajZDTmJWcHJFQVRGT3ZZMzFqTlNxc3I4X3J1Z2VzVlpFTFpQX3NObl9NdmJUVkpwSVhtdDVKdDFiVHAxWnA4NG8yYmc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCTGk2by1NQUFSZ19vd1RKRDR4ZVRWYWNJOG5Za1RWQ3ducWU0c0NBV1FnUWxjZG0tV1dORE5UWHNsNmpzWW9tMW1sUUtXckdzVm1pOXI5Y0dfR0hyVUNYUWJlSFJDSUNJSTltWGswMms0VllHUEVzR3lVNVhzVlFyYTVhOHQ2S1B4WVl6SkFMamtHdEx2S0ZDNXpobTV2Unhnd3UzbUtucDlMaW14b1ZnNExjcmFPQ0RJcVVNMXdnR1g1Y010WjdIeHVQYmNEdXlaLWJHUzNYQmJnanF6UT09
>These robots aren’t autonomous, Singer emphasized – the Marcbot “is like a toy truck with a sensor and camera mount they’d use to drive up to a checkpoint”. Not really any more AI than the predator drones they've been using to blow up people in the Middle East. This robot was not acting autonomously, so it was just a...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-09	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBcmtKQ3paSi0wSk02dURqelJBZlZBSmpPbUJuSktJd0I4aUJ1Qms0YkRubWlPM3owQXFYSGhCZVAwaDNQNlhpVzN4anRWMFotS3ZjRHA1UXM3a3N5empGQ01UT3o4anhXOGlhNHg1SkxRNkk9	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCeGVPOWZrQjB0a1VSckNqMnhqX3ZEek5SZzRmeUxsUHFzR2FKM2trTkxuU2NMUmVqOXphNVFLSFpibWkxQUN1WUkwQ3lTMzNMbEdkandrVUJsOGs0VlIwajB3OFA0czVYcUotSjZVNHN0NUVWRFFTSkNtZjdGZ0poWnpsOWdMT2IyeXQ0Q05zTnNpY1BmQVB5WW54czZ2dUlWZng2YmE5dko2cElwMUFtT1pRZnNUT1c1UHQ1VXFUV1Zzc0Q4WG9ISVRLVTJiR2xBcVZLSURGc21xNmVBdz09
This conference will have an impressive lineup including David Chalmers, Nick Bostrom, Peter Railton, Francesca Rossi, Stuart Russell, Max Tegmark, Wendell Wallach, Sam Harris, Eliezer Yudkowsky, and others.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-15	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBNmlGM09wV19XTlZlU2ZUYU5KZDh6cGVnSVR2REU1WG42RG9yTktreC05LVo3UkZsSF9LU2t3bFZQTEZBTEp4Q0k1ekJRS0w2eEVya0FpSUIxSGlxQUE9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCN3daa1JVaWpkdXJ2VURzUzFrQzJZcm50T21fd3FQNGlkWlhxMzdMQXFuRm5xSzhfX1hRSzd4UlRSUjRzcWdtN1VseGxmOGt2YUFMeDZIX3p5N3dCeUZXa0lIc2dub0ZsYjlWYVFKZmhiUTlmSGxTOG1iNEItSmlkV2c5cW1peU05cHhxekJaMFlYM2Z3cHd3MVpRaTZVTGRfeElNa2h2WlZvS0Y2a3RKNDRLVFo4V3A1aG8xR3dFN3E0dTQwU1lPaTY1bTVMbmR2VFYyR2haeklGaEt3QT09
I get that "morality" might not be the best way to describe what the Bostrom-MIRI crew are reaching towards. But it's not a matter of them trying to make moral machines and getting it wrong. What they want is to make sure the machines don't do things they won't like. If that happens to involve making moral machines...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-17	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBZ29sX3hwZHhmSTFqTzQ4RzVKdUlGeTdJRTJPaG5PVExtaWlTMGFzTGp4enVoMnRwZXNaNUZ0Tzd6a19MVjNVdVhHeHVrQXpGUVlORnltS3BIcVlkZ0M3b1hicDJ1ZFE0dlZtZndZeW5WQlk9	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCZmpHOGlITWdXcjdFY01zdUhuZzU2ZGNHdkVTOVh4T1I1VjhERm1OQ1YwYkFWRGR2VmJpR09aZk9WZGhiNzlPYXlLQmIzaHRNdjNNaDZqRHV2YWJiQlZkajJZYmpFeGQ1NFFxMmJRTDhOenBwY05wYlZfTDI4dUEwRm51NEp6RXpCd1I5WlpYMjNmenpBdzNWakdrbXBZWFJDSE1GSE44bHQzTU45UFhLS2t4MzlTeXA4QXNDaThlY1FLZUczVGtO
