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DarknessFalls229#2286: no russ_the_b#5525: 1 stick of ram still nothing DarknessFalls229#2286: thres a bios setting that said what to do after power loss DarknessFalls229#2286: both slots tried? DarknessFalls229#2286: without any things plugged in like GPU, HDDs? russ_the_b#5525: no gpu no hdd 1 stick of ram tried 2 times in both slots still russ_the_b#5525: Nothing DarknessFalls229#2286: all power plugs plugged in correctly? russ_the_b#5525: yes russ_the_b#5525: its an oem so it would be pretty obvious if any plugs are disconnected DarknessFalls229#2286: does it have onboard graphics? russ_the_b#5525: yes it do russ_the_b#5525: the monitor is fine i tested it aswell DarknessFalls229#2286: nothing plugged into the back except monitor? russ_the_b#5525: yes
russ_the_b#5525: just the monitor nothing else russ_the_b#5525: *its bare minimum* russ_the_b#5525: the power cord is plugged ofc DarknessFalls229#2286: hmmm, then ive run out of ideas DarknessFalls229#2286: sorry DarknessFalls229#2286: maybe @JustinXenyx has some insight russ_the_b#5525: its weird since it worked with everything plugged before i just cleared cmos russ_the_b#5525: i turned off since and came back the next day to find the same problem but the same solution doesnt work russ_the_b#5525: so is my pc diagonsed with the dead? thatubuntuguy#5914: well this certainly is some very strange behavior Alcyone#2233: is this no post or wont boot? thatubuntuguy#5914: i think its no post thatubuntuguy#5914: it does nothing thatubuntuguy#5914: and then like 3 mins later gpu and other fans decide to go sicko mode Alcyone#2233: well that pretty much narrows it down to mobo or psu
thatubuntuguy#5914: yeah thatubuntuguy#5914: i'd try a different psu Alcyone#2233: even if it has gpu or ram error it will beep error code thatubuntuguy#5914: but its an oem -_- is it an atx compliant board? thatubuntuguy#5914: @russ_the_b russ_the_b#5525: compliant board? thatubuntuguy#5914: uhh is it at thatubuntuguy#5914: *atx Alcyone#2233: assuming it has a buzzer on the speaker pins, but if there is nothing it can only be connections, power supply or mobo thatubuntuguy#5914: or is it like those weird dell sffs russ_the_b#5525: nope its some custom weird hp sff shit thatubuntuguy#5914: so the psu is like those squashed cuboid ones not the standard atx psus russ_the_b#5525: with a custom weird psu thats doesnt have a 24pin russ_the_b#5525: yes thatubuntuguy#5914: oof
thatubuntuguy#5914: well i guess the last port of call would be to try a different pc to put your stuff in thatubuntuguy#5914: if that fixes it it was the psu thatubuntuguy#5914: if it doesn't, mobo is dead russ_the_b#5525: either way if mobo or psu i would have to buy both thatubuntuguy#5914: wait u have to buy them both together? russ_the_b#5525: no i meant because russ_the_b#5525: custom mobo and custom psu thatubuntuguy#5914: ohhhhh ok russ_the_b#5525: so if any of them is broke i would have to buy the 2 thatubuntuguy#5914: right gotcha thatubuntuguy#5914: yeah as alcyone said this is basically a mobo or psu or connection issue Alcyone#2233: I wouldnt invest in repairing an oem machine at all Alcyone#2233: what socket is it? russ_the_b#5525: 1150 thatubuntuguy#5914: haswell
thatubuntuguy#5914: how much is a replacement psu/board combo thatubuntuguy#5914: you're probably better off with a fresh system russ_the_b#5525: ivy i think idk what is it named but its 3rd gen thatubuntuguy#5914: ohhhkay... thatubuntuguy#5914: yeah its probably not worth investing in repairs for it then thatubuntuguy#5914: that's 1155 Alcyone#2233: I would buy any x8x/x9x chipset aib board and a standard atx psu if your system doesnt post with the bare minimum connected properly russ_the_b#5525: x8x ? isnt it z77? thatubuntuguy#5914: x6x / x7x thatubuntuguy#5914: those are the 2nd and 3rd gen ones thatubuntuguy#5914: 1155 Alcyone#2233: pop the components in, run it on a cardboard box until I could afford a atx or matx case (whichever format mobo is cheaper) russ_the_b#5525: yeah so basically i need a new mobo,psu,case and cooler Alcyone#2233: you want h81 B85 etc those are the locked 1150 chipsets Alcyone#2233: there was 90 chipset locked boards as well for broadwell that work. you just need any 1150 board from a name brand that is standard format. whatever is the cheapest if you dont have a K sku since its not worth putting much money into the old 4c limited sockets
