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DarknessFalls229#2286: just buy a decent one then
TheFifthAce#4128: deer rebrands
miklos_akos#1999: Ain't touching that shit ever again after it blew a whole Athlon64 3000+ based PC
TheFifthAce#4128: Amacrox psus are good too
TheFifthAce#4128: theyre all FSP
TheFifthAce#4128: and yeah any deer rebrand is an automatic trash
SussyBalls#4615: the new line of vs psus are alright, they are actually the old cx iirc
TheFifthAce#4128: yes I said that
TheFifthAce#4128: they're still group regulated so kinda gay but they aren't awful
TheFifthAce#4128: cx is dcdc
miklos_akos#1999: Also I'm not that worried about fried parts because the mobo has some beefy protection circuitry
miklos_akos#1999: The mobo once got an overvoltage from a CAT 5e cable and the LAN chip still works
TheFifthAce#4128: good joke
TheFifthAce#4128: >overprotection on g41/775
TheFifthAce#4128: good meme |
miklos_akos#1999: It only needed a disable-enable cycle in the bios
TheFifthAce#4128: they fry just like any other part
miklos_akos#1999: Idk, a lightning strike is actually waaay too powerful to fry shit
miklos_akos#1999: But the mobo and the LAN chip survived
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/629041492538949643/unknown.png
Tinybox#9112: So one of my friends wants to power his R9 290 with this...
Tinybox#9112: *R9 270
BigPierogi#3368: looks like a bomb
Tinybox#9112: Via 2x molex > 6 pin
Tinybox#9112: and hes hella poor
Tinybox#9112: ***Is this good enough to have a running system***?
BigPierogi#3368: i probably dont know much
BigPierogi#3368: but that psu doesnt look great
BigPierogi#3368: whats his other specs
Tinybox#9112: I5 2500k |
Tinybox#9112: Probably gonna be oc'ed tbh
Tinybox#9112: @4-4.2Ghz
Hoping to get nearly stock voltage
BigPierogi#3368: how many watts is that psu
Tinybox#9112: 400w
DarknessFalls229#2286: @TheFifthAce PSU here, opinions?
DarknessFalls229#2286: Its FSP with 192w on the 12v
DarknessFalls229#2286: might be enough for an r9 270
TheFifthAce#4128: r9 270 + 2500k?
Tinybox#9112: yep
TheFifthAce#4128: undervolt the 270 and its fine
Tinybox#9112: I5 2500k at stock voltage prob
Tinybox#9112: Well nearly
TheFifthAce#4128: dual 16a 12v isn't bad
Tinybox#9112: @TheFifthAce alright thanks ill send that to the lad |
DarknessFalls229#2286: oh yeah, dual 16a
DarknessFalls229#2286: thats pretty good
DarknessFalls229#2286: for such a psu
TheFifthAce#4128: well not
TheFifthAce#4128: its a cheap way of improving a weak 12v
TheFifthAce#4128: but it does have advantages and disadvantages
DarknessFalls229#2286: at least my 12v rail of my main is 1 rail
TheFifthAce#4128: 1 rail is typically seen as better
miklos_akos#1999: I'm heading to pick up that FSP PSU I mentioned before
miklos_akos#1999: If my stuff didn't get cooked while the PSU had a suicidal moment this PSU would be a good replacement?
https://bulk.fsp-europe.com/sp500-a @TheFifthAce
DarknessFalls229#2286: 34A on the 12v AND by FSP, sounds good enough
miklos_akos#1999: The one I can test my PC out so I won't waste money on something I won't use https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/629284188775776266/IMG_20191003_135000.jpg
miklos_akos#1999: Just for a simple power on test this should be enough, right?
miklos_akos#1999: @TheFifthAce @DarknessFalls229 |
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah, thats good
DarknessFalls229#2286: should be able to run your system permanently i think, if you dont OC and such
miklos_akos#1999: I plan on OCing so this is just a temporary solution
miklos_akos#1999: My CPU is legit underclocked rn
miklos_akos#1999: IT WORKS https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/629303973278384128/IMG_20191003_150837.jpg
miklos_akos#1999: Nothing got fried: ram seems to be okay, my gpu seems to be working fine
miklos_akos#1999: And that rock solid 12V rail is my love
TheFifthAce#4128: Yes
SussyBalls#4615: got a frankenstein ThinkStation E31 in a ThinkCenter case (why?) with a Xeon equivalent of an i5 3470, with 32gb of cl9 corsair vengeance and the generic board and power supply for 66 euro/73 usd
SussyBalls#4615: nice
SussyBalls#4615: also had some apple usb male to male inside it for some reason
TheGeekster#8508: apple? 😏 male to male?
TheGeekster#8508: but nice deal 🤔
sajanator3#3333: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/629377373455777792/IMG_20191003_190029.jpg
sajanator3#3333: This happens when I try run seus shaders |
sajanator3#3333: All other shaders work
Alcyone#2233: hawaiigang https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/629387560715812864/unknown.png
sajanator3#3333: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/629394065196187689/unknown.png
sajanator3#3333: it also happens with sushi shadrrs
sajanator3#3333: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/629406019960700955/unknown.png
sajanator3#3333: ok i got it to work
sajanator3#3333: but this happens
sajanator3#3333: ok i got it to work
sajanator3#3333: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/629437451185815582/unknown.png
Deleted User#0000: Alright, so does anyone know if Download Play will still work on a DSi XL after installing Unlaunch & TWiLight Menu?
Deleted User#0000: And playing with other DS's in general
Deleted User#0000: pls ping me if u respond
TheFifthAce#4128: @Deleted User HEC is utter garbage
miklos_akos#1999: I blew one of my pc up with shitty psus and my current main also got fried by cheap ass psus @Deleted User
miklos_akos#1999: If you don't hammer the 5V rail that much you can get away with a new psu |
JustinXenyx#8854: HEC sadly is garbage, even if they produced for BeQuiet before
JustinXenyx#8854: Although even those units were pretty meh or trash if i remember right
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: windows : wants update and restart
Me : puts PC sleep
Electricity goes out
Me : opens PC annnd black screen
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: Nothing
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: Just black screen
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: I'm gonna try plugging into igpu
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: loading windows
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: Wtf
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: It works
SuSSudio#2688: :haha:
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: I'm gonna wait till |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: It opens
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: And update
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: And boot from card
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: 'Opens" like fully boots
SuSSudio#2688: windows didnt run the update when you're not restarting yet
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: oh
SuSSudio#2688: when it cuts from power it most likely passed through the update execution
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: It was just freaking out
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: Ok
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: nah
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: It still wants to updaye
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: But the electricity prob was what freaked it out
SuSSudio#2688: well thats normal in every computer
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/629684751489302528/JPEG_20191004_162136.jpg
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: Yes still wants to update |
SuSSudio#2688: since it essentially stopped all the data process
SuSSudio#2688: great
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: First let's plug into gpu
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: booting
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: OK I think it works I'll update it and tell u if anything goes wrong but I think its ok
SuSSudio#2688: it should be fine afterwards
SuSSudio#2688: unless power cut whilst update installing
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: Sorry if that was a plz bro but I swear it wasn't working :Hahahahaha: I just swapped the display to igd
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: Ur not annoyed ye???
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: like that I asked for help
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: If ur annoyed its fine but trust me I didn't mean a plz bro
SuSSudio#2688: i'm not annoyed
SuSSudio#2688: :DickPick:
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: :Hahahahaha:
SuSSudio#2688: dunno why u thought like that but, i was happy trying to help u |
SuSSudio#2688: so dGPU is working fine now?
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: Most people when I ask for a problem then solve it myslef or I already know how to solve it , its a plz bro that pisses off people :Hahahahaha: but rn I really tried alot of things and it boiled down to re install thought I need help but swapping to igd solved it , so ........glad ur not annoyed
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: Yes works fine
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: Works to
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: A
SuSSudio#2688: :TheGoods:
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: Certain extent its not displaying correct res https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/629686984519975011/JPEG_20191004_163013.jpg
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: But it works
SuSSudio#2688: @the aggresive toilet flusher Usually display adapter update install in progress
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: ok its finally done
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: took 2 hours
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: epic
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: new shit:
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: -
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: the sEaRCh bAR |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: damn it windows
SussyBalls#4615: How much can a 212 evo cool without a fan?
SussyBalls#4615: Well found out not much
JustinXenyx#8854: I mean, it's not really designed to be run without a fan tbf
SussyBalls#4615: Well looking closer it's a tx3, either way, got no fan for it atm
naut#3367: Is this doo doo https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/629738900335624213/20191004_104722.jpg
JustinXenyx#8854: Most likely
naut#3367: Ah alright
naut#3367: When was it made btw
DarknessFalls229#2286: cooler master no good?
DarknessFalls229#2286: or just old/shitty model
naut#3367: Some of them good
naut#3367: Old model I believe
JustinXenyx#8854: Brands NEVER matter when it comes to PSUs
naut#3367: No date when I found it |
JustinXenyx#8854: Even brands that are known as good have shitty power supplies in their catalogue
naut#3367: I see
DarknessFalls229#2286: just some brands more than others, but what about this unit?
naut#3367: :Thonking:
DarknessFalls229#2286: must say
DarknessFalls229#2286: my 700 watt cooler master PSU blew up
naut#3367: Rip
DarknessFalls229#2286: like 3 months ago
JustinXenyx#8854: That thing is garbage
naut#3367: Mine is a 500w mwr brone
naut#3367: Ah
DarknessFalls229#2286: now ive got a new cooler master PSU
JustinXenyx#8854: That cooler master PSU is over 10 years old at this point
naut#3367: I see
JustinXenyx#8854: But even then it probably wasn't the best of units |
naut#3367: Te
naut#3367: Ye
naut#3367: I found it at a flea market and they were selling it for $1
naut#3367: :OmegaxD:
DarknessFalls229#2286: damn
DarknessFalls229#2286: if it works
DarknessFalls229#2286: why not
naut#3367: I was like nah not gonna take the risk of a fire in my house
naut#3367: :FeelsBadMan:
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah, OLD PSUs are hit or miss
naut#3367: Ye
naut#3367: Very true
DarknessFalls229#2286: both my 700 watt PSUs set a good example
DarknessFalls229#2286: one blew up without much of a load, the other is powering my main with a 2080
DarknessFalls229#2286: and has been powering my main for years now |
naut#3367: Remember kids, never cheap out on a psu
DarknessFalls229#2286: meanwhile me buying a 50 euro used PSU
naut#3367: :NibbaWhat3:
naut#3367: :nibbawhat1: :nibbawhat2: :NibbaWhat3:
DarknessFalls229#2286: though, its a 1200 watt cooler master silent pro gold 80plus gold
naut#3367: Nice
naut#3367: Mine is 80+ bronze
DarknessFalls229#2286: using it for my skulltrail platform
DarknessFalls229#2286: dual 771 baby
naut#3367: :dAB:
DarknessFalls229#2286: though, no VT baby 😦
naut#3367: :FeelsBadMan:
DarknessFalls229#2286: means no windows 10
naut#3367: Oof
JustinXenyx#8854: Although i will say that a cheap or used PSU doesn't always have to be garbage |
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah
DarknessFalls229#2286: once again, hit or miss
naut#3367: Real power pro by cooler master
naut#3367: Very interesting
naut#3367: Was gonna buy gtx 1660 ti
naut#3367: But then decided to wait for gtx 1660 super
DarknessFalls229#2286: you what
DarknessFalls229#2286: nvidias gonna release what
naut#3367: Gtx 1660 super
DarknessFalls229#2286: just buy a used GTX 1080
naut#3367: Dont have the money
naut#3367: :FeelsBadMan:
DarknessFalls229#2286: @JustinXenyx What is the best GPU in the "1660 super" price range?
