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In article <Apr.13.00.08.44.1993.28424@athos.rutgers.edu> heath@athena.cs.uga.edu (Terrance Heath) writes: > > Fortunately, my own personal theology, which will probably not >fall into line with a lot others, recognized God as a being both >without gender and posessing qualities of both genders, as being both >a masculine and feminine force. That is not necessarily unorthodox. When Christians call God 'Father', we are using a metaphor. The Bible in one place refers to God as being like a mother. God is neither a father nor a mother in the literal sense; God has some of the attributes of both; the father metaphor is usually used because (for most people at most times) it is the less misleading of the two possibilities. -- :- Michael A. Covington, Associate Research Scientist : ***** :- Artificial Intelligence Programs mcovingt@ai.uga.edu : ********* :- The University of Georgia phone 706 542-0358 : * * * :- Athens, Georgia 30602-7415 U.S.A. amateur radio N4TMI : ** *** ** <><
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In article rind@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu (David Rind) writes: >In article davpa@ida.liu.se (David Partain) writes: >>Someone I know has recently been diagnosed as having Candida Albicans, >>a disease about which I can find no information. Apparently it has something >>to do with the body's production of yeast while at the same time being highly >>allergic to yeast. Can anyone out there tell me any more about it? >Candida albicans can cause severe life-threatening infections, usually >in people who are otherwise quite ill. This is not, however, the sort >of illness that you are probably discussing. > >"Systemic yeast syndrome" where the body is allergic to >yeast is considered a quack diagnosis by mainstream medicine. There >is a book "The Yeast Connection" which talks about this "illness". > >There is no convincing evidence that such a disease exists. There's a lot of evidence, it just hasn't been adequately gathered and published in a way that will convince the die-hard melancholic skeptics who quiver everytime the word 'anecdote' or 'empirical' is used. For example, Dr. Ivker, who wrote the book "Sinus Survival", always gives, before any other treatment, a systemic anti-fungal (such as Nizoral) to his new patients IF they've been on braod-spectrum anti-biotics 4 or more times in the last two years. He's kept a record of the results, and for over 2000 patients found that over 90% of his patients get significant relief of allergic/sinus symptoms. Of course, this is only the beginning for his program. In my case, as I reported a few weeks ago, I was developing the classic symptoms outlined in 'The Yeast Connection' (I agree it is a poorly written book): e.g., extreme sensitivity to plastics, vapors, etc. which I never had before (started in November). Within one week of full dosage of Sporanox, the sensitivity to chemicals has fully disappeared - I can now sit on my couch at home without dying after two minutes. I'm also *greatly* improved in other areas as well. Of course, I have allergy symptoms, etc. I am especially allergic to molds, yeasts, etc. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that if one has excessive colonization of yeast in the body, and you have a natural allergy to yeasts, that a threshold would be reached where you would have perceptible symptoms. Also, yeast do produce toxins of various sorts, and again, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that such toxins can cause problems in some people. In my case it was sinus since that's the center of my allergic response. Of course, the $60,000 question is whether a person who is immune compromised (as tests showed I was from over 5 years of antibiotics, nutritionally-deficiencies because of the stress of infections and allergies, etc.), can develop excessive yeast colonization somewhere in the body. It is a tough question to answer since testing for excessive yeast colonization is not easy. One almost has to take an empirical approach to diagnosis. Fortunately, Sporanox is relatively safe unlike past anti-fungals (still have to be careful, however) so there's no reason any longer to withhold Sporanox treatment for empirical reasons. BTW, some would say to try Nystatin. Unfortunately, most yeast grows hyphae too deep into tissue for Nystatin to have any permanent affect. You'll find a lot of people who are on Nystatin all the time. In summary, I appreciate all of the attempts by those who desire to keep medicine on the right road. But methinks that some who hold too firmly to the party line are academics who haven't been in the trenches long enough actually treating patients. If anybody, doctors included, said to me to my face that there is no evidence of the 'yeast connection', I cannot guarantee their safety. For their incompetence, ripping off their lips is justified as far as I am concerned. Jon Noring -- Charter Member --->>> INFJ Club. If you're dying to know what INFJ means, be brave, e-mail me, I'll send info. ============================================================================= | Jon Noring | noring@netcom.com | | | JKN International | IP : 192.100.81.100 | FRED'S GOURMET CHOCOLATE | | 1312 Carlton Place | Phone : (510) 294-8153 | CHIPS - World's Best! | | Livermore, CA 94550 | V-Mail: (510) 417-4101 | | ============================================================================= Who are you? Read alt.psychology.personality! That's where the action is.
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I'm a biker and a dog-lover. First and foremost, I want to mention some common sense. If it's a choice between injuring/killing a dog or getting yourself injured/killed, there is only one rational decision. Only the most insane animal rights kook would put the dog first. Second, it's useful to learn how to read a dog's body language. How you react to a dog who is chasing you because he thinks it's a game (and that you're playing with him) is completely different from how you react to a dog which has hostile intent. Third, it's useful to learn how to present yourself to a dog. Dogs are social beasts, and recognize a domination/submission hierarchy. To a dog, there are two types of fellow-creatures; that which he dominates, and that which dominate him. You need to unambiguously represent yourself as being of the latter class. You are God: you are easily angered and your anger is terrible. But God is also amused by one who properly submits to His dominance, and may even on rare occasions dispense a kind word, a kind word, or even (oh joy oh rapture unforeseen) A Dog Bisquit! Now, how does that all relate to biking? Well, first, it's a good idea to assume that most dogs who chase motorcycles do so because they think it's a game, and not out of overt hostility. The MSF suggestion is a very good one; when you see the dog coming, slow down so he determines a particular place of interception. Just before you (and he) reach that spot, punch the throttle so that when he reaches it you're already long gone. Dogs take a few seconds to react to new input, and definitely cannot comprehend the acceleration that a motorcycle is capable of. With a hostile dog, or one which you repeatedly encounter, stronger measures may be necessary. This is the face off. First -- and there is very important -- make sure you NEVER face off a dog on his territory. Face him off on the road, not on his driveway. If necessary, have a large stick, rolled up newspaper, etc. (something the beast will understand is something that will hurt him). Stand your ground, then slowly advance. Your mental attitude is that you are VERY ANGRY and are going to dispense TERRIBLE PUNISHMENT. The larger the dog, the greater your anger. Dogs will pick up anger, just as they can pick up fear. And, since you and he are not on his home territory, it may suddenly dawn on the dog that perhaps he is on your territory, and that you are prepared to fight to the death. Most dogs will decide that it is a good idea to retreat to their own territory where there is at least a home advantage. They'll also observe that you are satisfied by that retreat (gesture of submission) and thus they have escaped punishment. The interesting thing about dogs is that body language communicates a great deal to them. The more effective you are at communicating body language, the less you actually have to do. After 7 years with my 93 pound beast, I've learned a few tricks I think...
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The San Francisco Examiner reports that Clinton has issued instructions to federal law enforcement that they may not kill or injure anyone to resolve the Waco situation. So they've built a fence around the compound, and are now seriously considering building up the fence to prison-camp levels, pulling out most of the manpower, and waiting however many months it takes. John Nagle
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I have a few the original IBM 10Mb harddisks for sale. They are actually Seagate's ST412, MFM, full height, has the IBM logo and black face plate. Each disk is checked and formatted with DOS 5.0. It can be doubled to 20Mb or so with dblspace or stacker if you so desire. Have the original IBM foam fitted boxies and anti-static bags. I am not sure if they were ever used, but each drive that is sent out will be quarenteed in good working order. $30 each plus shipping cost, (about $5), If you have one of those old IBM XT or PCs, this is for you ! It's cheaper than a floppy drive !
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In article <1qvb5aINNmoi@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU writes: > In article <15378@optilink.COM> cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes: # #From the Santa Rosa (Cal.) Press-Democrat, April 15, 1993, p. B2: # # # # Male sex survey: Gay activity low # # Note this contradictory title- Gay Activity Low. Not really. The percentage of gays was low. Headline writers aren't noted for accuracy. # # A new natonal study on male sexual behavior, the most thorough # # examination of American men's sexual practices published since # # the Kinsey report more than four decades ago, shows about 2 # # percent of the men surveyed had engaged in homosexual sex and # # 1 percent considered themselves exclusively homosexual. # # # #The article also contains numbers on the number of sexual partners. # #The median number of sexual partners for all men 20-39 was 7.3. # # #It's a shame that we don't have a breakdown for # #straight men vs. gay/bi men -- that would show even more dramatically # #how much more promiscuous gay/bi men are. # #-- # # Now let's take a quick look at what you are saying. # # The median of a distribution is that variate-value which divides the # distribution halfway, i.e. 1/2 of the distribution (population) have # lower and half have higher variate-values. # # So for Males 20-39 the median=7.3, this means that half of these men # are higher than this and half are lower than this. Now if the population # sample size is 3300, and 1% of them are gay, 33 males are gay. If we Actually, 2% were either exclusively homosexual, or bisexual. You aren't readiing very carefully. # say they are distributed equally then only 16.5 are greater than 7.3 # sexual partners, of course, this means that 49.5% heterosexual men are # greater than 7.3. # # Interesting results. -- Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine! Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
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In a previous article, garrett@Ingres.COM (THE SKY ALREADY FELL. NOW WHAT?) says: >In article <9304161803.AA23713@inet-gw-2.pa.dec.com>, blh@uiboise.idbsu.edu (Broward L. Horne) writes... >I guess your strength isn't in math. Clinton hasn't been president for >6 months. In other words, it's BUSH'S Wiretapping Initiative. >> You're right, I bailed out in Diff Eq. Nevertheless, I would suggest to YOU that there is a difference between a "proposed BILL, stalled in Congress" and a "executive order, crammed down OUR THROATS". Do you disagree? >> I strongly urge you to consider moving any savings you >> have overseas, into protected bank accounts, while >> you are still able. >> >Have you? Went to the Post Office on Friday, got my passport apps in. My savings have already been converted.
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Perhaps it's prophetic that the week "Where are they now?" appears and I can claim to be a still-active old-timer, my news software gets bit rot and ships outgoing articles into a deep hole somewhere... Anyway, here's a repost: In article <1qi156INNf9n@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> tcbruno@athena.mit.edu (Tom Bruno) writes: > >Which brings me to the point of my posting. How many people out there have >been around alt.atheism since 1990? I've done my damnedest to stay on top of >the newsgroup, but when you fall behind, you REALLY fall behind [...] These days you don't have to fall far behind... Last Monday (admittedly after a long weekend, but...) I had 800+ messages just in those few days. Aside from a hiatus while changing jobs last Fall I've been here since 1990. >Has anyone tried to >keep up with the deluge? Inquiring minds want to know! Also-- does anyone >keep track of where the more infamous posters to alt.atheism end up, once they >leave the newsgroup? Just curious, I guess. Hell, Norway? The rubber room at the funny farm? Seminary? It is not given to us to know... -- Jim Perry perry@dsinc.com Decision Support, Inc., Matthews NC These are my opinions. For a nominal fee, they can be yours.
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From article by ece_0028@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (David Anderson): > In article mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) writes: >>frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes: >>> (Peter Walker) writes: >>> >>> #What I do know is that I can observe phenomena, creAte a theory that >>> #explains new phenomena, observe these new phenomena. >>> >>> Prove that you can observe phenomena, Lord. >> >>Prove that you exist, Frank. > > Cogito, ergo sum. :) Cogito, ergo spud. I think, therefore I yam. :-D kyuk kyuk kyuk
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In article <C5y9x7.7v0@well.sf.ca.us>, seelowe@well.sf.ca.us (Hudson H Luce) writes: > I suggest another name change: > Thomas Parsli .... to .... Vidkun Quisling This is really uncalled for. You cannot expect a European, growing up in a culture of "rulers" and "subjects," to immediately grasp the concepts of individual independence and citizen sovereignity in the US. He's less at fault than the countrymen we have here who also can't grasp it. -- cdt@rocket.sw.stratus.com --If you believe that I speak for my company, OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Investors' Packet...