russ_the_b#5525: 2c actually russ_the_b#5525: i3 3220 Alcyone#2233: oh you have ivy russ_the_b#5525: i think you missed it when i said that Alcyone#2233: so you need x7x chipset or an x6x chipset that has had the bios updated Alcyone#2233: oh I wasnt paying attention, just saw socket 1150, 1155 is sandy/ivy russ_the_b#5525: welp thanks for the help anyways i will now spend a stupid amount of time lookin for parts online Alcyone#2233: If you want it to work again and not build a new pc I would again buy a compatable aib motherboard and standard atx psu Alcyone#2233: where you located? russ_the_b#5525: the cooler is custom too russ_the_b#5525: north Africa russ_the_b#5525: stupidly barren market Alcyone#2233: the cooler mounting holes are standard though, funky oem coolers will fit russ_the_b#5525: yeah but its like hooked on the case itself Alcyone#2233: just unscrew or tear that shit off, you only need the heatsink, motherboard mount and fan
russ_the_b#5525: its a blower style cooler but the fan is in this stupid plastic shell hooked on the caae only the heatsink that has mounts russ_the_b#5525: so zipties ? Alcyone#2233: oh this some kinda thin pc russ_the_b#5525: yes sff Alcyone#2233: yeah you could ziptie any fan to the heatsink russ_the_b#5525: small form factor but not really since they call it microtower aka fuck hp SuSSudio#2688: That 10900X leak turned out to be true, other presses covering the leak SuSSudio#2688: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/624037491116212243/Screenshot_20190919-072203.png Budget#8265: 2 Minutes and 46 seconds of video done as poof of concept Budget#8265: I like where its goign so itll be up this weekend SuSSudio#2688: Insert dank memes here : https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i9-9900ks-5-ghz-cpu-127w-tdp-october-launch/ Lady Mipha#0611: It’s the **KILL SOMEONE** edition SuSSudio#2688: 127W base in ur p00r 4ss SuSSudio#2688: guess how much it'll erect at 5ghz all cores Lady Mipha#0611: :Hahahahaha:
wapted#6788: 10900x is x299, not surprising its true SuSSudio#2688: aahh HotShot#8006: Anyone know how good the Noctua redux fans are as case fans? HotShot#8006: I've got the cooler master storm trooper case and I'm cooling a 6700k with a h100iv2 push pull with two sets of noctua fans. (A12x15 and used F12 fans) and I'm going to replace the stock cooler master led fans now with some noctua redux fans to get the noise down and still get cooling. TheGeekster#8508: They should be fine? MythologicalZ#3752: :Mainman: MythologicalZ#3752: Theres your answer TheFifthAce#4128: horrendous TheGeekster#8508: It's not the best, but if you have a solid side panel, it isn't gonna affect anything Impish#5173: :Shit_company: :OmegaxD: thatubuntuguy#5914: haha yes HotShot#8006: Thanks for the help. I think I will still get them even though i can afford the better brown and cream ones, but Im also not desperate to change much more as I have almost done my setup and Really the only thing I want to change now is my core parts because I ran out of PCI lanes on Skylake Illegal Immigrant#3366: Does anyone know how to fix a nintendo ds lite l2 indicator? Illegal Immigrant#3366: This is probably a bit out of your relm of knowhow, but if you do know i would be very greatful "Cobs"#1150: no idea pal
"Cobs"#1150: just buy a new one, they cheap af Bogrolluser#5568: -l2 indicator? Bogrolluser#5568: oohhhh Bogrolluser#5568: its a fuse Bogrolluser#5568: https://youtu.be/P1CFLbtkMSc Bogrolluser#5568: a simple google search Illegal Immigrant#3366: I tried a google search, but it seemed like that didnt relate to the particular issue Illegal Immigrant#3366: Though i did try my hand at soldering it Illegal Immigrant#3366: First time i ever sid Xbox 360 1953#2640: When removing my cpu from my pc I saw this. Anyone know what happened to it? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/624338230782722059/IMG_20190919_161616.jpg Xbox 360 1953#2640: (the brown stuff) Alcyone#2233: is it burnt or is that residue from a liquid spill/leak? Alcyone#2233: which would probably also roast it. could be from dirty fingers if it was still working Xbox 360 1953#2640: Was still working and I didn't touch the underside after removing it Illegal Immigrant#3366: good news and bad news on the ds lite.