JustinXenyx#8854: What the fuck is a 1660 Super
naut#3367: The new gpu nvidia releasing on october 22nd |
naut#3367: :JellyBeanFace:
JustinXenyx#8854: I have literally never heard of that card
JustinXenyx#8854: Only in rumors
naut#3367: But yeah, was planning to buy 1660 ti
naut#3367: But then gonna wait until I get money
naut#3367: And see if 1660 super is good ir no
JustinXenyx#8854: Also, NVIDIA wouldn't be so retarded to release a 1660 Super basically months after having released the 1660 and 1660Ti
JustinXenyx#8854: the 2060/70/80 Super are direct replacements for the 2060/70/80 cards
naut#3367: Ye
MythologicalZ#3752: 1660S is probably a rumour
MythologicalZ#3752: 1650ti that's been doing the rounds is probably going to be real
JustinXenyx#8854: 1660S would also make no sense and couldn't make sense
JustinXenyx#8854: the gap between a 1660 and a 1660Ti is so close, you couldn't fit a 1660 Super in there
JustinXenyx#8854: Not just performance gap, but also the price gap
JustinXenyx#8854: Knowing the current approach of their super cards the 1660 Super would be better than the 1660 but only very slightly worse than the 1660Ti |
naut#3367: The 1650 ti rumors were false
naut#3367: Apparently we have 1650 super
naut#3367: :NibbaWhat3:
JustinXenyx#8854: And how do you know that?
naut#3367: Googled it up
Alcyone#2233: 1660 S is identical to 1660 but has gddr6 instead of gddr5 from the rumors
JustinXenyx#8854: 🤦
MythologicalZ#3752: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-1650-ti.c3411
MythologicalZ#3752: Strange
Alcyone#2233: so less cores but more mem bandwidth than the 1660 ti, doesnt make sense
JustinXenyx#8854: Placeholder Page @MythologicalZ
JustinXenyx#8854: @Alcyone Exactly, the card couldn't make sense if they would actually do it
Alcyone#2233: nvidia might just do it though
naut#3367: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/629744447390744577/gigabyte-rx-5500-series-listing-740x416.jpg
Alcyone#2233: there was the 1050 3gb with 1050ti cores and gimped vram |
naut#3367: If you look closely it says nv 165s
naut#3367: :Thonking:
Alcyone#2233: and the 1060 5gb for china. could be a model for asian countries only
JustinXenyx#8854: Gigabyte also registered 6 different variants of a 2060 with the EEC
JustinXenyx#8854: And there weren't 6 different 2060 variants
JustinXenyx#8854: https://hexus.net/media/uploaded/2018/12/794a0078-4e1a-4d92-997b-0b7779f84b18.png
JustinXenyx#8854: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/629744969153773629/9af47475-4302-4046-aa2c-64c484045858.png
JustinXenyx#8854: And did we ever see a 3 or 4GB 2060? No
Alcyone#2233: not yet :Gru:
Alcyone#2233: they are just waiting to build hype for the 2060 ti super duper
JustinXenyx#8854: What i'm trying to say is: Sometimes even the manufacturers of the cards have no idea what the card will actually be called
wiryfuture🦀#1706: now we need 2080 Ti Super Duper Epic Gamer Edition (OC)
Emma!#2785: omae wa mou shindeiru
naut#3367: 2080 ti super duper ultra mega epic fortnite thanosbgaker edition super clocked oc when
SussyBalls#4615: 2090 ti sli uber gamer oc 8k pcie 4 2x gpu cores minecraft skin ultra durable 5x protection weed number sex number funny retard edition |
Xbox 360 1953#2640: How do you guys determine whether a psu or not with just a picture of the label?
TheGeekster#8508: The label tells you the pecs, brand, age roughly, then it's looking it up from there
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Like sometimes people can tell based on rail stuff
Xbox 360 1953#2640: like 12v and 5v and stuff
TheFifthAce#4128: I can tell
TheFifthAce#4128: uwu
Xbox 360 1953#2640: how
Exomilav#5434: RX 5500 time
Exomilav#5434: or RX 5600
Exomilav#5434: smh my Vega 56 is considered the new RX 570
Deleted User#0000: lol
Deleted User#0000: i do like how AMD'S decided to go back to two digits then two zeroes
Deleted User#0000: like with nvidia "8800" sounds more pleasing to me than "2080"
Flannel84#2980: Very odd question, but what is considered the best 512mb graphics card in terms of directx support/most recent drivers? I'm looking to do some testing and need the best/most recent that I can find.
TheFifthAce#4128: agp or pcie |
Gamefreak924#5901: is there a good free disc ripper around? Some software that could allow me to perhaps take episodes of a show off of a blu-ray or standard DVD (and convert I guess?) to have a digital copy of on my phone or something?
Emma!#2785: win amp
Flannel84#2980: @TheFifthAce PCIE
Budget#8265: 512MB is probably like HD 4000 Series era
Budget#8265: Mayve even 5000 or even 7000 Series
Lady Mipha#0611: I think it was 7450 that had a 512mb version
Jam#0384: My nvidia 7800 from 2006 had 256mb
Alcyone#2233: hd 4870 is prob the strongest 512mb single gpu
hd 3870x2, 4850x2 or 9800 gx2 might be the overall fastest
glhf with terrascale crossfire though
Flannel84#2980: I'll look into those
mish#5687: is it possible to patch microcode from other cpus to another cpus like flashing bioses on cards
mish#5687: i mean
mish#5687: like
mish#5687: intel core i3 kaby lake microcode on a pentium g4600 |
JustinXenyx#8854: Not even in the slightest @mish
JustinXenyx#8854: Why would you even want to do that?
Flannel84#2980: I just remembered I have a GT 8800, thoughts on this card for testing 512 mb? Or would it be better searching for something a 9800 GTX+?
wapted#6788: cheap ass but decent AC wifi routers/access point suggestions
mish#5687: @JustinXenyx the pentium g4600 is a downgraded cabby lak i3
JustinXenyx#8854: I know it's a downgraded Kabylake i3, but it's missing hardware features you can't get back by replacing them with a microcode
mish#5687: btw
mish#5687: how do i monitor igpu usage
mish#5687: i want to monitor how much the vega 3 in my laptop is used
mish#5687: its kind of a beasty laptop
wapted#6788: gpu-z
mish#5687: i mean msi afterburner
wapted#6788: you... open it?
mish#5687: then i try to monitor the gpu its stuck at 0% while the cpu usage is extremely high
mish#5687: *when |
Deleted User#0000: I got a 3:5 inch drive which reads internal hard drives but it doesnt work? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/630142769050157076/JPEG_20191005_214150.jpg
Deleted User#0000: I dont even know what to call it ? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/630142934993469452/JPEG_20191005_214253.jpg
TheGeekster#8508: 3.5 hard drive dock
TheGeekster#8508: does it work with other drives? does the drive spin up? they normally just pass through power & sata from internal
Deleted User#0000: The drive doesnt spin up but idk if it's got it set up wrong?
TheGeekster#8508: have you got a spare drive to try it with?
Deleted User#0000: Yeah it doesnt pick up any drives
TheGeekster#8508: checked the power & sata connectors in the back of the dock?
Deleted User#0000: yeah I'm pretty sure they are
Deleted User#0000: as I checked it twice
TheGeekster#8508: try connecting a drive directly to the sata cable & power connector, if it works, dead dock unfortunately, brittle connectors normally
Deleted User#0000: good idea, I'll try that
Deleted User#0000: its probably a broke connection as it was taken out if a box of loose accessories and cables
Prec1sioN#8040: is there a way to get 1080p@60hz without using Displayport?
thatubuntuguy#5914: Hdmi? |
thatubuntuguy#5914: VGA?
Prec1sioN#8040: I tried HDMI but it only goes up to 59 hz
thatubuntuguy#5914: That’s weird
thatubuntuguy#5914: I run 60hz 1080p
thatubuntuguy#5914: Over hdmi and Cha
thatubuntuguy#5914: *vga
Prec1sioN#8040: when I try to select 60hz it switches to 480p
thatubuntuguy#5914: Have you tried adding a custom resolution in cru
thatubuntuguy#5914: Or listing all modes in the graphics adapter proprieties
thatubuntuguy#5914: *properties
Prec1sioN#8040: not yet but I will.
Prec1sioN#8040: 1 min
thatubuntuguy#5914: Sure
Prec1sioN#8040: found the issue
Prec1sioN#8040: Radeon Drivers version 19.9.2 |
thatubuntuguy#5914: Fair enough
thatubuntuguy#5914: But if you Cba to update you can always add a custom resolution
Prec1sioN#8040: I needed NVidia driver version 342 for it to work
tdp2612#3835: on whatever the newst drivers are
tdp2612#3835: i have hdmi at 1080 60, and dvi i through a vga adapter into a 900p monitor, also 60
Flannel84#2980: Odd question, but would a workstation GPU (512mb) pan out better then looking for an old gaming one? From what I've noticed the old AMD workstation cards have some slightly newer drivers, albeit not meant for gaming.
Deleted User#0000: So I've got 3 hard drives installed and windows is only picking up two of them
Deleted User#0000: but the drive is there on disk genius
Deleted User#0000: Any ideas why it wont pick up?
tdp2612#3835: have you set it up?
tdp2612#3835: when i added a 2nd hdd, I needed to google how to make file explorer show it
Deleted User#0000: yeah it doesnt show in file explorer
tdp2612#3835: you on win7 or 10?
Deleted User#0000: 10
tdp2612#3835: ok search for 'disk management' in the bottom left thing |
Lady Mipha#0611: Have you checked disk management
tdp2612#3835: then you just have to allocate a partition on the new disk so it can be used
Deleted User#0000: it appears in disk management yes
tdp2612#3835: lemme refer back to google, ive semi forgotten how to
Deleted User#0000: oh cool, the hard drive has had only 4 hours of use lol
tdp2612#3835: https://windowsreport.com/second-hard-drive-not-detected-windows-10/
tdp2612#3835: you need to give it a letter, not reformat it
tdp2612#3835: thats the guide i used like a month ago
Deleted User#0000: thanks
Deleted User#0000: so its here
Deleted User#0000: Its here as disk one https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/630328355580805131/JPEG_20191006_095940.jpg
Deleted User#0000: But isnt here https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/630328421557469195/JPEG_20191006_095954.jpg
TheGeekster#8508: You need to right click on the "Unallocated" area, "Format" and then format it is NTFS, give it a label what you want, "Quick Format" and away you go
tdp2612#3835: nvm you *do* need to format it and give it a letter
Deleted User#0000: eh? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/630329269838544896/JPEG_20191006_100324.jpg |
tdp2612#3835: new single volume i think
tdp2612#3835: lemme check
tdp2612#3835: *simple
Deleted User#0000: yeah it is
Deleted User#0000: There we go
Deleted User#0000: it's done
tdp2612#3835: do that, make it ntfs
tdp2612#3835: and then give it a letter to make it appear in line with al your other drives
tdp2612#3835: looks like you do it like i do
Deleted User#0000: I have
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/630329823171969045/JPEG_20191006_100536.jpg
tdp2612#3835: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/630329842990317579/unknown.png
Deleted User#0000: Thanks
Deleted User#0000: Where would this connect to a motherboard? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/630367750027739167/JPEG_20191006_123607.jpg
Deleted User#0000: it's a 3pin and single pin |
mxckzy#0744: would an fx 4170 bottleneck an amd r9 280x
Lady Mipha#0611: @Deleted User does it have anything on the other side
Lady Mipha#0611: @mxckzy probably
TheGeekster#8508: @mxckzy Yes massively, please don't consider upgrading anything on that platform, and look to move off it onto something more modern
mxckzy#0744: i just cant afford any better
mxckzy#0744: my current is a phenom 2 x4 965
TheGeekster#8508: with an R9 280x?
