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thatubuntuguy#5914: does the keyboard do nothing
JustinXenyx#8854: very likely its a MSI board
JustinXenyx#8854: MSI was popular with pre-built manufacturers among the 775 days
Deleted User#0000: F12 does nothing and neither does del https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/569910891756126233/image0.jpg
thatubuntuguy#5914: try different keyboard
Deleted User#0000: the keyboard lights up
thatubuntuguy#5914: different slot
Deleted User#0000: will do
Deleted User#0000: a second keyboard does nothing either
Deleted User#0000: and nor do different slots
thatubuntuguy#5914: hmmm
Deleted User#0000: i think it’s an issue with the whole system itself as I was having issues with it giving a display
thatubuntuguy#5914: what happens upon reset
Deleted User#0000: brings me back to the American mega trends menu
thatubuntuguy#5914: which does nothing? |
Deleted User#0000: wait, when I pressed f12 something just happened
Deleted User#0000: it now says”boot selection pop up menu has been selected”
thatubuntuguy#5914: nice
Deleted User#0000: Gonna try reset the bios again
Deleted User#0000: back at the bios screen where I can’t do anything oof
Deleted User#0000: if I hold f12, it starts ticking
Deleted User#0000: tried to boot off a windows install disk and no luck
HappySlappyFace#0441: hey
HappySlappyFace#0441: im here
HappySlappyFace#0441: @Deleted User did u get it to work
Deleted User#0000: nope
Deleted User#0000: @HappySlappyFace
HappySlappyFace#0441: did it work before cmos reset at all
Deleted User#0000: swapped out the cmos and I’ve got a black screen with a little flashing bar
Deleted User#0000: idk I bought it from a car boot |
Deleted User#0000: cleaned it up and when I put it back together it was acting up
HappySlappyFace#0441: so it never booted in first place?
Deleted User#0000: not that I know of, it might have before I took it apart ?
HappySlappyFace#0441: possible but unlikely
Deleted User#0000: swapped out the cmos battery and it’s just a black screen with a small flashing bar now
HappySlappyFace#0441: how much did u get it for
Deleted User#0000: £4
HappySlappyFace#0441: was it too cheap
HappySlappyFace#0441: oh
HappySlappyFace#0441: wait
HappySlappyFace#0441: so it doesnt even post now
HappySlappyFace#0441: ?
Deleted User#0000: nah it’s just a black screen but has a little flashing bar
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/569926993035132938/image0.jpg
HappySlappyFace#0441: hmm |
Deleted User#0000: now I’m back to the acer bios start menu thingy
HappySlappyFace#0441: okay
HappySlappyFace#0441: pic
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/569927201324007427/image0.jpg
Deleted User#0000: can’t go anywhere from there though
HappySlappyFace#0441: f12 and f2?
HappySlappyFace#0441: i mean f12 and del
Deleted User#0000: tried both
Deleted User#0000: if I hold f12 it makes a noise from the mobo
HappySlappyFace#0441: try another kb
HappySlappyFace#0441: preferably ps2
Deleted User#0000: I am using ps2
Deleted User#0000: and I’ve tried usb
HappySlappyFace#0441: hmm
HappySlappyFace#0441: remove everything unnecessary |
Deleted User#0000: already have
Deleted User#0000: it’s on an open air bench rn
HappySlappyFace#0441: ram?
Deleted User#0000: it’s got a 2gb stick but I’ll swap it out
Deleted User#0000: I don’t get a display now
Deleted User#0000: so I believe the ram is dead that I’m using rn
Deleted User#0000: now I don’t get a display with the ram is was originally using
HappySlappyFace#0441: yea
HappySlappyFace#0441: try another ram
Deleted User#0000: so the stick of ram which works now doesn’t work
HappySlappyFace#0441: idk
HappySlappyFace#0441: im telling you to try another one
HappySlappyFace#0441: there is no reason why it wouldnt boot
Deleted User#0000: I have and it didn’t work
Deleted User#0000: is it possible to brick a motherboard ? |
HappySlappyFace#0441: wdym brick and how
Deleted User#0000: idk just like is it possible to make a motherboard not work but still be able to boot?
HappySlappyFace#0441: there are ways to brick a mobo like fucking up bios update
Deleted User#0000: ah well this might be what has happened here idk
HappySlappyFace#0441: what
HappySlappyFace#0441: did you update bios
Deleted User#0000: nope
Deleted User#0000: I haven’t been even able to get into the proper bios
Deleted User#0000: I can’t even get a display now
Deleted User#0000: got a display again, back at the white acer start screen
Rinis#2222: is the the 2600x compatible with A320
with a bios update
JustinXenyx#8854: its compatible, but absolutely not worth it @Rinis
Rinis#2222: I know but a friend of mine has a320 and can get the 2600 for 40
Rinis#2222: euros |
Rinis#2222: My brother is selling it
Rinis#2222: the memory will be shite though, afaik the a320s run at just 2122mhz
Rinis#2222: not too sure
DarknessFalls229#2286: selling a 2600 for 40?? i wants
DarknessFalls229#2286: _as i still need to upgrade my pc_
DarknessFalls229#2286: _but also sell other shite so i can buy more stuff_
JustinXenyx#8854: no, the A320's are mem oc capable @Rinis
Rinis#2222: fr?
DarknessFalls229#2286: OC to like 3000mhz?
DarknessFalls229#2286: though i doubt it on 2133 ram
Rinis#2222: nah nah i mean
Rinis#2222: i thought the max speed on ram was 2k something herz
DarknessFalls229#2286: for DDR4? nah, that stuff can clock higher
DarknessFalls229#2286: unless you mean something like 2666
DarknessFalls229#2286: but 2933 might do |
Rinis#2222: REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Rinis#2222: ok
Rinis#2222: let me redo this
Rinis#2222: isnt a320 capping anything >2k something mhz
DarknessFalls229#2286: doesnt really say on AMDs website that it limits ram speed
DarknessFalls229#2286: i think it might be up to the manufacturer for it
DarknessFalls229#2286: what board does your friend have?
Rinis#2222: nvm
Rinis#2222: it says it supports up to 3200
DarknessFalls229#2286: alright, thats solved
TheFifthAce#4128: @Rinis a320 wouldn't be awful depending on the board
TheFifthAce#4128: I'd personally just buy the 2600 just to have it
TheFifthAce#4128: buy a motherboard later
Rinis#2222: he already has the motherboard
TheFifthAce#4128: yes I meant a b450 |
TheFifthAce#4128: but an a320 should be sufficient
TheFifthAce#4128: just dont oc at all
TheFifthAce#4128: which a320 is it @Rinis
Rinis#2222: an asrock uh
Rinis#2222: a320m if im correct
TheFifthAce#4128: hdv?
TheFifthAce#4128: a320m is vague
Rinis#2222: im not sure
Rinis#2222: ill ask im later
TheFifthAce#4128: prolly the dgs
Rinis#2222: hdv
TheFifthAce#4128: that should be fine
TheFifthAce#4128: prolly gonna get some toasty vrms
TheFifthAce#4128: but as long as you have fans on them it should be ok
RandomTacos#3695: Considering getting a mini itx case |
RandomTacos#3695: I'm currently looking at the Thermaltake Core V1
RandomTacos#3695: Any thoughts?
JustinXenyx#8854: there literally is a a320m board from asrock @Rinis @TheFifthAce
JustinXenyx#8854: https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/A320M/index.asp
Rinis#2222: nice
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx yes
TheFifthAce#4128: but two variants
TheFifthAce#4128: https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/A320M-DGS/index.asp
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/A320M-HDV/index.asp
JustinXenyx#8854: are you dumb
JustinXenyx#8854: i literally linked it :Hahahahaha:
TheFifthAce#4128: yes
TheFifthAce#4128: you did
TheFifthAce#4128: but like I said
TheFifthAce#4128: 2 variants |
TheFifthAce#4128: dgs doesnt have onboard vga is the main difference iirc @JustinXenyx
TheFifthAce#4128: oh and no hdmi
Galilool#3398: @Deleted User is your screen bent?
Galilool#3398: it looks like it is damaged on the 2nd photo
TheFifthAce#4128: r7 240 vs hd 8490
JustinXenyx#8854: HD8490 is Terascale
thatubuntuguy#5914: 7000 = gcn 8000 = terascale makes sense innit
thatubuntuguy#5914: Gt 610 = fermi
thatubuntuguy#5914: 6xx = Kepler
thatubuntuguy#5914: Makes sense innit
thatubuntuguy#5914: But 6000 is also terascale
thatubuntuguy#5914: :FeelsRetardedMan:
JustinXenyx#8854: HD8490 is comparable to the GT610, R7 240 is comparable to the GT730 Kepler DDR3
JustinXenyx#8854: also, the many versions NVIDIA has of their GT7xx cards is confusing as fuck @thatubuntuguy
TheFifthAce#4128: I thought 8490 was comparable to fermi 730 |
JustinXenyx#8854: i don't know performance figures for the fermi 730, so i can't put them into context
TheFifthAce#4128: worse than intel uhd 630
JustinXenyx#8854: its probably right inbetween a Fermi 730 and a GT610 then
JustinXenyx#8854: I still need to find some performance figures for the GDDR5 GT710
JustinXenyx#8854: i can't find any of those on the web
Jam#0384: R7 250 is slightly better than a GT 730
Jam#0384: and the r7 250 just happens to be my #5 most powerful gpu
HappySlappyFace#0441: So ur pc is posting or no
HappySlappyFace#0441: @Prec1sioN
Evvy#0001: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/430206626864300064/570038860097257473/IMG_20190422_201030.jpg
Evvy#0001: y'all think this is enough packing
TheFifthAce#4128: yeah
Rio#1000: @TheFifthAce theres also a pro4 iirc
Rio#1000: https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/A320M%20Pro4/index.asp
TheFifthAce#4128: ye |
SuSSudio#2688: die shrink of microchips are ever getting smaller & smaller.. https://wccftech.com/tsmc-3d-wow-packaging-5nm/
JustinXenyx#8854: @Jam yeah but with what kinda VRAM?
JustinXenyx#8854: there is a GDDR3 and a GDDR5 version
Jam#0384: I think mine is 2gb G3
Jam#0384: which is why 460 gtx pulls ahead
Rio#1000: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Riog1me/saved/MfsYHx
Rio#1000: opinions?
TheGeekster#8508: looks alreet
TheGeekster#8508: that'll do... most things
TheFifthAce#4128: 8gb 🤢
thatubuntuguy#5914: ok gamer
Rio#1000: @TheFifthAce ill upgrade down the line
TheFifthAce#4128: ok
JustinXenyx#8854: @Rio looks neat for a non-K skylake rig
Tinybox#9112: Whatcha guys think of this finished "Workstation PC" |
For editing and 3D modelling...for a friend of my friend..
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZyPQkd
Tinybox#9112: yea..I posted it in the wrong chat before..
JustinXenyx#8854: @Tinybox Everythings alright except that PSU
Tinybox#9112: recommendations?
JustinXenyx#8854: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bqVD4D/corsair-rmx-2018-550w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020177-na yeet
Tinybox#9112: hm ok.
