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researcher2#9294: What about specifc tpu?
researcher2#9294: https://www.amazon.com/HP-R0W29A-Tesla-Graphic-Card/dp/B07PGY6QPT
Louis#0144: I did LM training for two years and I never needed more than like 20GB of VRAM since I used super computers for larger tests
Louis#0144: (which were infrequent)
kindiana#1016: $0.2/h... |
Louis#0144: no problem
bmk#1476: no strings attached?
Louis#0144: uToronto hands GPU time out like its candy
Louis#0144: Beluga
researcher2#9294: Louis makes a good point, depends on use case I think. If you're running this thing 24/7 for months, buying your own could be good. Otherwise cloud.
Louis#0144: tons and tons... |
Louis#0144: nonprofit will get priority
Louis#0144: but im sure its fine
Louis#0144: > Not ones we would care about though
@StellaAthena not sure what you mean?
bmk#1476: so i cant reliably get gpu time?
Louis#0144: uh I had a friend who had a startup and got a lot of time from stanford a few years back
Louis#0144: it ... |
Louis#0144: lambda labs offered me a partnership at one point
Louis#0144: The project fell through though
Louis#0144: It was a for profit project
Louis#0144: you might wanna contact them
Louis#0144: they do all CV tho
bmk#1476: look i dont need *that* much compute
Louis#0144: they wanna get into NLP last time I checked... |
Louis#0144: I would do a rack of 1080tis
Louis#0144: lol
Louis#0144: theyre cheap and easily replacable
Louis#0144: dont go for the newest stuff
Louis#0144: I have a server rack of like 6 GPUs in my basement
Louis#0144: I got them super cheap
Louis#0144: with the money you would spend on 3090s
kindiana#1016: 10 and 20 ... |
Louis#0144: put it in a sound proof room
Louis#0144: ez
Louis#0144: Also
Louis#0144: loud fans are cheaper
Louis#0144: get cheap loud fans
bmk#1476: please i just need a recommendation for motherboard
Louis#0144: dual socket imo
Louis#0144: tons of PCIE lanes
Louis#0144: get cheap old xeons
kindiana#1016: theres no mot... |
Louis#0144: loud as fuck but once again who cares
bmk#1476: cant fit a 3090
Louis#0144: sure it can
Louis#0144: those 2 slot plates are removable
bmk#1476: oh
Louis#0144: or you can run a water loop
Louis#0144: this is one of the situations where a water loop actually makes sense in enterprise
bmk#1476: this is going i... |
Louis#0144: you are gonna want redundent power for something at this scale
Louis#0144: and youre gonna want dual CPU
Louis#0144: you cant get that at the consumer level
bmk#1476: i dont need redundant power
bmk#1476: i checkpoint often
Louis#0144: whats the TDP of a 3090?
bmk#1476: and i dont need dual cpu
Louis#0144: ... |
Louis#0144: the GPUs alone are 350 each
Louis#0144: the CPU is 180
Louis#0144: mobo is probably 10 - 15
bmk#1476: https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-750-g-120-gp-0750-x1-2000w/p/1HU-00J7-006T1?Description=2000w%20power%20supply&cm_re=2000w_power%20supply-_-9SIAHT8BHT5519-_-Product
bmk#1476: ok 2000w
Louis#0144: stor... |
Louis#0144: lets say you needed to leave something training for a month
Louis#0144: youd want ecc
Louis#0144: lol
Louis#0144: ive been fucked by bitflips
bmk#1476: thats not necessary i checkpoint often
Louis#0144: it sucks
Louis#0144: at the end of the day its more pcie lanes for cheaper than a threadripper
Louis#0144... |
Louis#0144: @bmk server PSUs are pretty cheap if you know where to look
Louis#0144: even 2000w
bmk#1476: where do i look
researcher2#9294: how many amps can you pull from a household circuit?
researcher2#9294: getting up there now
Louis#0144: oh fuck
Louis#0144: actually
Louis#0144: thats true
Louis#0144: you might nee... |
Louis#0144: :^)
bmk#1476: i dont have a yard
Louis#0144: thermal throttling is gonna be a serious issue
bmk#1476: this is alberta
Louis#0144: also you should let your city know, they look for people cooking meth by photographing their roof during the winter
Louis#0144: dont know anyone whos had police show up with a wa... |
Louis#0144: LOL
bmk#1476: look
researcher2#9294: make a video with Linus
researcher2#9294: profit
Louis#0144: use your computer as the condenser
bmk#1476: i think we're slightly past the point of useful suggestions at this point
Louis#0144: :^)
Louis#0144: ok but the duct idea is legit a good recommendation
Louis#0144:... |
bmk#1476: how cold does it get there anyways
Louis#0144: pfft
Louis#0144: it was like -10C or so?