TheGeekster#8508: Honestly you'd might as well save your money right now, and not upgrade, the fx 4170 is only about 5-10% maximum any better than the phenom 2, there's not much point to spending the money tbh
Lady Mipha#0611: ^
mxckzy#0744: Im gonna get an fx6300 for my birthday just cus its cheap
TheGeekster#8508: is it compatible with your motherboard?
Lady Mipha#0611: ^
Deleted User#0000: @Lady Mipha nah
mxckzy#0744: Yes
Lady Mipha#0611: @Deleted User have you tried looking where it comes out from |
TheGeekster#8508: Out of interest, tried looking for an entire replacement mobo & cpu combo? honestly you can get them so very dirt cheap especially 2nd or 4th gen i5's, it might be worth having a check if you can get them for the same price
Deleted User#0000: @Lady Mipha it comes out of a sd card reader thingy
Lady Mipha#0611: Then it would probably go into the media slot
mxckzy#0744: Im paying 20 for the cpu as an upgrade
Deleted User#0000: which is where on the mobo?
Lady Mipha#0611: A photo please @Deleted User
Lady Mipha#0611: Of the motherboard
MythologicalZ#3752: 20 for a 6300 is a scam
MythologicalZ#3752: It's a shit CPU, way better off selling your Am3+ crap and moving to 1155
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/630386615411408896/JPEG_20191006_134718.jpg
Lady Mipha#0611: 🤔
TheGeekster#8508: show us the device the cable comes out of, pic of the front?
Deleted User#0000: and this is the usb cable https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/630387289788514304/JPEG_20191006_135349.jpg
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/630387343949299732/JPEG_20191006_135412.jpg
tdp2612#3835: @Deleted User i think that just plugs into a usb header |
Haris Džinović#5160: Guys I realised i had 2400mhz on my ram which is factory 3000, switched to profile 1 so it gets the 3000 mhz stock, but now out of all 8 only 4 gb is usable 🤔
Galilool#3398: switch to profile2, profile 1 is shit
Deleted User#0000: Should I upgrade my CPU (Pentium G3240) in order for it to be paired with a GT 9500?
Galilool#3398: you should upgrade your GPU mate
Deleted User#0000: Nah, it's perfectly fine. It runs 10FPS on 540p on Far Cry 5
Deleted User#0000: I thought the CPU was the bottleneck
Galilool#3398: are you trolling or do you lack intellect?
Deleted User#0000: Maybe. No.
TheGeekster#8508: *And no tech zone for you*
Galilool#3398: what does NTZ mean?
TheGeekster#8508: No Tech Zone, you can't send messages in tech zone
TheGeekster#8508: rare it has to be used
Galilool#3398: issued to trolls?
TheGeekster#8508: Yarp
DarknessFalls229#2286: 🇳 🇴 🇹 3⃣ 🇨 🇭 🇿 🔛 🇪 |
DarknessFalls229#2286: close enough
Galilool#3398: why is it only for tech help chat?
Galilool#3398: wouldn't it make sense for it to be applicable for all three tech zone channels?
DarknessFalls229#2286: Though, why is praetorian able to use ractions?
TheGeekster#8508: Tech help is the channel for actual help
Galilool#3398: @DarknessFalls229 that is the bigger question here
DarknessFalls229#2286: but is it not Tech Help _AND_ talk?
DarknessFalls229#2286: or just not feeding the troll?
Galilool#3398: still.
action -> reaction
trolling -> ban
Budget#8265: I think anyone looking to buy AM3 Over 1155 here just should take my advice and not even look at AM3 for most use cases
Galilool#3398: Phenom II were sick
TheFifthAce#4128: am3 is large homo
TheFifthAce#4128: 1155 is way better |
Alcyone#2233: if you have everything already, an am3 cpu upgrade isnt the worst idea, if you are buying a motherboard for it though, don't
Alcyone#2233: my 955be at max oc could just edge out a stock i5 2400. but they lack sse instructions? so you can't play some games on old am3 stuff even if it has the power to do so
Tinybox#9112: I guess ill just quickly ask.
Tinybox#9112: So my uncle gave me a 25 euro AMAZON CARD.
so, should I try to buy new antennas for my ASUS AC750?! (It doesn't even put the 5G line avaliable often, so far for some weird reason it's in a 3 day intervall?! on the 2.4ghz line, response is horrible.
^^This is only for this adapter it seems, my Laptop works fine on 5G WIFI.
Or do I buy one of these.
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01MY83JGN
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07LGMD97Z
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07P681N66
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00K11UIV4
I know they are all USB, the TP LIN T3U though is USB 3.0
My WIFI speed is 100 down 130 up.
Distance from my router; 4-6 Meters piercing through one Wall. (A reinforced stone wall)
BigPierogi#3368: I don't know much |
BigPierogi#3368: But my wife adapter is pretty good
BigPierogi#3368: Ether net I get like 80mbps with my setup
BigPierogi#3368: WiFi is like 50
BigPierogi#3368: I can link it if you want
JustinXenyx#8854: NEVER get a USB Wifi cards if you want to get good speeds from them
BigPierogi#3368: I got one
BigPierogi#3368: It's not bad for 15 dollars
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah but the high speed ones shit themselves because they get too hot
BigPierogi#3368: I got some 300mbps one
BigPierogi#3368: I'll link it
BigPierogi#3368: https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-TL-WN822N-Wireless-Networking-Adapter/dp/B009NH29QY/ref=mp_s_a_1_11?keywords=tplink+usb+wifi+adapter&qid=1570475225&sr=8-11
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx I kinda just wanna at least get 60 MBPS on my 5G line. (Because the 2.4ghz line gets really croweded for our home)
Tinybox#9112: the high speed ones are shit?
Tinybox#9112: Constant speed is what I want.
Tinybox#9112: I could try them all out, give them all a shot and a good test then return it to amazon, for "not satisfied". |
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah, they suffer from the typical heat issues in their form factor @Tinybox
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx My absolute inital though was to use the "extension cable" to route it into my case in front of my case fan..
Tinybox#9112: Or to use my internal USB >"external" USB adapter.
Flannel84#2980: Anyone have any experience replacing popped capacitors/identifying capacitors?
Abe.#3344: If you search up the item with the popped capacitor, you can probably find the make of the capacitor.
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx
The smaller the adapter, the probably shittier it is, correct?
Tinybox#9112: Plus you said those high speed ones always get super hot when at high speeds?
Y think a Higher speed rated adapter will still get hotter than a lower speed one, when running at the same speed.
(T2U AC600 vs T3U AC1300)
Tinybox#9112: Anyway, I got a feeling my best bet is the T2U Plus.
The external ANTENNA, and bigger size might help with heat.
Tinybox#9112: If that doesn't work for me ill go buy a T3U AC1300, if all that is a no go ill say screw it and skip buying a new mouse, and instead get a pcie adapter
miklos_akos#1999: Why does GTA 4 run like crap?
https://youtu.be/K9_T8Z-FL8M |
miklos_akos#1999: I have a legitimate copy btw
SuSSudio#2688: @miklos_akos ported from console version. The game was originally launched for consoles. Consoles at the time used the very proprietary RISC architectures.
SuSSudio#2688: This causes hardware emulation, which negatively impacts processing performance
miklos_akos#1999: ah
miklos_akos#1999: I remember pirating the game and without GFWL I had better performance with worse hardware
TheGeekster#8508: Honestly, never really had much of an issue with GTA4
TheGeekster#8508: even running it on a GTS250 with a Phenom x4 back in ye olden days, it was fine
dassa#5542: Does anyone that is online know a decent amout about laptops and specs
TheGeekster#8508: Aye @dassa most people in this server do, what's up?
dassa#5542: i found this laptop for really cheap but i see it sell for 3 times the price
dassa#5542: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06Y4GZS9C/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
dassa#5542: does it seem dogy to u
dassa#5542: its new and half the price of a used item
TheGeekster#8508: Massively, if it sounds too good to be true... it's too good to be true
JustinXenyx#8854: Way to sketch IMO for 430 quid |
JustinXenyx#8854: Seller doesn't have many bad ratings though, so it may be a fuckup with the listings? Probably swapped the price with something else
TheGeekster#8508: The sellers are completely unrelated to the item
TheGeekster#8508: It seems so shifty 😩
TheGeekster#8508: also the fact there's TWO sellers for the EXACT same price
TheGeekster#8508: 🤔 screams something's wrong
dassa#5542: what are amazons policys
TheGeekster#8508: "If you buy from a third-party seller whose items are not fulfilled by Amazon, you are protected by the company’s A-to-Z Guarantee Protection."
TheGeekster#8508: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/631141262103412758/amazon-a-z.png
JustinXenyx#8854: AKA you can try if you want, but you're probably gonna get shit on lol
TheGeekster#8508: you *should* be safe, but i wouldn't trust it
dassa#5542: does that count for uk
dassa#5542: i already ordered it
dassa#5542: ill cansel it
dassa#5542: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/631141694053810203/Screenshot_9.png
JustinXenyx#8854: Counts for basically everywhere where Amazon operates afaik |
TheGeekster#8508: from experience, if it's too cheap, it's dodgy
TheGeekster#8508: also from the review of those laptops, they have a looooot of heat issues 🤔 you may wanna look into it before buying
dassa#5542: yeah but a trottling 1060 is still way faster then a 1050 ti
dassa#5542: might as well just pay more for a piece of mind
JustinXenyx#8854: Also, just to have mentioned it, i just found ANOTHER laptop with scam pricing from S & S Sports: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B07F8ZXF38/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all
dassa#5542: yeah seen thst on
dassa#5542: they also do 1050 laptops for 250
dassa#5542: new
JustinXenyx#8854: yeah that's VERY sketch
dassa#5542: well thank you for your help
dassa#5542: most likey would have got scammed even tho amazon would give me a refund it would just be a headeche and a waste of time
Deleted User#0000: just bought a pc
Deleted User#0000: it has all the previous owners live streaming details still on
Deleted User#0000: people need to learn to wipe drives 😂
TheGeekster#8508: love it 😩 |
TheGeekster#8508: dox, stream dick, get him banned
Deleted User#0000: he was using a trust 720p webcam
TheGeekster#8508: 😏 720p is all you need when it's THAT big
Deleted User#0000: 😬😬
TheGeekster#8508: *my job here is done*
Deleted User#0000: 32 inch monitor though
Deleted User#0000: he even left his discord account
Deleted User#0000: bruhhh
SussyBalls#4615: bruh
ctrl + h hours
Deleted User#0000: He even got Vegas pro 16 on here
SussyBalls#4615: holy shit and yet he didn't wipe
Deleted User#0000: nah
SussyBalls#4615: 60 iq or someone else sold it for him
Deleted User#0000: well idk if its stole tbh |
Deleted User#0000: I bought it outside of a pub and we literally didnt talk in person
Deleted User#0000: he passed it to me and I gave him the cash
SussyBalls#4615: lmao tear it apart and sell the parts individually before you get yeeted and loose all money you spent
Deleted User#0000: I spent 35
Deleted User#0000: "All my money"
SussyBalls#4615: what are the specs?
SussyBalls#4615: thought it'd be a much more expensive system with the streaming and vegas
Deleted User#0000: I5 2400s,
8gb ram
500gb hdd
Hd 6770 1gb
Evga 600w white rated
SussyBalls#4615: nice deal
Deleted User#0000: he has a patron
SuSSudio#2688: wait so you were dealing a pc out of the blue? without asking the details online? |
SuSSudio#2688: or am i missing smth
SuSSudio#2688: you mentioned there he didnt talk to you literally
Deleted User#0000: I had a gaming tower listed and he messaged me over that listing asking "yo bro, do you wanna buy a computer"
Deleted User#0000: I said "yeah depending on the specs and price"
Deleted User#0000: he said the specs and the price he wanted
Deleted User#0000: and we met behind a pub
Deleted User#0000: and didnt speak in person about jt
SussyBalls#4615: shit that's beyond sketchy
Deleted User#0000: and he was gone before I got it back to the car
Deleted User#0000: ikr
Deleted User#0000: it was also in a black bin bag
TheGeekster#8508: *You met behind a pub*
SussyBalls#4615: maybe see if the details on it match up with the dude
SuSSudio#2688: damn that's like a quick minute deal
SussyBalls#4615: *which they likely don't* |
Deleted User#0000: well it's on gumtree so you dont get any details about people
SussyBalls#4615: if there was a twitch with a webcam there should be something you can see
also don't you even get their name?