> If the goal of AI personhood is to encourage more ambitious investments in AI, then the answer to these questions is probably “yes.” Is this really one of the motivations for AI personhood? Not a rhetorical question, I haven't heard that justification before and I'm curious how popular it is. It seems to me that t...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-22	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBbzk3QU9Xb1FoSmdzRWFBemZZZnh0ZlI0OC1TbFE4d1gzMGcxa2RzME91UUpLU0VFbUd5ZzdqVk5jazJYQkN2MkNwYVctRWJvS3ZyV1lrM1BQaEZ3WGc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCSHk0YnhzYVlBckszTDZieFdCaDRDMnF6NGZSYkc5b3NvSkVrbFBmTmVZdTNvMWt2OWZUMUstekxzYXBnWDBXQW1CVnFET2d3dC1LS0pwR0xjZmZhdlFINUNiUzZsZG94MGZ5dHVxNWxYQkpxazU3NjdJOHZLb0xpLUNKcFNFMGxJRmJfZzhac3VFdVB5dTVaWkVhM3U3VVBQS2MzWVlQRlhfVmYwN05rdkZaUzdKSjhVa0FrTVIyOVdVYlBTMjIySDl3RlFCQl9oM25KX0ZOZnpTZC0wdz09
All rights...most importantly, of course, the right to life.	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-23	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBMG9QV2VmTzhSRHZVRVN5QkUxMHVtbmJjTlh2VmxNV3F5d0FBWGNiX0pUQXJUVW5VSHI2OU9Md1dwMXF5eFJKc19HNzJHZW1mM1lKZjcyREFjcUduZkE9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCbTZDNFBMTjNDVEs3OGZoQVNvN0NYek8waEpVdFEwN0hkUl9ESV9MRTZxbkQzMTJtS2tLRkxQWjF2aDVIVmhWcEV6eHpYMjludWFXUmt2ZWkwQ1Qzbnd6RmVqc09kYUoxRWl3cGFSRXJrZDF6N0RNOXNOaG05TjJuekNzbjJOT3RmNDE3Nk5kWjNDZXJVQUdVbF84aEpFQmgtY0xYX2xmQV9DZVZnRFhYX3hTeUJWNzczS1h5M0lEcC1WZ0NfUHhzOF9LMVZzZkhjNVZqeTdLM3ZPRk9ZZz09
Link changed after spelling correction (thanks to yours truly): https://wp.nyu.edu/consciousness/ethics-of-artificial-intelligence/	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-07-29	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBcW5xYVJuWkhwUVFqY3Fyc0pBa3RlUmRZQlJObUFhUU05aldqdWtGUTBDZ0hYTlVHUDEzU29ZYlhJX1hPSGxsZkctb1V5ekNHVHR0ZzFOZGVQM09xU0E9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCTEdvdUpnTjAybzduREVHMzBMX0t6NVpmaTFuZlJPaXV3cUtGTVpuVXRwWTNucURqQlQyRHpPdDlSY0JuRklRZk9Pb28zZF9NYmVWWGV4em9BNHl0S05TeFVvQlJTUThhMGhqVUR0eXh3YUhrNWVEeXVBR3FIeEw5TXIxMzduR3NEMWxTSFg0TXZZMUc0b2FvUDFHVUVfZE15VkxFdUE5Qk1HTXlfQmlNSm8xWVNPQ09MQWdPQUtLZ3NJV0wzLUllWkhHdTNxZmowNnVveXpWVkpqSUlLUT09
Hmm... I answered a similar question over at quora: > At what point does an AI become intelligent enough to warrant "human rights"? My answer: > Zero. > Artificial intelligence is a non-biological creation of humans. > It therefore has as many human rights as a pair of scissors. I really don't understand what's...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-08-03	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBeGFpVWN4MmppQmhMckJNNnAzX2RRWTJtQ0t0N3MtbmgxeTNHT1BwdTFXNXpQeUJHV2lIMzRKb0pZV2pfWWhOUHM5UUdIbVZRd3VhZU0xNVdQekp3bkE9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCQzkxblRmNmtSektsc2Zqd19rU1lBQTR5NGZTMEhCWVJEQjRwWHpSbGlPNjJNREhPZldSM3ozMEZ0dFBvdE41ZWxENmkxU1NSZEpSaVpHU0xpQW1YckFrRGdMeVZxSGJ4TTZQUnI5cmRvTjRDMGpJbnhrU20yclJ4U19PWEVKNnZ4Z3VualJ2WXpQcnkzWWxxQUZ1b0ctcjhKWlNSeFdWMHB5WHNrbEZvQmxMS0JuUGMwN2FnOHBUVy1mVTREVTNXWjhxbHdOZ2hMVFpYSEF1OWp1YnpuQT09
