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Because there -- there are two ways of dealing with our health care crisis.
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And the fact of the matter is that, when Obamacare is fully implemented, we're going to be in a position to show that costs are going down.
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Let me make one last point.
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In fact, it's estimated that by repealing Obamacare, you're looking at 50 million people losing health insurance...
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In my opinion, the government is not effective in -- in bringing down the cost of almost anything.
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Your example of the Cleveland Clinic is my case in point, along with several others I could describe.
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This is the private market.
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2,483
In order to bring the cost of health care down, we don't need to have a board of 15 people telling us what kinds of treatments we should have.
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Innermountain Healthcare does it superbly well, Mayo Clinic is doing it superbly well, Cleveland Clinic, others.
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That's the wrong way to go.
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Let me just point out first of all this board that we're talking about can't make decisions about what treatments are given.
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That's explicitly prohibited in the law.
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Well, actually Governor, that isn't what your plan does.
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There's a reason why Governor Romney set up the plan that he did in Massachusetts.
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It wasn't a government takeover of health care.
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It was the largest expansion of private insurance.
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Now, that also means that you've got more customers.
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2,501
It just reminds me of, you know, he says that he's going to close deductions and loopholes for his tax plan.
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He now says he's going to replace Obamacare and ensure that all the good things that are in it are going to be in there and you don't have to worry.
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And at some point, I think the American people have to ask themselves, is the reason that Governor Romney is keeping all these plans to replace secret because they're too good?
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Is it -- is it because that somehow middle-class families are going to benefit too much from them?
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I -- I have to respond to that.
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When Ronald Reagan ran for office, he laid out the principles that he was going to foster.
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That's one way one could do it.
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You obviously studied up on -- on my plan.
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Well, I definitely think there are differences.
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The first role of the federal government is to keep the American people safe.
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But I also believe that government has the capacity, the federal government has the capacity to help open up opportunity and create ladders of opportunity and to create frameworks where the American people can succeed.
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2,555
And so what I've tried to do as president is to apply those same principles.
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We use something called Race to the Top.
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I do, because I think that that is the kind of investment where the federal government can help.
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Well, first, I love great schools.
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And the key to great schools, great teachers.
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Every school district, every state should make that decision on their own.
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The role of government: Look behind us.
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The Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.
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The role of government is to promote and protect the principles of those documents.
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I believe in maintaining the strength of America's military.
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That statement also says that we are endowed by our creator with the right to pursue happiness as we choose.
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We're a nation that believes that we're all children of the same god and we care for those that have difficulties, those that are elderly and have problems and challenges, those that are disabled.
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You know, this is where budgets matter, because budgets reflect choices.
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And it wasn't very detailed.
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This seems to be a trend.
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But -- but what it did do is to -- if you extrapolated how much money we're talking about, you'd look at cutting the education budget by up to 20 percent.
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When it comes to community colleges, we are seeing great work done out there all over the country because we have the opportunity to train people for jobs that exist right now.
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And one of the things I suspect Governor Romney and I probably agree on is getting businesses to work with community colleges so that they're setting up their training programs...
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Let me just say one final example.
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When it comes to making college affordable, whether it's two-year or four-year, one of the things that I did as president was we were sending $60 billion to banks and lenders as middlemen for the student loan program, even though the loans were guaranteed.
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And as a consequence, what we've been able to do is to provide millions more students assistance, lower or keep low interest rates on student loans.
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And this is an example of where our priorities make a difference.
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I'm planning on (inaudible) to grow.
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And these businesses, many of them have gone out of business, I think about half of them, of the ones have been invested in have gone out of business.
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I propose we grade our schools so parents know which schools are succeeding and failing, so they can take their child to a -- to a school that he's being more successful.
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I don't want to cut our commitment to education.
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I don't just talk about it.
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This is not because I didn't have commitment to education.
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You've done a great job.
