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7000	From: betts@netcom.com (Jonathan Betts) Subject: Ghost on Apple 12" Color -> user=insane!! Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Lines: 16 Dear Netters, My sister has an Apple 12" Color Display hooked up to an LC. Problem: There is an annoying, horizontal, ghost-like stripe that precesses vertically about once per second. It is about 1 cm high. She is in grave danger of going insane because of it. Any ideas of what it might be and how I might cure it for her? -Joe Betts betts@netcom.com PS: if I pick up the display (I thought it might be RFI from the LC) it seems to get worse!
7001	From: dbernard@clesun.Central.Sun.COM (Dave Bernard) Subject: Re: JEEP WRANGLER - OPINI Organization: Sun Microsystems Lines: 35 Distribution: world Reply-To: dbernard@clesun.Central.Sun.COM NNTP-Posting-Host: clesun.central.sun.com In article 4DB@vu-vlsi.ee.vill.edu, mobasser@vu-vlsi.ee.vill.edu (Bijan Mobasseri) writes: >How do I square this with a respectable resale value? Easy- if it's expensive > to buy new, it's gonna be expensive to buy used. >=============================== >A patently false statement. Try this logic on an Alfa 164. In fact, >marketplace has a wonderufl mechanism to "adjust" the value of the cars that >are overpriced by the manufacturer. If it is expensive to buy new it is NOT >necessarily expnesive to buy used. In fact, it could be real cheap to buy >used, depending what that car is of course. Note that I do not question your >statements on the reliability of Wrangler. I have never owned one, driven one >or been in one (I do love to have one though!). What I don't understand is why >this apparent neglect of quality for so many years has not filtered down into >the used market.Is Jeep so intoxicating, so irresistable and so seductive as >to make its purchase a fatal attraction?. > >Bijan Yep. They are popular vehicles. You don't see a lot of previous model year ones sitting on dealer's lots for any lenghth of time after the new ones are out. The things sell, they are popular. Because they are popular, and high-priced new, they are high price used, very simple. I knew they were overpriced when I bought it... I knew they had a terrible reliability record when I bought it. But I didn't expect anything like I got, especially with a dealer network unable to repair it. Personal experience has quickly cured me of my infatuation with the machine. Dave
7002	From: dozonoff@bu.edu (david ozonoff) Subject: Re: food-related seizures? Lines: 22 X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5 Sharon Paulson (paulson@tab00.larc.nasa.gov) wrote: : {much deleted] : : : The fact that this happened while eating two sugar coated cereals made : by Kellog's makes me think she might be having an allergic reaction to : something in the coating or the cereals. Of the four of us in our : immediate family, Kathryn shows the least signs of the hay fever, running : nose, itchy eyes, etc. but we have a lot of allergies in our family history : including some weird food allergies - nuts, mushrooms. : Many of these cereals are corn-based. After your post I looked in the literature and located two articles that implicated corn (contains tryptophan) and seizures. The idea is that corn in the diet might potentiate an already existing or latent seizure disorder, not cause it. Check to see if the two Kellog cereals are corn based. I'd be interested. -- David Ozonoff, MD, MPH \|Boston University School of Public Health dozonoff@med-itvax1.bu.edu \|80 East Concord St., T3C (617) 638-4620 \|Boston, MA 02118
7003	From: andrew@idacom.hp.com (Andrew Scott) Subject: USENET Hockey Draft week 26 price list Organization: Hewlett-Packard, IDACOM Telecommunications Division Lines: 264 Here is the price list for the week April 6 to April 12. - Andrew Buy Sell Pts Team Player 157.5 141.8 150 PIT Mario_Lemieux 152.1 136.9 143 BUF Pat_LaFontaine 139.3 125.4 131 BOS Adam_Oates 133.8 120.4 129 DET Steve_Yzerman 132.9 119.6 125 WPG Teemu_Selanne 132.9 119.6 125 TOR Doug_Gilmour 130.9 117.8 120 NYI Pierre_Turgeon 129.7 116.7 122 BUF Alexander_Mogilny 126.0 113.4 117 PHI Mark_Recchi 120.2 108.2 113 LA Luc_Robitaille 115.9 104.3 109 QUE Mats_Sundin 111.3 100.2 106 PIT Kevin_Stevens 108.5 97.7 102 STL Craig_Janney 108.5 97.7 102 VAN Pavel_Bure 106.3 95.7 100 CHI Jeremy_Roenick 105.3 94.8 99 QUE Joe_Sakic 104.0 93.6 99 PIT Rick_Tocchet 103.1 92.8 97 STL Brett_Hull 102.1 91.9 96 BOS Joe_Juneau 102.1 91.9 96 TOR Dave_Andreychuk 101.9 91.7 97 PIT Ron_Francis 99.8 89.8 95 MTL Vincent_Damphousse 98.9 89.0 93 MIN 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66.5 59.9 61 HFD Zarley_Zalapski 66.4 59.8 64 DET Ray_Sheppard 64.9 58.4 61 TOR Glenn_Anderson 64.1 57.7 61 SJ Johan_Garpenlov 63.8 57.4 60 OTT Norm_Maciver 63.0 56.7 60 MTL Mike_Keane 63.0 56.7 60 PIT Shawn_McEachern 62.7 56.4 59 LA Rob_Blake 62.7 56.4 59 LA Wayne_Gretzky 62.5 56.3 58 PHI Garry_Galley 62.5 56.3 58 PHI Brent_Fedyk 61.1 55.0 56 NYI Pat_Flatley 60.6 54.5 57 CGY Sergei_Makarov 60.6 54.5 57 NJ Bernie_Nicholls 60.1 54.1 58 DET Steve_Chiasson 59.5 53.6 56 CHI Steve_Smith 59.5 53.6 56 QUE Scott_Young 59.1 53.2 57 DET Paul_Ysebaert 58.9 53.0 54 NYR Sergei_Nemchinov 58.5 52.7 55 NJ Valeri_Zelepukin 58.2 52.4 54 WSH Pat_Elynuik 58.2 52.4 54 TB John_Tucker 58.2 52.4 54 PHI Kevin_Dineen 57.4 51.7 54 VAN Greg_Adams 56.4 50.8 53 WPG Darrin_Shannon 55.6 50.0 51 NYR Darren_Turcotte 55.3 49.8 52 NJ Scott_Stevens 55.0 48.8 51 CHI Christian_Ruuttu 55.0 48.8 51 VAN Dixon_Ward 55.0 48.8 51 WPG Fredrik_Olausson 55.0 48.2 49 NYR Ed_Olczyk 55.0 47.9 50 WPG Keith_Tkachuk 55.0 47.2 48 NYI Jeff_Norton 55.0 46.9 49 TOR John_Cullen 55.0 46.9 49 VAN Anatoli_Semenov 55.0 46.9 49 CGY Al_MacInnis 55.0 46.9 49 BOS Stephen_Leach 55.0 45.9 48 CHI Brent_Sutter 55.0 45.4 48 MTL Denis_Savard 55.0 45.2 46 HFD Terry_Yake 55.0 45.0 47 NJ John_MacLean 55.0 44.6 46 WSH Sylvain_Cote 55.0 44.0 46 EDM Petr_Klima 55.0 44.0 46 EDM Shayne_Corson 55.0 44.0 46 LA Tomas_Sandstrom 55.0 44.0 46 EDM Craig_Simpson 55.0 43.5 46 MTL Gilbert_Dionne 55.0 43.2 44 NYI Vladimir_Malakhov 55.0 43.0 45 BOS Dave_Poulin 55.0 43.0 45 STL Kevin_Miller 55.0 43.0 45 LA Alexei_Zhitnik 55.0 43.0 45 QUE Martin_Rucinsky 55.0 43.0 45 WPG Evgeny_Davydov 55.0 42.7 44 WSH Kelly_Miller 55.0 42.1 44 EDM Doug_Weight 55.0 42.1 44 EDM Dave_Manson 55.0 41.2 42 HFD Patrick_Poulin 55.0 41.1 43 CHI Michel_Goulet 55.0 40.7 42 PHI Pelle_Eklund 55.0 40.2 42 MIN Mark_Tinordi 55.0 39.7 42 MTL Mathieu_Schneider 55.0 39.2 41 CGY Paul_Ranheim 55.0 39.2 41 EDM Todd_Elik 55.0 39.2 41 BOS Vladimir_Ruzicka 55.0 39.2 41 OTT Sylvain_Turgeon 55.0 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26.8 28 CHI Brian_Noonan 55.0 26.8 28 EDM Scott_Mellanby 55.0 26.5 28 SJ Pat_Falloon 55.0 25.8 27 STL Igor_Korolev 55.0 25.6 26 NYR James_Patrick 55.0 24.8 26 BUF Petr_Svoboda 55.0 23.9 25 OTT Mark_Lamb 55.0 23.2 24 TB Mikael_Andersson 55.0 22.6 23 NYI Scott_LaChance 55.0 22.1 23 EDM Kevin_Todd 55.0 21.3 22 WSH Bob_Carpenter 55.0 21.1 22 TOR Bill_Berg 55.0 21.1 22 WPG Sergei_Bautin 55.0 20.8 22 MTL Benoit_Brunet 55.0 20.6 21 NYI David_Volek 55.0 20.6 21 HFD Mikael_Nylander 55.0 20.1 21 MIN Brent_Gilchrist 55.0 19.6 20 NYR Phil_Bourque 55.0 19.6 20 NYI Ray_Ferraro 55.0 18.6 19 HFD Yvon_Corriveau 55.0 18.2 19 EDM Martin_Gelinas 55.0 17.7 19 DET Jim_Hiller 55.0 17.6 18 NYI Darius_Kasparaitis 55.0 17.5 18 PHI Andrei_Lomakin 55.0 17.2 18 BUF Donald_Audette 55.0 15.5 16 TB Roman_Hamrlik 55.0 15.1 16 SJ Mark_Pederson 55.0 14.2 15 PIT Martin_Straka 55.0 12.4 13 NJ Janne_Ojanen 55.0 12.4 13 OTT Tomas_Jelinek 55.0 11.5 12 CHI Joe_Murphy 55.0 10.8 11 NYR Peter_Andersson 55.0 10.6 11 TB Steve_Kasper 55.0 10.5 11 BOS Cam_Neely 55.0 9.5 10 MIN Bobby_Smith 55.0 9.5 10 SJ Ray_Whitney 55.0 8.8 9 HFD Robert_Petrovicky 55.0 8.6 9 BUF Viktor_Gordijuk 55.0 7.7 8 QUE Mikhail_Tatarinov 55.0 7.7 8 TOR Joe_Sacco 55.0 7.6 8 SJ Peter_Ahola 55.0 6.7 7 CHI Rob_Brown 55.0 6.7 7 BOS Glen_Murray 55.0 5.9 6 HFD Tim_Kerr 55.0 4.9 5 WSH Reggie_Savage 55.0 4.8 5 STL Vitali_Prokhorov 55.0 4.8 5 LA Robert_Lang 55.0 4.8 5 EDM Shaun_Van_Allen 55.0 3.9 4 BOS Jozef_Stumpel 55.0 3.9 4 MIN Dan_Quinn 55.0 3.8 4 PIT Bryan_Fogarty 55.0 3.7 4 DET Viacheslav_Kozlov 55.0 2.9 3 TB Stan_Drulia 55.0 2.9 3 MIN Brian_Propp 55.0 2.9 3 MTL Olav_Petrov 55.0 2.0 2 WSH Jason_Woolley 55.0 1.9 2 NJ Claude_Vilgrain 55.0 0.0 0 VAN Igor_Larionov 55.0 0.0 0 TB Brent_Gretzky 55.0 0.0 0 OTT Alexei_Yashin 55.0 0.0 0 QUE Peter_Forsberg 55.0 0.0 0 EDM Dean_McAmmond 55.0 0.0 0 WSH Brian_Sakic 55.0 0.0 0 WSH Randy_Burridge 55.0 0.0 0 MTL Patrick_Kjellberg 55.0 0.0 0 CGY Cory_Stillman 55.0 0.0 0 CHI Sergei_Krivokrasov 55.0 0.0 0 BUF Jason_Dawe -- Andrew Scott \| andrew@idacom.hp.com HP IDACOM Telecom Operation \| (403) 462-0666 ext. 253 During the Roman Era, 28 was considered old...
7004	From: julia@netcom.com (Julia Miller) Subject: Posix Message Catalogs Keywords: Posix Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Lines: 17 Can someone tell me in 25 words or less how to compile posix message catalogs so that I can use them with catgets, catopen, etc. I know what the format for the catalogs is, but don't know how to compile them. Please reply to chas@blackwhite.com Thanks in advance, chas Black & White Software, Inc. \| Leaders in Systems & Software Solutions 2155 S. Bascom Ave. Suite 210 \| Contact Black & White for information on Campbell, CA 95008 \| X Windows & OSF/Motif Software & Support (408) 369-7400 \| OSF/Motif & MS-Windows GUI Builders (408) 369-7406 \| Add on Widgets, Editors and Help Systems info@blackwhite.com \| C++ and Ada Motif Bindings
7005	From: jbh55289@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Josh Hopkins) Subject: Re: Griffin / Office of Exploration: RIP Article-I.D.: news.C51r3o.9wK Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 23 yamauchi@ces.cwru.edu (Brian Yamauchi) writes: >Any comments on the absorbtion of the Office of Exploration into the >Office of Space Sciences and the reassignment of Griffin to the "Chief >Engineer" position? Is this just a meaningless administrative >shuffle, or does this bode ill for SEI? Unfortunately, things have been boding ill (is that a legitimate conjugation?) for a while. While the Office of Exploration had some great ideas, they never got much money. I've heard good things about Griffin, but it's hard to want him back in a job where he couldn't do anything. >Does anyone know what his new duties will be? The group examining the Freedom-based space station redesign proposals is headed by Michael Griffin, "NASA's cheif engineer" in the words of Space News. I believe this is him. -- Josh Hopkins jbh55289@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu "Tout ce qu'un homme est capable d'imaginer, d'autres hommes seront capable de la realiser" -Jules Verne
7006	From: 18084TM@msu.edu (Tom) Subject: Economics X-Added: Forwarded by Space Digest Organization: [via International Space University] Original-Sender: isu@VACATION.VENARI.CS.CMU.EDU Distribution: sci Lines: 14 >If all the ecomomists in the world were laid end to end . . . >Punchline #1: they would all point in different directions. >Punchline #2: they wouldn't reach a conclusion. Punchline #3: it would be a good idea just to leave them there. -Tommy Mac ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom McWilliams 517-355-2178 wk \\ As the radius of vision increases, 18084tm@ibm.cl.msu.edu 336-9591 hm \\ the circumference of mystery grows. -------------------------------------------------------------------------
7007	From: stevew@helios.unl.edu (Steve Wu) Subject: CRYPTO 93 FINAL CALL Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Lines: 258 NNTP-Posting-Host: helios.unl.edu ............................................................................ CRYPTO '93 - Conference Announcement & Final Call for Papers ............................................................................ The Thirteenth Annual CRYPTO Conference, sponsored by the International Association for Cryptologic Research (IACR), in cooperation with the IEEE Computer Society Technical Committee on Security and Privacy, the Computer Science Department of the University of California, Santa Barbara, and Bell-Northern Research (a subsidiary of Northern Telecom), will be held on the campus of the University of California, Santa Barbara, on August 22-26, 1993. Original research papers and technical expository talks are solicited on all practical and theoretical aspects of cryptology. It is anticipated that some talks may also be presented by special invitation of the Program Committee. ------------------------- INSTRUCTIONS FOR AUTHORS: Authors are requested to send 12 copies of a detailed abstract (not a full paper) by April 26, 1993, to the Program Chair at the address given below. A limit of 10 pages of 12pt type (not counting the bibliography or the title page) is placed on all submissions. Submissions must arrive on time or be postmarked no later than April 21, 1993 and sent by airmail in order to receive consideration by the Program Committee. It is required that submissions start with a succinct statement of the problem addressed, the solution proposed, and its significance to cryptology, appropriate for a non-specialist reader. Technical development directed to the specialist should follow as needed. ------------------------- Abstracts that have been submitted to other conferences that have proceedings are NOT eligible for submission. Submissions MUST BE ANONYMOUS. This means that names and affiliations of authors should only appear on the title page of the submission; it should be possible to remove this page and send the papers to Program Committee members. A Latex style file that produces output in this format is available by email from the Program Chair. Authors will be informed of acceptance or rejection in a letter mailed on or before June 21, 1993. A compilation of all accepted abstracts will be available at the conference in the form of pre-proceedings. Authors of accepted abstracts will be allowed to submit revised versions for the pre-proceedings. A revised abstract should contain only minor changes and corrections to the originally submitted abstract. All revised abstracts must be received by the Program Chair by July 16, 1993. THE 10 PAGE LIMIT WILL BE STRICTLY ENFORCED for the pre-proceedings. Complete conference proceedings are expected to be published in Springer- Verlag's Lecture Notes in Computer Science series at a later date, pending negotiation. ------------------------- The Program Committee consists of D. Stinson (Chair, Nebraska) M. Bellare (IBM T. J. Watson) E. Biham (Technion, Israel) E. Brickell (Sandia National Labs) J. Feigenbaum (AT&T Bell Labs) R. Impagliazzo (UCSD) A. Odlyzko (AT&T Bell Labs) T. Okamoto (NTT, Japan) B. Pfitzmann (Hildesheim, Germany) R. Rueppel (R3, Switzerland) S. Vanstone (Waterloo, Canada) ------------------------- Send submissions to the Program Chair: Douglas R. Stinson, Crypto '93 Computer Science and Engineering Department 115 Ferguson Hall, University of Nebraska Lincoln, NE 68588-0115 USA Telephone: (402)-472-7791 Fax: (402)-472-7767 Internet: stinson@bibd.unl.edu For other information, contact the General Chair: Paul C. Van Oorschot, Crypto '93 Bell-Northern Research (MAIL STOP 000) 3500 Carling Ave. Nepean, Ontario K2H 8E9 Canada Telephone: (613)-763-4199 Fax: (613)-763-2626 Internet: crypto93@bnr.ca ............................................................................ CRYPTO '93 - General Information (August 22 - 26, 1993) ............................................................................ THE PROGRAM: Crypto'93 is the thirteenth in a series of workshops on cryptology held at Santa Barbara, and is sponsored by the International Association for Cryptologic Research, in cooperation with the IEEE Computer Society Technical Committee on Security and Privacy, the Computer Science Department of the University of California, Santa Barbara, and Bell-Northern Research (a subsidiary of Northern Telecom). The program for the workshop will cover all aspects of cryptology. Extended abstracts of the papers presented at the conference will be distributed to all attendees at the conference, and formal proceedings will be published at a later date. In addition to the regular program of papers selected or invited by the program committee, there will be a rump session on Tuesday evening for informal presentations. Facilities will also be provided for attendees to demonstrate hardware, software and other items of cryptographic interest. If you wish to demonstrate such items, you are urged to contact the General Chair so that your needs will be attended to. The social program will include hosted cocktail parties on Sunday and Monday. In addition, there will be a beach barbecue on Wednesday evening. The price of the barbecue is included in the room and board charge, and extra tickets may be purchased. ABOUT THE CONFERENCE FACILITIES: The workshop will be held on the campus of the University of California, Santa Barbara. The campus is located adjacent to the Santa Barbara airport and the Pacific Ocean. Accommodations are available in the university dormitories at relatively low cost for conference participants. Children under the age of 13 are not allowed to stay in the dormitories, so those bringing small children will need to make separate arrangements in one of several nearby hotels. More information on hotels is enclosed. Parking on campus is available at no cost to the participants. However, participants must indicate on the registration form if they desire a parking permit. TRAVEL INFORMATION: The campus is located approximately 2 miles from the Santa Barbara airport, which is served by several airlines, including American, America West, Delta, United, and US Air. Free shuttle bus service will be provided between the Santa Barbara airport and the campus on Sunday and Thursday afternoons. All major rental car agencies are also represented in Santa Barbara, and AMTRAK has rail connections to San Francisco from the north and Los Angeles from the south. Santa Barbara is approximately 100 miles north of Los Angeles airport, and 350 miles south of San Francisco. REGISTRATION: Participation is invited by interested parties, but attendance at the workshop is limited, and pre-registration is strongly advised. Late registrations, subject to a late registration fee, may be accepted if space is available, but there are NO GUARANTEES. To register, fill out the attached registration form and return to the address on the form along with payment in full before July 9, 1993. Campus accommodations will be available on a first come, first serve basis for attendees who register by July 9, 1993. The conference fees include participation in the program and all social functions, as well as membership to the IACR and a subscription to the Journal of Cryptology. The room and board charges include dormitory lodging and meals >from dinner on Sunday to lunch on Thursday. Technical sessions will run >from Monday morning to Thursday at noon. A very limited number of stipends are available to those unable to obtain funding. Applications for stipends should be sent to the General Chair before June 4, 1993. ............................................................................ CRYPTO '93 - CRYPTO '93 Registration Form ............................................................................ REGISTRATION DEADLINE: July 9, 1993 Last Name: _____________________________________________ First Name: _____________________________________________ Sex: (M)__ (F)__ Affiliation: _______________________________________________________________ Mailing Address: __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________ Phone: __________________________________ FAX: ___________________________ Electronic Mail: __________________________________________________________ Payment of the conference fee entitles you to membership in the International Association for Cryptologic Research for one year at no extra charge, including a subscription to the Journal of Cryptology, published by Springer- Verlag, at no extra charge. Do you wish to be an IACR member? YES__ NO__ The conference fee also includes the conference proceedings when they become available, containing final versions of conference papers. The book of extended abstracts distributed at the conference will contain only shortened preliminary versions of these papers (maximum 10 pages). Conference fee: Regular ($280) US$ _______ Attended Eurocrypt'93, Norway ($230) _______ Full time student ($190) _______ deduct $50 if you do not wish proceedings _______ Total conference fee: US$_______ Room and Board (4 nights): Smoking ___ Non-smoking ___ Single room ($275 per person) _______ Double room ($225 per person) _______ Roommate's name: ____________________________________ Extra barbecue tickets ($20 each; one is included in room and board) _______ $40 late fee for registration after July 9; REGISTRATION NOT GUARANTEED AFTER JULY 9 _______ Total funds enclosed (U.S. dollars): US$ _______ Payment must be by check PAYABLE IN U.S. FUNDS, by money order IN U.S. FUNDS, or by U.S. BANK DRAFT, payable to: CRYPTO'93. Payment should be mailed to the General Chair: Paul C. Van Oorschot, CRYPTO'93 Bell-Northern Research (MAIL STOP 000) 3500 Carling Ave. Nepean, Ontario K2H 8E9 Canada ............................................................................ CRYPTO '93 - Hotel Information ............................................................................ For those who choose not to stay in the dormitories, the following is a partial list of hotels in the area. Those who choose to stay off campus are responsible for making their own reservations, and early reservations are advised since August is a popular season in Santa Barbara. Note that Goleta is closer to UCSB than Santa Barbara, but that a car will probably be required to travel between any hotel and the campus. All prices are subject to change; prices should be confirmed by calling the individual hotels directly. However, mention CRYPTO'93 when you are making your reservation and in several of the hotels listed you will be eligible for the university rate which can be significantly less than the normal rates. We are not able to block rooms in these hotels, so please make reservations as early as possible. The quality of the hotels range from rather expensive beach-front resorts to basic inexpensive accommodations. For further information, try contacting the Santa Barbara Convention and Visitors Center, (805)-966-9222. South Coast Inn: 5620 Calle Real, Goleta, CA 93117. Regular rates: Single $89, Double $94; call for University rates. Contact Murrill Forrester at (805)-967-3200 or toll-free at (800)-350-3614. Cathedral Oaks Lodge: 4770 Calle Real, Santa Barbara, 93110. Single rates not available, Double rates start at $84 including breakfast; no University rates. Call Tom Patton at (805)-964-3511 or toll-free at (800)-654-1965. Motel 6: 5897 Calle Real, Goleta, CA 93117. Single $33.95, Double $39.95, no University rate available. Call (505)-891-6161. The Sandman Inn: 3714 State St., Santa Barbara, CA 93105. Regular rates: Single or Double $84, $94 for king-size, University rate $65. Call Jean Ingerle at (805)-687-2468 or toll-free at (800)-350-8174. Miramar Hotel (Beachfront): 3 miles south of Santa Barbara on U.S. 101 at San Ysidro turnoff. Regular rates: $70-$135. No University rates. Call (805)-969-2203. Pepper Tree Inn: 3850 State St., Santa Barbara, CA 93105. Regular rates: $106-$112 for two people, University rates $96-$102 for two people. Call Christopher Oliphant at (805)-687-5511 or toll-free at (800)-338-0030. Encina Lodge: 220 Bath Street, Santa Barbara, CA 93105. Regular rates $106-$108 for two people, no University rates. Call Carol Wolford at (805)-682-7550 or toll-free at (800)-526-2282. Quality Suites: 5500 Hollister Ave, Santa Barbara, CA 93111 (close to campus). Regular rates: Single $125, Double $145, University rates $99 double (must mention you are attending a UCSB program). Call Michael Ensign at (805)-683-6722. Upham Hotel (bed-and-breakfast): 1404 De La Vina Road, Santa Barbara, CA 93101. University rate $85 (mention you are from Crypto). Call Sheila Donegan at (805)-962-0058. ............................................................................ -- stevew@helios.unl.edu \|=\| \ Fender / \|=\| ... smoke on the water, fire in \|=\| \ / \|=\| the sky... Smoke on the water. stevew@hoss.unl.edu \|=\| \/ \|=\| (36 bars guitar solo) Deep purple, the best
7008	From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras) Subject: Re: ATF BURNS DIVIDIAN RANCH! NO SURVIVORS!!! Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc. Lines: 46 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: dale.handheld.com In article <1qvjh9INNh4l@hp-col.col.hp.com> dduff@col.hp.com (Dave Duff) writes: > NUT CASE PANICS!!!!JUMPS THE GUN ON THE NET BEFORE GETTING FACTS STRAIGHT!!!! I really don't understand all this! I watched on satellite network feeds as perhaps 90 people died before my eyes, while the two Huey's fanned the flames, and the FBI stopped the firetrucks at the gate. Something was VERY wrong with that scene. Perhaps if I'd watched RAMBO movies, I might've been dulled to the pain of fellow humans dying. Thank GOD I still feel. I'm very sorry for you who don't. For you who think they got what they deserved. Can you really believe that? Even if Koresh was the sadistic mad man they said he was, did the others deserve his fate? If, in fact, he was mad, wasn't that even more reason to believe he duped his followers, and therefore they were innocent, brainwashed, victims? Is there any scenaro that justifies all that death? And if not, it is clear that the deaths would not have occured if the BATF has not FUCKED UP initially, and now the FBI got impaitent and pushed Korech over the edge. And that's if you buy the latest version of the "story" hook, line, and sinker. I have believed all along that they could not let them live, the embarrassment to the BATF and the FBI would've been too severe. Remember, this was a suspicion of tax-evasion warrant. There were no witnesses, except the FBI. All information filtered through the FBI. All they had to do was allow one remote controlled pool camera be installed near the building, and the press could've done their job, and would've been able to back the FBI's story with close up video, while incurring no risk to the press. Unless they did not want the public to see something. The complete lack of any other source of information other than the FBI really causes me concern. Sick to my stomach, and getting sicker from all the Government apologists -- jmd@handheld.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I'm always rethinking that. There's never been a day when I haven't rethought that. But I can't do that by myself." Bill Clinton 6 April 93 "If I were an American, as I am an Englishman, while a foreign troop was landed in my country, I never would lay down my arms,-never--never--never!" WILLIAM PITT, EARL OF CHATHAM 1708-1778 18 Nov. 1777
7009	From: KINDER@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu (JIM COBB) Subject: ET 4000 /W32 VL-Bus Cards Organization: University of Florida, NERDC Lines: 3 NNTP-Posting-Host: nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu X-Newsreader: NNR/VM S_1.3.2 Does anyone know of a VL-Bus video card based on the ET4000 /W32 card? If so: how much will it cost, where can I get one, does it come with more than 1MB of ram, and what is the windows performance like?
