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Finally. Equitable moderation via artificial intelligence. No more bullying by the Eugene Progressive majority. I like it already and look forward to friendly discussions.
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Can they just things alone? Seriously. Interstate Lanes, Jimmy Mak's and now the food cart pods too.... SMH. Why are they building more unaffordable housing for people from California!?
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Well, its great to fill up a tank for $20, but those hoping to reduce gas consumption may not be so happy.
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Is there a way to see recent replies to your comments other than going to each article and checking? I'd like to be able to click on "you have 5 replies in the activity area" and see the replies.
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Re "whatever happened to Disneyland" I was curious and looked it up. It started with Phil Simms after the Super Bowl in 1987. He got either $75,000 or $50,000 for saying "I'm going to Disney World" in the same situation that Payton Manning used to plug drinking beer. Comments for money is not a new thing. Joe Montana, ...
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Notapenny - I contacted Civil and they assured me that everyone would get equitable moderation treatment. I'm gonna try it and if it doesn't hold up, their business model will be proven wrong and they will fail. They seem to have removed the human bias element from the moderation equation and that can be seen as lev...
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These are "planned" in the same way that I plan to be skinny and good looking. ie, it'd be nice, but I'm not really doing anything about it at the moment except dreaming.
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Thanks SD, that's a great point. We'll get it in the Activity area asap.
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Sounds fair to me.
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"Nobody in the history of the world has experienced what he experienced...by me,"
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It took forever to log in. And I am doubtful if it will work the next time. Personally I was not bothered by the ignorant, vile, nasty comments. I just thought it showed the stupidity of the posters. I suppose it scared away some timid souls, to be reviled for being a feminazi or a liberal posting agit-prop. I worry, ...
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That seems odd for someone posting using a screen name to want people to use real names. So I disagree with your comment, and I was under the impression that we would have a way to mark it as such, but I'm not seeing that. And I'm not going to flag it, although others certainly will flag posts they disagree with. None ...
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If "honesty" trumps transparency, why not apply that the same standard to LTE by permitting anonymous letters and anonymous op-eds? I fully understand the fear that your words could be used against you, but that fear would help accomplish the goal you are trying to accomplish with this new system. People will commen...
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I couldn't do it, either thru Disqus or using my RG e-mail, so I had to switch to my other e-mail and a new password.
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A good time to raise the gas tax, and use the money for repairing our streets, roads, and bridges. The tax could even be linked to the price of gas. The higher the price, the lower the tax, etc
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"Can they just things alone?" No. Also you just accidentally the whole thing. "Why are they building more unaffordable housing for people from California!?" Because then Californians will move into those spots instead of moving into the currently more affordable spots. More people want to live in Portland than the...
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I like the way Coach Altman looks at the Pac-12 standings and the respective team's remaining home & away games. He thinks like a winner and has imparted that philosophy to his players. Bearing injuries to key players, I think the Ducks can go deep into the Big Dance this season. In fact, with breaks, they could ...
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Good move Register Guard. As Sarah Palin might ask, "Can I get a hallelujah?"
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I wonder if having to read and rate three comments before being published is gonna discourage people. Kinda time consuming...
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Hi Tim, thanks for the input. In testing it's fared well, with just a 6% abandonment rate, but we are open to the idea of opt-in reviews for the most trusted users. Would love to hear more of your thoughts on that!
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Altman thinks they have "even more in the tank" ...wouldn't that be something as visits to No Cal and So Cal are gonna be brutal.
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Time-consuming, although I appreciate having a chance to weigh in on other comments, which it seems I really don't get to do otherwise except for flags and stars. Because we don't see the context of the comments we're asked about, sometimes it's hard to answer. And I would rather answer "don't know" than "sorta."
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Any way to turn off auto-email notifications? I'm anticipating a lot of likes.
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I love the first sunny days in Portland each year. Everyone is so freaking happy they actually look up at you in the eye (partly because there in no rain they are trying to keep off their face and partly its too bright to read their phone screen) and say hi and do a little skip down the road.
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Sorry if I missed discussion of this before, but if I want to know what "christa_m" has posted in the past, is there a way to do that? And when I look at my activity it says my first two posts were "published by my peers" but my third was "published automatically." (And this is my fourth.) So that made me curious ...
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Per Civil Comments co-founder aja_bog: "There’s a little box at the top of the review that shows more context for the comment - if it’s the first comment in a thread, it shows the article headline and excerpt. If it’s a reply, it shows the parent comment, so you can avoid such sticky situations."
