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the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa got it
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: was curtain it wasnt part of settings
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: but
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: one prob
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: where the... is my card :Hahahahaha: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/564547698091360266/unknown.png
watsonad2000#2000: not needed
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: :Hahahahaha:
kittycat959#2895: card.exe does not exist
kittycat959#2895: literally
JustinXenyx#8854: guess what sherlock
JustinXenyx#8854: its part of the settings @the aggresive toilet flusher
watsonad2000#2000: does apex work on a c2q ?
JustinXenyx#8854: @watsonad2000 nope
watsonad2000#2000: i3 2130 then
JustinXenyx#8854: the c2q lacks the instruction sets |
kittycat959#2895: @watsonad2000 its source so its cpu heavy
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: @JustinXenyx :Hahahahaha: :Hahahahaha: :Hahahahaha: :Hahahahaha: :Hahahahaha:
watsonad2000#2000: someone wants a cheap pc from me
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: :Smart:
watsonad2000#2000: and i have a q9300 mobo and ram
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: im satyopeed :Hahahahaha:
watsonad2000#2000: what is your gpu
kittycat959#2895: also nice pfp watson
JustinXenyx#8854: also, whats goin on with this egyptian ass writing https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/564548293753962509/egyptian_ass.PNG
watsonad2000#2000: :noweebs:
Lady Mipha#0611: :JellyBeanFace:
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: @JustinXenyx good guess i live in egypt but thats arabic....another downside of a cracked win
watsonad2000#2000: win10 is free
watsonad2000#2000: from ms
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: no no not this again@watsonad2000 |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: i KNOW
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: i was forced into this
watsonad2000#2000: you just have the activate me thing
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: thats all i will say cause i had no other choice
Deleted User#0000: my r y z e n is coming in mail today
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: but currently my win is ded
Deleted User#0000: excited time
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: i just have to live now with the fact that
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: i have no working audio
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: cause .....settings
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: wifi need to log out to connect cause. settings
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: and cant change res
Lady Mipha#0611: Canβt you get to the advanced startup options in win 10
watsonad2000#2000: you can
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: safe mode hmmm SAFE MODE i didnt think of that |
watsonad2000#2000: you hold shift then hit the reset button
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: yeah i know
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: ill try safe mode but note that dis is only on the pc so ....risk ill be taking:ConsiderThis: π’
JustinXenyx#8854: wait, i think i know the answer
TheFifthAce#4128: do you have a usb
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: yes
watsonad2000#2000: make a reinstall disk
TheFifthAce#4128: if windows is working right now download portable rufus and the iso from microsoft
JustinXenyx#8854: you know how you can repair a windows install when you're in the install menu? why don't you do that @the aggresive toilet flusher
TheFifthAce#4128: and make a new partition
watsonad2000#2000: then keep it
TheFifthAce#4128: then youll have all your old shit
TheFifthAce#4128: and a new windows install
JustinXenyx#8854: i don't think he has to reinstall windows
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: ?? repair windows |
JustinXenyx#8854: he just needs to get the old install fixed
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: do i need a copy of win for that
JustinXenyx#8854: yes
JustinXenyx#8854: but not a paid copy
JustinXenyx#8854: you can get the ISO from Microsoft themselves for free
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: i know and since now i have access to pc i can install it
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: ive installed free win before actually ive found a way other than media creation tool also from microsoft its just that when i got this pc i had no other pc like no other and i got a bunch of games with it so dont ask why didnt u download it
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: i knew when i installed this that it was free
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: did i have a choice?
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: no
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: sorry answered late cause internet card off ed there
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: thats the whole reason why i restarted the bloody thing
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: actually the perfect meme to go here is thanos what did it cost...everything:Hahahahaha: :Hahahahaha: :Hahaha:
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: i feel i was a tad too salty there
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: sorry lads |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: i feel you guys cause , from your point of view im just a scumbag who pirated windows and games and wants help?
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: but from my point of view
MythologicalZ#3752: Walloftext.png
TheFifthAce#4128: from my point of view, the jedi are evil
MythologicalZ#3752: We'll help regardless
MythologicalZ#3752: Just DL the iso
kittycat959#2895: @the aggresive toilet flusher if its viruses there are linux distros you can use to remove them
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: my point:i was forced to pirate windows , almost impossible to buy games unless i buy an acc containg the game which can be a headache and then i can download which takes for ever cause my internet , so i just pirate
sorry for the hassle guys
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: @MythologicalZ thanks
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: @kittycat959 no its not i checked the reason for the prob is electricity outage while restarting pc
kittycat959#2895: ahhhhh
kittycat959#2895: gotcha
kittycat959#2895: you can try repairing the install? |
kittycat959#2895: or maybe rolling back the version?
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: its a pirated version so its the same ver ever since i installed there were no updates
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: thats what they recommened and if nothing works i will
kittycat959#2895: you can get windows for free lmao
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: to repair
kittycat959#2895: why did u pirate
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: @kittycat959 again i know.
kittycat959#2895: hmmmm
MythologicalZ#3752: What do you need off your current install?
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: reason for that i almost wrote twice
kittycat959#2895: dont think there is much you can do then apart from a new install
MythologicalZ#3752: Just save files and shite?
kittycat959#2895: @the aggresive toilet flusher win 10 install usb does allow you to transfer everything over
kittycat959#2895: and your actual programs wont have been effected
kittycat959#2895: so that may do the trick |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: well yes but not pirated apps and not fornite and apex
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: which is basically all what i want
kittycat959#2895: hmm i see what u mean
TheFifthAce#4128: make a new partition and install windows there?
kittycat959#2895: i would send you a usb drive with them on but i cba
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: i know that at this point cause u just joined ull start getting angry of me but trust me its not in my hand i had to pirate alot of stuff
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: @TheFifthAce would it work?
kittycat959#2895: use gparted to do it
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: cause if u wanted to access a drive with windows on it it would say access denied
kittycat959#2895: nah it doesnt
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: i tried that before
kittycat959#2895: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/564553826401648640/unknown.png
kittycat959#2895: not my main drive, my old pc works just fine
kittycat959#2895: and i run my old programs off it still
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: when i had an old laptop i got my hdd from my laptop in my pc when i tried to fire up anything it said access denied |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: or its also bec it was pirated :Hahahahaha:
kittycat959#2895: you need to change the security in properties
kittycat959#2895: then it will work
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: safe mode works
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: before i do repair or a new partition
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: should i test anything there?
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: ??
kittycat959#2895: can you use the restore feature?
kittycat959#2895: restore to before the update
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: i never did a win update
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: bec
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: im on a pirated ver
kittycat959#2895: you can restore to before installing programs too
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: tried
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: failed |
kittycat959#2895: try again
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: did
kittycat959#2895: mine failed and then worked
kittycat959#2895: oof
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: again?:Hahahahaha: McDonalds add
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: thats a joke i doubt ull understant
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: anywaaysss:Hahahahaha: :Hahahahaha:
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: ill see what i can do in safe mode and restoring
kittycat959#2895: i wish u luck
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: but note that i only have discord here so if i dont come back in a while expect the worse lol
kittycat959#2895: oh no
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: its ok @kittycat959 :Hahahahaha: i have an hdd 3 mins were by and u got concerned :Hahahahaha: its fine
tried sys restore again
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: nope |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: gonna try safe mode
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: took me 27 min YES I KNOW
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: restore takes alot
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: gonna try safe mode which shouldnt take a brief
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: be back in 10
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: just as f.ed up as normal win
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: rip
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: so im downloading win 10 iso now and gonna tryy and repair tommorow
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: gn guys
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: gn(gamers nexus :Hahahahaha: )
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: didnt sleep im back
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: didnt solve the problem
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: but i got a work around for the following
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: audio: use realtek drivers
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: wifi:sign out |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: res: ...well thats an o o f
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: other than that dont need settings
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: i thank god a 1000 times that when this happened i wasnt on some janky res
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: this time for real
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: gn
marvin#9541: ahem
marvin#9541: fuck 1156
taptapking#6216: Is there any performance difference between an rx480 oc'd to 1366 core and rx580 has 1366 core as stock?
taptapking#6216: Both are 8gb
TheFifthAce#4128: no
TheFifthAce#4128: literally the same card with a die shrink and an overvolting
taptapking#6216: Wait i thought rx480 and rx580 are both 14nm?
RandomTacos#3695: They are
taptapking#6216: If I remember correctly, the 12nm one is rx590
TheFifthAce#4128: @taptapking die shrink, not process |
TheFifthAce#4128: the physical die on the 580 is smaller
Rio#1000: @TheFifthAce no it isnt lol
Rio#1000: theyre both 232mm squared
TheFifthAce#4128: I thought it got a die shrink @Rio
TheFifthAce#4128: :ThonkEyes:
Rio#1000: nope
TheFifthAce#4128: which one got a die shrink
TheFifthAce#4128: it was one of the rx
TheFifthAce#4128: the 590 was
TheFifthAce#4128: not the 580
Rio#1000: yes
Rio#1000: 590 got shrinc
Jam#0384: mewhuehue
SuSSudio#2688: https://wccftech.com/amd-epyc-rome-zen-2-7nm-server-cpu-162-pcie-gen-4-lanes-report/
SuSSudio#2688: https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-threadripper-hedt-epyc-rome-server-cpu-support-aida64/ |
TheFifthAce#4128: Is it better for gpus to keep them on and warm at 45c at all times or constantly turn on and off when not in use? Fans off so only a question of gpu health
TheGeekster#8508: If GPU's have a fan off mode, it means they were designed around being able to stay warm
TheGeekster#8508: hardware kinda takes care of itself, it's more likely that the gpu will become obselete than you'll wear the fans out
thatubuntuguy#5914: @TheGeekster does rivatuner not support vulkan? whenever i go into doom game the overlay disappears, but in the loading screens its still there
thatubuntuguy#5914: i want rivatuner to keep an eye on temps
thatubuntuguy#5914: not necessarily just fps
TheGeekster#8508: According to a quick google, nope it doesn't support vulkan
TheGeekster#8508: so either second screen, or another piece of software that does
thatubuntuguy#5914: i googled it too, but i got confused because the overlay appears in the loading screens just before i start the level
thatubuntuguy#5914: and then when i press space to enter the level, it disappears
thatubuntuguy#5914: so is it just using a video to render the animation in the loading screen then
TheGeekster#8508: Yeah, the menus will be a different type of program compared to the actual game, think of it as a "launcher" for the actual game engine
TheGeekster#8508: the menus aren't vulkan, the game is
thatubuntuguy#5914: oh right ok
thatubuntuguy#5914: so i need to find an alternative software :Oof: |
TheGeekster#8508: aye, but looking at it, no OSD software actually supports vulkan
thatubuntuguy#5914: oh great
thatubuntuguy#5914: not even steam overlay?
thatubuntuguy#5914: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHSNj6AyTAQ
thatubuntuguy#5914: wack
Deinsti#5907: Is there a way to use Rivatuner without msi afterburner?
thatubuntuguy#5914: where is amd wattman?
thatubuntuguy#5914: do i have to dl it separately
thatubuntuguy#5914: nvm foun dit
thatubuntuguy#5914: wtf is overdrive
thatubuntuguy#5914: @Deinsti where is wattman is it called overdrive now
Deinsti#5907: @thatubuntuguy I have not the slightest clue, I don't use AMD :Oof:
thatubuntuguy#5914: re
SuSSudio#2688: https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-and-intel-core-cpu-market-share-q1-2019/
Daze#8232: Are quad core still good now or it's better to have a sixth-core or eight core? |
JustinXenyx#8854: in my opinion, quad cores are the bare minimum now
JustinXenyx#8854: a lot of newer stuff already is strongly limited with quad cores
MythologicalZ#3752: Depends on the CPU
kittycat959#2895: something like a quad core intel 2700 will still do fine
kittycat959#2895: just make sure they are strong cores
kittycat959#2895: aka not an fx series cpu or a core 2 quad
Alcyone#2233: sandy< unlocked 4c8t are fine. 4c4t anything should be skipped unless youre on a tight budget
TheFifthAce#4128: 4c8t is minimum for newer games
TheFifthAce#4128: i7 3770
TheFifthAce#4128: i m o
flyingsky#4474: can i put my 12pin powersupply on 14 pin motherboard ?
flyingsky#4474: @Tech Helper
TheGeekster#8508: ... whut
TheGeekster#8508: there's no such connector, it's either 20 pin, or 24 pin
BigPete#9628: Do you mean 20 or 20+4? |
flyingsky#4474: no
flyingsky#4474: i have oem powersupply
BigPete#9628: Is this motherboard from 1995 and thus pre-atx
flyingsky#4474: lol can i put my 12pin powersupply on 14 pin motherboard ?