7010	From: jpc@philabs.philips.com (John P. Curcio) Subject: ABC's announcers, ESPN's (lack of) coverage (WAS: Re: Atlanta ...) Originator: jpc@condor Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff, NY 10510 Lines: 38 In article <1993Apr19.160356.19160@newshub.ists.ca>, dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (Deepak Chhabra) writes: \|> Ok, here's the solution to your problem. Move to Canada. Yesterday I was able \|> to watch FOUR games...the NJ-PITT at 1:00 on ABC, LA-CAL at 3:00 (CBC), \|> BUFF-BOS at 7:00 (TSN and FOX), and MON-QUE at 7:30 (CBC). I think that if \|> each series goes its max I could be watching hockey playoffs for 40-some odd \|> consecutive nights (I haven't counted so that's a pure guess). The worst thing is that this is exactly what I did last year. I had the Rangers on MSG, and the two different games on SCNY and SCA on at the same time. Yes, I'd rather have SC cover it, just for the amount of coverage. \|> Btw, those ABC commentaters were great! I was quite impressed; they seemed \|> to know that their audience wasn't likely to be well-schooled in hockey lore \|> and they did an excellent job. They were quite impartial also, IMO. I think Thorne earns his money. The best part is that he is the same way when he is earning his $$ from SportsChannel as the Devils announcer (i.e., unbiased). He goes orgasmic for goals, despite which team scores, and even more excited (if possible) for great saves. He did a good job of explaining certain things to non-hockey types without offending those of us who follow the sport (unlike NBC's clowns for the ASG). -JPC (Ob. Playoff-time flame-bait) Don't any of you Pittsburgh fans tell me how Mike Lang(e) is better. Maybe if he were a little spontaneous, rather than reading rehearsed lines of B.S having nothing to do with hockey he would be better. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John P. Curcio Go Bruins! Philips Laboratories jpc@philabs.philips.com 345 Scarborough Road (914) 945-6442 Briarcliff Manor, NY 10510
7011	From: med50003@nusunix1.nus.sg (WANSAICHEONG KHIN-LIN) Subject: Re: MORBUS MENIERE - is there a real remedy? Organization: National University of Singapore X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6] Lines: 21 It would be nice to think that individuals can somehow 'beat the system' and like a space explorer, boldly go where no man has gone before and return with a prize cure. Unfortunately, too often the prize is limited and the efficacy of the 'cure' questionable when applied to all sufferers. This applies to both medical researchers and non-medical individuals. Just because it appears in an obscure journal and may be of some use does not make the next cure-all. What about the dozens of individuals who have courageously participated in clinical trials? Did they have any guarentee of cures? Are they any less because they didn't trumpet their story all over the world? As a parting note, wasn't there some studies done on Gingko seeds for Meniere's? (To the original poster : what about trying for a trial of that? It's probably not a final answer but it certainly may alleviate some of the discomfort. And you'd be helping answer the question for future sufferers.) gervais
7012	From: henrik@quayle.kpc.com Subject: Re: ARMENIA SAYS IT COULD SHOOT DOWN TURKISH PLANES Organization: NONE Lines: 49 In article <1993Apr20.000413.25123@ee.rochester.edu>, terziogl@ee.rochester.edu (Esin Terzioglu) writes: \|> In article <1993Apr19.155856.8260@kpc.com> henrik@quayle.kpc.com writes: \|> >In article <1993Apr17.185118.10792@ee.rochester.edu>, terziogl@ee.rochester.edu (Esin Terzioglu) writes: \|> >\|> In article <1993Apr16.195452.21375@urartu.sdpa.org> dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian) writes: \|> >\|> >04/16/93 1045 ARMENIA SAYS IT COULD SHOOT DOWN TURKISH PLANES \|> >\|> > \|> >\|> \|> >\|> Ermenistan kasiniyor... \|> >\|> \|> >\|> Let me translate for everyone else before the public traslation service gets \|> >\|> into it : Armenia is getting itchy. \|> >\|> \|> >\|> Esin. \|> > \|> > henrik]Let me clearify Mr. Turkish; henrik]ARMENIA is NOT getting "itchy". SHE is simply LETTING the WORLD henrik] KNOW that SHE WILL NO LONGER sit there QUIET and LET TURKS get henrik] away with their FAMOUS tricks. Armenians DO REMEMBER of the TURKISH henrik] invasion of the Greek island of CYPRESS WHILE the world simply WATCHED. Esin Terzioglu] Your ignorance is obvious from your posting. Esin Terzioglu] 1) Cyprus was an INDEPENDENT country with Turkish/Greek inhabitants (NOT a Greek island like your ignorant posting claims) Esin Terzioglu] 2) The name should be Cyprus (in English) Esin Terzioglu] next time read and learn before you post. Aside from spelling , why is that you TURKS DO NOT want to admit your past MISTAKES ? You know TURKISH INVASION of CYPRUS was a mistake and too bad that U.N. DID NOT do anything about it. You may ask : mistake ? Yes, I would say. Why is that the GREEKS DID NOT INVADE CYPRUS ? My response to the "shooting down" of a Turkish airplane over the Armenian air space was because of the IGNORANT posting of the person from your Country. Turks and Azeris consistantly WANT to drag ARMENIA into the KARABAKH conflict with Azerbaijan. The KARABAKHI-ARMENIANS who have lived in their HOMELAND for 3000 years (CUT OFF FROM ARMENIA and GIVEN TO AZERIS BY STALIN) are the ones DIRECTLY involved in the CONFLICT. They are defending themselves against AZERI AGGRESSION. Agression that has NO MERCY for INOCENT people that are costantly SHELLED with MIG-23's and othe Russian aircraft. At last, I hope that the U.S. insists that Turkey stay out of the KARABAKH crisis so that the repeat of the CYPRUS invasion WILL NEVER OCCUR again.
7013	From: "Justin R. Fortun" <jf4f+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: Playoff Predictions Organization: Freshman, IM - MCS/CIT Track, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: po4.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <1993Apr04.223559.7129@rose.com> >B(--> Stanley Cup Champion: Vancouver Canucks > >Sorry, Pittsburgh in a walk. > >- Jack First of all, the Penguins WILL win the cup again. Who is going to stop them? Definitely not the Canucks! My predictions: Patrick Division winner: Pittsburgh Adams Division winner: Quebec or Montreal Norris Division winner: Detroit Smythe Division winner: Winnipeg Wales conference champ: Pittsburgh Campbell Conference champ: Detroit Stanley Cup Champions(again): Pittsburgh Canucks suck. They'll lose in the first round, compliments of Winnipeg and Teemu Selanne. The Pens are almost unstoppable with Mario Lemieux.
7014	From: bergen@vaxb.acs.unt.edu Subject: Re: Need help with WP for Windows Lines: 26 Organization: University of North Texas Distribution: usa In article <1993Apr17.224402.92@kirk.msoe.edu>, narlochn@kirk.msoe.edu writes: > I have two questions: > > 1) I have been having troubles with my Wordperfect for Windows. > When I try to select and change fonts, etc. some of the text > disappears. I tried to center two lines once, and the second > line disappeared. I can not find the error, and I do not > know how to correct it. > > 2) Is this the right newsgroup? Where should I go? > > E-mail prefered... > > '/''/''/''/''/''/''/''/''/''/''/''/''/''/''/''/''/''/''/''/''/''/' I know you said E-mail preferred but because this is a common problem with WPWin I'll post it here. The screen only LOOKS like the text is gone. Usually you can just page-up then page-down and when it does a complete refresh the text reappears. I have had--on "rare" occasions--to completely exit (save first) the program. When I reopened the file, all chaos had been resolved. I don't know WHY it does this, but it is annoying. The graphics problems have now made me a Word for Windows user!!
7015	From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) Subject: Re: Wings take game one Keywords: The Detroit Red Wings - 6 ; The Toronto Maple Leafs - 3 Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department Lines: 28 In article <1993Apr20.032350.18885@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes: >In <1qvos8$r78@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> vergolin@euler.lbs.msu.edu (David Vergolini) writes: > >> The Detroit Red Wings put a lot of doubter on ice tonight with a 6 - 3 >>washing of the Toronto Maple Leafs. All you Toronto fans have now seen the >>power of the mighty Red Wing offense. Toronto's defense in no match for the >>Wing offense. As for the defense, Probert, Kennedey and Primeau came out > >Did they move Probert back to defense? Why did I see him parking his ass >in front of Potvin all night? Somebody is going to have to discipline >Probert if the Leafs want to win the series. Perhaps a fresh Clark should >hit the ice at the end of a long Probert shift and straigten him out for >a while... > During the regular season, when the intensity is down, not many teams have forwards who will continually go and park themselves in front of the opposing teams net...and the inadequacy of the Leafs defense in this regard thus didn't matter...however, the playoffs are a different story...every good team is going to have players who are going to become potted plants in front of Potvin...and the Leafs relatively unphysical defensive core will finally be exposed as weak an inept. Hard work will go a long way during the regular season...almost to 100 points...and the Leafs deserve credit for that...but in the playoffs talent matters, because everyone begins working hard. Gerald
7016	From: melons@vnet.IBM.COM (Mike Magil) Subject: Re: rejoinder. Questions to Israelis Lines: 48 >From: bc744@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Ira Kaufman) >Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast >Subject: Re: rejoinder. Questions to Israelis >Date: 23 Apr 1993 12:55:47 GMT >Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) > > > Although I realize that principle is not one of your strongest >points, I would still like to know why do do not ask any question >of this sort about the Arab countries. > > If you want to continue this think tank charade of yours, your >fixation on Israel must stop. You might have to start asking the >same sort of questions of Arab countries as well. You realize it >would not work, as the Arab countries' treatment of Jews over the >last several decades is so bad that your fixation on Israel would >begin to look like the biased attack that it is. > > Everyone in this group recognizes that your stupid 'Center for >Policy Research' is nothing more than a fancy name for some bigot >who hates Israel. > > Why don't you try being honest about your hatred of Israel? I >have heard that your family once lived in Israel, but the members >of your family could not cut the competition there. Is this true >about your family? Is this true about you? Is this actually not >about Israel, but is really a personal vendetta? Why are you not >the least bit objective about Israel? Do you think that the name >of your phony-baloney center hides your bias in the least? Get a >clue, Mr. Davidsson. Haven't you realized yet that when you post >such stupidity in this group, you are going to incur answers from >people who are armed with the truth? Haven't you realized that a >piece of selective data here and a piece there does not make up a >truth? Haven't you realized that you are in over your head? The >people who read this group are not as stupid as you would hope or >need them to be. This is not the place for such pseudo-analysis. >You will be continually ripped to shreds, until you start to show >some regard for objectivity. Or you can continue to show what an >anti-Israel zealot you are, trying to disguise your bias behind a >pompous name like the 'Center for Policy Research.' You ought to >know that you are a laughing stock, your 'Center' is considered a >joke, and until you either go away, or make at least some attempt >to be objective, you will have a place of honor among the clowns, >bigots, and idiots of Usenet. I couldn't have said it better, Mark! - Mike.
7017	From: kratz@cs.uiuc.edu (Jason Kratz) Subject: Re: criminals & machineguns Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Distribution: usa Lines: 52 In <1993Apr16.202441.16032@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) writes: >In article <93104.175256U28037@uicvm.uic.edu> Jason Kratz <U28037@uicvm.uic.edu> writes: >>people are getting killed by gang violence every day? Every single day I hear >>about more people getting killed by gang violence and see some of the weapons >>that are being confiscated. >Is Kratz claiming that he can reliably visually distinguish an M-16 >from an AR-15? That he can see the difference between a semi-auto and >a full-auto UZI? That he can see the difference between the various >versions (some full-auto, some semi-auto only) of the M-11/9? Well, let me see. UZI, no. M-11/9, no. M-16/AR-15, maybe. I remember there being a selector swtich on the AR-15. If I remember correctly (please correct me if I'm wrong) the switch would set to an "off" position or an "on" position because the gun (AR-15) is semi-automatic. Wouldn't the M-16 have a position for semi-auto fire and full-auto fire (or maybe 3 round bursts)? If this is correct wouldn't it be easy to distinguish each gun by this alone? Of course if the AR-15 were modified to full-auto fire I wouldn't think it would be that easy but I'm talking about distinguishing between an unmodified AR-15 and M-16. How about the other guns? Do they also have selector switch to switch between semi-auto and fully-auto fire? >If so, I'd love to hear the details, if only because they'll demonstrate >that Kratz is blowing smoke. >Considering that one can design a gun so that it looks just like >another gun, yet have very different properties, and that that's >quite common.... >Most kids in my neighborhood were quite young when they figured out >that my parents car wasn't much like Richard Petty's, even though it >looked just like it (except for the paint job). Things must have been >different with Kratz. Actually it was pretty hard for the kids in my neighborhood to figure that out as Richard Petty lived in my neighborhood and left his stock car in the driveway. ;-) >>Sure it's on TV but why does that make a difference? >No, it doesn't, but that's irrelevant. If visual inspection of the >outside worked, TV would be acceptable, but since it doesn't, the fact >that it's just as good as seeing in person doesn't mean much. Well, what about what I said above? If that is correct I guess TV would be acceptable (if you had a good enough picture and a picture of the lower receiver of the AR-15/M-16). >-andy gave Kratz a chance to back down on this in private >-- Jason Kratz <- didn't take andy's offer to back down in private
7018	From: mz@moscom.com (Matthew Zenkar) Subject: Re: CView answers Organization: Moscom Corp., E. Rochester, NY Lines: 15 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9] Cyberspace Buddha (cb@wixer.bga.com) wrote: : renew@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Rene Walter) writes: : >over where it places its temp files: it just places them in its : >"current directory". : I have to beg to differ on this point, as the batch file I use : to launch cview cd's to the dir where cview resides and then : invokes it. every time I crash cview, the 0-byte temp file : is found in the root dir of the drive cview is on. I posted this as well before the cview "expert". Apparently, he thought he knew better. Matthew Zenkar mz@moscom.com
7019	From: darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Fred Rice) Subject: Re: Ancient islamic rituals Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia. Lines: 21 In <16BA6C947.I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de> I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Benedikt Rosenau) writes: >In article <1993Apr3.081052.11292@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> >darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Fred Rice) writes: > >>There has been some discussion on the pros and cons about sex outside of >>marriage. >> >>I personally think that part of the value of having lasting partnerships >>between men and women is that this helps to provide a stable and secure >>environment for children to grow up in. >(Deletion) > >As an addition to Chris Faehl's post, what about homosexuals? Well, from an Islamic viewpoint, homosexuality is not the norm for society. I cannot really say much about the Islamic viewpoint on homosexuality as it is not something I have done much research on. Fred Rice darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
7020	From: fierkelab@bchm.biochem.duke.edu (Eric Roush) Subject: Re: My '93 picks (with only one comment) Article-I.D.: news.12786 Organization: Biochemistry Lines: 50 Nntp-Posting-Host: bruchner.biochem.duke.edu In article <1psbg8INNgjj@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert) writes: >In article <jfr2.733938351@Ra.MsState.Edu> jfr2@Ra.MsState.Edu (Jackie F. >Russell) writes: >> psg+@pitt.edu (Paul S Galvanek) writes: > >> >National League West >> >> > Cincinnati ---- >> > Houston 5.0 >> > Atlanta 8.0 >> ARGH! Here is where you are obviously dead wrong. Not since the Yankees of >> the 20's and 30's has a team been so nicely setup as this years(and years >> to come) Braves. I don't think that the All-Star team will be able to beat > >This may be an appropriate comparison. >The 1929-31 Yankees finshed 2nd, 3rd and 2nd finshing >18, 16 and 13-1/2 games out of first. >In 1933,'34 and '35 they also finished second ( though they were only >7, 7 and 3 games out). >Even great teams can lose - That's why they play the season. >(on the other hand... I'm still picking the Braves to go all the way) > Um, surely you didn't intend to compare the '93 Reds with the 29 Philidelphia A's. The Yankees were finishing 2nd to a team that was as good as the 26-28 Yankees, while the Yankees had aged some from their peak years. Ruth and Gehrig couldn't play every position simultaneously. IMO, given the various ages of the Braves and Reds this season, that the Braves will be closer to their peak, while the Reds have slightly passed their peak. Also, if you're going to compare Braves and Yankees, a more appropriate comparison to the '93 Braves might be the '23 Yankees. After falling short two years in a row in exciting World Series, both teams won/will win the Series this year, despite the heroics of some old fart on the other team. (Casey Stengel/ Dave Winfield???) ------------------------------------------------------- Eric Roush fierkelab@ bchm.biochem.duke.edu "I am a Marxist, of the Groucho sort" Grafitti, Paris, 1968 TANSTAAFL! (although the Internet comes close.) --------------------------------------------------------
7021	From: mchaffee@dcl-nxt07 (Michael T Chaffee) Subject: Re: Chryslers Compact LH Sedans? Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 33 cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (CarolinaFan@uiuc) writes: >shoppa@almach.caltech.edu (TIM SHOPPA) writes: >>I thought that the V-10 was originally designed for a truck (not necessarily >>a pickup!) and then just sort of dropped into the Viper's frame because >>it fit and was available. A friend of mine and I saw (and heard) a Viper, >>and my friend's first response was that it sounded like a truck! It sounded >>fine to me, but then again, I don't like the whiny noise that most modern >>sports car engines make. BTW, the Viper we saw was moving at about 10mph, >>just like all of the other cars on the 10 freeway heading east out of LA >>on a Friday afternoon. Looked really nice, though. > Actually, I was under the impression that the V-10 in the Viper was >NOT the V-10 that Dodge was developing for its new Kenworths. I have always >thought it was the exhaust system and not the engine that produced the noise >of a car...? Well, yes, the exhaust is where the majority of the noise comes out, but the basics (tone, firing cadence, etc.) are determined by the engine configuration. In the case of the Viper, yes, we are discussing a HUGE multicylinder 90-deg. engine, which will sound somewhat like a truck. And my understanding, btw, is that that V-10 engine was designed originally with the intention of being ad- aptible for either the trucks or the Viper. And from what I've heard (no first hand knowledge :-( ) it's doing a pretty good job at both. And the best exhaust sound in the world is now and will always be a 60-degree DOHC Colombo-designed V-12. Period. Michael T. Chaffee mchaffee@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu <----Email mchaffee@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu <----NeXTMail .sig under construction. <----Excuse
7022	From: rnichols@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (robert.k.nichols) Subject: Re: how to search for bad memory chips. Organization: AT&T Distribution: na Lines: 29 In article <N5s42B8w165w@c-cat.UUCP> david@c-cat.UUCP (Dave) writes: >i came upon this idea i would like to share with everyone. > >to check for bad memory chips > >1. create a boot disk with emm386 himem.sys and ramdrive.sys in the > config/autoexec.bat. > >2. boot the PC to create a RAM drive as large as possible. > >3. use a disk repair utility ( I use NDD ). Run it on the RAM > drive, yes it will run, its only a device driver > >4. run 1000 or so passes, they go very quick > >5. if your machine fails, there is a definate bad memory chip > >6. if your machine passes, there is a conflict with programs you > are loading in memory. ... It's an interesting idea, but the worst-case data patterns developed to test magnetic media are totally different than the patterns used to detect common faults in memory chips. -- Bob Nichols AT&T Bell Laboratories rnichols@ihlpm.ih.att.com
7023	From: ak296@yfn.ysu.edu (John R. Daker) Subject: Re: V-max handling request Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH Lines: 14 Reply-To: ak296@yfn.ysu.edu (John R. Daker) NNTP-Posting-Host: yfn.ysu.edu In a previous article, ba7116326@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg () says: >hello there >ican anyone who has handson experience on riding the Yamaha v-max, pls kindly >comment on its handling . You're kidding, right? This is Flame bait in the extreme. V-max handling? Har har har har.... -- DoD #650<----------------------------------------------------------->DarkMan The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. - Albert Einstein ___________________The Eternal Champion_________________
7024	From: junaid@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr A. Walker) Subject: 2 Sound Blasters in 1 machine Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia. Lines: 10 Is it possible to have 2 Sound Blasters in 1 machine? Would give your the equivalent of a SB Pro but with stereo Digitized sound. The way Creative Labs price Pro's in Oz, the price is equal. I suppose you could set the I/O addresses to 220 and 240H but what about the DMA channels? Any way what is this DMA channel sharing hype? Does it share the SB and hardisk DMA channels or something more esoteric?
