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In article <1993Apr20.190606.13801@kpc.com> henrik@quayle.kpc.com writes: DA] Armenia is involved in fighting with Azarbaijan. It is Armenian DA] soldiers from mainland Armenia that are shelling towns in Azarbaijan. > Well, this is your opinion ! Are you related to 'Arromdian' of ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism and Revisionism Triangle? If you feel that you can simply act as a fascist Armenian governmental crony in this forum you will be sadly mistaken and duly embarrassed. This is not a lecture to another historical revisionist and a genocide apologist, but a fact. This time, fascist x-Soviet Armenian Government will not get away with the genocide of 204,000 Azeri men, women and children. Not a chance. > The SUNDAY TIMES 8 March 1992 > Morgues fill as Azeris head for all-out war ------------------------------------------- > Thomas Goltz, the first to report the massacre by Armenian soldiers in the worst violence since the breakup of the Soviet Union, reports from Agdam ------ > Khojaly used to be a barren town, with empty shops and treeless dirt roads. Yet it was still home to thousands of people who, in happier times, tended fields and flocks of geese. Last week it was wiped off the map. > ....... > As sickening reports trickled in to the Azerbaijani border town of Agdam, and the bodies piled up in the morgues, there was little doubt that Khojaly and the stark foothills and gullies around it had been the site of the most terrible massacre since the Soviet Union broke apart. ....... > I was the last Westerner to visit Khojaly. That was in january and people were predicting their fate with grim resignation. Zumrut Ezoya, a mother of four on board the helicopter that ferried us into the town, called her community "sitting ducks, ready to get shot". She and her family were among the victims of the massacre on February 26. ....... > "The Armenians have taken all the outlying villages, one by one, and the government does nothing." Balakisi Sakikov, 55, a father of five, said. "Next they will drive us out or kill us all," said Dilbar, his wife. The couple, their three sons and three daughters were killed in the assault, as were many other people I had spoken to. ...... > "It was close to the Armenian lines we knew we would have to cross. There was a road, and the first units of the column ran across then all hell broke loose. Bullets were raining down from all sides. we had just entered their trap." > The azeri defenders picked off one by one. Survivors say that Armenian forces then began a pitiless slaughter, firing at anything moved in the gullies. A video taken by an azeri cameraman, wailing and crying as he filmed body after body, showed a grizzly trail of death leading towards higher, forested ground where the villagers had sought refuge from the Armenians. > "The Armenians just shot and shot and shot," said Omar Veyselov, lying in hospital in Agdam with sharapnel wounds. "I saw my wife and daughter fall right by me." > People wandered through the hospital corridors looking for news of the loved ones. Some vented their fury on foreigners: " Where is my daughter, where is my son ?" wailed a mother. "Raped. Butchered. Lost." > Azerbaijan has said as many as 1,000 refugees were killed as they tried to flee. The Armenians have denied this, saying the civilians were caught in "crossfire". ....... > Source: The Times, 2 March 1992. CORPSES LITTER HILLS IN KARABAKH ANATOL LIEVEN COMES UNDER FIRE WHILE FLYING WITH AZERBAIJANI FORCES TO INVESTIGATE THE ALLEGED MASS KILLINGS OF REFUGEES BY ARMENIAN TROOPS... As we swooped low over the snow-covered hills of Nagorno-Karabagh we saw the scattered corpses. Apparently, the refugees had been shot down as they ran. An Azerbaijani film of the places we flew over, shown to journalists afterwards, showed DOZENS OF CORPSES lying in various parts of the hills. The Azerbaijanis claim that AS MANY AS 1000 have died in a MASS KILLING of AZERBAIJANIS fleeing from the town of Khodjaly, seized by Armenians last week. A further 4,000 are believed to be wounded, frozen to death or missing... Seven of us squatted in the cabin of an Azerbaijani M24 attack helicopter as we flew to investigate the claims of the mass killings. Suddenly there was a thump against the underside of the aircraft, a red flash of tracer ripped past the starboard wing, and the helicopter rocked sharply. We swung round, and there was a deafening burst of fire from the cannon under our wing as the helicopter crew returned fire. We had been fired on from an Armenian anti-aircraft post. We swung round again, tipped to starboard and appeared to dive straight down into a valley. The brown earth swooped around our heads, the helicopter swung round again and followed the contours of the ground. Our cannon fired repeated blasts. Later it emerged that a civilian helicopter that we had been escorting had landed successfully at Nakhichevanik in the east of the disputed enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh, to pick up some of the dead. We had, in fact, been attacked both by ground fire and by an Armenian helicopter. I had seen the Armenian helicopter intermittently through the window, its cannons firing, but had thought - mistakenly - that it was on "our side". Our group of Western journalists had embarked on a search-and-rescue flight that had become a combat mission. Our flight consisted of the civilian passenger helicopter and two M24 Soviet attack helicopters in the Azerbaijani service, nicknamed flying crocodiles for their armour. Our party was in the second crocodile. The civilian helicopter's job was to land in the mountains and pick up bodies at sites of the mass killings. The attack helicopters were there to give covering fire if necessary. The operation showed a striking sign of the disintegration of the Soviet armed forces because our pilot was a Russian officer. An Azerbaijani official told us that there were now five former Soviet military helicopters -and their pilots- fighting for Azerbaijan. "They have signed contracts to fly for us," he said. The helicopter we engaged in combat was most probably flown by a brother-officer of our Russian pilot, but fighting for the Armenians. We had taken off just before 5pm on Saturday from Agdam airfield, an heated for the Armenian-controlled mountains of Karabakh, a sheer white wall in the distance. The civilian helicopter picked up four corpses, and it was during this and a previous mission that an Azerbaijani cameraman filmed the several the several dozen bodies on the hillsides. We then took off again in a hurry and speed back towards Azerbaijani lines. Azerbaijani gunners on the last hill before the plain - and safety - gazed up at us as we passed. Back at the airfield in Agdam, we took a look the bodies the civilian helicopter had picked up. Two old men a small girl were covered with blood, their limbs contorted by the cold and rigor mortis. They had been shot. What did our Russian pilot think of the tragedy, our close shave, and the war in Nagorno-Karabakh? He gave us CHEERFUL GRIN, POLITELY DECLINED TO ANSWER QUES TIONS, AND MARCHED OFF TO HIS DINNER. Serdar Argic 'We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as ways of escape for the Turks and then proceeded in the work of extermination.' (Ohanus Appressian - 1919) 'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
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In article <Apr.21.03.26.43.1993.1373@geneva.rutgers.edu> parkin@Eng.Sun.COM writes: >desperately wanted the Jewish people to accept him as the Messiah. If >the crucification was the will of God how could Jesus pray that this >cup pass from him. Was this out of weakness. NEVER. Many men and >women have given their lives for their country or other noble causes. >Is Jesus less than these. No he is not. He knew the crucification >was NOT the will of GOD. God's will was that the Jewish people accept >Jesus as the Messiah and that the kingdom of Heaven be established on >the earth with Jesus as it's head. (Just like the Jewish people >expected). If this had happened 2000 years ago can you imagine what . . . Why do you assume that Jesus's plea to His Father "to let this cup pass from Him", was merely a plea to escape death? When I look at Jesus in the garden, I see a Man-God, who all His life had had the presense of His Father with Him. As a result, He knew every detail about His death long before the Agony in the Garden. But as that hour approached, He felt abandoned by His Father, His presense diminishing with each passing minute. In addition, it was brought more and more to Jesus's attention (the betrayal of Judas was probably a big impact) that His suffering would be to no avail for many people, especially those who would reject Him, not only then but in the future. I truly believe that the majority of Jesus's suffering was mental and spiritual, while the physical portion was only the tip of the iceburg. BTW, we know from John's account that Jesus *shunned* becomming an earthly king. From John: JOH 6:14 After the people saw the miraculous sign that Jesus did, they began to say, "Surely this is the Prophet who is to come into the world." JOH 6:15 Jesus, knowing that they intended to come and make him king by force, withdrew again to a mountain by himself. This does not seem like a man who would regret not becoming an earthly king. No, Jesus knew His mission was to redeem all (Jew & Gentile) people and establish His kingdom in the hearts of those who would believe. This was utterly mistaken, much to Jesus's dismay, as an aspiration to some earthly kingdom. But He knew what His Father's will was and followed it obediently even in the darkness of His Passion. -- John G. Ata - Technical Consultant | Internet: ata@hfsi.com HFS, Inc. VA20 | UUCP: uunet!hfsi!ata 7900 Westpark Drive MS:601 | Voice: (703) 827-6810 McLean, VA 22102 | FAX: (703) 827-3729
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In article <1pqhkl$g48@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ai598@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Sturdevant) writes... > When I got my knee rebuilt I got back on the street bike ASAP. I put >the crutches on the rack and the passenger seat and they hung out back a >LONG way. Just make sure they're tied down tight in front and no problemo. ^^^^ Hmm, sounds like a useful trick -- it'd keep the local cagers at least a crutch-length off my tail-light, which is more than they give me now. But do I have to break a leg to use it? (When I broke my ankle dirt-biking, I ended up strapping the crutches to the back of the bike & riding to the lab. It was my right ankle, but the bike was a GT380 and started easily by hand.) Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH. ivan@cvax.psi.ch GSX600F, RG250WD. "Beware drainage ditches on firetrails" DoD #484
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In article <1993Apr15.150938.975@news.wesleyan.edu> SSAUYET@eagle.wesleyan.edu (SCOTT D. SAUYET) writes: >In <1qabe7INNaff@gap.caltech.edu> keith@cco.caltech.edu writes: > >>> Chimpanzees fight wars over land. >> >> But chimps are almost human... >> >> keith > >Could it be? This is the last message from Mr. Schneider, and it's >more than three days old! > >Are these his final words? (And how many here would find that >appropriate?) Or is it just that finals got in the way? > No. The christians were leary of having an atheist spokesman (seems so clandestine, and all that), so they had him removed. Of course, Keith is busy explaining to his fellow captives how he isn't really being persecuted, since (after all) they *are* feeding him, and any resistance on his part would only be viewed as trouble making. I understand he did make a bit of a fuss when they tatooed "In God We Trust" on his forehead, though. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Bob Beauchaine bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM They said that Queens could stay, they blew the Bronx away, and sank Manhattan out at sea. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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In article <C5r9BM.2LH@mach1.wlu.ca> mart4678@mach1.wlu.ca (Phil Martin u) writes: !Chris Herringshaw (tdawson@engin.umich.edu) wrote: !: Concerning the proposed newsgroup split, I personally am not in favor of !: doing this. I learn an awful lot about all aspects of graphics by reading !: this group, from code to hardware to algorithms. I just think making 5 !: different groups out of this is a wate, and will only result in a few posts !: a week per group. I kind of like the convenience of having one big forum !: for discussing all aspects of graphics. Anyone else feel this way? !: Just curious. ! !Yes. I also like knowing where to go to ask a question without getting !hell for putting it in the wrong newsgroup. I am also against splitting the group. The traffic will decrease on any given subject but the required net bandwidth will INCREASE because of multiply cross-postings. I just went through this with another group I continuously read. It is now almost at the point where it is no longer worth reading. Strongly suggest NOT doing this. Dave Rogers
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(Mohammed Elabdellaoui) writes: > >Muslims helping the Nazis??? Where on earth do you come up with such >accuusation?? Do you have proofs?? If not, you should publically apologize >for such a statement. Last time I heard, the nazis prided themselves in >needing no body to carry their politics and ideologies. And if your statment >were true, don't you think Israel would of used it to point to what a Muslim >neighbor (PALESTINE) could do to them if they allowed it to be? The jewish >lobby and power is very strong, and if what you said is true, we would of >heard it from them before you could come up with it. >And you dare say that you are taking no sides!! My reference is a 4 page essay in our local Star Tribute newspaper putting the whole conflict in perspective. I will readily admit that I am no authority in this area; however, other posteers asserted that *some* Muslims did join hands with Croats and Nazis in persecuting Serbs. In any case, past actions do not in any way validate or legitimize what is happending there now. I sincerely do apologize to the extent the author of the essay was wrong in making the assertion he made. Maybe, some student of history may put this in perspective. Satya Prabhakar --
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In article <1r3j2lINNf13@clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk> csulo@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr M J Brown) writes: > > Hopefully this should sort it all out .... not bad for 9 quid (normally ^^^^^^ Pardon my ignorance of foreign currency and exchange rates, but what is a quid, how does it relate to the British Pound (or whatever it's called) and what is that in American Dollars??? :-) Thanks! Mark S. Underwood EE Student, University of Kentucky Lab Assistant, Boyd Hall Microlab (a tiny little division of UK Library Microlabs) E-Mail: msunde01@mik.uky.edu
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Actually if Mr X had something to gain by his claims his account of the events would nmot be the most respected. Case and point, the resurrection. By claiming that the resurrection actually happened the early preachers were able to convert many to Christianity. However, if you read Mathew 27:38 (?) and the case for the resurrected saints who walked around Jerusalem and appeared to "many People" you would realize that other historians (Josephus for one) would have reported on it all if it happened. The fact that the Bible speaks of events of such great magnitude that they would have been noticed taken with the fact that they are not reported on by historians could only mean that the bible contains many made up stories.