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arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes: >>But, if you were to discuss the merits of racism, or its psycholgical >>benefits, you would do well to have experienced it personally. >When you speak of "experiencing religion" you mean someone should believe in >a religion. That's right, and this is pretty impossible, right? It would be ideal if we could believe for a while, just to try out religion, and only then determine which course of thought suits us best. But again, this is not possible. Not that religion warrants belief, but the belief carries with it some psychological benefits. There are also some psychological burdens, too. >When you speak of "experiencing racism", do you mean that someone should >believe in racism, or that they should have racist things done to them? For >parallelism, the former must be what you meant, but it seems to be an odd >usage of the phrase. Well, if there were some psychological or other benefits gained from racism, they could only be fully understood or judged by persons actually "believing" in racism. Of course, the parallel happens to be a poor one, but you originated it. keith
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In article <1993Apr5.120921.28985@dxcern.cern.ch>, jeroen@dxcern.cern.ch (Jeroen Belleman) writes: |> In article <C4vs0G.5ux@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> dgj2y@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (David Glen Jacobowitz) writes: |> > Is it just me, or does anybody else out there NOT like digital |> >scopes. My school has ... |> > |> > David Jacobowitz |> > dgj2y@virginia.edu |> |> Oh no you're not the only one. Analogue scopes give you (or me, at |> least) a fair idea of what's going on in a circuit. Digital scopes |> seem to have a habit of inventing a sizable part of it. E.g. even |> when there are only a few samples per period, our HP54510A displays a |> continuous waveform, complete with non-existing overshoots. I've |> waded through lots of manual pages and menus, but I haven't found yet |> how to turn this off. It doesn't show which points have actually |> been measured, as opposed to those which have been interpolated, |> either. Perhaps you're using the wrong brand! (Sorry all HP fans, but I have a hard time being convinced that their scopes match the rest of their (excellent) gear). One of the principal functions I look for when considering a DSO is whether you can turn interpolation off. The other important feature is to disable repetitive waveform acquisition i.e. being able to lock the instrument into real time capture mode. |> |> Secondly, I don't like menus. I want to see all common functions |> with their own button. (You'll have guessed I love analogue Tek |> scopes) I'd choose a knob with printed legend over an on-screen |> display with up-down buttons right away. The single knob of most |> digital instruments never seems to be connected to the right function |> at the right moment. |> I agree with you here. The only consolation is that manufacturers are _beginning_ to pay attention to ergonomics when designing the menus. However, to be fair, it seems that first time scope users (our students) seem to adjust to menus easier than navigating around the twenty or more knobs required of a "real" scope :-) |> Last but not least, you never know if the waveform displayed is old |> or recent, noisy or just incoherently modulated, heck, you don't |> even know if it really looks the way it's displayed. Digital scopes |> only show you a tiny fraction of what's going on. Most of the time |> the're busy computing things. This is one area that newer DSOs are addressing. I recently evaluated the latest box from Tek - their TDS320 - which seems to be a worthy alternative to a standard 100MHz analogue CRO. This instrument has a 100MHz, 500Ms/s spec, meaning that it is _always_ in real time capture mode. The pricing also matches equivalent analogue scopes in the range. The downer is that the instrument uses menus again, but at least they appear to be logically laid out. |> |> There are only three situations for which I would prefer a digital |> scope: Looking at what happened before the trigger, looking at rare |> events, and acquiring the data to have my computer play with it. |> |> |> Let's hope scope manufacturers are listening... |> |> Best regards, |> Jeroen Belleman |> jeroen@dxcern.cern.ch One more thing about the new, "simpler", front panels. These instruments tend to use digital rotary encoders as knobs now. This is a vast improvement over the old oak switch. The single most common cause of failure in our scopes (other than students blowing up inputs!) is mechanical wear on these switches. I look at the new panels as a great step toward increasing the longevity of the instruments. JohnH ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | _ |_ _ |_| _ _| _| Electronics Department |_| (_) | | | | | | (_| (_| (_| \/ School of MPCE ---------------------------------/- Macquarie University Sydney, AUSTRALIA 2109 Email: johnh@mpce.mq.edu.au, Ph: +61 2 805 8959, Fax: +61 2 805 8983 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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In <C50sMA.3GK@voder.nsc.com> matt@galaxy.nsc.com (Matt Freivald x8043) writes: >In article 164871 in talk.politics.misc, margoli@watson.ibm.com >(Larry Margolis) writes: > >>>I would suggest that legal precedent defines a human being (i.e., a person >>>whose rights are protected by the Constitution and the law) as someone with >>>a functioning brain. > >>No, if you want to use legal precedent, you should take a look at the >>Model Penal Code, on which many states base their criminal code: > >My apologies if I was unclear; I was not trying to start a statutory >debate, since there are many (in some cases conflicting) statutes on >the books. I was merely suggesting a paradigm that might make sense >for a pro-choicer IMHO. And I was pointing out that legal precedent defines a human being as referring only to the born, so your suggestion was incorrect. >>>If at some point an unborn child is a human being, the parents clearly >>>have the same responsibilities toward her as any other parents have toward >>>their children. > >>And no parent can be forced to supply bodily resources toward their children, >>even if necessary to save the child's life. > >There is a confusion here between action and inaction: a parent does not have >to run out in front of a bus to save their child's life either, but a parent >IS required to feed his children. There is a confusion here about what "bodily resources" constitutes. Blood transfusions and organ donations involve bodily resources; your examples do not. -- Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
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waldo@cybernet.cse.fau.edu writes: > ab4z@Virginia.EDU ("Andi Beyer") writes: > > > waldo@cybernet.cse.fau.edu writes: > > > ab4z@Virginia.EDU ("Andi Beyer") writes: > > > > > > > First of all I never said the Holocaust. I said before the > > > > Holocaust. I'm not ignorant of the Holocaust and know more > > > > about Nazi Germany than most people (maybe including you). > > > > > > Uh Oh! The first sign of an argument without merit--the stating of one's > > > "qualifications" in an area. If you know something about Nazi Germany, > > > show it. If you don't, shut up. Simple as that. > > > > > > > I don't think the suffering of some Jews during WWII > > > > justifies the crimes commited by the Israeli government. Any > > > > attempt to call Civil liberterians like myself anti-semetic is > > > > not appreciated. > > > > > > ALL Jews suffered during WWII, not just our beloved who perished or were > > > tortured. We ALL suffered. Second, the name-calling was directed against > > > YOU, not civil-libertarians in general. Your name-dropping of a fancy > > > sounding political term is yet another attempt to "cite qualifications" > > > in order to obfuscate your glaring unpreparedness for this argument. Go > > > back to the minors, junior. > > All humans suffered emotionally, some Jews and many > > others suffered physically. It is sad that people like you are > > so blinded by emotions that they can't see the facts. Thanks > > for calling me names, it only assures me of what kind of > > ignorant people I am dealing with. I included your letter since > > I thought it demonstrated my point more than anything I could > > write. > > ----- > When you're willing to actually support something you say with fact or > argument rather than covering up your own inadequacies with feigned > offense, let me know. Otherwise, back to your own league, son. I have never seen such immaturity among semitophiles. This Andi Beyer character shows no signs of anti semitism, yet because he deviates from the norm of accepted opinion, you attack him. Why did not anyone venture to answer Andi's question in an intelligent and unoffending manner? The only ones guilty here of not backing up there viewpoints with fact are the Israelophiles. Now will we please start having some INTELLIGENT conversation? You all are an insult to you race! {assuming you are also semitic} Now I have a comment concerning Israeli terrorism during the 1930's and 1940's. The Hirgun, and other branch - off militant groups, did fight the British do get them out of Palestine. Yet I fail to see how this Israeli form of terrorism was better than the terrorism practiced now by the Arabs. These Jewish terrorist groups killed innocent British soldiers, but not only thta also killed many Jews who were in favor of a compromise with the Palestinians. In addition, they massacred an entire Palestinian village in 1948, contributing to the exodus of the frightened Palestinians who feared their very lives. I mention this not because I'm anti semitic [I'm part Jewish] but because this self righteousness on the part of the Israelites pisses me off so. I'm not as critical of the Palestinians because they were indeed screwed over by the Jews. It 's a damn shame that the Palestinians had to pay for German and European anti semitism. Pissed off at Immature, Closeminded, Self righteous Semites
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In article <Ny+0rA6ABh107h@eosvcr.wimsey.bc.ca> aew@eosvcr.wimsey.bc.ca writes: >I would be very appreciative if someone would answer a few >questions about Windows for Workgroups. > >I currently have Novell Netware Lite which does not work with >Windows very well and is a conventional memory hog (ver. 1.1). >I am considering moving all our machines to W4WG. > >Q1: How much conventional ram does W4WG use over and above the > driver for the network card? I have just checked it and you have three files that are loaded: PROTMAN : 128 Bytes DRIVER : 9072 Bytes WORKGRP : 4416 Bytes > >Q2: If I have a Novell NE2000 card, are the LSL and IPX drivers > still needed? No W4WG uses it's own drivers. > >Q3: Does W4WG do a license check over the network to ensure each > machine is running its own licenced copy of W4WG? (Note: I do > not want to break the license agreement and I will buy a copy > of W4WG for each of our machines, it is just that I would like > to try it out first to see if it meets our needs. Returning one > opened copy is much easier than returning N opened copies.) Not that I know of, I bought two copies, had some problems with one installed both from the same copie, no problems. Do worry I just had a really old BIOS and that's the only problem I got. > >Q4: If you buy the upgrade to Windows 3.1 for W4WG does it replace > all of Win 3.1 as you install it or does it depend on current > Win 3.1 files? It will replace all older files (I think) and prompt you for the others. > >Q5: If I install Windows NT on my server when it comes out, will I have > any troubles with the W4WG machines? This I do not know... > >When I started this message, I was going to ask only 2 questions but I got carried >away. I'll stop now ;-). > >I look forward to your replies. > >Al Hope this helps GEL
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In article <pledgeC646Fu.MuE@netcom.com> pledge@netcom.com (Alan McLachlan) writes: >Xircom Pocket Ethernet Adapter >Connects any PC with a parallel port to the network > >Make offer > Note: The device has never been used (IE: still in plastic) and is 10baseT -- .sig under construction -- send suggestions to pledge@netcom.com
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moffatt@bnr.ca (John Thomson) writes: }Out of what hat did you pull this one? dB is a ratio not an RBOC! } [...] }Sorry. The unit for current is the AMPERE which is the name of a french-man }named AMPERE who studied electrical current. The term AMP is just an abbreviation }of it. The company AMP came after the AMPERE unit was already in use. } [...] }I don't know about this one, but it doesn't sound right. } [...] }Well you got one thing right! Hello? John? Oh, nevermind... Jeff -- Jeffrey S. Curtis sidewinder@uiuc.edu | "Resplendent in full regalia, they The Power of 37 free2207 at uiucvmd | revel in their role as self-appointed Sony - Phase Linear - Sanyo - Sennet | critics of the establishment..." Jensen - Polk - StreetWires - Proton | -- INXS _Welcome to Wherever You Are_
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Has anyone found a fix for the following problem? Client Software: SunOs 4.1.1, X11R5 Server Hardware: Sun IPC Server Software: SunOs 4.1.1, Open Windows 3.0 (w/ patch 100444-37) A Motif 1.2.2 application will periodically hang when run against the OpenWindows 3.0 server (xnews). The pulldown is displayed but then no button actions have any effect. Sometimes pressing <Return> will unstick the application but not usually. It looks like the pulldown is grabbing the focus and never letting go. Other windows on the display continue to get updated so the server isn't hanging. If I log in from another terminal and kill the Motif application then everything gets back to normal. The same application when run against other X servers (including MIT X11R5 Xsun, DecWindows, Tektronix X terminal) has no problems. This is obviously a OpenWindows problem but I need a work-around since most of our customers are OpenWindows users. I have tried the following things: 1. Installing the latest version of the OpenWindows server patch (100444-37). 2. Using mwm (version 1.2.2) instead of olwm. 3. Applying the patch specified in the Motif FAQ (question 110). This had the effect of disabling the point-and-click method of menu interaction (as opposed to the click-and-drag method), and screwing up the menu mnemonics keys. It did seem to help, but I was still able to get the application to hang. Repeat By: This is an intermittent problem so you'll have to try several times. Click and release on a menu heading (pulldown menu will pop up) Click and release on a menu item Repeat until application hangs Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Skip Koppenhaver skip@eco.twg.com
5comp.windows.x
Is there a version of Wcl that has been ported to Solaris 2, including ANSI C? I had numerous problems trying to compile Wcl under Solaris, and the functions do not have prototypes. I have Wcl 2.01 from the Sun User Group's 1992 CDs. Please email answers as I am not on this list. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Tulinsky Capital Management Sciences West Los Angeles 310 479 9715 MANUALLY ADDRESS answers to: zuma!tom@netcomsv.netcom.com
5comp.windows.x
In article <9304141620.AA01443@dangermouse.mitre.org>, jmeritt@mental.mitre.org writes: |> Leviticus 21:9 |> And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the |> whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire. |> |> Deuteronomy 22:20-21 |> ...and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: then they shall |> bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of the |> city shall stone her with stones that she die... |> |> Deuteronomy 22:22 |> If a man be found lying with a woman married to a husband, then they shall |> both of them die... |> |> Deuteronomy 22:23-24 |> If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto a husband, and a man find her |> in the city, and lie with her; then ye shall bring them both out unto the |> gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die... |> |> Deuteronomy 22:25 |> BUT if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, |> and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die. These laws written for the Israelites, God's chosen people whom God had expressly set apart from the rest of the world. The Israelites were a direct witness to God's existence. To disobey God after KNOWing that God is real would be an outright denial of God and therefore immediately punishable. Remember, these laws were written for a different time and applied only to God's chosen people. But Jesus has changed all of that. We are living in the age of grace. Sin is no longer immediately punishable by death. There is repentance and there is salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. And not just for a few chosen people. Salvation is available to everyone, Jew and Gentile alike. God be with you, Malcolm Lee :)
19talk.religion.misc
In article <bissda.4.734849678@saturn.wwc.edu>, bissda@saturn.wwc.edu (DAN LAWRENCE BISSELL) wrote: > > First I want to start right out and say that I'm a Christian. It > makes sense to be one. Have any of you read Tony Campollo's book- liar, > lunatic, or the real thing? (I might be a little off on the title, but he > writes the book. Anyway he was part of an effort to destroy Christianity, > in the process he became a Christian himself. Seems he didn't understand anything about realities, liar, lunatic or the real thing is a very narrow view of the possibilities of Jesus message. Sigh, it seems religion makes your mind/brain filter out anything that does not fit into your personal scheme. So anyone that thinks the possibilities with Jesus is bound to the classical Lewis notion of 'liar, lunatic or saint' is indeed bound to become a Christian. Cheers, Kent --- sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.
0alt.atheism
In article <1993Apr23.103038.27467@bnr.ca>, agc@bmdhh286.bnr.ca (Alan Carter) writes... >In article <22APR199323003578@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov>, baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke) writes: >|> 3. On April 19, a NO-OP command was sent to reset the command loss timer to >|> 264 hours, its planned value during this mission phase. > >This activity is regularly reported in Ron's interesting posts. Could >someone explain what the Command Loss Timer is? > The Command Loss Timer is part of the fault protection scheme of the spacecraft. If the Command Loss Timer ever countdowns to zero, then the spacecraft assumes it has lost communications with Earth and will go through a set of predetermined steps to try to regain contact. The Command Loss Timer is set to 264 hours and reset about once a week during the cruise phase, and is set to a lower value during an encounter phase. ___ _____ ___ /_ /| /____/ \ /_ /| Ron Baalke | baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov | | | | __ \ /| | | | Jet Propulsion Lab | ___| | | | |__) |/ | | |__ M/S 525-3684 Telos | The aweto from New Zealand /___| | | | ___/ | |/__ /| Pasadena, CA 91109 | is part caterpillar and |_____|/ |_|/ |_____|/ | part vegetable.