Tinybox#9112: whatcha think about this one? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WrNypg/seasonic-focus-plus-gold-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-650fx
MythologicalZ#3752: Either are fine for that rig
Jam#0384: not as fine as @MythologicalZ
MythologicalZ#3752: 💋
Jam#0384: :Heyyy:
Render#9275: wat is this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/570317134383808512/1260967912.th.159849.jpg
Render#9275: i found this from the internet
TheGeekster#8508: Please google this crash, we aren't going to know what a random error message from what looks like a prehistoric virtual machine is going to be |
Render#9275: oh
TheFifthAce#4128: @Rio
TheFifthAce#4128: What macbook is this
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/570337664960692224/Capture_2019-04-23-15-57-52.png
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/570337755410989056/Capture_2019-04-23-15-58-31.png
Jam#0384: A MacBook not worth $54
Jam#0384: Just look at it
Jam#0384: I'd pay like $20 tops
TheFifthAce#4128: it looks very plastic
Jam#0384: It's a cheaper and much older model for sure
TheFifthAce#4128: I'ma see if I can find out model
Jam#0384: I'd rather spend the money on some GCN card, tbh.
TheFifthAce#4128: if it's not a c2d/c2q
TheFifthAce#4128: then I can resell
TheFifthAce#4128: or give to sister |
TheFifthAce#4128: :LUL:
TheFifthAce#4128: ok
Jam#0384: It looks like C2D
JustinXenyx#8854: Black Core 2 Duo Macbooks are available from 2006-Early 2008
JustinXenyx#8854: Black Core Duo ones are availble from 2006
JustinXenyx#8854: But all of them use shitty Intel GMA graphics
JustinXenyx#8854: probably fine for web browsing but thats basically it
Tinybox#9112: My low end GMA stuff , was capable of playing roblox games at 5-40FPs
Rysing Dragoon#5628: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/570368300702236703/20190423_175716.jpg
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Anyone know what this means?
JustinXenyx#8854: I usually see that when the system has something unstable to it @Rysing Dragoon
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Oh my god
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Is my motherboard registering a full turbo clock "unstable"
Rysing Dragoon#5628: It's clocked at 4.1 ghz in case you were wondering
JustinXenyx#8854: It doesnt need to be the CPU, it can be something else too |
Rysing Dragoon#5628: oh god
Rysing Dragoon#5628: What could it be
Rio#1000: @TheFifthAce its a c2d
Rio#1000: however black macbooks are rare
Rio#1000: and worth a decent chunk of change to the right person
TheFifthAce#4128: @Rio so should I see if he'll take 30
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/570377769897426964/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: huh
Rio#1000: exactly, and thats what people have bidded
Rio#1000: basically they offered the black macbook as an option, and it was like $200 more or some shit
Rio#1000: so nobody bought it
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/570378046154997796/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: **huh**
TheFifthAce#4128: 178$
Rio#1000: ive seen them go for over 500 with the box |
Evvy#0001: damn
Evvy#0001: it's exceptionally weird that the guy selling it only wants $54 now
Bwenfwake#6869: Eyyy bois, I've got like 7 of those lyin around at my place. Mainly 2009 ones
Bwenfwake#6869: So c2d with NVIDIA GeForce 9400M and 4GB RAM
Bwenfwake#6869: Not bad little systems
Bwenfwake#6869: Especially when using an SSD and Linux
Jeffrey#9213: Which is better: 2gb of dual channel ram or 3gb ram?
Bwenfwake#6869: Probs 3GB ngl
Jeffrey#9213: I actually tried this out and the 2gb is much faster
Bwenfwake#6869: Oh damn
Bwenfwake#6869: By how much?
Evvy#0001: depends on what you're running tho, don't it?
Jeffrey#9213: It removed the general stuttering I was having
Bwenfwake#6869: hmmmm
Jeffrey#9213: although https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/570403125656027171/unknown.png |
Bwenfwake#6869: ooof
Jeffrey#9213: I haven't even attempted running csgo
Jeffrey#9213: :OmegaxD:
Bwenfwake#6869: dew it
Jeffrey#9213: lemme try it
Jeffrey#9213: tbh firefox was using most of it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/570403436747816960/unknown.png
Bwenfwake#6869: lololol
Jeffrey#9213: I did order 8gb of ram
Jeffrey#9213: so just waiting for it
Jeffrey#9213: It barely worked
Jeffrey#9213: many stutters @Bwenfwake
Bwenfwake#6869: So sad, what's the rest of the build?
Jeffrey#9213: Phenom II X4 820
Jeffrey#9213: HD 6770
Bwenfwake#6869: Yeah ya need more RAM then haha |
Jeffrey#9213: Yeah, its coming in the mail/post
Bwenfwake#6869: Aha yeah ik. Is it ya main build or?...
Jeffrey#9213: Yeah
Jeffrey#9213: My laptop battery bit the dust, and I wanted something a bit more realiable than a laptop
Bwenfwake#6869: Yeah that's fair enough. Might as well get something to game on too eh
Jeffrey#9213: Yeah
Jeffrey#9213: CSGO did work on 3gb ram
Jeffrey#9213: but I'd rather not live with general stutters
Bwenfwake#6869: Yeah that's fair enough. What's ya next upgrade do ya think?
Jeffrey#9213: Nothing at the moment
Jeffrey#9213: a case would be nice lol
Bwenfwake#6869: Ah cool, so apart from the ram absolutely nothing?
Bwenfwake#6869: and case...
Jeffrey#9213: a wifi card would be a nice upgrade
Bwenfwake#6869: Nah, don't need one of those. Wired is bae |
Jeffrey#9213: Oh yeah, I would go with that any day
Bwenfwake#6869: Heck yeah, ethernet all day every day https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/570408914227560448/unknown.png
Bwenfwake#6869: But seriously tho, what kinda games do ya play and what FPS?
Jeffrey#9213: Fable, World of Warcraft (vanilla), Diner Dash, CSGO, Skyrim, etc
Bwenfwake#6869: And they all run alright?
Jeffrey#9213: Yeah, haven't tested them on 2gb of ram yet
Bwenfwake#6869: I can imagine not amazingly well haha
Bwenfwake#6869: But it's alright, ik ya struggles. I ran 2GB ram with my first build and had much worse specs yet still *tried* to play all the games I had
Jeffrey#9213: If i was running xp i'd be fine tbh
Deleted User#0000: @Jeffrey the only way ur going to get good results with 2gb ram is if ur running xp or linux
Deleted User#0000: 200mb ram usage
Bwenfwake#6869: Linux ftw
Bwenfwake#6869: I'm tempted to move to Linux from windows
Bwenfwake#6869: Wanted to do so for a while
Deleted User#0000: I dual boot |
Deleted User#0000: only reason why I still have windows is adobe apps and fortnite
Deleted User#0000: most games work on linux now so
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/570410693312905237/unknown.png
Bwenfwake#6869: Yeah, I'll probs dual boot tbh
Deleted User#0000: @TheFifthAce 2080ti
Deleted User#0000: 44fos
Lady Mipha#0611: Me too
Deleted User#0000: what game wut settings
Deleted User#0000: 2080ti getting 44 fps :Xdxdxd:
Bwenfwake#6869: Oof
Bwenfwake#6869: That's probs no man's sky
Jeffrey#9213: I run windows 7 atm
Lady Mipha#0611: I run a broken Windows 7
Deleted User#0000: battlefield V with 4k with fancy reflextions = <60fps
Bwenfwake#6869: Damn |
TheFifthAce#4128: @Deleted User its more like 60, I just happen to get frame dips
Bwenfwake#6869: Fair enough
Bwenfwake#6869: I'm gonna upgrade my gpu soon
Deleted User#0000: facy reflextions rtx 2080ti only get 60fps
TheFifthAce#4128: and it's a 1060 6gb + r5 2600 on AC origins on max settings
Bwenfwake#6869: Don't ya worry bois
Deleted User#0000: oh
Deleted User#0000: lol
Deleted User#0000: I thought I was like battlefield v with rtx on
Deleted User#0000: *it*
Bwenfwake#6869: Gonna change out my 7970 soon to get that kinda performance
Bwenfwake#6869: To something more powerful
Deleted User#0000: linux work fine on my 5400rpm drive
Hades#7477: Is this a good entry level gaming pc?
Hades#7477: https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/HtnX8Y |
mi3night#2562: @Hades forgot storage bud
Hades#7477: I already have 3tb
Hades#7477: Planning on using that
mi3night#2562: Other wise decent new part list choice
Hades#7477: Will it be able to handle Bf3?
Jam#0384: Battlefield 3?
Deleted User#0000: I mean B450M for an Athlon?
Jam#0384: Thats from like 2011 man
Deleted User#0000: are you planning on overclocking or upgrading?
Deleted User#0000: if you arent
Deleted User#0000: B450M overkill
Hades#7477: Upgrading later on the track
Jam#0384: hades
mi3night#2562: @Hades if ur going used I can make u a better pc
Jam#0384: Do you mean Battlefield 3? |
Hades#7477: Yeah Battlefield 3
Deleted User#0000: BF3 works fine on my core 2 quad so It should work perfectly fine on athlon
Jam#0384: It can handle it no problem
Hades#7477: Oh alright
mi3night#2562: I5 2400 pc be like
mi3night#2562: With 7970
Jam#0384: it can handle BFV
Hades#7477: It can?
Jam#0384: Yeah.
Hades#7477: I thought it would be more intensive
Jam#0384: I mean I never said it was an amazing experience
mi3night#2562: 720p low 30fps to 45
Jam#0384: But it can do it
Deleted User#0000: @Hades if you got a cheaper case and downgraded to gskill value then you could afford ryzen
Deleted User#0000: your choise |
Deleted User#0000: or used
Jam#0384: And with a gpu later on it could run it at Medium or something
Jam#0384: A CPU upgrade would be better
Jam#0384: I’d recommend the Ryzen 3 2200G
Deleted User#0000: ^
Jam#0384: Over the Athlon
Jam#0384: Because it will still hold up when you decide to get a better GPU
Jam#0384: but the APU is also better
Hades#7477: But doesn't the 2200g have heating problems
Deleted User#0000: If you REALLY wanted to skimp if you got a B350 board and cheapo case and ram you could get 1st gen ryzen 5
Jam#0384: Nothing too serious,
Jam#0384: Its fine
Jam#0384: Running with that APU should be fine until you grab a gpu
Deleted User#0000: That apu is a bit slower than my gt 1030 you should be fine
Hades#7477: Yeah that I was planning to do |
Jam#0384: The Athlon is great for the price but really limited as far as running a system longer than 1-2 years
Hades#7477: Ah yeah
Deleted User#0000: are you planning on overclockking
mi3night#2562: Athlon 200ge is like a pentium level?