7025	From: romdas@uclink.berkeley.edu (Ella I Baff) Subject: Re: Good Grief! (was Re: Candida Albicans: what is it?) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 9 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: uclink.berkeley.edu >If anybody, doctors included, said to me to my face that there is no >evidence of the 'yeast connection', I cannot guarantee their safety. >For their incompetence, ripping off their lips is justified as far as >I am concerned. This doesn't sound like Candida Albicans to me. John Badanes, DC, CA romdas@uclink.berkeley.edu
7026	From: jonesk@ur.msstate.edu Subject: re: Mo Sanford Article-I.D.: ra.1993Apr6.173224.13148 Reply-To: jonesk@ur.msstate.edu Organization: Mississippi State University Lines: 6 Nntp-Posting-Host: ur117.ur.msstate.edu In article <1993Apr3.045040.10480@ra.msstate.edu> js1@jazz.cc.msstate.edu (Jiann-ming Su) writes: >Does any know if Mo Sanford, Rockies pitcher, got cut? He use to be with the` >Reds, but was drafted in the expansion draft. > I believe he was sent down to AAA.
7027	From: ben@dbsm.oz.au (Benjamin Stephen Kelley) Subject: Problems with color Xterm Reply-To: ben@thor (Benjamin Stephen Kelley) Organization: SBC Dominguez Barry Ltd Lines: 19 We have recently obtained a copy of color_xterm (from export.lcs.mit.edu) after seeing it mentioned in a previous article. On compilation, it reports the following undefined symbols: _get_wmShellWidgetClass _get_applicationShellWidgetClass but still runs. When sending escape sequences to set the colour, any colour comes out as black text on a black background. Any Ideas? Has anyone used this program in colour successfully? Can anyone point me to any other colour terminal emulators? We are running OpenWindows 3 on Sun Sparcs running SunOS 4.1.3. advaTHANKSnce Ben Kelley. ben@thor.dbsm.oz.au
7028	From: shapiro@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Brian Shapiro) Subject: For Sale: Zenith 386-25 Motherboard Distribution: usa Organization: Ohio University C.S. Dept, Athens Lines: 30 The following is posted for a friend. Send replies to the address at the end of the post please. Attention Zenith Z-248 owners!!! upgrade your 8 MHz AT-class machine to '386 performance with a genuine Zenith motherboard for a clone price! Motherboard and I/O card pop right in to your Z-248 case while keeping your existing video and disk controllers. Zenith Z-386/25 motherboard featuring 16kb of 16-layer, posted-write cache using 15 ns SRAM; 8 Mb of 70 ns DRAM included, accepts 20 Mb on motherboard (further RAM upgrades available via SuperSlots running at memory bus speeds; 7 Expansion slots feature 4 Zenith 32-bit SuperSlots: autodetects 8/16/32-bit adapters; latest rev. of Z-300 setup/monitor ROMs, two serial ports, one parallel port, secondary fan for improved system cooling, Z-386 User's Guide, Z-386 Maintenance Guide and diagnostics disk included. $575 (includes S/H/insurance). Replies to: stann@aol.com Replies to me will be forwarded. Thanks..... brian -- Brian Shapiro, Systems Support Specialist Ohio University, Athens, Ohio 45701 (614) 593-1608 shapiro@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu or SHAPIROB@OUACCVMA.BITNET
7029	From: philly@ravel.udel.edu (Robert C Hite) Subject: Re: DAVE KINGMAN FOR THE HALL OF FAME Nntp-Posting-Host: ravel.udel.edu Organization: University of Delaware Lines: 39 In article <1993Apr15.093231.5148@news.yale.edu> (Steve Tomassi) writes: >Honestly, Ozzie Smith and Robin Yount don't belong there. They're both > >shortstops that just hung around for a long time. Big deal. Are you for real? How many Gold Gloves does Ozzie Smith have? If a guy hung around and hit 30 homers a year for 15 years, wouldn't he be a given for the Hall? Is defense not just as important? And if Robin Yount couldn't hit, why would he have stuck around long enough to get 3,000 hits? Are you saying 3,000 hits is a fluke? 3,000 hits is no big deal? > Let's be a little more selective, huh? Stop handing out these honors >so > >liberally. Save them for the guys who really deserve it. Face it, if >something > >isn't done, there will be little prestige in the Hall of Fame anymore. When > >certain individuals believe that Steve Garvey or Jack Morris are potential > >candidates, the absurdity is apparent. Gee, can these guys even compare to I agree, Garvey and Morris don't deserve it. >the more likely future Hall of Famers like Kirby Puckett or Nolan Ryan? Well, based on your argument, Nolan Ryan doesn't deserve the Hall of Fame. He is just a right hander who stuck around for a long time and could throw hard. Very few 20 game winning seasons, lots of losing seasons, lots of walks. No Cy Young awards. How does Nolan Ryan compare to a guy like Steve Carlton who dominated 5 or 6 Major League seasons, won 7 divisons, 2 World Series, and won half of his teams games in 1972? He doesn't compare. Not even close. Kirby Puckett hasn't done it long enough for me. Give me 5 more seasons like he's been having, then I'll think about it.
7030	From: jhawk@panix.com (John Hawkinson) Subject: Building a UV flashlight Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC Lines: 23 Yes, I know it sounds crazy. Call it an urge. Call it what you want. Just don't ask why :-) Anyway, I'd like to build a UV flashlight, cheaply. "flashlight" means it should be reasonably portable, but could have a power pack if necessary. My main question is the bulb: where can I get UV bulbs? Do they need a lot of power? etc., etc. I'm not too concerned with whether it's long-wave or short-wave (but hey, if anyone has a cheap source of bulbs, I'll take both). One other thing: a friend of mine mentioned something about near-UV light being cheaper to get at than actual UV light. Does anyone know what he was referring to? Thanks much. -- John Hawkinson jhawk@panix.com
7031	From: bprofane@netcom.com (Gert Niewahr) Subject: Re: Rumours about 3DO ??? Article-I.D.: netcom.bprofaneC51wHz.HIo Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Lines: 39 In article <C51Eyz.4Ix@optimla.aimla.com> lex@optimla.aimla.com (Lex van Sonderen) writes: >In article <h1p4s4g@zola.esd.sgi.com> erik@westworld.esd.sgi.com (Erik Fortune) writes: >>> better than CDI >>Much better than CDI. >Of course, I do not agree. It does have more horsepower. Horsepower is not >the only measurement for 'better'. It does not have full motion, full screen >video yet. Does it have CD-ROM XA? > >>> starting in the 4 quarter of 1993 >>The first 3DO "multiplayer" will be manufactured by panasonic and will be >>available late this year. A number of other manufacturers are reported to >>have 3DO compatible boxes in the works. >Which other manufacturers? >We shall see about the date. A 3DO marketing rep. recently offered a Phillips marketing rep. a $100 bet that 3DO would have boxes on the market on schedule. The Phillips rep. declined the bet, probably because he knew that 3DO players are already in pre-production manufacturing runs, 6 months before the commercial release date. By the time of commercial release, there will be other manufacturers of 3DO players announced and possibly already tooling up production. Chip sets will be in full production. The number of software companies designing titles for the box will be over 300. How do I know this? I was at a bar down the road from 3DO headquarters last week. Some folks were bullshitting a little too loudly about company business. >>All this information is third hand or so and worth what you paid for it:-). >This is second hand, but it still hard to look to the future ;-). > >Lex van Sonderen >lex@aimla.com >Philips Interactive Media ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What an impartial source!
7032	From: db7n+@andrew.cmu.edu (D. Andrew Byler) Subject: Deuterocanonicals, esp. Sirach Organization: Freshman, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 132 Dave Davis writes: > Let my state my point as provocatively as possible. :-) > After going through several study Bibles, I'm leaning heavily towards >the > assertion that _Sirach_ ('The Wisdom of Ben Sira' or 'Ecclesiasticus') > is directly referenced by _James_ - in fact, I think > Sirach is more directly referenced by James than _Job_ or _Ruth_ is > referenced in any NT verse I've seen. Good point. The New Testament does not quote Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther, Ruth, Job, Ecclesiastes, or Song of Songs, just as it does not quote from the Deuterocanon. But if the non-quotation of the former does not disqualify them, neither does the non-quotation of the later. And the Wisodm of Solomon was quite clearly an influence on St. Paul, especially in the letter to the Romans (cf especially Romans 1.18-32 and Wisdom 13-14). [stuff deleted] >I think everyone would agree that principles that cannot be >consistently applied are not very useful as principles. >So, if we are to exclude them (not accord them the authority of > Scripture) we would appear to require other reasons. What might these > reasons be? Tradition (always a fav. with Episcop.) ? Tradition is >equivocal > on this subject. Sirach, I believe, is in Vaticanus & Sinaiticus > I don't know if it is listed in the Muratorian canon > (the oldest list I know of). Sirach (and the others) are discussed > by the Fathers, as Scripture, but not unanimously. True. Not all accepted them as Scripture, though niether were all the books of the New Testament so accepted, which puts to the lie the whole argument of the books being excluded because they were debated and not universally accepted. Hebrews, the Apocalypse, 2 Peter, Esther, and others were debated at various times, but eventually retained. As for the Codexes you mention, both Vaticanus and Sinaitcus include the Deuterocanon, bothe of the New and Old Testaments, and Vaticanus (I think) inlcudes 1 Clement, the Shepard of Hermas, and the Epistle of Baranabas. As for the Muratorian Canon, it deals with the New Testament only, though it is very valuable in its witness to those books. > My interim conclusion is that Protestant exclusion of > (at least one of) these writings is one of those 'traditions > of men' one hears of so often. They were excluded during the > Reformation, and that appears to be the reason many people > continue to exclude them. >Any takers? I can be reasonable. (If all else fails :-) >Show me where I'm wrong. You're not wrong! It is a `tradition of men' to exlcude them, as I will explain below. "That nothing be read in the Church under the nmae of Divine Scripture, except the canonical Scriptures, and the canoncial Scriptures are - Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, Ruth, Four books of Kingdoms [being 1&2 Samuel and 1&2 Kings], Two books of Paralpomenon [being 1&2 Chronicles], Job, the Psalter of David, the Five books of Solomon [being Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs, Wisdom of Solomon, and [misatributed to him] the Wisdom of Jesus son of Sirach], The books of the Twelve (Minor) Prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah [being Jeremiah, the Lamentations, Baruch, and the Letter, all of which were formerly counted as one], Ezekiel, Daniel, Tobit, Judith, Esther, Two books of Ezra [being Ezra and Nehemiah], Two books of Maccabees. And of the New Testament: Four books of the Gospel, One book of the Acts of the Apostles, Thirteen letters of Paul the Apostle, One Letter of the same to the Hebrews, two of Peter the Apostle, Three of John, One of the Apostle Jude, One of the Apostle James, One book of the Apocalypse of John." -Council of Hippo, Statute 36, (393 AD) This same list was promulgated again at the Third Council of Carthage (397 AD), and at the Sixth Council of Carthage (419 AD) - at which council the same list was enumerated with the words "Because we have recieved from the Fathers that these are the books to be read in the Church." Which ought to quiet those who assert "in the name of Holy Scripture we do understand those books of whose authority there was never any doubt in the Church," as the Episcopal Church does in removing the Deuterocanon from the realm of Scripture. (Though the Episcopalians hold them in high regard and read them in the Church, they are not counted as Scripture by them, and may not be used to prove dogma. The Lutherans hold out similarly.) Earlier mention of the so-called Apocrypha as divine scripture can also be found, and below I inlcude only a portion of the quotes calling it divine scripture that could be found among the writings of the Fathers. "And this is the reason why the Law of the old Testament is reckoned as consisting of twenty-two books: so that they may correspond to the number of letters [in the Hebrew alphabet].... It is to be noted also that by adding to these Tobias and Judith, there are twenty-four books, corresponding to the number of letters used by the Greeks." -St. Hillary of Poitiers, "Commentaries on the Psalms," prologue, 15 (365 AD) "The twenty-two books according to the Hebrews are .... Jeremiah, with Lamentations and the Letter, reckoned as one .... and [also] there is Maccabees." -Origen, "Commentaries on the Psalms," Psalm 1 (245 AD) "Divine Scripture, addressing itself to those who love themselves and to the boastful .... says most excellently [Baruch 3.16-19 follows]." -St. Clement of Alexandria, "The Instuctor of Children," 2, 3, 36, 3, (203 AD) "....I learned accurately the books of the Old Testament ... Proverbs of Solomon, and also Wisdom ..." -St. Melito of Sardes, fragment found in Eusebius' "History of the Church," and dating from crica 177 AD, Book 4, 26, 14 "It is likewise decreed: Now, indeed, we must treat of the divine Scriptures: what the universal Catholic Church accepts and what she must shun. The list of the Old Testament .... Wisdom, one book; Ecclesiasticus, one book .... Tobit, one book .... Judith, one book; of Maccabees, two books." -St. Damasus I, Pope, "The Decree of Damsus," section 2 (382 AD) I would think this enough, though more can be shown, that the Church has always accepted the deutero-canon, though parts have been disputed by various persons. For if disputes involving the New Testament deutero-canon does not disqulaify those books (i.e. Hebrews, James, 2 Peter, 2&3 John, Jude, Revelation) in Protestant eyes, than neither should it disqulaify the Old Testament books. And I must point out that the Jews only drew up their canon in 90 AD, 60 years after the founding of the Christian Religion upon the Cross. Why should we adhere to a canon that was drawn up by the faithless, in reaction to the Chrsitian use of the Greek Septuagint, which includes the deutero-canon? As early as 150 AD, St. Justin had already accused the Jews of mutilating the Canon of Scripture by their removal of certain books. Protestants apparently prefer to think that God's revelation was limited by a decree of the Jews in the ordering of their (the Jews') faithless canon, and that he could not use other people, like the Apostles, in drawing up the canon. The Apostles were most certain users of the Septuagint, as some 80% of the Old Testament quotes use the wording of the Septuagint, and not the Hebrew. And the Septuagint includes the Deuterocanon.
7033	From: kirsch@staff.tc.umn.edu (Dave 'Almost Cursed the Jays' Kirsch) Subject: Re: Young Catchers Nntp-Posting-Host: staff.tc.umn.edu Organization: Li'l Carlos and the Hormones Lines: 60 In article <mssC50DFw.71u@netcom.com> mss@netcom.com (Mark Singer) writes: > >At age 23 Alomar had a brilliant rookie year. True, he was limited >by injuries in his sophomore season, but his numbers both that yaer >and the year following were quite mediocre. This season the same >Bill James projects a ba of .265, OPS of 675. The same Bill James? Why do you say that? It sounds like you're suggesting Bill James had something to do with overhyping the kid to death. Au contraire; he was fairly critical of him after his ROY campaign, noting that he wasn't all-world as a catcher or a hitter. He called him basically average when everyone else in the media was predicting the next Johnny Bench or Roy Campanella. >Both of these young men were highly touted defensive catchers, >expected to be among the best ever in baseball. The reports I >read indicate that Lopez is very ordinary defensively. Which reports are those? >The Dodgers options are Parrish and Hernandez, and now only Carlos. >Piazza is 24. As long as he continues with his very hot bat, >they will keep him in the lineup because they need the offensive >production. When he cools off, look for the much better defensive >catcher Hernandez (only 25) to play more. I like Hernandez a lot, but if Piazza can catch the ball, you've gotta play him IMHO. He's a much better hitter, although Hernandez isn't a bad hitter. Right now, it sounds like Piazza will catch most of the time and Hernandez will be Candiotti's caddy since he can catch the knuckler. As long as they play up to their abilities, the Dodgers could have a very good catching tandem. >The Braves options are Berryhill and Olson. I agree that Olson is >nothing special, but I do think Berryhill is better than many >people on rsb believe. But both the Braves' catchers are very >good defensively (calling a game, blocking the plate, throwing) >and although they are somewhat weak offenivsively, they play on a team >that is not so much in need of another big bat. I think both are overrated defensively (see Nichols' Law of catcher defense), but that's something that's difficult to prove or disprove from your viewpoint or mine. About the only tangible thing we can look at is opponent's SB%, and that's clouded by how well your pitchers hold runners. Catchers ERA is a possibility, but it's subject to way too many biases. As for them 'playing on a team that is not so much in need of another big bat', I disagree here too. About the only chink in the Braves' armor is that they're weak offensively at several positions (CF, C, 2B, SS if Belliard plays, 1B unless Bream and Hunter form another super-platoon) and very weak defensively if Blauser plays. I'd like to see the Braves give at least one of Mel Nieves, Javy Lopez or Chipper Jones a shot, but much like the talent-rich Jays of recent years they'll be conservative and stick with what they have. I'm not saying that's wrong, just conservative. -- Dave Hung Like a Jim Acker Slider Kirsch Blue Jays - Do it again in '93 kirsch@staff.tc.umn.edu New .. quotes out of context! "Not to beat a dead horse, but it's been a couple o' weeks .. this disappoints me..punishments..discharges..jackhammering.." - Stephen Lawrence
7034	From: epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp) Subject: Re: LA ON ABC IN CANADA Organization: Malaspina College Lines: 27 In article <boora.735182771@sfu.ca>, boora@kits.sfu.ca (The GodFather) writes: > Was the ABC coverage of the Kings/Flames game supposed to be the > way it was shown in BC with CBC overriding the ABC coverage? When I flipped > to ABC, it was the same commentators, same commercials even. My question > is: Was this the real ABC coverage or did CBC just "black out" the > ABC coverage for its own? > > Here in Nanaimo (on Vancouver Island, for you furriners out there) we got the ABC coverage on KOMO. It probably depends on your cable company. I started off switching between the CBC and ABC broadcasts, but finally settled on ABC. I can't stand Don Whitman, and Al Michaels was doing a decent job. He followed the play pretty well, knew all the players' names, and only made a couple of "rookie" mistakes that I noticed. One thing that surprised me is that they never once attempted to explain the offside rule. Am-I-paranoid-or-is-this-really-happening department: There were no fights in the game, but there were a couple of occasions where it looked like a fight was about to start. Both times ABC cut away to show a closeup of a coach or McNall or something. Has ABC decided to adopt the "Spicer policy?" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Lorne Epp epp@mala.bc.ca
7035	From: silver@fraser.sfu.ca (Craig Silver) Subject: format a:/s under Win. & DOS6 ?? Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada Distribution: na Lines: 13 Has anyone experienced problems formatting a system floppy in the File Manager under DOS 6? I get a formatted disk but when I boot with it, my hard drive isn't recognized. I did install DoubleSpace. Also, I was able to make a good-working system floppy from the DOS 6 command shell (no Windows). Let me know if you've had this problem too and if you've heard what's going on. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Craig Silver Computer Science at Simon Fraser University silver@sfu.ca (Internet) Burnaby, B.C., Canada
7036	From: jodfishe@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (joseph dale fisher) Subject: Re: Salvation by deeds Organization: Indiana University Lines: 3 Another guess to your salvation riddle would be "saved". Joe Fisher
7037	From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) Subject: Re: Public-domain circuits in commercial applications Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 16 In article <C5GE03.LIF@athena.cs.uga.edu> mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) writes: >... Patent law says you can build anything >you want to, for your own personal noncommercial use... I'm not up on the details of US patent law, but I think this is incorrect. There is a "reasonable use" exemption for copyright. There is none for patents. The exemptions from patent licensing are quite narrow; R&D work is exempt but personal use is not. That is, it's okay to experiment with a patented idea, but not to put it to practical use (e.g. to improve your stereo), even if it's only your own private practical use. Of course, it is unlikely that discreet personal use will ever be detected or that you will ever be sued over it. -- All work is one man's work. \| Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology - Kipling \| henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
7038	From: jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu Subject: Re: Ban All Firearms ! Lines: 40 In article <1993Apr14.183025.29688@sco.com>, allanh@sco.COM (Allan J. Heim) writes: > > papresco@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod): > > >Drugs are banned, please tell me when this supply will dry up? > > Drugs are easier to manufacture, easier to smuggle, easier to hide. > No comparison. > > Then let's use another example--alcoholic beverages. Bottles of whiskey > are larger, heavier, and more fragile than bags of drugs. Barrels and > kegs are larger and heavier still, and are difficult to manipulate. > Yet, a lot of people managed to get very rich off of the smuggling of > booze into this country during the years of Prohibition. There was a > demand, so an entire industry formed to supply it. If alcohol were again banned today, it would be MUCH more difficult to manage a large-scale smuggling operation. The cops now rank just a narrow notch below the military in communications, intelligence gathering and firepower. In a similar vein, the amount of marijuana smuggled into this country has greatly decreased. This is because its value-per-pound is very low when compared to cocaine or heroin. It's simply not worth the risk, it's uneconomical. Now, most reefer is domestic. There is less pressure on the domestic producer (showy raids notwithstanding) and thus it is economical. Of note though ... domestic reefer is now very strong, so a small volume goes a long way. You cannot make alcohol stronger than 200 proof - not a good dollar/pound deal. Firearms tend to fall into this low dollar/pound area. It would not be economic to smuggle them in. All production would have to be local. There are not all that many people who have both the skill AND motivation to assemble worthwhile firearms from scratch. High-ranking crime figures could obtain imported Uzis and such, but the average person, and average thug, would be lucky to get a zip-gun - and would pay through the nose for it.