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I'm writting letters to my Congresscritters and was wondering if there is any reason(s) why I should NOT support the following Bills, other than the previous comments about S.458. Just checking before I mail the letter to make sure I don't support something that I really shouldn't. ----------------- I strongly SUPPORT the following laws currently being considered in Congress as they would either have a positive effect towards reducing crime, or re- enforce our Constitutional right under the 2nd amendment. * S. 441 (Campbell) To amend title 18, United States Code, to provide a mandatory minimum sentence for the unlawful possession of a firearm by a convicted felon, a fugitive from justice, a person who is addicted to, or an unlawful user of, a controlled substance, or a transferor or receiver of a stolen firearm, to increase the general penalty for violation of Federal firearms laws, and to increase the enhanced penalties provided for the possession of a firearm in connection with a crime of violence or drug trafficking crime, and for other purposes. * S.458 (Smith) To restore the second Amendment Rights of all Americans. * S.488 (Specter) To provide Federal penalties for drive-by shootings. * S.504 (Kohl) To amend section 924 of title 18, United States Code to make it a Federal crime to steal a firearm or explosives in interstate or foreign commerce. Bill Vojak vojak@icebucket.stortek.com NRA, ILA, Colorado Firearms Coalition ----------------------------------------------------------------- Here's a story, bout a man named Brady, who took a .22 bullet in his head. Even though he can act perfectly normal, he prefers to pretend he's brain dead. Here's a story, bout a woman named Brady, who had nothing to do but sit around all day. Then her husband became a media martyr, now she wants to take all your guns away. The Brady Bunch, The Brady Bunch, This is how we got stuck with the Brady Bunch. . . . . -----------------------------------------------------------------
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In article <1qc5f0$3ad@moe.ksu.ksu.edu> bparker@uafhp..uark.edu (Brian Parker) writes: > Hello world of Motorcyles lovers/soon-to-be-lovers! >I have started a discussion list on the internet for people interested in >talking Bikes! We discuss anything and everything. If you are interested in >joining, drop me a line. Since it really isn't a 'list', what we do is if you >have a post, you send it to me and I distribute it to everyone. C'mon...join >and enjoy! Huh? Did this guy just invent wreck.motorcycles? Curious minds want to know. Charlie Smith charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org KotdohL KotWitDoDL 1KSPI=22.85 DoD #0709 doh #0000000004 & AMA, MOA, RA, Buckey Beemers, BK Ohio V BMW K1100-LT, R80-GS/PD, R27, Triumph TR6 Columbus, Ohio USA
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In <1993Apr24.114156.19354@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> wongda@eecg.toronto.edu (Daniel Y.H. Wong) writes: >I am looking for the latest drivers for the Actix graphics accelerator card. >The driver I am currently using is version 1.21 and doesn't support more >than 256 colors in 1024x768 mode even you have 2MB memory. >The BBS support for Actix is unbelievable! They are still using 2400bps >modem! It will take you hours to download the drivers, it hurts when you >are calling long distance. Is there any ftp site that has a collection >of video drivers for windows? >BTW, anyone using this card, and how do you like it so far? good but where are these drivers?? >Daniel Y.H. Wong UofT:(416)978-1659 anybody at Actix listening? Upload the dang drivers to an ftp site pleeeeeeese?! cheers, Kym _______________________________________________________________________________ Kym A. Burgemeister Department of Mechanical Engineering University of Adelaide South Australia Ph. +61 8 228 4713 5005 Facs. +61 8 224 0464 e-mail to : kburg@aelmg.adelaide.edu.au ===============================================================================
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Where did the hacker ethic go? We hackers of the 70's and 80' are now comfortably employed and supporting families. The next generation takes the radical lead now. Don't look for radicalism among us old ones; we're gone... -- grady@netcom.com 2EF221 / 15 E2 AD D3 D1 C6 F3 FC 58 AC F7 3D 4F 01 1E 2F
1comp.graphics
Would someone please email me the pinout for a PS/2 6-pin mini DIN mouse port? I'm trying to make an adapter for a serial mouse, and the dealer who knows what adapter works with the mouse I bought doesn't have it in stock. I have several different adapters, but none of them make sense based on what sketchy information I have about the port (they have connections to "reserved" pins). -- Bob Nichols AT&T Bell Laboratories rnichols@ihlpm.ih.att.com
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isaackuo@skippy.berkeley.edu (Isaac Kuo) states in reply to deleted article about no-knock searches, arrests >Hmm. The police strategy of bursting in with weapons drawn, clearly >marked as officers and yelling "Police" repeatedly. This is used every >day to bust drug houses. The idea is to awe the suspects into >submission with surprise and display of firepowere in order to avoid a >gun fight. As for not knocking, it's a sad necessity in many cases >since the suspects will attempt to escape or even fight. Usually this >strategy works; if it didn't, then it wouldn't be used so commonly, now >would it? In general no-knock raids are to preserve evidence, like drugs, which can be flushed down the toilet. They are not the standard way to arrest a violent felon like a bank robber. If there is no need to search or preserve evidence they will just surround the dwelling and order the suspect to come out with her hands up. If the suspect does not come out tear gas will be used. comment on the BD omitted >I merely point out that it IS a valid strategy which is used every day. >Furthermore, we don't know of any substitute strategy capable of >apprehending potentially dangerous and armed suspects. Do you suggest It is not a method to apprehend criminals. >that the police always knock with guns holstered and never arrest any >suspects until they have been allowed to inspect the officers's badges? >Just what should the police do when apprehending potentially dangerous >and armed suspects? How far can they reasonably go to identity >themselves? What do you suggest they can do which can't be faked by the >"competition"? It is a very dangerous method to obtain evidence that might be destroyed if a warrant is served in the normal way. It is the most dangerous way to arrest anyone. The cops are charging into a room and they don't know what is in it. It is much safer to surround the place and announce yourself. >Even if you've got deadly enemies who may pretend to be cops, that's >not an excuse to murder police. In the case of the BD's, there was >almost definitely at most the paranoid delusion of deadly enimies who >would pretend to be cops. Cops are not cops _until_ they identify themselves as police officers. Most drug dealers and professional criminals are aware of the likelihood of arrest but they also know how the system works. If they are arrested they call their lawyer, post bail and hope for a plea bargain. If they pull a gun and shoot a cop during a raid they will be charged with first degree murder if they survive the raid. Drug dealers have guns for protection from their customers and other criminals, not to shoot cops. Cops are shot on no-knock drug raids because the criminals aren't aware that they are cops. No-knock raids on homes occupied by non-criminals are more likely to end in disaster. Mom and Pop citizen _KNOW_ that they have not committed any crime, they KNOW that anyone breaking into their house cannot be a cop because they have done nothing wrong. If they have the means to defend themselves they may because they KNOW that the housebreakers are criminals not cops. Cops and homeowners may die. The first reports from Waco stated that the ATF had a warrant to search for illegal weapons and also an arrest warrant if the illegal weapons were found. In this case the no-knock warrant was not called for. It is difficult to flush a gun down the toilet. The ATF could have surrounded the compound. A marked police car could have driven up to the entrance and uniformed officers could have knocked and served the warrant usual way. It this had happened and and Koresh refused the warrant or drove the cops off at gun point then most of the t.p.g folks would have kept quiet. -- Rod Anderson N0NZO | "I do not think the United States government Boulder, CO | is responsible for the fact that a bunch of rcanders@nyx.cs.du.edu | fanatics decided to kill themselves" satellite N0NZO on ao-16 | Slick Willie the Compassionate
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In article <1rcboi$j4a@access.digex.net> steve-b@access.digex.com (Steve Brinich) writes: [...] > FEDS: We need the keys to Joe Blow's phone. > > ESCROW AGENT: Joe Blow? You have a warrant to tap his line? > > FEDS: Well, no, but we have a warrant to tap Carlos "Slime-Devil" Gonzales' > line, and our tap shows that Mr. Gonzales is using Mr. Blow's phone. > > ESCROW AGENT: Well, OK.... No no no no no no no. It will go like this: FEDS: We need the key to phone 334RE67D99. ESCROW: You have a warrant to tap the line phone 334RE67D99 is on? FEDS: Yes. ESCROW: Fine, here is our key. What happens is, Feds tap a line; find Clipper is being used; extract serial number; get key; decipher convo. The serial number is never registered to a specific owner, it is _sent_ as part of the conversation. If I give you my Clipper phone, you do not need to re-register it (mainly because it was never 'registered' to me in the first place). There are a lot of things that bother me about Clipper, but this is not one of them. Let's get our facts straight and not waste effort demolishing straw men. RA rogue@cs.neu.edu (Rogue Agent/SoD!) ----------------------------------- The NSA is now funding research not only in cryptography, but in all areas of advanced mathematics. If you'd like a circular describing these new research opportunities, just pick up your phone, call your mother, and ask for one.
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In <1993Apr5.165056.9867@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes: >In article <1993Apr1.214936.27856@martha.utcc.utk.edu> PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal) writes: >>In article <1993Apr1.181711.9172@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes: >>>In article <sandvik-310393202727@sandvik-kent.apple.com> sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes: >>>>In article <1pdi47$3mo@agate.berkeley.edu>, dzkriz@ocf.berkeley.edu (Dennis >>>>Kriz) wrote: >>>>> But Clinton's proposal now sounds like something out of Soylent >>>>> Green. To accept its premise, one is expected to believe that >>>>> the only way we can have a decent medical system in this country >>>>> is to accept an annual federally supported blood sacrifice in the >>>>> form of hundreds of thousands of publicly provided/funded >>>>> abortions. It's ridiculous. It's offensive. And it's an >>>>> absolute insult to our collective intelligence. >>>> >>>>We already kill people (death penalty), and that costs even more >>>>money, so you could as well complain about this extremely barbaric >>>>way of justice. >>> >>>But the death penalty is right. >> >> The death penalty is usually administered at the state level. >>How many federal crimes get the death penalty? >> >>>And how expensive can an execution be? I mean, I think rope, cyanide >>>(for the gas), or the rifles and ammunition to arm firing squads are >>>affordable. >>> >>>Now, perhaps lethal injection might be expensive, in that case, let's >>>return to the more efficient methods employed in the past. >> >> Executions are cheap. Appeals are the expensive part. >Then eliminate the appeals. Sounds simple enough to me. No doubt you base this on your assumption that a jury of attack puppies would never find an innocent person guilty? >Simon TOG
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Carl Lydick: > And you're condemning one particular ingredient without any > evidence that that's the ingredient to which you reacted. Believe what you will. The mass of anectdotal evidence, combined with the lack of a properly constructed scientific experiment disproving the hypothesis, makes the MSG reaction hypothesis the most likely explanation for events. Steve
13sci.med
In <1993Apr13.190225.29001@newshub.ists.ca> dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (Deepak Chhabra) writes: >On March 21, 1993 Roger Maynard wrote (in reply to an article by Graham >Hudson): >>You don't think he is performing "under pressure" now? The major >>differences between playoff hockey and normal hockey is 1. play- >>ing every other night which is physically exhausting and 2. You >>play the same team in a consecutive string of games. Is this >>what you mean by pressure? Have you even thought about what you >>mean by pressure, or are your thoughts, like most of the rest of >>this drivel, simply half-baked? >This was <1993Mar21.223936.6192@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca>, for anybody who >would like to check. >He went on (in another article) to say [paraphrased] >>"Playoff hockey" is just an expression used by announcers to convince >>simple-minded folks like yourself that what you are seeing is a better >>product than a regular-season game. >*NOW*, however, in article <1993Apr12.013939.23016@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> >(Roger Maynard) writes: >>With a 4-2 win over a tough Whaler squad the Leafs showed all doubters >>what playoff hockey is all about. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >So, Roger, what exactly *is* playoff hockey all about? Or is it a convenient >phrase to use in certain circumstances only? >You see, when you spout off with flame bait too many times, sooner or later >it catches up with you.... Nice try Deepak, but "tough Whaler squad" should have clued you in to the fact that my Leaf woofing was tongue-in-cheek. If playoff hockey is any more intense than the regular season variety then it is because the teams are facing each other at least 4 consecutive times in 7 days and hockey being the contact sport that it is, some things will be carried over that might dissipate during the regular season. But that is only for some of the players. Many of the rest, who have been playing with injuries, who miss their families, or who, like Grant Fuhr, would really rather be playing golf, don't really give a damn. Of course I can't say this for sure, but I believe that this is fairly typical of human nature and I don't think that hockey players are above having what I consider typically human attitudes. With the recent salary escalations the key players are actually losing money by participating in the playoffs. The ones who regard the playoff "take" as some kind of a bonanza are fringe players who are unlikely to consistently be a force in the playoffs. Now I know some of you are going to come back with "winning spirit" and all of that crap but these players are professionals after all. While they may love to play the game that love is entirely incidental to their purpose, which is, to make a decent living. Of course, the coach is a professional as well, and part of what he is being paid to do is motivate the players. So, if the coach does his job well enough the players may respond with a winning effort. The second season, is after all, merely an exhibition. The true Champions of the league are the division winners, the teams that come out on top after the long struggle of the season. The Stanley cup playoffs merely accord victory to the team that has remained healthy and "hot". The emphasis on the playoffs, with their "sudden death" appeal has been promoted by the media and the owners with profit purely in mind. Even if Pittsburgh loses the playoffs, we all know that they were really the best team in the league over the year. They proved it. cordially, as always, rm -- Roger Maynard maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca
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In article <1rhnb4$1pp@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cy779@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Anas Omran) writes: > In a previous article, adam@endor.uucp (Adam Shostack) says: > > >In article <2BDAD779.24910@news.service.uci.edu> tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu (Tim Clock) writes: > >>In article <AMOSS.93Apr25163327@shuldig.cs.huji.ac.il> amoss@shuldig.cs.huji.ac.il (Amos Shapira) writes: > >>>cy779@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Anas Omran) writes: > > > >>>Eh???? Could you please give me details about an event where a "Neutral > >>>Observer" was killed by purpose by an Israeli soldier? > > > > There are many cases, but I do not remeber names. The Isralis shot and killed > a UN observer in Gaza in the first half of Intifada. >... Not exactly the same, but reminiscent of the assassination of Count Bernadotte, who was _the_ UN negotiator during the 1948 Israeli war of independence. He was killed by the Israelis. Seems he was being too successful in negotiating a cease-fire, which would have worked territorially against the nascent Israel, compared to continued war. -- =Jim eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert)
17talk.politics.mideast
In article <16BAFC876.I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de> I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Benedikt Rosenau) writes: >From: I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Benedikt Rosenau) >Subject: Re: ISLAM: a clearer view >Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1993 13:15:18 GMT >In article <healta.60.734567658@saturn.wwc.edu> >healta@saturn.wwc.edu (TAMMY R HEALY) writes: > >>>Sorry, it is generally accepted that the rise of the inquisition is >>>the reason why torture was introduced outside the Romanic countries >>>at the end of the Middle Ages. In other words, the Holy Mother Church >>>which is lead infallibly by the Holy Ghost has spread it. >> >>The Roman Catholic Church claims to be lead by the "infallable" pope. >>That's why she (the RC Church) has done so many wicked things to Xtians and >>non-believers alike. > > >The rationale that the pope speaking ex cathedra is infallible is based >on the claim above. The dogma about the pope is of Jesuitic origin and >has not been been accepted before the mid of the last century. > Benedikt You're right. Thanks for enlightening me. Tammy
0alt.atheism
Is there anyone out there with a copy of the driver for Turtle Beach's Samplevision program that allows you to use a Always Tech IN-2000 SCSI card to do SMDI dumps between your PC and your Peavey DPM-SP / SX / SX2 ??? This is normally only available directly from Turtle Beach but I was just wondering if there was someone who got it and couldn't find a use for it.. If you have a copy let me know! cg132sad@icogsci1.ucsd.edu
6misc.forsale
I just got a copy of Tobias' Managing Your Money v9.0. I have Quicken 6, and it's wonderful for some things, but MYM seems to have some features that Q6 doesn't. For example, Q6 doesn't seem to be able to handle monthly automatic deductions from a checking account (you know, a monthly payment that gets electronically deducted every month from my checking account). Or is there something that I'm not doing right, and Q6 can actually do that? Anyway, MYM seems to be able to handle monthly deductions. In fact, it can apparently do better than that. That is, you can specify monthly, bimonthly, quarterly, even yearly. Anyway, is anyone aware of a comparitive study of the two programs? Or can someone just give me their own personal impressions? Maybe someone who has used both. Or maybe someone who is familiar with each could give me a capsule review? Anything would be greatly appreciated. If I keep MYM, I have to pay for it, and I don't know whether it's worth doing. If MYM is better than Q6, of course I will keep it. But if Q6 can do everything MYM can do (maybe even better), I won't. Thanks all! If you post a reply, please also cc me. Thanks.