Deleted User#0000: @mi3night pentium is its competition
Hades#7477: Nahh, it's just a system to get through uni
Jam#0384: With far superior iGPU
Deleted User#0000: pentium doesnt come with igpu thats good
Jam#0384: I’d still take the Ryzen 3
Jam#0384: Because you could still use it after Uni too
Jam#0384: More for you dollar
Jam#0384: That is if you’re going to uni for 4 years
Jam#0384: Like most people
Deleted User#0000: i still use core 2 quad for gaming it still work fine 1080p 30fps so ryzen should get you a long ways
mi3night#2562: well ur losing 2 cores if u get athlon 200ge |
Jam#0384: And slower APU
Jam#0384: Also bottlenecks with beefy gpus
Jam#0384: So upgrades are
Jam#0384: Limited
Deleted User#0000: Ryzen 3 with GTX 1650/1660 RX 570/580 very nice
mi3night#2562: uj
Jam#0384: Yes
mi3night#2562: yuh
Hades#7477: If I were to upgrade I would definitely upgrade both to a proper gpu and cpu
Jam#0384: The ryzen 3 can handle a proper gpu
Jam#0384: No issues
Jam#0384: Athlon cant
mi3night#2562: i mean trying to find a r5 1600 as they're $80-110 in my area
Jam#0384: Also Ryzen 3 APU is more powerful
Hades#7477: They are very expensive here |
Deleted User#0000: as long as you arent getting something like an RTX 2080/2080TI you should be fine
Hades#7477: XD
Deleted User#0000: with a ryzen
mi3night#2562: lmao
mi3night#2562: $50 cpu $1300 gpu
mi3night#2562: ah
Jam#0384: Meme
Hades#7477: Perfect
Deleted User#0000: I use free cpu and 110 dollar gpu
mi3night#2562: dont forget 64gb ddr4 4700mhz ram
Jam#0384: I’m rocking 4770K and GTX 1080
Deleted User#0000: gt 1030 be like 50% waiting for frame at 30C just chilling and CPU be like sun blowing up
mi3night#2562: 4790k rx580
Deleted User#0000: I run core 2 quad with gt 1030
Deleted User#0000: ultra budget |
Jam#0384: Haswell Squad
Deleted User#0000: Im planning on upgrading to a ryzen or sandy i5
Deleted User#0000: all my friends have ryzen and gtx 1080
mi3night#2562: haswell i7 be like FX can i copy ur homework
mi3night#2562: HOT AF
mi3night#2562: need to delid
BiIIу#2519: Wasn't ivy hotter
mi3night#2562: no
BiIIу#2519: :JellyBeanFace:
Jam#0384: my secondary PC is 2600K 4.6GHz 12GB DDR3 and R9 280x OC (My 10603 doesnt work on the board)
mi3night#2562: damn 1060 3gb
Deleted User#0000: literally my cpu usage with several program open https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/570419065403736067/unknown.png
Jam#0384: i have a 1080 and a 10603 for Pascal
Hades#7477: Kde?
Deleted User#0000: I would get linux on that athlon if you just plan on playing steam games |
Jam#0384: I wouldn’t
Hades#7477: I already use linux
Deleted User#0000: less cpu usage
mi3night#2562: im looking forward to x299 cuz sas support
Hades#7477: And I was planning to lol
mi3night#2562: and more pcie lanes
Hades#7477: Dual boot
Deleted User#0000: gets me +40 fps in csgo so I can say linux very good
Deleted User#0000: for old cpus at least
Jam#0384: I can’t wait to go Zen2 or Coffee Lake later this year
Hades#7477: What distro do you use? @Deleted User
mi3night#2562: @Jam should i upgrade to x299 or consumer
Jam#0384: Keeping GTX 1080 in system thpugh
Deleted User#0000: @Hades Kubuntu
Jam#0384: @mi3night Gaming or Productivity? |
mi3night#2562: both
Jam#0384: Consumer
mi3night#2562: more gaming tho
Hades#7477: I use manjaro
Jam#0384: Def Consumer
Deleted User#0000: if you want REALLY light distro get Linux lite/ Lubuntu
Deleted User#0000: no cpu usage at all
Hades#7477: Manjaro is good for me, its light
mi3night#2562: i saw 4tb sas hard drive going for $47 right now on ebay
mi3night#2562: thats 2x cheaper than sata
Deleted User#0000: imma try manjaro
Hades#7477: Xfce is beautiful on it
mi3night#2562: question: whats the difference between sas and sata
Hades#7477: I found KDE as a DE just really intensive for me
Hades#7477: Like gnome |
Hades#7477: @mi3night https://www.diffen.com/difference/SATA_vs_Serial_Attached_SCSI
mi3night#2562: did i just see expensive and less storage...
mi3night#2562: theres literally a 4tb sas hdd for $47
Jam#0384: I would never use anything with a ribbon cable in modern builds
Jam#0384: just nastyy
mi3night#2562: no sas is not ribbon cable
Jam#0384: I know
Jam#0384: I'm just saying because of the picture
mi3night#2562: thats pata some people i know prefer that for nostalgic reasons
Deleted User#0000: I used to use a PATA ide
Deleted User#0000: it isnt THAT bad
mi3night#2562: looks bad
Deleted User#0000: just be prepared to 100% pegged drive usage in windows 10
Deleted User#0000: but I mean it was usuable
Deleted User#0000: I running on 5400 rpm drive rn on linux and its still faster than windows 10 on 7200rpm HDD |
mi3night#2562: macOS on hdd is way worse
TheFifthAce#4128: just get an ex920
Deleted User#0000: I used to have an SSD but that died like 2 months ago
Deleted User#0000: if I can convince my mom to replace it then like
Deleted User#0000: https://www.amazon.com/ADATA-SU655-Internal-ASU655SS-480GT-C-Version/dp/B07DNKKGP8/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=ADATA+SSD&qid=1556069661&s=gateway&sr=8-4
mi3night#2562: imagine having a fx5200 in 2019
Deleted User#0000: i use 12 year old 775 and it works
Deleted User#0000: is fx5200 even better or worse
TheFifthAce#4128: depends
Deleted User#0000: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core2-Quad-Q6600-vs-AMD-FX-8350/1980vs1489
Deleted User#0000: so the fx is like 7 points faster
Deleted User#0000: and thats a 6600 not an higher end c2q
Deleted User#0000: I didnt know FX was THAT bad
mi3night#2562: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_gww3HhjMA
mi3night#2562: i meant the gpu |
Deleted User#0000: oh
Deleted User#0000: lol
Deleted User#0000: 33 fps in that game
Deleted User#0000: oke
Deleted User#0000: that really is special
mi3night#2562: fx8350 is way better than q6600 \
mi3night#2562: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiXkg3-RA8c
Deleted User#0000: FX 8350 vs C2Q extreme?
mi3night#2562: fx8350 came in a can
mi3night#2562: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g64YJj2UQuA
Deleted User#0000: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNqwx0nGslc
Deleted User#0000: I should get a c2ex if I can find it cheap
Deleted User#0000: +30 fps then my c2q in gta v
mi3night#2562: he have a 780ti
mi3night#2562: about 1060 3gb |
TheFifthAce#4128: @Deleted User never use userbenchmark
TheFifthAce#4128: shittiest benchmarking software ever
Deleted User#0000: @mi3night 780ti is most like gtx 1050 but when you overclock it, Then it turns into 1060
Deleted User#0000: 780ti back when Nvidia would actually allow us freedom on cards
TheFifthAce#4128: midnight?
TheFifthAce#4128: @Rio midnight back
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/570434204467200019/unknown.png
Rio#1000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/570434358876307456/image0.png
Rio#1000: teehee
Deleted User#0000: heh
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/570441206308405291/image0.png
mi3night#2562: teehee
JustinXenyx#8854: @Deleted User PLEASE DO NOT USE USERBENCHMARK
Lady Mipha#0611: :Thonking:
Lady Mipha#0611: ? |
JustinXenyx#8854: Its absolute crap, numbers can vary highly from run to run and its numbers aren't even realisticly comparable
GoldenSky#4649: Definitely better than CPU benchmark
GoldenSky#4649: I just look up cinebench scores for a CPU, find the highest and the lowest and go with an in-between value to determine performance (These are usually all non-K Intel CPUs)
TheFifthAce#4128: userbenchmark is worst
TheFifthAce#4128: literally puts your components under load for 2 seconds
TheFifthAce#4128: not a real test by any stretch of the word
TheFifthAce#4128: you can get a shitty score simply because your cpu turbos up slightly slower
TheFifthAce#4128: @Gamefreak924 asking a bit much there, its the athlon xp 3200+ thats worth dough
TheFifthAce#4128: the athlon 64 3200+ is just a weak athlon
Gamefreak924#5901: I mean finding a price comparison was difficult for me. I put it a bit less than what I can find it for. I'm always willing to hear a negotiation
TheFifthAce#4128: @Gamefreak924 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/570577093394432000/Capture_2019-04-24-07-49-29.png
TheFifthAce#4128: 10$ off ebay lol
TheFifthAce#4128: like I said
TheFifthAce#4128: 64 is weak athlon
TheFifthAce#4128: xp is valuable |
Gamefreak924#5901: 3200 != 3400
TheFifthAce#4128: @Gamefreak924 you had 3200+ listed
TheFifthAce#4128: dont try to pull one on me
TheFifthAce#4128: I see that :edited:
Gamefreak924#5901: Look again
TheFifthAce#4128: @Gamefreak924 is it the mobile one or the desktop one
Gamefreak924#5901: I literally had 3400 up the entire time
TheFifthAce#4128: Not that it matters, 754 accepted both
Gamefreak924#5901: Desktop
Gamefreak924#5901: The edit was me debating whether I should put the actual name in bold to let people see better what I'm offering. And I decided against it after changing it
Gamefreak924#5901: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/570578344517697536/image0.jpg
TheFifthAce#4128: @Gamefreak924 @TheFifthAce https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/570578396204236800/Capture_2019-04-24-07-53-57.png
DarknessFalls229#2286: Did you just ping yourself?
Gamefreak924#5901: The key that I look at is the actual part number (ADA)
TheFifthAce#4128: If you need to look up prices, go to ebay and look at "sold" times |
TheFifthAce#4128: @DarknessFalls229 yes @TheFifthAce
DarknessFalls229#2286: But why
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/570579074515206154/Capture_2019-04-24-07-56-44.png
TheFifthAce#4128: heres some with ada part number, as if it really matters
TheFifthAce#4128: @Gamefreak924
TheFifthAce#4128: none of the athlon 64s are all that valuable lol, except the super high end ones
Gamefreak924#5901: Right. And those don't match. Some people just really want that specific CPU :/ I dunno what to tell you
Gamefreak924#5901: I've seen people buy a lot less for a lot more
TheFifthAce#4128: those people are not going to be here lol
TheFifthAce#4128: sell it on ebay if you want rich collectors to pay for it
TheFifthAce#4128: The retro enthusiasts here aren't going to pay extra for a slightly different part number
Gamefreak924#5901: I don't get what the problem is so much..
DarknessFalls229#2286: the problem is that folks here aint gonna pay 60 bucks for it
TheFifthAce#4128: you're asking 60$ for a cpu they can get for 8$ with a different serial number that performs identically lmao
TheFifthAce#4128: how dont you see the problem @Gamefreak924 |
GoldenSky#4649: ☠
Gamefreak924#5901: You could say the same thing in terms of video games on different systems. But there are people who collect or want to rebuild old systems with the exact part
GoldenSky#4649: You really can't
GoldenSky#4649: It's the exact same CPU for the same socket
GoldenSky#4649: You're using really flawed logic to try to justify it
Gamefreak924#5901: Not really
GoldenSky#4649: If they want to rebuild old systems with "that exact part" they'll go for the cheaper option
Gamefreak924#5901: I work at a place that basically makes money from this flawed logic lol
DarknessFalls229#2286: so youre saying that i could sell a waterblocked 690 for 600$ just because someone looks for that exact part?