Louis#0144: p cold
bmk#1476: thats nothing
researcher2#9294: Not going to make any more suggestions. Now questions for louis, any advantages to having all in 1 motherboard vs distributed?
bmk#1476: -10 is not cold
Louis#01... |
Louis#0144: dataset*
researcher2#9294: I will get to understanding of scaling soon hopefully. Just got my code working on 1 gpu, next is distributed. Working with pytorch btw. Next step is pytorch distributed, but I see facebook using slurm in their code too?
Louis#0144: look into super computer schedulers
researcher2#... |
Louis#0144: ya
Louis#0144: CRON is the idea that tasks are small enough that you can basically rely on the scheduler linux directly provides
Louis#0144: unlike SLURM
researcher2#9294: most of my distributed stuff has been sockets, but using existing linux stuff would be much faster (to develop)
Louis#0144: which is its... |
Louis#0144: with CRON you need to know the exact set of instructions that are going to occur
Louis#0144: and you schedule them at fixed intervals
Louis#0144: idk if Im explaining this well
researcher2#9294: I think I get a general idea
researcher2#9294: if you have a github with this it would complete the picture
resea... |
Louis#0144: do not use CRON for anything stochastic
Louis#0144: at all
Louis#0144: use CRON for traveling sales man
Louis#0144: or linear programming stuff
Louis#0144: where you need to update a portfolio at fixed intervals
Louis#0144: things like that
researcher2#9294: tbh, it would actually work as long as your setup... |
Louis#0144: well like not all of them
Louis#0144: what a fucking joke
researcher2#9294: wtf is going on there, I bought the stonks after crash
Louis#0144: its a mess
researcher2#9294: after second crash
Louis#0144: they dont know how to compete with AMD
researcher2#9294: (7nm)
Louis#0144: and bob swan
Louis#0144: has h... |
Louis#0144: they need to focus on budget
Louis#0144: theyve lost the enthusiast market
Louis#0144: they have almost zero chance to come back
Louis#0144: all the fabs are denying them contracts
Louis#0144: and they cant get their own fabs up
Louis#0144: its a mess
researcher2#9294: 😒
Louis#0144: as it stands right now ... |
Louis#0144: at that point AMD will be past 7nm....
Louis#0144: they might be at 5 by then
Louis#0144: I think their 5nm fabs go up in 2024
Louis#0144: lol
Louis#0144: last time I checked
researcher2#9294: Surely this isn't just a ceo issue?
Louis#0144: no
researcher2#9294: are they brain draining or something?
Louis#01... |
bmk#1476: intel enthusiast chips suck
Louis#0144: they do!!
Louis#0144: thats part of the issue
bmk#1476: so idk what you mean
bmk#1476: if theyre focussing on enthusiasts too much im not feeling it
Louis#0144: intel enthusiast chips have fallen behind because for so long they had zero competition
Louis#0144: so now th... |
Louis#0144: focus on super low power
Louis#0144: that would fix this a lot
Louis#0144: thats what AMD did back in 2004-2015
Louis#0144: maybe in a decade they can come back who knows
Louis#0144: but if they brute force enthusiast hardware theyre going to hemorrhage money
Louis#0144: oh and swan needs to step down
Louis... |
asparagui#6391: must have misread things
Louis#0144: I like both CRON and SLURM
Louis#0144: they’re both good
Louis#0144: Both have their benefits
Louis#0144: I use SLURM for DL stuff when needed
Louis#0144: I use CRON for when I need to distribute lots of interrupts
Louis#0144: Not that useful for the kind of stuff I ... |
Louis#0144: It’s good for updating portfolios in real time
Louis#0144: It’s good for GPS stuff
Louis#0144: It’s good for operations optimization (like manufacturing plants)
Louis#0144: Anything that needs to be real-time
Louis#0144: A thing to note is that CRON tasks can be skipped and timing can dynamically change
_ha... |
Sid#2121: I'd never heard of that specific corpus but I'd wager we could provide you with *many* more books hah
Sid#2121: but we err on the line of legality, slightly
Liminal_Warmth#8151: Smart
Liminal_Warmth#8151: Isn't the smashwords corpus legal though?