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Maybe guns should come with breathalyzers.
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I mailed my issue, I now see my user name. We will now see how it posts.
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Typical Florence Police, didn't arrest this guy the day of the accident after he admitted to drinking and the blood alcohol level was above the limit. Now he's gone. Keystone cops over there. Here in Eugene that never would have happened.
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As for the first item (knowing what a user has posted previously), that will come with "following" users, something we are working on now and which should be ready fairly soon. As for the "published automatically" status: that means you've passed our algorithm's checks (which are based on a combination of several fac...
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Until now, we hadn't run into confusion on the context for each comment. As this is the third comment about it today, though, it seems I should take another pass at the design to make it more straightforward!
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If you would like to make sure the food cart pods will continue to exist as is I'm sure that the family that owns those lots would be happy to sell them to you for the value they expect to make from those towers.
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You're quite right. Nothing quite like two drunk guys and a readily available gun.
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Naaahh.
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Isn't 'civility' open to perception? This will be interesting, Dave. l2g
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Did you expect that food carts would be there forever? After the 2008 bust the landowners figured they weren't going to make money by selling so the easiest way was to get a monthly rent without having to do any development and voila, you get food carts. Give the market time to recover and now that property is profit...
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Great question, Dave! I think the definition of "incivility" is actually more important when reviewing comments, and we define "incivility" as personal attacks, harassment, and abuse. That leaves plenty of room for "civil" comments to be angry, passionate, and spirited—so long as they are respectful, attacking ideas in...
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And once again, a 'committee' directs an 'agency' to come up with a 'plan' which will be the result of a years worth of meetings by a 'task force' made up of 'stakeholders'. Once a 'plan' is proposed, there will be several months of opportunities for 'public input'. Two years from now, absolutely, positively nothin...
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Well I'm puzzled on why he wasn't arrested on the spot. I'd say Mr. Cheeseman didn't learn much when he took the Diversion Plan for first offenders. Call me a 'skeptic' but I highly doubt this is Mr. Cheeseman's first time driving and drinking. RIP Ms. Benson and my deepest condolences to her family and friends.
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You've got it. politicians and bureaucrats dancing together.......
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The other question that some of the Democrats need to look at is the fact that Hillary, unlike Obama, doesn't have any 'coat tails' to drag other Senatorial and House Candidates into office on if she can't energize anybody but the old hippy legions. Bernie might just be able to do that if he, like Obama, can get out t...
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What the hell is algorithm analysis, and how can it judge the "quality" -- whatever that is, of my content? Or do I even get to ask that question that way?
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Civil Comments CAN NOT be trusted in way shape or form with ANY personal information. Civil Co. will sell any and all personal information harvested from your use at this site for a profit. What you say, repost, star, or flag will be used to create a behavioral profile that is sold to any business or person that is...
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As a co-founder of Civil, I have to say, I find this information rather surprising. Background checks? Insurance screening? That all sounds quite nefarious for a four-person Portland startup trying to improve online comments. :o
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W/Disqus, when someone would reply either by a vote or a comment, a highlighted dot would appear w/how many and who said what and where w/option to go the exact place where the comment appears or make the reply w/the pop.up window. Will Civil be providing that service as well? If it is a function that is active, whe...
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I sympathize with your concerns, but using your real name and personal information on any website, this or any other, subjects you to scrutiny down the road. If you do not give your personal information (as I don't), then the "behavioral profile" is worthless to any buyer.
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The time for being polite is rapidly running out. Good for the clean energy folks. They're doing no less than trying to save the world from itself and doing it against the interests of the most powerful, wealthy corporations on the planet-- oil and coal. Who do you think is against this measure? The environmentalists a...
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We'll have to see how this works. Many people (often the so-called progressives or those who consider themselves the most "liberal") define anything with which they disagree as uncivil, hateful, or even racist. So when I see the talking up of crowd sourced moderation in a forum populated mostly by the left, I thin...
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I'm going to give it a little time. Dave cited how well it's going for the Willamette Rag but it's us who'll do the 'thumbs up' ..'thumbs down'. Personally? www.Reddit.com is my favorite site to post comments and get into discussions. I don't "do" FB........never have/never will. That being said, I've been on both...
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I'm hopeful this will generate genuine and respectful discussion. Thanks for making the switch with the intent of making things better.
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How will the new rules treat irony? The sardonic but good-natured quip?