2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
In an article Jon Noring writes: >In article rind@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu (David Rind) writes: >>Do you believe that any quacks exist? How about quack diagnoses? Is >true focus of the medical profession. The AMA and the Boards should focus >on these "quacks" instead of devoting unbelievable energy on 'search-and- >destroy-missions' to pull the licenses of those doctors who are trying non- >traditional or not fully accepted treatments for their desperate patients >that traditional/accepted medicine cannot help. If I prescribe itraconazole for a patient's sinusitis neither the AMA, FDA, State Licensing Board, nor ABFP will be knocking on my door to ask why. This is a specious argument. >on their backs and pee-pee on themselves in obedience. What do they teach >you in medical school - how to throw your authority around? Among other things, how to evaluate new theories and treatments. >Let me put it another way to make my point clear: "quack" is a nebulous word >lacking in any precision. Its sole use is to obfuscate the issues at hand. Funny, I thought it meant "one who fraudulently misrepresents his ability and experience in the diagnosis and treatment of disease or the effects to be achieved by the treatment he offers" (Dorland's 27th). Certainly more precision than conveyed by "chronic yeast". >The indiscriminate use of this word is a sure sign of incompetency; and coming >from any medical doctor (or wanna-be), where competency is expected, is real >scary. The inability to discriminate between fraudulent or erroneous representations is far more frightening. It is fraud to promote a treatment where the evidence for it is either lacking or against it and the quacksalver knows so, or error if the honest practitioner doesn't know so. Failure to speak out against either bespeaks incompetency. >(p.s., may I suggest - seriously - that if the doctors and wanna-be-doctors on >the net who refuse to have an open mind on alternative treatments and >theories, such as the "yeast theory", should create your own moderated group. May I reply - seriously - that if the practitioners and proponents of non-scientific medicine have left their minds so open that the parts of their brains that do critical evaluation have fallen out, they should learn to edit their newsgroup headers to conform to the existing hierarchy and divisions. -- John Angelo Gnassi Lab of Computer Science jgnassi@hstbme.mit.edu Massachusetts General Hospital "Eternal Student" Boston, Massachusetts, USA "The Earth be spanned, connected by a Network" - Walt Whitman
13sci.med
Mark Woodruff (CDA90038@UCF1VM.BITNET) wrote: > > This morning at 4 am while I was working on my research paper, I had to > reboot a hung Dos program (that did no disk i/o) from within Windows 3.1. > When my machine finished rebooting, I found my windows directory and about two > thirds of my other directories were irreversibly corrupted. > (stuff deleted) This sounds like what happened to my HD a month ago. My HD was stacked with Stacker v.2.0 (I run Dos5) Suddenly everything hung up, and most of the HD got corrupted (directories changed into unreadable files with 'funny' names). In other words: it is probably just the doubledisk part of Dos6 that is troublesome. I now use Stacker v 3.0, and so far I have had no trouble. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Elisabeth Bull e_mail: eliza@swix.nvg.unit.no --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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In sci.electronics, swanee@megadata.mega.oz.au (Geoff Swan) writes: > >Rubbish. The reason for the colour of the boards depends on the solder The May 1993 cover of QST has a picture of three different boards without any solder mask (you can tell from the copper colored traces). The box labeled 2304 transverter has the brown teflon/glass board, while the one in the center has the grayish board exposed. On the left is some fiberglass board that looks green to me. I see no reason for putting solder mask on circuit board used for box covers :-). I wonder if any manufacturer actually puts a solder mask on their low noise microwave preamps? Often, microwave circuits have odd bits of wire/foil/metal attached to wherever/whatever is necessary to make the unit work properly (this is a commercial product?). A solder mask would certainly make doing this tougher, never mind the finding something that minimally degrades the circuits. (Q dope for coils *does* not improve the Q--it just holds things together with minimal loss). Zack Lau KH6CP/1 Internet: zlau@arrl.org "Working" on 24 GHz SSB/CW gear Operating Interests: 10 GHz CW/SSB/FM US Mail: c/o ARRL Lab 80/40/20 CW 225 Main Street Station capability: QRP, 1.8 MHz to 10 GHz Newington CT 06111 modes: CW/SSB/FM/packet amtor/baudot Phone (if you really have to): 203-666-1541 Zack Lau KH6CP/1 Internet: zlau@arrl.org "Working" on 24 GHz SSB/CW gear Operating Interests: 10 GHz CW/SSB/FM US Mail: c/o ARRL Lab 80/40/20 CW 225 Main Street Station capability: QRP, 1.8 MHz to 10 GHz Newington CT 06111 modes: CW/SSB/FM/packet amtor/baudot Phone (if you really have to): 203-666-1541 >mask that is used. Older boards (bakelite and phenolic) rarely used >a solder mask (these boards are not suited well to automatic stuffing >and soldering techniques) and hence are the colour of the compound >used to make them. These days boards are made of fibreglass for most >general purpose uses and have a solder mask applied to them to prevent >close traces shorting to one another during soldering (and also to prevent >the decomposition of traces under harsh environments). The light and dark >green boards ofter seen have a "dry film" mask applied to them (usually >applied as a complete film photographically produced). The blue (and red >or orange) boards are a two-part epoxy or a liquid-imageable resist >formulation and are applied in a different manner. There's a lot of info >about the pro's and con's of each, but that's another story... > > Sla/n go fo/ill, > Risky B. >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Geoff Swan (research & development) _--_|\ swanee@mega.com.au >Megadata Pty Ltd / \ >2/37 Waterloo Rd, North Ryde, \_.--._/ +61 2 805 0899 >NSW 2113, Australia. v (Fax) +61 2 887 4847 > > > >
12sci.electronics
My Honda Accord just hit the magic 100,000 mile mark and now all sorts of things are beginning to go bad. The latest problem I am experiencing is with my brakes. They still stop the car fine, but once I am stopped completely, my brake pedal will sink another 2 or 3 inches all by itself. If feels really strange, and I am worried my brakes will quit working one of these days. I checked my brake fluid, and the reservoir was full, but the fluid itself looked really dirty (like dirty oil). I called my mechanic and he told me I need a new brake master cylinder, which will cost me a whopping $250-300. I was just wondering if anyone out there has experienced this sort of thing. If so, is my mechanic being honest? Or do I simply need to have my brakes bled and new fluid put in? Any help you could provide would be appreciated. Please send replies directly to me, as I rarely have a chance to read this list. I will post the responses if there is any interest. Thanks, Joni ciarlett@mizar.usc.edu
7rec.autos
In article <C5HHGM.1rM@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>, callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (James P. Callison) writes: | In article <1993Apr13.215605.26252@slcs.slb.com> dcd@se.houston.geoquest.slb.com (Dan Day) writes: | >In article <1q4466INNb85@ctron-news.ctron.com> smith@ctron.com writes: | >> | >>It's a big aftermarket business. Almost no cars come from the factory with | >>vynal any more, and any fake "convertible" job _definitely_ came from some | >>aftermarket place. What amazes me is how much people are willing to pay for | >>bad taste | > | >How about those really ugly fake wheel compartments stuck onto the | >trunk or side (or both sides!) of some tacky luxury cars? | | Some of 'em aren't fake (if you're talking about the Continental kit, | named after the Lincoln Continental, the first car to sport one). I | personally would _love_ to have a '56 T-Bird with a Continental kit | (and the supercharged V-8 :-); that is one of the most beautiful | cars ever built, IMHO. | | James | The Continental may have been the first "modern era" auto to mount the spare on the rear of the car but it was hardly the first car to sport one. Various mounting techniques for rear mounting the spare were quite common in early automobiles, both US and Foreign. -- Ken Franklin They say there's a heaven for people who wait AMA And some say it's better but I say it ain't GWRRA I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints DoD #0126 The sinners are lots more fun, Y'know only the good die young
7rec.autos
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2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Hi I am trying to implement a pointer feature in Xlib I have multiple windows and all can take input and show output simultaneously on all other displays I want to implement a pointer feature I would like to get the pointer to come up on all windows once I choose pointer in the menu and every one should be able to see it Can you give me some hints as to how I should proceed replies will be greatly appreciated Thank you Prakash < duvvuri@cs.odu.edu >
5comp.windows.x
I have 5 full reels of Ampex 456 2" recording tape. This tape was used once at 15 ips and carefully stored. All reel include an Ampex tape band. The tape has not been bulk erased to my knowledge. The history of the tape in know and available upon request. JMAR in Toronto sells new 2" 456 for $260+tax (Canadian) I would like $100CDN/reel which will include postage. Brett Maraldo - Plexus Productions ps. The reels are 2500' long; standard thickness. -- -------- Unit 36 Research --------- "Alien Technology Today" bmaraldo@watserv1.UWaterloo.ca {uunet!clyde!utai}!watserv1!bmaraldo
6misc.forsale
>Does anyone know where I can find a code which would take concave >polygons and break them up into a set of convex polygons? O I also would like code or algorithms to do this. In fact, I am interested in sources for code and/or algorithms that convert 2D graphical objects into other 2D graphical objects that will render into the same image. i.e. Bezier curves to B splines, or splines to circular arc segments, or B splines to polgons, etc... -- Michael Dillon Internet: mpdillon@halcyon.halcyon.com C-4 Powerhouse Fidonet: 1:353/350 RR #2 Armstrong, BC V0E 1B0 Voice: +1-604-546-8022 Canada BBS: +1-604-546-2705
1comp.graphics
Is there an "official extension" to X which allows the use of audio? Most of the X audio programs use system-specific ways to access the audio capabilities of the computer they run on. Is there a hardware-independent way to do this (like the video extension XV)? Thanks for any help. Erik Wilde (wilde@tik.ethz.ch) Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH Zuerich) Laboratory of Computer Engineering and Networks (TIK) ETH-Zentrum, ETZ G61.2, CH - 8092 Zuerich Phone: +41-1-254-7009 Fax: +41-1-251-2504
5comp.windows.x
sol.surv.utas.edu.au (Stephen Quan) writes: >>>>[...], but I'm looking for a fast polygon routine to be used in a 3D game. >>>A fast polygon routine to do WHAT? >>To draw polygons of course. Its a VGA mode 13h (320x200) game, [...] > >Hi, I've come across a fast triangle fill-draw routine for mode 13h. By >calling this routine enough times, you have a fast polygon drawing routine. > >I think I ftp'ed from wuarchive.wustl.edu:/pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS/programming. >I have a copy of it so I reupload it there. The triangle.txt file has this >to say : > >> C and inline assembly source for a VGA mode 13h triangle drawer. > Another source: There's a poly blitter for mode y (mode x in 320x200) at sunee.uwaterloo.ca. Also there is REND386, an even faster 3D renderer with VR extensions. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | My life is Hardware, | Dave Stampe | | my destiny is Software, | dstampe@psych.toronto.edu | | my CPU is Wetware... | dstampe@sunee.uwaterloo.ca | | Am I a techno-psychologist, or just a psycho-engineer ?? | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
1comp.graphics
Just a little something I found while reading the Village Voice, which is not noted for its sports coverage, but occasionally the print some interesting features. This year, the predictions/team analyses for the 1993 season were presented in the form of Bob Dylan lyrics. I don't have the article in front of me, so I'll only give the memorable ones here that I remember and know the melody to. I could dig up more if there is interest. Yankess (to the tune of "Subterranean Homesick Blues") Howe is in the basement, mixing up the medicine. George is on the pavement thinking 'bout the government. Wade Boggs in a trench coat, bat out, paid off, Says he's got a bad back, wants to get it laid off. Look out kids, it's somethin' you did. Don't know when, but it's Columbus again. Mets (to the tune of "Like a Rolling Stone") Once upon a time you played so fine you threw away Dykstra before his prime, didn't you? People said "Beware Cone, he's bound to roam" But you thought they were just kidding you. You used to laugh about, The Strawberry that was headin' out. But now you don't talk so loud, Now you don't seem so proud, About having to shop Vince Coleman for your next deal.... Phillies (to the tune of "Highway 61") Well Daulton and Dykstra should have some fun, Just keep them off of Highway 61! Giants (to the tune of "The Ballad of Rubin 'Hurricane' Carter") This is the story of the Magowan, The man St. Petersburg came to pan, For something that he never done, He sits in the owner's box but one... Day he could have been the Tampian of the world! _______________________________________________________________________________ Bill Moakler | LPO 10280 | !RUTGERS ANIME! moakler@remus.rutgers.edu| PO BOX 5064 | !ATLANTIC ANIME ALLIANCE! (908)-932-3465 |New Brunswick, NJ 08903| !CHIBI-CON '93! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am not an OTAKU; I am a FREE MAN!