14sci.space
boyle@cactus.org (Craig Boyle) writes: >The quality of autobahns is something of a myth. The road surface >isn't much different to a typical TX freeway. They are better >in terms of lighting, safety, signs, roadmarkings etc. They light the highways in Texas? Funny, everywhere else I've been they only light 'em at junctions. I won't even get into how much road markings vary between states and localities except to say that there are some areas where markings are essentially nonexistant. >>than most of the roads here. A dip in the asphalt that you test your >>shocks on at 60 will kill you at 130. Don't get me wrong, I love to >It would have to be quite severe. I don't recall any US freeway, >without road damage warnings, that i would regard as unsafe >at 130 in any decent, well damped car. I suspect you have very limited experience -- US freeways vary dramatically, particularly between states. I can name a number of interstate highways in various parts of the country where 130 would be very optimistic in any car. I'm not sure what you call "quite severe" in terms of road deviations but I suspect every single bridge junction on I84 through CT would be considered so. They're hard to take at 85mph. That's not the only interstate I've seen with such deviations, but it's one I drive frequently. Texas is pretty much an edge-case -- you can't assume that everywhere has roads in such good condition, such flat terrain, and such wide-open spaces. It just ain't so. jim frost jimf@centerline.com
7rec.autos
Hi, any body has experience with the Ultrastor UltraSCSI driver package? I also need the phone number for Ultrastor (it's not in the book) and i cannot find them in the company listing in Computer Shopper. Thanks in advance tony kwong (908) 699-4130
3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
In article <1993Apr26.174819.13707@starbase.trincoll.edu> () writes: > >> > People like you cheapen our constitution by using it to defend sociopaths >> > who aren't deserved of it. Get a life and chill on the paranoia. >> > > >I don't care about *cults*. There's no language problem here. My problem is >with religious fanatics (claiming to be God is just a *little bit* >unsettling) stockpiling several years' supply of canned foods No crime here. > and enough >weapons to hold off a company No crime here. > (not to mention the ATF, which %&^#ed up in >the first place) and talking about how they're going to "take care" of all >of the "unbelievers." No crime here. Also no substantiation of your claim that Koresh said this. I for one have never heard this mentioned before. Where did you hear it? > But granted, up to that moment, he'd done nothing >wrong. I recognize and respect that. Up to which moment? The one where you decided that anyone who claims to be God no longer has the protection of the Constitution? What happened to the separation of church and state? >Then the ATF discovers he doesn't have proper permits for some of his >purchases and failed to pay some taxes on them. I have yet to see any evidence of *this*, either. From what I hear the *original* warrant (the reason for the Feb. raid) is still sealed. What are "unsealed" seem to be warrants taken out after the initial raid. >Then several parents come forward and demand that previous charges of child >abuse be refiled. There have been interviews with some parents whose >children were in the compound at some point. Funny, I haven't seen any of these "interviews." Interesting that when the social services agencies investigated Koresh on these previous charges, they found absolutely no evidence of abuse. > These parents claimed >psychological and sexual abuse. The childrens' statements supported these >charges. Funny, I don't remember hearing anything about childrens' statements, either. Where did you say you heard all this? What *I* heard was that none of the children who left the compound early in the seige exhibited any signs typical of abuse, physical or mental. This from the newspaper and national TV news. Did you also hear that it's the job of the BATF and the FBI to lay siege to homes where child abuse is suspected? I thought you did. >Was it a 'no-knock?' I really haven't heard anything on that. But clearly >he was not just another guy minding his own business. "Clearly?" Please tell us what Koresh was doing that can be construed as other than "minding his own business" before the BATF raided the place. > Hell, give them all >the guns in the world if they don't bother anyone. But he was a scary sort, >don't you think? The sort of person you'd want your daughter to date? I >didn't think so. Reason number one to doubt the legal statements made by >some of the survivors. Your logic just amazes me. I think your grandparents who died in Auschwitz would be turning over in their graves if they could hear how cavalierly you throw away people's protection of law because you think they're "scary" and "not the sort of person you'd want your daughter to date." What sort of people do you suppose the Nazis thought your grandparents were? Probably not the sort they'd want their little frauleins dating... > (Note that some of them were made by his 'guard,' >well-[hesitate to say expertly] trained killers). And next I suppose you'll tell us exactly WHO these "well-trained killers" have killed? >Then he fired on the ATF. That's not just a little mistake, or some >red-white-and blue American defending his home against Big Brother. That >shit doesn't fly. Because you said so, right? Right. > Anyone with his background that will shoot and kill >Federal Law Enforcement officials is not some good citizen whose crusade >enjoys our support. So someone with a different background, say someone who didn't claim to be the Messiah, in your book COULD shoot and kill Federal Law Enforcement officials WOULD be a good citizen whose crusade enjoys our support? > He's a loose cannon. Just my opinion... Worth the paper it's printed on. You're amazing, simply amazing. -joe
16talk.politics.guns
I'm not familiar at all with the format of these "X-Face:" thingies, but after seeing them in some folks' headers, I've *got* to *see* them (and maybe make one of my own)! I've got "dpg-view" on my Linux box (which displays "uncompressed X-Faces") and I've managed to compile [un]compface too... but now that I'm *looking* for them, I can't seem to find any X-Face:'s in anyones news headers! :-( Could you, would you, please send me your "X-Face:" header? I *know* I'll probably get a little swamped, but I can handle it. ...I hope. Rick Miller <rick@ee.uwm.edu> | <ricxjo@discus.mil.wi.us> Ricxjo Muelisto Send a postcard, get one back! | Enposxtigu bildkarton kaj vi ricevos alion! RICK MILLER // 16203 WOODS // MUSKEGO, WIS. 53150 // USA
5comp.windows.x
I Love it how all of these people are "blaming" the Phillies success on a weak division. Why don't we look at the record of the teams in each division (READ: Inter-Divisional Play), we'll see that the East is really kicking the shit out of the West. I know it is early, but that is all we have to go on. Atlanta is just so strong with their .188 BA, Cincinnati is 2-7 coming off a sweep at Veteran's Stadium in Philadelphia, and Houston was swept in it's first three games by the Phillies in the Astrodome. That, my Western Division friends, shows that the three best teams in your division may not be as strong as you think!! PHILS ALL THE WAY IN '93 BRAVES HIT LIKE A AAA CLUB REDS NEED MARGE -BOB
9rec.sport.baseball
In article <1993Apr14.184444.24065@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jkis_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Da' Beave) writes: > >Well folks, I currently have a yeast infection. I am male. >[...] your best bet (or at least your husband's) >is to treat and cure your infection before any intercourse. If you must, use >a condom. Also, consider other forms of sexual release (ie. handjobs) until >you are cured. Though I can't imagine WANTING to have intercourse during a full-blown yeast infection :-) chances of it being transmitted to the male are quite low, especially if he's circumcised. But it can happen. At one point I was getting recurrent yeast infections and the Dr suspected my boyfriend might have gotten it from me and be reinfecting me. The prescription was interesting. For each day of the medication (a week) I was to insert the medication, then to have intercourse. The resulting action would help the medicine be spread around in me better, and would simultaneously treat him.
13sci.med
John Elson (jelson@rcnext.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote: : Has anyone ever heard of a food product called "Space Food Sticks?" I remember those awful things. They were dry and crumbly, and I recall asking my third-grade teacher, Miss G'Francisco, how they kept the crumbs from floating around in zero-G. She had no clue. I have not seen anything like them in today's space program. Some Apollo technology is best forgotten. -- Ken Jenks, NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov (713) 483-4368 "HERE MEN FROM THE PLANET EARTH FIRST SET FOOT UPON THE MOON JULY 1969, A.D. WE CAME IN PEACE FOR ALL MANKIND."
14sci.space
mathew (mathew@mantis.co.uk) wrote: > What is the difference between a "_chemist_" and someone who is taught > Chemistry at, say, Cambridge University? Put like this, I can't answer. I was originally pointing out that your attitude _seemed to be_ (I don't know if it really was) that chemists tend to ignore all kinds of effects; your original posting stated that when doing chemistry, it is common to ignore atomic interactions, and I responded that this is exactly what chemists do. > Has there been some revolution in teaching methods in the last four years? Perhaps this revolution has yet to reach Cambridge (my, now I'll get flamed for sure;-) ). But perhaps I am guilty of referring to "true chemists" (tm) which are nothing but my ideal, and do not actually exist. Chemistry is a very easy subject to treat poorly. > Perhaps the confusion comes from the fact that I was thinking of organic > chemistry, whereas you were thinking of physical chemistry. No, actually organic chemists were among the first chemists to use modern MO theories for explaining reactions that did not fit into the old models. In synthetic organic chemistry, which still comprises a large part of organic chemistry, it is indeed common to ignore the rest of the molecule and pay attention only to the functional groups, but I think this, too, has changed with the advent of molecular modelling and asymmetric synthesis. Supramolecular interactions _can_ be taken into account, albeit with difficulty. Petri -- ___. .'*''.* Petri Pihko kem-pmp@ Mathematics is the Truth. !___.'* '.'*' ' . Pihatie 15 C finou.oulu.fi Physics is the Rule of ' *' .* '* SF-90650 OULU kempmp@ the Game. *' * .* FINLAND phoenix.oulu.fi -> Chemistry is The Game.
0alt.atheism
I am interested in any information on stereoscopic imaging on a sun workstation. For the most part, I need to know if there is any hardware available to interface the system and whether the refresh rates are sufficient to produce quality image representations. Any information about the subject would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
1comp.graphics
In article <yadalle.735582909@cab117> yadalle@cs.UAlberta.CA (Yadallee Dave S) writes: >Here's one from the mill. The Oilers MIGHT move to Hamilton >where Porklington can get a free deal. > >Given what Labour relations and Puck has been like, it WOULD be a sigh of relief. > I heard yesterday that Pocklington was talking with folks at Copps that afternoon (yesterday). -- Valerie Hammerl John Sr. would lift Pat over the boards, grab hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu his hand, and start running around the outside, V085PWPZ@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU faster and faster. "I wanted to learn how to get that feeling, and the only way was to learn how to skate." P. LaFontaine
10rec.sport.hockey
In article <May.11.02.37.07.1993.28120@athos.rutgers.edu>, dan@ingres.com (a Rose arose) writes: |> In the Monday, May 10 morning edition of the San Jose Mercury News an |> article by Sandra Gonzales at the top of page 12A explained convicted |> killer David Edwin Mason's troubled childhood saying, |> |> "Raised in Oakland and San Lorenzo by strict fundamentalist |> Christian parents, Mason was beaten as a child. ... |> [other instances of child abuse deleted] |> |> Were the San Jose Mercury news to come out with an article starting with |> "Raised in Oakland by Mexican parents, Mason was beaten...", my face would |> be red with anger over the injustice done to my Mexican family members and |> the Mexican community as a whole. ... |> |> Why is it that open biggotry like this is practiced and encouraged by the |> San Jose Mercury News when it is pointed at the christian community? Perhaps because there is a connection here that is not there in the Mexican variant you bring up. That is, many (not all) extreme fundamentalist Christians use the excuse of teaching their children Biblical morality to justify this sort of mistreatment. I do not see many Mexicans using their Mexican heritage as an excuse for abuse. It is indeed this judgemental, controlling legalism of many fundamentalist Christians that has led me to reject that branch of our faith as not true to the Gospel of Christ, the gospel of love. I have seen this sort of thing too often, even amoung my own relatives, to believe there is no relationship. Judgementalism often leads to overly strict, and thus abusive, discipline of children. [This is not restricted to just Christian fundamentalism, it is found in many extreme sects of other legalistic religions]. |> Can a good christian continue to purchase newspapers and buy advertising in |> this kind of a newspaper? This is really bad journalism. |> I, too, am a Christian. But I do not condone the use of the Bible to justify this sort of abuse. I believe that it is only by exposing the horrors of the misapplication of the Biblical concept of discipline that such abuses can be stopped. Just because someone is also a Christian does not mean we must identify eith them. This sort of sin needs to be made public. -- sarima@teradata.com (formerly tdatirv!sarima) or Stanley.Friesen@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com
15soc.religion.christian
In article <x!fvt=b@dixie.com>, jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes: |> hhtra@usho72.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock) writes: |> |> |> > While taking an extended Easter vacation, I was going north on I-45 |> > somewhere between Centerville, TX and Dallas, TX and I came upon a |> > train parked on a trestle with its locomotive sitting directly over |> > the northbound lanes. There appeared to be movement within the cab |> > and out of curiosity I slowed to 85 to get a better look. Just as I |> > passed from underneath the trestle, my radar detector went into full |> > alert - all lights lit and all chirps, beeps, and buzzes going strong. |> > I thought I had been nailed good but no police materialized. |> |> Some, but not all, locomotives have doppler speedometers. The radar head is |> mounted looking down at the ground (to minimize intereference sent and |> received) but looking tangentally at a wheel. These are low power units |> and typically won't trigger radar detectors unless an unusual situation |> such as yours arises. |> |> John |> |> -- |> John De Armond, WD4OQC |Interested in high performance mobility? |> Performance Engineering Magazine(TM) | Interested in high tech and computers? |> Marietta, Ga | Send ur snail-mail address to |> jgd@dixie.com | perform@dixie.com for a free sample mag |> Need Usenet public Access in Atlanta? Write Me for info on Dixie.com. This makes sense(radar pointed down), because almost every train I pass head-on that triggers my radar detector does so more just after I have passed the front of the engine. I get a little of the reflections as I am approaching and the instant I get to the side of the first engine the detector receives a fairly strong signal for a short time. It happens with just about EVERY train I see.
7rec.autos
In article <1993Apr20.101306.21536@def.bae.co.uk>, paul@def.bae.co.uk (Paul Byrne) writes: |> Can someone please give me some pointers to setting up imake in a SUN |> OPENWINDOWS |> enviornment ? I've checked through all the documentation but can not |> find any clues. Sun's OpenWindows imake is broken. I suggest installing imake-pure, MIT's X11R5 imake. You can get it from ftp.germany.eu.net in file /pub/X11/misc/imake/imake-pure.tar.Z (117807 Byte). -- Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute I R B : immer richtig beraten Univ. Dortmund, IRB Postfach 500500 |)|/ Tel.: +49 231 755-4663 D-W4600 Dortmund 50 |\|\ Fax : +49 231 755-2386 new address after June 30th: Univ. Dortmund, D-44221 Dortmund
5comp.windows.x
From article <Apr.15.00.58.22.1993.28891@athos.rutgers.edu>, by ruthless@panix.com (Ruth Ditucci): > Coming from a long line of "hot tempered" people, I know temper when I see > it. One of the tell tale signs/fruits that give non-christians away - is > when their net replies are acrid, angry and sarcastic. I do hope that you are not suggesting that merely because a person replies in an "acrid, angry and sarcastic" manner that this demonstrates their 'non-christianity'? The simple fact is that there is not a Christian on the face of the planet (that I know of!) that is perfect. I have been known at times to have a fit of temper, or a sulk, but this does not make me any the less a Christian. One of the points of being a Christian (as I perceive it) is to become MORE LIKE Christ. This statement inherently suggests that we ARE NOT already like Christ. Jesus never unrighteously lost his temper. I do. Jesus was perfect. I'm not. > We in the net village do have a laugh or two when professed, born again > christians verbally attack people who might otherwise have been won to > christianity and had originally joined the discussions because they were > "spiritually hungry." Instead of answering questions with sweetness and > sincerity, these chrisitan net-warriors, "flame" the queries. You must understand that this is because Christians often forget to treat others as our role-model - Christ - would. This is because we are human and falible. I, for one, do not pretend to be infalible, and I hope that my fellow-men will bear with me when I make mistakes. This surely is not too much to ask, when I make every effort to bear with _them_. > You don't need any enemies. You already do yourselves the greatest harm. And don't we know it! > Again I say, foolish, foolish, foolish. Again I say, we are ALL human! To my brethren, this: Ms Duticci has a valid point and we as Christians ought to heed the warning in her article. We oftimes discredit ourselves and our Saviour, in the way that we treat others. Strive towards the goal set us by our Lord, but in the meantime, remember : "There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ..." When you blow it - go easy on yourself. Forgive yourself, as your Father in heaven forgives you! And remember - and this is something I firmly beieve and cling to - one day, we shall see Him face to face, and in that day, we shall (finally!) be perfected. I look forward to seeing you there. RRRRR OO BBBBB : R R OO OO B B : R R OO OO B BB : Robert Pomeroy R RR O O B B : RRRR O O BBBBB : u2i02@teach.cs.keele.ac.uk R R O O B B : R R OO OO B BB : 1993 R R OO OO B B : R R OO BBBBB : PS If you want to draw anything to my attention, then please mail me direct, because I don't often read the news... PPS If I have offended anyone with this article, I beg your forgiveness, in advance!