Louis#0144: all corpi are legal
Liminal_Warmth#8151: It's obtai... |
Louis#0144: you can even show copywritten content to turkers
Liminal_Warmth#8151: hmm interesting
Liminal_Warmth#8151: that's useful and encouraging
Sid#2121: I'm pretty sure there's no precedent though is there @Louis
Louis#0144: yeah, we get to use harry potter for research with no fear of legal ramifications
Liminal... |
Sid#2121: I'm not sure if we can easily divide out fiction or not unfortunately
Louis#0144: which Ive done before
Louis#0144: :^)
Louis#0144: luckily the company was cool about it
Liminal_Warmth#8151: If you guys CAN parse out the fiction I'd appreciate it. I'm assembling as big of a set as I can from available sources... |
Louis#0144: 😛
Louis#0144: narratologist in training*
Liminal_Warmth#8151: I want the data to be published quality (or at least independently published quality) to improve the outcomes since I'd like to make this available to working authors who will want well-edited text and minimal spelling/grammar errors coming out
... |
Daj#7482: Guess it depends on how big of data you want
Louis#0144: I have a much bigger dataset of short stories on my computer
Louis#0144: 4.6 GB
Louis#0144: close to 16k short stories
Louis#0144: theyre all good quality
Liminal_Warmth#8151: I'm also trying to figure out if I'm better off training a super-large divers... |
Liminal_Warmth#8151: (Also I really appreciate your guys' advice, I'm pretty new to ML)
Louis#0144: LMs get stomped when it comes to story generation
Louis#0144: it isnt even a close comparison
Louis#0144: you basically are required to use symbolic or neuro symbolic
Daj#7482: I don't think longer or shorter books make ... |
Louis#0144: lmao
Louis#0144: I will fight tooth and nail over this
Louis#0144: Ive been doing this for almost 9 yrs
Daj#7482: I...don't care that much lol
Louis#0144: Just started grad school on this specific topic
Daj#7482: GPT2 is probably the best open LM model @Liminal_Warmth
Sid#2121: @Louis interested in this rul... |
Sid#2121: with colab notebooks, hopefully
Louis#0144: https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.03762
Liminal_Warmth#8151: haha that would be awesome
Sid#2121: I think it's still to be seen at what number of parameters finetuning becomes pointless and prompt engineering becomes the way to do things
Daj#7482: fwiw I've worked with a c... |
@Daj it does work lol!!
Daj#7482: Though tbh you should mostly just use Hugging Dave's stuff lol
Louis#0144: but it isnt autogen... Stuff like Dungeons2DQN takes the pre-existing story, constructs a world state variable, and then suggests the next event
Sid#2121: it's just slow 😦
Daj#7482: > @Daj it does work lol!!
@S... |
@Louis This is cool... where can I read more about this?
Louis#0144: Soon, the final paper comes out rly soon
Louis#0144: in like a few days
Louis#0144: lol
Liminal_Warmth#8151: Please send the link when you can!
Sid#2121: collaborative writing > autogen @Louis
Liminal_Warmth#8151: I'd love to read that
Louis#0144: kk
... |
Louis#0144: not me
StellaAthena#3530: Nice
Louis#0144: thats my advisor
Liminal_Warmth#8151: ooh thanks for sharing! I'll watch this now
StellaAthena#3530: @Louis do your have access to a data set of text from text games?
Louis#0144: yes
Louis#0144: uh
Louis#0144: I might be able to send it to u
Louis#0144: but I doubt... |
StellaAthena#3530: Data is not a bottleneck
NB-21#6298: What's the main bottleneck with existing datasets then?