9rec.sport.baseball
In article <1ql0ajINN2kj@gap.caltech.edu> keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) writes: >Well, chimps must have some system. They live in social groups >as we do, so they must have some "laws" dictating undesired behavior. Why "must"? --- " Whatever promises that have been made can than be broken. " John Laws, a man without the honor to keep his given word.
0alt.atheism
In article <Apr.17.06.54.41.1993.15825@romulus.rutgers.edu> kaldis@romulus.rutgers.edu (Theodore A. Kaldis) writes: >In article <C5K5LC.CyF@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> lfoard@hopper.Virginia.EDU (Lawrence C. Foard) writes: > >> 1) So what? > >So this bolsters the contention that many homosexuals are liars. So if this study is proved wrong then it proves that heterosexuals are liars? Unlike the propaganda spouted by the far right the ten percent figure was backed up by the best study available at the time. Its hardly certain that this new study is correct since it hasn't even been out for enough time for any double checking to happen. >The Alan Guttmacher Institute, btw, is funded by Planned Parenthood, >so it hardly qualifies as a bastion of conservatism, or of "family >values". Of course if they had found 10% then it would be invalid because it was funded by planned parenthood :) >> 2) It will be interesting to see the reaction when 2.5million queers >> gather in Washington DC. After all if there are only 6million of >> us then this is an event unprecidented in history... > >This preassumes that 2.5 million queers will show up on April 25th. >There won't be anywhere near that many. Go ahead -- make my day -- >promote that number. That way, it will surely be a much greater >embarrassment and slap in the face to homosexual activists when the >crowds are much smaller. Even if its "only" one million the point still stands. Even getting 1/6th of a given population in one place would be unprecidented. If even 1 million show up in DC it will raise serious doubts about this study, or indicate a resolve unprecidented in human history. >BTW, have you noticed that even Slick Willie isn't going to be in town >that day? He isn't the target of the march, nor do presidents often speak at civil rights marchs (of course it would have been nice). However the republicans and conservative democrats would do well to take notice. >> -- >> ------ Join the Pythagorean Reform Church! . >> \ / Repent of your evil irrational numbers . . >> \ / and bean eating ways. Accept 10 into your heart! . . . > ^^^^^^^^^^^ >> \/ Call the Pythagorean Reform Church BBS at 508-793-9568 . . . . > >The above smacks of antiHispanic bigotry. This is quite amusing. Obviously you know nothing about the history of math. -- ------ Join the Pythagorean Reform Church! . \ / Repent of your evil irrational numbers . . \ / and bean eating ways. Accept 10 into your heart! . . . \/ Call the Pythagorean Reform Church BBS at 508-793-9568 . . . .
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Jason Chen writes: > Now here is a new one: vomiting. My guess is that MSG becomes the number one > suspect of any problem. In this case. it might be just food poisoning. But > if you heard things about MSG, you may think it must be it. ---------- Yeah, it might, if you only read the part you quoted. You somehow left out the part about "we all ate the same thing." Changes things a bit, eh? You complain that people blame MSG automatically, since it's an unknown and therefore must be the cause. It is equally (if not more) unreasonable to defend it, automatically assuming that it CAN'T be the culprit. Pepper makes me sneeze. If it doesn't affect you the same way, fine. Just don't tell me I'm wrong for saying so. These people aren't condemning Chinese food, Mr. Chen - just one of its (optional) ingredients. Try not to take it so personally.
13sci.med
In article <1r3jl5$igh@function.mps.ohio-state.edu> nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) writes: > Yes, I know computers and harddisk drives should be ALWAYS on. But what about > monitors? They generate a lots of heat. Should I or shouldn't I keep them on > 24 hours a day? Any advice? Thanks. Take care...Paul > > Paul Nevai nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu > Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office) > Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax) > Actually, I thought Macs were suppoused to be restarted once a day. -- Jim Smyton (smytonj@alleg.edu) ------------------------ Sometimes ya just gotta grab ** We're not hitchhiking life by the teeth and yank ** anymore, we're riding! as hard as you can. ** -Ren -Weird Al **
4comp.sys.mac.hardware
Since I've been seeing all kinds of complaints regarding Gateways lately on here, I thought I post my recent pleasant experiences. My machine (4DX2-66V) this past Friday. This was two weeks to the DAY from when I called the order in. Upon unboxing it I found everything to be in perfect order. All the peripherals I ordered were properly installed (Jumbo-250 & CD-ROM). I was very impressed with the quantity and quality of the Gateway documentation. All software came with the original disks and manuals. The Gateway manual itself is in a nice 3-ring binder. The ATI GUP came with build59 drivers. All other software I specified (Microsoft Office) was properly installed. The machine came right up out of the box and has been performing flawlessly. It's been on all weekend and it hardly even reaches room temperature. I think the big roomy tower case has a lot to do with it. It's up and running DOS 6.0 with no problems. I've also read about some people having problems with high speed serial communications. I used the DOS 6.0 InterLink program which lets me link to my old computer via a serial port at 115.2K baud. It then "maps" the other machines two hard disks as my disks F & G. You can "cd" to these drives and either run programs or copy files. It's almost like a peer-peer lan except you can also *run* programs on the other machine. It's not a two way street. The other machine is the server and this machine is the client. So thats where it seems to differ from the peer to peer stuff. For a bundled DOS utility its very impressive. My Jumbo-250 took about 11 minutes to back up 117MB of data. I also by-passed any potential Gateway monitor problems by taking the $430 credit and applying it towards a NEC 4FG. I love this monitor! So, I'm glad there is some good news Gateway stories and I'm glad it was me. (Now if it just KEEPS working). :-) John -- John Gayman, WA3WBU UUCP: uunet!wa3wbu!john Packet: WA3WBU @ WB3EAH
3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
In article <1993Apr29.010847.1@vax1.mankato.msus.edu> belgarath@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes: > Actually, my advisor, another classmate of mine, and me were talking >the other day about putting just one detector on one of the Pluto satellites. >THen we realized that the satellite alone is only carrying something like 200 >pounds of eq. Well, a BATSE detector needs lead shielding to protect it, >and 1 alone weighs about 200 pounds itself. Actually, the situation is even worse than that. The *total mass* of the Pluto Fast Flyby spacecraft is only 250ish pounds, and most of that is support equipment like power and communications. The mass available for instruments is maybe 10% of that. I don't think a BATSE will fit... Actually, would you need the shielding? My understanding is that it's mostly there to give the detectors some directionality. No point in doing that if you've only got one. I'm sure the burst detectors that have flown on other deep-space missions haven't weighed that much. (Mind you, they're probably still too heavy -- the PFF people would put more Pluto-specific instruments on first, if they had any mass to spare.) -- SVR4 resembles a high-speed collision | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology between SVR3 and SunOS. - Dick Dunn | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
14sci.space
Hi, all hardware netters, I've seen recently on some magazines advertising a ?NEW? Trident graphics card call 8900CL. The ad said it's new and *faster*. How is it compare to Tseng ET4000? BTW, which is the fastest *non-accelerated* SVGA on the market? Any info or benchmark are welcome. Thanks in advance. regards, Desmond Li LUT, UK.
3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
I have the following complete camera kits for sale: Minolta with three lenses. Ricoh with zoom lens. Nikon 35 mm autofocus. $50. Nikkor 50/1.8 MINT. $60. E-mail for more details.
6misc.forsale
Hi all, I wrote a small application which uses pixmaps copied into a window to show some drawings. This works perfectly for all kind of objects expect large fonts. What happens on the screen is that the right half of the font is not shown. The way I create these things is quite simple; some aggregated code: XFillRectangle(Disp, Pixs, AnyColor, 0, 0, Width, Height); XDraw[Line|Rect|String](...); XCopyArea(Disp, Pixs, Win, 0, 0, Width, Height, 0, 0); I am using a RS6K 340 with BOS 3.2. The question is: is this a bug in the AIX X-server (may be some PTFs), or did I do something wrong within my code?? Sorry for the cross-posting, but I really do not know what kind of error it is. Juergen Schietke Research Insitute for Discrete Mathematics University of Bonn Nassestr. 2 5300 Bonn 1 (Germany) Tel: +49 0228 738786 E-Mail: schietke@or.uni-bonn.de
5comp.windows.x
In article <1993Apr3.100039.15879@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Fred Rice) writes: |> In <1p8ivt$cfj@fido.asd.sgi.com> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes: |> |> >Should we British go around blowing up skyscrapers next? |> |> I don't know if you are doing so, but it seems you are implying |> (1) that the person accused of blowing up the WTC in NY actually did it, |> and |> (2) that Islamic teachings have something to do with blowing up the WTC. I was replying to a person who attempted to justify the fatwa against Rushdie on the grounds that his work was intentionally insulting. I think that to take a single sentence from a fairly long posting, and to say "I don't know if you are doing so, but it seems you are implying....." is at the very best quite disingenuous, and perhaps even dishonest. If anyone care to dig back and read the full posting, they will see nothing of the kind. I trust you don't deny that Islamic teaching has "something to do" with the fatwa against Rushdie? jon.
0alt.atheism
Last night I heard something about Bill Clinton's sister being involved in a marijuana bust, and the news being suppressed. I also heard something about her being an "ex-con". This source is not reliable, though. (It was a collage/booklet advertising a local band.) Can anyone on the net verify this or provide more details? I'm surprised I haven't seen anything about this in this newsgroup. Also, does anyone know what happened to the charges that Shalala was a regular pot smoker when she was in college? This ghastly accusation was reported on CNN Streamline News the day she was nominated, then I never heard anything about it again. It's almost enough to make me want to start an Act-Up type campaign to invade the privacy of closet smokers! (If only this type of publicity didn't violate people's rights. . . .) Jake. -- * What's so interdisciplinary about studying lower levels of thought process? <-- Jacob Galley * gal2@midway.uchicago.edu
18talk.politics.misc
Well I am using The Home Office. I bought it for arounde $350. It does 14.4. I don't know if it's for data or fax. But the feature I use is the Voic Mail Box, which I really have liked. --- ^~ @ * * Captain Zod... _|/_ / zod@ncube.com |-|-|/ 0 /| 0 / | \=======&==\=== \===========&===
4comp.sys.mac.hardware
In article <visser.735172473@convex.convex.com> visser@convex.com (Lance Visser) writes: > >Dave Borden (borden@head-cfa.harvard.edu) wrote: >: The Selective Service Registration should be abolished. To start with, the >: draft is immoral. Whether you agree with that or not, we don't have one now, >: and military experts agree that the quality of the armed forces is superior >: with a volunteer army than with draftees. Finally, the government has us >: on many lists in many computers (the IRS, Social Security Admistration and >: Motor Vehicle Registries to name a few) and it can find us if it needs to. >: Maintaining yet another list of people is an utter waste of money and time. >: Let's axe this whole department, and reduce the deficit a little bit. > > More "gridlock" talk from another relic of the past. The >Selective Service system creates jobs and is an investment in >the future of america......and whats wrong with that? > Do we want to 'create jobs'? or do we want jobs created that are productive in our supply/demand economy? If your answer is the former then we can just round up all jobless people and pay them to build sandcastles in the desert. If you answer the latter then I fail to see how another bureaucracy produces anything. > We need jobs because at this point in the recovery, the economy >should have generated 10 billion jobs and since it has not, the >government has to step in and help. Shutting down selective service >would cost "good jobs" and we can't do that. > > What we really need is to involve selective service in a more >closely directed manner. We need the selective service involved >in environmental protection, high-speed rail, commuter aircraft, >civil rights, national service and health care. Every dollar >we put into selective service now will get us $10 less spending >in future. > > I really believe now to think about it that selective service >is long-past due for the creation of a cabinet position. > > > Your not beyond hope, just get back on america's side and >start doing your part for change. What Bill needs from you >now is support for the economic stimulus and health care reform. >You need to devote all your energies to fighting gridlock and >supporting change. Get on the team. After all, the evil has >been banished from washington and the time for complaint >is past being neccessary. > > And remember, Bill Clinton cares. He may someday even have >a town meeting in your city. If your an appropriate sort of >person, if you phrase your questions properly and show the >proper respect and awe, you might have the chance to ask Mr, >President your question in person. > > Oh, i get it. This is sarcastic, right?