7039	From: nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu Subject: Eco-Freaks forcing Space Mining. Article-I.D.: aurora.1993Apr21.212202.1 Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks Lines: 24 Nntp-Posting-Host: acad3.alaska.edu Here is a way to get the commericial companies into space and mineral exploration. Basically get the eci-freaks to make it so hard to get the minerals on earth.. You think this is crazy. Well in a way it is, but in a way it is reality. There is a billin the congress to do just that.. Basically to make it so expensive to mine minerals in the US, unless you can by off the inspectors or tax collectors.. ascially what I understand from talking to a few miner friends of mine, that they (the congress) propose to have a tax on the gross income of the mine, versus the adjusted income, also the state governments have there normal taxes. So by the time you get done, paying for materials, workers, and other expenses you can owe more than what you made. BAsically if you make a 1000.00 and spend 500. ofor expenses, you can owe 600.00 in federal taxes.. Bascially it is driving the miners off the land.. And the only peopel who benefit are the eco-freaks.. Basically to get back to my beginning statement, is space is the way to go cause it might just get to expensive to mine on earth because of either the eco-freaks or the protectionist.. Such fun we have in these interesting times.. == Michael Adams, nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu -- I'm not high, just jacked
7040	From: beck@irzr17.inf.tu-dresden.de (Andre Beck) Subject: Re: System file in /tmp Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, TU Dresden, Germany. Lines: 17 Distribution: world Reply-To: Andre_Beck@IRS.Inf.TU-Dresden.DE NNTP-Posting-Host: irzr17.inf.tu-dresden.de In article <C5JJIG.Doy@acsu.buffalo.edu>, lusardi@cs.buffalo.edu (Christopher Lusardi) writes: \|> \|> What is the directory .X11-unix for in /tmp? When I start \|> x, it is created by the system. This directory wasn't created \|> by root, and it contains an empty file (X0) that is owned by me. \|> It's the Unix Domain Socket (local connection) to your XServer. Try to rm it :) -- +-o-+--------------------------------------------------------------+-o-+ \| o \| \\\- Brain Inside -/// \| o \| \| o \| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ \| o \| \| o \| Andre' Beck (ABPSoft) mehl: Andre_Beck@IRS.Inf.TU-Dresden.de \| o \| +-o-+--------------------------------------------------------------+-o-+
7041	From: wcs@anchor.ho.att.com (Bill Stewart +1-908-949-0705) Subject: White House Wiretap Chip Disinformation Sheet Organization: Ministry of Truth In-Reply-To: clipper@csrc.ncsl.nist.gov's message of Fri, 16 Apr 1993 20:44:58 GMT Keywords: Big Bubba Is Watching. Nntp-Posting-Host: rainier.ho.att.com Lines: 58 Fascinating. Most of the content of the White House announcements was in what was not said. It gives us almost nothing of value, threatens to take away a lot, and does it with a sincere smile on its face, and the nice friendly word "Management". FACT SHEET PUBLIC ENCRYPTION MANAGEMENT The first thing it doesn't say is "We're giving you stronger encryption". what it says is the U. S. Government has developed a microcircuit that not only provides privacy through encryption that is substantially more robust than the current government standard, but also permits escrowing of the keys needed to unlock the encryption. The system for the escrowing of keys will allow the government to gain access to encrypted information only with appropriate legal authorization. But DES is strong enough that only the government can break it now, so the major effect is to make it EASIER for government to break! At best it makes it more difficult for the NSA to break, since they need to get one of the two escrowed keys to do a brute-force search for the other 40-bit key. Similarly, it didn't say "We're making encryption is commercially available." because encryption is already commercially available, including forms the NSA may not be able to break, like triple-DES or IDEA. And phone companies could offer DES-based systems now if they were convinced the government would let them and they could make enough money. The next thing it didn't say is "We're making encryption legal", because of course encryption has always been legal, and the President can't change the First Amendment merely by decree. What it did say was: In making this decision, I do not intend to prevent the private sector from developing, or the government from approving, other microcircuits or algorithms that are equally effective in assuring both privacy and a secure key- escrow system. which clearly means "We're making encryption illegal unless we get your keys. Soon. Once business buys into this." Another thing it didn't say is "We're going to ask Congress for money to do lots more wiretapping", because of course, there's a budget crisis, and Congress might debate the policy issues or not give them the cash. What it did say was: The Attorney General will procure and utilize encryption devices to the extent needed to preserve the government's ability to conduct lawful electronic surveillance and to fulfill the need for secure law enforcement communications. Further, the Attorney General shall utilize funds from the Department of Justice Asset Forfeiture Super Surplus Fund to effect this purchase. which means "We've got money Congress can't control and we're going to buy lots of wiretapping equipment with it to detect NON-APPROVED CRYPTO (that's what "preserve the government's ability to conduct ... surveillance" means.) -- # Pray for peace; Bill # Bill Stewart 1-908-949-0705 wcs@anchor.att.com AT&T Bell Labs 4M312 Holmdel NJ # No, I'm from New Jersey, I only work in cyberspace.... # White House Commect Line 1-202-456-1111 fax 1-202-456-2461
7042	From: npet@bnr.ca (Nick Pettefar) Subject: Re: Rejetting carbs.. Nntp-Posting-Host: bmdhh299 Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Distribution: na Lines: 53 Mark Kromer, on the Thu, 15 Apr 1993 00:42:46 GMT wibbled: : In an article rtaraz@bigwpi (Ramin Taraz) wrote: : >Does the "amount of exhaust allowed to leave the engine through the : >exhaust pipe" make that much of a difference? the amount of air/fuel : >mixture that a cylender sucks in (tries to suck in) depends on the : >speed of the piston when it goes down. : ...and the pressure in the cylinder at the end of the exhaust stroke. : With a poor exhaust system, this pressure may be above atmospheric. : With a pipe that scavenges well this may be substantially below : atmospheric. This effect will vary with rpm depending on the tune of : the pipe; some pipes combined with large valve overlap can actually : reverse the intake flow and blow mixture out of the carb when outside : the pipes effective rev range. : >Now, my question is which one provides more resistence as far as the : >engine is conserned: : >) resistance that the exhaust provides : >) or the resistance that results from the bike trying to push itself and : > the rider : Two completely different things. The state of the pipe determines how : much power the motor can make. The load of the bike determines how : much power the motor needs to make. : -- : - )V(ark)< FZR400 Pilot / ZX900 Payload / RD400 Mechanic : You're welcome. Well I, for one, am so very glad that I have fuel injection! All those needles and orifices and venturi and pressures... It's worse than school human biology reproduction lessons (sex). Always made me feel a bit queasy. -- Nick (the Simple Minded Biker) DoD 1069 Concise Oxford Tube Rider M'Lud. ___ ___ ___ ___ {"_"} {"_"} {"_"} {"_"} Nick Pettefar, Contractor@Large. ' ` ` ' ' ` ` ' Currently incarcerated at BNR, ___ ___ ___ ___ Maidenhead, The United Kingdom. \|"_"\| \|"_"\| \|"_"\| \|"_"\| npet@bnr.ca '86 BMW K100RS "Kay" ` ' ' ` ` ' ' ` Pres. PBWASOH(UK), BS 0002 . _ _ _ __ . / ~ ~~\ \| / ~~ \ \|_______\| [_______\| _:_ \|___\|
7043	From: kutuzova@venus.iteb.serpukhov.su Subject: THE RESEACHING OF STARVATION. Organization: Institute of Theoretical and Experimental Biophysics Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: venus.iteb.serpukhov.su I am very interested in investigations of starvation for improving health. I am the young Russian reseacher and have highest medical education and expierence in reseach work in biological field and would like to work on this problem. Can anybody send me the adresses of the hospitals or Medical Centers where scientific problems of human starvation for the health are investigated? Also I would like to set scientific contacts with colleagues who deals with investigations in this field. I would be very appreciated anyone reply me. Pls, contact by post: 142292, Russia, Moscow Region, Puschino, P.O. box 46, for Kravchenko N. ; or by e-mail: kutuzova@venus.iteb.serpukhov.su Thank you advance, Natalja Kravchenko.
7044	From: psyrobtw@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Robert Weiss) Subject: Re: Disillusioned Protestant Finds Christ Organization: University at Buffalo Lines: 26 News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Nntp-Posting-Host: ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu In article <1qmhp7$33t@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cj195@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John W. Redelfs) writes... > >In a previous article, tom@tredysvr.Tredydev.Unisys.COM (Tom Albrecht) says: > >>In article <1qb726$j9d@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu< cj195@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John W. Redelfs) writes: >>< >><I learned that God loves his children who have never heard of him and has a >><plan for redeeming them too, even those who have died without a knowledge >><of Christ. I learned that a man cannot frustrate justice by repenting on >><his death bed because repentance is more than a feeling of remorse. It >><requires faith in Christ proven by following him, by keeping his >><commandments. Such cannot be accomplished on ones deathbed. >> >>So Jesus must have lied to the thief on the cross. > >Paradise and salvation are not the same thing. Salvation is better. Refer >to John 14:2. I don't see the effort to equate salvation with paradise. Rather, I see implied the fact that only those who are saved may enter paradise. ============================= Robert Weiss psyrobtw@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
7045	From: tkevans@eplrx7.es.duPont.com (Tim Evans) Subject: Re: Royals Reply-To: tkevans@eplrx7.es.dupont.com Organization: DuPont Engineering Physics Laboratory X-Newsreader: NN version 6.4.19 Lines: 17 randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) writes: >The Royals are darkness. They are the void of our time. >When they play, shame descends upon the land like a cold front >from Canada. They are a humiliation to all who have lived and >all who shall ever live. They are utterly and completely >doomed. >Other than that, I guess they're OK. You must not be old enough to remember the A's in KC! -- Tim Evans \| E.I. du Pont de Nemours & Co. tkevans@eplrx7.es.dupont.com \| Experimental Station (302) 695-9353/7395 \| P.O. Box 80357 EVANSTK AT A1 AT ESVAX \| Wilmington, Delaware 19880-0357
7046	From: db7n+@andrew.cmu.edu (D. Andrew Byler) Subject: Re: Atheists and Hell Organization: Freshman, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 16 Mark Schnitzius writes: >> Literal interpreters of the Bible will have a problem with this view, since >>the Bible talks about the fires of Hell and such. > >This is something I've always found confusing. If all your nerve endings >die with your physical body, why would flame hurt you? How can one "wail >and gnash teeth" with no lungs and no teeth? One can feel physical pain by having a body, which, if you know the doctrine of the resurrection of the body, is what people will have after the great judgement. "We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come." - Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed. You will have both body and soul in hell - eventually. Andy Byler
7047	From: deane@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (David Matthew Deane) Subject: Re: PUBLIC HEARINGS on Ballot Access, Vote Fraud and Other Issues Reply-To: deane@binah.cc.brandeis.edu Organization: Brandeis University Lines: 11 Hmmm...intersting (and long) message, but TWICE? Well, I don't care for libertarianism, but that is a philisophical disagreement, not a tactical one. Reform of existing laws would be an awfully good idea. You wouldn't believe some of the outrageous things the guardians of our two party system do to shut out dissent. ============================================================================ David Matthew Deane (deane@binah.cc.brandeis.edu) When the words fold open, it means the death of doors; even casement windows sense the danger. (Amon Liner)
7048	From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Not a Boomer) Subject: Clinton caves in: reduces jobs bill Organization: ACME Products Lines: 11 Clinton has backed off from the $16 billion jobs bill. Word is he's paring it down to the core: jobless benefits, money for creating full time jobs (ie, no summer jobs money). Chalk one up for holding the line on spending. Brett ________________________________________________________________________________ "There's nothing so passionate as a vested interest disguised as an intellectual conviction." Sean O'Casey in _The White Plague_ by Frank Herbert.
7049	From: cs89ssg@brunel.ac.uk (Sunil Gupta) Subject: Re: RTrace 8.2.0 Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK Lines: 12 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Comp. Graphics/CAD (cgcad@bart.inescn.pt) wrote: : There is a new version of the RTrace ray-tracing package (8.2.0) at : asterix.inescn.pt [192.35.246.17] in directory pub/RTrace. : Check the README file. cant seem to reach the site from over here: >#ping 192.35.246.17 >ICMP Net Unreachable from gateway nsn-FIX-pe.sura.net (192.80.214.253) >for icmp from ccws-24.brunel.ac.uk (134.83.176.30) to 192.35.246.17 Is it possible for you to upload to a more mainstream ftp place?
7050	From: rcanders@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mr. Nice Guy) Subject: Will CS burn or explode X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. Lines: 13 The FBI released large amounts of CS tear gas into the compound in Waco. CS tear gas is a fine power. Is CS inflammable. Grain dust suspended in air can form an explosive mixture, will CS suspended in air form an explosive mix? Could large quantities of CS have fueled the rapid spread of fire in the compound? Please note I am directing all followups to talk.politics.guns -- Rod Anderson N0NZO \| The only acceptable substitute Boulder, CO \| for brains is silence. rcanders@nyx.cs.du.edu \| -Solomon Short- satellite N0NZO on ao-16 \|
7051	From: prb@access.digex.com (Pat) Subject: Re: End of the Space Age? Organization: Express Access Online Communications USA Lines: 30 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net Oddly, enough, The smithsonian calls the lindbergh years the golden age of flight. I would call it the granite years, reflecting the primitive nature of it. It was romantic, swashbuckling daredevils, "those daring young men in their flying machines". But in reality, it sucked. Death was a highly likely occurence, and the environment blew. Ever see the early navy pressure suits, they were modified diving suits. You were ready to star in "plan 9 from outer space". Radios and Nav AIds were a joke, and engines ran on castor oil. They picked and called aviators "men with iron stomachs", and it wasn't due to vertigo. Oddly enough, now we are in the golden age of flight. I can hop the shuttle to NY for $90 bucks, now that's golden. Mercury gemini, and apollo were romantic, but let's be honest. Peeing in bags, having plastic bags glued to your butt everytime you needed a bowel movement. Living for days inside a VW Bug. Romantic, but not commercial. The DC-X points out a most likely new golden age. An age where fat cigar smoking business men in loud polyester space suits will fill the skys with strip malls and used space ship lots. hhhmmmmm, maybe i'll retract that golden age bit. Maybe it was better in the old days. Of course, then we'll have wally schirra telling his great grand children, "In my day, we walked on the moon. Every day. Miles. no buses. you kids got it soft". pat
7052	From: gt1706a@prism.gatech.EDU (Maureen L. Eagle) Subject: WANTED Brother P-Touch Article-I.D.: hydra.91500 Distribution: usa Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Lines: 12 As it says, I'm interested in buying one of the little label-makers, and I can't afford a new one. Anybody tired of theirs? E-mail Maureen gt1706a@prism.gatech.edu -- Maureen L. Eagle Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt1706a Internet: gt1706a@prism.gatech.edu
7053	From: paul@charon.gsfc.nasa.gov (Paul Olson) Subject: Re: White House Public Encryption Management Fact Sheet News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Organization: Mission Operations and Data Systems Distribution: na Lines: 44 In article <1qnav4$r3l@transfer.stratus.com>, cme@ellisun.sw.stratus.com (Carl Ellison) writes... >In article <C5LGAz.250@dove.nist.gov> clipper@csrc.ncsl.nist.gov (Clipper Chip Announcement) writes: > >>Further, the Attorney General >>shall utilize funds from the Department of Justice Asset Forfeiture >>Super Surplus Fund to effect this purchase. > >Talk about adding insult to injury ... > >I, for one, believe that the use of civil forfeiture should be abolished by >a decent administration, not continued. Instead, it looks like that >ill-gotten gain will be used to help pay for wiretap equipment. I wholeheartedly agree. Knowing that WE have let our law enforcement agencies seize our property against the Fifth Amendment of OUR Constitution tells me that we are absolving ourselves of our responsibility for SELF-GOVERNANCE. WE have to take our government back from the self-serving politicians who create laws and rules only to better their positions within the government. WE have allowed them to take too much power from the people of this nation. That situation has to be changed. Allowing the law enforcement agencies to use the seized property to pay-off drug informants who lie and continue to deal in drugs is tantamount to making a pact with the Devil himself. It's a vicious cycle. The law enforcement agencies are motivated to seize property to fund their own activities. And having no easy way for the citizen to regain the property intact once taken gives even more incentive for the agencies to take property. It's also interesting to note that two months ago Rush Limbaugh said that Clinton would have the "plumbers" out in force shortly. Clinton and his henchmen firmly believe in strong ubiquitous government control. Anytime a leader believes in that, the leader will use every means possible to retain that control and take more. WE have to take OUR government back. Otherwise we will end up living in the equivalent of a high-tech third world dictatorship. We have to take responsibility for ourselves, our personal welfare, and our actions. __ Paul J. Olson - VAX Systems Manager & Resident Amiga Addict C= /// Voice - 301/286-4246, 301/210-7701 __ /// DECnet- CHARON::PAUL \\\/// Internet - paul@charon.gsfc.nasa.gov \XX/ Disclaimer: Statements in my messages are wholely my own. AMIGA "Ignorance is a renewable resource." -- P.J. O'Rourke
7054	From: bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Robert Beauchaine) Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or. Lines: 18 In article <C5Jxru.2t8@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Mike Cobb) writes: >What do you base your belief on atheism on? Your knowledge and reasoning? >COuldn't that be wrong? > Actually, my atheism is based on ignorance. Ignorance of the existence of any god. Don't fall into the "atheists don't believe because of their pride" mistake. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Bob Beauchaine bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM They said that Queens could stay, they blew the Bronx away, and sank Manhattan out at sea. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
7055	From: al@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Alan Peterman) Subject: Photo "Stuff" Forsale Article-I.D.: qiclab.1993Apr21.023937.8223 Distribution: usa Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon. Lines: 62 Time to clear out some miscellaneous lenses, cameras and photo stuff that's not being used. Some are gems, some are mundane. Minolta AF 50/1.7 lens for Maxxum cameras. New lens, but I guess it'd be best to call it a "demo" since I did not get the literature, box or warranty cards. $30. Vivitar 2X converter for Nikon F or AI lenses. Pretty cute "flip back" tang so it will work with all manual focus Nikon lenses - and bodies. It will even couple (and double) a non-AI lens to an AI body. $15. Pentax 50/1.4 screwmount lens. Well actually it's a Super-Takumar which is what they all were back then. Very mint condition. $25. Nice hard case for this lens $5 more.. Alpex 135/2.8 lens. Beautifully made, all metal construction with fine optics. Minolta mount. $25. Another hard case that fits this with strap can be added..call it $7 more. Vivitar 283 flash. The one that made Vivitar famous (until the 285 eclipsed it). Tilt head, removable sensor, variable auto exposure. $30. Universal "Roamer 63" folding old "bellows" camera with leather case. Uses 120 or 620 film, 100mm F6.3 lens. Kinda cool articulated shutter release. Decent shape. $20. Weston 540 lightmeter. Nothin super fancy, but it works well, and is a good cross check to built in meters. $7 with case and strap. And finally..the "gems" Pentax Auto 110 camera with 24mm F2.8 lens. This is the little (and I do mean TINY) SLR that Pentax made. Has interchangeable lenses, but try and find the 20-40 zoom, true through the lens viewing with split image focus, and completely auto exposure. $70. Olympus 35RC rangefinder camera. A really cute little camera with 42mm lens (F2.8) with built in manual or auto exposure, self timer etc. I think this was the predecessor to the XA - and it's nearly all metal. I won't mind holding onto this one if it doesn't sell. $60. Olympus OM-1 with flash shoe, leatherette case, 50/1.4 Zuiko lens, and Tokina SD (Super Dispersion) 70-210 lens. These are all in very nice to mint condition, except for one little ding on the OM body near the film advance lever. Lenses are perfect, and the Tokina is a very compact, and sharp lens. $225 for the set. That'll do to clean out some of the stuff. Feel free to offer on this stuff, although the cheaper stuff is priced to cover my hassle in shipping it.. For more details call or email. -- Alan L. Peterman (503)-684-1984 hm & work al@qiclab.scn.rain.com It's odd how as I get older, the days are longer, but the years are shorter!