GoldenSky#4649: Let me just sell my PS4 controller for €90 because it's white and they might want that exact one
Gamefreak924#5901: I mean I collect video games. I'm not gonna go buy a reproduction cart of a game just because it's $40 cheaper
GoldenSky#4649: Even though it sells for €50-60
Gamefreak924#5901: People are different
GoldenSky#4649: Hell, €40 even
GoldenSky#4649: Right, but that CPU isn't a reproduction, so what's your point? |
Gamefreak924#5901: >__>'
GoldenSky#4649: You're selling the exact same thing for a huge mark up
Gamefreak924#5901: You people care way too much about this. Then just go buy the CPU on ebay
TheFifthAce#4128: @Gamefreak924 good plan
TheFifthAce#4128: because trying to sell a specific serial number of a cpu for 7 times the value in a budget server really isn't the smartest idea lmao
TheFifthAce#4128: it's worth like 8$
TheFifthAce#4128: shitty athlon is shitty athlon, yours isn't in good shape, and the different serial number doesn't change the chip in any way
GoldenSky#4649: Every serial number is unique anyway, are they not?
TheFifthAce#4128: yes lol
JustinXenyx#8854: @Gamefreak924 It doesnt quite work that way with processors. And your CPU isn't even unique, you literally just posted the OEM partnumber
GoldenSky#4649: Yeah, so Gamefreak, you have 0 justification for this
TheFifthAce#4128: it's literally just not worth 60$
TheFifthAce#4128: it's worth 8$ at most, and probably less because its in shitty condition
JustinXenyx#8854: Its not even worth $8
TheFifthAce#4128: ^ |
TheFifthAce#4128: it's a shitty athlon 64
TheFifthAce#4128: got an athlon 64 fx? those are worth money
TheFifthAce#4128: got an athlon xp 3200? money
TheFifthAce#4128: any regular athlon 64? basically trash
TheFifthAce#4128: especially on 754, a mostly unsupported socket whose main selling point is that it works with the mobile variants of the chips
JustinXenyx#8854: 754 was the budget chipset, why the fuck would a almost 2 decade old cpu cost 60 bucks from a budget platform?
TheFifthAce#4128: the only valuable athlons are athlon xp 3200+, and athlon 64 fx
TheFifthAce#4128: anything else is a tableweight
JustinXenyx#8854: Also, it doesn't have dual channel, it has a super crippled HT link and its clocked like shit
JustinXenyx#8854: And you want 60 Bucks? I could swear i could get much better athlons for 1/10th of the price
TheFifthAce#4128: you can get an athlon 64 x2 6000+ for 8$ lol
Gamefreak924#5901: You people have your opinions, and I have mine. But I'll go make your hearts all warm.
JustinXenyx#8854: @Gamefreak924 Its not opinions, its straight up facts
Gamefreak924#5901: >when a perspective is a fact
Gamefreak924#5901: Yeah okie |
TheFifthAce#4128: the serial number means literally nothing game lmao, it changes from cpu to cpu
JustinXenyx#8854: So, me telling your processor is worth nothing is a fucking perspective? Ok Sherlock
Gamefreak924#5901: It's a part number. Not a serial number. Serial numbers are unique
Gamefreak924#5901: Whatever. I took down the message. Will you guys stop badgering me now?
RandomTacos#3695: If the sliders are maxed in afterburner, can you push the card further by punching in higher numbers
MythologicalZ#3752: Very cool
RandomTacos#3695: Thank, moth
JegKompletson#3381: How's this?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JQddLJ
(I already have the Memory and the Storage stuff, so no need for that.)
JegKompletson#3381: I'm an utter noob at PC building, so go on, laugh.
MythologicalZ#3752: That RAM is shite for Ryzen
MythologicalZ#3752: Board is ok but I personally wouldn't run it with a 2700x
MythologicalZ#3752: 1660 is eh,I'd look for used a 580 8GB
MythologicalZ#3752: SSD is great to have too and fairly cheap |
JegKompletson#3381: What RAM would you recommend?
JegKompletson#3381: And any trusted websites for used PC parts would be helpful.
RandomTacos#3695: 3200mhz is about the sweet spot
RandomTacos#3695: If you're us I'd suggest offerup
MythologicalZ#3752: 2666 minimum for Ryzen tbh
MythologicalZ#3752: And dual channel too
MythologicalZ#3752: So no 16GB sticks or anything like that
mi3night#2562: ^case?
RandomTacos#3695: Why not 16gb sticks @MythologicalZ?
RandomTacos#3695: That's what I'm running
MythologicalZ#3752: I meant in single channel
RandomTacos#3695: Oh right
MythologicalZ#3752: Some people buy a 3466 16GB or something since that'll be enough RAM and forget about dual
RandomTacos#3695: Smh
RandomTacos#3695: I guess it makes sense |
RandomTacos#3695: They hear, "just get atleast 16gb"
MythologicalZ#3752: Yeah
JegKompletson#3381: oh whoops, no dox
JegKompletson#3381: offerup's not working
JegKompletson#3381: for me
MythologicalZ#3752: It's US only
JegKompletson#3381: Aw shit
MythologicalZ#3752: What region you in?
JegKompletson#3381: Asia
JustinXenyx#8854: As people already mentioned, the RAM is shit and you should probably get a SSD too @JegKompletson
mi3night#2562: @JegKompletson seek taobao
mi3night#2562: If ur close to China
mi3night#2562: Or Ali express
JegKompletson#3381: But taobao is Chinese
mi3night#2562: Ur close to China? |
JegKompletson#3381: Yeah, kinda
JegKompletson#3381: But me no read Chinese https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/570642360988467200/unknown.png
mi3night#2562: Oh google translate
MythologicalZ#3752: Chrome
GoldenSky#4649: Chrome has a built-in translator
MythologicalZ#3752: Ez translate
GoldenSky#4649: Right click the webpage and click Translate
mi3night#2562: U don’t have to worry about shipping/import since ur closer than US
JustinXenyx#8854: Also, why go for a 1660? Its a pretty meh card, you should go for atleast a 1660Ti @JegKompletson
JustinXenyx#8854: the 1660 is barely better than the 1060
JegKompletson#3381: I just surfed some websites and they said its good *and* cheap
And I'm like "aok fine sure why not"
JustinXenyx#8854: Also, just mentioning this on the side, the 1650 doesn't even match the RX570 for 30 bucks more. Unless they make good low profile cards with them i will refuse to recommend these cards at their current retail prices
MythologicalZ#3752: Indeed
JegKompletson#3381: Used stuff seems too risky to buy tbh |
JustinXenyx#8854: You'd think that, but you just need to buy from the proper and trusted sources
JustinXenyx#8854: Most of us here have parts in their rigs that are used. Hell, a lot of us just have entire rigs with just used parts
MythologicalZ#3752: My entire rig ATM is used
MythologicalZ#3752: Works just fine
MythologicalZ#3752: Like Justin said,just get a good source for your parts
DarknessFalls229#2286: My main system is fully built with used hardware
GoldenSky#4649: Same
DarknessFalls229#2286: The CPUZ bench isnt letting my cpu turbo. Hm weird
JegKompletson#3381: 2666 is enough for Ryzen, or should I go higher?
JustinXenyx#8854: Always go higher than 2666
JegKompletson#3381: 3200 then?
JustinXenyx#8854: 2666Mhz is bare minimum, i'd go atleast 3000Mhz for optimal performance
JegKompletson#3381: or 3000 is okay?
JegKompletson#3381: Sure.
RandomTacos#3695: Again, 3200 is about the sweet spot @JegKompletson |
JegKompletson#3381: Okay.
JegKompletson#3381: As for the SSDs you recommended, how does the WD Black SN750 NVMe SSD compare amongst the others?
JegKompletson#3381: How about now?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bcMm9J
JustinXenyx#8854: Looks capable, but i'd rather get the 1660 over the 580 at that price
JegKompletson#3381: 1660Ti, you mean? Or the og one?
JustinXenyx#8854: the 1660 is marginally more expensive than the 580 in that list, but if you can afford it definitely go for the 1660Ti
JustinXenyx#8854: Also, that WD SSD is pretty capable, it performs similar to Samsungs PCIe X4 SSD's
JegKompletson#3381: Lemme see then
JegKompletson#3381: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/JegKompletson/saved/ZMVYHx
Good, no?
JustinXenyx#8854: That looks pretty decent
TheFifthAce#4128: Why buy a cooler
TheFifthAce#4128: 2700x comes with wraith prism
TheFifthAce#4128: @JegKompletson |
Alcyone#2233: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sbRCTB
no cooler, faster ram, cheaper 512gb x4 nvme, best 1660ti
Bwenfwake#6869: Hey guys, I found a 970 for cheap lol https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GTX790-PCi-EGraphics-card/293057522202?hash=item443b96ea1a:g:FJUAAOSwkqZcuY4l&frcectupt=true
Bwenfwake#6869: £90 is pretty decent
JustinXenyx#8854: @Alcyone where is the rest of the system lol
JustinXenyx#8854: @TheFifthAce I can see why you would do that, to optimize temps and to make the system a lot quieter
Alcyone#2233: thats all the guy had on the list, I assume he has the rest
TheFifthAce#4128: I guess
TheFifthAce#4128: But spending 90 extra for it?
TheFifthAce#4128: srry for tag alcyone
JustinXenyx#8854: Also, my assumption is that the guy is just using parts relative to the stuff he can afford in his country
JustinXenyx#8854: Which is why i never made a partslist myself, as the dude is in a Asian country and we dunno which exact one, so prices can vary wildly
TheFifthAce#4128: tru
TheFifthAce#4128: @Bwenfwake 970 bad tho
TheFifthAce#4128: just get rx 480 |
JustinXenyx#8854: shit price for a card that performance @Bwenfwake
TheFifthAce#4128: ^^
TheFifthAce#4128: Rx 470 or 480
TheFifthAce#4128: much better choice
JustinXenyx#8854: You can grab 470's and 470D's for like 70 quid now
Bwenfwake#6869: Lol nah, twas a joke. Look at the ad carefully 😂
Bwenfwake#6869: I mean come on gtx 790
JustinXenyx#8854: @Bwenfwake I looked at the Ad, it IS a 970
JustinXenyx#8854: just a slight typo in the title
Bwenfwake#6869: Yeah ik, just surprised me haha. What is a good deal tho is a Titan black for £85
Bwenfwake#6869: @JustinXenyx
JustinXenyx#8854: Not really
JustinXenyx#8854: Its just a skimped 780Ti, which is even worse than a GTX970 or a RX570
MythologicalZ#3752: You have throw Titan branding into the mix though
JustinXenyx#8854: Why should i care about the branding if it performs the same anyway? Sure the Titan brand is associated with expensive GPU's, but thats because the ass-hats at Nvidia made it that way |
MythologicalZ#3752: 🗿
MythologicalZ#3752: That's not the point,market is influenced by the branding so it needs to be taken into account
thatubuntuguy#5914: what marketing
thatubuntuguy#5914: har har har
MythologicalZ#3752: What
JustinXenyx#8854: Market, not marketing @thatubuntuguy
thatubuntuguy#5914: oh lmao cant read
JustinXenyx#8854: I can kinda agree with that. Sure, from a pure performance standpoint a Titan Black for 85 Quid is ass. But with the Titan brandings "price-rise" added to the mix it may not be that bad of a price
JegKompletson#3381: ok, am back.