SussyBalls#4615: you did see him though
Deleted User#0000: I can go support his patreon
Deleted User#0000: he name can change, like my name on gumtree is a single letter
Deleted User#0000: oh and he has obtained vegas pro "not very legally"
SussyBalls#4615: he didn't steal vegas he just multiplied it
Deleted User#0000: well he has a torrent downloaded
Deleted User#0000: oh and I've just now found out that the computer isnt stolen because he has videos of his channel saved 😂
SuSSudio#2688: y tho, why that dum to leave his drive loaded
Deleted User#0000: idk
Deleted User#0000: hes lucky I arent a mean person
Deleted User#0000: because he has a video of him doing live commentary, right next to a tormented version of pubg
MythologicalZ#3752: Torrented Pubg |
MythologicalZ#3752: Megathonk
Tinybox#9112: So, my friend, bought a Gigabyte P67UB3
Quite a while ago..it didn't boot.
Anyway, a while ago my friend decided "let's try this board again" then he realized the Board ONLYY boots when there is a CMOS jumper installed and removed after boot.
What could be the cause of this?
Tinybox#9112: The BIOS version is F2, which isn't uefi yet.
But I told him to give it a shot and update to F9 (still LEGACY, The newest version is a uefi one but it's beta)
Flannel84#2980: Would those larger capacitors be 1000uf since they arent marked? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/631182757485084672/20191007_145348.jpg
Alcyone#2233: yes
Flannel84#2980: Perfect, thank you.
Alcyone#2233: you can use higher voltage caps as well, but never lower
Alcyone#2233: so 1000uf 24v etc is good, 12v no
Tinybox#9112: @Alcyone
What could cause a board to not boot normally but instead want a cmos jumper to be installed every time.
Flannel84#2980: Thanks again @Alcyone |
Alcyone#2233: @Tinybox have you tried swapping the battery?
Tinybox#9112: @Alcyone yea
Alcyone#2233: that is strange. is it in the same config it was used in before? could be a bios issue
Tinybox#9112: Bios was updated using Q-FLASH, same thing occurred over multiple versions..
I guess Ill ask him to just try to set it to factory settings on BIOS "F9"
Alcyone#2233: also make sure something is plugged into cpu fan header. what mobo is it?
Tinybox#9112: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-P67A-UD3-B3-rev-1x/support#support-dl
Tinybox#9112: This is the board, luckily it has a dual bios
Tinybox#9112: Yes, there is a fan at CPU FAN
Alcyone#2233: make sure the boot drive is on one of the intel chipset sata port and the drives are config properly in bios. it can get fucky if its on the raid chip
Alcyone#2233: also will need csm support enabled if its uefi bios and a legacy gpu
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/631195804668788746/image0-3.jpg
Tinybox#9112: Load optimized defaults I guess?
Alcyone#2233: yeah, try that first. let it loop until it posts if its turning off and on by itself before starting. sometimes the board takes a few tries before it boots
Tinybox#9112: @Alcyone |
No, um there literally is no reaction to the power button..
Tinybox#9112: If there is no jumper
Tinybox#9112: Feels bad.
Alcyone#2233: if its 3 pin jumper, it may need to sit in the rest position to work
Tinybox#9112: It's just a 2 pin jumper
=no jumper "normal"
=Jumper "reset"
Tinybox#9112: Btw currently there is no booot drive
Alcyone#2233: and there is no post, but after clr cmos it will post?
Tinybox#9112: Yep
Tinybox#9112: Just when there is a jumper
Tinybox#9112: It posts with this;
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/631197201275682816/image0-1.png
Tinybox#9112: CMOS CHECKSUM ERROR
Tinybox#9112: Defaults loaded |
Alcyone#2233: that is normal message after cmos is cleared
Alcyone#2233: but selecting defaults and then rebooting nothing happens
Tinybox#9112: He's trying rn.
Tinybox#9112: Set it to optimized.
Alcyone#2233: could be mem issue. make sure ram is right and in slots 2+4 for 2 dimm.
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/631197967268970516/video0.mov
Tinybox#9112: @Alcyone What's happening with no jumper:
BigPierogi#3368: did you already try turning on with screwdriver
TheGeekster#8508: if you short the two pins with a screw driver? any life? 🤔
TheGeekster#8508: fuck beat me to it
TheGeekster#8508: *always watching nub*
Tinybox#9112: Yup, screw driver was the first tool used after all
Alcyone#2233: well it turns on with the button after cmos is reset so the swithch is probs working, id try just the pins anyways though
Alcyone#2233: giga can switch bios autoimatically after post failure, but it would attempt to power on
Alcyone#2233: I would assume dead battery or a short, but you said battery has been changed and it looks to be sitting on a box or something |
Tinybox#9112: Alright he said he's just gonna try screw driver again
Tinybox#9112: I FORGOT TO Mention something VERY specific.
Tinybox#9112: !! He just tried it without a jumper
Tinybox#9112: A USB stick he installed glowed for about 2s
Tinybox#9112: If that's helpful, anyway the very specific thing was, the very first time he booted the board, and got to the "please insert os" screen it worked without a jumper.
However he switched it off.
At the PSU, because y know he wanted to check the bios if everything was fine
Tinybox#9112: Anyway, with screw driver.
Tinybox#9112: Nothing
Alcyone#2233: we are certain he is bridging the pw switch and not the pwr led pins correct?
Tinybox#9112: The POWER switch is clearly color coded red
Tinybox#9112: Hold on a sec.
Alcyone#2233: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/631201256433647646/unknown.png
Alcyone#2233: so 3rd and 4th pin from top left is what its plugged into. thats out
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/631201612282593309/Screenshot_20191008-204935.png |
Tinybox#9112: It's hard to get wrong
Alcyone#2233: yee thats right
Tinybox#9112: Sorry this time to lazy to take new pic 😅
Alcyone#2233: im just shotgunning ideas, never seen this issue before
Tinybox#9112: Anyway I just uninstalled the cooler, and cpu I noticed
Tinybox#9112: There is a pin missing.
Tinybox#9112: It seems its a VSS pin
Tinybox#9112: Let's get the good cam
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/631202239763054613/image0-2.png
Tinybox#9112: There
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/631202825019588663/image1.png
Tinybox#9112: LGa 1155 pin out
Tinybox#9112: Top right corner area is the pic
Tinybox#9112: Nevermind it's a blue pin
Tinybox#9112: (right below vss) |
Tinybox#9112: "RSVD"
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/631207038420123659/image0-4.jpg
Tinybox#9112: @Deleted User thanks
Tinybox#9112: Anyway @Alcyone these are the advANCED bios settings
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/631208000031424531/image0-5.jpg
Tinybox#9112: @Deleted User aight
Tinybox#9112: Before we go with a new PSU, I was thinking https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/631208845208846340/image0-6.jpg
Deleted User#0000: Found this kinda funny, one of my clients I'm building for is clearly an expert
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/631242855586725908/20191008_223247.jpg
TheFifthAce#4128: LOL
TheFifthAce#4128: @Deleted User can I post that on reddit :kok:
SuSSudio#2688: :Hahahahaha:
Lady Mipha#0611: :Hahahahaha:
Exomilav#5434: :Hahahahaha:
Exomilav#5434: :Smart: |
Exomilav#5434: imagine i build a PC for someone and they just ask to do that
Exomilav#5434: im like "alr bet, its gonna b 60 bucks tho"
Exomilav#5434: "why"
Exomilav#5434: "cuz i gotta get another kit to OC to 16 GB"
miklos_akos#1999: What in the world
Deleted User#0000: @TheFifthAce sure
Budget#8265: @Tech Helper Eyo lads bit of verification on the mobile side
So I have fixed an issue that appears to plague this era of Samsung mobiles, due to dying memory, because they cant seem to manage having a big OS and a big Recovery at the same time. So is the case dying Memory like suspected, Itd explain the stock OS, and why the phone was old broken
Budget#8265: Those who are technically minded might enjoy the process to get this phone working:
**Fixing the 95p Phone**
1. Cleaning the shit out of it
2. Manage to get it to boot to the standard OS, which will crash during most tasks, and lock up. |
3. Flash Clockwork Recovery Mod 5.X , and get it to boot to it
4. Format and Flash new OS, with Gapps Pico Package
5. Phone attempts to boot, but soon kills OS, and Recovery by 5th attempt
6. Phone will only boot to RAM Dump (Really common issue apparently, even if left stock)
7. Manage to get phone into download mode after a while
8. Finally flash an old old stock firmware, and recovery
7. Boot to Recovery and Wipe all Caches
8. Install aincient CWM and then wipe OS from there
9. Flash a newer CWM as it will preboot to recovery now
10. Flash a diffrent and very lightweight modified OS, with a custom Gapps Package
11. Wipe Cache again
12. Add additional Perms for the OS
13. Boot to Android 4.4.4
14. Phone Performs remarkable well so far
This took a long time and is a common issue I have managed to fix, cause of how much time I Have spent with these terrible phones |
TheGeekster#8508: *buy new phone*
JustinXenyx#8854: generally older budget phones from samsung around 2011-2013 i think suffered from shitty flash
JustinXenyx#8854: 1 of 2 Galaxy Express phones here in my house hold "died" from shitty flash
Budget#8265: Died as in bootloops nad no recovery?
TheGeekster#8508: we made the mistake of buying samsung galaxy y's, so bad
TheGeekster#8508: still work tho
TheGeekster#8508: just, bad
Budget#8265: This is working now
Budget#8265: https://i.imgur.com/WEGUnA6.jpg
Budget#8265: I am attempting to live with it
JustinXenyx#8854: sometimes bootlooping sometimes booting into android @Budget
TheGeekster#8508: get snapchat on it
Budget#8265: Would android Crash cause those are my symptoms
Budget#8265: Snapchat will kill the phone and set it on fire
JustinXenyx#8854: It crashed sometimes, but those were crashes i'd categorize as regular/"normal" crashing |
JustinXenyx#8854: Got worse as it got older tho
Budget#8265: Hmmm fair enough
Budget#8265: I will say that with a fresh and lightweight OS installed it is running okay, even on the internet
Budget#8265: I am quite suprised, but I have assigned new partitions, and forced them to stay in place
Budget#8265: Pretty sure recovery has killed itself already though, but im rooted, so may install recovery to a partition on the SD Card *Cause thats a thing*
TheGeekster#8508: crossy road or bust then?
TheGeekster#8508: give us gaming benchmarks
TheGeekster#8508: (please don't, pleaseeee no gaming benchmarks)
Budget#8265: Oh there will be gaming benchmarks
Budget#8265: Probably only emulation and stuff
TheGeekster#8508: how many segments can you get in snake on a 95p phone?
Budget#8265: Cause otherwise no point, the video is mostly about living with it
Budget#8265: Taking photos of my snake on the 95p Phone
Galilool#3398: ill dislike if it can't run PUBG mobile on highest settings with 60 fps
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/s
TheGeekster#8508: well that doesn't sound iffy 😩
Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/631627109709643826/2012-01-01_00.53.16.jpg
Budget#8265: Real photo test
Budget#8265: https://i.imgur.com/vjAGR0E.jpg
Budget#8265: Haters will say its photoshop
Galilool#3398: where is your snake then?
wapted#6788: tbf took some rlly nice photos with my galaxy s2
Flannel84#2980: Does anyone know if the ATI Firepro W3800 512mb model actually supports directx 11, or if it's a case of while it can, it only does directx 10?