7056	From: dlecoint@garnet.acns.fsu.edu (Darius_Lecointe) Subject: Re: Revelations Organization: Florida State University Lines: 11 hudson@athena.cs.uga.edu (Paul Hudson Jr) writes: > Biblical prophecy tends to be somewhat cyclical. For example, the virgin > prophecy of Isaiah also prophecied of Christ. How does this apply to the > book of Revelation in regard to the perterist view? Much of the OT prophecies have a double application: to the Jewish captivity, and to the end of time. But if Rev. is dated at AD96 its prophecies could not apply to the AD70 destructioin of Jerusalem. Darius
7057	From: srowe@fulcrum.co.uk (Simon Rowe) Subject: Re: exit codes (dos--sorry for wrong group : ( Organization: Fulcrum Communications Lines: 13 Internal DOS commands (certainly 3.3 and before) do not set the exit code. This is a royal pain if you want to do anything which checks for successful deletions etc. The best suggestion is to use 4dos which does return you exit codes. It also has move command, Simon. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Simon Rowe, srowe@fulcrum.co.uk Fulcrum Communications Ltd, Birmingham, Condition "BRAIN_OVERLOAD$" raised at ENGLAND. 5412(0)/12234 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
7058	From: jamull01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Joseph A. Muller) Subject: JFK autograph for sale (serious inquiries only) Nntp-Posting-Host: starbase.spd.louisville.edu Organization: University of Louisville Lines: 12 After hearing about the McGovern House story on Paul Harvey I never had any idea how much it was worth. The autograph is on a Senate Pass card and is signed 'John Kennedy.' I don't remember if it was signed 'Senator John Kennedy' or whether or not it was dated, because I haven't looked at it in quite a while. Currently it is in a safety deposit box. I would rather sell to a private collector rather then go through an auction house such as Christy's since that would tend to take away from the profit. If you (or any collector you may know) has an interest in this please send me an e-mail expressing your interest. I will see what I can do to make a scanned gif of it available to prospective buyers.
7059	From: wade@nb.rockwell.com (Wade Guthrie) Subject: Re: Curious about the Porsche I drove Organization: Rockwell International Lines: 43 ak954@yfn.ysu.edu (Albion H. Bowers) writes: >In a previous article, wade@nb.rockwell.com (Wade Guthrie) says: >>takaharu@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Taka Mizutani) writes: >>>In article <1993Apr13.160535.20123@progress.com>, damelio@progress.COM >>>(Stephen D'Amelio) wrote: I wrote: >This is consistent with the pre-'74 911. The engine before that was a 2.2 >litre (or less, depending on how early you go), and got its power at high >revs (starting slowly at about 3K, and jumping up at around 5K) with a >narrow band. The '74 was a 3 litre and had a lot of smog equipment. If >you got much power at all, it'd be better distributed through the rev >range. >Bzzzt. Wrong answer. It really depends on whether you are talking model >year or date of manufacture. For instance, mine was a '67, but was >manufactured in August of '66. Prior to 1970 all 911s were 2.o liter. For >the '70 and '71 model years they were 2.2 liter. for the 1972 and 1973 >model years they were 2.4 liter _EXCEPT_ for the '73 Carerra RS which was a >2.7 liter. The '74 and later years were easily identified by the new 5 mph >bumpers. Most models in the '74 year were 2.7 lietsr _EXCEPT_ the Carerra >RSR which was a 3.0 liter (US Carerras from '74 were 2.7 liter models). In >'78 they went to 3.0 liter and there was only a single model, the SC (think >of it as a cross between the S and the Carerra models). note all the above >are based on _MODEL_ year, not date of manufacture. I stand corrected. This is all from memory, mind you :-) >As for the rev happy behavior, the earlier cars are even more prone to >this. The 2.4 liter cars used low compression engines, and suffered a bit >in this regard. The early 3.0 liter and 2.7 liter engines also got a good >dose of smog gear as well. The 2.0 and 2.2 liter engines were far and away >the quickest revvers of the lot. Yeah, that's what I was trying to say. No, REALLY! -- Wade Guthrie \| Trying to program on MS-DOS is like trying wade@nb.rockwell.com \| to shave with a chain-saw. Me be not speaking for the Rock. \|
7060	From: schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher) Subject: Re: DC-X update??? Nntp-Posting-Host: starman.convex.com Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and not necessarily those of CONVEX. Lines: 32 In <1993Apr15.234154.23145@iti.org> aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer) writes: >As for the future, there is at least $5M in next years budget for work >on SSRT. They (SDIO) have been looking for more funds and do seem to have >some. However, SDIO is not (I repeat, is not) going to fund an orbital >prototype. The best we can hope from them is to 1) keep it alive for >another year, and 2) fund a suborbital vehicle which MIGHT (with >major modifications) just make orbit. There is also some money for a >set of prototype tanks and projects to answer a few more open questions. Would the sub-orbital version be suitable as-is (or "as-will-be") for use as a reuseable sounding rocket? >Better news comes from the new Spacelifter effort. The USAF managers of >this program are very open to SSTO and will have about $50M next >year for studies. This would be enough to bring DC-Y to PDR. Thank Ghod! I had thought that Spacelifter would definitely be the bastard Son of NLS. (And just as a reminder:) >Now not all of this money will go to DC but a good case could be made >for spending half on DC. >Public support is STILL critical. Meet with your Congressperson (I'll >help you do it) and get his/her support. Also call your local media >and get them to cover the flight tests.
7061	From: edw@boi.hp.com (Edward Walsh) Subject: Guzzi 850-T tires, plus fairing question Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4 Lines: 59 I have a question about tires for my Guzzi. It is a '75 850-T. The tires that were on it when I just bought it are old and cracked. I do not have an owners manual for it (yet), but the tires listed in the Haynes manual are: Front, 3,50 H 18 ; Rear 4.10 H 18, and pressures recommended are 26 front and 33 rear. Oddly, the pressure for the same tire on the T-3 is listed at 29 psi instead. Anyone know the reason? As I know though, the pressure I should run at is that recommended by the manufacturer of the new tires I purchase. The real question I have is this. The old tires that are on the bike are for the front, a Metzler Touring Special, 4.10 H 18, and for the rear an Avon Roadrunner 4.70 H 18, (120/90) H 18 as marked on each tire. Both are larger than that listed in the Haynes Manual. What does the owners manual recommend, and was it common to go up one size for this bike? Also, this will be my first motorcycle with innertubes. Any comments on the various manufacturers inner tube qualities? The above sizes are inches (except for the additional mark on the current rear tire). What is the best metric match? The local BMW dealer thought 100/90 H 18 on the front and 120/90 H 18 on the back. He also happens to be very good at getting close to matching mail order prices. I am thinking of going with a Metzler ME33 Laser (possibly Comp K) on the front and ME88 on the back, both in MBS variety if possible (the longer lasting belting system). I already use the ME33 on both the Vision and FJ for the front, and like it, and I thought that with the shaft drive behavior and torque from the Guzzi that the ME88 might give more predictable back end control and sliding behavior than a ME55 might, as well as giving much better tire milage life. Any comments? A friend told me he thought that my bike had Boranni rims which are very good, but are relatively soft and have delicate sidewalls. I do not wish to mount the tires myself this first time, so aside from warning the shop to be careful, any other comments I should make? I havn't looked at the rim to check out the make yet, if it is marked. He just told me late yesterday and I havn't had a chance to check the rim type. On another note. I will remove the ugly (but in good shape....anyone want it?) Vetter fairing, and I will run without a windscreen for a while, but eventually I would like a simple rounded cafe' style quarter fairing for it. It could be fork/handlebar mounted. Any suggestions? Is there such a thing as a frame mounted quarter fairing of the cafe' style for this bike? How about lower bars/clip-ons for it? I would like to restore the bike into a good condition runner with a few modern updates, but while not being historically exactly accurate still have it reflect relatively well a representation of the cafe' style. (Yes I know to be picky, that period really predates this bike....it is just that this bike has such potential for _that_ look.) -----------------------------Edward Walsh----Hewlett-Packard Company------- edw@boi.hp.com Disk Memory Division, MS475 (208)323-2174 P.O. Box 15 Boise,Idaho 83707 89FJ1200;82XZ550RJ(Vision);75Guzzi850-T;DoD#98 -----------------------------Edward Walsh----Hewlett-Packard Company------- edw@boi.hp.com Disk Memory Division, MS475 (208)396-2174 P.O. Box 15 Boise,Idaho 83707 89FJ1200;82XZ550RJ(Vision);75Guzzi850-T;DoD#98
7062	Subject: Re: Window start up position for app, how? From: davidw@auck.irl.cri.nz (David White) Organization: Industrial Research Ltd, Auckland, New Zealand Keywords: app window, startup position NNTP-Posting-Host: kauri.auck.irl.cri.nz Lines: 15 In <1993Apr19.143054.17499@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> hayesj@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (HAYES JAMES MICHAEL JR) writes: >How do you set up an app to give its window a default start up >position and size? Try sizeit.zip from ftp.cica.indiana.edu [129.79.20.84] in the directory ftp/pub/pc/win3/desktop. It's freeware. Also noticed there a program called sizer110.zip, which from the description looks like it also does what you want. Hope this helps. -- david white (engineer, Goon fan & son of my Dad) Internet davidw@auck.irl.cri.nz Fax +64 9 443-4737
7063	From: ethan@cs.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) Subject: Re: X protocol packet type Article-I.D.: cs.C52I2q.IFJ Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science Lines: 7 In article <93091.144124DEP@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> <DEP@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> writes: >Is there a way to identify an X-protocol packet under DECNET? Under >TCP/IP? > The information in the packets isn't necessarily distinctive -- you need to know that it is an X11 connection. -- Ethan
7064	From: wiml@stein2.u.washington.edu (William Lewis) Subject: Re: Abyss--breathing fluids Organization: University of Washington Lines: 33 NNTP-Posting-Host: stein2.u.washington.edu loss@fs7.ECE.CMU.EDU (Doug Loss) writes: >Besides the mechanical problems of moving so dense a medium in oan out >of the lungs (diaphragm fatigue, etc.), is there likely to be a problem >with the mixture? I mean, since the lungs never expel all the air in >them, the inhaled air has to mix pretty quickly with the residual air in >the lungs to provide a useful partial pressure of oxygen, right? Would >this mixing be substantially faster/slower at the pressures we're >talking about? There was an interesting article in Scientific American some time ago about breathing liquid. (It was a few months before _The Abyss_ came out.) As far as I can remember, they mentioned three things that were difficult to do at once with a substitute breathing fluid: - low viscosity --- if it's too difficult to force the fluid in & out of the lungs, you can't extract enough oxygen to power your own breathing effort (let alone anything else) - diffusion rate --- obviously, not all the air in your lungs is expelled when you breathe out; and the part that isn't expelled is the part that's nearest the walls of the alveoli. (alveolus?) So the trip from the blood vessels to the new air has to be done by diffusion of the gas through the fluid. Apparently oxygen tends to diffuse more readily than CO2, so even if you can get enough oxygen in, you might not be able to get enough CO2 out. - oxygen/CO2 capacity --- you have to be able to dissolve enough gas per unit volume. Oh, and of course, your new breathing fluid must not irritate the lungs or interfere with their healing or anything like that... -- Wim Lewis, wiml@u.washington.edu
7065	From: hayesj@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (HAYES JAMES MICHAEL JR) Subject: ?Order of files written when exitting windows? Nntp-Posting-Host: rintintin.colorado.edu Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Lines: 22 Trying to pin point a hardware problem with my disk, Maxtor 7213AT. Group files get corrupted on a regular basis. Only happens on this drive, D had only one corrupt file in over a year and it was under the control of winword on C. 32-bit disk access and smartdrive are off. Since installation of dblspace problem has turned from an annoyance to a reason for murder. Since the most frequent files corrupted are the *.grp files, are these the last thing written to when exitting Windows? Also, are there any pd/shareware utilities available that do a more thorough job than dos 6, NDD 4.5, etc? DOS 6 and Win 3.1 compatable. Thanks -- Mike Hayes \|"Knowledge is good." - Faber College Motto WWW \|"Knowledge and Thoroughness" -Rensselear Poly Motto Unemployed Tech, \|"No, thank YOU!" -Groucho Marx, 'A Day at the Races' Driven to banging my head against engineering physics for 4 years.
7066	From: jfox@hooksett.East.Sun.COM (John Fox - SunExpress IR) Subject: Re: It's a rush... (was Re: Too fast) Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 50 Distribution: world Reply-To: jfox@hooksett.East.Sun.COM NNTP-Posting-Host: hooksett.east.sun.com In article 5276@unisql.UUCP, wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes: >In article <C5r43y.F0D@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> marshatt@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (Zauberer) writes: >>I guess I wasn't clear enough here. I said the roads WERE designed for >>speeds of 80 or so and still be safe. The current 55-65 will add a saftey >>margin. > > They were designed for speeds of upwards of 80 - I forget the >exact spec - but for military vehicles. That's 80 in a 1958 Dodge >Powerwagon. Not 80 in a 1993 Ford Taurus. > > > > Ah yes, the 58 Powerwagon. Now there was a vehicle that today's cars can't touch in terms of high speed road holding ability! :-)
7067	Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center From: <RCB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> Subject: Re: Sphere from 4 points? Distribution: world Lines: 21 > From: bolson@carson.u.washington.edu (Edward Bolson) > Given 4 points (non coplanar), how does one find the sphere, that is, > cnter and radius, exactly fitting those points? The equation of the sphere through the 4 points (x1,y1,z1),...,(x4,y4,z4) is \| x^2+y^2+z^2 x1^2+y1^2+z1^2 ... x4^2+y4^2+z4^2 \| \| x x1 ... x4 \| \| y y1 ... y4 \| = 0 \| z z1 ... z4 \| \| 1 1 ... 1 \| When this 5 by 5 determininant is expanded on its first column you get the equation in the form A(x^2+y^2+z^2) + Bx + Cy + Dz + E = 0 If you need the center and radius, jyst divide through by A (it cannot be zero if the 4 given points form a non-degenerate tetrahedron) and complete the square on x, y, and z to obtain (x-xc)^2 + (y-yc)^2 + (z-zc)^2 = r^2 rcb@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu (Bob Beach)
7068	From: jmkerrig@vela.acs.oakland.edu (KERRIGAN JOHN M) Subject: Re: Top Ten Ways Slick Willie Could Improve His Standing With Americans Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI. Lines: 40 NNTP-Posting-Host: vela.acs.oakland.edu In article <C5KMz5.Hy4@newsserver.technet.sg> ipser@solomon.technet.sg (Ed Ipser) writes: :>Top Ten Ways Slick Willie Could Improve His Standing With Americans :> :>10. Institute a national sales tax to pay for the socialization of :> America's health care resources. :> :>9. Declare war on Serbia. Reenact the draft. :> :>8. Stimulate the economy with massive income transfers to Democtratic :> constituencies. :> :>7. Appoint an unrepetent socialist like Mario Cuomo to the Suprmeme Court. :> :>6. Focus like a laser beam on gays in the military. :> :>5. Put Hillary in charge of the Ministry of Truth and move Stephanopoulos :> over to socialzed health care. :> :>4. Balance the budget through confiscatory taxation. :> :>3. Remind everyone, again, how despite the Democrats holding the :> Presidency, the majority of seats in the House, and in the Senate, :> the Republicans have still managed to block his tax-and-spend programs. :> :>2. Go back to England and get a refresher course in European Socialism. :> *SNIP* And the number one way Slick Willie could improve his standing with Americans... (Drum roll Anton) 1. Get himself an appointment with Dr. Kervorkian - and keep it! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Kerrigan a.k.a. jmkerrig@vela.acs.oakland.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
7069	Subject: What about SMARTDRV /DOUBLE_BUFFER? From: psweeney@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service" Lines: 9 I am curious: what does the /double_buffer parameter in smartdrv actually do for me? I seem to have less problems in Windows when I leave it out. Using a PS/2 with an ESDI drive, but also a PS/2 with a SCSI. Any response is welcome. Peter Sweeney psweeney@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
7070	From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) Subject: SHARKS REVIEW Part 2: Defensemen (2-19) Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Lines: 92 I finally got it back, with great thanks to Mark Spiegel for saving and sending it. #2 ROB ZETTLER Season: 4th Acquired: '91-92, from Minnesota in dispersal draft Grade: C/C- Zettler gave the Sharks every bit he's got this year; unfortunately, this still wasn't enough to make him any more than a marginal NHLer, if that. He works hard, for sure, but is no better than average on defense, and is prone to costly penalties and defensive lapses at times, while being basically an offensive zero (0 goal and 7 assists in 79 games). He would be hardpressed to make the team next year. #3 DAVID WILLIAMS Season: 2nd Acquired: '91-92, free agent from New Jersey Grade: C/C- IMO, Williams was the most valuable defenseman for the Sharks in '91-92, playing a combination of good offense (3 goals and 25 assists in 56 games) and good defense. But he, playing the first part of this season in Kansas City, was good neither offensively nor defensively this year; it, then, appears that '91-92 was a fluke. Although he improved towards the end of the season, he was prone to being out of position defensively, and did not demonstrate the playmaking skills that made him the team's leading scorer among defensemen last year. He would also be hardpressed to make the team next year. #4 JAYSON MORE Season: 2nd Acquired: '91-92, from Montreal in expansion draft Grade: B+ After being touted as the team's top defensive prospects in training camp before '91-92, More had a rather disappointing '91-92, as he was not particularly good defensively, and had just 17 points in 46 games. He, then, proceeded to improve his game massively this season, becoming the team's most reliable defenseman, whom the team can count on night in and night out to play steady defense and providing occasional (but only occasional) offensive flash. Offensively, he was even more disappointing than last year (11 points in 73 games), but his defense improved tremendously. He is probably best as the defensive part of a defense combination with an offensive defenseman. #5 NEIL WILKINSON Season: 4th Acquired: '91-92, from Minnesota in dispersal draft Grade: B- Wilkinson was probably the team's top defensive defenseman in '91-92. However, partially because of injuries, he was not the same this year, as he missed 25 games total due to nagging knee and back injuries, and seemed to be slowed even when playing. He, then, had often to be saved by his defensive partners; that is, if they are there at all. But he also had some solid games, and if he can be complete healthy, he can still be a force. #6 SANDIS OZOLINSH Season: 1st Acquired: '91-92, 2nd round pick in entry draft Grade: I (A) At the time of his injury (December 30, against the Philadelphia Flyers), Ozolinsh was well on track to be, IMO, the team's MVP. A serious knee injury in that game, though, forced him to miss the rest of the season (47 games), but he still finished as the team's top scorer among defensemen (23 points), which, of course, tells more about the lack of offense the Sharks had from their defensemen, but it also tells of Ozolinsh's abilities. At the time, he was playing very good defense along with excellent offense; he was still susceptible to so-called "rookie mistakes," but was probably the defenseman who made the least of them on the team, rookie or veteran. If he can come back from his injuries, he is ready to be a star. #19 DOUG ZMOLEK Season: 1st Acquired: '91-92, from Minnesota in dispersal draft Grade: B Zmolek had basically a solid and durable year, being one of the only two Sharks to play in all 84 games of the season. He was solid on defense, but after being billed as an offensive defenseman, he didn't show it (15 points). He was also prone to penalties, and his 229 penalty minutes was second on the team; however, that was also an indication that he was fearly when facing tough physical opponents, and he was at his best when playing physically. But to become a fixture in this league, he needs to improve both offensively and defensively, and cut down on the number of power-plays he gives to opponents. =============================================================================== GO CALGARY FLAMES! Al MacInnis for Norris! Gary Roberts for Hart and Smythe! GO EDMONTON OILERS! Go for playoffs next year! Stay in Edmonton! =============================================================================== Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu) rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
7071	From: bbs-comarow@jwt.oau.org (Bob Comarow) Subject: Re: Jewish Baseball Players? Reply-To: bbs-comarow@jwt.oau.org Organization: The Matrix Lines: 4 Dave Kingman is Jewish bob comarow@eisner.decus.org
7072	From: stlucas@gdwest.gd.com (Joseph St. Lucas) Subject: Re: Dumbest automotive concepts of all time Organization: General Dynamics Corp. Distribution: usa Lines: 10 Don't have a list of what's been said before, so hopefully not repeating. How about horizontally mounted oil filters (like on my Ford) that, no matter how hard you try, will spill out their half quart on the bottom of the car when you change them? -- Joe St.Lucas stlucas@gdwest.gd.com Standard Disclaimers Apply General Dynamics Space Systems, San Diego Work is something to keep me busy between Ultimate Frisbee games.