I took @Alcyone's RAM and SSD. And I'm from India.
https://in.pcpartpicker.com/list/XHLfw6
MythologicalZ#3752: Yeah as a usage card it's shite
DarknessFalls229#2286: you took his ram and SSD? thief!
MythologicalZ#3752: Since Polaris and all
TheFifthAce#4128: @JegKompletson so why spend extra on cooler btw |
JegKompletson#3381: uh
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah, doesnt the CPU come with a half-decent cooler?
TheFifthAce#4128: 2700x comes with wraith prism
TheFifthAce#4128: its an awesome cooler
MythologicalZ#3752: If you're planning on pushing OCs that board won't be the best choice
JegKompletson#3381: But, I've been recommended the Noctua one, so I just thought I should include it. This is my first build, remember. I know near nothing about these things
MythologicalZ#3752: It's a decent piece of kit but it's not gonna hold up with a 4.3Ghz 2700x or something
TheFifthAce#4128: @JegKompletson just drop the cooler and spend the money on a better mobo
JegKompletson#3381: ok
MythologicalZ#3752: Or just drop the cooler and keep the board
DarknessFalls229#2286: then later, if you want to OC, get a better cooler
TheFifthAce#4128: ye
TheFifthAce#4128: that board is fine
DarknessFalls229#2286: but for a first build, stock ryzen heatsink is fiiiiine
TheFifthAce#4128: but like why x470 gaming plus |
TheFifthAce#4128: just get a b450
TheFifthAce#4128: tomahawk
DarknessFalls229#2286: _haek_
TheFifthAce#4128: ill eat ur ass
JustinXenyx#8854: because the X470 gaming plus is better than most B450's from MSI you donk
TheFifthAce#4128: tomahawk tho
JustinXenyx#8854: the tomahawk is overpriced
TheFifthAce#4128: I thought x470 gaming plus was a b450 with better vrm and a different chipset
TheFifthAce#4128: steel legend time
JegKompletson#3381: Whoa the tomahawk is like 2K cheaper than the X470 Gaming Plus for me
Bwenfwake#6869: btw I bought the Titan Black anyway lol
MythologicalZ#3752: Are you planning on OCing? @JegKompletson
JegKompletson#3381: Not really.
MythologicalZ#3752: Eh,I'd say get a Tomahawk and a 2700 non x then
MythologicalZ#3752: Save the cash and get more storage or a better PSU or something |
TheFifthAce#4128: @MythologicalZ 2700 means he'd have to buy a cooler
TheFifthAce#4128: Wraith spire isnt as good
TheFifthAce#4128: Barely keeps my oced 2600 cool
MythologicalZ#3752: Mhm
MythologicalZ#3752: He'd probably save enough to be able to get a good cooler
TheFifthAce#4128: dark rock pro 4 time
JegKompletson#3381: Well I've saved like 12K and the Noctua cooler could easily fit in. What do you guys think?
JegKompletson#3381: And what is "The motherboard M.2 slot #1 shares bandwidth with SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports. When the M.2 slot is populated, two SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports are disabled." supposed to mean.
MythologicalZ#3752: Two Sata ports are out if you run M.2
TheFifthAce#4128: it means 2 sata ports are disabled when the nvme is in
TheFifthAce#4128: but u have 6 ports
TheFifthAce#4128: so its fine
JegKompletson#3381: okay then.
JegKompletson#3381: And about the cooler?
TheFifthAce#4128: @JegKompletson how much is a dark rock pro 4 |
TheFifthAce#4128: :Kappa:
JustinXenyx#8854: If you really wanna go for that Noctua silence, go for it. But a Dark Rock 4 is probably the better option for you price-wise
TheFifthAce#4128: or more realistically, a deepcool neptwin
JustinXenyx#8854: @TheFifthAce DRP4 is kinda overkill tbh
TheFifthAce#4128: yes
JustinXenyx#8854: So is the Noctua
TheFifthAce#4128: yes
TheFifthAce#4128: deepcool neptwin
TheFifthAce#4128: or scythe fuma
JustinXenyx#8854: the neptwin looks like they took 2 hyper 212 evos and glued them together
TheFifthAce#4128: or a gammaxx I gues
TheFifthAce#4128: neptwin still keeps shit cool
JegKompletson#3381: Dark rock pro 4 is 6K on newegg, 14K on amazon
JustinXenyx#8854: 6K for a Pro4 is pretty neat, when the Noctua costs 12k
JustinXenyx#8854: the Pro4 isnt that far off from the Noctua |
JegKompletson#3381: Okay then the Pro 4 it is
TheFifthAce#4128: nice
JegKompletson#3381: Final thing -
https://in.pcpartpicker.com/list/CrsjTB
JegKompletson#3381: Thanks guys, will ask any further doubts
JegKompletson#3381: G'night
TheFifthAce#4128: @JegKompletson what case
JegKompletson#3381: uh
JustinXenyx#8854: LMAO
JegKompletson#3381: Corsair Carbide SPEC-Delta
TheFifthAce#4128: h500 time
TheFifthAce#4128: o ok
JegKompletson#3381: I think that's whjat it is
TheFifthAce#4128: is h500 cheaper
TheFifthAce#4128: its easier to build in |
TheFifthAce#4128: i m o
JegKompletson#3381: It is cheaper yes.
JegKompletson#3381: Newegg is suddenly extremely cheap, 5K for the h500
JegKompletson#3381: 11K on amazon.in
TheFifthAce#4128: ya yeet
TheFifthAce#4128: I like the h500 but you do u, its what you'll be looking at
JegKompletson#3381: Its nice to look at, will decide later
mi3night#2562: @JegKompletson no one case is perfect it’s all up to preference actually
GoldenSky#4649: Gonna try to install Windows 7 with the Windows 8 setup
GoldenSky#4649: Hopefully it'll work
GoldenSky#4649: Should be good to go if it detects the eMMC drive
mi3night#2562: eMMC
GoldenSky#4649: Yeah, it's one of those 2017 budget laptops
GoldenSky#4649: Update: it worked and it's installing Windows 7
GoldenSky#4649: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/570691647202000986/JPEG_20190424_202437.jpg |
TheFifthAce#4128: How do I view GB partitions in file manager?
TheFifthAce#4128: I have 2 macbook hdds that I can view in partition manager but cant see in file manager
TheFifthAce#4128: and I need to get the files off them
TheFifthAce#4128: found a way
Jam#0384: You can in uh Storage Manage or whatever you call it
DarknessFalls229#2286: @TheFifthAce wait, what about using "open" and "explore"? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/570714845578788874/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: those didnt pop up
TheFifthAce#4128: but I got something else to work
TheFifthAce#4128: "HFSExplorer"
DarknessFalls229#2286: any idea what cause the drives to not show up in file explorer?
TheFifthAce#4128: uh they're macbook drives
TheFifthAce#4128: xd
DarknessFalls229#2286: of course
DarknessFalls229#2286: 🍎
TheFifthAce#4128: @DarknessFalls229 bristol ridge is just another fx style architecture isnt it |
DarknessFalls229#2286: hm? dunno
DarknessFalls229#2286: i dont know every achitecture's name
DarknessFalls229#2286: "These parts were the highest performing iteration of AMD’s Bulldozer design"
DarknessFalls229#2286: i guess thats a yes
DarknessFalls229#2286: it is indeed fx
DarknessFalls229#2286: @TheFifthAce why ask?
TheFifthAce#4128: came up in conversation
DarknessFalls229#2286: oh alright, however strange to ask me about architectures
TheFifthAce#4128: well you were just talking
DarknessFalls229#2286: that is true
thatubuntuguy#5914: HEHEEEEEE RESURRECTING FX IN 2019
DarknessFalls229#2286: 2016*
thatubuntuguy#5914: my bad
DarknessFalls229#2286: still not great though, as they knew FX had flopped
DarknessFalls229#2286: unless Excavator v2 is actually somewhat good |
TheFifthAce#4128: So is there a way to bios flash the motherboard on my Inspiron 530S to be able to support quad core 775s
TheFifthAce#4128: g33m02
mi3night#2562: Imagine 4 1151 cpu motherboard
Jam#0384: So basically imagine an oven
Jam#0384: disguised as a PC
SuSSudio#2688: :HEYY:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-roadmap-10nm-14nm-gpu-cpu,39163.html
Evvy#0001: lake
Lady Mipha#0611: how big are these lakes gonna get
thatubuntuguy#5914: 14nm again hehee
Deleted User#0000: **serious problem about getting new amd rig**
lately im using the secondary computer which has those specs:
Asrock p67 pro b3
Samsung DDR3-12800 4gb*2 (8gb) |
Intel Core i5-3570 @4.00
(I dont wrote gpu and other specs coz im not gonna sell it)
exactly I can sell this rig around 100$ on here,
also considering to get the new amd rig on future with R3 1200 system.
should i need to sell this old rig to get a fresh amd rig or not?
(already have the processor, selling the old rig makes me get a new mobo and some ddr4 stick)
Rio#1000: i dont know why you bought a 1200 as an upgrade from a 3570, because it barely is
Rio#1000: but sure
TheFifthAce#4128: go for an r5 1400 system instead if you can return the 1200
Robin#5845: What is the max overclocks you guys have seen for the ryzen 1700x?
Robin#5845: I could only get mine to 3.85 at 1.38 vlts
DarknessFalls229#2286: a friend of mine got it around that high too
Robin#5845: I really dont know how people can get theirs to 4ghz its crazy, does the chipset help? |
Robin#5845: Im using b350
DarknessFalls229#2286: well, my friend got some high end x370 so i dunno, but hes also using the stock cooler
DarknessFalls229#2286: are you running an aftermarket cooler?
Robin#5845: Yeah Im using a gammax 400
Robin#5845: with two fans on it
Robin#5845: but i want to get a ncotua dhu-15
DarknessFalls229#2286: hmm guessing then that your chip is running too hot or are you on chipset limitations?
Robin#5845: I really don't think so the max temp i get is 56c
Robin#5845: i get an idle temp of 29
DarknessFalls229#2286: i think you are on chipset limits then, it wont clock higher unless you put in an unreasonable amount of voltage
Robin#5845: would you recommend x499?
DarknessFalls229#2286: isnt that the TR4 platform? not AM4?
MythologicalZ#3752: X499 isn't a thing
DarknessFalls229#2286: also, i mean your CPU cant go any higher
Robin#5845: I thought it was the chipset for the latest AM4 ryzen cpus |
DarknessFalls229#2286: the mobo might but will run hot when a lot of voltage is used
DarknessFalls229#2286: you mean x470
Robin#5845: yeah x470
DarknessFalls229#2286: i think you just need a better binned chip
MythologicalZ#3752: What board do you currently have?
DarknessFalls229#2286: some b350
MythologicalZ#3752: Not particularly helpful
Robin#5845: i have the asrock pro 4 microatx
MythologicalZ#3752: Could be a shit Gigabyte or something
MythologicalZ#3752: Aj
MythologicalZ#3752: Pro4
MythologicalZ#3752: Ehhhh
MythologicalZ#3752: If you plan to stick to Ryzen and get Zen 3 I'd get a X370 in any case
Robin#5845: its got some okay heatsinks on the vrms I want to mount a fan on top of the case
Robin#5845: yeah Im planning on upgrading to ryzen 3 as soon as it comes out |
DarknessFalls229#2286: psst myth, its zen 2 and ryzen 3
MythologicalZ#3752: Then X370 will be helpful
MythologicalZ#3752: Same thing essentially
DarknessFalls229#2286: you said "Zen 3"
MythologicalZ#3752: Yeah yeah
MythologicalZ#3752: Either way a decent X370 will help stand the test of time
MythologicalZ#3752: Just don't get a Titanium
DarknessFalls229#2286: or do you reckon he should get x470 or even the future x570 chipsets?