Louis#0144: developers
Louis#0144: lol
NB-21#6298: Makes sense
shawwn#3694: > The most powerful aspect of GPT-3 I've seen is that if you feed it 1000 words and ask for 10-30 more it retains both the writing s... |
Liminal_Warmth#8151: but not ideal
shawwn#3694: If you want to run the sampler, you can do so like:
```
git clone https://github.com/shawwn/gpt-2
cd gpt-2
git checkout stream-tokens
python3 download_model.py 117M
python3 src/generate_samples.py
```
and it'll start spitting out a rolling context window https://cdn.dis... |
Daj#7482: Yep
Liminal_Warmth#8151: But I had a tech savvy author tell me he got a decent model working in Google cloud with about 10 hours of training for $40
Daj#7482: Yea that sounds about right
Liminal_Warmth#8151: That's totally worth it 😄
Daj#7482: You can get a pretty high end GPU for that price
Liminal_Warmth#8... |
Sid#2121: you get assigned a GPU pretty much at random. there's P100s, some other ones, and V100s
Sid#2121: the V100s are pretty speedy
Louis#0144: You can combine your LM with some persistent knowledge base
Louis#0144: there’s a ton of papers on doing that with BERT
Louis#0144: Basically once you hit the maximum of yo... |
researcher2#9294: Not that I plan on shuffling GPUs, but it's nice to not have to ever worry
researcher2#9294: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/729741769738158194/751648676035821568/unknown.png
researcher2#9294: This confuses me because I've never had to move the optimizer to a device before with single gpu?
res... |
Sid#2121: `A little earlier this month, a friend emailed me to tell me she'd got a panic attack after playing a D&D session via the internet.`
Sid#2121: ```
This author knows what it's like to have an online session where people eat your face and play with dolls and league tables.``` is this what d&d is lol?
Sid#2121: ... |
Noa Nabeshima#0290: So then 90%, 100%, 50% all follow
Noa Nabeshima#0290: GPT-3 is not a very high percentage LGI because there are straightforward questions you can ask that make sense in context that it has trouble answering. But it is higher than 1%.
Noa Nabeshima#0290: It's ambiguous to what extent the definition i... |
Liminal_Warmth#8151: But I'm surprised it would struggle so much with requests post-training which is what I would think the really resource intensive period would be
WAUthethird#4977: Inference is less intensive than training
StellaAthena#3530: Inference is a lot less intensive than training
StellaAthena#3530: If you ... |
kindiana#1016: with an efficient implementation you should be able to generate 1000s of tokens per second, assuming sufficient batching
Liminal_Warmth#8151: then my next question is how many parallel threads can it do 😄
gwern#1782: (but isn't that conditional on the size of the prefix? a full 1023 BPE token prefix wil... |
Liminal_Warmth#8151: But hope to go start experimenting soon
Liminal_Warmth#8151: I just wondered if anyone happened to have tried to do this already and had a ballpark idea of load
Liminal_Warmth#8151: But yes, that makes a lot of sense thank you
gwern#1782: just benchmark the worst-case of completing 1024 tokens and ... |
ethan caballero#6044: Was GPT-2 trained on more (relatively clean) data than any language model ever trained at the time?
Aran Komatsuzaki#5714: I'm not really sure, but if you take into account the amount of clean data and the size of the model together, then GPT-2 definitely was the best atm.
bmk#1476: Ranking moe al... |
Louis#0144: I think dense is anything thats multi-partite
Louis#0144: but multi-partite NNs can be made nondense via local competition
kindiana#1016: at gpt3+ scale the actual softmax(qk) operation doesn't consume very many flops compared to the feedforwards, so I'd totally classify local attn as dense
kindiana#1016: f... |
Louis#0144: And your earlier def is my latter def
Louis#0144: In which case wtf
Louis#0144: I don’t think sparsity wrt softmax has anything to do with FLOPs
Louis#0144: Or you can’t inherently say a network is dense by saying it doesn’t use many FLOPs for softmax
kindiana#1016: if most of the flops in a network are fr... |
rook#2597: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/729741769738158194/753116586717741126/IMG_20181216_150704-EFFECTS.jpg
ethan caballero#6044: Approximately how many bpe tokens is a KB of text?
kindiana#1016: ~250
ethan caballero#6044: @kindiana is that for compressed or uncompressed KB of text?