good news, i can put a ds lite back together. bad news, i cant fix a ds lite by soldering Jam#0384: oof Jam#0384: I have a DS Lite Jam#0384: I mean they arent really worth anything Jam#0384: Just buy another SuSSudio#2688: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/624415592258207744/unknown.png MythologicalZ#3752: Geekbench Dev is an ass MythologicalZ#3752: https://community.hwbot.org/topic/191538-benchmate-093-is-out-supporting-geekbench-5/ MythologicalZ#3752: Imagine sueing someone because they try to improve your shit show software SuSSudio#2688: https://twitter.com/momomo_us/status/1175032659673616385 Alcyone#2233: its not just geekbench, there is a timer bug with W10 on some hardware, you can get invalid results or spoof scores. W7 is required for some benches and a bitch to install on newer platforms so the Benchmate team is trying to write a program that will verify the score is accurate. Suing them is some bullshit tho MythologicalZ#3752: Yeah MythologicalZ#3752: Theres a petition to have it dropped MythologicalZ#3752: I don't run it personally so I'm not all that knowledgeable about it
MythologicalZ#3752: I just mess with obscure SLI/Xfire shit lol Alcyone#2233: im down for it unless someone comes up with a better solution. If it makes it easier and more people bench, thats a good thing Alcyone#2233: competitive overclocking has been in decline. I support anything that will keep it alive TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/624642822062080020/unknown.png TheFifthAce#4128: lo SuSSudio#2688: :Mainman: Tinybox#9112: ***quick question:*** Tinybox#9112: if you have a HDD LED Cable like this: Tinybox#9112: This means. Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/624682213820203009/unknown.png Tinybox#9112: The bottom pin is - Tinybox#9112: and the top pin is +? TheGeekster#8508: yep Tinybox#9112: alright it doesn't matter how I connect the reset switch and power switch if I remember correctly @TheGeekster Tinybox#9112: I don't know why I'm asking, but I'm just double checking I guess.
TheGeekster#8508: aye switches don't matter Lady Mipha#0611: @LaeMat FAT is different from FAT32 LaeMat#0420: Ok Lady Mipha#0611: FAT being the older model of FAT32 LaeMat#0420: I’m using SD Card Formatter on Mac LaeMat#0420: (My Family iMac tbh) LaeMat#0420: So not my own iMac Lady Mipha#0611: Ok LaeMat#0420: Now that didn’t work LaeMat#0420: I forgot the password for admin LaeMat#0420: Do I uncounted the SD card and remount it? LaeMat#0420: *unmount Lady Mipha#0611: No Lady Mipha#0611: If you’re changing computers yes LaeMat#0420: Linux won’t let me format the SD card
Lady Mipha#0611: If it’s in exfat you need a windows computer LaeMat#0420: Oh LaeMat#0420: Well shit Lady Mipha#0611: Microsoft proprietary file system LaeMat#0420: Booting up my Toshiba laptop then LaeMat#0420: Since it’s faster than my Dell (HDD wise) LaeMat#0420: Still laggy at startup LaeMat#0420: Is NTFS fine? LaeMat#0420: Windows won’t let me do Fat32 Lady Mipha#0611: Yeah LaeMat#0420: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/624781009996480512/image0.jpg Lady Mipha#0611: Oh almost forgot Lady Mipha#0611: Now try formatting as fat32 Lady Mipha#0611: If possible Lady Mipha#0611: Because ntfs is read only
Lady Mipha#0611: In Linux LaeMat#0420: aaaaaaa LaeMat#0420: Now my laptop won’t turn on LaeMat#0420: :ConsiderThis: Lady Mipha#0611: :ConsiderThis: LaeMat#0420: I just shut it Lady Mipha#0611: Probably went to sleep LaeMat#0420: The space bar, mouse and power button weren’t working LaeMat#0420: OH COME ON https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/624781829395841024/image0.jpg LaeMat#0420: Should I let it scan BigPierogi#3368: did your laptop just die Lady Mipha#0611: Yeah LaeMat#0420: not sure LaeMat#0420: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/624782157029572654/image0.jpg LaeMat#0420: Is this bad?