Alcyone#2233: I wouldn't mix and match oem proprietary shit
MythologicalZ#3752: ^
flyingsky#4474: but does it work ?
BigPete#9628: What motherboard is this
MythologicalZ#3752: Where do you have a 14 pin motherboard
BigPete#9628: ^
MythologicalZ#3752: Do you mean 24pin?
flyingsky#4474: lenovo motherboard
BigPete#9628: So OEM?
BigPete#9628: But Lenovo usually isnt
BigPete#9628: Whatst the model name |
Alcyone#2233: I think its a dell/hp style connector, who knows what the pinout is
TheGeekster#8508: take picture
flyingsky#4474: yes is oem
flyingsky#4474: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/564910740960575519/IMG_20190408_223301.jpg
BigPete#9628: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-Power-Supply-Motherboard-Adapter/dp/B0758G3PXC
flyingsky#4474: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/564911021345472513/IMG_20190408_223425.jpg
flyingsky#4474: But thats my motherboard his is 14pin and my powersupply is 12 but does it work ?
MythologicalZ#3752: Wouldn't risk it
MythologicalZ#3752: Get that adapter and use a standard PSU
BigPete#9628: Agreed ^
BigPete#9628: Its Β£2
BigPete#9628: Better safe than sorry
flyingsky#4474: because my motherboard is dead cuz i put on 24pin powersupply on 12 pin
Jamie.Cullen#8363: No if would work the other way around though
flyingsky#4474: But after that my motherboard beign smoke |
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Well rip your board?
flyingsky#4474: yeah so i was finking abaout my friend motherboard his 14pin on my 12pin does it work
flyingsky#4474: does it work with 350 plus 80 gold on my rx 480 4 gb
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Man juts get a better PSU
Evvy#0001: ...those pictures are both 12 pin? or i'm blind smh
TheGeekster#8508: I'm just going to say, do NOT FORCE A DIFFERENT SIZE PLUG INTO A DIFFERENT SIZE SOCKET, that is how you kill electronics, it's literally lego, if you force lego together how it isn't meant to be, it'll break
TheGeekster#8508: don't just randomly jam components together and hope it'll work, stop, look and do your research into it, that's not a standard connector, so a standard power supply wouldn't work, you've literally killed your motherboard... and are trying to use components that aren't suitable for your system
TheGeekster#8508: we can only help you so much, you're going to have to start thinking about what you do, before blindly going in and doing it
Lady Mipha#0611: :Yessi:
Rio#1000: theyre both 12 pin
Rio#1000: like evvy said
(Pin)#0743: hey what type of ram do i need for my computer becuse im not sure this is the right one https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0791M14VL/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A1PY2TJ4XEJEFD&psc=1
(Pin)#0743: for my hp slimline 290
JustinXenyx#8854: generally, most DDR4 RAM sticks should work for your Slimline 290 @(Pin)
Lady Mipha#0611: :Thinkplant: |
(Pin)#0743: so the one i chose should work
Lady Mipha#0611: Also is it recommended to start a lubuntu install from 14.04
Lady Mipha#0611: Should do
JustinXenyx#8854: yup, should work
JustinXenyx#8854: @Lady Mipha absolutely no idea lmao, i don't really do stuff with linux
JustinXenyx#8854: but i don't think it should be a problem, as thats one of the LTS releases
(Pin)#0743: i personally dont like or use linix
Lady Mipha#0611: Ok
Lady Mipha#0611: Because im doing this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/565038599293370378/image0.jpg
(Pin)#0743: https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108
Lady Mipha#0611: :Yessi:
(Pin)#0743: tech news
Lady Mipha#0611: 2006 MacBook installing lubuntu
Lady Mipha#0611: From cd
(Pin)#0743: have you heard about the gtx 1650 gpu |
Lady Mipha#0611: Yeah
(Pin)#0743: i wonder if its going to have the price of a gtx 1050 and the performence of a 1060
(Pin)#0743: like a 130 to 150 dallors
Lady Mipha#0611: :Thonking:
Alcyone#2233: I think it will be 75w ~1060 3gb performance ~$150
JustinXenyx#8854: ^that would be the most likely
JustinXenyx#8854: xx50/Ti releases usually have roughly the performance of the xx60 card from the previous generation
Rio#1000: other than the 1050
Rio#1000: that shit was weaker than the 950 in some cases
JustinXenyx#8854: @Rio yeah, that was a joke lmao
Rio#1000: 1050 is a pisstake
Rio#1000: 1050ti is what the 1050 shouldve been
JustinXenyx#8854: honestly, they should skip Ti versions on the xx50 series cards
Rio#1000: im fine with them if theyre actually worthwhile
Rio#1000: see: 750ti |
JustinXenyx#8854: sure, but the difference between a xx50 and a xx50Ti isnt usually that big
Rio#1000: yeah it usually isnt
thatubuntuguy#5914: 7870 vs 7970
thatubuntuguy#5914: not a huuuge difference
Rio#1000: difference between 1050 and 1050ti is too big to be a ti model imo
ππ#8300: why am i getting screen tearing with freesync enabled and fps capped at refresh rate
ππ#8300: :JellyBeanFace:
Evvy#0001: what gpu and what gam
Evvy#0001: also as a preliminary measure, disable discord overlay c':
ππ#8300: gpu is rx 580
Evvy#0001: oof
ππ#8300: i know
Evvy#0001: same
Evvy#0001: before i upgraded
ππ#8300: you think its a driver bug? |
Evvy#0001: it was pretty good though, it should do just about any game at 60 :ThinkConfused:
Evvy#0001: wouldn't hurt to redo the drivers
ππ#8300: yea
ππ#8300: tried that
Evvy#0001: with DDU?
ππ#8300: mmmmmmmmmmmmmhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Evvy#0001: dang
ππ#8300: idk what it is
Evvy#0001: no outstanding temperatures?
ππ#8300: it could be a temp thing?
Evvy#0001: if it's overheating, maybe? i'm not entirely sure but high temps aren't good in any situation c':
ππ#8300: thats true
Evvy#0001: also, is your FPS good or is it just frame tearing for no reason even at like 60 fps
ππ#8300: well its a 144hz display
ππ#8300: and |
ππ#8300: when at 144 fps it tears
ππ#8300: below its fine
Evvy#0001: π€
Evvy#0001: What display is it
ππ#8300: uhhhhhhhh
Evvy#0001: also i'd just limit it to 120hz if the issue is exactly 144
ππ#8300: same thing happens
ππ#8300: has something to do with it being at the monitors rf rate
Evvy#0001: my 580 was fine, tho
Evvy#0001: I'm on 144 hz too
ππ#8300: i dont remember it being like this when i got it from the store
Evvy#0001: all i did was undervolt it a bit
Evvy#0001: no overclocking or anything like that
ππ#8300: yeah no oc
Evvy#0001: what display are you using though? |
ππ#8300: i think
ππ#8300: something like hp 25x idk tbh
Evvy#0001: omen?
ππ#8300: dont think so
Evvy#0001: m
ππ#8300: im thinking its a driver bug cuz i dont always remember it being like this
ππ#8300: and i most keep drivers always up to date
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Roll back your driver and see if that fixes it
ππ#8300: witch one should i use
ππ#8300: hmmmmmm
Evvy#0001: https://www8.hp.com/il/en/products/monitors/product-detail.html?oid=21769081#!tab=specs
Evvy#0001: is it this display ?
ππ#8300: yeah thats it
Evvy#0001: hm, i don't see anyone else having the same issue
ππ#8300: yeah its weird |
ππ#8300: makes no sense
ππ#8300: just rolled back a few drivers and it still it happing
ππ#8300: dp hdmi 2.0 as well
ππ#8300: doesnt fix it
Evvy#0001: bang on your gpu with a wrench
ππ#8300: XD'
Evvy#0001: actually it might be worth reseating it
ππ#8300: thoooooooooooooooooooo
ππ#8300: i havent tried reseating the card
Evvy#0001: also make sure it's in the x16 slot and not the x8 one c':
Evvy#0001: I did that for a while, big oof
ππ#8300: wait
ππ#8300: witch one is the x16 slot
Evvy#0001: Usually the closest to the cpu
ππ#8300: oh ok |
Evvy#0001: Check with your mobo's manual or site tho
ππ#8300: will do
Evvy#0001: also if you're worried about it sometimes there's a bios option to have the x16 slot run in x8 mode too
ππ#8300: hmmmmmmmm
ππ#8300: could all of this bs maybe caused by a bad ram clock?
ππ#8300: as dumb as that sounds
ππ#8300: and i looked on the site and im in right right slot
Evvy#0001: idk tbh
Evvy#0001: maybe
ππ#8300: for now i just keep it at 120
ππ#8300: freesync helps make 120 feel a lot better so idk
DarknessFalls229#2286: How does one tell if their gpu is being bottlenecked by pcie bandwidth
TheFifthAce#4128: compare to online benchmarks
TheGeekster#8508: that... that be an interesting one, what gpu? most of the time it probably won't be unless you're running below x8 slot
TheFifthAce#4128: ^ |
TheFifthAce#4128: 2080
TheFifthAce#4128: presumably
DarknessFalls229#2286: Hd 5830, 1x pcie 2.0, running submerged med-low 30 fps rn
DarknessFalls229#2286: Running 99% usage on the 5830
TheGeekster#8508: on a pcie x1 slot? π
DarknessFalls229#2286: Yup
DarknessFalls229#2286: Its all this mobo has https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/565210963284983867/20190408_112803.jpg
TheGeekster#8508: not gonna ask, but do you have a x16 slot you can try it in? run the same becnhmark?
TheGeekster#8508: oh fuck me is that an atom?
DarknessFalls229#2286: Uuuh
DarknessFalls229#2286: Celeron j1900
DarknessFalls229#2286: 4 core 2.4ghz boost
DarknessFalls229#2286: 7th gen?
TheGeekster#8508: oh god, high five, running some at work, have you run a comparable benchmark or anything to other hd5830's?
TheFifthAce#4128: thats not bad tbh |
DarknessFalls229#2286: Nope, just started gaming
TheFifthAce#4128: keep in mind that the 5830 is worse than a 750 so
TheFifthAce#4128: :thonkeyes:
DarknessFalls229#2286: Ill test it with the q6600 testbench i guess
DarknessFalls229#2286: Must i oc the q6600?
TheGeekster#8508: nah the q6600 is more powerful than the j1900
TheGeekster#8508: but it won't really answer the question if the port is bottlenecking the gpu, it's probably the combination of that and the j1900
DarknessFalls229#2286: Wait wdym?