7073	From: wout@dutentb.et.tudelft.nl (Wout Serdijn) Subject: Re: how can 0.022 uF be different from two 0.047 in series?! Nntp-Posting-Host: duteela.et.tudelft.nl Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering Lines: 43 In <1993Apr19.185326.9830@Princeton.EDU> mg@cs.princeton.edu (Michael Golan) writes: >I was looking at the amps diagram for Sony 1090/2090 receivers, and I >was amazed to find a difference between the US and Canadian model >on the capacitor(s) that hangs off the output to the speakers: > ------\/\/\----- to speaker (identical both models >from amp ---------------\| >(idnetical both models) > > < 10 > > > \| > ----- > \| \| > 0.022 --- --- Canadian model only! > US model --- --- 0.047 > and world-wide \| \| > model only. \| --- Candian model only! > \| --- 0.047 > \| \| > ----------- gound >The board itself is also identical, with room for all three caps. The >US/Can versions is clearly indicated in both places. >How does that make sense? 0.047/2 is 0.0235, essentially 0.022 for caps >(there are just standard caps, no special W/type/precision). >Please explain this > Michael Golan > mg@cs.princeton.edu The only explanation I can think of is that two capacitors in series can handle twice the output voltage. Sometimes two elco's in antiseries (you know, positive sides facing eachother) are used to obtain a large capacitor that can handle positive and negative voltages as well. So there probably is no design-philosophical reason, but a production-cost one. Best 73's Wouter
7074	From: gutenkun@fzi.de (Kai Gutenkunst) Subject: Archie-Client ? Organization: Forschungszentrum Informatik (FZI), Karlsruhe, Germany Lines: 4 Distribution: world Reply-To: gutenkun@fzi.de NNTP-Posting-Host: ikarus.fzi.de xgetftp-1.2 needs an archie client program. Does anybody know, where I can get it? Thanks in advance, Kai
7075	From: lmh@juliet.caltech.edu (Henling, Lawrence M.) Subject: Re: Americans and Evolution Organization: California Institute of Technology Lines: 13 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: juliet.caltech.edu News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 In article <1993Apr3.195642.25261@njitgw.njit.edu>, dmu5391@hertz.njit.edu (David Utidjian Eng.Sci.) writes... >In article <31MAR199321091163@juliet.caltech.edu> lmh@juliet.caltech.edu (Henling, Lawrence M.) writes: > For a complete description of what is, and is not atheism >or agnosticism see the FAQ for alt.atheism in alt.answers... I think. >utidjian@remarque.berkeley.edu I apologize for posting this. I thought it was only going to talk.origins. I also took my definitions from a 1938 Websters. Nonetheless, the apparent past arguments over these words imply that like 'bimonthly' and 'biweekly' they have no commonly accepted definitions and should be used with care. larry henling lmh@shakes.caltech.edu
7076	From: de@cup.hp.com (Dan Epstein) Subject: Re: Foreign Media Reaction April 1-12, part 1 of 3 Nntp-Posting-Host: capella.cup.hp.com Organization: Hewlett-Packard X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9.2] Lines: 19 Phill Hallam-Baker (hallam@dscomsa.desy.de) wrote: : First off they could recognise Iraqu's responsibility in initiating the : Iran/Iraq war. Providing technical assistance to Iran to get it's oil : production back up to capacity would also be a smart move, at the moment : Iran is above it's OPEC ceiling. If they had extra capacity they would : use it and bring down the oild price further which is in our interests. I agree with most of what Phill says, except the point about it being in our interests to bring down the oil price. Consider that both the U.S. and Great Britain have domestic sources to partly satisfy their energy needs. Pricy OPEC oil impacts both Germany, Japan and many other "industrial rivals" more than these two. In addition, the proceeds from the sale (especially by Saudi Arabia, Kuwait U.A.E. etc) are disproportionately reinvested in the U.S. and G.B., propping up these economies and further providing an incentive to keep prices from falling too low. Dan Epstein
7077	From: paladin@world.std.com (Thomas G Schlatter) Subject: Re: Hhy won't my DOS apps run in a window?! Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Lines: 8 In article <735417915snz@sigma.demon.co.uk> jason@sigma.demon.co.uk writes: >Can somebody help me out there? I have just purchased Win 3.1 and I just >can't get DOS apps (text mode apps) to run in a window on their own. I've >tried mucking around with the PIF settings etc, but to no avail. What am >I doing wrong? (I didn't get this problem under v3.0). > Are you sure you're running in 386-enhanced mode? (Windows 3.1 takes more memory...)
7078	From: rgc3679@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Robert G. Carpenter) Subject: Re: Please Recommend 3D Graphics Library For Mac. Organization: Boeing Lines: 30 In article <1993Apr17.092051.19814@kth.se> d88-jwa@hemul.nada.kth.se (Jon Wtte) writes: >In <Z2442B4w164w@cellar.org> tsa@cellar.org (The Silent Assassin) writes: > >>> I'm building a CAD package and need a 3D graphics library that can handle >>> some rudimentry tasks, such as hidden line removal, shading, animation, etc. >>> >>> Can you please offer some recommendations? > >I think APDA has something called MacWireFrame which is a full >wire-frame (and supposedly hidden-line removal) library. >I think it weighs in at $99 (but I've been wrong on an order >of magnitude before) > I spoke with the author of MacWireFrame earlier today. The cost is $299, but there are no license royalties. His name is Eric Johnson in Sacramento, CA phone 916/737-1550. He doesn't have email. Very nice guy... very knowledgeable about graphics. Seems like he may have a decent package. It's an Object Pascal Framework that supposedly has a fairly complete set of geometry creation classes. I'm going to check it out and see if it's got what I need for my CAD package. I also found another package: 3D Graphic Tools by Micro System Options in Seattle. The number is: 206/868-5418, also no email. The package is strong at ray tracing, I'm not too sure about its geometry creation tools. I also need to look into this package some more. I also spoke with the author, Mark Owens, another nice guy that seems to know his business. The price is $249, no royalties. BobC
7079	From: gmiller@worldbank.org (Gene C. Miller) Subject: Immunotherapy for Recurrent Miscarriage Organization: worldbank.org Lines: 17 Following a series of miscarriages, my wife was given a transfusion of my white cells. (The theory as I understand it is that there is some kind of immune blocking that prevents the body from attacking the pregnancy as it normally would a "foreign" body. Where this blocking is deficient, the body evicts the "intruder", resulting in a miscarriage. The white cells apparently enhance the blocking capability.) Following the transfusion, she successfully carried the next pregnancy to term, and Jake is now an active 9 month-old who cannot wait to walk. We're now thinking about having another child, but no one (including the OBGYN who supervised the first transfusion) really seems to know whether or not the transfusion process needs to be repeated for successive pregnancies. Is there anyone in net-land who has experience with this? Thanks...Gene (and Jane and Jake) P.S. I've also posted this in misc.kids.
7080	Subject: Re: Soundblaster IRQ and Port settings From: ARowatt@massey.ac.nz (A.J. Rowatt) Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c Lines: 17 They don't have a conflict because technically LPT1: does not use IRQ7!. The Parallel printer processor (the actual number escapes me) contains a printer control register which enables the chip to transmit an interrupt to the interrupt controller as IRQ7, then onto the main processor as Int 0x0F. By default the parallel printer processor does not enable it's interrupt line therefore no Int 0x0F's will be sourced from the printer controller chip, thus enabling other devices to use the actual IRQ7. Note, this applies to COM ports also which by default do not route interrupts to the system bus, although COM's software usually enable this feature as it make monitoring COM port activity easier than polling the serial UART, thus probably getting the sound card slighty confused!. Windows may be a different story....
7081	From: jhwitten@cs.ruu.nl (Jurriaan Wittenberg) Subject: Re: images of earth Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science Lines: 27 In <1993Apr18.230732.27804@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> ken@cs.UAlberta.CA (Huisman Kenneth M) writes: >I am looking for some graphic images of earth shot from space. >( Preferably 24-bit color, but 256 color .gif's will do ). > >Anyways, if anyone knows an FTP site where I can find these, I'd greatly >appreciate it if you could pass the information on. Thanks. > > Try FTP-ing at pub-info.jpl.nasa.gov (128.149.6.2) (simple dir-structure) and ames.arc.nasa.gov at /pub/SPACE/GIF and /pub/SPACE/JPEG sorry only 8 bits gifs and jpegs :-( great piccy's though (try the *x.gif files they're semi-huge gif89a files) ^^-watch out gif89a dead ahead!!! Good-luck (good software to be found out-there too) Jurriaan JHWITTEN@CS.RUU.NL -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- \|----=\|=-<- - - - - - JHWITTEN@CS.RUU.NL- - - - - - - - - - - - ->-=\|=----\| \|----=\|=-<-Jurriaan Wittenberg- - -Department of ComputerScience->-=\|=----\| \|____/\|\_________Utrecht_________________The Netherlands___________/\|\____\|
7082	From: ketil@edb.tih.no (Ketil Albertsen,TIH) Subject: Re: How to the disks copy protected. Organization: T I H / T I S I P Posting-Front-End: Winix Conference v 92.05.15 1.20 (running under MS-Windows) Lines: 20 In article <1993Apr20.230749.12821@reed.edu>, mblock@reed.edu (Matt Block) writes: > I guess what I am saying is that your question is difficult, if not >impossible, to answer. What exactly do you want to know? Do you need a good >one for a project you are working on? How secure must it be? Are you trying >to crack one that someone else has used? I can probably make suggestions, >assuming the activity is strictly legal. (In general, it is a BAD idea, >legally, to tamper with copy protection. It can also lead to corruption of >files which you necessarily do not have back ups of (being as they are copy >protected,) which can be devestating.) Do you have absolutely no ideas for >practical applications, and are merely curious? > Please clear up those questions, and I'll try to help as much as I >can. May we interpret this as an offer to volunteer as editor for a "Copy protection FAQ" ? I am quite sure that I am not alone welcoming such an initiative! I will volunteer to ask some of the questions, if you will provide the answers :-) Ketil Albertsen
7083	From: wild@access.digex.com (wildstrom) Subject: Re: MathCad 4.0 swap file Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA Lines: 12 NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net baseball@catch-the-fever.scd.ucar.edu (Gregg Walters) writes: >I have 16MB of memory on my 386SX. I have been running Windows >without a swap file for several months. Will Mathcad 4.0 be >happy with this, or insist on a swap file? Presumeably, you mean without a _permanent_ swap file. If Windows needs a swap file, it will upo and create one if a permanent one doesn't exist. Permanent is generally faster though. I don't know why Mathcad wouldn't be happy with either type--Ver. 3.0 is and so should any program conforming to the Win specification.
7084	From: farrar@cogsci.ucsd.edu (Scott Farrar) Subject: Re: Caps Lock vs. control ( was:Re: Apple keyboard ) Organization: University of California, San Diego Lines: 9 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: cogsci.ucsd.edu Please excuse and redirect me if this has already been answered, but is there a small utility that switches the functionality of the caps-lock key and the ctrl key on the powerbook keyboard? I use the ctrl key far more than caps-lock, so it would be more convenient and comfortable. Thank you for any help, Scott Farrar
7085	From: mpaul@unl.edu (marxhausen paul) Subject: Re: "National repentance" Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Lines: 37 mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) writes: >I heard on the radio today about a Christian student conference where >Christians were called to "repent" of America's "national" sins, such >as sexual promiscuity. >How can I repent of _someone else's_ sin? I can't. >And when I claim to "repent" of someone else's sin, am I not in fact >_judging_ him? Jesus equipped us to judge activities but warned us >not to judge people. "Judge not that ye be not judged." Strictly speaking, you're right - we can't repent _for_ somebody else, for what they've done. I guess I don't think it's out of line to talk about a generalized repentence for our contribution to or participation in "The sins of society" , or for our tacit approval (by our silence) of sinful attitudes or practices....it may be that we're also just plain begging for mercy, hoping God will withhold his hand of judgement on our whole country for the sake of a few, much as Abraham sought to do for the sake of Lot. (Hmmm, the results there were pretty cautionary...) A few times lately when I've observed some either out-and-out sinful activity, or just some self-destructive activity, I've gotten a strong impression that many folks really don't know any better. Christ's pity on the crowds as being "like sheep without a shepherd" rings true to me. If these folks don't have a clue, do I bear _any_ responsibility for my not having communicated a better way? Worse still; have I expressed judgement and disgust at their doings, and thus alienated them from any positive relationship whereby I might pass along anything positive? I _know_ I've got something to repent about on that score. Anyway, it's a real interesting question. -- paul marxhausen .... ....... ............. ............ ............ .......... .. . . . . . university of nebraska - lincoln . . . .. . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . grace . . . . . . . . . . . . happens .
7086	From: steerr@h01.UUCP (R. William Steer) Subject: X-server for NT? Organization: The Internet Lines: 8 To: expo.lcs.mit.edu!xpert@tron.bwi Has anybody generated an X server for Windows NT? If so, are you willing to share your config file and other tricks necessary to make it work? Thanks for any information. Bill Steer Westinghouse (412)374-6367
7087	From: maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) Subject: Re: div. and conf. names Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON Distribution: na Lines: 63 In <C5pDGI.LJL@news.cso.uiuc.edu> epritcha@s.psych.uiuc.edu ( Evan Pritchard) writes: > I think that you are incorrect, Roger. Patrick, >Smythe and Adams all played or coached in the league before becoming >front office types. Hence, they did help build the league, although >they were not great players themselves. Punch Imlach's contributions as a coach and GM were far greater than those of the above combined. Should we name a division or trophy after him? Smythe and Norris and the bunch were honoured purely because they were powerful owners. As owners they certainly did help to build the league but whether they developed the game is another question altogether. Are we going to honour those who contributed to the league's evolution or are we going to honour those who contributed to the glory of the sport itself? > I agree that a name is a name is a name, and if some people >have trouble with names that are not easily processed by the fans, >then changing them to names that are more easily processed seems like >a reasonable idea. If we can get people in the (arena) door by being >uncomplicated, then let's do so. Once we have them, they will realize >what a great game hockey is, and we can then teach them something >abotu the history of the game. I can't disagree with you here. >>The history of the names can be put rather succinctly. All of the aforemen- >>tioned used the game of hockey to make money. Can you imagine a Pocklington >>division? A Ballard division? Or how about a Green division? > No, I would not want to see a Ballard division. But to say >that these owners are assholes, hence all NHL management people are >assholes would be fallacious. Conn Smythe, for example, was a classy >individual (from what I have heard). What have you heard? The Major was the definitive little asshole! He originated the phrase "if you can't beat 'em in the alley you can't beat 'em on the ice." That was his idea of hockey. Do you think, by chance, that Don Cherry is a classy individual? > Also, isn't the point of "professional" hockey to make money >for all those involved, which would include the players. What I think >you might be saying is that the players have not made as much money as >should have been their due, and it is the players that are what make >the game great not the people who put them on the ice, so naming >division after management people rather than players is adding insult >(in the form of lesser recognition) to injury (less money than was >deserved). The money issue is irrelevant to the point that we would agree on, and that is: "it is the players that are what make the game great and not the people who put them on the ice" Exactly true. Naming divisions and trophies after Smythe and the bunch is the same kind of nepotism that put Stein in the hall of fame. I have always thought that this was nonsense. -- cordially, as always, maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca "So many morons... rm ...and so little time."
7088	From: gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky - Hobokenite) Subject: Re: My Belated Predictions (NL) Article-I.D.: pilot.Apr.6.00.29.46.1993.26280 Organization: Somewhere in Hoboken Lines: 13 briefly, since i'm off to sleep. mle's work pretty well for AA nd AAA players. players who are 22 and younger will tend to have explosions in their numbers, whether mMLE's or not, in the next 2 years... players who are 26 and OLDER, at those levels, generally have inflated MLE's. they're about as reliable as having major league stats for a player. - bob gaj
7089	From: nestor+@cs.cmu.edu (Nestor F Michelena) Subject: HELP!!: 0300FF error at power-up a Mac Plus Nntp-Posting-Host: nestor.cimds.ri.cmu.edu Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon Lines: 7 I'm getting a sad Mac icon on a black screen with the error code 0300FF. Could someone please tell me what's wrong? Memory? Thanks a lot. I'd appreciate it infinitely... Nestor Michelena
7090	From: bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu (GRUBB) Subject: Mac & IBM Info-Version 1.7.7 Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM Lines: 753 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: dante.nmsu.edu {Send follow ups to comp.sys.mac.advocacy. Sorry about the header but the Pnews here does not let one easily change the headers and I gave up after a year of trying. This sheet is also available by FTP on sumex-aim.stanford.edu (36.44.0.6) in the info-mac/report as mac-ibm-compare177.txt.} Mac & IBM Info-Version 1.7.7 The reason for this general data sheet is to consolidate and condense the information out there, so that people in both camps can be clear and accurate about what they are saying about their machines. Since computer technology is always changing there are always going to be points in which the sheet will be lacking or incorrect on information. So, please just don't say the sheet is incomplete or incorrect but also give me clear and concise information to make the needed corrections. All prices are in US dollars. To keep this data sheet organized please provide, if possible, article citations for the information provided or corrected and keep the opinions to a minimum. As this is a general data sheet, keep the info provided simple so I can understand what is being talked about and can explain it to others. Finally, keep the information relevant to the section corrected {For example, OS code in ROM is software contained in hardware, so no more of the 'but it is supported in OS disk software' data for the hardware section, please}. Thank you. Note: for proper reading off line this document should be in 9 point Monaco. Special thanks to ANDREW@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (Chihuahua Charlie), andrew@frip.wv.tek.com (Andrew Klossner), bell-peter@YALE.EDU (Peter Bell), bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman), cj00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Carl B Jabido), d88- jwa@nada.kth.se (Jon Wtte) ephraim@Think.COM (Ephraim Vishniac), fj05+@andrew.cmu.edu (Faisal Nameer Jawdat), gsidler@cafe.eecs.nwu.edu (Gabriel Sidler), julian@deepthnk.kiwi.gen.nz (Julian Harris), Erick.Krueger@um.cc.umich.edu, krueger@engin.umich.edu, matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu (Matt Healy), mark@bilpin.co.uk (Mark Allerton), jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim), mem@jhufos.pha.jhu.edu (Mel Martinez), nan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Nan Zou), pwagner%us.oracle.com, s_fuller@iastate.edu, strobl@gmd.de (Wolfgang Strobl), jkirvin@pafosu1.hq.af.mil, phill@ichips.intel.com, shaikha@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu, sxjcb@orca.alaska.edu (Jay C. Beavers), Lewis Kawecki@novell.com, lamont@catfish16.rtsg.mot.com (Bradley Lamont), cerro@mbcl.rutgers.edu ("Cerro, Joseph A"), mpark@utmem1.utmem.edu (Mel Park), logullo@applelink.apple.com (Jeff Logullo), zrai02@hou.amoco.com (Robert Irlbeck), and mikew@apple.com for providing some of the information that made this list possible. Contents CPUs Hardware Monitor support Expansion Operating system OS Number Crunching Networking & Printing The CPUs Note: I am only showing Motorola & Intel CPUs used in Mac and most IBM/PC clone machines. For example, since Apple never used the Motorola 68008 and 68010 in the Mac these chips are not listed. Years only appear with dead CPUs and indicate first to last year used as a CPU. Cache note: both IBM and Mac use caches external to the CPUs. These external caches increase the speed of the CPU but are not a part of it. In most of the present Macs there are external caches built-in while with IBM they are optional {Though machines are generally sold with them installed}. Since there are many different external caches {CPU-Mac and IBM; SCSI, video, disk and static RAM-Mac}, each having a different effect on CPU performance, and they are machine {32KB static RAM cache in IIci, IIfx, and IIvx}, seller {cache card installed in some IIcis} or expansion {IIci cache cards go up to 128KB} dependent, I have decided to leave them out of the list. Note: ALU is industry's de-facto standard for CPU bit classification. IBM ALU Registers External CPU Features/ CPU bus address cache Notes 8088(6) 16 16 8 (16) 20 none {1981-9} {198?-9} 80186 16 16 16 20 none {198?-9?} segmenting 80286 16 16 16 24 none 80186 + Protected Mode 80386 32 32 32 32 none MMU & 32-bit Protected Mode 486sx 32 32 32 32 one 8K 80486 - FPU 80486 32 32 32 32 one 8K 80386 & FPU 486dx2 32 32 32 32 one 8K doubled internal clock rate* 486dx3 being demoed. 20/60 MHz, 25/75 MHz, and 33/99 MHz planned. Pentium 32 32 64 32 16K code, CISC chip with RISC-like 5 16K data features, 2-issue superscalar, [P 5] 386 Write-Back, 64-bit FPU path, pipelining; Speed: SPECint92: 64.5; SPECfp92: 56.9** 386sx: 386 chip with 32-bit internal/16-bit external architecture. 286 and 386sx chips can address to 16MB maximum RAM. 386sl: low power(3.3V) 386sx with built-in power management. Used mainly on laptops. 386slc: IBM 5V 386sx with a 16k on-chip cache added (John H. Kim). As far as John H. Kim knows it is only used on IBM models. 