Well, how does >It therefore has as many human rights as a pair of scissors follow from >Artificial intelligence is a non-biological creation of humans. ?	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-08-03	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBTkFubDltRVo2TzRDajRQNTFFTXFGV3NDdUlneElEM1ZDbFFNdXlvdTl5bDZmdFpMSlIxZFRnUXJaQnE5aHpaVm41Ui1tdWp5ZTdmaFczUFBKNFR5SFE9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCU2F1b01QemJPUjVjX2RYcHN4Z3d6ZVRqbi1GckFnSll5U2RJS29xeElMaE9zMzFJT1poVDRlX3hsUFVCRUdmbjd1eGozWUQzSEJ1TE1vSGR5REQ3OGdqVUJHUnM4cExTckJaeHoxSzJZTVpQVzRlWGRmQkJQV2c1OFBOM18tUG1MS0M1Szk5RE9FY1kwTVpiMUQ2QUYwNEtqUDBQVjNMYzlvdkhIX3d0MjM4a0paaElyaDRTZUZnOGpORFlzajRaZnZJbGp0WnFnM2VHeFlQMzVXUy1Tdz09
Hi Umami. What I'm saying is that because AI is not a human, it will never have (a) human rights and (b) a need for them regardless of how "human-like" it becomes. My computer, for example, is a non-biological creation of humans. It therefore has no human rights. It additionally has no desire for them. I, I... I don...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-08-03	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBQWNMWHRmYVhrMllrcFdIekw0VzZmQkJqSlFvWnUyNzRVN1hUckpEM1R0S0FFd05fTENMWDRmR0hJVy1ENENMV0JjR2xnNmd0Z0xDREtZYlppUHZXZXc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCY2l4aTJYcjd2bEdyTGF4YUpFOXpQUElZc3dPN0JZbVpqS3lobjRxNEdwQ0N4RnZsTUxLR21JNFdXWlJlMmktUk54b0JPTXZoOVhFc1lEUXhmUkNuSGxoRTc5dVZDa2l3M1hrZlM5RF9pQ1lCSzVnbjRJSGhsZ0xmTDFlckFJSU9jUFRHY0tjQ083dGNVdzZVZTVWOWcta3hMVnFtb0MxWTkyblkyNUNUd25LVXRxSl9leVlKcFhQcU9wQmI1ZXA3dmdVaXZldzctQ05ndGpXYlNla0Vidz09
>I, I... I don't know what else to say. Well, there's a whole host of issues that you could flesh out. Why does being "non-biological" matter? Do humans matter simply in virtue of the fact that they are biological? Isn't it irrelevant because many biological organisms don't matter morally, and some of those that do ma...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-08-03	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBajNIQ0RZanN0REY3WEwxSE1nZ1JDQUZEY0hGQVZhczRPcWlEVkQxNHlnaG91NnhIUHdvempFTjNXeVN0ZWtfWFU4QzhNeUZBOGZqV0lVWjJ6cEFLN1E9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCSENhZ3RwbC0xYjlhNnp4ZHNWcWN2cDQzMi05cWhKRURXQVQzc0NmTkNxUFltM2dlMHhYYTBGMjV2SldydVNNV2ZEakRQaThGX18wOHNVdzVqTXhDczBRZlpUUkJpQS1rdmtQRFlJS0RqcFVlVTdXSk9OLXpVSXBNU1hwX1RWUmo5OGU0VjU1ZU1KRkNqQzZicVhQLVZ5U2YzbjZMV2hBWENOQWtDMEtnRkhqMXJ5VzNTSDhyNjdrYlhJaWhDOFFMNjRDRHl6RlBVZC0zZTJ0TEJtRHlBZz09