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They are also owned by a venture capital company whose CEO hosted a fundraiser for Jeb Bush last year. They are not the same company they used to be. This keeps happening to local grocery chains in Portland. They get popluar then sell to another company and before you know it they are Whole Foods.
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This is a really poor substitute for actual vocational classes at the high school level. if we want to train students to work in the manufacturing industry, they don't need one day seminars on team building and problem solving, they need training in how to do things like cut a piece of wood, drive a screw, operate a be...
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Mr. Meek had to write a column on the Super Bowl today. It's part of his job. He did it as well as "the athlete who "answers every question," ". Just not as exciting.
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Coen brothers movies alway entertain and amuse me, I see them all eventually.
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It took awhile to figure out how to get signed-in, then logged-in. The Civil Comments may need to be tweaked, the RG wouldn't want to lose any customers.
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Thanks Christa, I have to say, the old system could be challenging if not downright frustrating. I'm holding out hope that this will alleviate those issues, while allowing healthy discourse and even enhance discussions that at times fall apart into bitter attacks that serve no useful purpose.
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I agree with John Ludlow, a Clackamas County commissioner, “taxation without representation”. Furthermore, this will have more impacts than benefits. It will also further tarnish LTD's battered reputation, and make transit less appealing. This proposal tax needs to be approved by the voters.
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Please end it. Its bad enough that the new city hall is being built with General fund money, and the city is thinking about a park maintenance levy. When will it end? Also, it certainly won't help make housing more "affordable".
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I know... I miss seeing "libturd" sprinkled heavily throughout the comment sections.
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some day somebody is going to make a $gazillion by inventing a universally accepted Sarcasm Font!
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I don't think you can actually 'further tarnish LYD's reputation'. I rank it down below Members of Congress , used car salesmen, and attorneys combined.
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The 'behavioral profile' is worthless to a buyer, unless Civil Comments sells your true identity at some point in the future. The fortune obtained by the founder of Facebook is tempting.
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Sounds ok to me.
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It's a serious problem! Everything about me is ironic, including my name! [sarcasm]As a means of overcoming the obstacle of humorless algorithms, we might use html codes as an oblique reference to the non-existent sarcasm font. Do you suppose that would work?[/sarcasm]
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Now that I have tried it, I miss not seeing who exactly is "liking" a comment being made. I don't understand the change. I am always attracted to similar thinkers, and do not see a problem in knowing who they are.
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So Salem voters defeat a tax to spend more money on transit, and Courtney then thinks its a good idea to raise taxes anyway? Listen to the Salem voters! Listen to us! At the risk of being uncivil, let me say that the TriMet lobbyist needs to take some miralax for his funding stool and flush it down the toilet.
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And ballots.
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Good News. Hillary hasn't been charged with a crime yet. Per FBI General Counsel James Baker: Since last September, “in public statements and testimony, The Federal Bureau of Investigation has acknowledged generally that it is working on matters related to former Secretary Clinton’s use of a private e-mail serve...
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Wondering if they are having some technical issues..anyone having a problem getting through the posting requirements?
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One thing I find unacceptable is that this entire problem happened not just while the Michigan bureaucracy with a Republican Governor moved blithely on, but under the supposed oversight of the Federal EPA who also ignored the problem. It was a bunch of college students who actually did the scientific work that the EPA...
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Civility > Anonymity
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I disagree, but not with your point, but with the suggestion that it was uncivil. That's a delightfully powerful way to put it, not uncivil at all. Civil doesn't mean bland or boring. And look – yours is the highest rated. :)
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Here's what I've been able to figure: The RG sold the user names from Disqus that commented on RG articles to a new company called "Civil." "Civil" then reserved those user names to be claimed by RG readers claiming to belong to that Disqus handle. Some users have even managed to claim their "reserved" handles. A...
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Yeah, may not be breaking news, but that it's a manifestation of other issues doesn't mean it's not a problem, and that it's not breaking news doesn't mean it doesn't belong in discussion. Too bad though that you and motleycrew are so obviously right about the frustration that is likely to follow. I don't want the news...
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“I’ve always believed that a bus system should belong to everyone,” Courtney said, in a prepared statement. Funny. If I remember correctly, the majority of Eugene's polled residents overwhelmingly said they didn't want EMX.
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@WayneKerr and 40-20, no, not an algorithm, and not artificial intelligence. It's much better than that. It's that any of us who care to comment have to take about 10 extra seconds to pitch in and evaluate other comments, chosen at random, on other issues, for whether they are good comments or not, and whether they are...