15soc.religion.christian
In article <RN652B5w165w@tweekco.uucp>, alizard@tweekco.uucp (A.Lizard) wrote: > Judging from postings I've read all over Usenet and on non-Usenet > BBs conferences, Barney is DEFINITELY an endangered species. Especially > if he runs into me in a dark alley. Please, please don't make Barney to a modern martyr/saviour mythical figure. I detest this being, and if humans will create a religion in his name, then life will be unbearable :-). Cheers, Kent --- sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.
19talk.religion.misc
>>The two situations are hardly analogous, unless you wish to make the >>>dubious claim that the US legal system would provide equivalent treatment >>>to BD children that the Romans did for those of conquered rebels. >Actually, all the analogy calls for the the Branch Davidian _feeling_ >their treatment would be along these lines. After a military >assualt (instead of a peacefull effort to serve a warrant) and >weeks os siege, such a feeling might not be completely irrational. Actually, if I were one of the survivors and wanted to institute a civil rights violation lawsuit against the Treasury Dept., I would claim that the BATF/FBI itself was to blame for any mass hysteria/insanity... without due process, the siegers shone lights, laser beams, multi-colored spotlights, all the while playing loudly amplified music consisting of everything from Tibetan Chant to Heavy Metal, and coupled with the fear, the poor nutrition, the rampant paranoia, I'd say it was very likely those poor nuts were made even nuttier. After all, isn't sleep deprivation, sensory overload, etc., part of the "new age" method of torture?
16talk.politics.guns
Derek.... There is a tool available to reset the service indicator on BMWs but the lights will come back on after 2-3 weeks. The tool is in fact illegal (in Europe atleast). It is often the case that the unsuspecting punter trots off to buy a used BMW and a few weeks later, all the lights come on! Other than that, I know of no other tool.... anyone else? About changing oil every 15,000 miles.... thats ok.... on newer Audis, they only require it after every 12,000 miles (I am talking about an oil change) Just a query: do you drive your car VERY VERY carefully? Like no sudden acceleration etc? If yeah, then the 15,000 M oil change seems quite reasonable. But if you drive kinda fast... I'd get a bit up tight abot that 15,000 thingy (a point to note: just because the first light came on at 3k, doesn't mean all the others will come on every 3k too) ....Shaz....
7rec.autos
tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu writes: OB> In article <1993Apr28.143720.9580@Virginia.EDU> ab4z@Virginia.EDU ("Andi Beyer") writes: > >adam@endor.uucp writes: > >> In article <1993Apr25.181351.1373@Virginia.EDU> ab4z@Virginia.EDU ("Andi Beyer") writes: > >> > >> > The UN has tried many times to condemn Israel for its > >> >gross violation of human rights. > >> > >> The UN has also failed to condemn gross violations of human > >> rights in many other places around the globe and in the middle east, > >> thus leading many people to conclude that the UN is biased in whom in > >> chooses to condemn. > >> > >> A short, incomplete list of things the UN didn't even consider > >> condemning: > >> > >> > >> Incident Security Council Response > >> ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> 2. Gassing to death of over 8,000 Kurds by NONE > >> Iraqi Air Force, 1988-89 > >> 6. 30,000 civilians slaughtered by government NONE > >> troops in Hama, Syria, 1982 > >> 7. Killing of 5,000 Palestinians by Jordanian troops, NONE > >> thousands expelled, Sept., 1970 > >> 14. Syria kills 23,000 Palestinians, 1976 NONE > >> 16. Yemen: 13,000 killed in two weeks, 1986 NONE > >> 17. Sudan: Tens of thousands of Black slaves, NONE > >> Civil War toll, 1 million killed, 3 million refugees > >> 19. Rumania, 3,000 killed, 1989 NONE > >> 21. Northern Ireland NONE > >> 22. Cambodia (the killing fields, 1-2 million murdered) NONE > >> 27. Syrian soldiers slaughter Christian soldiers NONE > >> after they surrender, 1990 > >> > >> Adam Shostack adam@das.harvard.edu > >> > > Wow, if you were the only source of news around the > >world it would seem that Israel is being treated unfairly. > >luckily, that is not the case. I suggest reading european > >papers rather than Israeli propaganda (Arab papers wouldn't > >hurt either to see the propaganda of the other side). Anyway > >you are an example of what happens when people chose what to > >read. Don't get me wrong, it is perfectly within your rights. > >Just don't go off acting like you're objective. > > I'm unclear here. Are you saying that these events DID NOT occurr? > As you know, the UN neither condemned nor expressed outrage *at any* > of the events listed (I retained those that reflected "policies" > of murder and abuse). Is that an irrelevent fact to you? > > While I *do* expect Israel's abusive policies to be condemned > where appropriate, are you saying that you do not notice any > degree of "selective morality" on the UN's part? Do you also > find it convenient (and easy) to blithely ignor particular abhorrant > acts simply because the perpetrators don't happen to be on your > "bad guys" list? > > > -- > Tim Clock Ph.D./Graduate student > UCI tel#: 714,8565361 Department of Politics and Society > fax#: 714,8568441 University of California - Irvine > Home tel#: 714,8563446 Irvine, CA 92717 I have to say I think this is the first time there has been something posted that opposed me without making personal insults. Congradulations tim. I think the other people answered you on most of the factual parts(esp. about the internal conflicts policy). Israel very often gets away with more than most other nations (Due to U.S. vetos). While I am not familiar with every instance I know that the reason Saudi Arabia was not condemned for killig the pilgrims was that the pilgrims were iranian. Yes, the UN is biased but mostly in favor of the US and its allies (Including Israel, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan) and against "Outlaw" countries like iran and more recently Iraq. Far be it from me to support the repressive governments there but I think they get more slack than Israel for things they do "wrong". Again the reason some condemnations don't occur lies in the race or country of the victims. The gassed Iraqi kurds got associated with Iran in the war and since Iran was perceived as worse than Iraq no condemnation resulted. The palestinians killed by arab countries involved another case of who cares. It seems that until very recently no one cared about how many palestinians died anywhere (including in Israel and the occupied territories). Again I appreciate the lack of personal insults.
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Someone mentioned a while ago that the Duos were scheduled for a 10-18% price reduction, according to 'newsbytes'. Is this definite? Does anyone know when it will take effect? And what is 'newsbytes'? Thanks. -- Cam Daly Phone: (617) 225-7880 22F1 Internet: cam@athena.mit.edu 550 Memorial Dr "He who fights and runs away, Cambridge MA 02139 lives to nuke the site from orbit"
4comp.sys.mac.hardware
In article <strnlghtC5wHo2.1FK@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes: >I wouldn't think so. Asking people to trust a secret algorithm seems >unsound to me. Maybe so, but it's quite common. There are millions of Macintosh users who have no idea what's in Apple's patented ROMs. Many have modems connected. How do you know all your business secrets aren't being stolen? Answer: 1. Because you trust Apple; 2. Because if any such attempt, however sophicsticated, came out, it would destroy Apple's credibility forever. Then there's also 3) Because it's NOT SECRET. If I want to, I CAN go look at Apple's copyrighted ROMs in a Mac, so they're not keeping any secrets. You don't even have to pry the top off the chip and use an electron microscope, you just have to read the data in memory and see if you can figure out what it means. (Motorola object code isn't all *that* obscure!) Yes, it's copyrighted, so I can't go selling copies, or using the copy myself, but I CAN see it, and disassemble it. 4) They're not asking me to trust their honesty. They're asking me to trust the quality of their assembly language programming :-), but I can see for myself what the performance, price, and crashes/day are. NSA, an organization not known for its honesty or openness, is asking me to trust them with my privacy, but they won't trust me. Feh! -- # Pray for peace; Bill # Bill Stewart 1-908-949-0705 wcs@anchor.att.com AT&T Bell Labs 4M312 Holmdel NJ # No, I'm *from* New Jersey, I only *work* in cyberspace.... # White House Commect Line 1-202-456-1111 fax 1-202-456-2461
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My last response in this thread fell into a bit-bucket and vanished (though appearing locally). I'll repost it, since I always feel slighted when someone appears to ignore one of my postings in a conversational thread, I don't want Rob to think I'm doing so. Since this is now dated, however, don't feel compelled to respond... In article <1993Apr08.174942.45124@watson.ibm.com> strom@Watson.Ibm.Com (Rob Strom) writes: >I was making two separate points, both of which attack >"face value" Bible interpretation: > >(1) To judge the Bible's value today, you judge it based on > the way it is used today. That is, what do commentators > actually say, what do rabbis teach, etc. I suspect you meant this in context of the Jewish tradition you have been referring to; one problem with a highly-interpreted tradition like this is what happens when a schism occurs, and over time certain large and influential branches of the heretical group come to favor exactly a "face value" interpretation... >(2) To judge the Bible's value when originally written, > you (a) read it in the context of its time (not > with today's assumptions), and (b) compare it to > the practices of surrounding people. While the context of the time is important, value judgments must ultimately be according to current understanding, or at least to some base standard (relative stability/success of a society, e.g.). This is obviously true in comparing it to practices of surrounding people, for instance: according to the Bible, the surrounding people were immoral savages with repulsive and inhuman habits. We need to look rather at what those peoples were *really* like. For instance, in what way is it better to worship a single god whose presence is symbolically strongest in a tent or temple over multiple gods some of whose presence is symbolically represented in a statue? By the Bible's own terms idolatry is inherently evil, but I see no evidence that the followers of the various other religions of the area and time were particularly bad people, relative to the people in the Bible. >[...scissors and cloth...] Now in the past, our ancestors >did cut cloth with scissors, but they at least knew that >their inhumane neighbors cut it with their bare teeth, >so this was a relatively enlightened step forward from >their earlier barbarism, and made the transition to >modern civilized paper-cutting that much easier." Sounds good, but it presupposes teeth-rending neighbors, which I see no support for. One can argue that post-facto assertion of inhumane neighbors can be used to make moral points, but that doesn't mean that the actual neighbors really were inhuman. More to the point, such dehumanization of the people across the river or over the mountain, or even of a different people dwelling among us, is all too common. >|> That complex >|> and benign moral traditions have evolved based on particular mythic >|> interpretations of that history is interesting, but I still don't >|> think it fair to take that long tradition of interpretation and use it >|> to attack condemnation of the original history. Note that I'm speaking of historical interpretation here, for instance claiming that Hammurabi's "an eye for an eye" was primitive brutal retribution, while Moses' version was an enlightened benign fine (because the tradition has since interpreted the phrase that way). As of 3000 years ago or so, they probably both meant the same thing. >To be sure, I'm arguing from a parochial perspective. >I belong to this tiny tribe which has struggled against >overwhelming odds for survival as a distinct tribe, >and this book is the book of my tribe. The book commands >us to dedicate ourselves to study, to improve the >world, and to set an example as "a light to the nations". > >We've revered the book, and I think we've been successful: >as scientists, as artists and musicians, as leaders >in important humanitarian causes. It's hard for me to >separate the success of my people from the virtue >of our book. You'd have to argue that we'd have >done significantly better with a different book or with no book, >or that another tribe with a different book or >with no book has done significantly better. I don't belittle the accomplishments, particularly the intellectual ones, of the Jewish people. I have given up on trying to think by analogy, since I don't know of any other 'tribe' that is at all similar (the closest I can think of are the Romany, but I don't know enough about them to make a meaningful comparison). I think a tradition of reflective study, of flexible rather than dogmatic interpretation, is a good thing. I think that with such an attitude a case could be made that you could have done as well starting with a 1943 Captain America comic (or whatever the Babylonian equivalent would have been). -- Jim Perry perry@dsinc.com Decision Support, Inc., Matthews NC These are my opinions. For a nominal fee, they can be yours. -- Jim Perry perry@dsinc.com Decision Support, Inc., Matthews NC These are my opinions. For a nominal fee, they can be yours.
0alt.atheism
In article <23APR199307181084@utarlg.uta.edu> b645zaw@utarlg.uta.edu (Stephen Tice) writes: >Koresh Text from 3-02 (part 4 of 4) | Analysts' Notes jst/sdt >======================================== | ================================== >We made an agreement, with the ATF | D. ATF Promises >agents, that if they would allow me, to | >have national coverage with this tape, | >that I might give to the world a small | >minute... a small minute bit, of the | >information that I have tried so hard to | >share with people; that if I would do | >this, that all the people here at the | >facility ("compound" here, as y'all call | >it) will give ourselves over to the | >world, give ourselves out to you. And | >this is what I promised. And this is | >what we're going to keep. | And they kept their promise.