Robin#5845: I'm planning on going all out on a mobo for my next build so i dont have any oc limitations and I really want to get nicely cooled vrms
MythologicalZ#3752: Gaming 7 or Pro Carbon then
Robin#5845: what brand are they?
MythologicalZ#3752: CH7 is an LN2 board
MythologicalZ#3752: Gigabyte/Aorus and MSI
Robin#5845: oh alright
taptapking#6216: I found an radeon 9800 deal for just $5 |
taptapking#6216: should I cop it?
Rio#1000: @MythologicalZ whats wrong with the titanium?
Rio#1000: if its the it not running zen2 thing that's a load of shit
Rio#1000: "It has come to our attention that MSI Customer Support has regrettably misinformed an MSI customer with regards to potential support for next-gen AMD CPUs on the MSI X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM motherboard. Through this statement we want clarify the current situation.
At this point, we are still performing extensive testing on our existing lineup of 300- and 400-series AM4 motherboards to verify potential compatibility for the next-gen AMD Ryzen CPUs. To be clear: Our intention is to offer maximum compatibility for as many MSI products as possible. Towards the launch of the next-gen AMD CPUs, we will release a compatibility list of MSI AM4 motherboards."
mi3night#2562: Should I get oppo find x
JustinXenyx#8854: I wouldn't
JustinXenyx#8854: The sliding-mechanism isn't really tested in its durability, it only has a 1080p display (and come on, at that price 1440p is a must) and it has no headphone jack
JustinXenyx#8854: But if that doesn't bother you, go for it @mi3night
mi3night#2562: What about huawei p30
JustinXenyx#8854: the regular one?
mi3night#2562: Or the pro
mi3night#2562: Might look for either one
mi3night#2562: All the reviews I see is so biased |
JustinXenyx#8854: They're both decent phones, but the notch and the 1080p only display in that price category are again unacceptable at this price in my eyes
JustinXenyx#8854: Some don't have a problem with the 1080p display and sure, its plenty sharp, but the price should allow for a better display than just 1080p
JustinXenyx#8854: Sony even puts fucking 4K displays on their Premium phones
TheFifthAce#4128: the heck is silents low end config thing
TheFifthAce#4128: literally just a config file for turning down settings with no explanation of how to use it?
TheFifthAce#4128: @Prec1sioN can you remove that
TheFifthAce#4128: not only do you not have testing, you don't have any explanation for how it works
mi3night#2562: @JustinXenyx anything else about p30
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah, EMUI can be somewhat of a pisscan when it comes do android
JustinXenyx#8854: I don't like it at all
JustinXenyx#8854: But except that they're really great phones
mi3night#2562: Compared to s10 which is similar price
JustinXenyx#8854: S10 has the better feature set overall
mi3night#2562: Such as
GoldenSky#4649: Try for a OnePlus 6/6T |
GoldenSky#4649: *One of* the best Android phones out there
JustinXenyx#8854: features the P30 doesnt have: DeX, Wireless + reserve wireless charging, 1440p display, IP68 waterproofing, can record 4k 60fps video
JustinXenyx#8854: @GoldenSky I mean, its pretty decent, but again only a 1080p display. Like, the phone is easily 550-ish euros, pounds or USD and i could easily grab a phone for probably even less than that with a 1440p screen and similar features
GoldenSky#4649: 1080p display = less GPU stress = more battery life
GoldenSky#4649: 1440p is useless on something as small as a phone.
TheFifthAce#4128: I wish I could downscale my phone
TheFifthAce#4128: I do appreciate how high quality screenshots are though
GoldenSky#4649: It's totally unnecessary to have a 1440p display
JustinXenyx#8854: I wasn't saying the 1080p display is bad, just that at this kinda price you should expect 1440p as far as i see it @GoldenSky
MythologicalZ#3752: @Rio x370 titanium vrms aren't great, especially compared to the x99 version,ik the whole MSI thing was resolved
JustinXenyx#8854: @TheFifthAce I think you can do that with custom roms on the LG G6
Rio#1000: still retardo overkill for anything ryzen though lets be honest @MythologicalZ
MythologicalZ#3752: Eh fair
TheFifthAce#4128: its still under warranty
TheFifthAce#4128: ain't finna fuck with roms |
JustinXenyx#8854: I still don't get why smartphone manufacturers are so pissy about custom roms
Rio#1000: what phone fifth?
JustinXenyx#8854: LG G6 @Rio
Rio#1000: tbh they really arent currently
Rio#1000: Samsung even have a bootloader unlock in settings
Rio#1000: it voids warranty because companies don't want to have to fix peoples rom fuckups
JustinXenyx#8854: They should have a seperate thing for that like "If your attempt at running software from untrusted sources hasn't been successful you don't apply for the warranty anmore"
JustinXenyx#8854: Not like "IF YOU HAVE CUSTOM ROM, YOUR DEAD TO US"
DarknessFalls229#2286: Can't y'all do this? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/571018237366763540/Screenshot_20190425-190205.png
TheFifthAce#4128: idk
JustinXenyx#8854: @DarknessFalls229 LG doesn't have that in their current Software
DarknessFalls229#2286: hm interesting
DarknessFalls229#2286: i would've assumed they would have it by now, as ive got an oold flagship
JustinXenyx#8854: The G7 and G8 have that by now, i'm waiting for the Android 9 update and hope they implement the res-change feature into the G6 too
JustinXenyx#8854: But i just wanna mention, the G6 is a hella nice phone for its price, i got it for christmas and it only cost 230-ish euros, probably is pretty decently priced on the used market too |
TheFifthAce#4128: I got it like 2 years ago
DarknessFalls229#2286: all i need is to repair my phone
DarknessFalls229#2286: i need a new lens, new screen protector and a new case
DarknessFalls229#2286: how i broke the lens is still somewhat of a mystery to me
JustinXenyx#8854: I got a box of iPhones from my brother today, i'm gonna find everything thats usable and maybe its enough parts to build a working one lol
DarknessFalls229#2286: lol nice
DarknessFalls229#2286: oh btw, for how much do you reckon i can sell this budged gaming system for:
FM2 board, 4GB of ram, A8-5600k, GTX750, 320GB WD Black, 350 watt be quiet 80+ PSU
JustinXenyx#8854: i'd say like 100-ish euros
DarknessFalls229#2286: cool
DarknessFalls229#2286: got it for 30 so should be a nice flip
JustinXenyx#8854: nice
DarknessFalls229#2286: and that while i took the 530w PSU, 8GB and some nice fans out and 320GB HDD, 350w PSU and 4gb in
TheFifthAce#4128: why are some a8s fm2 and some am4
TheFifthAce#4128: :tech_jesus: |
DarknessFalls229#2286: refresh
TheFifthAce#4128: illegal
TheFifthAce#4128: 🍇
JustinXenyx#8854: no refresh, they're all bulldozer
TheFifthAce#4128: that was meant to be a grr
DarknessFalls229#2286: yOuRe IllEGal
TheFifthAce#4128: BristOl RiDge so ItS noT buLldoEr ANymORE hAH YeS
DarknessFalls229#2286: omg that illegal is unreadable
TheFifthAce#4128: :killem:
JustinXenyx#8854: AMD just decided that they should use the rest of Bulldozer stock for their APU's on AM4, so that they can still flip a decent buck on those
DarknessFalls229#2286: as long as the price is low, it should be alright
JustinXenyx#8854: In my eyes you should chuck in 8GB in dual channel, get the 750 out and maybe sell it for 60-70€ @DarknessFalls229
TheFifthAce#4128: justin
TheFifthAce#4128: I got 3x4gb 2400mhz for 25$
TheFifthAce#4128: :dAB: |
JustinXenyx#8854: D3 or D4?
TheFifthAce#4128: d4
DarknessFalls229#2286: hmmm i dunno
TheFifthAce#4128: ddr3 doesnt go that high does it
TheFifthAce#4128: it caps at 2133
TheFifthAce#4128: except on oc
JustinXenyx#8854: Nah, i've seen 2400mhz ram stock ddr3
DarknessFalls229#2286: dont really have any use with the LP 750 and the ram that was in there is nice corsair ram
JustinXenyx#8854: LP 750? Dude, those are still like 40-50€ own their own
TheFifthAce#4128: ^
DarknessFalls229#2286: hmmm
DarknessFalls229#2286: so sell it without the 750 then?
JustinXenyx#8854: Yup
DarknessFalls229#2286: and how about the ram? id like to keep the 8gb, but i can increase the 4gb to 6gb
JustinXenyx#8854: I'd sell it with dual channel ram, because maximum performance etc |
DarknessFalls229#2286: so just 4GB is fine?
JustinXenyx#8854: If its dual channel, yes
DarknessFalls229#2286: alright cool
Jeffrey#9213: I just BSOD, anything look bad here? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/571034681194184724/unknown.png
Jeffrey#9213: I think that Serial ATA and Audio Driver look a bit wack
Jeffrey#9213: @Tech Helper
JustinXenyx#8854: The thing that looks wack to me is that in almost every error source your graphics card is mentioned
Jeffrey#9213: I just assumed that was sharing
Jeffrey#9213: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/571036689376739338/unknown.png
Jeffrey#9213: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/571036859359035404/unknown.png
Alcyone#2233: irqs can be shared. you might be able to switch it in bios or device manager properties if you think it is an issue.
Jeffrey#9213: Oh, I really don't know what the issue is
Jeffrey#9213: just thought that looked the most mismatched, if you get what im sayin
Alcyone#2233: check for errors in event viewer?
Jeffrey#9213: lemme check |
Jeffrey#9213: Not really sure where look tbh @Alcyone
Jeffrey#9213: I did have an issue this morning with my computer not waking up from sleep
Jeffrey#9213: So I forced shut down
JustinXenyx#8854: Usually the best way to diagnose issues is to uninstall everything that isn't needed step by step until the issue does not occur anymore
Jeffrey#9213: I haven't updated drivers in a while
Jeffrey#9213: Not sure if this means anything https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/571038374971047957/unknown.png
Alcyone#2233: event-windows logs-system
Jeffrey#9213: what do i do with that
Alcyone#2233: which os w7?
Jeffrey#9213: Yeah Windows 7
Alcyone#2233: win+r, eventvwr.msc
Jeffrey#9213: ok, im on there
Alcyone#2233: look for red triangles in the system log around the time it crashed
Jeffrey#9213: All I got is this
Jeffrey#9213: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/571040701635231754/unknown.png |
Jeffrey#9213: I also did have this issue this morning http://informertech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Windows-resume-loader.jpg
Jeffrey#9213: I did the delete restoration one
Jeffrey#9213: since I wasn't doing anything important at the time @Alcyone
Jam#0384: Cant get WinXP to install
Jam#0384: :(
Lady Mipha#0611: :(
Lady Mipha#0611: why not @Jam
Exomilav#5434: Why does SOC voltage matter and why should i manual voltage not auto?