486slc: Neither of two chips that have this name have a FPU. Cyrix: basically 486sx in 386sx socket with 1k cache and improved integer math speed. IBM: equivalent to the 486sx except it has a 16k on-chip cache. * ex. for 486dx2/50, chip runs 50 MHz rest of machine runs at 25 MHz. **(PC Week 04/12/93; PC Mag 4/27/93:138) "The latest in a line of CISC chips" (PC Mag 4/27/93:110) Samples released March 22, 1993, but machines will not be announced until at least May 1993 (PC Week 2/08/93). $1000 a CPU; systems $5000 and up (PC Mag 4/27/93:110). Mac ALU Registers External CPU Features/ CPU bus address cache Notes 68000 16 32 16 24 none {1984-1993} 16MB limit 68020 32 32 32 32 256 code {1987-1992} parallel processing 68030 32 32 32 32 two 256 68020 + MMU, 16K burst mode 68LC040 32 32 32 32 two 4K 68040 - FPU 68040 32 32 32 32 two 4K MMU, FPU, pipelining, doubled internal clock rate* 68050 development discontinued in favor of 68060 68060 32 32 32 32 Branch 68040 + a better FPU, target superscaler pipelining, cache line bursts, equivalent capabilities & speeds to Pentium# includes data and instruction {code} caches. The 68030, 68LC040, & 68040 have built-in caches for both. 68000 Mac designs created a 4MB limit. The 040 has 2 clocks, an internal processor clock [PCLK] that is 2x freq of external bus clock [BCLK] which is the one used to rate the chips (Bradley Lamont; Motorola 68040 data book). Some compilers produce programs sensitive to the PCLK and so they act as if the 68040 was a clock doubler chip, but this very compiler and program dependent. Compliers maybe written to allow programs to take consitant advantage of the 68040's PCLK in the future. As it is now, studies such as one in a Byte article {which showed 040/25 ~486/50 and roughly ~486dx2/50} are very dependent on the machine, OS, and programs tested and as such are not representative of general performance. #Motorola claims (PC Week 09/07/92; 09/14/92). As the PowerPCs are to be in both IBM and Mac machines I have listed them separately to eliminate redundancy. They are Motorola CPU RISC chips. PowerPC ALU Registers External CPU Features/ CPU bus address cache Notes MC98601 32 32 32 int 64 32K Speed: SPECint92: 50; [601] 32 fp combined SPECfp92: 80* I/D MC98603: low power MC98601 for desktop & portable systems. Out by end of 1993. [603] MC98604: high performance MC98601 for high end machines. Out by 1st Q 1994. [604] MC98620 64 64 32 int 64 32K Out by mid 1994. [620] 32 fp combined I/D (PC Week 04/12/93; PC Mag 4/27/93:138). Select venders were sent sample MC98601 chips by Motorola 2/93 (PC Week 2/08/93), and some NuBus boards containing early samples of PowerPC 601 have been given to Apple's "A-list" developers (PC Week 12/7/92; MacWeek 12/14/92). MC98601/50MHz-$280; MC98601/66MHz-$374 (PC Week 4/12/93). Systems: ~$3500 with ~$2000 versions out by mid 1994 (PC Week 4/12/93). CPUs Comparison List As a general rule of thumb Motorola chips are faster than Intel chips at the same frequency {030/25 ~= 386/33; 040/25 ~= 486dx/50}, but Intel has chips at higher frequencies than Motorola, so this evens out. The Macintosh Bible 4th ed. supports the comparisons between Intel and Motorola chips for the 68020 and above. <=80186 ~ 68000 {16-bit vs 16/24/32-bit chip [data path/address lines/data & address registers]. The 4MB limit on the 68000 Macs brings it down to the 80186 and lower chips, otherwise it would compare to the 80286.} 286 ~ 68020 {hardware segmenting vs. 68020's 32-bit ALU and these chips come have no usable built-in MMU unlike their successors [80386, 68030]. The hardware segmenting's protected mode is used by OS/2 1.0 => and Windows 3.X. The use of the hardware segmenting and their 16-bit nature put the 286 between the 60000 and 68030 in features and the LC's 16-bit data path strenghthens the 286 ~ 68020 comparison.} 386 ~ 68030 {Two 32-bit chips with MMUs, and protected memory. A/UX 3.0 is at present the only Mac OS to use the 68030's protected memory feature for apps. System 7.x uses this feature to protect a RAM disk created by the Memory control panel but this is supported only on Powerbooks and Quadras. The Color Classic and LCII 16-bit hardware data paths makes the 68030s in them comparative to 386sxs.} 486sx ~ 68LC040 {same as 486 and 68040 without the FPU; used as a low cost solution for people who do not need the FPU. Only with programs sensitive to PCLK & pipelining does the 68LC040 behave like 486dx2 - FPU or a '486dx2sx'.} 486 ~ 68040 {two 32-bit microprocessors with built-in FPU, MMU, 8K internal cache (which is implemented as two 4K caches in the 68040 and one in the 486). Only with programs sensitive to PCLK & pipelining does the 68040 behave like a 486dx2.} Pentium ~ 68060 {Both are planned to be superscalar but both have heat problems. These chips may flounder against the cheaper (PC Week 3/08/93; 4/12/93; PC Mag 4/27/93:110), earlier released (PC Week 12/7/92; MacWeek 12/14/92; PC Week 2/08/93), less leat producing {160 degrees F for Pentium (PC Mag 4/27/93:118)}, and partly ported to PowerPC chips.} PowerPC = PowerPC {This CPU line is planned to run programs from DOS, Windows 3.x, OS/2 and Mac OS on top of PowerOpen-A/UX 4.0 [UNIX] and later Pink [Taligent OS] by using emulators or, if necessary, the OSes themselves in a 'shell' a.k. how SoftPC or OS/2 does DOS.} Hardware {In an effort to remove the 'reconfiguring the system almost every time you add something' requirement for add-in cards, drivers, video, and operating systems in the IBM world, Intel, Microsoft and 12 other hardware and software developers are working out 'plug and play' standards (PC Week 03/08/93).} Color Support/Display Mac: 30.24 MHz Pixel Clock standard. All present Macs support the use of 32-bit color through 32-bit color QuickDraw in ROM. 32-bit color QuickDraw allows an almost transparent capability to display and edit X-bit images in Y- bit color and retain ALL the colors of Y-bit color [Where X and Y independently are 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, or 32] regardless of monitor resolution {63 dpi [12" color] to 94 dpi [PaletteBook]} or monitor type {including autosynchronous VGA, MCGA and SVGA monitors with ranges including 66.7 hz vertically and 35 kHz horizontally and only a hardware video adaptor (MacUser Aug 1992: 158-176). Older machines that supported color {SE/30, II, IIX, and IIcx} had only 8-bit color in ROM and needed a software patch to use 32-bit color (MacUser Special 1993:28-29). To keep costs down and speed up most Macs have only 8 or 16 bit display capability built-in, but most of those can be expanded to display 24-bit color. Presently QuickDraw is optimized for 72 dpi display; QuickDraw QX will change this. In addition, QuickDraw allows, in Macs with a NuBus slot, more then one monitor to be used in any combination, from two monitors showing the same thing to multiple monitors acting as one large large monitor with any degree of overlap of the pictures. VRAM: Video RAM. Standard for present non-PowerBook Mac's handling of built-in video {from a 32-bit color palette}. VRAM provided runs a 8-bit color 640x480 display; expandable to 16-bit color or a 8-bit 832x624 display. Sound output: Standard in all Macs since the 128K. Stereo sound became standard with the SE/30. IBM: Even though PCs have ROM BIOS definitions of how the operating system interacts with the video hardware (Nan Zou), the use of drivers bypassing BIOS, video hareware inconsitancies {see Super VGA below} and nonstanderzation of clone BIOS have left resolution of video display hardware, OS and program interaction up to the OS and video hardware in question (Faisal Nameer Jawdat). In addition, IBM and clone makers never bothered to provide a standard hardware mechanism for software to determine what display mode is actually present (Matt Healy) nor a standardized screen-drawing toolbox {like Mac's QD}. As a result the OS must be very well written to detect some modes, especially with some third party cards or to use them consitantly {At present things are so dependent on the interaction of the program, OS, print driver and monitor card that editing 32-bit pictures regardless of color mode, OS, and monitor type/card combination as one can do on the Mac is impossible with an IBM. For example, one cannot edit a 32-bit color picture done on a OS/2 486 with a SVGA monitor on a 386 with VGA {18-bit color palette} and DOS 5.0 and still have ALL the colors one started out with}. Later IBM machines will have integrated graphics accelerators, faster processors, and modular upgradeability and may have built-in sound cards, CD ROM, and Ethernet (PC Week 12/14/92). MDA: Monocrome Display Adapter original character-mapped video mode, no graphics, 80x25 text. CGA: Color Graphics Array 320x200 4 colors or 640x200 b/w, 16 color palette, bad for the eyes. EGA: Enhanced Graphics Array 640x350 16 colors from 64 color palette [and some lower res]; some versions could run at 256 colors, bearable on the eyes. VGA: Video Graphics Array 320x200 at 256 colors, 640x480 at 16 colors, and some others, these two are the most commonly used. All modes have a 256K CLUT, from a 18 to 24-bit {IBM} or a 32-bit {Mac} color palette. 25.175 MHz Pixel Clock (Mel Martinez). Monitors use analog input, incompatible with TTL signals from EGA/CGA etc. MCGA: Multi-Color Graphics Array* subset of VGA that provides all the features of MDA & CGA, but lacks some EGA and VGA modes, like VGA 640x480x16 (Dictionary of Computer Terms-DCT). Common on the initial PS/1 implementation from IBM and some PS/2 Models. SVGA: Super VGA* This is not a standard in the way the others were, but instead was a 'catch all' category for a group of video cards. As such, with each manufacturer using their own implementation scheme, SVGA was chaos with people debating as to what is SVGA and what is not. In an effort to make SVGA more of a standard VESA was established and is used in the newer units, but things are still a mess. Video is either 512K [~1990] or 1M [today], resolution of 800x600 and 1024x768 at 16 and 256 colors are common, newer ones [since 1990] have the Sierra HiColor RAMDAC, giving 15-bit 32,768 colors at 800x600, some of the very newer ones [~6/92] can do 24 bits per pixel [usually at 640x480]. Speedwise, too much variation, some very slow [Western Digital Paradise based, for example], some very fast [S3 86C911 based, for example], some are so-so [like Tseng ET4000, a very popular chipset]. Some limiting factors overcome by 40MHz VL Bus & 386's linear address mapping were: 8.33 MHz ISA bus, AT architecture where the CPU looks at the card through a 64K "window", etc. Other non-SVGA standards: 8514/a: IBM's own standard, interlacing graphics accelerator with graphics functions like linedraw, polygon fill, etc. in hardware. Some clone implementations from ATI are the fastest video available today, though some clone models do not have interlacing. TMS34010/34020: high end graphics co-processors, usually >$1000, some do 24-bit, speeds up vector-oriented graphics like CAD. XGA: eXtended Graphics Array newer and faster than 8514/a, only available for MCA bus-based PS/2s, clones are coming out soon. Emulates VGA, EGA, and CGA (DCT). Max resolution at 1024x768x8b, same as 8514/a, also some 16 bpp modes. XGA-2 Accelerates graphics functions up to 20 times faster than standard VGA in Windows and OS/2, including line draws, bit and pixel-block transfers, area fills, masking and X/Y addressing. Has an intelligent way to detect and co- exist with other XGA-2 cards, so multiple desktops like on the Mac may not be far away. Since this is an architecture, its resolution and color depth isn't fixed {IBM implements only 16-bit [65,536] color, while other companies can have 24-bit color through IBM technical licenses}. Refresh rates up to 75 Hz, ensures flicker free, rock solid images to reduce visual discomfort, and is VGA compatible. Up to 1280x1024 on OS/2. some monitor types usable by Mac-See Mac section above for specific details. Expansion Both Mac & IBM SCSI: only external device expansion interface common to both Mac and IBM. Allows the use of any device: hard drive, printer, scanner, Nubus card expansion {Mac Plus only}, some monitors, and CD-ROM. Main problem: there are a lot of external devices which are internal terminated which causes problems for more then two devises off the SCSI port {A SCSI chain is supposed to be terminated ONLY at the begining and at the end. Any other set up causes problems for either Mac or IBM}. SCSI-1: 7 devices per SCSI controller. 8-bit asynchronous {~1.5MB/s ave} and synchronous {5MB/s max} transfers. Difference is due to SCSI-1 software drivers. "Fast SCSI-1" is a misname for 8-bit SCSI-2 in SCSI-1 mode {see SCSI-2 for details}. SCSI-2: 10 devices per SCSI controller in SCSI-2 mode. SCSI-2 is fully SCSI-1 compliant and 8-bit SCSI-2 tends to be implemented as a very fast SCSI-1 since it does not require the different controller interfaces in hardware and software that 16 and 32-bit SCSI-2 do. Transfer speeds are 4-6MB/s with 10MB/s burst {8-bit}, 8-12MB/s with 20MB/s burst {16-bit}, and 15-20MB/s with 40MB/s burst {32-bit/wide and fast}. Since 8-bit SCSI-2 can use SCSI-1 software drivers and hardware at 8-bit SCSI-2 speeds and as such is limited to 7 devices sometimes it is mistakenly called "fast SCSI-1". 16-bit fast SCSI-2 requires a SCSI-2 software driver and SCSI-2 electronics but can still use the SCSI-1 ports. Wide 16-bit and 32-bit SCSI-2 require a different SCSI port, electronics, and software driver from SCSI-1 {Which makes them more expensive than other SCSI interfaces}. Mac SCSI: asynchronous SCSI-1 built-in standard since the Plus. Even though Apple developed some specifications for SCSI controlers, the OS SCSI Manager needs to be rewritten to take full advantage of the features of both SCSI interfaces. As a result present SCSI-2 Macs use 8-bit SCSI-2 as a fast asynchronous SCSI-1. Presently Quadras are the only Macs with a SCSI-2 controller chip built-in (Digital Review, Oct 21, 1991 v8 n33 p8(1)) though they lack some other parts of the hardware, like the wide SCSI-2 port interface. Since other Macs require a NuBus card to use SCSI-2, older NuBus Macs had a bottleneck due to the speed of the NuBus and CPU. Rumor-some Cyclone Macs {June} will come with a wide & fast SCSI-2 port standard and have a rewritten OS SCSI manager. IBM SCSI: SCSI-1 is not too wide spread yet, generally not bundled with systems, except as add-on {EISA and VESA Local Bus adapters avalable}. Like the Mac, 8-bit SCSI-2 is used as a very fast SCSI-1 by most controllers out there. Unlike the Mac, IBM has no exact SCSI controller specifications which results in added incompatibilities for SCSI. Mac Memory expansion: with a few exceptions the Mac has used non-parity 30-pin 8-bit SIMM memory expansion since the Plus. While 32-pin 9-bit parity SIMMs could be used in these Macs, only special IIcis could make use of the parity feature {By convension both SIMM types are called 32-pin SIMMs}. The IIfx used 64-pin parity SIMMs. The LC III, C610/650 and Q800 all use a new 72-pin SIMM that is accessable by 32-bits at a time and is used in IBMs. The Mac does a complete memory check at startup by writing/reading every memory location; if something is seriously wrong with a SIMM the Mac will not boot and give a sound chord indicating what the problem is. Since Macs made before Feb 15, 1993 managed memory baced on data path, SIMMs had to be installed in pairs {16-bit} or in sets of 4 {32-bit}. The Centris 650 and Quadra 800 eliminate this with a new memory management setup that allows memory to be upgraded one SIMM at a time. If the SIMMs are the same size are used then the memory is 'interleaved' across the two SIMMs resulting in a 10-15% performance boost on RAM access (MacWorld Apr 93: 108-109). Printers, ADBs, and modems: built-in interfaces standard. Monitor interface and sound input: built-in on most present macs. PDS: Available in SE & all present non-Powerbook Macs. 16-bit {SE, Portable, LC, LC II, Classic line} and 32-bit. Operates at CPU's MHz. Maximum through put: data path in bytesCPU's MHz {Q700/900 & C650: 4 * 25Mhz = 100MB/s; Q800 & Q950: 4 * 33Mhz = 132MB/s}. Standardized with the LC and 040 bus designs. With an adapter one NuBus card can be used in IIsi and C610. Problem: some cards have timing dependency which slows through put down. NuBus Mac II: 32-bit, 10 MHz bus clock, 1-to-1 transaction/bus cycle ratio, and contiguous, hand-shake transactions at ~10-20MB/s; theoretical peak: 40MB/s. Built-in on all Modular Macs except the LC series, C610, and Performa 400. The SE/30 could be adapted to use this and there was even a Mac Plus SCSI NuBus. Supports every possible expansion from CPU to Ethernet to DMA. NuBus 90: NuBus Mac II back compatable. 20MHz bus clock, avg throughput: ~30MB/s; burst mode: 80MB/s. Future card designs will be 7" instead of the old 12". QuickRing: A peer-to-peer bus used in parallel with NuBus 90. Apple's VLBus - "Architecture is identical to that of VLBus" (Byte 10/92:128). Burst mode: 350MB/s (Byte 10/92:128). In development. CPU expansion: handled either through the PDS or the NuBus. Unlike PDS, Nubus CPU cards {example-Radius Rocket} allow use of multiple processors at the same time. This is like having two or more Macs in the same box able to dual task or joinly process depending on the card or software involved {Each NuBus card needs its own memory but most NuBus cards of this type come with 8MB RAM SIMMs on the card standard}. IBM Memory expansion: parity SIMMs, non-parity SIMMs {some newer models do a Mac- like SIMM memory check}, or a dozen or so different types of memory boards. HD Interfaces {limited to hard drives by design or lack of development}: MFM: Modified Frequency Modulation, RLL: Run Length Limited only used with smaller [² 60mb] hard drives. IDE: Integrated Device Electronics Asynchronous {~5MB/s max} and synchronous {8.3MB/s max} transfer. currently the most common standard, and is mainly used for medium sized drives. Can have more than one hard drive. ESDI: Enhanced Small Device Interface ~1.25MB/s throughput. generally considered better interface than SCSI-1 in many ways but not common enough for practical consideration. Outside of hard drives, device choices are very limited compared to SCSI-1. BUS interfaces {New 'plug and play' ISA and EISA compatable cards may have problems working with old cards (InfoWorld; PC Week 03/08/93; Vaporware 4/93).} ISA 8 & 16-bit interfaces common. Has 24-bit data path limit {which produces a 16MB limit for which there are software workarounds} (PC Mag 4/27/93:105). 1.5 MB/s (Byte 3/93:132). Uses edge-triggered interrupts, can't share them, hence comes the IRQ conflict. Limited busmastering capabilities, some cards aren't bandwidth limited {COM ports, LPT ports, game ports, MIDI card, etc.} while others are {video and disk controllers}. Dominant factor, but it's showing its age. Most ISA motherboard designs are 16-bit (PC World Feb 1993: 144-5)}. MCA {Micro Channel} IBM's 16 and 32-bit bus; "allows use of more than one CPU in a computer" (DCT) and anything can talk to anything, as fast as the two components involved can handle it. Never took off because it was incompatible with ISA and EISA. Planned to be bus interface of IBM PowerPC 601 (Carl Jabido). EISA {NuBus Mac II is closest Mac equivalent} 32-bit, 8.33 MHz, burst mode: 33MB/s. It also has the ability to self-configure cards like MCA and allows multiple bus masters, sharable interrupt and DMA channels and multiple CPU use. VESA Local Bus: VLB {Sometimes mistakenly refereed to as PDS} Local Bus standard. Runs at CPU clock rate, Burst modes: ~130 MB/s{32-bit} 250 MB/s{64-bit} (Byte 10/92:128). Limited to three slots but allows bus mastering and will coexist with either ISA or EISA. Consitered ideal for video and disk I/O. DELL has filled a claim that this violates one of their patents (Mel Martinez). QuickRing: Apple's faster {350 MB/s burst} version of VLB architecture (Byte 10/92:132). Might show up in some IBM and PowerPC machines (Byte 10/92:132-133). In development. PCI Intel's version of Local Bus that is intended to totally replace ISA/EISA/MCA. In development. OSes {assumes full installation [print drivers, fonts, Multifinder, etc.] and multiple application use.} Mac 512K to 1MB of OS and hardware commands have been put into ROM. This allows Apple to control its machine by putting key hooks for the Mac OS {QuickDraw, menu commands, print, mouse, SCSI & sound drivers, etc} in ROM, which require clone makers to use the ROM chip or read ROM on to disks {Which requires access to the proper Mac since different Macs have slightly different ROM chips; Plus vs Classic for example.} With key hooks for the OS support interface in ROM, programers do not have to worry as much whether the disk OS has the necessary hardware commands or that those commands are consitant and therefore can write smaller programs. This also allows Apple greater control over hardware-software standards and that the disk OS can be smaller and, with some of the tookbox command code in ROM, with lower RAM requirements then a totally disk based OS. Macs use Masked ROM which is as fast as DRAM (Jon Wtte). 6.0.7: Single program usage base requirements: 1 MB and DD floppy, cooperatively-multitasking base requirements: 2MB and HD floppy. Features a GUI, cooperative-multitasker [MultiFinder], standard program interface, & standard stereo sound support [snd]. Network receiving part of AppleShare software is bundled with the OS. Has a 8MB RAM barrier and is a 24-bit OS. Some third party products allow 14MB of Virtual Memory as long as real RAM is below 8MB. 6.0.8: 6.0.7 with 7.0.0 print drivers. 