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Some reading from a recent interview trip ... waiting all day at O'Hare a month ago, waiting out the storm here in New York! The Price of the Phoenix; The Fate of the Phoenix; Memory Prime Take the package for $8, or in trade for a good used CD ... gld -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Je me souviens ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gary L. Dare > gld@columbia.EDU GO Winnipeg Jets GO!!! > gld@cunixc.BITNET Selanne + Domi ==> Stanley
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In article <1qi97dINNemh@phakt.usc.edu> wagner@phakt.usc.edu (Loren Wagner) writes: >In article <1993Apr14.123722.24506@bmw.mayo.edu> bergerson@mayo.edu writes: >> >>Maybe you would rather have Ron Davis back ???? :^) >> > >The truly amazing thing was how many years this bum was the closer for the >Twins. You'd have thought they could find *somebody* better. > >Don Daybell >wagner@usc.edu Going into the ninth with a 3 run lead, ...2 runs score...runners on first and second...RD throws, "there's a drive waaaaaayyyyyyy back, Puckett to the wall, leaps, He CAUGHT THE BALL!!!! WHAT A CATCH BY KIRBY!! TWINS WIN!" and RD gets the save. His line 1 IP, 2 walks, 2 hits, and one robbed home run... paul
9rec.sport.baseball
In article <May.7.01.09.04.1993.14501@athos.rutgers.edu>, easteee@wkuvx1.bitnet writes: > Hello all, > I have a question about Satan. I was taught a long time ago > that Satan was really an angel of God and was kicked out of heaven > because he challenged God's authority. The problem is, I cannot > find this in the Bible. Is it in the Bible? If not, where did it > originate? > Satan was one of God's highest ranking angels, like Uriel, Raphael, Michael, and Gabriel. In fact, his name was Satanel. He did challenge God's authority and got kicked out of heaven. A lot of the mythology of Satan (he lost the -el suffix when he fell) comes from the Book of Enoch and is not found in the bible. Read the Book of Enoch, available thru bookstores, or get the book called "Angels: an endangered species" (I think). -- Steven C. Salaris We're...a lot more dangerous than 2 Live Crew salaris@carcs1.wustl.edu and their stupid use of foul language because we have ideas. We have a philosophy. Geoff Tate -- Queensryche
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In article 29910@rtsg.mot.com, svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes: > >Well, as many a bored bike tourer can tell you, the way to steer >sans hans is to push your body off to the side you want to lean. Also known as, "leaning." >Say you want to turn left.... [severely confused rambling about the ground pushing...] >but the front wheel has trail. If the ground pushes the front wheel >toward the left at the contact patch, the trail will cause the >wheel to turn to the right. Hey, there we are. No-hands counter- >steering. Contersteering refers to pushing the inside handlebar to effect a lean. No-hands countersteering is an oxymoron. --- Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker, Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM |and I showed him a picture of you. I said, DoD #0111 (919)460-8302 |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!" (The Grateful Dead) --> |It seemed like the least I could do...
8rec.motorcycles
Michael Panayiotakis (louray@seas.gwu.edu) wrote: : In article <robertsa.735922084@unix2.tcd.ie> robertsa@unix2.tcd.ie (Andrew L. Roberts) writes: : >What exactly does the windows bitmap format look like? I mean, how is : >the data stored: width, height, no. of colours, bitmap data? I couldn't : >find anything in ths user manual, is there any other reference material : >which would give me this information? : Well, this is *only* a guess: If it goes by the "true" meaning of "bit : map", then it holds (x,y,c) where x pixel number in th ex-direction, y: : pixel-number in the y-dir, c: colour. Come on fellows! The format is quite plainly explained in the manuals. It's in the "Programmer's Reference, Volume 3: Messages, Structures, and Macros" (MSC-Dev.kit for 3.1, should be also in the Borland's manuals) pages 232-241 (depending what you need). First there is the BITMAPFILEHEADER-struct then the BITMAPINFO which contains the BITMAPINFOHEADER and the RGBQUAD and then the bitmap data. AND there is also a example among the example files (MS_SDK). Hope this helps.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ########################## | Yes, I do have some prior knowledge in this. ########################## | There is nothing dangerous in these dragons, #### / /// / | they are totally harmless... But my opinion #### / / / /// /// | is that kicking them might not be the right #### /// /// / / / /// / | way to test it. So shut up and RUN! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- pjsinc@sunrise.oulu.fi pjsinc@phoenix.oulu.fi pjsinc@tolsun.oulu.fi If it's possible that there are some opinions above, they must be all MINE.
2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
A word of warning for those of you registering for SIGGRAPH '93. I just received my registration form back in the mail with the envelope marked "Return to sender. Moved - Left No Address. Closed PO Box". The address I used to register for SIGGRAPH '93 is the one printed on the registration form: ACM SIGGRAPH '93 PO Box 95316, Chicago, IL 60694-5316 I printed the envelope in my best printing, honest but evidently SIGGRAPH '93 has skipped town or moved? I ended up faxing my registration to: 312-321-6876. I hope that number is real! Michael Zyda
1comp.graphics
In today's Israeline posting, at the end (an afterthought?), I read: > More Money Allocated to Building Infrastructure in Territories to > Create Jobs for Palestinians > > KOL YISRAEL reports that public works geared at building > infrastructure costing 140 million New Israeli Shekels (about 50 > million dollars) will begin Sunday in the Territories. This was > announced last night by Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and Finance > Minister Avraham Shohat in an effort to create more jobs for > Palestinian residents of the Territories. This infusion of money > will bring allocations given to developing infrastructure in the > Territories this year to 450 million NIS, up from last year's > figure of 120 million NIS. While I applaud investing of money in Yehuda, Shomron, v'Chevel-Azza, in order to create jobs for their residents, I find it deplorable that this has never been an active policy of any Israeli administration since 1967, *with regard to their Jewish residents*. Past governments found funds to subsidize cheap (read: affordable) housing and the requisite infrastructure, but where was the investment for creating industry (which would have generated income *and* jobs)? After 26 years, Yehuda and Shomron remain barren, bereft of even middle-sized industries, and the Jewish settlements are sterile "bedroom communities", havens for (in the main) Israelis (both secular *and* religious) who work in Tel-Aviv or Jerusalem but cannot afford to live in either city or their surrounding suburbs. There's an old saying: "bli giboosh, ayn kivoosh" -- just living there wasn't enough, we had to *really* settle it. But instead, we "settled" for Potemkin villages, and now we are paying the price (and doing for others what we should have done for ourselves). -- Yonatan B. Horen | Jews who do not base their advocacy of Jewish positions and (408) 736-3923 | interests on Judaism are essentially racists... the only horen@netcom.com | morally defensible grounds for the preservation of Jews as a | separate people rest on their religious identity as Jews.
17talk.politics.mideast
I would realy like to hear from someone that has one of these NANAO T560i monitors that is driving it with a Diamond SpeedStar 24x. With the 24x set up to run at its 58.1 khz 72.0hz output mode, and realy driving the hell out of the monitor. Just woundering if the NANAO T560i would fall apart with poor low capabilities like my (3) Sony 1604s did with the 24x driving their balls off...Sam -- Gosh..I think I just installed a virus..It was called MS DOS6... Don't copy that floppy..BURN IT...I just love Windows...CRASH...
3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son. Revelation 21:7
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From: "Phil G. Fraering" <pgf@srl03.cacs.usl.edu> >> Finally: this isn't the Bronze Age, [..] >> please try to remember that there are more human activities than >> those practiced by the Warrior Caste, the Farming Caste, and the >> Priesthood. F Baube responds; Right, the Profiting Caste is blessed by God, and may freely blare its presence in the evening twilight .. Steinn Sez; >The Priesthood has never quite forgiven >the merchants (aka Profiting Caste [sic]) >for their rise to power, has it? If we are looking for evidence of belessed-by-God-ness, I'd say the ability to blare lights all over the evening sky is about the best evidence you could ever hope to get. No wonder the preistly classes are upset :-) -Tommy Mac ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom McWilliams 517-355-2178 wk \\ As the radius of vision increases, 18084tm@ibm.cl.msu.edu 336-9591 hm \\ the circumference of mystery grows. -------------------------------------------------------------------------
14sci.space
In article <1993Apr21.024423.29182@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu+ wdwells@nyx.cs.du.edu (David "Fuzzy" Wells) writes: + +I love the idea of an inflatable 1-mile long sign.... It will be a +really neat thing to see it explode when a bolt (or even better, a +Westford Needle!) comes crashing into it at 10 clicks a sec. + Pageos and two Echo balloons were inflated with a substance which expanded in vacuum. Once inflated the substance was no longer needed since there is nothing to cause the balloon to collapse. This inflatable structure could suffer multiple holes with no disastrous deflation. -- Bruce Watson (wats@scicom.alphaCDC.COM) Bulletin 629-49 Item 6700 Extract 75,131
14sci.space
Has anyone had experience with the new Greenleaf CommLib 4.0? I can't even get their demo winterm to run at 4800 baud without dropping characters. tnx, steve /------------------------------------------------------------------------\ > Steve Alpert (W1GGN) IDX Systems Corp. Boston, Massachusetts < \--------------------------- sra @ idx.com ------------------------------/
2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
In article <lt8dl1INN2u2@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> mre@teal.Eng.Sun.COM (Mike Eisler) writes: >But only in NY,NJ, Philadelphia, and Chicago. Everywhere else, the only >reason SportsChannel was available was for local baseball broadcasts. >And local baseball pre-empted the NHL playoffs. Thus far into this Good point. Not only baseball but local NBA basketball games took precedence over any SCA's NHL playoff coverage. -PPV Mark
10rec.sport.hockey
In <C5JJJ2.1tF@cmcl2.nyu.edu> ali@cns.nyu.edu (Alan Macaluso) writes: >I'm looking to build a microphone preamp that has very good low-noise characteristics, large clean gain, and incorportates phantom power (20-48 volts (dc)) for a PZM microphone. I'm leaning towards a good, low-cost (??) instrumentation amplifier to maintain the balanced input from the microphone, for its good CMRR, internal compensation, and because i can use a minimal # of parts. >Does anyone out there have any experience, suggestions, advice, etc...that they'd like to pass on, I'd greatly appreciate it. >--- >A l a n M a c a l u s o PURPLE MOON GIANTS >ali@cns.nyu.edu 158 E. 7th. St. #B5 >(212) 998-7837 NYC 10009 > (212) 982-6630 > Without doing anything really tricky, the best I've seen is the Burr-Brown INA103. Their databook shows a good application of this chip as a phantom power mic pre. > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Josephson Engineering, San Jose California MICROPHONES Tel/ 408-238-6062 Fax/ 408-238-6022 INSTRUMENTATION email:david@josephson.com ftp info from: rahul.net /pub/davidj/
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In article 16APR199309101156@trentu.ca, ayounes@trentu.ca (Amro Younes, Trent University, C.C. #314, Peterborough, ON, Canada K9J 7B8. (705) 749-0391) writes: >I have the ATI GRAPHICS ULTRA PRO EISA version. I must admit it has >received bad press but that was due to the faulty drivers it had. PC Magazine seems to be impressed with the ATI card in their most recent reviews. In the April 13th issue they rate the ATI Graphics Ultra Pro (EISA version) as their "Editor's Choice". They noted that the drivers had improved since they tested the ISA version in January... ...Cuyler
1comp.graphics
In article <1snoqoINNdh@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, philb@cats.ucsc.edu (Philip Brown) writes: > > > I'd like to know if there is any ***_FREE_*** fax software for Xwindows > that I can use. > I have a sun 4/110 running mit X11R5. > I checked the export.lcs.mit.edu list, and there didn't seem to be > anything there. > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Tea: a Noxious brew of various oriental leaves, containing toxic acids. > Personally, I rather like it." (paraprhased from Dr. Who: Peter Davidson) > philb@cats.ucsc.edu philb@soda.berkeley.edu check prep.ai.mit.edu. It's called fax-3.2.1.tar.Z or something to that effect and is the software for netfax. Be forewarned that it requires (at the moment) a fairly costly $450 fax modem with certain capabilities to use it. -- _____________________________________________________________ Doug Hughes System/Net Admin - Martin Marietta Aerospace, Valley Forge, PA doug@happy.vf.ge.com or doug@land.vf.ge.com
5comp.windows.x
In article <1993Apr16.212441.34125@rchland.ibm.com>, ricardo@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Ricardo Hernandez Muchado) writes: > In article <1993Apr15.164940.11632@mercury.unt.edu>, Sean McMains <mcmains@unt.edu> writes: > > |> > |> Ricardo, the animation playback to which Lawrence was referring in an > |> earlier post is plain old Quicktime 1.5 with the Compact Video codec. > |> I've seen digitized video (some of Apple's early commercials, to be > |> precise) running on a Centris 650 at about 30fps very nicely (16-bit > |> color depth). I would expect that using the same algorithm, a RISC > |> processor should be able to approach full-screen full-motion animation, > |> though as you've implied, the processor will be taxed more with highly > |> dynamic material. > > > Sean, I don't want to get into a 'mini-war' by what I am going to say, > but I have to be a little bit skeptic about the performance you are > claiming on the Centris, you'll see why (please, no-flames, I reserve > those for c.s.m.a :-) ) > > I was in Chicago in the last consumer electronics show, and Apple had a > booth there. I walked by, and they were showing real-time video capture > using a (Radious or SuperMac?) card to digitize and make right on the spot > quicktime movies. I think the quicktime they were using was the old one > (1.5). That is in fact the current version (it only came out in December). > They digitized a guy talking there in 160x2xx something. It played back quite > nicely and in real time. The guy then expanded the window (resized) to 25x by > 3xx (320 in y I think) and the frame rate decreased enough to notice that it > wasn't 30fps (or about 30fps) anymore. It dropped to like 15 fps. Then he > increased it just a bit more, and it dropped to 10<->12 fps. > > Then I asked him what Mac he was using... He was using a Quadra (don't know > what model, 900?) to do it, and he was telling the guys there that the Quicktime > could play back at the same speed even on an LCII. > > Well, I spoiled his claim so to say, since a 68040 Quadra Mac was having > a little bit of trouble. And this wasn't even from the hardisk! This was > from memory! My test movie was created at 320*240 resolution, it wasn't being scaled up. Scaling was a very CPU-intensive operation with the original QuickTime (1.0); the current version has optimizations for ratios like 4:1 (160*120 -> 320*240), but even so, I'm prepared to believe that the performance isn't as good as with playing back an actual 320*240 movie. I haven't done any numerical measurements for scaled playback. Lawrence D'Oliveiro fone: +64-7-856-2889 Computer Services Dept fax: +64-7-838-4066 University of Waikato electric mail: ldo@waikato.ac.nz Hamilton, New Zealand 37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