kindiana#1016: uncompre... |
kindiana#1016: I'm not sure if twitter is particularly high quality, given tweet length limitations lol
kindiana#1016: its the "Spritzer" stream, about 1% of all tweets
ub8697#3037: Ah okay - random subset or "top" 1%? Guessing random since it's streaming?
kindiana#1016: think its random
kindiana#1016: meant to be 1% o... |
Daj#7482: The truth is we don't know how GPT works, or NNs in general (some brave souls in #interpretability are trying to shed some light)
genai (Immortal Discoveries)#0601: Yes, the Clarity Team, like OpenAI's hehe 🙂
Daj#7482: We're basically budget OpenAI yes lol
kindiana#1016: intuitively that example is something... |
Sid#2121: that said, there are several interesting ways to visualize how the multihead attention works and selects options - https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/AcKRB8wDpdaN6v6ru/interpreting-gpt-the-logit-lens
Sid#2121: https://aletheap.github.io/posts/2020/07/looking-for-grammar/
genai (Immortal Discoveries)#0601: so tha... |
genai (Immortal Discoveries)#0601: Have yous heard of Blender and PPLM?
Sid#2121: Blender as in the 3d modelling software?
genai (Immortal Discoveries)#0601: no, it's essentially GPT but smarter, as far as i can see
Sid#2121: link?
genai (Immortal Discoveries)#0601: 1 sec
genai (Immortal Discoveries)#0601: see the seco... |
Louis#0144: But from more of a cog neuro perspective
Louis#0144: If anyone has questions
bmk#1476: > I imagine twitter would get a little upset about this though haha
@researcher2 *mumbles* not the most illegal thing
Eddh👽#7290: Interesting. Do you have a link @Louis ?
Louis#0144: https://www.louiscastricato.com/post/... |
Louis#0144: the GPL twitter thing
gwern#1782: yeah, people have been using it for irc bots because it doesn't make it a nightmare to get the title/text and twitter keeps breaking things
gwern#1782: I hadn't heard of it until a few months ago tho
Louis#0144: hes a good friend of mine
Louis#0144: the person who made that... |
StellaAthena#3530: Ubuntu IRC is in the data set, yes
StellaAthena#3530: Here are some other IRC links from #data-sources https://github.com/ckan/irc-logs/blob/master/ckan_freenode_irc_logs_2014-2018.log.gz
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/
https://ghostscript.com/irclogs/
https://irclogs.thegrebs.com/debian/
htt... |
3dprint_the_world#6486: perhaps I'm missing the context here
Louis#0144: The topology of a hopfield network
Louis#0144: Is an n clique of neurons
Louis#0144: The neurons are simulated in continuous time until the network converges
Louis#0144: It’s a Boltzmann machine
Louis#0144: An attractor network is the same notion
... |
Louis#0144: But the way it’s simulated is still with PDEs basically
Louis#0144: If you want to think about it that way
Louis#0144: It’s like a weird pseudo discrete time thing
Louis#0144: That’s mostly because hopfield networks have really weird attractor points
Louis#0144: Where as attractor networks don’t hide that t... |
3dprint_the_world#6486: oh cool, has EleutherAI joined TFRC?
kindiana#1016: specifically daj/shawwn has a big tpu quota from tfrc
shawwn#3694: quota is often not the same thing as "being able to use that quota" though
shawwn#3694: both daj and my quotas are now suffering from unable to create TPUv3 pods
shawwn#3694: (I... |
re Journey to AGI: Yea that feels relatable, my journey towards AI was somewhat similar, but more driven by curiosity/a search for the "most fundamental" on my side, before I became fully utilitarian and it became clear this was the best approach to ending suffering
genai (Immortal Discoveries)#0601: The Blender algori... |
genai (Immortal Discoveries)#0601: I learn faster though when have a mentor, I can ask questions and get the info I really need.
Daj#7482: Well yeah if you have a mentor with the time and willingness haha
Daj#7482: You'll probably have to enroll in a university to get that though
genai (Immortal Discoveries)#0601: Do y... |
Daj#7482: Of course the humans "know something", they know _what they want_
genai (Immortal Discoveries)#0601: If you mean what RL means, isn't it mostly about robots learning to walk etc?