6.0.8L: System 6 for some Macs that require System 7.0.X. 7.0.X: Base requirements: 2MB, 40MB Hard Drive, and 68000; De-facto standard to run all features well: 4MB, 80MB Hard Drive, and 68030 {lowest present non-portable Mac configuration}. Using up to 10.08MB {This is EVERYTHING on system disks} of hard disk space this has 6.0.7 features plus program linking within and between computers [IAC], built-in server capabilities {Filesharing can be used by older OSes using AppleShare Client software and can be accessed by 10 macs max; 4-5 is more speed practical, IAC requires 7.X}, Virtual Memory in machines with MMU{1.6 times real RAM for least noticeable IIsi speed degradation}, drag and drop, QuickTime & built-in TrueType support. Supports sound input [AIFF and snd formats] for most present machines. Can access up to 1GB of true RAM and 4GB of virtual memory and is both a 24 and 32-bit OS. To use real RAM beyond 8MB it must be in 32-bit mode and on older machines requires the 'Mode 32' extension. Apple's last 'free' OS. 7.1.0: 7.0.1 with WorldScript support, speedier, and less RAM usage than 7.0.dot (MacWeek 8/24/92; 9/14/92; PC Week 9/7/92). To run in 32-bit mode on older machines it requires the 'Mode 32' or '32-Bit Enabler' extension. Marks the start of Apple saling its Mac OS instead of allowing free upgrades {Bundled with new machines, $49 for 7.0.X upgrades, $99 otherwise}. [The installer has a bug that when upgrading it may keep some old system fonts from the previous system inside the system file. This can eat up any RAM benefits and cause other problems. Apple itself recommends removing all fonts from the system file.] A/UX 3.0 [UNIX]: Needs 8MB RAM {12-20MB suggested}, 160MB hard drive, and a 68030 or 68040 equivalent to run. This 32-bit preemptive multitasking OS is large due to being UNIX and needing translators between it and the Mac ROMs. Price: $709. Note: sound output was supported in OSes 3.2 to 6.0.5 by many formats including the following: snd, WAVE, ASND, FSSD, QSSN, SMSD, SOUN, dc2d, and DCFL. In 6.0.7 the sound manager was optimized for the sound standards 'snd' and AIFF which causes some playback problems for the old formats, though most still play. IBM Machiness have little GUI code, data, and hooks present in hardware for programmers to work with, so most of the coding must be provided in the OS. Since hard disks were slow the disk OS code is read into RAM. In addition, what little ROM code there is also read into RAM {a process called Shadow ROM} This results in faster implementation since RAM is faster then PROMS or EPROMS. Having most of the OS code on disk has the advantage of being able to better optimize the code given a certain piece or collection of hardware which is harder with a ROM based system due to the 'patches' needed. In addition it reduces the need for and size of patches if a major revision of the hardware support is needed. Side note: The FTC charged that MicroSoft formed a OS trust by not providing all feature documentation for its OSes to developers outside MS and designing its Windows and DOS apps to fail under OS/2 ("Undocumented Windows") and "There is deliberate code in [Windows] NT Beta which causes the install to abort if OS/2 Boot Manager is present" (Gregory Hicks, Info-IBMPC Digest V92 #201). Due to a conflict of intrest by one member the vote of the FTC judicial council for action against Microsoft was a tie which resulted in no action. Rumors-the FTC will presue the matter, likely to the point of choosing a new member or whole new council. In addition the government has turned down Microsoft's copyright of "Windows" which would allow it to charge a fee for developers using their hooks (PC Week 03/08/93). MicroSoft OSes DOS 5.0: Has a 640K barrier with its own memory manager, a 1 MB barrier with third party memory managers. This 16-bit OS requires that each program must provide its own print drivers and be 16-bit {Programs need to be DOS Protected Mode Interface (DPMI) compliant and running on a 386dx [32-bit Protected Mode] to break these barriers}. Contains the GUI shell present in DOS 4.0. DOS 6.0: DOS 5.0 with the added features of a built-in file compresion, disk defragmenter, debugger for the CONFIG.SYS file. It needs a $80 module for networking {Cost: $50 through 5/93, after that $129.99} (Byte April 1993:44-46). DOS 7.0: 32-bit DOS. In development (PC Week 04/05/93). Window 3.0: Runs on top of DOS. Breaks 640K and 1M barriers but still has to deal with DOS file structure. Base requirements: 1MB, floppy and 286; to run well 2MB, hard drive, 386sx and fast display adapter {> 8-bit}. Has the equivalent of Mac's QD called Windows GDI [Graphics Device Interface]. This does not have a consistent application interface {Like early Mac programs (1984-1985)} nor a very large program base {compared to DOS} and still tends to slow the machine down (Info-IBMPC Digest V92 #186) with speed is more dependent on the display adapter then on the CPU (Bill Coleman). Window programs tend to be disk and memory hogs compared to their DOS counterparts (Byte April 1993:98-108). Window 3.1: A faster version of Window 3.0 with better memory managment. Base requirements 1 MB, hard drive and a 286 ;to run well 2MB, hard drive, 386sx. Apple plans to release its print drivers for this (PC Week 12/28/92). Windows for Workgroups: To run well: 4MB RAM and 386dx (PC World Feb/93:160). Intermediary between Win 3.1 and Windows NT. It is basically Windows 3.1 with built-in peer to peer networking support. Windows NT: Beta release takes about 50MB of disk space [including the swap file], and 12MB RAM {Betas are notorious for RAM usage especially in the interaction between debuging code and program compliers, hence the reports of 24MB requirements}. Released version supposed to need 8MB RAM but, Gates himself now recommends 16MB RAM (PC Week 04/15/92). This 32-bit OS has Protected mode multitasking, multithreading, symmetric multiprocessing, a recoverable file system, and 32-bit GDI. Has built in networking that is OSF DCE compliant and can handle up to 4GB of RAM. Even though some people see a July 4 release date (InfoWorld Nov 16/92), rumor is that the final version will not be available before Oct 1993 (InfoWorld May 25/92; July 6/92; Vaporware 07/92; 08/92) or 4th quarter 1993 (PC Week 09/28/92). Windows upgrades will be $295, otherwise $495 (PC Week 04/15/92; 03/15/93). Other OSes PC-DOS 6.0: IBM's version of DOS 6.0. It runs Windows much faster then DOS 6.0 due to faster file I/O and video handling (InfoWorld Feb 1, 93). DR DOS 6.0: same as DOS 5.0 with some extras {like built-in data compression} and memory management enhancements. Still has 640K/1MB barrier. A later version {Novell DOS} of this may use a version of the Mac finder and Apple file management system (PC Week 12/14/92; InfoWorld Dec 14/92). OS/2 2.0: Unix like features and unix like requirements; 8-16MB RAM, 60MB {uses 17-33MB} hard drive, and 386dx CPU. This 32-bit multithreaded, multitasking OS can address up to 4GB of RAM but has to use a fast swap file to use more than 16 MB RAM on ISA systems using DMA {Direct Memory Access}. IBM plans to use Taligent's OOPS in future versions of this (InfoWorld Oct 26/92). AIX: IBM's UNIX system, planned to be a subset of PowerOpen and Taligent OS. NeXTStep: GUI UNIX to provide NeXT features on IBM machines. Beta out, final version to be out by May 25, 1993. Solaris OS for x86: a SunSoft port. A 32-bit OS with symmetric multiprocessing and multithreading, built-in networking capabilities with tools to allow remote configuring and adminstration features, and communication package. Client: $795, 50 users server: $1,995, 1000s users server: $5,995. Developer kits-software: $495, hardware: $195. Mac 7.1 [working name: Star Trek]: Apple had System 7.0 running off Intel Chips and is looking at making a 7.1 version available for IBM (ComputerWorld Nov 2/92; MacWeek 03/22/93). At present this is planned to run on top of Novell's DR DOS, require a 486 or equivalent to run and that apps will need to be recompiled (MacWeek 03/22/93). Viewed as Novell's answer to Windows NT. The complexity of PC hardware set ups is one reason for slow progress {This seems to Apple/IBM's way of leading to the PowerPC line out in late 1993/early 1994 and Pink OS in late 1994-early 1995.} PowerPC Rumor-IBM will build its PowerPC 601 by late 1993 (InfoWorld June 8 & 15, 92; MacWeek 7/13/92; PC Week 3/15/93). It will have MicroChannel bus and XGA video (Carl B Jabido), and will run native version AIX and Mac apps (PC Week 3/15/93); there have been no comments on compatablity of DOS or Windows apps. Apple's PowerPC 601 machine {Tesseract} is planned to be out Jan 24, 1994 and to have MC98601/50 MHz, 4/8MB RAM, a 2.8-Mbyte floppy drive and expected to sale near LC line prices {~$2000, down from projections of ~$3000 (MacUser 9/92:146)} (MacWeek 3/22/93). PowerOpen [A/UX 4.0]: A 32-bit preemtive multitasking OS planned to run on PowerPCs and 68030/40 Macs (MacWeek 7/13/92). Intel compatibility uncertain (See Mac 7.1 above). Planned base requirements: 68030, 8MB RAM, 80MB hard drive (MacWeek 4/19/93). Rumor-ahead of schedule; COULD be out by mid 1993. Rumor-this could be the OS for IBM's PowerPC 601 which is due by late 1993. Pink [Taligent OS]: Expecting delivery in 1994 (Wall Street Journal 1/12/92) and may have some parts shipping in OS/2 and AIX in 1993 and Mac OS and PowerOpen with the PowerPCs (MacWeek 01/25/93). Windows NT: Possible port (MacWeek 04/05/93). See IBM OS section for details. Solaris OS: Version of this Sun Microsystems Inc UNIX OS to run on the Power PCs in 1994 (MacWeek 04/05/93). One of the few OSes to directly state that it will run Windows/DOS programs. IBM OS section for details NeXTStep: possible port see IBM OS section for details. OS Number Crunching (Mel Park) Mac Arithmetic is done in a consistent numerical environment {SANE or Standard Apple Numerics Environment}. Floating point numbers are 96 bits long when an FPU is present and 80 bits otherwise. Exceptions, such as dividing by zero or taking the square root of a negative number, do not cause an abort but are handled in a logically consistent manner. 1/0 produces the internal representation for infinity (INF). 1/(1/0) produces zero. The above treatment of 1/(1/0) occurs in an FPU-equipped machine even when SANE is bypassed and the FPU programmed directly. IBM Floating point numbers are 80-bits with a hardware FPU, 64-bits when emulated. The way they are handled is dependent on the coding of whatever compiler or assembler was used for a program. On older DOS complilers exceptions could cause program aborts; 1/0 and 1/(1/0) would abort to the DOS prompt at the point where they occured. Most present compilers handle this better. Result: there is little consistent handling of numbers between DOS, Windows and OS/2 programs nor between programs for just one OS. Networking [Includes printing] WYSIWYG printing can be a problem with either Mac of IBM machines especially if one sends TrueType fonts to a older style PostScript printer. Mac Hardware: Built-in LocalTalk network port and a built-in printer port. LocalTalk has moderate speeds (230.4 Kb/s) requires special connectors for each machine ($15 and up) and can be run off of either the printer port {to include very old macs} or the network port {standard today}. Built-in Ethernet is becoming common but many older Macs require a PDS or Nubus card at about $150-$300 for each machine. These cards provide three connectors and transceivers {thick, thin, and 10BaseT} for Ethernet. The Macintosh Quadra family and some Centris models includes Ethernet interface on motherboard, with transceivers available. TokenRing has been a network option since 1989. Software: AppleTalk {the suite of protocols} standard with Mac OS, which can use variety of media types. AppleShare client software included with the OS as well and can connect to file servers such as Novell Netware, 3Com 3+Open, Banyan Vines, DEC Pathworks, Apple's AppleShare servers, System 7 File Sharing machines, and AFP servers running on variety of UNIX hosts. MacTCP allows typical TCP/IP communications (telnet, ftp, NFS, rlogin). A later version will have Unix X/Open Transport Interface (XTI) built-in by the end of 1993 (MacWeek 04/12/93). Third-party software to connect to NFS servers. DEC Pathworks provides DECnet support. Peer-to-peer file sharing software built-in to System 7.1 (See OS section). Full server software is extra. Printing requires connection of the printer and the printer being selected in the chooser. Changing printers is by selecting a different name in the chooser. The same is true of connecting to servers. Printing bugs: Monaco TrueType font is different then the screen bitmap font. {QuickDraw QX is suppossed to fix this and similar problems.} IBM Hardware: LocalTalk [not widely used], Ethernet, and TokenRing. Software: Novell Netware, Banyan Vines, DECNet, Windows/Work Groups, AppleTalk protocols, and AppleShare {subset of AppleTalk}. Each of the MS-DOS networking schemes are, in general, totally incompatible with the others. Once you have chosen one, you are pretty much locked-in to that product line from then on. Windows/Work Groups is a little more forgiving and removes some of this problem. Novell Netware is the biggest, {~80 percent of the corporate market.} and in general is more powerful and offers better control/management/security than AppleShare, but it's also more complex to set up and manage. This will change due to the use of the Mac finder and file management system by Novell. (PC Week 12/14/92 & 12/28/92; InfoWorld Dec 14/92; MacWeek 3/22/93) Printing {Very OS dependent} DOS: If it's a single user, then you plug the printer into the parallel port, and don't worry about it {Tweeking may be needed with poorly written software}. Network Printing is not controlled by the system, but is mostly implemented by the actual program, therefore performance varies from one software program to the next. Windows 3.x: supports standard drivers and can do a good job of showing "jobs" in the print queue, but it always lists printers as "active"... even if they are not. This becomes a problem if there are several incompatible printers on the same net, because there's no way for software to reliably determine which printer is active right now. Windows for Workgroups is more Mac-like and intelligent about this. OS/2: Mac-like; the os deals with printers, with apps making calls to the OS. Printing bugs: due to poor programing some programs for all the above OSes do not have WYSIWYG printing. This is the fault of the programs in question and not that of the OS involved. Price issue: This is very dynamic with Mac providing more build-in features than IBM and IBM being more 'get only what you need' then Mac and price wars by both worlds. The IBM machines' modualar nature prevents any kind of true hardware standarization, which in turn requires OSes and programs to be very complex to handle ALL the variation in hardware. When one adds all the standard Mac hardware features to an IBM {built-in input/output sound support, SCSI, PDS, built-in monitor support, built-in networking, standard mouse interface, and NuBus 90 in higher machines} the Mac tends to be cheaper then an equivalent equipted IBM machine {Especially since some IBM monitors can be used with Macs which cuts some more of the Mac's cost (MacUser Aug 1992:158-176)}. Some prices using some of the info in this sheet and MacUser April 1993. All Macs below come with a PDS slot, VRAM, and SCSI-1 built in. Except where noted, monitor is extra and a built-in monitor interface is provided {no card needed except for 24-bit color display}. IBM planned a $1,200 386SLC/25MHz model with a 60MB hard drive and color VGA monitor {~VRAM} (MacWeek 8/17/92) {sounds like a Color Classic without SCSI-1, sound support, built-in network support, FPU socket, built-in expansion to 16-bit color, etc}. Color Classic: $1,389 - 030/16MHz with 16-bit data bus {~386sx/20MHz equivalent}, 4/80, FPU socket, and built-in monitor. LCIII: $1,499 - 030/25MHz {~386dx/33MHz equivalent}, and 4/160. Centris 610: $2,899 - 68LC040/20MHz {Depending on the program ~486sx/40 or ~'486dx2sx'/20[40]MHz equivalent}, 8/230, built-in ethernet, 300i CD-ROM, a PDS/NuBus 90 slot and VRAM for 16-bit color. Centris 650: 040/25MHz {Depending on the program ~486dx/50 MHz or 486dx2/50 MHz equivalent} with a PDS and 3 NuBus 90 slots. $3,189 {ethernet, 8/80}; $3,559 {ethernet, 8/230}; $3,999 {ethernet, 8/230, CD-ROM, VRAM for 16-bit color} Bibliography notes 'Vaporware' is available in the digest/vapor directory by FTP on sumex- aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6] and was by Murphy Sewall {last issue: April 93.} 'Info-IBMPC Digest' back issues are available from wsmr-simtel20.army.mil in directory PD2:<ARCHIVES.IBMPC> 'Dictionary of Computer Terms 3rd ed.' (ISBM 0-8120-4824-5) These are the facts as they were known to me on 4/15/93 and may be changed by new developments, announcements, or corrections. Corrections to the information are welcome. Please email corrections to CompuServe ID: 72130,3557 AOL: BruceG6069 Internet: bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu Final note: Since there is NO comp.sys.ibm.pc.advocacy group this has been posted to the closest relevent groups {comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy, comp.os.os2.advocacy, and comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc}. Also since some Mac vs IBM articles have been showing up in comp.sys.mac.hardware I have included that newsgroup in the posting. {Don't site the comp.sys.mac.* FAQ as a reason not to post to comp.sys.mac.hardware, since the FAQ itself does not follow internet guidelines, especially the de-facto "[all] the FAQs for a newgroup hierarchy should be posted to ALL newsgroups in the hierarchy" standard.} "Eliminate the impossible and what ever remains, no matter how improbable, is the truth" -- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle through Sherlock Holmes in The Adventure of the Beryl Coronet, The Adventure of the Blanched Soldier, Sign of Four and The Adventure of the Bruce-Partington Plans. "The Computer is your friend"--Parinoia RPG
7091	From: phil@howtek.MV.COM (Phil Hunt) Subject: What is a Rapid Tech SQUEEZE card? Organization: Howtek, Inc. Reply-To: phil@howtek.MV.COM (Phil Hunt) X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v2 Lines: 22 Hi, I am going through a box of old IBM card and came across one called a Rapid Technology SQUEEZE card. It is dated 1990 and has a 54mhz crystal on it and a big chip that has 'C-Cube' on it. No connectors to the outside, but a ribbon-type 50-pin connector on the board. It is a 16-bit board. Any ideas what it is? Phil -------------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Hunt "Wherever you go, there you are!" Howtek, Inc. Internet: phil@howtek.MV.COM uucp: {decvax\|harvard}!mv!howtek!phil
7092	From: drlovemd@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Steve Liu) Subject: Source for Deskwriter Ink Carts. Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu Could someone please e-mail or post a cheap source for ink carts for the HP Deskwriter? Original HP carts are preferred, but I will settle for third-party brands if they are of good quality. +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ /~~~~~~~\ \| \| \| _____/ \| \| \| \| \| +----\ \| \| \_____ \| \| \| TTTTTT EEEEE VV VV EEEEE \| \| \| TT EE VV VV EE \| /---/ \| TT EEEE VV VV EEEE \| Steve Liu \| \| \| TT EE VVV EE .. \| drlovemd@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu \| \|_________/ TT EEEEE V EEEEE .. \| drlovemd@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu \| +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
7093	From: erzberg@ifi.unizh.ch (Martin Erzberger) Subject: Re: Monitor for XGA News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers Lines: 12 Nntp-Posting-Host: sangria Reply-To: erzberg@ifi.unizh.ch (Martin Erzberger) Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science In <1993Apr15.211053.35792@watson.ibm.com> kaul@vnet.ibm.com writes: >my home Viewsonic 6. I like the Multisyncs because it's easy to run them >in modes like 800x600x64k colors noninterlaced, or at higher modes like >1360x1024x16. Oh yeah! I just got my new Eizo Flexscan yesterday (to replace my old 8515), and I tried it with 1360x1024. This mode is just great! I can get four perfectly readable command windows on the screen! And if I need more colors, I can go back to 1024x768 or even 800x600. One thing I am wondering though: Why isn't there a MONxxxx.DGS file which contains ALL the resolutions up to 1360x1024? Now I have to change the XGASETUP.PRO every time I want to switch, instead of simply going through the system settings of OS/2. Regards, Martin Erzberger
7094	From: janzen@lichen.mpr.ca (Martin Janzen) Subject: Re: how to put RPC in HP X/motif environment? Nntp-Posting-Host: lichen Reply-To: janzen@mprgate.mpr.ca Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd. Lines: 30 In article <C5r03J.Gu3@news2.cis.umn.edu>, ianhogg@milli.cs.umn.edu (Ian J. Hogg) writes: >In article <1993Apr19.200740.17615@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> nchan@nova.ctr.columbia.edu (Nui Chan) writes: >>has anybody implements an RPC server in the HP Xwindows? In SUN Xview, there >>is a notify_enable_rpc_svc() call that automatically executes the rpc processes >>when it detects an incoming request. I wonder if there is a similar function in >>HP X/motif that perform the same function. > >I've been using the xrpc package for about a year now. I believe I got it from >export. Glad to hear that it's working for you! I couldn't find it on "export". However, Simon Leinen <simon@liasun6.epfl.ch> has added an Imakefile and an Athena version, and made it available for FTP in the file liasun3.epfl.ch:/pub/X/contrib/xrpc.tar.z. (Note the ".z" suffix; you'll need GNU gzip -- also on liasun3 in /pub/gnu -- to uncompress it.) If this doesn't work, send me a note and I'd be happy to mail you a copy; but you probably won't get it until the start of May -- I'm on holidays as of tomorrow! :-) -- Martin Janzen janzen@mprgate.mpr.ca (134.87.131.13) MPR Teltech Ltd. 8999 Nelson Way Burnaby, BC, CANADA V5A 4B5 P.S. Are there any Dublin X folks that want to go for a pint of Guinness at, say, Mulligan's...?
7095	From: dvb@ssd.kodak.com (Dave Blaszyk) Subject: Re: If You Were Pat Burns ... Organization: Eastman Kodak Company, Rochester NY X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Lines: 30 Jason Cockroft (jake@rambler.Eng.Sun.COM) wrote: : What are the Leafs to do? I am a Leaf supporter and : I say the Leafs are going down in four unless there : is nothing short of a miracle or a stroke of genenius hits Root for another team. ;-) : Andreychuck and Borchevsky have no business playing against : the Wings. They are too small. The key to any Leafs success : will have to be Clark. He is the only centre who can have .. Andreychuk, is NOT small, slow and sloth-like, maybe, but he is about 6'4" and that is not what I would consider as small. As an aside, The big AndreyCHUNK as I call him has been known to disappear come playoff time. This was one of his main problems when playing for Buffalo. : GO LEAFS !!! GO SABRES !!! -- /-// \\-\Dave Blaszyk e-mail : dvb@snowmass.ssd.kodak.com /-//\ /\\-\(716) 253-7953 mail : Eastman Kodak ///d// \\v// \\b\\\ C Plant, Bldg. 10 MC 39011 \\\// \// \\/// Rochester, New York 14620
7096	From: wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith) Subject: Re: Radar detector DETECTORS? Organization: The John P. Robarts Research Institute, London, Ontario Distribution: na Nntp-Posting-Host: valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca Lines: 21 In article <1993Apr19.231050.2196@Rapnet.Sanders.Lockheed.Com> babb@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com (Scott Babb) writes: > >The Federal Communications Act of 1934 made it legal for you to >operate a radio receiver of any kind, on any frequency (including >X, K, and Ka bands) in the United States. The Electronic >Communications Privacy Act of 1989(?) restricted the FCA of 1934 >by making it illegal to receive the land-mobile telephone service, >including (I believe) cellular phones. Illegal to receive land-mobile telephone service? Don't you have to have a mobile reciever to even have land-mobile telephone service? What about ship-to-shore telephone service? >No restriction was placed >on receiving RADAR (or, curiously, cordless phones.) Enforcement >of the Virginia law is in violation of the FCA of 1934. Isin't there some kind of rule (regulation, law, whatever) in some juristictions that prohibit the use of police band recievers in vehicles? And that radar transmissions are included in the police band so they get covered by the same regulation?
7097	From: mangoe@cs.umd.edu (Charley Wingate) Subject: Re: Gospel Dating Lines: 48 >So then, you require the same amount of evidence to believe that I >a) own a pair of bluejeans and b) have superhuman powers? Well, I could use the argument that some here use about "nature" and claim that you cannot have superhuman powers because you are a human; superhuman powers are beyond what a human has, and since you are a human, any powers you have are not beyond those of a human. Hence, you cannot have superhuman powers. Sound good to you? Anyway, to the evidence question: it depends on the context. In this group, since you are posting from a american college site, I'm willing to take it as given that you have a pair of blue jeans. And, assuming there is some coherency in your position, I will take it as a given that you do not have superhuman powers. Arguments are evidence in themselves, in some respects. >When you say the "existence of [ sic ] Jesus", I assume that you >mean just the man, without any special powers, etc. Yep. >Many will agree that it is very possible that a man called Jesus DID >in fact live. In fact, I am willing to agree that there was some man named >Jesus. I have no reason to believe that there wasn't ever a man. Good. >However, most of the claims ARE extradinary: eg virgin birth >[ virgin in the sense of not having any sexual intercourse ], resurection, >Son of God, etc. THOSE claims require extra evidence. "Extra" evidence? Why don't we start with evidence at all? I cannot see any evidence for the V. B. which the cynics in this group would ever accept. As for the second, it is the foundation of the religion. Anyone who claims to have seen the risen Jesus (back in the 40 day period) is a believer, and therefore is discounted by those in this group; since these are all ancients anyway, one again to choose to dismiss the whole thing. The third is as much a metaphysical relationship as anything else-- even those who agree to it have argued at length over what it means, so again I don't see how evidence is possible. I thus interpret the "extraordinary claims" claim as a statement that the speaker will not accept any evidence on the matter. -- C. Wingate + "The peace of God, it is no peace, + but strife closed in the sod. mangoe@cs.umd.edu + Yet, brothers, pray for but one thing: tove!mangoe + the marv'lous peace of God."
7098	From: m88max@tdb.uu.se (Max Brante) Subject: VGA on atari monoitor ?? Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ. X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6] Lines: 11 Is it possible to connect a atari monochrome monitor to some kind of VGA card? If someone have done this please let me know how. Thanx __ __ _ _ l \ / l ___ ( \/ ) Max Brante m88max@tdb.uu.se l l l l l / _ \ \ / l l\_/l l( (_) l / \ Institutionen f\|r teknisk databehandling l_l l_l \__l_l(_/\_) Uppsala Universitet
7099	From: schroedj@cnsvax.uwec.edu Subject: ForSale 286 and Hard-drive Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire Lines: 17 Packer Bell 12MHZ 286 * 5 16bit expansion slots * 2 5.25" external drive bays (floppies) * 1 3.5" internal drive bay (hard-drive) * 1.44MB 3.5" floppy drive * 1MB of RAM $140 or Best offer (including shipping) Segate 32MB ST138N SCSI Hard-drive * Great shape * Controller * 32MB * 3.5" format $85 or best offer (including shipping)

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