DarknessFalls229#2286: The gpu is at 99% though
TheGeekster#8508: eh, there's a lot of things that can cause high gpu usage, doesn't mean it's actually being used, there's a lot of different things that could cause it, only way you're gonna figure out what's going on is by benching against others with the gpu
DarknessFalls229#2286: What if
DarknessFalls229#2286: I throw the 690 in the 1x slot
TheGeekster#8508: then i feel like it would be bottlenecked but you could see if framerates increase
ShidoPixel#4650: Look what I found in the ground https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/565215329022902283/IMG_20190409_133354.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/565215329022902285/IMG_20190409_133334.jpg
DarknessFalls229#2286: Gee it scored a grand total of 152cb, as much as a E8400 |
ShidoPixel#4650: Can someone help
ShidoPixel#4650: To find out what this is
JustinXenyx#8854: looks odd
JustinXenyx#8854: at first glance, i thought it was one of those weird usb hubs with audio and a sd card reader
JustinXenyx#8854: but then i saw the display at the top and was like wtf
TheFifthAce#4128: bomb :kappa:
ShidoPixel#4650: No it's at the bottom
JustinXenyx#8854: @ShidoPixel i mean like the first picture
ShidoPixel#4650: It has an antenna
JustinXenyx#8854: not the actual top
ShidoPixel#4650: Yeah
ShidoPixel#4650: But this can be dangerous since it has an antenna
ShidoPixel#4650: Maybe an wifi antenna
JustinXenyx#8854: @DarknessFalls229 the J1900 is baytrail, which in itself is based on haswell afaik
JustinXenyx#8854: but yeah, you're not just PCIe bottlenecked, you're also limited by CPU power |
DarknessFalls229#2286: Well i guess
DarknessFalls229#2286: Hmm drivers dont wanna work
H.Maal or Shrimp13#1804: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/565223204185178115/Screenshot_20190409-201400.png
H.Maal or Shrimp13#1804: Fake cards?
JustinXenyx#8854: definitely a fake card
JustinXenyx#8854: could be even a fake listing altogether
H.Maal or Shrimp13#1804: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/565223653952716800/Screenshot_20190409-201649.png
JustinXenyx#8854: wait
JustinXenyx#8854: i just looked at the URL
DarknessFalls229#2286: Looks real, but sounds like a scam
JustinXenyx#8854: its a scam site 100%
H.Maal or Shrimp13#1804: Idk like Instagram was promoting it
thatubuntuguy#5914: that doesn't mean jack
thatubuntuguy#5914: that just means they paid money for it to be seen by others
H.Maal or Shrimp13#1804: Oke thanks for the advice |
TheFifthAce#4128: @H.Maal or Shrimp13 Anything that far below retail is a scam
DarknessFalls229#2286: Ah there we go, drivers wanna go
H.Maal or Shrimp13#1804: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/565226635637293066/Screenshot_20190409-202804.jpg
JustinXenyx#8854: not worth it
thatubuntuguy#5914: oml
thatubuntuguy#5914: rx 480 taobao
thatubuntuguy#5914: done
JustinXenyx#8854: not every1 can order of taobao lmao
thatubuntuguy#5914: superbuy
thatubuntuguy#5914: they deliver worldwide
thatubuntuguy#5914: you can't order direct yes but through an agent literally anyone can
DarknessFalls229#2286: @TheGeekster okay thats quite a change, same res and same settings i jumped like 10-20 fps, though gotta admit its still pretty good for a 1x slot
TheGeekster#8508: that'll be your limit tho, cpu too, the q6600 is more powerful
TheGeekster#8508: and it's quite an old card, a newer card would work basically the same
Rio#1000: Id pair it with smth like a 730 |
DarknessFalls229#2286: Yeah, thats what i figured
DarknessFalls229#2286: Hd 5830 is ok
Rio#1000: No point having such an efficient cpu and a power succ like the 5830
DarknessFalls229#2286: Well, its an experiment
DarknessFalls229#2286: A fun one too
DarknessFalls229#2286: Cramming a 16x gpu into a 1x slot
Rio#1000: Fair
H.Maal or Shrimp13#1804: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/565231549495377920/20190409_203810.jpg
H.Maal or Shrimp13#1804: Good price?
H.Maal or Shrimp13#1804: About 40 euro + shipping
TheGeekster#8508: I feel like... i feel like that's an obvious scam π©
MythologicalZ#3752: Nah
MythologicalZ#3752: Average for Tao
Deleted User#0000: which one https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/565241304611684353/unknown.png
TheGeekster#8508: *vague* but i'd do the second one |
TheGeekster#8508: or what ever was default
Deleted User#0000: ill do debian
Deleted User#0000: wait .rs
Deleted User#0000: thats my country
Deleted User#0000: ill do that one
ππ#8300: @Evvy at this point imma try reseating the gpu it might fix it
Evvy#0001: yeet
ππ#8300: :JellyBeanFace:
ππ#8300: didnt fix it but when i go windowed fullscreen the tearing stops
Evvy#0001: π
Evvy#0001: Borderless Fullscreen is best
Evvy#0001: in fact go ahead and just download the Borderless Gaming program, it'll save you some headache if you like alt-tabbing a lot in fullscreen-only games
Evvy#0001: it might make you download Visual Studio to use it tho
or i could make a .zip file of mine
ππ#8300: yeah with windowed fullscreen it has imput delay |
ππ#8300: ugh i just want a smooth game to play π’ been trying to fix this for weeks
Evvy#0001: oof
Evvy#0001: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/565294249889890305/Borderless-Gaming-master_Compiled.zip
Evvy#0001: here's this if anyone wants it anyways
should work to just run the .exe in master/borderlessGaming/bin/Release
if you get a "UI Translation" error, copy/paste the Languages folder in master/
to %appdata%/Andrew Sampson/Borderless Gaming
if it doesn't work after that I guess you'll need to download Visual Studio and compile the code yourself c':
SuSSudio#2688: Mobile topic :
https://wccftech.com/qualcomm-announces-snapdragon-730g-with-snapdragon-665/
SuSSudio#2688: https://www.anandtech.com/show/14185/amd-launches-2nd-gen-ryzen-pro-athlon-pro-apus
Evvy#0001: yee
Evvy#0001: APUs tho
TheFifthAce#4128: 4c8t vega 10 apu at 15w tdp?
TheFifthAce#4128: :Thonk: |
Evvy#0001: @4ghz boost too haha
TheFifthAce#4128: nice meme
TheFifthAce#4128: evvy check out my oc
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/565380317708288011/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: saucy
Evvy#0001: Too bad it'll probably never ever hit that and also will only be in like $1200 laptops c':
Evvy#0001: also, nice
TheFifthAce#4128: I had it at 4.2 at 1.37v I think
TheFifthAce#4128: but 4ghz at 1.28 is decent
Evvy#0001: idk what the max voltage is for ryzen
RandomTacos#3695: You can probably push 1.5
Evvy#0001: sorry, max safe* voltage for extended use c':
TheFifthAce#4128: no
TheFifthAce#4128: 1.4 is max safe
Evvy#0001: nice, then |
TheFifthAce#4128: there was a dude who did degradation tests with 4 r7 2700s
TheFifthAce#4128: :rip:
Evvy#0001: I've been undervolting my vega 56
Evvy#0001: i haven't noticed any changes in temps, but i've hit the lower limit that wattman lets you give it c':
Evvy#0001: prolly the thermal paste, but it's not like 55C is a bad temp anyways
Evvy#0001: also the fans get stupid loud over 50%
TheFifthAce#4128: :Thonking:
TheFifthAce#4128: I'm at 60c idle
Evvy#0001: ouch
Evvy#0001: i'm at 68 under a stress test for like 10 minutes
TheFifthAce#4128: """idle"""
Evvy#0001: on my cpu*
no overclock tho
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/565381920662487050/unknown.png
Evvy#0001: My RAM keeps filling up with garbage over time and idk why |
Chrome maybe?
TheFifthAce#4128: wait a sec
TheFifthAce#4128: I'm confused
TheFifthAce#4128: I set it to 3.4ghz to go to sleep
TheFifthAce#4128: but its at 60c
Evvy#0001: π€
TheFifthAce#4128: restarting brbr
Evvy#0001: aight well, good luck
i gotta go finish reading 102 pages of physics c':
TheFifthAce#4128: hm
TheFifthAce#4128: I guess its just running hot af
TheFifthAce#4128: it *is* summer now :Kappa10000:
Deleted User#0000: Hey guys (excuse the name please) I need help with my hp stream 14
Rio#1000: okay but first
Rio#1000: can i have an origin story |
Rio#1000: for the name
Deleted User#0000: Itβs good name yes?
Deleted User#0000: I want to boot Linux mint (19 cinnamon) on it, and I already turned on legacy boot, turned off safe boot, etc. but I want to verify that this is safe and wonβt break my computer, as I need it for school
Evvy#0001: what're you installing linux with
Deleted User#0000: A usb
Deleted User#0000: I already used unetbootin to make it a bootable usb
Evvy#0001: ye that's fine
Though, I would make it a portable boot if you have files on your Windows version that are important
Evvy#0001: As in, install it to the USB rather than making it bootable
Deleted User#0000: Oh ok
Deleted User#0000: Thanks
Deleted User#0000: Iβll try that
Evvy#0001: Er well, you'd still have to make it bootable
Deleted User#0000: I want to just trash windows 10 and make mint the default, would that work, or would my laptop burst into flames
Evvy#0001: But, ye |
It'd be safe to have both installed on the same hard drive or whatever, but sometimes Windows updates might screw with Linux
Evvy#0001: Oh, yeah, you can always try to reinstall a new OS
Evvy#0001: unless you mess with the BIOS updates, but you can't do that accidentally
Deleted User#0000: Ah I see, itβs only 32gb and thatβs the thing, Iβve already run dry on space when I barley have anything
Deleted User#0000: Ok thanks guys
Evvy#0001: ye, just don't ever hit "Flash Bios" when the computer boots up c':
tho, it wouldn't help if you just stuck to windows either
Deleted User#0000: It says, βinvalid or corrupt kernel imageβ
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Rip
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Then try using rufus
Deleted User#0000: Eh ok
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Or a different Linux version
Deleted User#0000: Sounds good, now I have to go through that process again
Deleted User#0000: Will all the drivers work, like the WiFi and stuff
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Depends on the Linux version really |
Jamie.Cullen#8363: But I've never had a problem with drivers
Deleted User#0000: Alright thanks mate, Iβll work on that, and Jesus itβs late in my area
Evvy#0001: Lubuntu is a good linux version
Evvy#0001: it's 3:47 AM for me c': g'night
Abe.#3344: Would you guys says an XFX RX580 XXX 4gb used is worth it for Β£80? It was "used for mining but kept in good condition"
Rio#1000: thats alright
Rio#1000: mining doesnt harm gpus nearly as much as its made out to
Evvy#0001: it's not a great deal since you can get the 8gb one un-mined for about 15-25 more, but it's alright
Evvy#0001: oh, shit, euros
Evvy#0001: uhhhhhh
Rio#1000: pounds
Evvy#0001: no u
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Ubuntu has had a nice overhaul
thatubuntuguy#5914: @Deleted User i'd suggest using rufus to burn the iso but whatever suits you.
thatubuntuguy#5914: installing mint won't blow up your laptop |
thatubuntuguy#5914: it'll be fine. make sure any important data is saved obvs
Budget#8265: **Fellas I will now refer you to the new rules**
1. If you havent googled it, try that first
2. If you dont listen dont expect help, try what people say, if you dont youre only trying their patience
3. Install Gentoo
4. Repeat
Budget#8265: Pinned a message.
kittycat959#2895: Gentoo time :RginHd:
SussyBalls#4615: Well time to use rule 1 to find out what rule 3 is :GWmythicalThonkCool:
MythologicalZ#3752: Install steamos
SussyBalls#4615: :Hahahahaha: |
kittycat959#2895: if steam os had steamplay out of the gate it may have done well
Abe.#3344: What do you guys think my next upgrade should be? I have a stock Ryzen 2200g, OCed GTX 960, 8gb of ram and an SSD and HDD.
Galilool#3398: gpu
MythologicalZ#3752: R5 and a new GPU
MythologicalZ#3752: Unless it's a 4Gb 960,that should be alright for a bit more
Abe.#3344: @MythologicalZ Yeah, but which first? It's a 2gb 960.