JustinXenyx#8854: W3800?
JustinXenyx#8854: The V3800 is TeraScale 2 based, so it should support DX11
Flannel84#2980: yes sorry, V3800
Flannel84#2980: And thank you @JustinXenyx this means I now can proceed (maybe) with my best worst idea ever |
SuSSudio#2688: TeraScale 2 is also on the HD57/8xx gen, which indeed supports DX11
Flannel84#2980: Perfection
Hustin#6475: Which CPU cooler would you guys recommend for $50? I have the cryorig h5 in mind but I’m not so sure if has the best value for the money
DarknessFalls229#2286: heard that 'the snowman' was pretty good, its like a hyper 212 evo for like 25 bucks
DarknessFalls229#2286: but dont quote me on it
TheFifthAce#4128: @Hustin deepcool neptwin
TheFifthAce#4128: 40$ off amazon for a dual tower
TheFifthAce#4128: keeps my r5 2600 under 55c @ 4.2ghz
TheFifthAce#4128: inside an nzxt s340 elite
JustinXenyx#8854: My personal preference is a thermalright macho (Rev C or Macho Direct), solid thick cooler for under 50 USD
JustinXenyx#8854: The neptwin is also a pretty solid option though
Hustin#6475: Ooh, that's p some nice temps @TheFifthAce!:) thanks for the info haha!
SussyBalls#4615: What would you guys give for a 1070? danish market, no idea if you guys have anything to compare to
SuSSudio#2688: https://wccftech.com/exclusive-next-generation-amd-7nm-mobility-cpu-apu-laptop-price-down-699/
Deleted User#0000: I installed a gt730 into my pc and it no longer boots any idea why? |
Deleted User#0000: The card doesnt have a full pci slot https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/631910381886898206/JPEG_20191010_184528.jpg
Flannel84#2980: Are the bios set to run with integrated graphics?
Deleted User#0000: Well it hits the bios but not past it
Flannel84#2980: so you do get some display from the card
Deleted User#0000: Ye
Flannel84#2980: No old display drivers or anything on the PC?
Deleted User#0000: No drivers
Deleted User#0000: It's a new install
Deleted User#0000: I cant get past this screen https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/631911126145302578/JPEG_20191010_184903.jpg
Flannel84#2980: keyboard not responding either I take it?
Flannel84#2980: And you're using the latest BIOS?
Deleted User#0000: it ticks then I press the esc key
Deleted User#0000: And it lights up when I press the caps locm
Deleted User#0000: Lock*
Deleted User#0000: Then the screen will go black with one flashing bar |
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/631911445424111626/JPEG_20191010_185024.jpg
Flannel84#2980: What's the motherboard and BIOS revision
Deleted User#0000: it's an oem hp board
Deleted User#0000: and idk the bios version, I've never been in it
Flannel84#2980: Take out the card and do whatever you need to access the BIOS and look for the version. Also lookup the motherboard and check for the BIOS versions. If you aren't running the latest, update to the latest then try again.
Flannel84#2980: Though you could just try to clear the CMOS first.
Deleted User#0000: K
Alcyone#2233: I would try cmos reset and see if it boots
Deleted User#0000: It boots with a different gpu
Deleted User#0000: so ima put the gt 730 to one side and test it on another board
Deleted User#0000: Ik it's already a really picky board so it might just not like it
Deleted User#0000: Is it safe to format an ssd?
Galilool#3398: i know nothing that would speak against it
Deleted User#0000: because idk if it has certain parts which stop it from being completely formatted
Deleted User#0000: because it has a sector on it aswell and idk whether or not to wipe that aswell |
Galilool#3398: do you want it to be completely formatted?
Deleted User#0000: Ye
Deleted User#0000: I wanna do a complete reinstall of everything
Galilool#3398: crucial says it's safe
Deleted User#0000: it's a kingston ssd but I would guess there is no difference
Galilool#3398: as i said, i see nothing that would speak against it
TheGeekster#8508: don't do a full format, just do a quick format @Deleted User
Deleted User#0000: @TheGeekster a bit late tbh
Deleted User#0000: I formatted it with the windows installer
TheGeekster#8508: ah fair enough, you won't have damaged it, just wrote more than necessary
TheGeekster#8508: oh nah that's fine then
Deleted User#0000: Oh okay aha
Deleted User#0000: You got me worried then aha
TheGeekster#8508: windows installer doesn't do full formats, full formats over-write every sector on the drive, which can wear SSD's more than necessary, quick formats just remove the partition table
Deleted User#0000: ah okay |
Deleted User#0000: ye I only really use windows installer to format anyways
Rysing Dragoon#5628: I haven't brought this up for a while, but given that I'm really stubborn, I wish to OC both my CPU and my RAM
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Last time I tried it, someone told me to look for any BIOS updates via flash drive
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Anyone know how to do that?
Alcyone#2233: go to the mfg site for the motherboard. DL the latest non beta bios. put it on the root of a usb drive, enter bios and use the flash utility.
Dont power off or touch it until it boots on its own once the flash process has started
Rysing Dragoon#5628: This works for most B450 UEFIs, right?
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Cause I have the Pro4 UEFI
Alcyone#2233: check the manual, it should have a section on biuos updates, but its worked the same since I started building gaming pcs in 2011
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Ah, gotcha
Exomilav#5434: is the Gigabyte GA-K8N PRO-SLI any good
and is it from 2005
Exomilav#5434: have a feeling it wont oc for shit because no VRM heatsink
Exomilav#5434: :Oof: |
Exomilav#5434: fuck it, are all these mobos from 2005 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/632031423716392981/opera_7dl3XDEbBE.png
SussyBalls#4615: bruh anyone remember those sata adapters and 1 to 5 fan adapters i cancelled since it said they'd never left china after 50-60 days or so, it just arrived today lmao
SussyBalls#4615: free adapter gang
SussyBalls#4615: it was probably just sitting in customs or something
thatubuntuguy#5914: How long did you have to wait
SussyBalls#4615: long enough for me to forget about it for a good month or so
SussyBalls#4615: ordered it 6th of august lmao
Exomilav#5434: Answer me
Exomilav#5434: Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Exomilav#5434: :FightMe:
JustinXenyx#8854: What do you want an answer too lol @Exomilav
Exomilav#5434: Scroll up
Exomilav#5434: Poopyhead
JustinXenyx#8854: That's what i'm talking about
JustinXenyx#8854: There's no clear question or thing to answer |
MythologicalZ#3752: Look up their launch dates lol
MythologicalZ#3752: Literally a pinned message is to Google first
Exomilav#5434: :Hahahahaha:
Exomilav#5434: Fe
Exomilav#5434: :FeelsRetardedMan:
Exomilav#5434: Will try
Tinybox#9112: Well, I guess, ill just say this. Sorry for being here sooooooooo mannyy times.
Well, I kinda wanna give one of these USB wifi adapter a try again <I feel like replacing the antennas on my AC750 wouldn't help me, because it wouldn't explain why 5G wifi only exists every 3 days or so, or just varies a lot, and is randomly avaliable ON THIS specific ADAPTER, got a feeling something is wrong with a chip on the card....
Anyway,
Trying to decide between these two boys;
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07P681N66
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01MY83NET
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07M69276N
So I'm trying to decide between those 3.
I feel like the T3U could be the worst choice -ever- simply because of it's 4CM size, making it the smallest not only that it's the fastest, plus they are reviews that note it gets noticeably hot, and sometimes cuts out connection +does the same thing my overheating shit adapter does, =When it overheats, gotta plug it out. But at the same time does reports are coming from people with wifi faster than my 100 down and 130 upload. (People with around 170-200 seem to mostly mention this) |
For the T2U, it seems to be the same, guy with omega internet connection, in a review reports strong speed drops (170>54) on 2.4ghz however.
The Intertech is smaller than the T2U, but uses the same chip...sooo you know, it's also the cheapest.
In terms of drivers, all seem to be pretty recent for all of them..
**Which one would you choose?**
And yea I kinda can't really wait anymore 😅 can't play online games without interruption...however, I could skip on buying a cooler for my 2500k (currently clocked at @4.2 because of my TX3)/future R5 chip...then I could afford an Archer T4e
TheFifthAce#4128: usb wifi is SHIT
TheFifthAce#4128: :Mad:
TheFifthAce#4128: polling rates are gay and cause issue with high refresh gaming
TheFifthAce#4128: pcie is objectively better in every way
Tinybox#9112: Well then you think I should skip on buying a cooler?
TheFifthAce#4128: also all of those have tiny af surface area and would throttle
TheFifthAce#4128: I wouldn't pick any of them
TheFifthAce#4128: get a pcie dual band
Tinybox#9112: alright
Tinybox#9112: Well Abstract, do you think buying one of those |
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07FDZDKMK
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07FDTY98D
And then getting one of those, M.2 wifi >PCIe Antenna adapter thing.
Would be a good option?
Tinybox#9112: I decided to do some research, I'm guessing I can't use the 9560 in all systems because of this "cnvi" thing.
Tinybox#9112: alright I think I made a choice.
https://www.amazon.de/RETYLY-Schlüssel-Drahtlos-Unterstützung-Netzwerk-Schwarz/dp/B07W8FPD1T
and this
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07FDTY98D
Tinybox#9112: Will cost me 22 euros in total.
Tinybox#9112: Which will leave 8 euros for a cooler or anything else
Tinybox#9112: ah will be buying both ***Not directly from amazon***
Just "on" amazon.
Tinybox#9112: So I hope all works fine, returns might get yiffy.
Tinybox#9112: +I found the cooler ill go with. |
Seems to have standard AMD mounting, but using INTEL adapter, to work on intel mobos, so I might be able to use it on AM4 when the time comes.
Tinybox#9112: https://www.amazon.de/Acouto-Kühler-Lüfter-Kühlkörper-Intel-default/dp/B07T19CTZL
Tinybox#9112: It seems to weigh more and has one more heat pipe, sooo mayybee it will be fine?
Tinybox#9112: total is 35 euros, meh I can live with that haul :GWmythsBlobPresent:
Tinybox#9112: Although perhaps it isn't worth it to go out any buy a cooler, after all, it's probably better to get something that is more widely compatible.
TheFifthAce#4128: just get a regular pcie one
TheFifthAce#4128: why get an adapter
Tinybox#9112: @TheFifthAce cheaper, and I know that these INTEL ones are really good, plus they deliver epic speeds.
Tinybox#9112: It's a work around.
Tinybox#9112: But should be alright.
TheFifthAce#4128: hoes mad
Tinybox#9112: plus blutooth
Tinybox#9112: :GWlulurdMegaLul:
Rysing Dragoon#5628: is it sad that the only kind of access to wifi for me is USB?
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Cause that came with the system |
TheFifthAce#4128: gay
Lady Mipha#0611: gay
TheFifthAce#4128: stock the 4570 is ~15% faster single core
TheFifthAce#4128: ...haswell has 15% better IPC than sandy bridge, and it clocks about the same speed
TheFifthAce#4128: unless you have an overclocking motherboard and a decent cooler, the 4570 is a better option
Lady Mipha#0611: ^
TheFifthAce#4128: + it has a better upgrade path
TheFifthAce#4128: technically
TheFifthAce#4128: about 25% difference there according to that chart https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/632414684103835648/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: userbenchmark takes overclocking into account lol
TheFifthAce#4128: like it averages everything together
TheFifthAce#4128: stock, the 4570 should win
TheFifthAce#4128: 2500k clocks 100mhz higher but the 4570 has a two generation advantage
Tinybox#9112: Trying to decide between these two M.2 Wifi modules, so Ill be using an M.2 >PCI-e adapter for these
https://www.amazon.de/Mavis-Laven-WLAN-Netzwerkkarte-Bluetooth-Netzwerkserver-Adapterkarte-default/dp/B07V3DC2YD |
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07FDTY98D
The AX200NGW is omega OP right and would last me longer?