1comp.graphics
Larry L. Overacker writes, responding to Simon: I may be interesting to see some brief selections posted to the net. My understanding is that SSPX does not consider ITSELF in schism or legitimately excommunicated. But that's really beside the point. What does the Roman Catholic church say? Excommunication can be real apart from formal excommunication, as provided for in canon law. Here's some of the theology involved for the interested. There is confusion over this issue of the SSPX's "schism"; often the basic problem is lack of an ability to distinguish between: - true obedience - false obedience - disobedience - schism Take the various classifications of obedience first. There are 2 important elements involved here for my purposes: 1) a command 2) the response made to the command As far as the command goes, commands can be LEGITIMATE, such as the Pope ordering Catholics to not eat meat on Fridays. Or they can be ILLEGITIMATE, such as the Pope ordering Catholics to worship the god Dagon when every other full moon comes around. As far as the response to a command goes, it can be to REFUSE to do what is commanded, or to COMPLY. Making a table, there are thus 4 possibilites: command response name ----------------------------------------------------- LEGITIMATE COMPLY true obedience ILLEGITIMATE REFUSE true obedience LEGITIMATE REFUSE disobedience ILLEGITIMATE COMPLY false obedience So now you see where my 3 classifications of obedience come from. Obedience is not solely a matter of compliance/refusal. The nature of the commands must also be taken into account; it is not enough to consider someone's compliance or refusal and then say whether they are "obedient" or "disobedient". You also have to take into consideration whether the commands are good or bad. In my example, if the Pope commands all Catholics to worship the god Dagon, and they all refuse, they aren't being disobedient at all! As far as the Society of Saint Pius X goes, they are certainly refusing to comply with certain things the Pope desires. But that alone is insufficient to allow one to label them "disobedient". You also have to consider the nature of the Papal desires. And there's the rub: SSPX says the Popes since Vatican II have been commanding certain very bad things for the Church. The Popes have of course disagreed. So where are we? Are we in another Arian heresy, complete with weak Popes? Or are the SSPX priests modern Martin Luthers? Well, the only way to answer that is to examine who is saying what, and what the traditional teaching of the Church is. The problem here is that very few Catholics have much of an idea of what is really going on, and what the issues are. The religion of American Catholics is especially defective in intellectual depth. You will never read about the issues being discussed in the Catholic press in this country. (On the other hand, one Italian Catholic magazine I get -- 30 Days -- has had interviews with the Superior General of the Society of Saint Pius X.) Many Catholics will decide to side with the Pope. There is some soundness in this, because the Papacy is infallible, so eventually some Pope *will* straighten all this out. But, on the other hand, there is also unsoundness in this, in that, in the short term, the Popes may indeed be wrong, and such Catholics are doing nothing to help the situation by obeying them where they're wrong. In fact, if the situation is grave enough, they sin in obeying him. At the very least, they're wasting a great opportunity, because they are failing to love Christ in a heroic way at the very time that He needs this badly. Schism... let's move on to schism. What is it? Schism is a superset of disobedience (refusal to obey a legitimate command). All schismatics are disobedient. But it's a superset, so it doesn't work the other way around: not all disobeyers are schismatics. The mere fact that the SSPX priests don't comply with the Holy Father's desires doesn't make them schismatics. So what is it that must be added to disobedience to constitute a schism? Maybe this something else makes the SSPX priests schismatics. You must add this: the rejection of the right to command. Look in any decent reference on Catholic theology, and that's what you'll find: the distinguishing criterion of schism is rejection of the right to command. Here's what the Catholic Encyclopedia says, for example: ... not every disobedience is a schism; in order to possess this character it must include besides the trangression of the commands of superiors, denial of their Divine right to command. (from the CE article "Schism") Is the Society of Saint Pius X then schismatic? The answer is a clear no: they say that the Pope is their boss. They pray for him every day. And that's all that matters as far as schism goes. What all this boils down to is this: if we leave aside the consideration of the exact nature of their objections, their position is a legitimate one, as far as the Catholic theology of obedience and schism goes. They are resisting certain Papal policies because they think that they are clearly contrary to the traditional teaching of the Papacy, and the best interests of the Church. (In fact, someone who finds himself in this situation has a *duty* to resist.) Now, what is the stance of Rome on all this? Well, if you read the Holy Father's motu proprio "Ecclesia Dei", you can find out. It's the definitive document on the subject. A motu proprio is a specifically Papal act. It's not the product of a Roman congregation, a letter that the Pope has possibly never even read. It's from the Pope himself. His boss is God... there's no one else to complain to. In this document, the Holy Father says, among other things: 1) The episcopal consecrations performed by Archbishop Lefebvre constituted a schismatic act. 2) Archbishop Lefebvre's problem was a misunderstanding of the nature of Tradtion. Both are confusing: I fail to see the logic of the Pope's points. As far as the episcopal consecrations go, I read an interesting article in a translation of the Italian magazine "Si Si No No". It all gets back to the question of jurisdiction. If episcopal consecrations imply rejection of the Pope's jurisdiction, then they would truly constitute a schismatic act, justifying excommunication under the current code of canon law. But my problem with this is this: according to the traditional theology of Holy Orders, episcopal consecration does not confer jurisdiction. It only confers the power of Order: the ability to confect the Sacraments. Jurisdiction must be conferred by someone else with the power to confer it (such as the Pope). The Society bishops, knowing the traditional theology quite well, take great pains to avoid any pretence of jurisdiction over anyone. They simply confer those Sacraments that require a bishop. The "Si Si No No" article was interesting in that it posited that the reason that the Pope said what he did is that he has a novel, post-Vatican II idea of Holy Orders. According to this idea, episcopal consecration *does* confer jurisdiction. I lent the article to a friend, unfortunately, so can't tell you more. I believe they quoted the new code of canon law in support of this idea. The Pope's thinking on this point remains a great puzzle to me. There's no way there is a schism, according to traditional Catholic theology. So why does the Pope think this? As far as the points regarding the nature of Tradition goes, here's the passage in question: The root of this schismatic act can be discerned in an incomplete and contradictory notion of Tradtion. Incomplete, because it does not take sufficiently into the account the living character of Tradition, which, as the Second Vatican Council clearly taught, comes from the apostles and progresses in the Church with the help of the Holy Spirit. There is a growth in insight into the realities and words that are being passed on. This comes about in various ways. It comes through the contemplation and study of believers who ponder these things in their hearts. It comes from the intimate sense of spiritual realities which they experience. And it comes from the preaching of those who have received, along with their right of succession in the espiscopate, the sure charism of truth. But especially contradictory is a notion of Tradition which opposes the universal Magisterium of the Church possessed by the Bishop of Rome and the body of bishops. It is impossible to remain faithful to the Tradition while breaking the ecclesial bond with him to whom, in the person of the Apostle Peter, Christ himself entrusted the ministry of unity in His Church. (Papal motu proprio "Ecclesia Dei", 2 July 1988) It seems to me that the Holy Father is making two points here that can be simplified to the following: - Vatican Council II has happened. - I am the Pope. The argument being that either case is sufficient to prove that Archbishop Lefebvre must be wrong, because he disagrees with them. This is weak, to say the least! It would have helped clarify things more if the Pope had addressed Archbishop Lefebvre's concerns in detail. What is John Paul II's stand on the social Kingship of Christ, as taught by Gregory XVI, Pius IX, Leo XIII, Pius XI and Pius XII, for example? Are we supposed to ignore what all these Popes said on the subject? I don't know what the future will hold, but the powers that be in the SSPX are still talking with Rome and trying to straighten things out. -------------------------------------------------------------- [Many people would prefer to call a justified refusal to obey "justified disobedience" or even "obeying God rather than man". Calling a refusal to obey obedience puts us into a sort of Alice in Wonderland world where words mean whatever we want them to mean. Similarly, schism indicates a formal break in the church. If the Pope says that a schism exists, it seems to me that by definition it exists. It may be that the Pope is on the wrong side of the break, that there is no good reason for the break to exist, and that it will shortly be healed. But how can one deny that it does in fact exist? It seems to me that you are in grave danger of destroying the thing you are trying to reform: the power of the papacy. What good will it do you if you become reconciled to the the Pope in the future, but in the process, you have destroyed his ability to use the tools of church discipline? It's one thing to hold that the Pope has misused his powers, and excommunicated someone wrongly. It's something else to say that his excommunication did not take effect, and the schism is all in his imagination. That means that acts of church discipline are not legal tools, but acts whose validity is open to debate. Generally it has been liberal Catholics who have had problems with the Pope. While they have often objected to church sanctions, generally they have admitted that the sanctions exist. You are now opening the door to people simply ignoring papal decisions, claiming to be truly obeying by disobeying, and to be in communion while excommunicated. This would seem to be precisely the denial of Divine right to command that you say defines schism. --clh]
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In <1993Apr16.040946.26896@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> brzyckmj@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Mike) writes: >Does anyone out there know if there are print drivers for Windows for the >Panasonic KX-P1091i 9-pin dot matrix printer? I've been told that Panasonic has uploaded some to Compu$erve, but I don't have a CIS account. I just use the Epson FX-80 driver myself, and it comes out very pretty (if very slowly) on my 1080i. -- Carl Fink carlf@panix.com, C.FINK4(GEnie), or CF427620I@LIUVAX.BITNET "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence" -- John Adams
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Quicksliver monoblock tube amps 8417 output tubes, complete set of new tubes... just installed plus a new set of backup tubes. Oversize caps, boxes, meter, etc... Ultramint condition. $1150 Firm Please direct all responses to Stephen Barnett. (718)/622-3217 -- Peter White pw4963@csc.albany.edu pwhite@mac.archive.umich.edu
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In article <1993Apr14.191415.10553@samba.oit.unc.edu> cptully@med.unc.edu (Christopher P. Tully,Pathology,62699) writes: > Why so up tight? FOr that matter, TIFF6 is out now, so why not gripe > about its problems? Also, if its so important to you, volunteer to > help define or critique the spec. I've got the 6.0 spec (obviously since I quoted it in my last posting). My gripe about TIFF is that it's far too complicated and nearly infinitely easier to write than to read, which I think hurts your acceptance by anything that will need to read those images (e.g., paint programs). In a nutshell, I don't think TIFF is salvageable unless the fat is trimmed significantly- and then it wouldn't be TIFF anymore. They keep trying to cut it back, but it's late now. Maybe they >will< fix it, and change that magic number to signify the lack of compatibility. That would probably make me happy. ab
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Antonio L. Balsamo (Save the wails) (balsamo@stargl.enet.dec.com) wrote: : From: OPDBS@vm.cc.latech.edu : Subject: Taurus/Sable rotor recall : My '92 Taurus GL with only 26k on the clock also has rotor warp. : Apparently they HAVEN'T fixed the problem yet. But try convincing the Ford : service person to fix it for free...Right!!! : Tony Gads, I have heard so many horror stories with Taurus and Sable cars! I thought these were premium American automobiles. The way they sell, you'd think so. Is Ford really no better than in the late '70s when it was turning out tin cans like the Granada and the Fairmount? Which would you get, a Taurus or a Camry or Accord? John zorro@picasso.ocis.temple.edu zorro@astro.ocis.temple.edu ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes: > Does anyone have a reference (something I can look up, not just your own > recollections -- I have a few of those myself) on the temperature of the > (night) sky as seen from space? You'll find that in Allen, C.W., "Astrophysical Quantities", Athlone Press, Dover, NH, 3rd edition, pp. 268-269 (1973). To the accuracy it can be calculated (see specific references in Allen about how it is calculated), the temperature is 3 degrees K. Lots of people have remarked on this temperature. The first may have been in Eddington's book, "Internal Constitution of Stars", Ch. 13 (1926; reprinted 1986), where he gives the "temperature of space" as 3 degrees. The source of this temperature is the radiation of starlight. > My dim recollection is that the net effective temperature is > substantially higher than that of the MBR, once you figure in things like > stars and the zodiacal light, but I'd like numbers. To the accuracy of measurement, it's the same temperature. Some of us think this may not be a coincidence. -|Tom|- -- Tom Van Flandern / Washington, DC / metares@well.sf.ca.us Meta Research was founded to foster research into ideas not otherwise supported because they conflict with mainstream theories in Astronomy.