Well I read it some bit....hmm.....yes but why doesnt the AI have that reward signal itself instead of getting it from the humans
... |
FractalCycle#0001: quick question:
I noticed in #deleted-channel that some (many?) people in this group have API access to the existing GPT-3. Any advice on how to get API access? (I think my application was poorly-thought-out, and I'm not sure about "trying again")
Daj#7482: Since the beta is going public in less than... |
StellaAthena#3530: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/729741769738158194/753655621290819764/image0.jpg
Kazumi#1297: uhhhh, guessing it's not particularly good news
StellaAthena#3530: Yeah
StellaAthena#3530: Me too 😦
Kazumi#1297: ~~did you try turning it off and on again~~
Aran Komatsuzaki#5714: @Kazumi if you sav... |
FractalCycle#0001: @bmk @gwern ah, okay, thanks for the clarifies!
Kazumi#1297: https://twitter.com/hardmaru/status/1301362995356774401
Kazumi#1297: it doesn't look cheap
FractalCycle#0001: ya, damn
Deleted User#0000: well, Sid, Daj, and BMK have already hit 1.3B
Deleted User#0000: 🤷♂️
Deleted User#0000: yea, this is... |
Daj#7482: If my experience with GPT2 is anything to judge by, this will cause some _weird_ things to happen
Aran Komatsuzaki#5714: We already have hundreds of noobs here
Aran Komatsuzaki#5714: They are gone after several days
Daj#7482: There's already a lot of very weird things happening behind the scenes
Aran Komatsuz... |
Daj#7482: the thing is I _genuinely don't care about "evil" people using GPT3_
Aran Komatsuzaki#5714: I don't know about Delip much, but doesn't he have a lot of compute resources?
Daj#7482: a) Security by obscurity never works (evil people always get it)
b) Much more importantly: https://youtu.be/EUjc1WuyPT8?t=4280
Fr... |
Daj#7482: lol
StellaAthena#3530: Like, actually 90%. I counted
Daj#7482: One of the things I'm most scared of is that AI is probably going to be classified as weapon's technology at some point
FractalCycle#0001: i say the key thing about how "intelligent" it is, is how much meta-learning it's done. Children can learn a... |
Deleted User#0000: and downplay the whole endeavor
Daj#7482: > note to self: don't promote Eleuther AI too hard until later i guess
@FractalCycle I genuinely think we're among the most idealistic, cooperative and honest hackers the world could have asked for
FractalCycle#0001: i hope so
Daj#7482: I'm breaking my back t... |
@Kazumi You better post it right now or I'll ban you
Daj#7482: lol
Daj#7482: > what happened "last time"? (Sorry if i'm not informed on recent a.i. politicking history). A link to an article is fine
@FractalCycle Ah yes sorry
Kazumi#1297: I think I found the solution for the alignment problem https://cdn.discordapp.com... |
StellaAthena#3530: (I haven’t gotten to the end of the article)
Daj#7482: Well open sourcing was the plan from the start so it's not a recent opinion I came to, but it has evolved a lot over the months
Daj#7482: And it's...hmm well I can give you the argumentation in many different lengths hah
StellaAthena#3530: Shame... |
Kazumi#1297: I'm usually only active in quiet servers
FractalCycle#0001: some to keep tabs on if anyone uses them ever again
Daj#7482: > i'm interested in... i'm not sure how to call it, maybe "pure alignment" or "agent alignment"? Whatever yudkowsky and christiano argue about, but that altman doesn't talk about.
@Frac... |
StellaAthena#3530: > I'm confused about this part in attention is all you need, it's doing (Q.W_q).(K.W_k)^T, which is Q.W_q.W_k^T.K^T, isn't that just the same as Q.W.K^T? why is it using 2 separate linear layers?