But is it worth the extra shipping time, basically is wifi 6 worth waiting longer for?
Tinybox#9112: Ill be paying 2 euros more for shipping on the 9xxx one, and it would be shipped directly from amazon, so it's more than likely going to arrive before the M.2 Adapter.
JustinXenyx#8854: Why would you use a M.2 wifi module? That makes no sense
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx It's cheaper, and "faster".
JustinXenyx#8854: Ok, how is it going to be faster?
Tinybox#9112: Well at least "rated" speeds.
Tinybox#9112: VS something I can get on the market.
Tinybox#9112: For example I'd need to pay 30 euros for a TP-LINK T4e
Tinybox#9112: AC1200,
Tinybox#9112: Which isn't only out of the tight budget, but is "slower".
Tinybox#9112: This guy here,
Tinybox#9112: https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/download/archer-t4e/
JustinXenyx#8854: You can get a Archer T6E for 30€ aswell |
Tinybox#9112: Archer TE?
Tinybox#9112: Yea but the T6e has older drivers 🤔
And seems to have worse reviews.
Tinybox#9112: I feel like the M.2 wifi adapter will just last me longer, and work better, and it's cheaper..
Plus it's a module from Intel, at least in my experience intel seems to be quite good on drivers.
JustinXenyx#8854: Also, i still don't get how the M.2 wifi adapter is going to be faster
Tinybox#9112: I mean just the rated speeds.
JustinXenyx#8854: Which rated speeds?
Tinybox#9112: What you get when you search up the specs I mean.
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/632560819850313749/unknown.png
Tinybox#9112: Archer "T6e" ^
Tinybox#9112: Intel 9260 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/632560933033476126/unknown.png
Tinybox#9112: INTEL AX200 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/632561085555146782/unknown.png
Tinybox#9112: Of course I know ill never reach those speeds even if I really wanted to.
But I think I can count that as an advantage? |
Tinybox#9112: Perhaps the blutooth, but I don't really need that either, so the real thing for me is just getitng it for cheaper, with the few bonuses.
Tinybox#9112: But, you seem really bothered about this lil decision.
Is there any disadvantage to going down that route? @JustinXenyx
JustinXenyx#8854: If i were to sum up the prices of the wifi card, m.2 adapter and m.2 wifi card we'd land at around the same price as a regular PCIe card (if not more expensive) with some inconveniences added
Tinybox#9112: I already summed it up, and found an adapter that I find good.
It ended up being being a good 25 euros, after shipping
JustinXenyx#8854: Hold up, WHAT?
Tinybox#9112: yea
JustinXenyx#8854: 25 euros for the adapter or for the total?
Tinybox#9112: total
Tinybox#9112: it took a while to find the stuff
Tinybox#9112: but it went well
JustinXenyx#8854: Can you link me the adapter?
JustinXenyx#8854: Because my guess is that it's just a regular PCIe X1 to M.2 adapter, which results in those wifi cards getting bottlenecked because they're usually X2 cards
Tinybox#9112: You are correct |
Tinybox#9112: It's an X1 card
Tinybox#9112: With a USB connector for the blutooth
JustinXenyx#8854: So, we're at the same speeds as a regular X1 card with some inconveniences added, nice
Tinybox#9112: What type of inconveniences?
Tinybox#9112: Besides the extra install time?
JustinXenyx#8854: How are you going to install the antennas?
Tinybox#9112: How you'd usually install antennas
Tinybox#9112: Like your standard WIFI CARD
Tinybox#9112: you spin them onto the connector
Tinybox#9112: "screw them on".
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/632563675097464842/unknown.png
JustinXenyx#8854: oh wtf
Tinybox#9112: It's nothing special
JustinXenyx#8854: I thought of a different adapter then
Tinybox#9112: oh |
Tinybox#9112: I think I know what you were thinking of
Tinybox#9112: But this is the adapter I choose
Tinybox#9112: For maximum convenience
Tinybox#9112: it took ages to find
Tinybox#9112: took ages to find reviews as well
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx Anyway
Tinybox#9112: Should I choose the AX200?
Tinybox#9112: or 9260
JustinXenyx#8854: I'd choose the one that's cheaper, if they're the same price flip a coin lol
Tinybox#9112: the ax200 is more expensive by 1 euro and 50 cents if I want it to ship in less than 2 weeks.
Tinybox#9112: But it suports wifi 6
Tinybox#9112: THe 9260 however just arrives earlier, and is directly from amazon
JustinXenyx#8854: I'd probably dig the AX200 then, because wifi 6 is a major convenience thing and if you have it now you won't need to upgrade later on
Tinybox#9112: pay extra for faster shipping?
Tinybox#9112: (Standard: |
October 23rd-november 12th, for it to be same price/cost slightly less)
Tinybox#9112: Faster shipping: October 18th-22nd.
BigPierogi#3368: is your pc back facing away from the router
BigPierogi#3368: or toward
Tinybox#9112: Toward
BigPierogi#3368: becuase you gotta remeber that too
BigPierogi#3368: ok
BigPierogi#3368: then thats good
BigPierogi#3368: beucase if it was facing away
BigPierogi#3368: then speeds wouldnt be that good
BigPierogi#3368: as good*
JustinXenyx#8854: I'd pay the 1.50€ for faster shipping becasue in the end it's not gonna be that much of a difference
Tinybox#9112: alright thanks
Tinybox#9112: I hope these Antennas are gonna be good, if not, they are the same standard as my AC750.
Tinybox#9112: Ill just switch it out. |
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/632572481588166666/JPEG_20191012_143317.jpg
Deleted User#0000: hard drive cooler aha
TheFifthAce#4128: hot ngl
Deleted User#0000: thermal take
Deleted User#0000: Dont see that brand much in England
SuSSudio#2688: nice
Deleted User#0000: Also are older HP pavilions worth anything on the used market?
Deleted User#0000: It's in good condition but idk weather to scrap it out or not
Deleted User#0000: it's running xp so idk
TheFifthAce#4128: depends on specs
TheFifthAce#4128: if its core i series or newer sure
TheFifthAce#4128: anything older is usually ehh
Deleted User#0000: well it's running xp so I thought there might have been like a little market for systems like that but idk
SuSSudio#2688: pentium m huh
SuSSudio#2688: or core solo/duo |
Deleted User#0000: celero
Deleted User#0000: celeron
TheFifthAce#4128: literal ewaste
Deleted User#0000: eeee
Deleted User#0000: k ima scrap it for e waste anyways
SussyBalls#4615: or you could get 2 shitty harddrives and make a dualboot win 98 + xp retro pc, people sometimes do pay for that if it's already set up
IRON MAIDEN#4184: iv got a P2 300mhz PC runnin win 98SE for my old games its great
IRON MAIDEN#4184: idk how to make a dual boot or i would on one of my XP machines
IRON MAIDEN#4184: (im dumb)
JustinXenyx#8854: Near frankfurt is an exaggeration
JustinXenyx#8854: But 40€ for 16GB DDR4 sounds like a killer deal ngl
Jam#0384: ok so bruh moment my core 2 duo e8400 may be dead
Jam#0384: that sucks
Jam#0384: so i guess I'll just overclock my e6600
Jam#0384: :T |
IRON MAIDEN#4184: ouch that really do suck
IRON MAIDEN#4184: looks like my core 2 runnin without proper cooling outlived urs with it
IRON MAIDEN#4184: xD
Jam#0384: it wouldnt boot with the e8400
Jam#0384: the e8400 wasnt originally mine
IRON MAIDEN#4184: o ok
Jam#0384: well at least the board worth more than the e8400 works
IRON MAIDEN#4184: my board to replace cost like 2x what i bought the whole PC for
IRON MAIDEN#4184: kinda sad
IRON MAIDEN#4184: so if board dies again ill do BTX to ATX
DarknessFalls229#2286: At least it aint some rare 100$ c2x
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Jam you think that ypur board has an older revision that dont support it?
Jam#0384: It was runnin the e8400 in the board when i got it
Jam#0384: and it's g41 so it should support from the start
Jam#0384: But it's fine I'll just use my e6600 until I buy a C2X or C2Q |
DarknessFalls229#2286: Just buy a q6600 and oc it to 3ghz
DarknessFalls229#2286: Its like 10$
Tinybox#9112: R.I.P
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx I was to slow and the seller that had fast shipping sold out ):
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/632631870269685790/unknown.png
Tinybox#9112: r.i.p me
Tinybox#9112: well there seems to be a bit of money left
Tinybox#9112: I guess ill spend that money on a mini heatsink + fan
Jam#0384: yeah but a C2X 6800 is like $20
Jam#0384: Would be nice to have and it's not much more money
Jam#0384: @DarknessFalls229
DarknessFalls229#2286: really?
DarknessFalls229#2286: thats pretty good
DarknessFalls229#2286: i barely see QXs
Jam#0384: I'll be able to run it with my board |
Jam#0384: But overclocking is out of the question
Tinybox#9112: There you go placed my order
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/632650687867781120/unknown.png
Tinybox#9112: 6 heatsinks, and a wifi adapter "set", all for an epic 24,80 euros, I spent 2,60 for the heatsinks incase anybody is interested.
Tinybox#9112: Ill use one of those heatsinks to restore the shitty wifi adapter back to its glory, the others ones will come in handy for GPUs and other stuff, and of course one for the wifi card
Tinybox#9112: also I realized that the adapter I'm buying seems to have two 6 DBi Antennas
Tinybox#9112: Quite happy, I spent 10 euros less, vs the next wifi solution with same speed
Exomilav#5434: any memes here? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/632664293615206410/opera_yJqhEdFwjV.png
Jam#0384: those 939 boards are nice
Alcyone#2233: they all look like nforce boards. get one with the best chipset cooler
Jam#0384: Not 100% on the gigabytes though
Jam#0384: The ASUS ones look good
Jam#0384: Specifically the one which uses copper heatsinks
Alcyone#2233: Id get abit because defunct company retro is always cool. or the asus deluxe since it has bare copper cooling.
Jam#0384: ^ |
Jam#0384: I agree
Jam#0384: ABit is also pretty reliable in general
Exomilav#5434: the gigabyte one has no VRM cooling
Exomilav#5434: :Hahahahaha:
Jam#0384: but I think the ASUS board is probably the best bet here
Jam#0384: the Deluxe
Alcyone#2233: yeah abit held some of the first major oc competitions. most their high end stuff is top notch
Jam#0384: gigabyte has never really made a ton of great boards until recently
Jam#0384: They have a few good ones now
Exomilav#5434: X570
Jam#0384: and Z390
Alcyone#2233: they did make the fastest super 7mobo, most of the records on hwbot are using it
Jam#0384: yeah I just mean in general
Exomilav#5434: also the ABit one doesnt have the SLI bridge key
Jam#0384: They do have some good ones |
Exomilav#5434: :Xdxdxd:
Jam#0384: My only S939 uses Agp
Jam#0384: Which I like
Exomilav#5434: might go for the premium
Jam#0384: But I want a PCIe one too at some point, just not a super high priority
Tinybox#9112: gigabyte pretty much dominate X570
Jam#0384: Don't get the premium
Tinybox#9112: here
Jam#0384: get the Deluxe
Jam#0384: or the ABIT
Tinybox#9112: Here, MSI and Asrock dominate AM4 (X470 and under)
Tinybox#9112: X570 pretty much owned by gigabyte.