Listen Umami, inanimate objects do not need the things that living entities need (food, shelter, water). So they will never have the desire to demand them when they're not available (especially via, "rights"). My box of envelopes, for example, will never, ever, ever demand rights to anything in or outside of my h...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-08-03	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBaTk5bXItaDJOd1BtTW4zYlBmTHNvSVI4M1Vtb0RTRGJWYTZ3bm1ISWJlRVhYRFEzNzFJXzR5ZEFLRmh4clRFVEgxSVBOX2hGUUJORTY2RFdYazhxTHc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCV1lCay1mV1R4TkxBU0R4SVU3c2VVOTlCTU01Xy04WUZ6MGJBWlp0VG5RNWVXSXF1dndiZkZDMWppaGtDRW8yLUtuOTM4eFkxSlgya1N4V3dySWM0RjVLcnBzOWFWQmx4V2U3TW92UENRU1VtT0czYk02SnRuTnVaQmUzZGx4N2F4SHNIdzFMbWhKUlZHZEVtd0tHbmlEbWNfMlN1eVA5WW45NHBVR3g3eEdTTThvOUZXWFFnekY5WU9XeVZ6Z3ZmMF9xbXE2Vzc4MmdUNkRlOEdsYmdTdz09
>My box of envelopes, for example, will never, ever, ever demand rights to anything in or outside of my home. Nor will my speakers, area rug, or fireplace. Not even my mobile phone! Right, but we're not talking about boxes of envelopes, or speakers, or area rugs, or fireplaces. We're talking about sophisticated artif...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-08-03	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBNURpbUQyeFk2Y0RJekRIYndNOHFyM0wtOVNlM3prUU10akNyWWE5NUlieTlOZjFESWx6amtQSkExUVVsWE5xYllkc255Z2pEbjN5UzFnWThLeE9uaVE9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCd2RKSkF3TWxVNVNNQTd0cFd6TXNld01reWt1d2hQWnVQWmN2TjgxZG1Ydk5mQXRQUjlHbVRWVC05NlA0VnpXTlotRDJ5aXR2SlFra3lNcnRrUC1fTm9jbzNteXdyME9XNndDWWJjYlJaczhMZDFJLWQzOG1kN3Z5QVhJLVhOUHFzYlZRVThLMGhneWhzM25UWUoxTERqX09DZHdfXzV3UVJfMG9CQXdHLWk5T2dCTkRKRHNPZ1pPOTN6Y1dkM1ZrZktObkFUZFg2MDZqc1BRVm5MOU0ydz09
Okay Umami. Can you give me an example situation in which a super AI agent would need or want rights to something? If you can convince me that could actually be a plausible scenario, maybe I'll hang in there. Maybe you'll open my eyes to something. If you feel so inclined to do so, would you also describe that scenar...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-08-03	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBWXptT0k2OW9DVjM0Ql9pdXFnYnNBMmtERG1CWld2MFVTN0xkMDJzRFFLVGwxa3dRYlpwaTN6TXo2ZzVGN2lNMFBiVThGM05qZWlKaW4xbmFqMHlxT3c9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCd3JRVTUwZHBDZlRuWWJVYzZyMTdHRFpGdXJuNldrR1FHalU0ZjJNMGF2SW1ybzI5eXZzTmtWVG8ydFJqTmRKTHdPUGJVWlRCenhQSEwxZ0swbzVaTnNMZEJrZ0xnZnZOUW9MZXpfbEh4RlZCY3JBLVVIcEFoQVZZdlFBT0Y5a05IcEFfOThSUUNQeEcwc1paRkFValltbC1RVDJRalpHVDhuYThOLU5PaU1adFJBeVN0NXdnUG1CUlBBSWpfeVFaMzVEUFlwVTV2X21XZlZZVkgybEp4Zz09
> Can you give me an example situation in which a super AI agent would need or want rights to something? What if it's an agent used for business purposes and is conducting its own transactions? In that case, shouldn't it have protection against fraudulent practices and scams? If it's an embodied agent, like an autono...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-08-03	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBN0dIS2pVc0ljMC1PNTRzRTlITHZKX19mUjlUdGI4ajV1QmhlSXk5RVhiNWNQWVJPWFpqVkVjQ1ZGYkVGS0F0cFYtaVVfTEtHWFZUWGwyNDFTSGFsb1E9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCN0lBT05uYXY0Q21NeEhIMk92SVRGUWQ4TC1TVHBxRHdDOUtmSnNodDFGYURMckFIdWljeEp2ZjhVaHQ1LVhSNzdBeE1UdHdfN1E5LXY5RlhKTmlDVVhhXy0wTzN0X3pSeFFCUVlJSEhqaG9YcUU0SERDMUN1YmI3ZGF6UkdjNTVCQ0Z1MG5MRVNydEZIb0lzcFJoQV9iNjVvdk5mb2w5dDctbV82RjVHZEVMZlUza0pDRWlnTDdrd1FlYmFfWl9RRUc0bzZsWFh4bmUyU3hrSWdEeV9UQT09