18talk.politics.misc
Inkjet and Bubblejet printers are the same tech. "Bubblejet" was trademarked by Cannon and inkjet was by HP I belive. I have seen both, and own a "bubblejet" (a Apple StyleWriter which has a cannon engine) with a 360 dpi rated output. The output is very good with quality paper, which is very importaint. Cheap paper gives bad results. I use sealed paper and the only differenc is that the ink is less dark than toner (I compaire to the Apple Personal LaserWriter NTX), but then again the difference is $300 to $1500 so.... -- /------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | David A. Smith | "I like to skate on the other side of the ice" | - dasmith@suntan.ec.usf.edu | I Didn't do it, And I don't know anything | - smithd@eggo.csee.usf.edu | either. USF better not know I'm here :)
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zyda@cs.nps.navy.mil (Michael Zyda) notes: > A word of warning for those of you registering for SIGGRAPH '93. > I just received my registration form back in the mail with the > envelope marked "Return to sender. Moved - Left No Address. > Closed PO Box". The address I used to register for SIGGRAPH '93 > is the one printed on the registration form: > > ACM SIGGRAPH '93 > PO Box 95316, > Chicago, IL 60694-5316 > > I printed the envelope in my best printing, honest but evidently > SIGGRAPH '93 has skipped town or moved? > > I ended up faxing my registration to: 312-321-6876. I hope that > number is real! > > Michael Zyda I had the same problem and called the people who handle the box; the problem happened some time ago and was caught almost instantly. All registrations going to that address are now fixed. See what trouble you get into when you don't procrastinate, Mike? And no, SIGGRAPH 93 has not skipped town -- we're preparing the best SIGGRAPH conference yet! -- Steve Cunningham
1comp.graphics
In article <franjion.735413613@spot.Colorado.EDU> franjion@spot.Colorado.EDU (John Franjione) writes: >I don't understand this at all. Matt Williams has demonstrated >throughout his career that he will NOT wait for good pitches to hit. >He won't take walks. He'd rather swing. If I'm the opposing pitcher, >why would I groove a fastball to Williams and have him hit it well, >when I know that Williams will swing (and miss, or at least not hit >very well) at a low and away curve? Matt's problem is really more ability than attitude. It isn't that he's got it in his mind that he wants to swing away, but rather that he's (still) a total sucker for the curve ball. It looked for a while in 1990 that he was getting better but it's still his weak point. As to whether it does him any good to have Bonds behind him, the net.stat.mavens will probably tell you there's no reason that it should, but if he thinks it will, it might be a self-fulfilling prophecy. As to whether the Giants' lineup is optimal: who knows? Batting Bonds, the team's best hitter, fifth does seem to be odd, but the #1 and #2 hitters aren't exactly Messrs. OBA, so they aren't giving much up there. And although Clark isn't the overall offensive force that Bonds is, he seems better suited to the #3 spot. Assuming, of course, that he starts hitting one of these days... -- |----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Michael Zimmers | Voice: 408 996 1965 | | SoftHelp -- Suppliers to Software Developers | Data: 408 996 1974 | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
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HELLO, New to this area so.... I have read about some upgrades for the LC II, Doing some modification to make the thing run faster! Is the Performa 400 about the same as an lc and if so would the homemade speed upgrade work?? Thanks Brad
4comp.sys.mac.hardware
Just curious why floptical drives never seemed to catch on. Remember those 21 Mb disks that look and feel like 3.5" floppies? These drives are SCSI devices and can read and write both 720 Kb and 1.44/21 Mb disks. Sounds to me to be one great product for the PC market. Are the prices really that unaffordable compared to CD-ROMs which are currently not rewritable? I know about the new rewritable CDs and expect SONY to develop the first MDs for the computer. My question is: why isn't there any substantial interest in developing the flopticals? Just a thought. Kin Chan sparrow+@cmu.edu
3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
But after you have taken antihistamines for a few nights, doesn't it start to have a paradoxical effect? I used to take one every night for allergies and couldn't figure out why I developed bad insomnia. Finally figured out it was the antihistamines. I would fall asleep for a few minutes but would awaken at the drop of a pin a little later and could not get back to sleep. I don't have that problem since I stopped the antihistamines at bedtime. ? Alice
13sci.med
Deleted: vast quantities of carefully-annoted spew from "David Koresh" I don't know about the rest of you, but I think Mr. Tice needs a hobby. ************************************************************ * The_Doge of South St. Louis * * Dobbs-Approved Media Conspirator(tm) * * "One Step Beyond" -- Sundays, 3 to 5 pm * * 88.1 FM St. Louis Community Radio * * "You'll pay to know what you *really* think!" * * -- J.R. "Bob" Dobbs" * ************************************************************
18talk.politics.misc
G'day All, I was looking to build a Parallel Port Digital to Analogue Converter the other day and came across this schematic which I promptly threw together on a piece of VeroBoard: P2----22k----+ P3----48k----| P4----100k---| P5----200k---| P6----400k---| P7----800k---| 10uf electrolytic P8----1M6----| + P9----3M2----+---||--+---------- | + 47nF ceramic - - | - P25------------------+---------- (Please excuse the obvious limits of the Lower ASCII char set :=) I have it all constructed here and sitting inside a nice little grey ABS box. Unfortunately I can't get it to work... I have a little demo here by the name of Cronologia (Which the schematic came from) and all I can get it to pump out of the box is data type hash/static with a small amount of music signal behind it - it's even worse than the speaker inside the machine. Does anybody out in net.colourful.computer.world have any ideas/suggestions/ better designs/improvements/wastepaper bin... etc? Many thanks for a reply via this conference or email. // \X/ Regards, Jason. --- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jason Bordujenko Computer Department | | InterNet/UseNet: d12751@tanus.oz.au Townsville Grammar School | | FidoNet Node : 3:640/702 (Grammar BBS) 45 Paxton Street | | Data Phone No. : +61 77 72 6052 (Int.) Townsville Queensland 4810 | | : (077) 72 6052 (Aust.) Australia | | Facsimilie : +61 77 72 2340 (Int.) | | : (077) 72 2340 (Aust.) | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | God made him simple, | | science made him god | | | | -Stephen King's `The LawnMower Man' | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
See, I told you there was an atheist mythology, thanks for proving my point. Bill
0alt.atheism
On my 486DX33 with the Stealth 24 VLB I get 11.4 WinMarks with ver. 3.11
3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Mamatha Devineni Ratnam <mr47+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: > >I can't understand how someone in the sports dept. can't even recognise >the name of playoffs shown on the very same station he works for. You think that's bad ... one year, we had all three New York teams in the playoffs and the cableco operator (SCNY once shared a channel with BET but someone forgot to throw the switch at 6PM) didn't know what I was talking about ... While it's nice that the NHL is back on American network TV, it faces the same problems as it did with the All Star game. Local preemptions and zero promotion (okay, I don't watch that much TV so I'm just foaming all right?). The league should have made sure that it was solid on cable before going to the networks. In year one of the new ESPN contract, the saturation coverage of SCA (all other games shown to completion, like the Quebec-Montreal and Sabres-Bruins overtimes) is missed around here. gld -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Je me souviens ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gary L. Dare > gld@columbia.EDU GO Winnipeg Jets GO!!! > gld@cunixc.BITNET Selanne + Domi ==> Stanley
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6misc.forsale
I have a 486DX-33 computer with a SoundBlaster 1.0 card. I'm running Microsoft Windows v3.1. I have the SB driver set up properly to play normal sounds (.WAV files, etc.). I want to play midi files through the Media Player that is included with windows. I know I have to set up the patch maps or something in the MIDI-Mapper in the Control Panel. I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MIDI. (This is to be the way I'll get my feet wet.) How do I set up Windows so that I can play MIDI files? -- David Thomas Dudek / v098pwxs@ubvms.bitnet \ __ _ The Cybard State University / dudek@sun.acsu.buffalo.edu \ / `-' ) ,,, of New York / "If music be the food of love, \ | | ()|||||||[:::} @ Buffalo / play on!" - Wm. Shakespeare \ `__.-._) '''
2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
You unfortunately failed to mention if the error occurs with the Parity Error Checking enabled or disabled. I assume you mean it gives you a parity error when it's enabled, and not when it's disabled. How high will the count go on the memory check at boot-up before this error occurs? Does the system beep at all; if so what's the pattern of beeps? The error could be occuring in Cache memory (not so likely) or video memory, as well as the simms. The fact that you have AMI bios is not conclusive in determining the board manufacturer either. Boards are made by thousands of small Taiwanese companies (among others) that buy the name brand chips and put them together with some simm sockets to make your board. I tend to doubt your problem is with your IDE controller, also. Anyway, perhaps if you answer those questions someone can help you out better. mrb boltz@vivaldi.psu.edu mrb118@psuvm.psu.edu
3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
The XView version 3 source distribution included in the contrib section of X11R5 included the source to the textedit program. I'd like to take the sources and modify them to add support for a ToolTalk-like message server, and maybe for ToolTalk while I'm at it, since the Sun-supplied textedit binary doesn't seem to speak tooltalk. However, the sources in the R5 contrib area seem to be for an older version of textedit than the version shipped with OpenWindows 3. For example, the OWN 3.0 textedit includes drag and drop support and a dropsite in the main control area, while the source in contrib/xview knows nothing about drag and drop. The textedit.c included in the xview sources says it's version 15.50, dated 5/22/90, while doing a 'what textedit' on the OWN 3.0 binary says: textedit.c 2.62 91/09/14 Copyr 1990 Sun Micro dragdrop.c 1.26 91/09/14 Copyr 1990 Sun Micro tooltalk.c 2.16 91/09/14 Copyr 1990 Sun Micro ds_relname.c 1.7 91/09/14 Copyr 1990 Sun Micro So, does anyone know if the 9/14/91 sources to textedit are available? I'd really like to work from the latest source if possible. Please reply by email, and I'll post a summary if there's enough interest. -- Matt Landau Waiting for a flash of enlightenment matt@centerline.com in all this blood and thunder
5comp.windows.x
My comments about the Feingold Diet have no relevance to your daughter's purported FrostedFlakes-related seizures. I can't imagine why you included it. -- Steve Dyer dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
13sci.med
In article <1993Apr23.141137.6161@e2big.mko.dec.com> francus@e2big.mko.dec.com (Yoseff Francus) writes: >In article <13761@news.duke.edu> simon@hercules.acpub.duke.edu writes: >>Name three ex-Met pitchers that have lost to every team in the majors >>(except Colorado and Florida). Which two also defeated every team in the >>majors? >> >>Dan > >Nolan Ryan qualifies on both counts. I would guess that Viola is the >other one who has beaten and also lost to every team in the majors. Viola has only played in the NL with the Mets -- not possible for him to have defeated or lost to every team. Ditto for Tanana who was mentioned in a previous post. >The 3rd pitcher to lose to every team is probably Tom Seaver, but >it could be Koosman. I don't remember if Seaver managed to get a win against the White Sox in his brief sojourn with Boston so I'd say the other pitcher to defeat every team is either Mike Torrez (he bounced around enough for a long enough period of time) or Koosman as mentioned. I would also guess that if one of these two did not manage to beat every team he did manage to lose to every team. Tom -- ============================================================================ Thomas Talavage : Purdue University, Electrical Engineering Grad Student Grad School -- the greatest time of one's life -- where they pay you to do what you have spent the last 16 years becoming good at!
9rec.sport.baseball
Ed Campion Headquarters, Washington, D.C. April 23, 1993 (Phone: 202/358-1780) Kyle Herring Johnson Space Center, Houston (Phone: 713/483-5111) RELEASE: 93-76 HUBBLE TELESCOPE SERVICING MISSION SCHEDULED FOR ELEVEN DAYS The December flight of Endeavour on Space Shuttle mission STS-61 to service the Hubble Space Telescope (HST) has been scheduled as an 11 day mission designed to accommodate a record five spacewalks with the capability for an additional two, if needed. The decision to schedule five extravehicular activities, or EVAs, was reached following extensive evaluations of underwater training, maneuver times required using the Shuttle's robot arm based on software simulations and actual EVA tasks on previous missions. "Basically what we've done by going to five EVAs rather than three is to repackage our margin so that we have the capability to respond to the dynamics, or unknowns, of spacewalks," Mission Director Randy Brinkley said. "It improves the probabilities for mission success while providing added flexibility and adaptability for reacting to real-time situations." In laying out the specific tasks to be completed on each of the spacewalks, officials have determined that changing out the gyros, solar arrays and the Wide Field/Planetary Camera (WF/PC) and installing the Corrective Optics Space Telescope Axial Replacement (COSTAR) are priority objectives during the mission. "When we looked at accomplishing all of the tasks, highest through lowest priority, and recognizing that the major tasks -- gyros, solar arrays, WF/PC and COSTAR -- would consume most of the time set aside for each spacewalk, five EVAs were deemed appropriate," said Milt Heflin, Lead Flight Director for the mission. While the five spacewalks will be unprecedented, the use of two alternating spacewalk teams will alleviate placing more stress on the crew than previous missions requiring two, three or four EVAs. "We have paid close attention to lessons learned during previous spacewalks and factored these into our timeline estimates for five EVAs," Heflin said. "In planning for all Space Shuttle missions, it is necessary to formulate a work schedule that represents as realistic a timeline as possible to accomplish the mission objectives." Planning currently calls for at least five water tank training sessions that include support from the Mission Control Center, called joint integrated simulations, lasting between 10 and 36 hours. In addition, many stand alone underwater training "runs" will practice individual tasks in each spacewalk. Various refinements to the specific tasks on each spacewalk will be made based on actual training experience during the months prior to the mission. Also, lessons learned from other spacewalks leading up to the flight will be valuable in assisting the STS-61 crew in its training techniques. Endeavour's June flight and Discovery's July mission both will include spacewalks to evaluate some of the unique tools to be used on the HST mission. The evaluations will help in better understanding the differences between the actual weightlessness of space and the ground training in the water tanks at the Johnson Space Center, Houston, and the Marshall Space Flight Center, Huntsville, Ala. Also, the inflight spacewalking experiences will assist in gaining further insight into the time required for the various tasks and expand the experience levels among the astronaut corps, the flight controllers and trainers. Designed to be serviced by a Space Shuttle crew, Hubble was built with grapple fixtures and handholds to assist in the capture and repair procedures. The telescope was launched aboard Discovery in April 1990. At that time the NASA mixed fleet manifest showed the first revisit mission to HST in 1993 to change out science instruments and make any repairs that may have become necessary. - end - ___ _____ ___ /_ /| /____/ \ /_ /| Ron Baalke | baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov | | | | __ \ /| | | | Jet Propulsion Lab | ___| | | | |__) |/ | | |__ M/S 525-3684 Telos | The aweto from New Zealand /___| | | | ___/ | |/__ /| Pasadena, CA 91109 | is part caterpillar and |_____|/ |_|/ |_____|/ | part vegetable.