Alcyone#2233: some msi b450 are really good, no asrock b450 is very good
Tinybox#9112: yea
Jam#0384: ASRock has some nice X370 boards |
Tinybox#9112: MSI dominates this market with their tomahawk and pro carbon.
Alcyone#2233: if steel legend had a better vrm it would have been really nice
Tinybox#9112: In terms of B series
Tinybox#9112: yea
Tinybox#9112: Steel legend dissapointed me big time
Jam#0384: MSI has shit tier X570 apparently
Alcyone#2233: its the only one with LLC and SOC voltage in bios
Tinybox#9112: yea
Tinybox#9112: 🙏
Jam#0384: I like ASRock stuff but I also like value so
Jam#0384: :Hahahahaha:
Tinybox#9112: Asrock got all the value with PRO4
Alcyone#2233: I like asrock 1155 boards, they are one of the few that got proper w10 drivers
Tinybox#9112: B450 gaming k4 for just very litle more.
Jam#0384: True but with modern hardware I'm not really targeting midrange right now |
Alcyone#2233: asrock b450 is good if you dont want to get the max out of your cpu and mems
Alcyone#2233: doubled 3 phase is strong enough not to overheat with an 8 core, and you can oc a bit but droop will limit the voltage
Jam#0384: Right now im using 775 stuff as meme, but Crysis and Just Cause and everything from the era pretty much runs flawlessly
Jam#0384: or close to it
Tinybox#9112: @Alcyone yea, but they are also very shit LGA 1155 Boards from asrock.
my friend got himself a Z68 PRO3 GEN3.
I got the Z68 PRO3.
His gen3, literally has a cut down BIOS in overclocking options..., like LLC is missing, fixed voltage is missing, and A LOT MORE. (only offset and auto)
Jam#0384: I can max out everything from the time except Crysis which runs at high
JustinXenyx#8854: It's not doubled @Alcyone
Alcyone#2233: it is
Jam#0384: I'm testing BF2 and Fable TLC now
Tinybox#9112: felt dissapointed to realize that they gutted the bios on the newer version
JustinXenyx#8854: hell no it ain't
JustinXenyx#8854: It's just a overblown 3 phase |
JustinXenyx#8854: @TheFifthAce can confirm
TheFifthAce#4128: hi
TheFifthAce#4128: what is it
JustinXenyx#8854: B450M Pro4 or generally asrocks b450 boards
Tinybox#9112: the asrock pro3 is an overblown 3 phase, I think justin is right.
TheFifthAce#4128: its not doubled
TheFifthAce#4128: its just fat
Tinybox#9112: "10 phase" design :Thonking:
Alcyone#2233: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/632666889608495128/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: they arent proper doubled components
Alcyone#2233: its 6 power stages driven by a 3 phase controller with doublers
Tinybox#9112: But are those doublers doubling?
TheFifthAce#4128: the doubled doubles doubling doublers?
Alcyone#2233: they double the pwm signals from the voltage controller to the mosfets
Alcyone#2233: 3 signals go in, 6 signals come out |
JustinXenyx#8854: If they were doubled, i'd be sure that we'd have documentation of which doublers are being used
TheFifthAce#4128: still homo to not have LLC or SOC
TheFifthAce#4128: :kok:
Alcyone#2233: bz might have a mobo breakdown of it, it is surely a doubled 3 phase vrm
TheFifthAce#4128: its a homo phase vrm
JustinXenyx#8854: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzRG_LjUl8Q
JustinXenyx#8854: It isn't doubled
Tinybox#9112: oh by the way justin, I guess I ordered all my stuff,
The wifi adapter set cost me a total of 22,10 euros however I spent 2,60 in those heatsinks (six, prob coulda gotten a set) you see up there, but that's just for other stuff, might use one, on the adapter if it needs it
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/632667634588188682/unknown.png
Tinybox#9112: Got an Intel AX200 (the one with vPRO)
Alcyone#2233: oh so its just parallel, worse than I thought, straight 3 phase myb
JustinXenyx#8854: Not too bad then @Tinybox
Tinybox#9112: I feel like refunding dem heatsinks, but hey, it's not worth it to look for a bigger pack, plus they are gonna arrive way faster. :GWcmeisterPeepoShrug:
Tinybox#9112: although those rated ~2.5GB/s |
I wonder when the day will come, when ill reach that speed :GWlulurdMegaLul:
Tinybox#9112: Plus I found out that the adapter uses 6DBi Antennas
Tinybox#9112: @Alcyone the thing that makes the pro4 so good is actually the cooling though
Alcyone#2233: i wouldnt say so good and pro4 in the same sentence, but okay
Tinybox#9112: alright it's the value
Alcyone#2233: it is good value for an average user
Tinybox#9112: I'd say if you are rocking a six core, it's a great value board
Alcyone#2233: if you care about oc, the mid range msi b450s have much better options though
Alcyone#2233: those can set manual/override vcore, have soc voltage control, LLC settings and bios flashback + better mem support
Alcyone#2233: the lower end giga, gaming 3 and below have vcore and soc, but offset only because of the voltage controller used. forget if they have llc or not
Alcyone#2233: Asus are usually overpriced and have lower tier components than the competition in their price brackets, but usually have all the oc options if its marketed as a "gaming" motherboard
Exomilav#5434: the gigabyte board has no VRM heatsink, the ABit has no SLI bridge key for some reason, that one Deluxe listing is super expensive (tho i found one from the UK for way cheaper), MSi is just MSi, and the Premium is pretty epic
Exomilav#5434: wait no i didnt find a cheaper deluxe listing
Exomilav#5434: :Hahahahaha:
Exomilav#5434: found a more expensive premium listing from the UK with all the accessories i hope |
Exomilav#5434: soooo its either the premium and OCing or the Gigabyte but no OC
Exomilav#5434: hmmmmmmm
TheFifthAce#4128: @Alcyone ye its just a fat 3 phase lo
Alcyone#2233: obese 3 phase
JustinXenyx#8854: Don't think i've seen them yet
TheFifthAce#4128: o 🅱 e s e
JustinXenyx#8854: When i use Kleinanzeigen i search locally, so that's probably why i haven't seen that lol
Alcyone#2233: those look like dell or hp oem 1070s
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah, i've seen that cooler on some OEM 1070s
Alcyone#2233: cost optimized af, you would need an accelero to get regular aib performance
Alcyone#2233: maybe crossflash the bios if it has some gimped power limit to try and make the shit cooling work better
SussyBalls#4615: it's the hp one, the don't touch thingy on the blower is there because they know those who buy it are already retarded:Hahahahaha:
Alcyone#2233: its not just for the fan, It is a warning to drop the card and leave it where it lies
SussyBalls#4615: wtf apparently this is a hp gtx 1080
not too bad of a design https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/632694723982655498/5be6ed9ccae9eb35052aa4c5.png |
SussyBalls#4615: reminds me of something I'd see on an older radeon
SussyBalls#4615: but than the hp 1080ti becomes a shitty blower again https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/632695198945902602/s-l640.png
tdp2612#3835: eh i mean it looks cool though
tdp2612#3835: looks substantial
JustinXenyx#8854: I think they have multiple card variants tbh
JustinXenyx#8854: The blowers for their smaller rigs and the good coolers for the bigger rigs
Alcyone#2233: prob some asian market model/mfg like elsa https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/632696092483649574/imgfilter.png
SussyBalls#4615: maybe, but looks nice regardless
russ_the_b#5525: that looks like a fire
russ_the_b#5525: literal flames rn
TheFifthAce#4128: looks like anger
SussyBalls#4615: >pc on
>fire extinguisher(s) ready
its gaming time
russ_the_b#5525: 420 it is |
russ_the_b#5525: blaze it your pc will
TheFifthAce#4128: 15 fucking amps on the 12v but 25a on the 3.3
TheFifthAce#4128: that is a genuine bomb
TheFifthAce#4128: its a fuckin huntkey PSU that, by review, can deliver only fucking 180w despite being a "420w psu"
TheFifthAce#4128: LC power is a legit brand but their psus are shit
TheFifthAce#4128: they're almost all group regulated garbage
JustinXenyx#8854: I'd trash it
JustinXenyx#8854: Seen many of those dead, no one wants em
TheFifthAce#4128: you should legitimately put it in a vault under 6 feet of solid steel
Galilool#3398: *spotted the bomb carrier*
Galilool#3398: delivering it to the customer ->*go go go go go it's going to blow up!*
TheFifthAce#4128: when a 420w psu has a rated max wattage of 180w
TheFifthAce#4128: thats fucking scary mode
TheFifthAce#4128: I bet it delivers 90w while consuming like 500w
JustinXenyx#8854: I do have to say though, the ITX boards that do exist are pretty high quality |
JustinXenyx#8854: They just haven't made any midrange ITX boards yet
JustinXenyx#8854: Every week, so quite frequently
TheFifthAce#4128: I've built over 300 pcs
TheFifthAce#4128: :kok:
TheFifthAce#4128: used locally or donated
JustinXenyx#8854: Both, depending on what i need really
JustinXenyx#8854: But buying used cases from eBay etc sucks massive magnum dong
Tinybox#9112: ***did I hear germany***?
Tinybox#9112: oi oi fellow german
Tinybox#9112: was geht ab
Tinybox#9112: Alles klar bei dir?
Tinybox#9112: aight
Tinybox#9112: Well whatcha need
Tinybox#9112: I'm quite familiar with the german market
TheFifthAce#4128: even tho he sucks at it and asks questions constantly |
TheFifthAce#4128: :fedorathonkk:
Tinybox#9112: @TheFifthAce I ask constantly because I like to confirm.
TheFifthAce#4128: kok
Tinybox#9112: Perhaps I do seem like a total noob :Hahahahaha:
But I'm not as much of a noob like I seem...just tend to be kinda unsure sometimes.
JustinXenyx#8854: I've used this case often lately for more budget oriented builds: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B015KFXMC2/
Tinybox#9112: ***however I'm still a noob when it comes to stuff like PSUs***
And windows troubleshooting sometimes, however I do know a thing or two :GWmythsBlobPresent:
Tinybox#9112: @Deleted User
Tinybox#9112: If you want to buy a case in germany.
Tinybox#9112: I suggest you use germany version of pcpartpicker, they got every damn case in germany basically, and they spec'ed them all out, all in a convenient package for you to look through
Tinybox#9112: https://geizhals.de
JustinXenyx#8854: that's not the german version of pcpartpicker
JustinXenyx#8854: de.pcpartpicker.com is
Tinybox#9112: pcpartpicker is pretty shit, in terms of finding parts in germany. |
But hey that compatability checker is supreme.
Tinybox#9112: geizhals just got a wider range of stuff.
Tinybox#9112: "specs?"
Tinybox#9112: My dude.
Tinybox#9112: Ich meine eher, "warum erwähnst du jetzt" specs :GWmemetownKappaChino:
Aber okay.
Anyway back to englesh.
I think the reason why people prefer pcpartpicker over geizhals is due to the compatability checker.
Tinybox#9112: In terms of options and filters, geizhals and pcpartpicker are nearly identical imo
Galilool#3398: DEUTSCHE GENOSSEN?
Tinybox#9112: ja
Tinybox#9112: https://geizhals.de/?cat=gehatx&xf=8659_mit&asuch=&bpmin=&bpmax=33&v=e&hloc=de&filter=aktualisieren&plz=&dist=&sort=t
Tinybox#9112: here's a link
Tinybox#9112: with the filter applied (max 33 euros)
Tinybox#9112: (and window) |
Galilool#3398: nein
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/632709798424739873/iu.png
Tinybox#9112: legend says gali died.