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In article <C5sno8.H5p@boi.hp.com> dianem@boi.hp.com (Diane Mathews) writes: >In article <1993Apr20.153450.27407@ncsu.edu> dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes: >>Janet Reno killed the Waco children. She is responsible for >>their deaths. She should resign immediately. She should have >>understood that David Koresh was a madman who would do anything >>against the children if he became provoked. All the warning >>signs were there and she ignored them. She provoked Koresh >>into killing the children. > >Aside from the fact that i disagree w/ you, she did offer to resign and the >president rejected the offer. She was willing to take responsibility, and >the president has the balls enough to stand by a decision. > The fact that Reno is actually taking responsibility (gee--that's a new one for a politician) is a new thing for a member of Clinton's administration. I actually respect her for having a backbone ( I never thought I'd say that about someone from that bunch). The way I understand what happened is that she discussed with Clinton what was being planned for Waco. Clinton didn't say no, so gave de facto approval for the operation. Things got messed up, and a lot of people died horrible deaths. (if I am incorrect about this, please feel free to correct it. This is just what I've been able to pick up.) I've just got a couple of questions about this whole thing. (1) Why did the government feel they needed to assault that compound? (2) Why didn't they try to flush them out in the first week of this fiasco instead of waiting 50 days. (3) Janet Reno jumped up to take responsibilty to take heat away from the President. Does this sound anything like what a couple of Reagan's aides did? --aaron
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In article <1r997l$3fc@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> mac18@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael A. Cornell) writes: > >The USA Today says "late this year". The question is, will hockey be moved to >ESPN2 permenantly, or will it be where they have a game of the week on >ESPN, and have a bunch of other games on ESPN2? > Yes and No. ESPN2 will be launched as early in September. Cap Cities are currently working with cable companies to ensure a good start-up base needed for a launch for any brand new cable service. The problem ESPN2 faces is the TCI-Cablevision connection in the merger of their Prime and SportsChannel networks. Prime SportsChannel will try to wrestle away NHL from ESPN in the off-season. Also,TCI and Cablevision have control a large number of cable systems around the country with a total of 15 million subscribers. TCI-Cablevision will do their best that ESPN2 never gets off the ground successfully. And the NHL's value will suddenly skyrocket in this cable war between Prime SC and ESPN. NHL is more vital to the survival of a regionalized Prime SportsChannel since they virtually have no national major league sports contracts and only cover local NHL/NBA/MLB sports teams. -PPV Mark
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From: speedy@engr.latech.edu (Speedy Mercer) I was attacked by a rabid hubcap once. I was going to work on a Yamaha 750 Twin (A.K.A. "the vibrating tank") when I heard a wierd noise off to my left. I caught a glimpse of something silver headed for my left foot and jerked it up about a nanosecond before my bike was hit HARD in the left... (Rest deleted) Anyone else had this sort of experience? ----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====---- Stolen Taglines... * God is real, unless declared integer. * * I came, I saw, I deleted all your files. * * Black holes are where God is dividing by zero. * * The world will end in 5 minutes. Please log out. * * Earth is 98% full.... please delete anyone you can. * Actually, hubcap attacks are fairly common, most cagers being too incompetant to reinstall them properly after changing tires, or to check them after collisions. Luckily, few are as heavy as the one that got you. Al Moore DoD 734 Don't forget the immortal * swap file read error: you lose your mind. *
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In article <10thpbd$5sn@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa824@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Ira Kaufman) writes: > > I must finally admit the total truth that is central to the >core of my being. > >your erection insinuating itself into my kosher rectum always will. > > =Mark= What say you and Nick go somewhere else with this shool yard crap. -- Tim Clock Ph.D./Graduate student UCI tel#: 714,8565361 Department of Politics and Society fax#: 714,8568441 University of California - Irvine Home tel#: 714,8563446 Irvine, CA 92717
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Hello, I've been trying to bump map a gif onto a sphere for a while and I can't seem to get it to work. Image mapping works, but not bump mapping. Here's a simple file I was working with, could some kind soul tell me whats wrong with this..... #include "colors.inc" #include "shapes.inc" #include "textures.inc" camera { location <0 1 -3> direction <0 0 1.5> up <0 1 0> right <1.33 0 0> look_at <0 1 2> } object { light_source { <2 4 -3> color White } } object { sphere { <0 1 2> 1 } texture { bump_map { 1 <0 1 2> gif "surf.gif"} } } NOTE: surf.gif is a plasma fractal from Fractint that is using the landscape palette map. Thanks in advance -Daniel- *======================================================================* | Daniel Kennett | | dkennett@sfu.ca | | "Our minds are finite, and yet even in those circumstances of | | finitude, we are surrounded by possibilities that are infinite, and | | the purpose of human life is to grasp as much as we can out of that | | infinitude." - Alfred North Whitehead | *======================================================================*
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Yes, it is the 23, 24 and 25, in but does anyone have directions how to get there after I get to Dayton. Thanks Wayne Martin
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In article <Apr.11.01.02.46.1993.17799@athos.rutgers.edu> mhsu@lonestar.utsa.edu (Melinda . Hsu ) writes: >belief that their faith is total truth. According to them, >their beliefs come from the Bible and the bible is the word of >God and God is truth - thus they know the truth. This stance >makes it difficult to discuss other faiths with them and my own >hesitations about Christianity because they see no other way. >Their way is the 'truth.' > >But I see their faith arising from a willful choice to believe >a particular way. That choice is part faith and part reason, >but it seems to me a choice. > >My discussions with some Christians remind me of schoolyard >discussions when I was in grade school: > >A kid would say, "All policemen are jerks!" I'd ask, "How do >you know?" "Because my daddy told me so!" "How do you know >you're daddy is right?" "He says he's always right!" > >Well the argument usually stops right there. In the end, >aren't we all just kids, groping for the truth? If so, do we have >the authority to declare all other beliefs besides our own as >false? I find this argument very strange, though not unfamiliar. An analogy someone used a while back can perhaps illustrate it. Say, for example, there are people living on a volcanic island, and a group of geologists determine that a volcano is imminent. They warn the people on the island that they are in danger, and should leave. A group of people on the island is given the task of warning others of the danger. They believe the danger is real, but others may not. Does that mean that the first group are NECESSARILY arrogant in warning others of the danger? Does it mean that they are saying that their beliefs are correct, and all others are false? Some might indeed react to opposition with arrogance, and behave in an arrogant manner, but that is a personal idiocyncracy. It does not necessarily mean that they are all arrogant. ============================================================ Steve Hayes, Department of Missiology & Editorial Department Univ. of South Africa, P.O. Box 392, Pretoria, 0001 South Africa Internet: hayesstw@risc1.unisa.ac.za steve.hayes@p5.f22.n7101.z5.fidonet.org stephen.hayes@f20.n7101.z5.fidonet.org
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930420 Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. The word of Sin is Restriction. Kent (sandvik@newton.apple.com) writes: Sorry, the San Jose based Rosicrucian order is called A.M.O.R.C, I don't remember for the time being what the A.M. stand for but O.R.C is Ordo Rosae Crucis, in other words latin for Order of the Rose Cross. Response: Yes, very true. The entire title is 'The Ancient and Mystical Order Rosae Crucis'. They are located at 1342 Naglee Avenue, San Jose, California, 95191-0001, USA. They are considered different and largely unrelated by a number of sources. I've seen documentation which links them through the figure of H. Spencer Lewis. Lewis was apparently involved with Reuss, who was the O.H.O. of Ordo Templi Orientis for many years. Apparently it is also true that Lewis had a charter to form an O.T.O. body and then created A.M.O.R.C. (as a subsidiary? an interesting question). Kent: Otherwise their headquarters in San Jose has a pretty decent metaphysical bookstore, if any of you are interested in such books. And my son loves to run around in their Egyptian museum. Response: Indeed, and diagonally across the street is another metaphysical book store called 'Ram Metaphysical', wherein I've purchased some wonderful works by Crowley and others. Ram Metaphysical Books, 1749 Park Ave., San Jose, CA. (408) 294-2651. Invoke me under my stars. Love is the law, love under will. I am I! Frater (I) Nigris (DCLXVI) CCCXXXIII
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JB> romdas@uclink.berkeley.edu (Ella I Baff) writes: JB> JB> Ron Roth recommends: "Once you have your hypoglycemia CONFIRMED through the JB> proper channels, you might consider the following:..." JB> [diet omitted] JB> JB> 1) Ron...what do YOU consider to be "proper channels"...this sounds suspiciously I'm glad it caught your eye. That's the purpose of this forum to educate those, eager to learn, about the facts of life. That phrase is used to bridle the frenzy of all the would-be respondents, who otherwise would feel being left out as the proper authorities to be consulted on that topic. In short, it means absolutely nothing. JB> like a blood chemistry...glucose tolerance and the like...suddenly chemistry JB> exists? You know perfectly well that this person can be saved needless trouble JB> and expense with simple muscle testing and hair analysis to diagnose...no JB> "CONFIRM" any aberrant physiology...but then again...maybe that's what you mean" Muscle testing and hair analysis, eh? So what other fascinating space-age medical techniques do you use? Do you sit under a pyramid over night as well to shrink your brain back to normal after a mind- expanding day at your 'Save the Earth' clinic? JB> 2) Were you able to understand Dick King's post that "90% of diseases is not thy JB> evaluate the statistic you cited from the New England Journal of Medicine. Coul? Once I figure out what *you* are trying to say, I'll still have to wrestle with the possibility of you conceivably not being able to understand my answer to your question?! JB> 3) Ron...have you ever thought about why you never post in misc.health.alterna- JB> tive...and insist instead upon insinuating your untrained, non-medical, often JB> delusional notions of health and disease into this forum? I suspect from your JB> apparent anger toward MDs and heteropathic medicine that there may be an ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You little psychoanalytical rascal you! Got me all figured out, ja? JB> underlying 'father problem'...of course I can CONFIRM this by surrogate muscle JB> testing one of my patients while they ponder my theory to see if one of their JB> previously weak 'indicator' muscles strengthens...or do you have reservations JB> about my unique methods of diagnosis? [......] JB> JB> John Badanes, DC, CA JB> romdas@uclink.berkeley.edu Oh man, when are you going to start teaching all this stuff? I'll bet everyone on this net must be absolutely dying to learn more about going beyond spinal adjustments and head straight for the mind for some Freudian subluxation. --Ron-- --- RoseReader 2.00 P003228: In the next world, you're on your own. RoseMail 2.10 : Usenet: Rose Media - Hamilton (416) 575-5363
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While I cannot answer questions about running XDM over a DECnet, I can say that the following defines must be added to the site.def before building R5 before any X clients will work over a DECnet. From site.def #define ConnectionFlags -DTCPCONN -DUNIXCONN -DDNETCONN #define ExtraLibraries -ldnet Hoping this helps, George -- /******************************************************************* * The opinions expressed are those of the author and in no way * * represent the opinions of the CUNY Graduate School, its agencies * * or personnel. mcc@timessqr.gc.cuny.edu || CMCGC@CUNYVM.BITNET * *******************************************************************/ -- /******************************************************************* * The opinions expressed are those of the author and in no way * * represent the opinions of the CUNY Graduate School, its agencies * * or personnel. mcc@timessqr.gc.cuny.edu || CMCGC@CUNYVM.BITNET *
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In article <1993Apr21.100149.1501@rtsg.mot.com>, kissane@black.Berkeley.EDU (John G. Kissane) writes: |> As a matter of interest does anyone know why autos are so popular in the US while |> here in Europe they are rare??? Just wondering..... In many of our cities, there are traffic signals every 100 feet (unsynchronised, of course (well here in Ottawa anyway)) and the roads are so congested that shifting manually is a real pain in the left foot. Also, most Canadians are too stupid to learn how to shift manually (gee, I gotta co-ordinate my two feet on the clutch, brake _and_ accelerator, and I gotta steer, shift _and_ operate the signals (optional) and radio with my two hands... duh... it can't be done). Also, most North American made cars come with the automatic as standard equipment, so why bother with a manual when the car can shift for you for no addition money. |> -- |> ___________________________________________________________________ ____/| |> John Kissane | Motorola Ireland Ltd., | \'o.O' |> UUCP : ..uunet!motcid!glas!kissanej | Mahon Industrial Estate, | =() ()= |> Internet: kissanej@glas.rtsg.mot.com | Blackrock, Cork, Ireland | U -- Doug Zolmer Internet: dwjz@bnr.ca Disclaimer: My opinions only 1 3 5 Bell-Northern Research Ltd. Ottawa, Ontario, Canada |-|-| Dept. 7N61 - Service Control Point - Routing Services Design 2 3 R
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geoff@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Geoffrey Kuenning) writes: >It always amazes me how quick people are to blame whatever >administration is current for things they couldn't possibly have >initiated. This chip had to take *years* to develop, yet already >we're claiming that the Clinton administration sneaked it in on us. No kidding. The most recent post I saw in alt.privacy.clipper (and I hope anyone interested in this topic ends up there) states that Clipper has been in development for over four years. I am, however, more than a little PO'd that Clinton put his name on this monstrosity, or even allowed it to get out the door, for that matter. He's already heard from me, and I hope you'll all take the time to voice your extreme displeasure as well. -- Tim Russell Omaha, NE trussell@unomaha.edu
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In article <1poj23INN9k@west.West.Sun.COM> gaijin@ale.Japan.Sun.COM (John Little - Nihon Sun Repair Depot) writes: >In article <8108.97.uupcb@compdyn.questor.org> \ >ryan_cousineau@compdyn.questor.org (Ryan Cousineau) writes: >% >% I think I've found the ultimate summer job: It's dangerous, involves >% motorcycles, requires high speeds in traffic, and it pays well. >% >% So my question is as follows: Has anyone here done this sort of work? >% What was your experience? >% [Stuff deleted] > Get a -good- "AtoZ" type indexed streetmap for all of the areas you're > likely to work. Always carry plenty of black-plastic bin liners to Check with the local fire department. My buddy is a firefighter and they have these small map books which are Amazing! They are compact, easy to use (no folding). They even have a cross reference section in which you match your current cross streets with the cross streets you want to go to and it details the quickest route. They gave me an extra they had laying around. But then again I know all those people I'm not really sure if they are supposed to give/sell them. (The police may also have something similar). >-- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > | John Little - gaijin@Japan.Sun.COM - Sun Microsystems. Atsugi, Japan | > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ..vela.acs.oakland.edu!psgi!todd | '88 RM125 The only bike sold without Todd Doolittle | a red-line. Troy, MI | '88 EX500 DoD #0832 | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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In article <5227@unisql.UUCP> ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes: > >Can someone tell me what a deltabox frame is, and what relation that has, >if any, to the frame on my Hawk GT? That way, next time some guy comes up >to me in some parking lot and sez "hey, dude, nice bike, is that a deltabox >frame on there?" I can say something besides "duh, er, huh?" Deltabox (tm) is a registered trademark of Yamaha, used to describe their aluminum perimeter frame design, used on the FZR400 and FZR1000. In cross-section, it has a five-sided appearance, so it probably really should be called a "Pentabox". ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Dave Tharp | DoD #0751 | "You can't wear out | | davet@interceptor.CDS.TEK.COM | MRA #151 | an Indian Scout, | | '88 K75S '48 Indian Chief | AHRMA #751 | Or its brother the Chief.| | '75 R90S(#151) '72 TR-2B(#751) | AMA #524737 | They're built like rocks | | '65 R50/2/Velorex '57 NSU Max | | to take the knocks, | | 1936 BMW R12 | (Compulsive | It's the Harleys that | | My employer has no idea. | Joiner) | give you grief." | -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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In article <C5D05G.6xw@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> papresco@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod) writes: >In article <1993Apr10.155819.18237@sco.com> allanh@sco.COM (Allan J. Heim) writes: >>Look, if you can figure out a reliable means of keeping guns away from >>bad people, while not interfering with good people, I think we'd all be >>for it. The problem is, the methods we're using now don't do the trick. > >Don't manufacture them. Don't sell them. Don't import them. > >Some guns will get through, but far fewer, and far less people will >die because of them. Hunting weapons could be allowed, of course, as >long as they are big, and bulky, and require reloading after a few >shots (how many times can you shoot at the same animal, anyways One >assumes they are moving!) > > First of all let's assume that you are right that fewer guns would make it in to the country, that sounds great (to those that see guns as inherently evil) except then every one of those guns would be in the hands of someone who obviously couldn't care less about following the law, after all they got the gun illegally, so is more likely to commit a crime with that gun. Great then everyone with a gun is likely to use it in a crime, nice system. Now as to reducing the number of guns coming into society by making it illegal to manufacture, sell, or import them in this coutry, let me use a parallel for empiric evidence. The amount of cocaine in this country is far less since its manufacture, sale, and importation was out lawwed. If that last statement is true then perhaps we should consider your plan. This could also apply to drugs in general. PLAIN OLD JOE >
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In article <1qkjvc$4jv@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>, frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes: |> In article <1qk1md$6gs@kyle.eitech.com> ekr@kyle.eitech.com (Eric Rescorla) writes: |> #In article <1qjbn0$na4@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes: |> #>In article <kmr4.1571.734847050@po.CWRU.edu> kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan) writes: |> #># You have only pushed back the undefined meaning. You must now define |> #>#what "objective values" are. |> #> |> #>Really? You don't know what objective value is? If I offered the people |> #>of the U.S., collectively, $1 for all of the land in America, would that |> #>sound like a good deal? |> #Well, that would depend on how much we wanted the US and how much |> #we wanted the $1, wouldn't it? |> |> Yes it would. Luckily these parameters are fixed by reality. If I can |> predict with almost 100% accuracy that Americans prefer to own their portions of |> the US than an infinitesmal portion of $1, in what sense are these values |> not objective? Not only are they not objective, but they don't even stay constant over time. A young farmer and an old farmer on the verge of retirement have quite different ideas about the relative values of a piece of land and a dollar bill. Similarly, a person viewing an anonymous piece of land, and a person viewing a piece of land that his family has lived on for generations. These values are essentially subjective, and that's why we have markets: to allow people to match their valuations of land and dollar bills. jon.