14sci.space
I recently aquired a Quantum Q250 harddisk. It is a 50 meg 5.25" mechanism. It is SCSI. I have a few questions and a few problems. First there seems to be an extra connector socket on the back that I can't figure out what it is for. The address is set by some jumpers on the bottom so I don't think it is for that. Any ideas? Second, it would be nice to get a hardware manual for the drive. There are a lot of jumpers on it that we don't know what they are for. Third, I have got the drive to format. It took a while to get things to work and most of it is fine for now. The formating initialy was troublesome but seems to be ok. The main problem is if you do a reset on the MacPlus the drive disappears. If I shut the mac off and then back on agian then the drive comes up fine. Any ideas. Please reply to one of the email addresses below. Thanks Richard Crispin Department of Psychology email:rcrispin@watarts.uwaterloo.ca University of Waterloo psych@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca Waterloo, Ontario phone:(519)888-4781 or 885-1211 ext. 4781 Canada N2L 3G1 fax:(519)746-8631
4comp.sys.mac.hardware
In article <C5HqJ0.57@unix.amherst.edu>, bhtulin@unix.amherst.edu (Barak H. Tulin) gives forth: >I just started reading this thread today, so forgive me if it has already been >mentioned. But...what was the deal with Renault's putting the horn on the >left-hand turn-signal stalk? It was a button on the end, where the washer >button would be on the wiper/washer stalk. Could the Frenchies not figure >out the wiring through the steering wheel, or what? Had an '83 Alliance for a long time. It was a comfortable but sluggish car. I got very used to the horn on the stalk, after a couple months worth of getting used to it. After I bought my next car, a Chevy, it took me for-EVER to get used to the horn on the steering wheel again! jim grey jwg@acd4.acd.com Up the Irons!
7rec.autos
> [Again, in the normal Protestant interpretation, Sunday is not a law, > and worshipping on another day is not a sin. Churches are free to > decide on the day they will meet, just as they are free to decide on > the hour. It would not be a sin to worship on some other day, but if > you belong to a church that worships on Sunday and you show up on > Monday, you will probably worship alone... --clh] I totally agree with that sentiment. But why do you have to go further and advocate violating what God has set up? That is the question which you have not answered from Scripture. You can worship on every day, as long as you work. But God says the Sabbath is all mine. Darius
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In article <1ql7tuINN8j8@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU> chaudhary-amar@yale.edu (Amar Chaudhary) writes: > >6. Hey, I think the beaded curtains add a lovely 60's-esque touch! AAAAAAAAAAAA! RUN! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! >5. Look, Canada, Europe, and Japan manage to provide health care for their > citizens (and, yes, basic health IS a human right which people are > entitled to). If these nations aren't capitalist enough for you, then > I guess we've found something better than capitalism! There is nothing > sacred about the capitalist system, and if something, be it socialism > or anything else, works better, then I say let capitalism die. Then why are they in the process of systematically dismantling some of their socialistic health care systems through privitization of key components? >4. Make love, not War! If I hold a gun to your wife, would you respond the same way? I don't think so. While the age of aquarius may have hit the White House, the age of peace love and harmony hasn't hit in South Central LA nor has it hit in former Yugoslavia. And as long as there are people in the world who would rather see me dead than thrive, I want the protection of a police force who will keep the peace so I *can* make love without being shot. >3. Contrary to popular belief, it is possible to be a male and a feminist > at the same time. To discriminate against or to deny equal opportunity > to a MAJORITY of the population is just plain wrong, and trying to force > them into some sort of tradition role is even worse. Women certainly > have as much to offer this world as men, and the day that gender > discrimination is finally broken it going to make all the revolutions of > the past few centuries seem like reform bills. I look forward to it. The ultimate statement for equal rights (something many of the feminazis have forgotten) is "I do not care if you are either a man or a woman, I do not care if you are black or white, I do not care if you are gay or straight." Once you can honistly say "I do not care about color, race, or gender or sexual preference", then we will truly be on the right track. Keep shoving differences in my face and then expect us all to get along? Get real! So long as you try to make me care if you are black, female, or whatever, I am going to continue to balk. It's natural human behaviour. But the moment employers searching for employees, banks looking to lend money, and theClinton administration looking for appointees can honistly say "I do not care about your color, race, gender, or sexual preferences; I instend instead to treat you as a human being," crap like last year's riots will continue to happen. >1. HEY MAN, ACADAMIA RULES!! Barf. You mean the same economic theorists who say things like "for the sake of convenience in mathematical modeling we will first assume there is no wealth creation" now get a crack at implementing their PhD thesis in real life? Go back to your textbooks on macroeconomic theory. Look in the first chapter of that book, introducing the field of macroeconomic theory. Right there in chapter 1, section 1, is a statement like the following: "As it is difficult to predict and model wealth creation, especially in an economy where wealth creation is inherently the province of individuals who create new inventions and discover new ideas, we will assume for the rest of this book that there is no wealth creation. "We do not assume the lack of weath creation in the real world, however the mathematical modeling of such an inherently unpredictable subject is impossible. Even though we assume no wealth creation, we do believe that for most mathematical economic modeling such an assumption is reasonably valid as it allows us to make predictions which then can be tested." So the guys who are running the store for Clinton and company are now assuming that wealth creation does not exists. They are (borrowing an idea from the Hitchhiker's Guide) too advanced to think of these simple things. To be honist, I would rather have an engineer with years of experience building bridges design the next bridge, rather than a theoretical physicists with a freshly minted PhD and no experience do the same job. - Bill Woody Normally I don't post (or even read most of the postings) in this newsgroup. If you would like to reply to this message and want me to see the reply, then I guess you will just have to reply directly to me.
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brian@lpl.arizona.edu (Brian Ceccarelli 602/621-9615) writes: > >So what is your beef against Jesus? First and foremost, I honestly do not believe that Jesus was anything more than a man who lived and died two thousand years ago. I know your Bible provides wonderful stories of the things he said and did, but I simply do not believe that he still exists as an entity that has any bearing on this universe or the lives in it, and I similarly do not believe that the god that you worship exists or has ever existed. Period. I view religion in general and Christianity in specific as a 'cultural virus' that has been passed down from generation to generation because people are often too afraid to think for themselves and claim responsibility for their own fate, so they brainwash themselves and their children into believing the popular myths, and it goes on from there. And eventually Christianity becomes a given -- if so many other people believe in it, it must be right, no? I don't believe in any "life after death". I believe that when I die, I die, so therefore it's up to me to try to bring meaning and purpose to my life in the meantime. I don't believe that it's a good thing to humble myself and view pride as a sin -- pride, in moderation, is a constructive thing. I see nothing at all wrong with homosexuality and nothing inferior about women, and my priests lost a lot of my trust when they patronizingly tried to explain the 'faults' of these opinions to me. I don't believe in 'loving everyone', especially people I've never met; while I try to show respect to everyone, my love and admiration is something not easily earned, and I do not feel guilty about denying my respect and consideration to someone who has abused it. If you want me to take your religion the least bit seriously, stop trying to show me how the Bible "makes sense". Start trying to show me that this Jesus person is somehow still influencing anyone's life here on Earth. -- _/_/_/ Brian Kendig Je ne suis fait comme aucun /_/_/ bskendig@netcom.com de ceux que j'ai vus; j'ose croire _/_/ n'etre fait comme aucun de ceux qui existent. / The meaning of life Si je ne vaux pas mieux, au moins je suis autre. / is that it ends. -- Rousseau
19talk.religion.misc
In article <sandvik-170493104859@sandvik-kent.apple.com> sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes: >Ignorance is not bliss! Ignorance is STRENGTH! Help spread the TRUTH of IGNORANCE!
19talk.religion.misc
In <30185@ursa.bear.com> halat@pooh.bears (Jim Halat) writes: >In article <markp.735230393@elvis.wri.com>, markp@elvis.wri.com (Mark Pundurs) writes: >>Omigod, it's an operationalist! Sorry, Jim, but the idea that a theory >>explaining a myriad of distinctly different observations is merely a >>"model" is more than sensible people can accept -- your phobia about >>objective reality notwithstanding. >First of all, I have no phobia of objective reality. I'm simply >saying that the scientific model of the atom is probably not >what is really out there. I'm not saying that there's no object >that sources these properties we measure from atomic theory. You hadn't made that clear; I'm glad to have it clarified! So you're a (physical) objectivist, after all, right? >Take light as another example. There are two theories: particle and >wave. Each one fails to predict the behavior of light as some point. >So which is it: particle or wave? You tell me. You're the sensible >one. Wavicle! Next question? ;-) -- Mark Pundurs any resemblance between my opinions and those of Wolfram Research, Inc. is purely coincidental
19talk.religion.misc
>>>>> On Tue, 6 Apr 1993 03:28:57 GMT, dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) said: | In article <ofk=lve00WB2AvUktO@andrew.cmu.edu> Lawrence Curcio <lc2b+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: |>I sometimes see OTC preparations for muscle aches/back aches that |>combine aspirin with a diuretic. | You certainly do not see OTC preparations advertised as such. | The only such ridiculous concoctions are nostrums for premenstrual | syndrome, ostensibly to treat headache and "bloating" simultaneously. | They're worthless. |>The idea seems to be to reduce |>inflammation by getting rid of fluid. Does this actually work? | That's not the idea, and no, they don't work. I *believe* there is a known synergism between certain analgesics and caffiene. For treating pain, not inflammation. Now that I am an ibuprofen convert I haven't taken it for some time, but excedrin really works! (grin) Nathan | -- | Steve Dyer | dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer -- ......:bb|`:||, nathan@chemres.tn.cornell.edu ... .||: `||bbbbb .. ,:` .``"P$$$ .||. , . ` .`P$
13sci.med
peter@gort.trl.OZ.AU (Peter K. Campbell) writes: : ridout@bink.plk.af.mil (Brian S. Ridout) writes: : : >In article <1993Apr15.134802.21995@mfltd.co.uk>, sts@mfltd.co.uk (Steve Sherwood (x5543)) writes: : >|> Has anyone got multiverse to work ? : >|> Extn 5543, sts@mfltd.co.uk, !uunet!mfocus!sts : : I've tried compiling it on several SPARCstations with gcc 2.22. After : fixing up a few bugs (3 missing constant definitions plus a couple of : other things) I got it to compile & link, but after starting client : & server I just get a black window; sometimes the client core dumps, : sometimes the server, sometimes I get a broken pipe, sometimes it : just sits there doing nothing although I occassionally get the : cursor to become a cross-hair in dog-fight, but that's it. I've : sent word to the author plus what I did to fix it last week, but : no reply as yet. : : Peter K. Campbell : p.campbell@trl.oz.au I've discovered a bug in the libraries/parser/parser.c loadcolour function where it was generating a segmentation fault. It appears the colourList[] is geting corrupted somehow. I had it return random colours instead and everything worked great (except for a few colour problems) so I know its the only thing wrong. The colour table somehow gets a couple of nulls placed in it so when the "name" of the colours are compared it crashes. I haven't found the problem yet maybe someone else can. -- Adrian Turner University College of Northern Victoria turner@ironbark.ucnv.edu.au
1comp.graphics
Yes, I could look it up but I prefer to post this question to the net... I read somewhere in a long forgotten article that the handsignals used by major league umps were originally used to help a deaf ball player by the name of "Dummy". Urban myth? True? I gots ta know. Mark B. mbrownel@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca
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n9045178@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Sean Dean) writes... [other 2 posts deleted] |I've heard he doesn't read alt.fan.rush..... |But I have no idea of a Compuserve e-mail address... Does anyone have Rush Limbaugh's e-mail address? Is there anyone out there on Compuserve who might be able to look it up or otherwise find it? Maybe it would be impossible, but I thought I should at least ask... Mr. Weather / r1b6116@zeus.tamu.edu / Ken Blair
11sci.crypt
I have two questions (well probably more...) about how Expose & Configure events are handled. I have an appl. which uses 1 window to draw in. Since I give the user the capability of scaling and zooming as well as allowing the window to be resized, I made a translation table for the Expose & Configure events. The Expose event calls my redraw method while the Configure event calls my rescale method. The rescale method invokes a "fake" Expose event (actually just calls the redraw w/ an appropriate Expose struct) to draw the data. Quest 1. When the appl. is compiled/linked w/ R4 (running in either R4 or R5 env.) I get multiple (>4) redraws when the window gets uncovered or the size is changed. I assume I'm getting cascading events. Is that right? Any suggestions as to how to handle/trap events in a better way? Quest 2. When the appl. is compiled/linked w/ R5 I get no Expose events whatsoever. Do events and/or translation tables act differently in R5? Thanks in advance Steve -- ========================================================================================== Steve Kelley UMCP CS/UMIACS Captain, I protest! Internet: skelley@umiacs.umd.edu I am *NOT* a merry man! - Worf
5comp.windows.x
Does anyone here know anything about chelation therapy using EDTA? My uncle has emphesema, and a doctor wants to try it on him. We are wondering if: 1. Is there any evidence EDTA chelation therapy is beneficial for his condition, or any condition? 2. What possible side effects are there. How can they be mimimized? Please respond via e-mail to rme1@cornell.edu Thanks, Renee
13sci.med
I was on vacation all last week and didn't see any news at all. Could somebody fill me in on how St. Louis ended up with Mark Whiten in a trade? Who did we give up Arocha, Allen Watson, Dmitri Young, or did Dal make a decent deal? : Russ Smith ******************************************************************************* "I don't know anything about X's, but I know about some O." George Gervin on being an assistant coach ********************************************************************************
9rec.sport.baseball
In article <May.14.02.10.02.1993.25119@athos.rutgers.edu> alisonjw@spider.co.uk (Alison J Wyld) writes: >From: alisonjw@spider.co.uk (Alison J Wyld) >PS. Just to make it clear, I don't do ( and have never tried ) OOBEs. > I tend to think they are off limits for Christians. WHY?