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We -- as president, I will sit on day one -- actually, the day after I get elected -- I'll sit down with leaders -- the Democratic leaders, as well as Republican leaders, and continue -- as we did in my state -- we met every Monday for a couple hours, talked about the issues and the challenges in the -- in the -- in our state in that case.
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But we need to have leadership -- leadership in Washington that will actually bring people together and get the job done and could not care less if -- if it's a Republican or a Democrat.
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But, ultimately, part of being principled, part of being a leader is, A, being able to describe exactly what it is that you intend to do, not just saying, "I'll sit down," but you have to have a plan.
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And, you know, yes, have we had some fights between me and the Republicans when -- when they fought back against us reining in the excesses of Wall Street?
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Well, Jim, I want to thank you, and I want to thank Governor Romney, because I think was a terrific debate, and I very much appreciate it.
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And I want to thank the University of Denver.
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All those things are designed to make sure that the American people, their genius, their grit, their determination, is -- is channeled and -- and they have an opportunity to succeed.
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I've kept that promise and if you'll vote for me, then I promise I'll fight just as hard in a second term.
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Thank you, Jim, and Mr. President.
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And there really are two very different paths that we began speaking about this evening, and over the course of this month we're going to have two more presidential debates and a vice presidential debate.
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But they lead in very different directions.
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We'll put in place the kind of principles that I put in place in my own state and allow each state to craft their own programs to get people insured and we'll focus on getting the cost of health care down.
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You'll have 4 million people who will lose Medicare Advantage.
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I'll restore that $716 billion to Medicare.
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The president's reelected you'll see dramatic cuts to our military.
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Well I think this Republican administration has been almost all style, and spectacular, and not substance.
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In every one of these instances, the Ford administration has failed, and I hope tonight that I and Mr. Ford will have a chance to discuss the reasons for those failures.
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We've uh - ignored or excluded the American people and the Congress from participation in the shaping of our foreign policy.
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It's been one of secrecy and exclusion.
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In addition to that we've had a chance to became now, contrary to our long-standing beliefs and principles, the arms merchant of the whole world.
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In addition to that we've become fearful to compete with the Soviet Union on an equal basis.
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We have not known what we've wanted and we've been out-traded in almost every instance.
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The other point I wanna make is about our defense.
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The ability to fight, if necessary, is the best way to avoid the chance for, or the requirement to fight.
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Even the Republican platform has criticized the lack of leadership in Mr. Ford and they've criticized the foreign policy of this administration.
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This is one instance where I agree with - with the Republican platform.
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Governor Carter in November of 1975 indicated that he wanted to cut the defense budget by $15 billion.
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A few months later, he said he wanted to cut the defense budget by eight or nine billion dollars.
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I don't believe we should move to a cold-war relationship.
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I think it's in the best interest of the United States, and the world as a whole that the United States negotiate rather than go back to the cold-war relationship with the Soviet Union.
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Today, according to Prime Minister Rabin, the Soviet Union is weaker in the Middle East than they have been in many, many years.
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But let's turn for a minute to the uhh - southern African operations that are now going on.
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We wanted to end the bloodshed in southern Africa.
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The United States foreign policy under this administration has been one of progress and success.
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And may I make an observation - part of the question you asked, Mr. Trewhitt?
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As a matter of fact, uh - I've never advocated any cut of $15 billion in our defense budget.
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After he fired James Schlesinger, the political heat got so great that he added back about $3 billion.
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When Ronald Reagan won the Texas primary election, Mr. Ford added back another one and a half billion dollars.
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Immediately before the Kansas City convention, he added back another one point eight billion dollars in the defense budget.
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And his own uh - Office of Management and Budget testified that he had a $3 billion cut insurance added to the defense budget - defense budget under the pressure from the Pentagon.
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Obviously, this is another indication of trying to use the defense budget for political purposes, which he's trying to do tonight.
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Well, I'm not gonna name my cabinet before I get elected.
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I've served as the Governor of Georgia and have traveled extensively in foreign countries and South America, Central America, Europe, the Middle East and in Japan.
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