Lady Mipha#0611: No LaeMat#0420: phew LaeMat#0420: well I’ll let it go LaeMat#0420: @Lady Mipha still can’t format it to Fat32 LaeMat#0420: Should I try another app? Xbox 360 1953#2640: Does it say write locked or whatever? Lady Mipha#0611: ^ Lady Mipha#0611: It’s a physical switch on the SD card Xbox 360 1953#2640: if the switch says its not locked then I think youre fucked LaeMat#0420: it says not locked LaeMat#0420: so do I need a new SD card? Xbox 360 1953#2640: If the switch says it isnt but the pc says it is then I think yeah Lady Mipha#0611: ^ nacabaro#2138: @LaeMat you need the ntfs-3g package nacabaro#2138: if you want to write to ntfs
nacabaro#2138: you can just install ntfs-3g and remount as read-write using the terminal SuSSudio#2688: Found this on a local fb group, $1922 wasted https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/624905496167448596/FB_IMG_1569059397862.jpg ChildishMaldwyn.#0802: sheesh Lady Mipha#0611: :OmegaxD: Lady Mipha#0611: :Oof: nacabaro#2138: that image hurts Lady Mipha#0611: ^ SuSSudio#2688: Indeed it does SuSSudio#2688: Owner doesn't know a lot about computer building, so he probably put the cpu on the wrong direction & forcefully close the lid. wapted#6788: just use a bit of glue ChildishMaldwyn.#0802: use a hammer to bend it back JustinXenyx#8854: May still be rescuable, but i doubt it @SuSSudio JustinXenyx#8854: If none of the pins would've been affected it would probably be fine but the moment you fuck with pins you're fucked SuSSudio#2688: original post got removed, probably he bought a new unit (+ the mobo if ruined aswell) JustinXenyx#8854: Mobo should still be in tact
Alcyone#2233: if he put it in the socket backwards and latched the ilm down the pins inside probably got yeeted by the cpu substrate when it origami'd SuSSudio#2688: Could be :Oof: SuSSudio#2688: The right side substrate got badly ripped, iirc the owner said system can't detect ram Alcyone#2233: this is why you RTFM if you don't know what youre doing. not a bad idea to read it even if you do JustinXenyx#8854: ReadTheFuckingManual? @Alcyone Alcyone#2233: yee Alcyone#2233: mobo manual would have had a diagram showing to line the notches in the cpu up with the ones in the socket My Vice#8522: is there any hope without doing reballing? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/625005851257733171/20190921_133001.jpg JustinXenyx#8854: reballing what? @My Vice SuSSudio#2688: Looks like the gpu chip JustinXenyx#8854: Only thing that looks wrong may be the VRM controller + some surrounding components Alcyone#2233: if it doesnt work first thing id do is take the vrm sink off and give the whole card a scrub with 99% iso, i see a lot of grimy dust and rust JustinXenyx#8854: look near the bottom of the card, close to that 4 pin (fan?) connector, there are some fried resistors etc My Vice#8522: oh My Vice#8522: i think thats oxide
My Vice#8522: im not the one cleaning itt My Vice#8522: my pc is doing kernel security failure when i try to install windows kittycat959#2895: disable secureboot? kittycat959#2895: dont wipe the keys tho Perms 🎃🎃#3092: Oh God someone help with my iPhone kittycat959#2895: @Perms 🎃🎃 what do you need help for Lady Mipha#0611: ^ Perms 🎃🎃#3092: Ok nvm sorry Perms 🎃🎃#3092: Basically my iPhone WiFi was greyed out Perms 🎃🎃#3092: And reset my WiFi settings and shit wapted#6788: >dont buy iphones Tinybox#9112: Is the corsair MWE 650 gold any good? TheGeekster#8508: Probably Xbox 360 1953#2640: @Tinybox Do you mean coolermaster? thatubuntuguy#5914: what about a tx650m