> What if it's an agent used for business purposes and is conducting its own transactions? In that case, shouldn't it have protection against fraudulent practices and scams? If it's an embodied agent, like an autonomous vehicle, shouldn't it have assurances against being willfully damaged, destroyed or neglected? Um....	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-08-03	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBb1hGcHBiZ2w0YWdhMmQza3lYYUtSRnhWTmo5Y1B1RXpqT0EzazhPTEZtOVdkQkFmd3ZBNl9jbVFsbkNiTEQ0R2JyVE9lQ1VyOTNJdmJ1Y1pHbjZkNGc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCRUU3X0N2NmxNU0NkSlB4TFZRUm51blNtTmVtZW0tWTlzdE5vS2k0Ml9EaVBHMWxYQVQ4WHJwTW9LSHA0Y1RvTy1jaTU1NmNFS0pPMkpDTnBpNjJSSEtubzQyVTVOSWlkYm01SWtCV2J6Um1Wb29ZWmRkLUk5aUlkM3V1VjczbG4tNXIxNy1taEZvbDlOMmVueWRPbm9qekJDTWtFeTFMOW5OQ0xnTnFMblBJdlp2dkdOQ2VVaGN4dTFEQi1UU25GT2dONml2N0d3dldtZ1dLMU1XcWFBdz09
>Um... those aren't rights. Just what the heck are we talking about here, Umami?! A right is "an abstract idea of that which is due to a person or governmental body by law or tradition or nature." (WordWeb Pro) The article mentioned the financial and legal rights of corporations as examples, so those would be some of ...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-08-03	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBcm5hYnBVVXNTRng5bmtRZWU4WThwUHRWYWJncWhMZjk1UzE4WkZ5NjhjUnF2TG9NbHJpR1k0ZWRsTTdET0c4bW1LSkRuZGMzRERPUlUwUFh1YXJBeVE9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCYWJBTFd5THkxNXlFb0VOTnUwRkF2UmxTV2U3aWYySlJhdkxxdHpzdFRQYmtJWjh0NmtsRTNua1lHQ0ZIT3dQR0Y0Uy1lT2tlWHVMUmRzOXNWWDlLNWYxS25udGhNNDF1bTV4aTYzV2Utc010V191dm9OQ3NtUnlCVS1KWlZ3aUE2LUloRlhfRnh6dWVFQjJWVWJsdzhMaTlURzM1WXQ3RlRJcV9yNHltazBDdWZCRTNUTl9BcVBKS2FYVk9ENm95dzNlY0ZVaThFTjlMc2tFSTcxbmk5QT09
> What's your view on consciousness? Are you an epiphenomenalist? My view on consciousness, as far as AI is concerned, is that it's a necessary component (assuming consciousness is nothing more than awareness of self and situation). But no, I'm not an epiphenomenalist. The human mind and body is a terribly complex t...	r/aiethics	comment	r/AIethics	2016-08-04	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJBV2o2Ym9kZWpTWWoyWlFoYW80TGI1OGM2SmR6R2Jfa0gwUkJPeEs0dHZfZVMwYkRYYTUxaDFNRnU5dFZaZ0x1akF6bnhlMGNtYnpKRld0UGdENjBzbmc9PQ==	Z0FBQUFBQm9IVGJCakFiVnRCZ183MWpfazNQaEtOMUgydmFxR1J2MG5LVGJXNWhyR3NwU0lhd0JNc1FLR2hmWWhCMWdTZ0xFa05DX2VmVldrblVKamQ2NjFOLTdiVWN3OHhvNUdKWnpJeHN6Q0FXQmFQZFo0dVhyVHBueXpySE0zWjQwbmVRTUtlSV93TTlXNjlacENfUXpuWDdXLUtiQVNxcDUwaTN0LXNwTWlyOGI5WGVoSjZiNmJFQmZJVHJpdjlEcDZkbkItQzRnT3FyVGpTa2J0c2JGS3Y4LVg3ejVQdz09