JustinXenyx#8854: @Abe. first CPU, then GPU, then RAM in my opinion
Abe.#3344: So I should go with like a R5 1600?
Abe.#3344: And then an RX580?
Abe.#3344: My estimated revenue for rn is Β£28 a week... So it's gonna take F O R E V E R for anything lol
JustinXenyx#8854: @Abe. yup
JustinXenyx#8854: R5 1600 is probably gonna take a month or so with 28 quid a week "earnings"
Abe.#3344: I could probably edit more videos in a week, but I have no time with exams and stuff
Abe.#3344: @JustinXenyx If I got a Wraith max or a Hyper 212 and overclocked the 2200g, would it be worth getting the RX580 then?
Evvy#0001: you're only charging 28 quid to edit? |
how long are the videos lol
JustinXenyx#8854: no @Abe.
JustinXenyx#8854: 4 cores are the bare minimum now
Evvy#0001: Save up an extra week and get a R7 1700 if you're doing video editing on that pc
JustinXenyx#8854: ^
JustinXenyx#8854: the price difference between a R5 1600 and a R7 1700 is not that huge
Evvy#0001: 10 bucks a core :haha:
Abe.#3344: I don't really care about render time if I'm being honest, I have a friend with a server who does that for me for like Β£5 a month, he has a Threadripper so it's much faster than what i'm going to get XD
Abe.#3344: And it isn't Β£28 a video, its Β£7 per video and I get like 4 a week
MythologicalZ#3752: @Abe. What Justin said
Evvy#0001: o u c h
Evvy#0001: How heckin' long are those videos
Abe.#3344: Guys I think messed up my GPU
Abe.#3344: With MSI Afterburner
Abe.#3344: I increased the clock significantly but now it's saying that it is severely underclocked but the temps are high as shite with fans at 45% |
Abe.#3344: As in Max 56 while idle
Evvy#0001: Did you change the fan curve
TheFifthAce#4128: @Abe. hyper 212 isnt am4 compatible
Abe.#3344: Really?
Abe.#3344: I swear I searched it
JustinXenyx#8854: nah, he's technically right
JustinXenyx#8854: the 212 Evo doesnt support it, but the 212X does
JustinXenyx#8854: but, the 212 Evo has a flexible mounting bracket, meaning if you have a backplate you could also mount it on AM4 in theory
flyingsky#4474: streaming requments my friend say at 8 gb gonna lag so much ? is that true ?
flyingsky#4474: @Tech Helper
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Be more specific
Deinsti#5907: Depends what game he wants to stream
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Yeah but like is he talking about system ram or GPU memory
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Like he needs to follow the updated rules tbh
JustinXenyx#8854: 8GB of RAM for streaming ALONE is more than fine, but if you want to stream and do something else with the same rig you're pretty much screwed |
Jamie.Cullen#8363: @flyingsky
flyingsky#4474: screwed ?
JustinXenyx#8854: you're pretty much fucked is what it means lol
flyingsky#4474: idk what does mnean
Jamie.Cullen#8363: You won't be able to stream
Jamie.Cullen#8363: And do something else
Jamie.Cullen#8363: On 8GB
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Comprende?
flyingsky#4474: so it does not work with 8 gb ram with stream ?
Jamie.Cullen#8363: It does
flyingsky#4474: ram ddr3
Jamie.Cullen#8363: But it depends on the game
flyingsky#4474: lag ?
JustinXenyx#8854: It works, but it you will quickly run out of RAM if you try to do something a bit more intensive at the same time
JustinXenyx#8854: Lag/Delay is dependant on how fast your CPU/GPU can encode the video and if your internet connection can send it fast enough |
flyingsky#4474: ok
Jamie.Cullen#8363: @flyingsky you need to Google these things first before just turning to us did you not see the updated rules
JustinXenyx#8854: @Jamie.Cullen i mean, that question is kind of shit to google by itself
JustinXenyx#8854: you won't get a proper answer from googling that
flyingsky#4474: ok
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx I'm just gonna sell the i5 system for 250
JustinXenyx#8854: @TheFifthAce holy shit, is the case made out of gold? :Hahahahaha:
TheFifthAce#4128: I'd feel too bad asking 350$ for it
TheFifthAce#4128: :thonk:
JustinXenyx#8854: jk, its the i5 1151 system, isnt it?
TheFifthAce#4128: yeah
flyingsky#4474: wich i5
TheFifthAce#4128: hes gonna swap out the 730 for an rx 570
TheFifthAce#4128: i5 6400 @flyingsky
flyingsky#4474: i buyet for 100dolalr |
JustinXenyx#8854: yeah, $250 is pretty reasonable for that i5 6400 system @TheFifthAce
TheFifthAce#4128: I'm across the planet from you buddy
flyingsky#4474: fuxc1
TheFifthAce#4128: I was getting offers at 350$ but transportation always worked out to be an issue, I can only go so far, so meetups are kinda ooif
flyingsky#4474: im gonna make vlog video pc challange 150 euro wiuth my friend streamnign pc
Evvy#0001: just ship it c:
fill the insides with metal marbles until it's full so there's no movement c:
Deleted User#0000: Will Ubuntu, lubuntu, or mint cinnamon work best on an hp stream 14
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Lubuntu
Deleted User#0000: Wonderful
Jamie.Cullen#8363: It's down to the desktop manager
Deleted User#0000: I'm more comfortable with the mint enviorment, however I'm willing to learn a new one
Deleted User#0000: Yeah I'll do that
Deleted User#0000: And finally make the laptop worth the 180$ I spent on it
Deleted User#0000: ugh ok guys last question for yall, what am I supposed to do when rufus says that access to my drive is denied |
Deleted User#0000: Wait I am trying a new drive I'll come back later
Deleted User#0000: Yee haw brothers lububtu is on my pc
Deinsti#5907: Nice
JustinXenyx#8854: so, @thatubuntuguy, does your friend already have a monitor etc?
thatubuntuguy#5914: just texted him asking
thatubuntuguy#5914: i'd assume so but idk
thatubuntuguy#5914: oh no i hit my pagefile limit
thatubuntuguy#5914: SWAP TIME
thatubuntuguy#5914: 2600 is like Β£20 more than the 1600
JustinXenyx#8854: yeah, but the R5 1400 is just 80 quid new
TheFifthAce#4128: what gpu
JustinXenyx#8854: which is 60 quid less over the 2600, 40 less over the 1600
thatubuntuguy#5914: aye fair
TheFifthAce#4128: Yeah go r5 1400 + rx 570 + a cheap b450
thatubuntuguy#5914: im thinking maybe a 570 |
TheFifthAce#4128: Upgrade cpu when zen2 hits, ez pz
thatubuntuguy#5914: yeha
thatubuntuguy#5914: which b450
TheFifthAce#4128: Or keep it, r5 1400 is solid
TheFifthAce#4128: Vdh, gaming plus, or pro4 are solid b450s
thatubuntuguy#5914: b350 will work with 1st gen ryzen right?
TheFifthAce#4128: Yeah
thatubuntuguy#5914: tomahawk is ok?
TheFifthAce#4128: definitely lol
TheFifthAce#4128: how cheap
thatubuntuguy#5914: the board is Β£70
TheFifthAce#4128: not awful at all
TheFifthAce#4128: but Id go for a cheap used board
thatubuntuguy#5914: he wants all new
TheFifthAce#4128: Heck |
TheFifthAce#4128: How much is rx 570
thatubuntuguy#5914: he's happy to pay a bit more
TheFifthAce#4128: Ah
TheFifthAce#4128: Ok that's fine then
TheFifthAce#4128: It would be only be over 400 by like 30
thatubuntuguy#5914: hows the armor 570
TheFifthAce#4128: Rx 570 = 135ish, 16gb = 85ish, cpu = 80ish, mobo = 70
TheFifthAce#4128: No
TheFifthAce#4128: dont get armor
thatubuntuguy#5914: gigabut
TheFifthAce#4128: no
TheFifthAce#4128: get xfx or sapphire
TheFifthAce#4128: theyre cheap and good
JustinXenyx#8854: the gigabyte 570 gaming is just 130 quid
TheFifthAce#4128: oh really? |
thatubuntuguy#5914: Β£130 for the xfx
TheFifthAce#4128: Grab xfx i m o but I just dont like gigabyte
JustinXenyx#8854: @thatubuntuguy doubting that the xfx 8gb card is real 4 the price
thatubuntuguy#5914: ?
TheFifthAce#4128: As long as it isnt armor or single fan, itll be fine
thatubuntuguy#5914: is it fake
TheFifthAce#4128: Tbh
thatubuntuguy#5914: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B077VX31FZ/?tag=pcp0f-21 @JustinXenyx
JustinXenyx#8854: @thatubuntuguy i've seen it
JustinXenyx#8854: i just think it may be a mislisted price
JustinXenyx#8854: or not even the 8GB card
thatubuntuguy#5914: oof
TheFifthAce#4128: Gigabyte card isnt bad
TheFifthAce#4128: See if the sapphire is close in price
TheFifthAce#4128: sapphire is hot |
TheFifthAce#4128: as in sexy not temps
thatubuntuguy#5914: sapphire be Β£140
thatubuntuguy#5914: 4gb card πΏ
TheFifthAce#4128: nahhh
TheFifthAce#4128: gigabyte time
TheFifthAce#4128: So that's 130
TheFifthAce#4128: Plus cpu is 210
TheFifthAce#4128: Plus mobo is 280
thatubuntuguy#5914: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/tyNypg/gigabyte-radeon-rx-570-4gb-gaming-4g-video-card-gv-rx570gaming-4gd
TheFifthAce#4128: How much is 2x8 aegis gskill
thatubuntuguy#5914: this gigabyte?
JustinXenyx#8854: @thatubuntuguy yes
JustinXenyx#8854: that one, get it
thatubuntuguy#5914: k nice
Deleted User#0000: @TheFifthAce DDR4? |
TheFifthAce#4128: yes
Deleted User#0000: Like $70
TheFifthAce#4128: for him
TheFifthAce#4128: not in general
TheFifthAce#4128: @thatubuntuguy
thatubuntuguy#5914: 82
TheFifthAce#4128: Do you have a case, storage, or power supply?
JustinXenyx#8854: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/sx6mtg i'm like 30 quid over and my list doesnt even have a hdd :Hahahahaha:
thatubuntuguy#5914: im using the masterwatt 550 i think for the psu
TheFifthAce#4128: 362 pounds so far
thatubuntuguy#5914: so that's an extra 50
thatubuntuguy#5914: shit we don' have no hdd or case
thatubuntuguy#5914: ssd
TheFifthAce#4128: jm
thatubuntuguy#5914: nzxt s340? |
Deleted User#0000: S340 is **U G L Y**
thatubuntuguy#5914: and expensive
JustinXenyx#8854: the nzxt s340 is pretty pricy for what it is to be honest
TheFifthAce#4128: mmmm like are you sure you cant go used
TheFifthAce#4128: A used 570 would make this way esiser
thatubuntuguy#5914: but it can't be taobao
thatubuntuguy#5914: but i guess yh
JustinXenyx#8854: @TheFifthAce i mean, if the guy wants new parts and is willing to pay extra, not much of a problem tbh
TheFifthAce#4128: thats true
JustinXenyx#8854: @thatubuntuguy have you looked at my list?
thatubuntuguy#5914: no
Deleted User#0000: I can't stand most NZXT boxes. They're too bland.
They're just... bland, sharp, and way, way too futuristic looking. With a glass windows, they look like a rich person's glass house.