15soc.religion.christian
Davidian-babble: >The Turkish government feels it can funnel a heightened state of ultra- >nationalism existing in Turkey today onto UseNet and convince people via its >revisionist, myopic, and incidental view of themselves and their place in the >world. Turkish government on usenet? How long are you going to keep repeating this utterly idiotic [and increasingly saddening] drivel? oz --- life of a people is a sea, and those that look at it from the shore cannot know its depths. -Armenian proverb
17talk.politics.mideast
Posting for a friend: please call Steve, 415 252-1618, if interested. SEGA Genesis games for sale. In original boxes with original manuals. Approximately 1 month old. -- John Madden Football '93, Electronic Arts, $40.00 obo -- Ecco The Dolphin, SEGA,, $40.00 obo Again, I'm posting for a friend. If interested, call: Steve 415 252-1618
6misc.forsale
>On a side note, has anyone ever had a Mac Plus "smoke out" on them? We >have had four machines that all of a sudden start emitting a thick grayish >white smoke. In each case it was a capacitor that had gone bad. Has >anyone else encountered this? >Keith Cooley >EE Macintosh Lab Administrator >Louisiana Tech University >tkc@engr.LaTech.EDU We've had it happen a time or two. Beginning students think it is pretty entertaining when it happens during a lab lecture or demonstration.
4comp.sys.mac.hardware
In article <115868@bu.edu> icop@csa.bu.edu (Antonio Pera) writes: > >In article <saross01.734885336@starbase.spd.louisville.edu>, saross01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Stacey A. Ross) writes: >|> In <C5I2s2.3Bt@odin.corp.sgi.com> rickc@wrigley.corp.sgi.com (Richard Casares) writes: >|> >You'll have a hard time selling any sport to a community that >|> >can't play it on account of availability or financial reasons. >|> >Hockey is pretty much a sport for the white and well off. > >What is this crap? I'm only interested in intelligent discussion. If you >can't answer my question, just say so. Can anyone else answer the ques.? > It's not really crap you know... only half crap ;-) From what i understand it's very expensive to play hockey south of the border... (actually it's not that cheap up hear either... though once you have all the equipement it's not more than $300 a year... actually i haven' played in about 8 years so i could be off a bit... ) In the states, where ice time is considerably more expensive it can cost over a thousand a year... compare this to baseball and you'll see that hockey is a sport for the well-to-do... And this brings up the fact that the well-to-do in the US are majority white... BTW: what was the original question... i think it has to do with the Hispanic communtiy and playing hockey.... Cheers! i. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | ingo@sunee.uwaterloo.ca | The more violent the body | | iwweigel@descartes.uwaterloo.ca | contact of the sports you | | ingo@electrical.watstar.uwaterloo.ca | watch, the lower your class. | | iwweigele@electrical.watstar.uwaterloo.ca | -- Paul Fussell | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ If the University of Waterloo had on opinion, this probably wouldn't be it...
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|In article <Apr.14.03.07.21.1993.5402@athos.rutgers.edu> >randerso@acad1.sahs.uth.tmc.edu (Robert Anderson) writes: |>I would like to get your opinions on this: when exactly does an engaged |>couple become "married" in God's eyes? |Not if they are unwilling to go through a public marriage ceremony, |nor if they say they are willing but have not actually done so. How do you know this?
15soc.religion.christian
pyeatt@Texaco.com (Larry D. Pyeatt) writes: : In article <9304191540.AA09727@sparc1.jade.com>, graham@sparc1.ottawa.jade.COM (Jay Graham) writes: : |> : |> XmDrawingArea for drawing with Xlib. But I would like to take advantage of : |> the Graphics Library (GL) available on our IBM RS/6000 (SGI's GL i believe). : |> Is it possible to mix X and GL in one application program? : |> Can I use GL subroutines in an XmDrawingArea or in an X window opened by me : |> with XOpenWindow? You can't make GL calls in an XmDrawingArea widget for sure. : : There is a widget already defined for GL. It is the GlxMDraw (motif) or : GlxDraw (athena) widget. It is similar to a XmDrawingArea, except that it : allows you to use GL calls to render into the window. Look at glxlink, : glxunlink, glxgetconfig, and glxwinset in the man pages. : : : The GlxMDraw widget works pretty well. OpenGL will be an improvement. I can vouch for that. The GL Widget works pretty well. I have been using it for sometime now. I'm not sure though whether you can use Xlib calls to draw into the GL widget. I haven't tried it yet nor have I read the accompanying documentation completely. Try posting to comp.sys.sgi for more information. Better still,you will find most of the answers in the SGI manuals .. there is a little transition guide which explains the "mixed-model programming" paradigm(Mixing X and GL). : |> Does PEX (graPHIGS?) have the same functionality of GL? : : I think GL is a little easier to use and a little more powerful, but : that's just an opinion. Mileage may vary. Well, PEX is designed as an extension to X and will be more seamless but then, it is buggy to start with .. opinions again. __ (_ / / o_ o o |_ __)/(_( __) (_(_ /_)| )_ *************************************************************************** * Suresh Thennarangam * EMail: suresh@iss.nus.sg(Internet) * * Research Scholar * ISSST@NUSVM.BITNET * * Institute Of Systems Science * Tel: (065) 772 2588. * * National University Of Singapore * Facs.: (065) 778 2571 * * Heng Mui Keng Terrace * Telex: ISSNUS RS 39988 * * Singapore 0511. * * ***************************************************************************
5comp.windows.x
The story I related is one of the seven apparitions approved by our Church as worthy of belief. It happened in La Salle, France. The moral lesson of the story is: The Lamb of God has been sacrificed and His blood has been used to cleanse us of our sins every moment as God perceives worthy of being done in Heaven. Mary weeps for The Lamb and for the rest of her offsprings. This will continue while we disobey God or sin against Him. Mary, as a messenger, has been given the task to make us be 'aware' of the evil serpent (communism, wars, famine, unfaithful, disobedience to God, etc.) running after the rest of her offsprings. The children who went astray by disobedience led by the dragon is brought back by her peace and loving messages, reparations for sins, to obey God's commandments and be more worthy to be in the presence of The Lamb. As she was conceived without sin to be worthy of bearing the Son of God in her womb, Mary has been preparing us, the Church, the Body of Christ, for His second coming (making sure we are protected from the dragon). Also, she has been preparing the new Eden, by reversing the deed of the ancient Eve. The new Eden will be the sanctuary of the righteous as judged by Christ in His next coming. I relate the story again: I believe this and Mary, in one of her apparitions in 19th or 20th century, she appeared to these two children who tends goats and cows (I forgot the exact place). She was weeping and telling the children that she is afraid she's "going to lose her Son's arm". She is mourning too for these townfolks because it was their fault that there would be drought in their harvest; not much good food again this year as it was last year. Mary tells the children: * Most of the townfolks in this place worked whole * * week even on Sundays when they should be in church * * honoring God. These townfolks swears and * * uses her Son's name in bad words. That is * why her Son's arm is so heavy in pain. Then she asked them if they pray. The children said "hardly". She asked them to pray every morning and night. When the children went back from work they had to tell somebody about this. When the news was spred and after thorough * investigation of the incident, the townfolks * * were converted and faith and obedience to God * * were restored in their community. * Once again, the Lamb succeeds. -Marida "...spreading God's words through actions..." -Mother Teresa
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>Newsgroups: sci.astro,sci.space >Subject: Re: Vandalizing the sky. > (excerpts from posting on this topic) >In article <C5t05K.DB6@research.canon.oz.au> enzo@research.canon.oz.au >(Enzo Liguori) writes: > >>Now, Space Marketing >>is working with University of Colorado and Livermore engineers on >>a plan to place a mile-long inflatable billboard in low-earth >>orbit. >... >>... the real purpose of the project is to help the environment! >>The platform will carry ozone monitors > >... >I can't believe that a mile-long billboard would have any significant >effect on the overall sky brightness. Venus is visible during the day, >but nobody complains about that. Besides, it's in LEO, so it would only >be visible during twilight when the sky is already bright, and even if >it would have some miniscule impact, it would be only for a short time >as it goes zipping across the sky. > (I've seen satellites at midnight - they're not only in twilight.) :o) >... > >From the book "Prodigal Genius: The Life of Nikola Tesla" by John J. O'Neill: > >"This remarkable conductivity of gases, including the air, at low >pressures, led Tesla to suggest, in a published statement in 1914, a >system of lighting on a terrestrial scale in which he proposed to treat >the whole Earth, with its surrounding atmosphere, as if it were a >single lamp.... >The whole Earth would be transformed into a giant lamp, with the night >sky completely illuminated. ... making the night as bright as day." > Now my comments: I'd like to add that some of the "protests" do not come from a strictly practical consideration of what pollution levels are acceptable for research activities by professional astronomers. Some of what I would complain about is rooted in aesthetics. Many readers may never have known a time where the heavens were pristine - sacred - unsullied by the actions of humans. The space between the stars as profoundly black as an abyss can be. With full horizons and a pure sky one could look out upon half of all creation at a time - none of which had any connection with the petty matters of man. Any lights were supplied solely by nature; uncorruptable by men. Whole religions were based on mortal man somehow getting up there and becoming immortal as the stars, whether by apotheosis or a belief in an afterlife. The Space Age changed all that. The effect of the first Sputniks and Echo, etc. on this view could only happen once. To see a light crossing the night sky and know it was put there by us puny people is still impressive and the sense of size one gets by assimilating the scales involved is also awesome - even if the few hundreds or thousands of miles involved is still dwarfed by the rest of the universe. But there is still a hunger for the pure beauty of a virgin sky. Yes, I know aircraft are almost always in sight. I have to live in a very populated area (6 miles from an international airport currently) where light pollution on the ground is ghastly. The impact of humans is so extreme here - virtually no place exists that has not been shaped, sculpted, modified, trashed or whipped into shape by the hands of man. In some places the only life forms larger than bacteria are humans, cockroaches, and squirrels (or rats). I visited some friends up in the Appalacian mountains one weekend, "getting away from it all" (paved roads, indoor plumbing, malls, ...) and it felt good for a while - then I quickly noticed the hollow was directly under the main flight path into Dulles - 60-80 miles to the east. (Their 'security light' didn't help matters much either.) But I've heard the artic wilderness gets lots of high air traffic. So I know the skies are rarely perfect. But there is still this desire to see a place that man hasn't fouled in some way. (I mean they've been TRYING this forever - like, concerning Tesla's idea to banish night, - wow!) I don't watch commercial television, but I can imagine just how disgusting beer, truck, or hemmorrhoid ointment advertisements would be if seen up so high. If ya' gotta make a buck on it (displaying products in heaven), at least consider the reactions from those for whom the sky is a last beautiful refuge from the baseness of modern life. To be open about this though, I have here my listing of the passage of HST in the evening sky for this weekend - tonight Friday at 8:25 p.m. EDT it will reach an altitude of 20.1 degrees on the local meridian from Baltimore vicinity. I'll be trying to see it if I can - it _is_ my mealticket after all. So I suppose I could be called an elitist for supporting this intrusion on the night sky while complaining about billboards proposed by others. Be that as it may, I think my point about a desire for beauty is valid, even if it can't ever be perfectly achieved. Regards, Wm. Hathaway Baltimore MD
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In article 1r3n32INNk9p@ctron-news.ctron.com, smith@ctron.com (Lawrence C Smith) writes: >In article <1993Apr21.032905.29286@reed.edu>, rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour) writes: >>In article <1993Apr20.174246.14375@wam.umd.edu> lerxst@wam.umd.edu (where's my thing) writes: >>> It was called a Bricklin. > >>Bricklins were manufactured in the 70s with engines from Ford. > >Waitaminnit, didn't the Bricklin have an Pugeot six-cylinder? Or am I >confusing it with the DeLorean? I was sure the DeLorean had a v8. > The DeLorean had the yucky PRV V6 engine. A joint-venture between Peugout (note spelling), Renault and Volvo. PRV. This engine is a *MIGHTY BORING* piece of junk with approx 140hp. Doesn't like revs at all. If you look at the DeLorean in the movie Back To the Future you will note that they changed the engine sound to a big V8. A real DeLorean doesn't sounds half as good. You will also note that every time they have to spin the tires in the movie the ground is all wet. This is because a DeLorean can't make a burnout on a dry road! The weak engine thats mounted over the rear axle makes it almost impossible. Markus >Larry Smith (smith@ctron.com) No, I don't speak for Cabletron. Need you ask? >- >Liberty is not the freedom to do whatever we want, >it is the freedom to do whatever we are able.