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Just an apology in advance for posting a binary to this newsgroup. I've had several attempts to mail it to the original poster but it's not getting through intact. -- _--_|\ Clive Mitchell ph: +61 9 4916384 / \ Regional Network Systems mitchell@telecomwa.oz.au >> *_.--._/ Perth , Western Australia v
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In article <01050810.vuumdq@mbeckman.mbeckman.com>, mbeckman@mbeckman.mbeckman.com (Mel Beckman) writes: > > Unfortunately, Hoover thought himself above the constitution, whatever he > considered the limits others should obey. He ruthlessly invaded the privacy > of many private and public citizens. > > -mel In 1967, when I was a grad student at UW in Seattle I had a chance to read Hoover's book "Masters of Deceit", and I quote a sentence (from memory): "and beware my fellow Americans, a communist may look just as an ordinary person..." I went to the mirror and it was true. -- Borut B. Lavrencic, D.Sc. | X.400 :C=si;A=mail;P=ac;O=ijs;S=lavrencic J. Stefan Institute | Internet:Borut.B.Lavrencic@ijs.si University of Ljubljana, | Phone :+ 386 1 159 199 SI-61111 Ljubljana, Slovenia | PGP Public Key available on request DOLGO SMOIS KALIS OVRAZ NIKEI NJIHK OCNOO DKRIL IVSEB IPIKA
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*Teddy O'Neill-Creature with furry Hobbit feet from Bath UK*, a sentimental fool, posts: With the force of a world-wide youth movement, it ought to be possible to establish a coordinated global program to accomplish the strategic goal of completely eliminating the internal combustion engine over, say, a twenty year period. Evidently there are no open questions, either scientific or about how people prefer to live. -- John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305 * He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.
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======= FORSALE ======= CPM Computers: 1. Model AMPRO A13001 Rev A, with or without 2 720K 5 1/4" floppy drives and system disks. Z80 processor. 2. Unknown brand. w/Miniscribe Model 1006 hard drive. 1/2 height 8" Shugart model 810 floppy drive. Keyboard. System disks. Also: 2 - 8" Shugart model 801 floppy drives. Also: Commodore 64 computer, 1541 disk drive. Will sell in whole or in parts. Buyer pays shipping. To make offers, either email beers@cs.buffalo.edu or call (716) 741-9272, and ask for Jonathan. Andrew
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>DATE: 18 Apr 93 00:13:19 -0500 >FROM: jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu > >Yea, there are millions of cases where yoy *say* that firearms >'deter' criminals. Alas, this is not provable. In my case I am alive thanks to a gun, that is provable.. even in your twisted logic. >I think that that there are actually *few* cases where this is so. No... Wrong again brain trust.. >The bulk of firarems are used against unworthy and unnesessary >opponents Huh? What planet are you from? >The 2nd amendment is dead. Accept this. Find another way. Wrong... Not as long as freedom remains .. PS: Get a Dictionary.. Faustus (Gun of the month club... hmmm.. Glock 10mm this month.. Sig 226 next..)
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In <1qlapk$d7v@morrow.stanford.edu> salem@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Bruce Salem) writes: >In article <C5JrDE.M4z@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Mike Cobb) writes: >>Theory of Creationism: MY theistic view of the theory of creationism, (there >>are many others) is stated in Genesis 1. In the beginning God created >>the heavens and the earth. > Wonderful, now try alittle imaginative thinking! Huh? Imaginative thinking? What did that have to do with what I said? Would it have been better if I said the world has existed forever and never was created and has an endless supply of energy and there was spontaneous generation of life from non-life? WOuld that make me all-wise, and knowing, and imaginative? MAC -- **************************************************************** Michael A. Cobb "...and I won't raise taxes on the middle University of Illinois class to pay for my programs." Champaign-Urbana -Bill Clinton 3rd Debate cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu With new taxes and spending cuts we'll still have 310 billion dollar deficits.
0alt.atheism
In article <22APR93.02956996.0062@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA> F1HH@UNB.CA (Patrick Walker) writes: (much mindless drivel deleted) >Sorry to ramble. As you can see I hate Mario. >Pat Walker >UNB Question to you Canadian folk: is this University of New Brunswick a branch campus of the Western Business School? Seems like the same sort of rectal appendage belongs to both of them. rick
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craw@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Sebastian Filzek) writes: >I think that they are avaliable in the states and even in England, but >alas I live in Australia. Could someone please inform me if I can get >these things over here, and if so where??? and how much??? >Also are they really commonly avaliable in the states, and if so, then >how much are they and who sells them (maybe if I cant get one here, I'll >write to one of the companies over seas..) >Anyway.... Thanks in advance... >Sab >93 I got mine for about 7 bucks at Radio Shack. The instructions DO say to expose it to light for a while, but mine doesn't seem to require very much to make it work. I just wish I could get a big sheet of the stuff, abouit 12" x 12" for a reasonable price.....it isn't cheap, from what I've seen. Duane
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I can't find CTDS (Connect The Dots Smoother) in France. If it is a commercial program I'll happily pay whatever it may cost (do not take it litterally). Please help! I have *LOTS* of PoV sources, texture images and animations though, if you are looking for something, just tell.
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In article <1993Apr13.221704.4291@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes: >In article <rudyC5FxC8.DEu@netcom.com> rudy@netcom.com (Rudy Wade) writes: >>In article <1993Apr13.195301.22652@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes: >>>Guess which line is which: >>> BA OBP SLG AB H 2B 3B HR BB >>>X .310 .405 .427 571 177 27 8 8 87 >>>Y .312 .354 .455 657 205 32 1 20 35 >> >>>The walks should give it away. OBP's, in general, somewhat more valuable than >>>slugging, and Alomar's edge in OBP was quite a bit larger than Baerga's edge >>>in slugging. >> >>I'm no SDCN, but what's more valuable: >> >>28 hits w/5 more doubles, 12 more HRs OR >>7 more triples and 52 BBs? (Let's not forget the 39 extra SBs. How many CS?) > >Alomar had 9 CS. Baerga had 2. > >Don't forget the 59 more outs Baerga had (his GIDP balances out his CS, and >he had one more sacrifice than Alomar). A replacement level second baseman >could have had 17 hits, 5 walks, and a couple of XBH for the additional >outs Baerga had. A triple is little different than a home run. We're talking >exchanging almost 60 walks for six or seven home runs and four doubles. I >would say the almost-60 walks are more valuable. Also, Alomar got a FAR greater boost from his home park than Baerga did from his. And "six or seven home runs"? Hmm. So, if you wanted to pick a second baseman to play in Toronto, you'd take Alomar. Anywhere else, and you'd probably take Baerga. Mike -- Disclaimer - These opiini^H^H damn! ^H^H ^Q ^[ .... :w :q :wq :wq! ^d ^X ^? exit X Q ^C ^? :quitbye CtrlAltDel ~~q :~q logout save/quit :!QUIT ^[zz ^[ZZZZZZ ^vi man vi ^@ ^L ^[c ^# ^E ^X ^I ^T ? help helpquit ^D ^d !! man help ^C ^c :e! help exit ?Quit ?q CtrlShftDel "Hey, what does Stop L1A d..."
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In article <C5un2y.7Jn@apollo.hp.com> goykhman@apollo.hp.com (Red Herring) writes: >In article <1483500348@igc.apc.org> Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org> writes: >> >>From: Center for Policy Research <cpr> >>Subject: Unconventional peace proposal >> >>A unconventional proposal for peace in the Middle-East. >>---------------------------------------------------------- by >> Elias Davidsson >>Having stated my assumptions, I will now state my proposal. >> >>1. A Fund should be established which would disburse grants >>for each child born to a couple where one partner is Israeli-Jew >>and the other Palestinian-Arab. >... >>5. The emergence of a considerable number of 'mixed' >>marriages in Israel/Palestine, all of whom would have relatives on >>'both sides' of the divide, would make the conflict lose its >>ethnical and unsoluble core and strengthen the emergence of a >>truly civil society. The existence of a strong 'mixed' stock of >>people would also help the integration of Israeli society into the > > Sounds just like a racial theory that Hitler outlined in Mein Kampf. Someone else said something similar. I will not comment on the value or lack of value of Elias's "proposal". I just want to say that it is very distressing that at least two people here are profoundly ignorant of Nazi racial doctrine. They were NOT like Elias's idea, they were more like the opposite. Nazis believed in racial purity, not racial assimilation. An instructive example is the Nazi attitude to Gypsies. According to Nazi theoreticians, Gypsies were an Aryan race. They were persecuted, and in huge numbers murdered, because most European Gypies were considered not pure Gypsies but "mongrels" formed from the pure Gypsy race and other undesirable races. This was the key difference between the theoretical approach to Jews and Gypsies, by the way. It is also true that towards the end of WWII even the "purist" Gypsies were hunted down as the theory was forgotten. Brendan. (email: bdm@cs.anu.edu.au)
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drand@spinner.osf.org (Douglas S. Rand) writes: > Hams can legally run up to 1500 watts. It is very unlikely, however, > that a ham would be running that kind of power from a car. > >Not possible either. You'd need about a 300 amp alternator for >just the amplifier. It is too possible. As the original poster said "it is very unlikely" but definately possible. (Can you say batteries?)
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In article <1993Apr22.093956@is.morgan.com> sergei@is.morgan.com (Sergei Poliakoff) writes: >From: sergei@is.morgan.com (Sergei Poliakoff) >Subject: Re: WARNING.....(please read)... >Keywords: BRICK, TRUCK, DANGER >Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1993 13:39:56 GMT >In article <1993Apr20.223113.21666@voodoo.ca.boeing.com>, tomm@hank.ca.boeing.com (Tom Mackey) writes: >|> In article <C5JoIt.E31@bcstec.ca.boeing.com> neil@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Neil Williams) writes: >|> >a reformatory for juviniles a few blocks away. They caught the 14 year old >|> >that did it. They put a cover over the overpass, what else could they do? >|> >|> Execute the juvi on the grounds of the reformatory, required attendendence >|> by the rest of the inmates, as soon as possible after the incident and a >|> quick sure trial. I am quite serious. Cause and effect. Nothing else >|> will ever make a dent. > >This will not work. Hitler-youth, Newark teenager car stealing epidemics , >student riots and other similar cases show that death is not a >behaviour-shaping or even intimidating factor for teenagers. >Teens defy death. I is a strong deterent to the teens that are executed. They won't do that again! This policy cuts way down on repeat offenders. Please do not flame me - I don't agree with capital punishment for teen's. > >As far as rock throwing is concerned : well, it is very sad and tragic. >Most of these incidents stem from the fact that these kids are DUMB, >even smarter ones completely lack deductive thinking and can't foresee >the consequences of their actions beyond immediate ones. >Unfortunately, dumbness and cars whizzing at 80 mph make an explosive >mix. They are also unsupervised. With proper supervision, they would not be throwing rocks. If parents cannot provide the minimal supervision needed to stop this activity, they should not be allowed to have children :-) Notice the smiley ;-) >However, I hardly believe there was intent to kill in most of these cases, >rather desire to see the shattering glass (I admit I was mercilessly >attacking Moscow busses with a slingshot in my tender years), akin to >a child breaking toys. I witnessed several even more endeavouring >projects : like stacking up bricks on a railroad track. Technical >details of such a venture completely dominate the possibility of >a human tradegy (heck, when you are 10, you have a vague concept of >human tradegy) in a mind of a youngster. I'm quite sure that technical >challenge of matching and predicting speed of a thrown stone so that it >gets the car smack in the windshield completely occupies the teen, >not leaving much room for other considerations. > > >Sergei > > -------------------------------------------------------- Ron Stafford TEXAS INSTRUMENTS INCORPORATED (214) 917-2050 P.O.Box 655012, MS 3620 STAFFORD@LOBBY.TI.COM Dallas, Texas 75265-3620
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I have heard that there is something called a $25.00 Network that allows two PC's to be networked by joining their serial ports. Does someone out there know anything about this? I would greatly appreciate e-mail on this! Thanks! tschewe@first.etc.bc.ca :wq
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Hi, I was wondering if anyone out there knows of any books that give helpful hints and tips on writing thesis papers in WfW. I know about the dissertation template that comes with word but I want more. I would like to have tips on how to use all the {seq ...} , {bookmark ...} , {index ...} , { chapter ...}, fields that are available in word. I have looked through the help files,etc. but they really don't explain a whole lot. I will post the results(That means email me first) if I get a lot of different suggestions since I think this might be of help to lots of crazy grad students such as myself. Thanks. Brian Servis p.s. How do you change the font that Help uses when printing a topic? The default is so choppy and hard to read. =========================================================================== || servis@author.ecn.purdue.edu || "It Happened This Way" || ===================================|| actual quotes from insurance claims|| || What I say may not be what I || || || think. What I say may not be || "The pedestrian had no idea which || || what Purdue thinks. || way to go, so I ran him over." || ===========================================================================
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In article <GERRY.93Apr21132149@onion.cmu.edu> gerry@cmu.edu (Gerry Roston) writes: >Sigh, I was waiting some some not-so-intelligent person to bring this >up. Look, this is a country of laws. To quote a piece of parchment >that many seem to think is of little importance: > > 4th Amendment > The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, > papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, > shall not be violated; and no warrants shall issue, but upon > probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and > particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons > or things to be seized. > >No, a no-knock warrant is in clear violation of the 4th amendment. >Okay, what about the fact that they were tipped off - they shouldn't >have opened fire - right? WRONG! Think about this: I am a drug >dealer and my competition wants to do away with me. They call me and >tell me that the Feds are on their way with a no-knock warrant. So, >being moronic sheep we wait, with our guns holstered. Now, instead of >the Feds, in comes my competition, and we're history. The only >acceptable answer to a no-knock warrant is blazing guns! I may sound >paranoid, but our government is out of control, and killing a few >federal officers make knock some sense back into it. > I assume you are saying that no-knock warrants are 'unreasonable', this is a matter of opinion and is not a CLEAR violation of the 4th admendment. You say that 'this is a country of laws' yet you seem very willing to ignore these laws, or at least those you disagree with, and respond to a legal situation with 'blazing guns'. Like it or not, as it stands now no-knock warrants are legal. If you don't like this there are legal means to fight this including contacting your congresspersons about changing the law; and, if it happens to you, fighting its legality in court. Richard
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