JustinXenyx#8854: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/sx6mtg here
TheFifthAce#4128: dropping to a used 570 means getting 16gb ram tho |
JustinXenyx#8854: i was trying to stick as close to the original budget as possible
thatubuntuguy#5914: tbh a used 570 is possible
thatubuntuguy#5914: it'd make it a lot easier
JustinXenyx#8854: yeah, it would also keep the price at like 380-390 quid if only the GPU is used
Deleted User#0000: What's the budget, and what're you doing with it? I'm only just not paying attention lol
TheFifthAce#4128: I'd spend the extra 40 for 2x8 instead of 2x4 tbh
thatubuntuguy#5914: for a friend
JustinXenyx#8854: @Deleted User 400 quid, gaming rig i'd assume
thatubuntuguy#5914: he said Β£350-400 but i can pay more if its worth it
Deleted User#0000: *cracks knuckles*
Deleted User#0000: I got this
TheFifthAce#4128: or a used 47
TheFifthAce#4128: 470
TheFifthAce#4128: Even cheaper
thatubuntuguy#5914: basically same card too |
TheFifthAce#4128: Same perf
TheFifthAce#4128: Exactly the same card lol
TheFifthAce#4128: Literally the same card with an overvolt
thatubuntuguy#5914: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USED-Sapphire-RX470-4GB-Mining-Edition-Graphics-Card-Quad-UEFI/143094418803?epid=12030871589&hash=item2151178d73:g:qY4AAOSwy6NcQRBg
thatubuntuguy#5914: oh look!
JustinXenyx#8854: "mining edition" gtfo
TheFifthAce#4128: Perfect
Deleted User#0000: How much does a used 570 go for in the UK? A used 570, here, is about the same as a used 480.
thatubuntuguy#5914: ITS AMINING CARD
thatubuntuguy#5914: OOF
TheFifthAce#4128: oof
TheFifthAce#4128: look for others
thatubuntuguy#5914: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMD-Radeon-RX570-4GB-Nitro-Sapphire-RX-570-Overclock-OC-Excellent-Condition/323670826649?hash=item4b5c48de99:g:CfQAAOSwIt5ceJc8
thatubuntuguy#5914: bingo
Deleted User#0000: Just get a used 480... |
thatubuntuguy#5914: k
thatubuntuguy#5914: found one for Β£100
thatubuntuguy#5914: they're new for Β£120
thatubuntuguy#5914: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sapphire-Nitro-AMD-Radeon-RX-480-OC-8Gb-Graphics-Card-BOXED/163555153966?epid=1582706673&hash=item2614a5982e:g:~-YAAOSwWw9cqBPi
Deleted User#0000: They do much better. They're pretty cheap, and don't really suffer in comparison to a 580.
580's only have a 4% clock boost over the 480, which is about what most 480's are capable of OC'ing to, anyway lol
thatubuntuguy#5914: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Asus-Radeon-RX-480-DUAL-4GB-graphics-card/223475553377?hash=item34082e5461:g:qyQAAOSw8jlcq126
thatubuntuguy#5914: here's one for Β£100
thatubuntuguy#5914: i can probably ask for Β£90 or something
TheFifthAce#4128: @Deleted User different between 4xx and 5xx is literally 3 fps
TheFifthAce#4128: xddd
Deleted User#0000: Exactly, so why go for a 570, when the 480 only costs a few quid more?
TheFifthAce#4128: yes
Deleted User#0000: People keep obsessing over the 570 being cheap now. I'm over here like.... but 480 tho
thatubuntuguy#5914: @JustinXenyx isn't the aero 500 better than the deepcool case? |
JustinXenyx#8854: it is @Deleted User
JustinXenyx#8854: fuck, wrong ping
Deleted User#0000: I bought my RX 480 for $100. That's what, 85 quid? Lol
JustinXenyx#8854: @thatubuntuguy it is better, but not by much i think
thatubuntuguy#5914: looks much better tbh
thatubuntuguy#5914: and fan controller
JustinXenyx#8854: @Deleted User yeah, 480's are usually the better deal than 570's
thatubuntuguy#5914: should i give him a 240gb ssd or a 120gb ssd and a 750/1tb hdd
JustinXenyx#8854: @thatubuntuguy ssd + hdd
Deleted User#0000: 120gb SATA SSD, 2tb HDD, if possible.
It's not hard to swap things over, in the future, keeping prices down in the short term
thatubuntuguy#5914: what about a used hdd :OmegaxD:
thatubuntuguy#5914: i know its a bad idea dw
thatubuntuguy#5914: ***laughs in having two**
Deleted User#0000: Could buy a used SSD. Even SSD's from 2013 have a write capacity of like 40pb |
TheFifthAce#4128: what about aero 800
TheFifthAce#4128: :Thonk:
thatubuntuguy#5914: fair point
thatubuntuguy#5914: i was thinking fan controller
thatubuntuguy#5914: but i forgot its a modern board
thatubuntuguy#5914: :OmegaxD:
TheFifthAce#4128: ye lol
thatubuntuguy#5914: right we needs a monitor
thatubuntuguy#5914: i know nothing about these
thatubuntuguy#5914: he doesn't have a monitor but he'll pay extra
TheFifthAce#4128: grab some shitty 900p monitor from a thrift store
thatubuntuguy#5914: or mouse
thatubuntuguy#5914: or keyboard
TheFifthAce#4128: mouse is easy, m711 redragon
TheFifthAce#4128: :dAB: |
TheFifthAce#4128: its like 15 pounds
thatubuntuguy#5914: ***dell mouse***
TheFifthAce#4128: ew
thatubuntuguy#5914: *laughs in dell mouse8
thatubuntuguy#5914: keyboard?
TheFifthAce#4128: uhhhhhhh
TheFifthAce#4128: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-GK-XK700-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B071FBRPBY/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=xk700&qid=1555011520&s=gateway&sr=8-1
JustinXenyx#8854: get a mechanical one with the chinese switches
TheFifthAce#4128: nah get the gigabyte one
TheFifthAce#4128: its solid
TheFifthAce#4128: ttc reds
thatubuntuguy#5914: k brb
JustinXenyx#8854: @TheFifthAce the gigabyte keyboard is a mechanical kb with chinese switches :Hahahahaha:
TheFifthAce#4128: :Thonk:
Deleted User#0000: G910 is pretty shit |
TheFifthAce#4128: is it?
TheFifthAce#4128: oh also thats bid not buy, whoops
Deleted User#0000: Keys feel like ass.
TheFifthAce#4128: good to know
TheFifthAce#4128: yeah I replaced the keycaps on the xk700 with pudding
TheFifthAce#4128: switches feel solid
TheFifthAce#4128: and cleaning is as easy as turning it sideways and slamming it on the desk
Deleted User#0000: So... 16gb might be a bit overkill, and put you over the top with pricing.
Why not get a 4x2gb kit so you get the latency advantage of dual channel?
Actual RAM usage is never reported correctly in Windows, anyway. When you see, "usage", spikes, that's just how much an app is saying it needs, just in case.
JustinXenyx#8854: DDR4 doesnt have 2GB sticks afaik
Deleted User#0000: I mean 2x4gb
Deleted User#0000: I'm trying to work out how to build a DAMN good looking machine and stay in budget. Wanna see what I've got so far?
Deleted User#0000: Adding the GPU, it'd cost about 450
Deleted User#0000: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/jw3dkd |
Deleted User#0000: But it'd look really damn nice
JustinXenyx#8854: 2 Problems with that list: that SSD is shit and that motherboard also has plenty of issues
Deleted User#0000: Unless you're going used, I don't see much of a better list. Lol
JustinXenyx#8854: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/LjWP4q
JustinXenyx#8854: this is the list i made, but with a GPU
TheFifthAce#4128: dont ever suggest an a400 u mong
Deleted User#0000: Where's the case in your list?
JustinXenyx#8854: wait
JustinXenyx#8854: wtf
Deleted User#0000: Nice one
JustinXenyx#8854: probably deleted it when i switched the psu earlier
Deleted User#0000: This works off the assumption that you can find an RX 480 for 100 pounds
Deleted User#0000: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/k44G8Y
Deleted User#0000: I'll dick around on eBay and see if I can find things like used RAM and whatnot
Deleted User#0000: @thatubuntuguy DM |
TheFifthAce#4128: @Deleted User can you not suggest absolute dogshit motherboards
TheFifthAce#4128: thansk
TheFifthAce#4128: doesnt matter if its cheap if the board dies lmaoo
Deleted User#0000: I have the board. VRM's are the same from the X370-F, cut down because it's not a massively overclocking-centric board
Deleted User#0000: :Hahahahaha:
TheFifthAce#4128: literally no vrm heatsinks and bad vrms
TheFifthAce#4128: :grr:
TheFifthAce#4128: just get a used b350 for cheaper
Deleted User#0000: VRM, like I said, uses the exact same chokes and FETs from the X370-F. VEM's are fine, and the board isn't overclocking-centric.
The problem is that buying the B350 versions are more expensive kek
Deleted User#0000: @TheFifthAce what I'm trying to do is build a system that's both pretty and performs well.
Those FETs and other things around the VRM, like the switches, don't start getting affected until you reach 125c, and he's not going to be getting them anywhere near that, since he's new, and probably wants to get the most out of the system for the longest time possible, so mild overclocking would be tolerable, especially since the things are rated for 5000 hours at 125c, anyway, which is nearly 250 days of continuous load.
I mean sure, I could pick this...https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gigabyte-GA-AB350M-Gaming-3-AM4-AMD-B350-DDR4-mATX-Motherboard/152987492660?epid=2256046038&hash=item239ec3e134:g:42IAAOSw2Yta1mkT
Deleted User#0000: But it ruins the theme, has a confusing-as-shit BIOS, and doesn't have any better rated of a VRM
TheFifthAce#4128: gigabyte made awful b350s |
Deleted User#0000: And most other mATX B350 boards are either too expensive, or don't have VRM heatsinks, so, want a more expensive build that'll break the budget even more, and set him back on other things he needs the money for, or not OC the system?
TheFifthAce#4128: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/motherboard-mATX-Ryzen-B350-ASRock-AB350M-PRO4-Socket-AM4-with-accessories/283407544147?epid=18019367215&hash=item41fc67ef53:g:nz4AAOSwT2pbSIOG
TheFifthAce#4128: ?...
JustinXenyx#8854: wait
Deleted User#0000: I suggested that board earlier
JustinXenyx#8854: @TheFifthAce shit
JustinXenyx#8854: has bios problems and some slight component problems afaik
Deleted User#0000: Board is ass, uses off-quality VRM's
TheFifthAce#4128: thought they fixed those
TheFifthAce#4128: the bios issue
TheFifthAce#4128: not the vrm
Deleted User#0000: The VRM is **D O G S H I T**
TheFifthAce#4128: you just have a vendetta against asrock
TheFifthAce#4128: the vrm is bad but not dO GAOG EITRNHSIUHTitSHTS
Deleted User#0000: Not really. Their Taichi boards are damn nice |
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/565998229448032311/unknown.png
Deleted User#0000: Yes.
TheFifthAce#4128: ..b450 pro4 is fine
TheFifthAce#4128: I literally have a ryzen 5 2600 stable at 4.2ghz on a pro4
Deleted User#0000: I hate the company. Products tend to be absolute ass.
Bad companies can make nice things
TheFifthAce#4128: so then yes, you do, in fact, have a vendetta against asrock
JustinXenyx#8854: wait, so you hate ASrock but are fine with ASus?
TheFifthAce#4128: ^^^^
Deleted User#0000: Not really. I only like Asus for their easy-to-use BIOS, that's about it.
JustinXenyx#8854: do you know where ASrock originated?
TheGeekster#8508: A Sexy Rock right?
JustinXenyx#8854: @TheGeekster definitely
Deleted User#0000: Genuinely don't care where it came from. I don't think it matters. I never said I like Asus
JustinXenyx#8854: don't you see it? ASrock, ASus? |
Deleted User#0000: Still not caring. Never said I liked Asus
Deleted User#0000: What point are you making
JustinXenyx#8854: You're recommending a Asus board, while you think the ASrock board is garbage
JustinXenyx#8854: when quality wise they are pretty much the same
TheFifthAce#4128: the main difference being you can actually hold an overclock on a pro4 without popping the vrms
Deleted User#0000: I'm recommending something that doesn't break the budget, and already said the build I was making was more to retain a specific theme.