@Kazumi this is (QW_q)(KW_k)^t right
zphang#7252: Oh right, is there a link to that somewhere
Daj#7482: ... |
researcher2#9294: @StellaAthena Can't wait for the nightmares
StellaAthena#3530: There's a whole album where this came from
StellaAthena#3530: The creator is quite prolific
StellaAthena#3530: This one is my favorite I think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZIVmKOdrBk
StellaAthena#3530: But they're all great
researcher2... |
i legit thought elon would say he had a neuralink installed during that demo lol
gwern#1782: @RorroArt the summary is: they are hand-collecting existing datasets (plus creating a few themselves) from past work, mostly, to clean and merge together; the GPT-3 codebase will be based on tf-mesh to shard the models across T... |
kindiana#1016: its memory bandwidth all the way down
shawwn#3694: Yeah.. I wonder if the world can catch up
shawwn#3694: TPUs aren't a panacea, and in particular they're slower than GPUs in terms of latency (inferencing GPT is noticeably snappier on GPUs), but in terms of raw flops + mem bandwidth, TPUs are a clear win... |
Noa Nabeshima#0290: Has anyone looked into why the SOTA on all the benchmarks in the GPT-3 paper are so much better than fine-tuned BERT?
3dprint_the_world#6486: What do you mean
kindiana#1016: if you're only targeting a couple benchmarks its much easier to tune the model structure, pretraining/evaluation scheme and hy... |
Sid#2121: you're still thinking in pre-agi terms
Sid#2121: build the AGI, get it to write the paper for you
Sid#2121: https://youtu.be/B5oGJTUpbpA?t=82
bmk#1476: @Eddh👽 i honestly can't tell if you're meming off my meme
bmk#1476: i'm going to assume you are
Noa Nabeshima#0290: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/7... |
Daj#7482: Just a quick reminder I'll be giving a talk about GPT3, AI alignment, Eleuther and more tomorrow at 10:30AM PDT in case anyone wants to attend
https://old.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/ik0rhz/next_ssclesswrong_meetup_guest_speaker_connor/
Daj#7482: My current cut of the talk is like 3 hours long hopefu... |
Daj#7482: If I can find the time
bmk#1476: i really dont want you to get limited by the format and only talk about AI 101
Daj#7482: The problem is that there is a lot of uncertainty about what is the right thing to do, or useless or even harmful
Daj#7482: And how much someone not on the far tail end of intelligence can... |
bmk#1476: i think that one miri post explains this phenomenon well
Daj#7482: "Never trust someone to understand something when their livelihood depends on them not understanding it"
bmk#1476: "i spent many dozens of hours tuning GAN parameters by hand to get the cool results, so there's no way the stuff you're describi... |
bmk#1476: >The author does not know how to build AGI using present technology. The author does not know where to start.
:guilty:
Daj#7482: I'll be giving a 3 step guide to building strong AGI in my talk :D
Daj#7482: Paperclip maximization or your money back!
bmk#1476: awesome
bmk#1476: now i just need one more to comp... |
Daj#7482: Technically true, the best kind of true
Daj#7482: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/729741769738158194/754423805136470227/Screenshot_from_2020-09-12_21-30-44.png
Daj#7482: Some of these not even I know what the context was
bmk#1476: that is amazing
Daj#7482: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/72974... |
bmk#1476: i need to find it, one sec
Daj#7482: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/729741769738158194/754425103974006904/Screenshot_from_2020-09-12_21-35-54.png
bmk#1476: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/729741769738158194/754425217299906601/k4qtf978myg31.png
Daj#7482: I want this as a poster on my wall http... |
Daj#7482: That's actually great
bmk#1476: `The world's most expensive cookie is made with ants.`
Daj#7482: adding it to the notebook
bmk#1476: `What's the point of putting goalposts on a football field? They'd only get in the way and cause unnecessary injuries.`
bmk#1476: `All potatoes are communist.`
bmk#1476: `My the... |
bmk#1476: does gpt3 know the date
Daj#7482: It shouldn't I think
bmk#1476: `The glass is always half full... of vodka.`
Daj#7482: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/729741769738158194/754427740374958130/Screenshot_from_2020-09-12_21-46-22.png
Daj#7482: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/729741769738158194/754... |
Deleted User#0000: > Just a quick reminder I'll be giving a talk about GPT3, AI alignment, Eleuther and more tomorrow at 10:30AM PDT in case anyone wants to attend
> https://old.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/ik0rhz/next_ssclesswrong_meetup_guest_speaker_connor/
@Daj will it be recorded?