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Bittensor Subnet 13 Reddit Dataset

Data-universe: The finest collection of social media data the web has to offer

Miner Data Compliance Agreement

In uploading this dataset, I am agreeing to the Macrocosmos Miner Data Compliance Policy.

Dataset Summary

This dataset is part of the Bittensor Subnet 13 decentralized network, containing preprocessed Reddit data. The data is continuously updated by network miners, providing a real-time stream of Reddit content for various analytical and machine learning tasks. For more information about the dataset, please visit the official repository.

Supported Tasks

The versatility of this dataset allows researchers and data scientists to explore various aspects of social media dynamics and develop innovative applications. Users are encouraged to leverage this data creatively for their specific research or business needs. For example:

Sentiment Analysis
Topic Modeling
Community Analysis
Content Categorization

Languages

Primary language: Datasets are mostly English, but can be multilingual due to decentralized ways of creation.

Dataset Structure

Data Instances

Each instance represents a single Reddit post or comment with the following fields:

Data Fields

text (string): The main content of the Reddit post or comment.
label (string): Sentiment or topic category of the content.
dataType (string): Indicates whether the entry is a post or a comment.
communityName (string): The name of the subreddit where the content was posted.
datetime (string): The date when the content was posted or commented.
username_encoded (string): An encoded version of the username to maintain user privacy.
url_encoded (string): An encoded version of any URLs included in the content.

Data Splits

This dataset is continuously updated and does not have fixed splits. Users should create their own splits based on their requirements and the data's timestamp.

Dataset Creation

Source Data

Data is collected from public posts and comments on Reddit, adhering to the platform's terms of service and API usage guidelines.