I never said I preferred a certain brand, and don't like Asus, at all. Their RMA department is shit, and lower end boards, or mainstream boards, aren't amazing.
Deleted User#0000: Me saying, "ASRock sucks," doesn't mean, "Asus doesn't suck"
JustinXenyx#8854: BTW, that VRM wasnt designed for the X370-F, it was designed for the B350 boards and then put on the X370 board
Deleted User#0000: I even suggested a Gigabyte board a bit ago, you moron
TheFifthAce#4128: gigabyte is worse
Deleted User#0000: It is. Their BIOS is crap. VRMs tend to be alright, but it doesn't fit the theme
Heretic#2498: Intel branded boards are the only ones i'll buy for AMD systems
TheGeekster#8508: OEM Boards provide stability, love, and they fit with any build due to the green PCB and often unusually coloured and proprietary connectors
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah, ask techo, hes got one of them bad boys custom looped |
Thomas Callaghan#6969: :magikHAHA:
JustinXenyx#8854: @DarknessFalls229 which one lol
DarknessFalls229#2286: dunno, but hes got custom water cooling on a locked chipset and non k cpu i think
Thomas Callaghan#6969: most Intel boards are fine for a cheapo build
Thomas Callaghan#6969: ahem
thatubuntuguy#5914: dead dq67ow hours
Thomas Callaghan#6969: OW
Thomas Callaghan#6969: very cool
thatubuntuguy#5914: exchanged my broken intel pos for another working intel pos
Thomas Callaghan#6969: they're under 30 quid a pop
thatubuntuguy#5914: which i will promptly resell on ebay for Β£99
thatubuntuguy#5914: like i said some twat will buy it
Deleted User#0000: @thatubuntuguy look at the listings I sent you
thatubuntuguy#5914: @Deleted User ryzen wants fast ram?
JustinXenyx#8854: he used 3000mhz ram in most lists afaik |
Deleted User#0000: It does, it likes RAM up to around 3200mhz on 1st gen. Past that is starts having problems.
LPX DIMMs usually OC pretty well
thatubuntuguy#5914: okay
thatubuntuguy#5914: that sure beats Β£50 for a 8gb kit
Deleted User#0000: @JustinXenyx I sent him a couple listings for slower but DAMN cheap LPX DDR4 kits
Deleted User#0000: This is the list I've got
Deleted User#0000: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NYwjzY
Deleted User#0000: The RX 450 can be substituted for a 570, or any other 480. It's just a general idea of what you might be able to find one for cheap.
Deleted User#0000: Keeping it blck would be a better idea, for the theme
Abe.#3344: Uh I know it's kinda late, but the Asrock B450 pro4 is semi decent, apart from severe ram issues in A1 and B1 ( That might just be my board) it's actually pretty good, though, the BIOS could be better.
Alcyone#2233: no proper soc voltage control and no LLC makes it pretty weak at overclocking but if you want plug and play or just mild overclocking its solid
@Abe. most boards use slots 2+4 for 2 dimm. or are you having issues with all 4 populated
Abe.#3344: Nah, when I first built it, I accidentally plugged in my 2 dimms into A1 and B1 and XMP just didn't work. Couldn't go over 2400mhz no matter what (even went to increasing voltage to 1.4, it's normally 1.35 and that's pretty high). Switched the slots to A2 and B2 and boom, XMP worked at 3000mhz and I managed to push it to 3200mhz.
Abe.#3344: I think the ram slots are just screwed in my board, but I CBA to get it replaced because then I'm PC less for a while. Unless something else stops working, I'm not sending it back.
Abe.#3344: When Ryzen 3000 comes out, I'm planning on getting the 3300 if leaks are correct (6c/12t for Β£80 at 4ghz). If the leaks are true, it's an absolute steal. |
Abe.#3344: If it stops working then I'll get it fixed XD
TheGeekster#8508: XMP is a flawed technology, don't rely on it, it can cause more issues than it's worth sometimes
Alcyone#2233: @Abe. thats normal for a daisy chain trace config.
Abe.#3344: Β―\_(γ)_/Β―
Abe.#3344: I had to figure that out all on my own because there is nothing on the internet about it
Abe.#3344: I was told that it's really extreme for that to happen at that level though, even with XMP off, I couldn't push it over 2400mhz no matter what
Alcyone#2233: It's because traces in the mobo hold capacitance. manual is pretty cryptic for the pro4. 1 dimm would go in a2, 2 dimm in a2+b2 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/566011955815383076/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: yes
TheFifthAce#4128: thats what I had to do
Rio#1000: >tuf b350
Rio#1000: next
Rio#1000: also >barracuda
Rio#1000: the tuf b450 is the bare minimum, and its the b350 with better stages
Rio#1000: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/qF2ZMZ
Rio#1000: cheaps on case, but you get a better mobo and hdd |
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Nice I have it on my laptop
taptapking#6216: my rx 470 and 480 are confusing me
taptapking#6216: so I have an rx 470 card (because the label states so, and so does the bios)
taptapking#6216: but it has 570's device id
taptapking#6216: when I flash an 570 bios to it, It works fine
taptapking#6216: but not my 480
taptapking#6216: after flashing an 580 bios to it, it took 10 tries to post
taptapking#6216: and after posting, it works correctly
taptapking#6216: (my 480 has the correct device id for an regular 480)
taptapking#6216: (my 480 is HIS Roaring, 470 is Powercolor red dragon)
taptapking#6216: anyone knows what's going on?
Rio#1000: aight
Rio#1000: for the 480
Rio#1000: did you flash a matching model's vbios?
Rio#1000: and how did you go about the flash |
taptapking#6216: I downloaded an bios for HIS 580
taptapking#6216: I had to force flash by atiflash cmd
Rio#1000: a his 580 yes, but is it a his 580 roaring or a different model?
Rio#1000: it can make all the difference if it doesnt support the vram 100% or smth
taptapking#6216: i downloaded an his 580 iceq x2 8gb bios
taptapking#6216: not an his 580 roaring 8gb bios because i can't find it
Rio#1000: where from?
Rio#1000: it could be a dodgy rom
taptapking#6216: techpowerup
Rio#1000: uhhh
taptapking#6216: an unverified one
Rio#1000: techpowerup doesnt have any his 580 bioses?
Rio#1000: oh
Rio#1000: yeah its probably a dodgy vbios
taptapking#6216: luckily my card has dual bios |
taptapking#6216: so bios 1 is the original 480 bios and bios 2 is my modded 480 bios which has 580's clock speed
The Truth#4559: He made a video about the Intel pentium R, didn't he?
JegKompletson#3381: Can someone suggest an extremely cheap CPU which is still good enough because I live in a freaking third-world country?
MythologicalZ#3752: What socket and what price?
MythologicalZ#3752: Because otherwise I suggest a Pentium 4 or some shit
Rio#1000: core 2 duo is usable enough
Rio#1000: its not ideal, but you can find them cheap almost everywhere in prebuilt systems and theyre fine for basic tasks
Deinsti#5907: For W10 I would recommend core 2 quad at least
JustinXenyx#8854: @JegKompletson "extremely cheap" is relative
JustinXenyx#8854: give us a budget lol
JegKompletson#3381: Okay, so I know almost nothing about these things, but I use my PC for gaming and graphic design. I have been recommended the AMD Ryzen 5 2600X by some other guy off the internet. What do you guys think?
MythologicalZ#3752: 2600x is decent,would rather get a 2600 though and just make up the difference with an OC
JegKompletson#3381: Anything else you would recommend other than that?
JustinXenyx#8854: RYZEN? I thought it was supposed to be "extremely cheap"
JegKompletson#3381: $189.99 definitely seems cheaper seeing the other options though. |
TheFifthAce#4128: @JegKompletson when you say cheap and third world our mind goes to 20$ lol
TheFifthAce#4128: ryzen 5 2600 is great, itll run any game you throw at it, assuming you have a decent gpu
Evvy#0001: ye
Evvy#0001: Or cheapo a bit more and go with a 1700
There's been loads of sales for under $150 lately
Evvy#0001: +2 cores too c':
Just a lower clock speed and less new features
TheFifthAce#4128: @Evvy 1700 is a bit unnecessary, it won't improve gaming performance
Evvy#0001: but cheep tho
TheFifthAce#4128: go for a 1600 then
TheFifthAce#4128: :ThonkPlant:
Evvy#0001: b-but
Evvy#0001: sure
Smug space wizard#7829: Anyone here that feel comfortable in their Linux know-how that would be happy to give a recommendation on a particular question?
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Just fire away and someone will answer |
Smug space wizard#7829: Fair enough. I'm looking for a Linux distro mainly for troubleshooting and to be used mainly as a live CD (USB) I want to have all necessary tools from the getgo, and once in a blue moon be used as a installation media in case it's the only flashdrive I have on me
Deleted User#0000: having a little trouble with a lga755 Foxconn motherboard
Deleted User#0000: it says it supports 4GB of ddr2 but donβt seem to get a signal when 4GB is Install but do when I install a single 1gb dim
Deleted User#0000: any ideas on whatβs causing this ?
JustinXenyx#8854: how many ram slots does it have?
Deleted User#0000: 2
MythologicalZ#3752: Are you installing a single 4GB stick?
Deleted User#0000: no, 2x 2gb sticks
MythologicalZ#3752: Hmm,they on the QVL?
Deleted User#0000: QVL ?
JustinXenyx#8854: Qualified Vendor List i think
JustinXenyx#8854: but its a OEM board, so you're unlikely to find that lol
Deleted User#0000: yeah Iβve struggled to find much info about it
Deleted User#0000: tried reseating the cmos
Deleted User#0000: and was going to doing either a bios flash or update but Iβm inexperienced in updating and flashing bios |
Deleted User#0000: @JustinXenyx just tried to find a QVL, couldnt find it
hotmale420360#3948: whats the board model?
taptapking#6216: for some reasons my rx 470 thermal throttle (85 degree when full load) when running on 470 bios overclocked to 570 clock but it doesn't thermal throttle (75 degree when full load) when running on 570 bios
taptapking#6216: anyone know what's going on?
Rio#1000: voltage probably
taptapking#6216: btw does 80 degree full load normal for rx 570?
MythologicalZ#3752: Doesn't seem that bad
MythologicalZ#3752: My XFX 570 maxes about 75 on auto fan speeds
taptapking#6216: my powercolor 470 with 570 bios is screaming at 96% fan speed
MythologicalZ#3752: Ouch
taptapking#6216: (I used RoTTR's main menu to stress the card)
taptapking#6216: meanwhile my his 480 oc'd to 1366 core has load temp of 61-62 degree
MythologicalZ#3752: Probably because it's on a 480 BIOS
taptapking#6216: I did try flashing my 470 back to its original bios and it has even worse temp (85 degree on full load)
MythologicalZ#3752: You sure your TP is alright and that your cooler is making proper contact? |
taptapking#6216: I touched the cooler during load and I could feel the heat
Xènius#8267: Kinda random but I don't know where to ask this any on have luck fixing up broken consoles and handhelds from eBay want to give me some pointers on buying things
Tinybox#9112: So a guy selling a 1070 for 65 bucks, as "defective"
in his listing he's saying he bought it and tried to power it with a molex adapter.
Tinybox#9112: No reaction
Tinybox#9112: worth a go?
Tinybox#9112: note that the 1070 ONLY has, 1 8 pin
Tinybox#9112: (molex adapter has Molex 2x, so 72 Watts)
Tinybox#9112: 72+75, even below TDP
Tinybox#9112: And since hes saying his PSU doesn't have a single 8 pin, what is hard to belive..