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It's not an algorithm. It's all of us, in the 10 extra seconds it takes after we hit the "submit" button. And really, don't we know what's civil and what isn't? And can't we distinguish between "I disagree" and toxic anonymous whatever? I can.
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I don't think there's even the slightest hope of stopping anybody from lying. I can deal with lies. Just confine it to lies without ad-hominem insults and name calling, or bullying. But I'm biased.
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Maybe this could be a win-win for both sides. Have the Girl Scouts give out a free bud coupon for every 5 boxes of Thin Mints. Or, have the retail marijuana stores give a free box of Thin Mints for every 5 grams of bud sold. A win-win, right?
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The idea is that they put up other comments, on other issues, so we don’t rate civil or not because we agree with what’s said. I’m not voting down comments because I disagree with them. Are you? I’m voting them down when they are just insults, name calling, bullying, etc.
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Interesting. I knew this guy. Always figured he was the type. Very creepy. Not sure why there is so much focus on Symantec in the article though. It's not like he was managment, just a phone tech. I'd be more concerned with his church activities than his employer. As I recall he bought a large van just so he could driv...
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Lets not discount the write-in vote. I would rather vote for who I feel is the best for the job, not the few presented to me by the oligarchy. Write-in voting could change the face of politics overnight, but voting write-in is an independent thing to do, and most voters seem to be merely sheeple. Vote write-in and chan...
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Thanks for giving this a try RG. I have increasingly been avoiding comments because they were so often off topic and mean spirited. That's too bad because readers often have useful ideas to contribute. Hope this works and the debate is still lively.
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This is a predictable side effect of the continuing escalation of real estate prices. Food cart owners should simply raise prices to offset costs, and if the market will not accept those prices they should give way to businesses that are more viable. Dining at restaurants and food carts is a luxury, and is part of the ...
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Your e-mail notifications say who "starred" you, but it would be much more convenient to have this sort of information available at the RG site, I agree.
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Duncan, you seem to think that the only value found in a forest lies in what it can be sold for when cut and rendered into lumber. Humanity as a whole no longer sees things that way. Forests provide oxygen and habitat for other species.
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How about review the first ~X comments from a user at a particular site, and then trust until they are flagged, at which point send their next ~X comments for review. Maybe toss in a random sampling of posts from everyone for review. That way (one would hope) most comments would not require review, and most posts would...
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It's uncommon for employees to be arrested at Symantec. They are screened before being hired, and it's a security company. Neither of those means employees cannot commit crimes, of course, but it's noteworthy enough to be a relevant element of the story. Your comment about the other employee in the same department is...
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I just ran into the context issue. The comment was, "there is no need to be civil towards someone like this", and the parent was, "you are more civil than I". I didn't know what the starting comment was, so couldn't really figure out the conversation at all.
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It is useful to see letters like the original one this letter responds to. A supporter of Sanders' may have in mind some possible criticisms and be ready to agree or disagree as the case may be. But often the attacks come out of left field, such as "he will seize your backyard gardens!" and that letter helps remind one...
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god bless LTD - they must be a split personality type of company. last week, month and pretty much year, LTD got slammed mostly for the EmX and financial stuff. this morning (?) I read comments from people who are happy about route and service changes that sound like they were actually improvements and I thought YA...
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Absolutely; it's definitely in the works, along with a ton of other social features.
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"For instance, quite a few don’t seem to know or recognize that by law they need to move to the right of the road if they are the slower moving vehicle." Nope.
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We need to do what ever California is dong. Per the AP their gas is 76 cents per gallon more than what we pay. Oh, wait, we already followed their lead with that bill passed by the last Legislative Session that just hasn't kicked in yet. We'll catch them yet.
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One can only wonder whether any single section of the article above could have survived the civil comments filter. Good gravy, that was salty.
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I think you might want to back down a little until the body count catches up. There's a huge difference between collisions that involve a car and those that don't. One is responsible for 30,000+ deaths per year in the USA, and the other so few they're not counted in the statistics. I'm not suggesting the cyclist w...
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Who is "we" in this context, and what interest do they have in maintaining street food? The people who want to eat it? The condo developers who get a premium for its proximity? The clothing store that sees extra foot traffic from them? The brick/mortar restaurant that wishes they'd go away? One thing is for sure. V...
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Agreed. There have been a number of "articles" lately that would have been more at home on OLive.
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