Alcyone#2233: if you are overclocking ram or running a high speed xmp kit it may benefit to set soc manually to 1.1v-1.15v
Alcyone#2233: otherwise it is fine on auto.
Jam#0384: it gets stuck at Setup is starting windows on all drives
Jam#0384: IDE, Sata, ones that literally ran WinXP
Jam#0384: etc
Jam#0384: and i do really need to test this 9700 pro
Lady Mipha#0611: have you tried different ports |
Jam#0384: Ports?
Lady Mipha#0611: ide sata
Jam#0384: mhm
Jam#0384: the board is fine
Jam#0384: ive used it multiple times
Lady Mipha#0611: maybe the install might not have the drivers
Jam#0384: it doesnt have sata drivers but it does the same thing on IDE
Jam#0384: so
Jam#0384: I even tried upgrading a Win98SE install
Jam#0384: and a different WinXP disc
Lady Mipha#0611: hmm
Jam#0384: same thing each time
Jam#0384: and a different DVD-R
Jam#0384: RW*
Lady Mipha#0611: that board does not like xp at the moment |
Jam#0384: it ran XP originally
Lady Mipha#0611: oof
Jam#0384: its a S478 boardd
Jam#0384: nothing too fancy but the 9700 pro on it is in almost pristine condition
Jam#0384: so thats fancy
Lady Mipha#0611: might be that it is trying to do something but fails
Jam#0384: im going to test it on Win98SE
Jam#0384: For now
Jam#0384: just less games tbh
Lady Mipha#0611: like handing stuff off to other stuff
Lady Mipha#0611: also what is the board model @Jam
Jam#0384: ASUS P4S800D-X
Jam#0384: Nothing fancy
Lady Mipha#0611: thanks
Jam#0384: I have a fancy 939 board but no cpu for it |
Jam#0384: lmao
Jam#0384: its never been used tho
Lady Mipha#0611: lmao
Jam#0384: the p4 is 3ghz ht though
Jam#0384: so on the higher end
Lady Mipha#0611: I have a fancy p4 mother board but less fancy cpu
Jam#0384: i have two of these 3ghz chips
Jam#0384: but this board is pretty basic
Lady Mipha#0611: mine is a 2.8ghz non ht
Jam#0384: oh oof
Lady Mipha#0611: p4
Jam#0384: i have a 2GHz first gen p4 and a 2.4Ghz northwood with HT as well
Jam#0384: and a 1.8Ghz P4 first gen
Jam#0384: for not 478
Lady Mipha#0611: I also have a 1.8ghz Celeron |
Jam#0384: ew
Lady Mipha#0611: yeah
Jam#0384: shameful
Jam#0384: not really tho
Jam#0384: celerons are fun to toy with, but not fun to really use
Lady Mipha#0611: but it is the only one that works atm
Lady Mipha#0611: need a new psu for the p4
Jam#0384: i think my Win98SE is corrupted now yaya
Jam#0384: welp
Lady Mipha#0611: f
Jam#0384: Windows hates me
Lady Mipha#0611: it really does
Jam#0384: oh well
Jam#0384: time for win98se reinstall
Jam#0384: ;-; |
Jam#0384: x4
Lady Mipha#0611: ;-;
Jam#0384: im gonna try some maxtor drives which might have Windows XP on them already
Jam#0384: even though they sound like theyre gonna fail
Jam#0384: ~~or rather already failed~~
Lady Mipha#0611: maybe you need to slipstream the sis drivers into the Windows xp install
Lady Mipha#0611: f
Jam#0384: I dont feel like it tbh
Jam#0384: ugh now i have 0 good windows installs to work with
Lady Mipha#0611: because windows xp never came with sat a drivers originally
Jam#0384: for old stuff
Jam#0384: im using IDE tho
Lady Mipha#0611: maybe it might also fix the ide problem but it could also be a bios problem
Jam#0384: this other drive sounds functional omg
Jam#0384: crazy |
Lady Mipha#0611: damm
Jam#0384: ugh issues
Jam#0384: imma try to just install xp anyways
Jam#0384: because why not
Lady Mipha#0611: could be that the bios is in sata mode
Jam#0384: it isnt
Jam#0384: i give up on this :(
Lady Mipha#0611: while you were in the bios did you see the hard drives
Lady Mipha#0611: or cd drives
Jam#0384: yes everything has been detected
Jam#0384: even the sata drives
Lady Mipha#0611: yeah that might mean the board has something to do with it
Jam#0384: At least I can repair my Win98SE by the looks of things
Jam#0384: I'll grab a fresh IDE hard drive cheap online and try WinXP with that
Lady Mipha#0611: and while you are at it don't forget to grab a cpu for that motherboard |
Jam#0384: Soon yes
Jam#0384: Im thinking a 4400+
Jam#0384: High end but not crazy expensive
Jam#0384: the 4800+ and FX are collectors items
Jam#0384: for the most part
Jam#0384: I'd love to have one but at the moment I'm not forking over more than $20~ for a processor of that calibre
TheFifthAce#4128: @Jam if youre usa I can send a 4400+
Jam#0384: oo
TheFifthAce#4128: and a 3200+
TheFifthAce#4128: not xp
TheFifthAce#4128: 64
Jam#0384: yes thats what i need
Jam#0384: awesome i will buy it with your X800 lol
TheFifthAce#4128: 754 not 939
TheFifthAce#4128: btw |
Jam#0384: o
Jam#0384: nvm
TheFifthAce#4128: rip
Jam#0384: i need 939
TheFifthAce#4128: I do have 939 I think
Jam#0384: ill still buy that X800 off you sometime
TheFifthAce#4128: I have a 3500+
Jam#0384: i have an X850XT tho so priority went down a bit
Jam#0384: and nah imma prioritize on that 4400+
TheFifthAce#4128: I have a 4400+ somewhere..
SuSSudio#2688: https://wccftech.com/biostar-x570-racing-pcie-gen-4-motherboard-amd-ryzen-3000-cpus/
thatubuntuguy#5914: Let’s go biostar!
thatubuntuguy#5914: Make me proud
Rio#1000: its biostar amd, dont get your hopes up
GoldenSky#4649: Looks like GameCube emulation is now tolerable on the Switch |
GoldenSky#4649: 23 - 30 FPS in The Wind Waker
thatubuntuguy#5914: wohhh
Lady Mipha#0611: wooohh
Exomilav#5434: woooohhhh
JustinXenyx#8854: @GoldenSky I wonder how good GameCube emulation would be, if Nintendo would take their own shot at it
JustinXenyx#8854: I mean, Dolphin runs fine on the Tegra X1 by itself, now imagine what Nintendo could do
GoldenSky#4649: I'd say perfect
GoldenSky#4649: We already have an official emulator, keep that in mind
GoldenSky#4649: Specifically designed for the X1
GoldenSky#4649: In Japan they had Mario Galaxy on the Shield
thatubuntuguy#5914: This is going to be sick
thatubuntuguy#5914: Thinking of buying a switch just for Ubuntu
TheFifthAce#4128: why
GoldenSky#4649: ^
TheFifthAce#4128: switch has gay specs |
thatubuntuguy#5914: Dual boot
TheFifthAce#4128: literally lower power than ps3
thatubuntuguy#5914: Switch os and Ubuntu
JustinXenyx#8854: I don't think the switch is capable of that
GoldenSky#4649: Ubuntu isn't really worth it on the Switch
thatubuntuguy#5914: It is
JustinXenyx#8854: @TheFifthAce Keep in mind its a hybrid console
TheFifthAce#4128: Well yeah
GoldenSky#4649: It doesn't perform great due to the lack of proper drivers
thatubuntuguy#5914: For a portable console it’s awesome
GoldenSky#4649: For sure
TheFifthAce#4128: definitely, but dual booting is lame
JustinXenyx#8854: If you want portable Ubuntu, get a Windows tablet for cheap and use that @thatubuntuguy
GoldenSky#4649: Especially for the price
GoldenSky#4649: Just not a Cherry Trail tablet |
Jam#0384: JFK Memorial when
MythologicalZ#3752: Wrong channel
JustinXenyx#8854: If a "Switch Pro/Plus" is released, what specs would it have? My first guess would be a new chip with Pascal graphics
JustinXenyx#8854: Like, they've got so much out of a 256 core maxwell gpu, what would Nintendo do with a pascal gpu?
GoldenSky#4649: Also, the Switch is more powerful than a PS3
GoldenSky#4649: I'd like to see the PS3 struggle even attempting to run DOOM 2016 at the exact same quality the Switch has
JustinXenyx#8854: And to think, that even Wolfenstein and DOOM run on a downclocked Tegra X1 on a playable is impressive
JustinXenyx#8854: A Switch with a Pascal GPU could probably even match the PS4 in terms of graphics horse power
TheFifthAce#4128: Yea
TheFifthAce#4128: Imagine a switch with an 8ghz duron
TheFifthAce#4128: :Kappa1:
GoldenSky#4649: Ehhh, not in portable mode, it'd destroy the battery
JustinXenyx#8854: Sure, not in portable, but in docked mode definitely
GoldenSky#4649: Then that would be horny
thatubuntuguy#5914: what |
thatubuntuguy#5914: the fuck
LaeMat#0420: would a Dell Inspiron 5558 (i5-4210U not dedicated) be able to handle Dolphin/PCSX2 emulation?
LaeMat#0420: my Inspiron isn’t running well with it
Jamie.Cullen#8363: What do you mean?
Jamie.Cullen#8363: It should handle emulation OK
thatubuntuguy#5914: Well my 3317u runs galaxy ok
thatubuntuguy#5914: It drops a fair bit in really heavy bits but it’s more than playable
JustinXenyx#8854: My Acer Aspire MM15 (I3 5005U with HD5500) runs Super Mario Sunshine on Dolphin mediocrely
thatubuntuguy#5914: So you’d be fine with your has well
LaeMat#0420: it runs Wii Sports so bad
JustinXenyx#8854: Again, its game dependant on what you wanna run
JustinXenyx#8854: some games are easier emulated than others
LaeMat#0420: like 10-25 FPS
LaeMat#0420: and low speed
thatubuntuguy#5914: What is the igpu I forgot |
LaeMat#0420: intel HD 4400
thatubuntuguy#5914: It should be fine then
thatubuntuguy#5914: By 3317u runs it fine
LaeMat#0420: it runs so facking slow
thatubuntuguy#5914: Wait what resolution are you on
LaeMat#0420: 1920x1080
thatubuntuguy#5914: No no no turn that down
JustinXenyx#8854: whats the render resolution?
LaeMat#0420: oh
thatubuntuguy#5914: It can’t cope with 1080p render red
thatubuntuguy#5914: Oh wait I meant render res oof
TheFifthAce#4128: dont do 1080p render lmaooo
TheFifthAce#4128: keep it native
thatubuntuguy#5914: @LaeMat what res is the game rendering at
TheFifthAce#4128: keep it native to dolphin* |
thatubuntuguy#5914: Leave it at native/480p
thatubuntuguy#5914: Was wii in 480p?
thatubuntuguy#5914: Yeah it was
LaeMat#0420: where do I check?
thatubuntuguy#5914: Dolphin setttings
LaeMat#0420: Wii was in 480i or 480P
LaeMat#0420: where in there?
thatubuntuguy#5914: I forgot it’s been a while
LaeMat#0420: internal resolution?
thatubuntuguy#5914: Look for video options
JustinXenyx#8854: wait a minute, let me check
thatubuntuguy#5914: Sounds right
JustinXenyx#8854: there should be a option named "graphics"
LaeMat#0420: 640x528
JustinXenyx#8854: Ok, thats native res |
JustinXenyx#8854: Anything else active?