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In article <C4ux99.AIC@ra.nrl.navy.mil> khan@itd.itd.nrl.navy.mil (Umar Khan) writes: Stuff deleted >Is there a concordance for the FAQ? WHich translation is considered >most authoritative? Is there an orthodox commentary for the FAQ >available? Is there one FAQ for militant atheists and another for >moderate atheists; or, do you all read from the same FAQ? If so, >how do you resolve differences of interpretation? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm............................................. I can put the same question to followers of any religion. How do you Moslems resolve differences of opinion ?? Don't tell me that there is one interpretation of the Quran. Read the soc.culture.* newsgroups. You will zillions of different interpretations. -- Naren naren@TEKIG1.PEN.TEK.COM All standard disclaimers apply
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Lovely arguments. But do we write about historical ownership of any place - Palestine, Pakistan, Cyprus, Aegean Islands (and the oil that may lie beneath them), whatever - for any reason other than justification for stomping others? DOES IT TRULY MATTER whose ancestor lived where 20, 200, or 2000 years ago? More than how you treat the land and each other? Who is wise enough to decree that a person's right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness in a particular place depends on accidents of birth? Who can even be sure about the precise tracks of the sperm that birthed the people we wish to despise? IMHO, the American Indians have it right. We belong to the earth, it does not belong to us. Failure to understand that is a good way to cause lossage all the way around. My guess is that once we trash our environment sufficiently we shall die along with it - the baby eating and killing its mother, then dying for lack of milk. Death and disease do not respect national boundaries, not as toxins, disease vectors, lost farmland/wetlands/forest cover/water supplies, nor any other way. When we fight over which national group owns which piece of turf, we are merely contending for the best vantage point from which to kill others, "our" land and eventually ourselves. That is something of which to be proud. Very proud. Makes me glad to be human. I'm not mindlessly rejecting all nationalism. Maybe it's fair to ask whether a recent immigrant deserves a share of the infrastructure that all _my_ ancestors (hah!) labored to produce. But it's an artificial distinction: is the recent immigrant, even a refugee, less likely to contribute to the next generation's legacy than anyone else? [In history the reverse is often the case: recent immigrants strive hardest. If nothing else, they fill open eco(l/n)ogic niches.] Then again, my tribe is infinitely better than your tribe, so I can understand you all have nothing but plot to knock me off. While I, of course, will make sure it doesn't happen, even if I must shoot Muslim infants (or bash Jewish ones against the walls of schoolhouses) to do so. That'll prove my moral superiority, by golly, as well as the rightness of my cause. Clearly, there is no higher purpose in life than killing others because they are not like you. I would never get in the way of such fun. Let's see: soc.culture.turkish - Why don't you Turks go back to Lake Baikal where you came from, and leave the land to the Greeks, who stole it fair and square from the Scythians? soc.culture.pakistan - Why don't you guys redistribute yourselves over India, as God meant for you to do? soc.culture.jewish, soc.culture.arabic - we stick together, fight together, die together. We are brothers, and inseparable. talk.politics.mideast - oh well, had to be there. Oded [Planning on being a Scythian irredentist, as soon as I finish my present assignment.] P.S.: I can't get a semi-decent death threat anymore? P.P.S.: Yeh, the Native Americans had it right. We had to kill them off to keep their sedition from spreading.
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skinner@sp94.csrd.uiuc.edu (Gregg Skinner) writes: >parker@ehsn17.cen.uiuc.edu (Robert S. Parker) writes: >>Ok, one last time. (yeah right) In order for *you* to "not pay for any >>abortions" through your tax money, *everyone* would have to "not pay for >>any abortions" through tax money. >"Ok, one last time. (yeah right)" >Many who oppose federal funding for abortions would be quite happy >simply to specify that their tax money not be used to support programs >to which they morally object. Failing that (the House Ways and Means >Committee has so far rejected similar proposals), their only recourse >is to object to the program itself. This they do, but you don't seem >to like that. What other choice do you offer? You suggest they >should not consider how portions of their individual tax money are >spent. Why not? Suppose you had the option to specify that your tax money can't pay for abortions. Do you think that that should entitle you to pay *less* taxes? Since refusing to fund abortions would lead to an even larger increase in funding for pre-natal care and delivery, if anything you should pay *more* taxes. Suppose we let your taxes stay at the same level. Do you really think that funding for abortion would be reduced? No, your taxes would go towards other things, and more taxes from those who don't object to paying for abortion would be moved from those other things to pay for abortions. All that happens is that the funds get shuffled around, to give you a clear conscience. Why put the government through all that paperwork when the end result is no different? Why worry about it when it makes no difference and it doesn't hurt you in the least. >Your advice, > People should stop worrying about where their individual money is > going and instead *vote* for how government should spend *all* > the money it gets. Currently the duly-elected president proposes > that federal medical programs include abortions in their coverage. > If the duly-elected Congress goes along with it, well there you > go...that is how our system of representation works. > [Parenthetical comments removed.] >is similar to the horrible advice some offer potential rape victims: >"It's going to happen anyway, so you might as well just lie back and >enjoy it". That is the most rediculous out-of-context analogy I have every heard. I do not advocate any such "advice". There is quite a difference between the illegal violation called "rape", and the constitutionally granted power of taxation along with the funding of legal procedures. If you can't see the difference you can go to hell. >Care to respond this time, Mr. Parker? >The following challenges remain unmet by Mr. Parker. From his own >comments we are left to presume they were "too much" for him. Your yanking followups to posts of mine (from other threads?) does not demonstrate any deliberate lack of response on my part. There is a great deal of bandwidth on talk.abortion, and it can take a long time to get through to the followups to articles I have posted, and many times responses expire before I get to reading them. It is pretty fucking arrogant of you to pull copies here and demand that I respond to them here when they were posted already and quite possibly responded to separately. I believe I *have* indeed responded to some of the following previously--though probably not each of them. >-- >parker@ehsn17.cen.uiuc.edu (Robert S. Parker) writes: By the way, thanks *so* much for deleting the context of this next line in your followup to it. >>No, I have some objective, *non*-religious reasons with justification for >>why "personity" makes an appropriate value system. >Please define "personity" and enumerate the reasons which justify it >as an appropriate value system. I have done so in the past. It isn't my fault that you never saw it. Here is a *brief* explanation. A person has a right to do anything that does not interfere with the rights of another person. If you want to hear more about this aspect of "personity" go read the thread "Why is bodily autonomy so important?" on talk.abortion. You may have to look at all unexpired posts on that thread to find the post where I give a fairly detailed explanation. I believe it was posted on April 18 or 19. The second part is a definition of a person. A simplistic explanation is that a "person" is a member of society. Most normal adult human beings are good examples of "people". Most children over two years old are "people" as well. The simple way of determining this is that you can have a conversation with them. It is actually more complicated than that, but I have no desire to spend the time it would take to explain it to you. Read the thread "Why is bodily autonomy so important?" for more explanation and justification. >-- >parker@ehsn17.cen.uiuc.edu (Robert S. Parker) writes: >>If the government refused >>to fun abortions (due to the qualms of a minority of the population) then >>it would then have to pay *far more* in the delivery of babies whose >>mothers wanted an abortion, but could not afford one, and now that baby >>will also require care for 18 years. >Have you statistics that demonstrate the majority of the population >has no qualm with government funding for abortions? I suspect you >fail to account for the position of the person who wishes abortion >neither banned nor federally funded. Actually, I was refering to the minority that objects to abortion, not those who object to federal funding. I admit I did not say it very clearly, and apologize for that. Do you have statistics that might answer this question? Or are you just blowing smoke. >>A Pro-choice president (1 of 2 who *ran*) was elected. That means the >>country basically supports the choice to have an abortion. [...] >Surely you don't wish to suggest the recent presidential election was >nothing more than a nationwide referendum on the abortion issue. I said what I said. If you had not deleted most of it, everyone could see for themselves what I said. >>To refuse to fund abortions [...] is to remove that choice from some >>women, *and* add the additional burden to society for no reason. >Are we simply to take it on your authority that there is "no reason"? If you disagree then give us some "reasons". Given that abortion is *LEGAL* and the right to abortion is supported by the majority of the population (or can you provide unbiased statistics? I doubt you can because I have never heard of an unbiased poll that has been conducted.) ...it is not justifiable to refuse abortions to women who can not afford them, who will simply require even greater funds for the delivery you would force upon them. I refuse to pay *more taxes* to remove choice from those women just because you object to a legal medical procedure. >Where does it end? To refuse to fund the free distribution of guns is >to remove the choice to own a gun from some women and add the burden >of police protection to society. More guns in society does not reduce the burden on the police; it increases it. > To refuse to provide everyone with >an automobile is to remove the choice to drive from some women and add >the additional burden of public transportation to society. Now this is rediculous. Public transportation puts less of a burden on transportation routes (roads, rails, etc) than private transportation. It also puts a lesser burden on the environment. > To refuse >to fund a jobs for everyone is to remove the choice to work from some >women and add the additional burden of unemployment to society. Oh this makes sense. Ever hear of "welfare"? Know what it's all about? >-- >parker@ehsn17.cen.uiuc.edu (Robert S. Parker) writes: >>Not to mention the fact that the people who would get the death >>penalty are convicted of *horrible* crimes. Senseless murders, >>multiple murders, and so on. One could argue that these people have >>no right to live in our society. >Please show us this argument. I suspect it is quite strained, as it >must include those wrongly convicted, who remain innocent regardless >of the severity of the crimes. I said one *could argue* it, I didn't say it was a convincing argument. >>We do not want them *ever*, and we should not have to pay to keep >>them alive for as long as they happen to live. >First infants, now certain adults. Does anyone have a right to life, >Mr. Parker? If so, precisely who? Not "infants" you idiot. Infants are born. Who has a "right to life"? People who have not violated other's rights, have a "right to life". A fetus is not a person. You can not have a conversation with them. They are not biologically independent. Their awareness is questionable. They have no experiences in the "real world" to make up a personality. >-- >parker@ehsn17.cen.uiuc.edu (Robert S. Parker) writes: >>hudson@athena.cs.uga.edu (Paul Hudson Jr) writes: >>>If its a matter of money, we could save a lot of money by killing off >>>anyone with an expensive illness. It may decrease our population a bit, >>>but we will have plenty of money to go around. >>Hey, why not? Oh wait, maybe their family members would object. Ya think? >>Their parents/children/brothers/sisters... Is that the case with abortion? >And if no family member objects, should we allow this killing? Should >we include it as a cost-saving device in our health care reform >package? (These questions are not rhetorical.) Ever hear of "euthanasia"? Ever hear of insurance companies refusing to fund potentially life-saving treatment because they don't feel there is sufficient evidence that it will work to be worth the expense? Which one gets you angrier? Why is that? -Rob
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The subject line says it all -- I'm trying to locate a copy of SPI's board game "War of the Ring." Anyone have a copy with which they are willing to part? Thanks a million ... -- Tony (tlin@stat.berkeley.edu)
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Hi, I need xrn and xarchie for the HP's (9000/730, version 8 OS), either in the source form or, (preferably) in executable form. Please suggest where I can find this, Send e-mail to: rao@cse.uta.edu Thanks in advance, Rao. -- SSC
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Hi all! Quick question. Could someone please send me a pinout of the cable that goes between a NeXT cube and the monitor? Also, I am interested in the video signal (sync type, horz/vert rate) so any information on that would be greatly appreciated also. Thanks! Ryan Brooks ryan@agnus.mcs.mu.edu
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In article <1r7utbINNgoc@bigbird.williams.edu> 96csw@williams.edu (Walter "Gib" Gibson) writes: > And therefore conclude that the argument that "Well, it would >be better that the baby NOT be brought up under poor conditions" makes >no sense, and is in fact a very egocentric point of view- Scuse, please, are you under the impression that this argument is made in a vacuum, and that somehow only the fetus' potential life is being considered? I would guess, from your 'very egocentric' comment that you do not, in which case I have to ask just what the hell is wrong with egocentrism when one is making a fundamental choice about one's life? Don't *you* consult *your* *own* wants when *you* make decisions about your life? I haven't noticed you asking *me* about what *I* want from you.... I've got some *great* ideas. If egocentrism is ruled out, you can show up tomorrow 8am and I'll put you to work. Adrienne Regard
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In article <1993Mar31.014237.28478@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> dwoo@unb.ca writes: >To all the W4W experts: > >I have a file that is three pages long with 10 to 12 1-line equations >plus a 5"by 2" diagram. The size of this file is about 81KB before >unlinking all the embedded objects and 30KB after unlinking all the >embedded objects. Well, when I print it (since I don't have a laser >printer, I have to send it to a print file), W4W gives me back a >BBBBBBIG file that is well over 6MB long. I just fail to see how a 81K >file can be boosted to a 6MB file. Obviously, I will not able to carry >this 6MB+ file to the public printer unless I find myself a network >card, a cable etc. > >Could anyone please enlighten me with a solution? (I already try to >print a page at a time, it still won't fit into a HD floppy) > >Thanx a mil. > > > >***************************************************************** >* Dennis Woo Department of Mechanical Engineering * >* E-mail: dwoo@unb.ca University of New Brunswick * >* Tel: (506) 453-4513 * >***************************************************************** > > I once had this problem. All I did was to copy the whole doc to a new file. The problem was gone. Hope this helps. Hua
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In article <rlglendeC5t133.En3@netcom.com> rlglende@netcom.com (Robert Lewis Glendenning) writes: >First, what the fuck is NASA doing wasting my tax dollars doing >policy papers on stuff far outside of their purvew/mission? I don't think they're paying for it. >Do us a favor. Resign rather than right this paper for NASA. Go >do useful work for the society. Useful? I find his estimate of the annual value to law enforcement of $5 million quite useful, if rough (e.g. wiretaps may be preferentially used on otherwise-hard-to-catch criminals, resulting in an underestimate). This comes to twenty cents a head over the U.S. population. I would find some rigorous numbers on this quite useful -- it would make for nice slogans: "Your privacy is worth $0.37", or whatever it turns out to be. >Lew Glendenning rlglende@netcom.com PGP 2 key by finger or e-mail Eli ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu
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