Tinybox#9112: (and him instead of buying a new psu, selling his 1070)
Tinybox#9112: Think it's a good go?
Tinybox#9112: p.s thomas if u check this out how did the 980ti go?
"Cobs"#1150: tom hasn't done is 980ti yet
"Cobs"#1150: you could do, does he say if he bought it second hand? |
"Cobs"#1150: if the fans don't spin when he tries to power it, its probably fucked
Tinybox#9112: All he says the seller said it might be because of his PSU, so I'd assume so
Tinybox#9112: @"Cobs" ill ask him
"Cobs"#1150: ok
Alcyone#2233: I would assume a $65 1070 is dead
Tinybox#9112: @Alcyone He said the PC was running a lil bit and then turned off, and he couldn't tell if the fans were spinning
Rio#1000: theres two possibilities
Alcyone#2233: I'm with your original suspicions of why someone would just say "oh well I'll sell it for 1/4 of its value".
Rio#1000: 1: boom
2: it shut off to prevent boom and its fine
Rio#1000: 3: hes full of shit
Alcyone#2233: obviously not a wealthy individual if they cant afford a proper psu. So I would think the lost money would make a difference and they would have attempted other means to get the card functioning
Alcyone#2233: Like the untested items on ebay.
We tested it and it didnt work, so we "untested" it and put it on ebay
Rio#1000: ive gambled on one untested item |
Rio#1000: it paid off
Tinybox#9112: I think I won't go for it, even tho it's a STRIX.
Tinybox#9112: asked him "was there a picture then, if the PC was running for a short amunt"
he said no screen.
And the cooler cant make back the value
Xènius#8267: Mean even if he's honest still a good chance the gpu got messed up
Tinybox#9112: The most suspicious thing for me is,
Tinybox#9112: So he would sell his 1070 that he probably bought for 250 STRIX used.
Tried it with his 10 buck psu.
.Doesn't work.
"Seller says its his PSU"
Instead of buying a new psu, sells GTX 1070 for less than 1/4 of what he bought it for??!
Xènius#8267: Yah they probably broke of found a broken one just trying to scam some one and flip it
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Need some help deciding what to do with getting a new laptop
Evvy#0001: do heatsinks actually matter on ram if you're not overclocking it |
Jamie.Cullen#8363: No
Jamie.Cullen#8363: I havent overclocked mine
Evvy#0001: Oh I was asking for myself lol, not with your new laptop
wapted#6788: derp sorry, didnt see it was for ram
wapted#6788: no doesnt rlly matter
wapted#6788: just general case airflow is enough, even with overclocked modules
Jamie.Cullen#8363: I have a surface 3
Jamie.Cullen#8363: but the screen is broken
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Do i get it fixed or a new laptop?
wapted#6788: Laptop choice depends on your needs, portability, application wise etc?
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Need it for computing course in college
wapted#6788: is that with the atom?
Jamie.Cullen#8363: ??
Evvy#0001: atom CPU
Jamie.Cullen#8363: I'm 99% sure surface 3 doesnt come with an atom |
Jamie.Cullen#8363: mine has an i3
Jamie.Cullen#8363: pretty sure
Jamie.Cullen#8363: else its an i5
Xènius#8267: If you're not over clocking ram then it dosnt matter but 8d get 9ne with a heat sink if you were
Jamie.Cullen#8363: its an i5
Jam#0384: I love getting told my GTX 1080 is low end and cannot run modern games
Jam#0384: :Hahahahaha:
Jam#0384: im pretty sure it can still do 4K 30fps high in tons of games
Jam#0384: I prefer 1440p 60+fps or 1080p though.
Evvy#0001: pf
Evvy#0001: some dude laughed at me for wanting to render videos with a vega 56
Jam#0384: Vega 56 is still at LEAST upper midrange
Evvy#0001: yee
Jam#0384: Personally, I'd consider it lower highend but that's just because of the way I look at things.
JustinXenyx#8854: I love getting told my GTX 660 is low end and cannot run modern games |
:Hahahahaha:
im pretty sure it can still do 720p 30fps high in tons of games
I prefer 480p 60+fps or 360p though.
Evvy#0001: I could buy two 56's for the price of their shiddy 1080ti c':
Jam#0384: RTX 2080Ti performance is Enthusiast, where RTX 2080, 2070, GTX 1080/Ti, Radeon 7, 1070Ti , Vega 64, Vega FE, Vega 56, 1070 are all high end
Jam#0384: And 980/ 1060 6GB/ RX 570/ etc performance is still midrange
Evvy#0001: yee
Alcyone#2233: I played fo4 at 1280x800 40-60 fps on a gtx 560 and 4gb 1333. ram was holding it back worse than the gpu was https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/566736696939511808/4gb_dram_fo4.jpg
Saix856#2556: What would you say is the best gpu used under $60?
TheFifthAce#4128: rx 470
Evvy#0001: gt710 c:
Xènius#8267: I mean 1080p x 16 antialised is practically 4k when a lot 9f games don't have 4k textures and junk anyway
SanteRaptor#2609: So half a year ago i built a 775 pc but the psu seemingly blew causing a burning smell to come from that brown spot on the board after i left the pc on for 1 and a half hours after installing an ssd in the system. At no point did the system turn off alone before it was unplugged.
The psu is now lobg gone and I have a new one. So my question is is this board usable anymore or has it been ruined by that brown spot? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/566906469467815946/IMG_20190414_113817.jpg |
SanteRaptor#2609: One possible other reason that was thrown around was that the....southbridge(?) couldnt take the ssd
SanteRaptor#2609: As the PC had been working perfectly before it was installed for days
SanteRaptor#2609: Only reason Im asking this are that Ive run out of 775 boards, that board uses ddr3, and that it was my first ever 775 board
SanteRaptor#2609: @Tech Helper
Im sorry
JustinXenyx#8854: @SanteRaptor Depending on what kind of damage the PSU has done it either is still fine or ready for the bin
SanteRaptor#2609: I have never seen an answer as neutral as that one
Evvy#0001: I mean if it blows up again it won't matter
Deinsti#5907: The old PSU is gone
Evvy#0001: yes
Deinsti#5907: But yes, it depends what damage has been done beforehand
JustinXenyx#8854: I mean, if you're really unlucky it also could be that the motherboard caused that explosion and the PSU was not at fault
Evvy#0001: Ye, but the new psu wouldn't blow up |
Evvy#0001: ~~right?~~
SanteRaptor#2609: All the damage it did was burn some of the surface on that single spot of copper
JustinXenyx#8854: Thats visual damage though
JustinXenyx#8854: What about the potential damage thats not visible?
SanteRaptor#2609: There were no artifacts on the video output, it didnt crash in win 7, so Im not sure what kind of damage you mean
JustinXenyx#8854: Something must've caused this. Either it was the fault of the PSU or it was related due to failing components on the motherboard that let to this
SanteRaptor#2609: So the SSD thing is off the table?
JustinXenyx#8854: nope, a SSD is not able to cause that kind of damage
Deinsti#5907: SSD's and even HDD's cannot pull enough power to cause so much damage
SanteRaptor#2609: How much heat does celeron d make?
Deinsti#5907: Which model?
Deinsti#5907: @SanteRaptor Celeron D's use between 73W and 84W so as it's P4 cousin it can run quite hot
SanteRaptor#2609: Okay, i did a test
SanteRaptor#2609: OH
SanteRaptor#2609: I think I made a mistake |
JustinXenyx#8854: @Deinsti They don't use that, TDP is just a measurement of heat output lol
Deinsti#5907: Under full load
Deinsti#5907: Though also considering it's NetBurst and those are notoriously hot regardless
Evvy#0001: heat output is still important tho
JustinXenyx#8854: but heat output ain't power consumption @Evvy
Evvy#0001: ye
JustinXenyx#8854: i'd bet it goes even over 85W power consumption under a full load btw
Deinsti#5907: But depending on how much power the CPU takes also factors how much heat it can output
Evvy#0001: it bothers me how hidden power consumption is with cpus c':
Deinsti#5907: @JustinXenyx I mean, is there anything else than can determine how much power it uses?
JustinXenyx#8854: I can see why they don't put it on a spec sheet, because its not that easy to define @Evvy
Deinsti#5907: Unless directly monitoring the cpu itself
JustinXenyx#8854: @Deinsti Realistically, only real-world tests
Deinsti#5907: Exactly
SanteRaptor#2609: New test result: |
Evvy#0001: tru
Deinsti#5907: So without the cpu, the TDP is your best bet sadly
SanteRaptor#2609: It turned on and got to keyboard error screen with a PCIe dvi adapter card
JustinXenyx#8854: I mean, as a safe measure, when i don't know the power consumption, i use the TDP as a baseline and add like 40-50W to it (depending on the chip) to get a worst case scenario on stock use
Deinsti#5907: For worst case scenario true I guess
Deinsti#5907: Though also really bearing in mind that unless it's a workstation the computer won't be constantly working under max load
SanteRaptor#2609: Okay
SanteRaptor#2609: Time fort
SanteRaptor#2609: The first full system boot
SanteRaptor#2609: Wish me luck
SanteRaptor#2609: Theos on the hdd is fecked
SanteRaptor#2609: Uodate on update
SanteRaptor#2609: The connector on the hdd broke off
SanteRaptor#2609: Rip
SanteRaptor#2609: Motherfucker tried to boot from ethernet |
SanteRaptor#2609: Usb hdd somehow works
SanteRaptor#2609: What a weird pile of arse this is
SanteRaptor#2609: @Tech Helper for how long should i let this thing run debian for to confirm its functioning and not fucked in some way?
SanteRaptor#2609: It doesn't smell like an electrical fire
SanteRaptor#2609: So id say this is a success
SanteRaptor#2609: Hooray!
Alex V1 is back in business
SanteRaptor#2609: Weird
SanteRaptor#2609: As Alex v3 also exist nowdays
Evvy#0001: yes
Jam#0384: Alex is ded
!Gerbs!#4897: i need some help with my imac g3
!Gerbs!#4897: @Evvy can u help?
Evvy#0001: never done anything with macs
!Gerbs!#4897: do you know anyone who does? |
Evvy#0001: there was a guy who posted his videos of working on some mac laptops in #πΊadvertisementsπΊ a while back
!Gerbs!#4897: ok
!Gerbs!#4897: anyone who can help me, dm me
!Gerbs!#4897: also, i cant get portal running at 1920 x 1080
!Gerbs!#4897: sorry again but @Evvy
Evvy#0001: idk man, i'm pretty busy rn too
!Gerbs!#4897: oh sorry
SuSSudio#2688: How much does CSGO consumes RAM during gameplay? Cause everytime i quit to desktop the HDD usage blow up to 100% usage..
Deinsti#5907: @!Gerbs! I have an iMac G3 so I can help out
TheGeekster#8508: HDD usage? or do you mean RAM usage? @SuSSudio
Deinsti#5907: @TheGeekster RAM
Deinsti#5907: Cause he means it probably pushes out a lot of Windows components out of RAM which it then reloads when the game is closed
Deinsti#5907: Hence max HDD usage
TheGeekster#8508: i... i mean... if he has 4gb of ram of less, maybe, that's a bit of a stretch tho π
Deinsti#5907: He might do |
Deinsti#5907: Windows 10 is especially RAM hungry
TheFifthAce#4128: @SuSSudio csgo doesnt unload the map until you leave the game
TheFifthAce#4128: That's why going from game to title screen is basically lag free
TheFifthAce#4128: Compared to other games where leaving a server or game it will stutter as it unloads the map
SuSSudio#2688: AHH @TheFifthAce 's really clears it up.. Thx for the explanation!