Personal and Sensitive Information

All usernames and URLs are encoded to protect user privacy. The dataset does not intentionally include personal or sensitive information.

Considerations for Using the Data

Social Impact and Biases

Users should be aware of potential biases inherent in Reddit data, including demographic and content biases. This dataset reflects the content and opinions expressed on Reddit and should not be considered a representative sample of the general population.

Limitations

Data quality may vary due to the nature of media sources.
The dataset may contain noise, spam, or irrelevant content typical of social media platforms.
Temporal biases may exist due to real-time collection methods.
The dataset is limited to public subreddits and does not include private or restricted communities.

Additional Information

Licensing Information

The dataset is released under the MIT license. The use of this dataset is also subject to Reddit Terms of Use.

Citation Information

If you use this dataset in your research, please cite it as follows:

@misc{James0962025datauniversereddit_dataset_127,
        title={The Data Universe Datasets: The finest collection of social media data the web has to offer},
        author={James096},
        year={2025},
        url={https://huggingface.co/datasets/James096/reddit_dataset_127},
        }

Contributions

To report issues or contribute to the dataset, please contact the miner or use the Bittensor Subnet 13 governance mechanisms.

Dataset Statistics

[This section is automatically updated]

Total Instances: 10915360
Date Range: 2012-06-21T00:00:00Z to 2025-06-03T00:00:00Z
Last Updated: 2025-06-03T16:18:20Z

Data Distribution

Posts: 3.45%
Comments: 96.55%

Top 10 Subreddits

For full statistics, please refer to the stats.json file in the repository.

Rank	Topic	Total Count	Percentage
1	r/AskReddit	152709	1.40%
2	r/politics	136506	1.25%
3	r/AITAH	132615	1.21%
4	r/mildlyinfuriating	92530	0.85%
5	r/AmItheAsshole	90197	0.83%
6	r/AmIOverreacting	84806	0.78%
7	r/NoStupidQuestions	84652	0.78%
8	r/nba	84276	0.77%
9	r/wallstreetbets	77760	0.71%
10	r/teenagers	74272	0.68%

Update History

Date	New Instances	Total Instances
2025-05-08T22:57:09Z	36948	36948
2025-05-10T03:39:39Z	34434	71382
2025-05-10T21:17:24Z	86590	157972
2025-05-11T17:07:08Z	547082	705054
2025-05-12T11:25:53Z	667301	1372355
2025-05-13T05:28:33Z	826594	2198949
2025-05-14T10:10:22Z	8411	2207360
2025-05-14T13:32:14Z	20223	2227583
2025-05-14T18:53:53Z	19763	2247346
2025-05-15T10:45:33Z	36654	2284000
2025-05-15T13:16:12Z	62706	2346706
2025-05-15T15:00:31Z	56121	2402827
2025-05-15T16:30:17Z	51510	2454337
2025-05-15T20:29:03Z	3551	2457888
2025-05-15T22:38:15Z	82539	2540427
2025-05-16T15:58:54Z	1307817	3848244
2025-05-17T10:01:57Z	1305467	5153711
2025-05-18T03:29:24Z	442993	5596704
2025-05-18T21:29:51Z	536473	6133177
2025-05-19T15:32:29Z	881295	7014472
2025-05-20T09:35:04Z	970121	7984593
2025-05-21T03:03:49Z	772190	8756783
2025-05-21T21:32:01Z	382597	9139380
2025-05-22T15:17:01Z	760318	9899698
2025-06-01T13:29:42Z	291158	10190856
2025-06-02T12:26:27Z	28205	10219061
2025-06-02T22:08:58Z	31304	10250365
2025-06-03T16:18:20Z	664995	10915360

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Repository:

James096/reddit_dataset_127

Subnet:

Bittensor Subnet 13

Miner Hotkey:

5D2KKAGcf1bHnT71v5jsw9TJBmQto5PhYKRSPcJDhk8gqSXj

Number of rows:

7,013,352

Estimated number of rows:

9,832,237

Total file size:

6.17 GB