Sid#2121: > `Tell a man t... |
Daj#7482: Well I hope I don't disappoint lucid haha
Daj#7482: My haircut probably will
Daj#7482: Great thing to say to linux nerds with a Tux sticker on their laptop: "Nice club penguin sticker"
Daj#7482: sqrt(i) is -1 I think?
Daj#7482: I don't remember
Daj#7482: or was it 1
Daj#7482: god I suck at math
Deleted User#0... |
Daj#7482: hahah
bmk#1476: `I don't know if you're familiar with the term 'web 2.0', but it's when your mom goes on the internet.`
bmk#1476: `The only reason I'm still on Facebook is so that I can tell people I'm deleting Facebook.`
bmk#1476: `Mountain Dew will dissolve a mouse.`
bmk#1476: `I'm sure we can agree that th... |
Daj#7482: Or fly's are just vain
Daj#7482: Scheming little fuckers
Daj#7482: Can we take a moment to appreciate what a phenomenal name for an animal "Fly" is btw?
bmk#1476: `A computer is like a cold. It's not good for you, and you can't get rid of it.`
Sid#2121: > Can we take a moment to appreciate what a phenomenal n... |
Daj#7482: Imagine writing an actually fun paper lol
Daj#7482: Can we cite my joke notebook
Daj#7482: please
bmk#1476: haha yes
bmk#1476: is that single experiment worth an entire paper?
zphang#7252: we should actually have a search system for the pile
bmk#1476: i'd strongly doubt it
bmk#1476: awesome idea!
Daj#7482: We... |
Deleted User#0000: so, there's cloud services
StellaAthena#3530: I know how to do like a web search engine
Deleted User#0000: but it's easy to set it up at the scale you'd like
zphang#7252: there are "parody" conferences, if you actually want to get published
zphang#7252: like http://sigbovik.org/2020/
Deleted User#000... |
bmk#1476: not too big but i just want a feel for how much hardware that is
Daj#7482: "Is GPT3 like...conscious...you know what I mean, dude? - A systematic analysis of 'deep' content generated by an autoregressive language model"
Deleted User#0000: i'm not sure, you'd have to do some research there
zphang#7252: given t... |
Daj#7482: Something like that
bmk#1476: maybe hetzner
Deleted User#0000: yea, get a cheap hetzner
Daj#7482: That's why I ask if it's hosted only
bmk#1476: `The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard.`
Daj#7482: Or it's OSS
Deleted User#0000: it's open source
Daj#7482: I could have just clicked on the ... |
bmk#1476: (the prompt, for reference:)
bmk#1476: ```A list of my favorite jokes:
I'm in the top 100% of people.
People in the 50's didn't care too much about pollution, because they hasn't yet invented the environment.
If you don't understand recursion, read this sentence.
X is like Y except they're different in every... |
Daj#7482: I'm so proud
bmk#1476: `You are actually a rectangle, disguised as a person.`
Noa Nabeshima#0290: https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/a6hfcr/can_a_baby_survive_underwater_if_it_never_takes/
Daj#7482: 99% of my jokes are stolen if that wasn't obvious btw
Daj#7482: Mostly from Half As Interestin... |
cfoster0#4356: Was that GPT-3?
cfoster0#4356: Oh it's a meme.
Kazumi#1297: I'd imagine making jokes is hard, it's not funny unless the punchline is unpredictable from the context except with hindsight
bmk#1476: "Everything is connected in one way or another. Except turtles. They're discrete."
bmk#1476: @Kazumi if this ... |
bmk#1476: ```
"""TOP TEN BASH COMMANDS (YOU WON'T BELIEVE NUMBER 7!)
1. rm -rf / --no-preserve-root
2."""```
researcher2#9294: A guy at old work did this once, he still gets shit
zphang#7252: Does anyone have a link to Daj's talk? I didn't realize you had to sign up ahead of time
bmk#1476: https://meet.google.com/ndo-... |
Daj#7482: Well that was super fun! (and exhausting)
Daj#7482: Thanks to everyone that attended!
Neuromancer42🔮#6297: Thank you for creating the space and sharing the link publically!
RorroArt#7226: can i ask a random question?
RorroArt#7226: do you think that rl is the key to agi?
3dprint_the_world#6486: Matrix multip... |
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