LaeMat#0420: wdym?
LaeMat#0420: my AV is on
JustinXenyx#8854: Is Anti-Aliasing turned on or some shit?
JustinXenyx#8854: cause that kills performance
JustinXenyx#8854: Also, what Backend is being used? I find OpenGL to be more efficient than DirectX when it comes to Dolphin
LaeMat#0420: it’s off
LaeMat#0420: OpenGL and both DirectX 11 and 12 are bad
LaeMat#0420: it’s bad
LaeMat#0420: the $55 USD AMD Athlon 200GE runs better
JustinXenyx#8854: that also has a much better iGPU
JustinXenyx#8854: the 200GE's iGPU is comparable to a GTS450
JustinXenyx#8854: the HD4400 is not even half that performance
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Just lower the settings?
LaeMat#0420: I did |
LaeMat#0420: I was thinking of replacing the motherboard with a 5559 i7 motherboard
LaeMat#0420: would that work?
LaeMat#0420: does the motherboard have a Intel HD 520?
JustinXenyx#8854: what i7?
LaeMat#0420: the 6500u or something
JustinXenyx#8854: nah, thats bs
JustinXenyx#8854: it won't fit into your haswell system
JustinXenyx#8854: different mobo n shit i'd assume
LaeMat#0420: what haswell?
LaeMat#0420: they’re the same motherboard
LaeMat#0420: the same case
LaeMat#0420: same size
JustinXenyx#8854: your 4210u is a haswell chip, a 6500u is skylake
LaeMat#0420: no take out the old mono
LaeMat#0420: *mobo |
LaeMat#0420: and put in the 5559 mobo
LaeMat#0420: with i7
LaeMat#0420: @JustinXenyx
JustinXenyx#8854: I get that, but mobos from different generation laptops can be and are in most cases incompatible @LaeMat
LaeMat#0420: it’s the same case dimensions
LaeMat#0420: 5558 Signature Edition and 5559 have the same appearance except for mic, screen thickness, weight and internals
LaeMat#0420: the thickness of the display
LaeMat#0420: and (I think, don’t think so) digital mic or something
LaeMat#0420: search up “Dell Inspiron 5558 specs” and 5559
LaeMat#0420: check the dell website and PDF
JustinXenyx#8854: case dimensions mean jack shit
JustinXenyx#8854: the internal shit is the important stuff for mobo swaps
LaeMat#0420: mobos look identical
LaeMat#0420: this is 5558 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/571465738939007006/image0.jpg
LaeMat#0420: this is 5559 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/571465815304568917/image0.jpg |
LaeMat#0420: so amd Radeon or Intel 520?
JustinXenyx#8854: wym "intel 520"?
JustinXenyx#8854: and yeah, the mobos are pretty much the same, should be upgradable then
LaeMat#0420: Intel HD 520 graphics
JustinXenyx#8854: which AMD graphics would be available?
LaeMat#0420: Radeon R5 M335
JustinXenyx#8854: take that, it'll perform better than the HD520
LaeMat#0420: ok
LaeMat#0420: is it built into the mobo?
JustinXenyx#8854: most likely
LaeMat#0420: ok
JustinXenyx#8854: the top left corner on both of your pics has empty spots that look suspiciously like other mobo versions have a graphics chip and VRAM placed there
LaeMat#0420: *ships from Austin, Texas*
LaeMat#0420: this is no GPU https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/571468620656410627/image0.jpg
LaeMat#0420: this is Radeon https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/571468783751790632/image0.jpg |
JustinXenyx#8854: thats what i mean
LaeMat#0420: around $310 CAD
LaeMat#0420: 230 USD
LaeMat#0420: I’ll save the tab
LaeMat#0420: And an SSD too
Evvy#0001: oof
Evvy#0001: think it's worth upgrading an old first-gen i5 to something better, or just selling the system as-is?
Evvy#0001: specifically the i5-660 🤢
JustinXenyx#8854: @Evvy Xeons are omega cheap now and first gen dual core i5 systems are being valued to shit
Evvy#0001: ye but the best xeon for it is like 4 cores and 8 threads and still $90 on ebay
Evvy#0001: do the others have HT?
JustinXenyx#8854: x3430 doesn't, everything X3440 and up has as far as i remember
Rio#1000: yep
Rio#1000: x3440 is pennies and 4c8t
Rio#1000: the x3480 is $$$$ because its rare and near perfect silicon |
Deleted User#0000: so basically my screen has been flickering in kubuntu and only kubuntu so I figured that the graphics drivers might be the problem. I know this sounds a bit noobish but I havent been using linux for awhile, so could anyone tell me how to reinstall drivers
Rio#1000: on ubuntu you just type drivers into the start menu
Evvy#0001: o okay
mi3night#2562: @Tech Helper how much voltage should I increase on my rx580 8gb for 1550mhz
Alcyone#2233: as much as it needs, you cant set anything unsafe on the default bios. Max power limit, increase slider, add 25mv if it artifacts or crashes
Evvy#0001: oh dang, my board only has pci gen 2 slots
Evvy#0001: would that gimp something like a 970 or below?
Alcyone#2233: no. i ran firestrike on a sandy and a coffee lake with 1070. graphics score was margin of error
Evvy#0001: hot
Evvy#0001: this spec sheet for the memory is confusing, and also probably my last question
Evvy#0001: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/571566825528098816/unknown.png
Evvy#0001: does this mean i have to fill all 4 RAM slots with 4GB dimms, or does it mean 4GB per side, so 8GB can fit on one stick and I can get that sick dual-channel junk goin'?
TheFifthAce#4128: it means 16gb total
Evvy#0001: well, ye
TheFifthAce#4128: 4x4 is dual channel too |
Evvy#0001: oh, i've heard some mixed up things then
Evvy#0001: sweet
Alcyone#2233: it can only use 2gb per rank so if its 4gb dimms they need to be dual sided
Evvy#0001: gotcha boss
Evvy#0001: so if there was a ram stick with 4 sides, it might be able to do 8 GB per stick
Evvy#0001: :Thonking:
Alcyone#2233: heh
Evvy#0001: ty for the help my dudes
Evvy#0001: also wow, these xeons are almost the same price as a q6600 c':
JustinXenyx#8854: @mi3night 1550Mhz is pretty unlikely with a average card afaik, try something lower first and then try to go higher
MythologicalZ#3752: 1420 or so is more realistic for most cards
Jamie.Cullen#8363: is 20 euro for a Fractal R4 good?
MythologicalZ#3752: Fairly old case that
MythologicalZ#3752: 20 sounds fine assuming decent condition
Jamie.Cullen#8363: mmm |
Jamie.Cullen#8363: https://www.adverts.ie/towers/fractal-define-r4-silver-windowless/17421875
MythologicalZ#3752: Lol
MythologicalZ#3752: I wouldn't take it tbh
MythologicalZ#3752: Unless you plan on modding
Jamie.Cullen#8363: nope
MythologicalZ#3752: I'd get some pics before though
MythologicalZ#3752: Maybe its not as bad
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Looking for deals to build a pc to se;;
Jamie.Cullen#8363: sell*
Evvy#0001: it's not a great deal tbh
Jamie.Cullen#8363: this is in euro not dollars though
JustinXenyx#8854: pretty decent case for 20€, doubt that you're gonna find anything similar quality wise at that price points @Jamie.Cullen
JustinXenyx#8854: also its in pretty decent condition for 20€
JustinXenyx#8854: was figuring it would look like shit
Jamie.Cullen#8363: I'm just looking at local deals to build a pc |
Jamie.Cullen#8363: @JustinXenyx what do you think if I get some of these for €60 each?
Jamie.Cullen#8363: https://www.adverts.ie/desktops/desktop-asus-i3-4130-mini-tower-8gb-ram-4th-gen-500gb-hhd/17470168
Jamie.Cullen#8363: add in 1TB drive, and GPU's
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Or should I do Aliexpress builds to upsell?
Tinybox#9112: Thoughts? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/571775535487647764/unknown.png
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/571775568941547536/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: radeon 7 🤢
Tinybox#9112: But the Radeon VII is a cheaper 2080, since it now EVEN outperforms it
TheFifthAce#4128: does it now?
Tinybox#9112: after fixes..and driver updates
TheFifthAce#4128: hm
Tinybox#9112: yea
Tinybox#9112: it does
MythologicalZ#3752: Still runs rather hot
TheFifthAce#4128: dont get a patriot burst |
TheFifthAce#4128: phison s11 iirc
MythologicalZ#3752: It is
TheFifthAce#4128: yeah dont get that shit
MythologicalZ#3752: So yeah avoid
Tinybox#9112: ah ok @TheFifthAce
Tinybox#9112: patriot burst bad?
TheFifthAce#4128: get an l5 lite 3d or su800 or bx500
TheFifthAce#4128: yeah the phison s11 controller is slow and has high failure rates
TheFifthAce#4128: there's a reason they sell for so cheap lmao
TheFifthAce#4128: "oh theres the ssd that looks fine for cheaper than this other SSD, I bet there's no compromises there!"
JustinXenyx#8854: PSU is shit
TheFifthAce#4128: is what I imagine what people think when they pick an a400
JustinXenyx#8854: case is mediocre
TheFifthAce#4128: oh yeah that psu if :oof:
Tinybox#9112: guy likes the case. |
Tinybox#9112: soo like meh.
Tinybox#9112: PSU is no no too?
TheFifthAce#4128: get a tx550m or something
JustinXenyx#8854: PSU is absolute no go
TheFifthAce#4128: or a focus gold 650
JustinXenyx#8854: I'd recommend a different case, that one has basically no air flow @Tinybox
MythologicalZ#3752: Motherboard doesn't look particularly great either
Tinybox#9112: Is the Silverstone strider essentiall any good?
@JustinXenyx Ill look for a diff case the guy likes
JustinXenyx#8854: Also, a former member had his Patriot Burst fail and the warranty service was straight ass
TheFifthAce#4128: lads rise of the tomb raider wont let me change the refresh rate
TheFifthAce#4128: :sadman:
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/571776882526126080/unknown.png
JustinXenyx#8854: Like, Patriot wanted him to pay for shipping
TheFifthAce#4128: also do I use dx12 on a 1060 |
JustinXenyx#8854: DX12 is pretty meh on Nvidia cards
TheFifthAce#4128: better on the 580 iirc
JustinXenyx#8854: DX11 can even perform better to a mild degree
TheFifthAce#4128: so stick with dx11?
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/571777151108382751/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: anything that I have here that's wack?
JustinXenyx#8854: @Tinybox Why would you go so cheap with the power supply and then get a Radeon 7?
TheFifthAce#4128: ^
Tinybox#9112: asked him for a bit more of a budget
Tinybox#9112: so Ill get a better PSU
Tinybox#9112: change out the SSD
JustinXenyx#8854: Honestly, i'd dump the Radeon 7
TheFifthAce#4128: used 1080 ti time
TheFifthAce#4128: justin should I change any of those settings
JustinXenyx#8854: They look fine for the 1060 |
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