JustinXenyx#8854: I think my answer got lost/wasnt read so i'll repost: Right now i'm using this case for some budget builds https://www.amazon.de/dp/B015KFXMC2/
Tinybox#9112: ye like I said geizhals got a greeat range
Tinybox#9112: just to show you the difference
Tinybox#9112: @Deleted User
Tinybox#9112: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/products/case/#X=0,3480&B=2,5,3,4
Tinybox#9112: this is pcpartpicker with the same filters
Tinybox#9112: It's absurd compared to geizhals range.
Tinybox#9112: yea
Tinybox#9112: yea, IT SURE DOEs
Tinybox#9112: that's why, the germans real "pc part picker" is geizhals.
Tinybox#9112: no question
Galilool#3398: rumors about my death were greatly exxagerated |
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx yea that case aint bad
TheFifthAce#4128: tomorrow
Tinybox#9112: But how is it airflow wise?
Tinybox#9112: justin?
Tinybox#9112: that case.
Tinybox#9112: it looks good because of the mesh at front? but is out of the box airflow any good?
Galilool#3398: case?
fractal design focus g.
Galilool#3398: period
BigPierogi#3368: i have one
Galilool#3398: and?
Galilool#3398: how is it?
BigPierogi#3368: pretty good
BigPierogi#3368: a lot of mesh |
BigPierogi#3368: as the name implies
BigPierogi#3368: no
BigPierogi#3368: i actually use it
BigPierogi#3368: its not yikes
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/632711167713869824/unknown.png
Tinybox#9112: also heres a tip no, when browsing geizhals
Tinybox#9112: always check "besonderheiten"
BigPierogi#3368: @Deleted User what do you mean
Tinybox#9112: they tend to put quite a few things there, that I think should be seperate :Oof:
BigPierogi#3368: people still use them
JustinXenyx#8854: @Tinybox The airflow seems alright from what i've tested, but i'd say that blue fan is a bit weak IMO
BigPierogi#3368: like me
TheFifthAce#4128: cum
BigPierogi#3368: also most cases dont have them
BigPierogi#3368: ok |
BigPierogi#3368: im gonna pretend like i understand you
Tinybox#9112: damn that sucks but for 30 euros, still can't complain that much.
Tinybox#9112: At least you're getting a decent looking case, (if you wanted no window)
Tinybox#9112: But personally I woulda probably bought this ehre
Tinybox#9112: https://geizhals.de/antec-nx100-schwarz-0-761345-80022-8-a1964742.html?hloc=de
BigPierogi#3368: what case
Tinybox#9112: Not because of airflow
Tinybox#9112: because of the looks
Tinybox#9112: :Hahahahaha:
JustinXenyx#8854: the fan @Deleted User
Tinybox#9112: yea but it's sufficent right?
JustinXenyx#8854: I usually just chuck some 3€ arctics in to help with airflow
Tinybox#9112: yea arctic f12s and p12s got epic value.
Tinybox#9112: @Deleted User you want your components to live long right?
Galilool#3398: i have three f12s |
Tinybox#9112: if, you should probably care about airflow
Tinybox#9112: tbh no, you should spend 2 euros more and get a case with a glas window
Tinybox#9112: I SAID NO BECAUSE NO IS YOUR DISC NAME
Tinybox#9112: damn it
Tinybox#9112: yea raise the bar to 35 euros though intead of 33 if you can
Tinybox#9112: btw here's an epic tip
Tinybox#9112: when you are looking for shit on the german market
Tinybox#9112: always go to mindfactory and check mindstar.
Tinybox#9112: (Mindfactory is basically one of the biggest electronic "stores" next to amazon) in germany
Tinybox#9112: yeet
Alcyone#2233: if youre not getting a glass window case, get a no window case. acrylic will look like shit within a year
BigPierogi#3368: aka dusty af
Alcyone#2233: it will get little microscratches just from handling it and wiping it down, and yes after a while the plastic gets hazy and theres no real way to fix that aside from polishing it like some old car headlights
BigPierogi#3368: i have acrylic
BigPierogi#3368: its clean for now |
BigPierogi#3368: but id have to wait a few motnhs
Alcyone#2233: I had a few back when it was the only thing you could get
Alcyone#2233: maybe modern ones are better but I would avoid it if possible
BigPierogi#3368: i think its gotten better
JustinXenyx#8854: Also: If you're clumsy, don't get a tempered glass case. That shit shatters easily and if you're lucky enough the shards spread out so much that there are shards in places you can't get them out of
BigPierogi#3368: ive had one since july
BigPierogi#3368: no micro scratches yet
Alcyone#2233: i think you would have to be especuially heavy handed to break the glass panel, or drop it on a hard surface.I can knock on mine like its a front door to a house
BigPierogi#3368: tempered glass is fragile
BigPierogi#3368: so like
BigPierogi#3368: if you lean it on something
BigPierogi#3368: and it falls on the floor
BigPierogi#3368: it might crack
BigPierogi#3368: or shatter
Alcyone#2233: not especially so thats what car windows are made out of |
BigPierogi#3368: well
BigPierogi#3368: depends
Alcyone#2233: it breaks into tiny cubes
BigPierogi#3368: some are thickers than others
Alcyone#2233: it will make a mess when it breaks though, turns into a pile of pebbles https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/632715282259116033/shattered-tempered-glass-CTWKJ3.png
BigPierogi#3368: well duh
BigPierogi#3368: its glass
Alcyone#2233: if the glass isnt tempered it can fuck you up when it breaks, like standard home windows
BigPierogi#3368: either way
BigPierogi#3368: if you break galss
BigPierogi#3368: your fucked
Alcyone#2233: not really, tempered glass isnt that sharp and the pieces are tiny
BigPierogi#3368: yes
Alcyone#2233: regular glass will cut your ass to the bone https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/632716175234564096/D9_33_664_1200.png
BigPierogi#3368: but cleaning can be a bitch |
BigPierogi#3368: especially if you somehow break it in carpet
Alcyone#2233: if youre handy and it was dirt cheap you could get plexi, trim it and drill 4 holes for a repair
TheFifthAce#4128: do solid titanium
Alcyone#2233: giant heatsink, goes all the way to the socket and screws to the case for mount
TheFifthAce#4128: takes like 5 minutes, 5$ and a trip to the hardware store
Alcyone#2233: I gotta get ready for big dum work
Alcyone#2233: catch you budgets later
Exomilav#5434: https://www.ebay.com/itm/163786267926
Exomilav#5434: this one is nice for 2005 build but has bulging capactiors
Exomilav#5434: should i be worried?
BigPierogi#3368: just make the place where the glass is broken a mega heatsink
BigPierogi#3368: like
BigPierogi#3368: big ass piece of alimunim
BigPierogi#3368: and like 20 heat pipes
BigPierogi#3368: for cpu and gpu |
BigPierogi#3368: oc to 5ghz on both
BigPierogi#3368: and boom
TheFifthAce#4128: hes a stinky man
Exomilav#5434: lol
TheFifthAce#4128: he stink
Hustin#6475: Are there any differences between the thermalright macho direct and the macho rev. B?
Rinis#2222: if the motherboard was any good i'd have gotten it for 40 at most
Rinis#2222: just to see how far i could overclokc irt
mynameistak3n#6865: My wired Xbox 360 controller isn't working
JustinXenyx#8854: @Hustin Macho direct has one less heatpipe
Tinybox#9112: wait holy shit
Tinybox#9112: these guys are fast af
Tinybox#9112: They already shipped my stuff
Tinybox#9112: Well it seems that the wifi adapter will be coming extremely soon
Tinybox#9112: and that on a sunday |
Exomilav#5434: @TheFifthAce do i
TheFifthAce#4128: :hoesmad:
TheFifthAce#4128: :FeelsPingedMan:
Exomilav#5434: :Noo:
JustinXenyx#8854: Considering todays market, not really
TheFifthAce#4128: I did that already smh
TheFifthAce#4128: https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/cqu7ik/usava_h_gaming_computer_for_college_student_w_free/
Galilool#3398: he does that every once in a while
Jam#0384: The reason you would spend that much on old parts if because they were top class
Jam#0384: But I wouldn't buy that particular board for $70
Jam#0384: Maybe if it was like one of the best of that socket with nForce Ultra chipset or something
Impish#5173: Hey i have a sony m2 and i forgot the password(pin) is there anyway i can remove it without data loss? (Ive tried programs such as iskysoft tool box but it said my device isnt compatible)
TheGeekster#8508: experia m2? unfortunately if you could remove the pin without dataloss... it wouldn't be very secure
TheGeekster#8508: if you picked to encrypt the phone with the pin when you first set it, i really doubt there's any "not very very expensive" way of doing it
TheGeekster#8508: could contact some data recovery companies if the data is vital and not backed up? @Impish |
Impish#5173: yeah data isnt backed up ://
Impish#5173: what ways could i try to fix it though>?
Impish#5173: (sorry if my english is bad)
Impish#5173: when i use the emergency dial and tyr to fix it,it says "call not sent (phone number|) is not a emergency phone number)]
Impish#5173: in the worst case i could pay but how much would it be
TheGeekster#8508: your best bet is to contact a data recovery company, i have no idea how much it would be unfortunately
TheGeekster#8508: android has gotten quite good at locking things down now
Lady Mipha#0611: ^^
Impish#5173: alright so the only way is to contact a data recovery company?
TheGeekster#8508: if it is truly irreplaceable, then yeah
Impish#5173: alright thanks
Tinybox#9112: oh damn, this is the first time an amazon seller didn't instantly give me a tracking number after dispatching the product.
:GWcmeisterPeepoShrug: Is it even worth asking? (Bought an M.2 wifi card)
Abe.#3344: Generally, what's better. 2700x or 3600?
tdp2612#3835: id go for a 3600 as its obviously newer |
tdp2612#3835: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-2700X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3600/3958vs4040
tdp2612#3835: just checking the obvious google results, theyre tit for tat the same, but with newer architecture, should use less power, run cooler and be supported longer
Abe.#3344: But productivity wise, 2700x, right?
tdp2612#3835: i mean if youre rendering the extra cores might be nice, but then if in synthetic tests the results are near the same then maybe that would be reflected in at least rendering
tdp2612#3835: depends how well whatever youre using can make use of 16 threads
TheFifthAce#4128: @Abe. no
TheFifthAce#4128: 3600 is generally faster in every application, unless a program specifically gets aid from extra cores, the extra IPC and clockspeed of the 3600 make it amuch better option
Abe.#3344: Doesn't the 2700x have a higher clock?
tdp2612#3835: 2700(x) has 8c16t at 3.7
tdp2612#3835: 3600 has 6c12t at 3.6
Abe.#3344: But TBF, the 3600 should have more room for OC
tdp2612#3835: again its just can your programs get a good upgrade from the extra cores, more than the benefit of a newer chipset?
Abe.#3344: What are the advantages of x570 over x470, except Gen 4 PCI-E
tdp2612#3835: well nada
tdp2612#3835: but as a workstation, surely transfer speed is important |
TheFifthAce#4128: zen 2 has higher boost clocks @Abe.
TheFifthAce#4128: base clocks dont mean shit
TheFifthAce#4128: @tdp2612
Abe.#3344: @TheFifthAce do you mean PBO?
Abe.#3344: Or boost clocks?
TheFifthAce#4128: boost clocks
Abe.#3344: But the 2700x has a higher boost clock than the 3600
tdp2612#3835: i hadnt checked them tbh
Abe.#3344: 4.3 to 4.2
Abe.#3344: But it shouldn't be hard to OC
tdp2612#3835: then for that surely the 3600 would be better, as it should run cooler meaning more overhead to then overclock
TheFifthAce#4128: 4.3 is single core boost
TheFifthAce#4128: its not doing all core 4.3, the 2700x
TheFifthAce#4128: meanwhile the 3600 can do 4.1-4.2 all core
Tinybox#9112: @Abe. Gotta side with @TheFifthAce , unless you really need those extra cores, the 3600 is just a way better option in nearly every way. |
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