TheFifthAce#4128: at least, that's the only reasonable explanation
SuSSudio#2688: It was part of my question too on why CSGO seems to run smoothly even with only 4GB of RAM
TheFifthAce#4128: csgo doesn't actually use much ram simply because it uses a mixture of low res textures and texture streamimg
TheFifthAce#4128: If you aren't looking at an area, textures are lowest possible res or unloaded if cpu is fast enough
SuSSudio#2688: Mmm i see
TheFifthAce#4128: ever noticed how the game doesnt change fps too noticeably, even on big maps, even when going inside to outside?
TheFifthAce#4128: thats why
SuSSudio#2688: It is
TheFifthAce#4128: its what really helped make it a great reports game
TheFifthAce#4128: esports |
TheFifthAce#4128: you can run it on a fuckin 5$ k2000 from 8 years ago
TheFifthAce#4128: even now when its super bloated
SuSSudio#2688: The game engine is really well built if it's true, and yeah i'm still running on a C2Q Q9400 + Radeon HD4670
TheFifthAce#4128: Doesnt surprise me
SuSSudio#2688: Still floats around 100fps on everything low & 1366x768
TheFifthAce#4128: mhm
SuSSudio#2688: Except when playing with bots, bunch of them
TheFifthAce#4128: You could get a k2000 and bump res up to 1080p low
TheFifthAce#4128: I find k2000s in the dump all the time
SuSSudio#2688: Quadros aren't really common in my country...
TheFifthAce#4128: ah fair
TheFifthAce#4128: r5 240?
TheFifthAce#4128: hd 8490?
SuSSudio#2688: R7 240 is very common
SuSSudio#2688: The 1GB variant is really cheap |
TheFifthAce#4128: r7 240 is solid depending on the price
TheFifthAce#4128: and on low settings it won't even use all the vram
SuSSudio#2688: Well yeah but i'm not going to play Esports game only...
TheFifthAce#4128: should I bother with windows 10 on an a6 6400k or move straight to linux
TheFifthAce#4128: dual core piledriver without smt
TheFifthAce#4128: basically a pentium with an igpu
SussyBalls#4615: Since when did the Radeon VII ship with this stand?
This is on a used market https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/567321061838946315/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: @SussyBalls that's a photo from a gamersnexus vid I'm p surr
SussyBalls#4615: Really? this is the pic from the ad, the guy also claims he has the stand himself
SussyBalls#4615: He's getting rid of the card + stand because it wasn't suitable to the 3d things he did
SussyBalls#4615: Oh well I'm too poor anyways :Hahahahaha:
DarknessFalls229#2286: How expensive is a water cooler for a GTX 690?
Tinybox#9112: Issue here |
Tinybox#9112: RTX 2070, 4K won't work in Tomb raider.
Tinybox#9112: Connected VIA DP
Tinybox#9112: max res 2560x1140
@Tech Helper or anyone else pls help
DarknessFalls229#2286: can you set 4k resolution in the windows settings?
Tinybox#9112: a min
Tinybox#9112: ye
Tinybox#9112: @DarknessFalls229
DarknessFalls229#2286: but the game wont allow it to be set to 4k?
DarknessFalls229#2286: hmmm strange
MythologicalZ#3752: You sure it's in full screen?
MythologicalZ#3752: Sounds like a borderless thing to me
DarknessFalls229#2286: set it to full screen or windowed fullscreen
Tinybox#9112: alright
DarknessFalls229#2286: @MythologicalZ actually, should we obey the rules and just say to google it first next time? or just help whenever? |
Tinybox#9112: worked
Tinybox#9112: thx guys
MythologicalZ#3752: Eh idc personally unless the same person asks repetitive questions that are basic enough for google on a regular basis @DarknessFalls229
DarknessFalls229#2286: fair
DarknessFalls229#2286: and nice job @Tinybox, youre welcome
Tinybox#9112: yea sorry about that..really basic...question..
Tinybox#9112: I spent time googling...I guess I just didn't check around enough.
TheFifthAce#4128: my laptop processor is ass, do I use rasterizing or opengl for emulation
DarknessFalls229#2286: oh well, everyone has their troubles and folks usually dont mind you asking.
TheFifthAce#4128: http://prntscr.com/nc7j1l
DarknessFalls229#2286: couldnt say really, why not test each option for what performance it gives
JustinXenyx#8854: @TheFifthAce don't do software shite
TheFifthAce#4128: :OWOthink:
JustinXenyx#8854: only taxes the CPU more than it needs too
TheFifthAce#4128: whatdya mean |
TheFifthAce#4128: I'm using a DS emulator
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx
TheFifthAce#4128: http://prntscr.com/nc7wsm
JustinXenyx#8854: afaik, the SoftRasterizer isn't using the GPU, but the CPU to render the graphics
TheFifthAce#4128: ok
TheFifthAce#4128: so opengl time
Tinybox#9112: eh
Tinybox#9112: I might as well settle for a more basic PC
Tinybox#9112: rx 480 + i5 2500k
thatubuntuguy#5914: good choice
thatubuntuguy#5914: just don't overspend on the board and you'll be ok
Tinybox#9112: I wont d:
Tinybox#9112: I could wait around for a gtx 1070
JustinXenyx#8854: nah, don't go with a 1070 for a 2500k
thatubuntuguy#5914: ^ |
thatubuntuguy#5914: it will bottleneck
MythologicalZ#3752: Would avoid 4c/4t Sandy for the most part tbh
thatubuntuguy#5914: get a 2600
Tinybox#9112: aight
Tinybox#9112: ill see if I can get a 2600k
thatubuntuguy#5914: go ahead
thatubuntuguy#5914: theyre about Β£70 on taobao
Tinybox#9112: nah, nah ill go on my local market
SuSSudio#2688: https://wccftech.com/rumor-amd-navi-debuting-at-e3-launching-july-7-with-rtx-2080-class-performance/
SuSSudio#2688: https://wccftech.com/apple-a13-reportedly-using-tsmc-7nm-n7-pro-process/
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Omg so exciting....
RandomTacos#3695: Is it worth upgrading to a vega 64 from a 1070?
TheFifthAce#4128: ehhhhhhh
SanteRaptor#2609: Not really
TheFifthAce#4128: yeah no |
SanteRaptor#2609: I can say that as i did that
TheFifthAce#4128: I'd wait for navi, then nab a 1080
SuSSudio#2688: I'd do the same
RandomTacos#3695: Ok cool
RandomTacos#3695: I just saw a pair of red devils for about $210 each and was curious
MythologicalZ#3752: 210 is great for a 64
TheFifthAce#4128: 210 isnt bad
TheFifthAce#4128: I'd snag if you can do it
TheFifthAce#4128: @RandomTacos
RandomTacos#3695: Oh, ok
RandomTacos#3695: I'll probably end up selling my 1070 to get the money
TheFifthAce#4128: yeah
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: guys steam didnt detect my game when i installed steam
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: should i copy the game to common?
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: i am rn |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: i hope it works
ΕnieΕΌka#3486: does any1 in here have a galaxy a7 2018 and has somehow turned off adapt sound? if so please tell me how
Flannel84#2980: Does anyone know where I could find Legacy BIOS/Firmware for a EVGA GT 640 or if there is a way to check the current card BIOS? EVGA says the BIOS the card shipped with are legacy and should work, yet the card won't which leads me to believe that the card has been flashed to UEFI at some point.
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Flannel84 I think you can find a bios on techpowerup, just search gt 640 bios. And usually one uses NVFlash to flash a new bios to nvidia cards, with the program you can check your current bios and save it for a backup aswell
DarknessFalls229#2286: Only disadvantage is that you need to use command prompt to fully use nvflash
Flannel84#2980: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/130178/evga-gt640-2048-120511 like this?
And how hard is it for a novice/someone just starting?
DarknessFalls229#2286: It takes a bit to figure out nvflash, i recommend watching a few tutorials
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Flannel84 What it comes down to is going to your nvflash map in command prompt using cd x/y/z/nvflash. Then you have to use commands like nvflash64 --save, nvflash64 --index=0 -6 gt640.rom, nvflash64 --protectoff
DarknessFalls229#2286: Typing a wrong command results in the program showing the command list
Flannel84#2980: I'll have to verify the bios versions with EVGA first but this seems like my last possibility of getting the card to work if the BIOS were flashed previously
DarknessFalls229#2286: Could also just be doa. If theres no visual defect and a bios flash also doesnt do anything then RMA it
stickys.party.hat γ^_^γ#2076: So i have read that if it is a service specific model you cannot custom rom a phone, i have an at&t model galaxy s4 and i am just curious if this is true or not, i read with the s4 only 2 models are rommable they were like the touchwiz model or some shit any help or info is appreciated
JustinXenyx#8854: @stickys.party.hat γ^_^γ Is the bootloader locked on your S4?
JustinXenyx#8854: Because it always depends on if your bootloader is locked and if its unlockable |
JustinXenyx#8854: @Rio you probably know a bit more than i do on this topic lol
thatubuntuguy#5914: fastboot unlock won't work?
thatubuntuguy#5914: i know nothing about this dont rely on me
Rio#1000: nah you dont use fastboot on s4s
Rio#1000: @stickys.party.hat γ^_^γ can you download aida64 and send a screenshot
Rio#1000: of the system tab
Rio#1000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/567437304235425812/Screenshot_20190416-055258_AIDA64.jpg
Rio#1000: like this
Flannel84#2980: @DarknessFalls229 I've popped in a good machine and it produces an input so I know that it's a good card, it just doesn't work in the older system.
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Flannel84 Oh. Well that was also a possibility i forgot to consider, but nice to know that it works
Flannel84#2980: ya it's odd, a gtx 560ti works, but a gt 640 is no good.
Flannel84#2980: I've also tried different powersupplies with it and other junk
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/420759591534460939/567455604231372815/image0.jpg
Deleted User#0000: I have ONE thing that I need to complete this build
Evvy#0001: a power supply |
Deleted User#0000: >_>
Deleted User#0000: It has one
Jam#0384: Nice Pentium2
Jam#0384: unless thats a 3 then my bad
Jam#0384: Bc i have a slot 1 3 as well
Tinybox#9112: Smart to ship a motherboard with ram installed?
Or without?
TheFifthAce#4128: @Tinybox without installef
Deleted User#0000: @Tinybox without would be better, but as long as it's packed well enough, it wouldn't be a problem.
Deleted User#0000: Several layers of bubble wrap, etc
Evvy#0001: Ye, also a piece of carboard between the sticks
Evvy#0001: or something to fill the space. Either way if someone doesn't know how to put ram back in they probably shouldn't have a computer c':
Propane.Consumer#9830: Does anyone know if the old touch screen pc I have could be converted into almost a secondary monitor that allows for it to be used as almost like a drawing tablet kinda thing?
DarknessFalls229#2286: Hey guys look at what i got https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/567631430012764161/20190416_104020.jpg
Rinis#2222: Cool |
DarknessFalls229#2286: okay, okay yeah thats the 690 i already have
DarknessFalls229#2286: But wait, whats that? A watercooled 690?? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/567631583448793098/20190416_104107.jpg
Rinis#2222: Awesome
JustinXenyx#8854: so you got one half working 690 and a fully working one? nice lol
DarknessFalls229#2286: WIAT WHAT IS THAT?????? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/567631718408912896/20190416_104121.jpg
JustinXenyx#8854: @Propane.Consumer It can be done, but it definitely isnt easy depending on what laptop etc
DarknessFalls229#2286: THREE GTX 690s??
DarknessFalls229#2286: Hell yeah https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/567631846385516554/20190416_104135.jpg
DarknessFalls229#2286: so what do you all think about that? i got two watercooled 690s for 120 euro
Evvy#0001: that's not a bad deal at all lol
Evvy#0001: compared to me trying to buy a 660Ti a while back and finding no single cards under $90
Techo#7399: Oh
Techo#7399: Thats a bloody good deal
DarknessFalls229#2286: too bad i havent got a watercooling setup, but atleast i can steal the cooler from my old 690
Techo#7399: I would offer to buy one since i have a somewhat cooling equipment |
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