Xbox 360 1953#2640: That seems good SussyBalls#4615: I have a tx750m (v1) as a spare, got it for cheap because it's third hand with the first owner being a smoker, only use it for testing since it can smell when the fan starts spinning, but it's rather nice SussyBalls#4615: so the tx650m *should* be a fine unit too Tinybox#9112: yea I mean cooler master Rysing Dragoon#5628: Guys I think my GPU died for real Rysing Dragoon#5628: I checked to see if the sagging was the issue, and I even checked to see if the HDMI cord is fine Rysing Dragoon#5628: What should I do? Tinybox#9112: test it in another system, try another pcie port @Rysing Dragoon Reinstall drivers, (DDU and then reinstall) Try using some windows repair commands. sfc /scannow DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth Tinybox#9112: If all that doesnt work see if you can rma it, since it's an RX 560 Tinybox#9112: y know call for warranty ^ Tinybox#9112: ^^All the stuff you can do, at least what I can remember without checking on the internet myself
Rysing Dragoon#5628: It's working Rysing Dragoon#5628: I guess it's probably because it's not screwed into the case Rysing Dragoon#5628: I don't have screws for it that would fit My Vice#8522: is it good to get a cheap offer on a G29 Wheel with cockpit and shit rather than upgrade a 2600K to a 4790K? My Vice#8522: i got a 1070 paired with it and yes i like racing games russ_the_b#5525: go for the cpu upgrade russ_the_b#5525: racing stuff gets cheaper as time passes russ_the_b#5525: and the cpu upgrade is really worth it more russ_the_b#5525: keep i mind you will also need to upgrade the mobo with the cpu My Vice#8522: i already got the mobo and stuff My Vice#8522: but my father said like "it doesnt gives that much fps but idk, go for it if you can" My Vice#8522: and no i didnt buy the mobo it was already here for a while
russ_the_b#5525: cpu wont give you a BIG fps boost unless your card was bottlenecked by it by it will imporve the pc performance overall and especially with multi-tasking russ_the_b#5525: also alot of newer AAA games wont run if you have an old cpu My Vice#8522: oh TheGeekster#8508: If it's a good offer on the steering wheel compared to normal price, i'd suggest going for that, as that's gonna be far more rare than a CPU SuSSudio#2688: In racing games it won't be too much of a difference going from 2600K to 4790K SuSSudio#2688: you just need an adequate video cards for later titles Shyphlosion#9281: So guys Shyphlosion#9281: I got a build for ya, something pretty impressive Shyphlosion#9281: How does $250 sound for a Core i7-4771 under a HYPER 212 EVO, an MSi AFTERBURNER GTX 980 and 16GB of DDR3-1600 RAM all on an MSi B85-G43 GAMING Motherboard with a 775W PSU (bonus, it also has a blue LED fan) and 2 1TB Hard Drives (a WD Black and a Hitachi ULTRASTAR), all bundled up nicely in a PowerSpec G428 case? :Heyyy: MythologicalZ#3752: You should be more concerned about your PSU especially since OCing Maxwell is basically required since stock is snore,not that a blower card will be that great and a SSD would also be nice but otherwise its a good deal TheGeekster#8508: It's a locked cpu, that should work, but the PSU would be a good idea to swap out in the future for a more reliable brand My Vice#8522: is there any good and cheap network card 5ghz that pulls 240MBs easily? My Vice#8522: from a questionable distance My Vice#8522: a PCIE one TheGeekster#8508: Not without decent antennas and access points
TheGeekster#8508: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/626416621338099732/0BXO-Krt9rSiopn6k.png My Vice#8522: an tplink ac1300 would do it? My Vice#8522: it has 2 antennas to plug in TheGeekster#8508: Eh it should be okay, but you won't get 240mbps over it, unless you're very near to the router, 5Ghz has awful range My Vice#8522: fck TheGeekster#8508: 2.4ghz has range, 5ghz has speed My Vice#8522: but wtf My Vice#8522: my father uses an alienware laptop My Vice#8522: near the same place i am My Vice#8522: he gets even more than 240mbs My Vice#8522: but i get only 80 TheGeekster#8508: what's your card? My Vice#8522: its a samsung adapter My Vice#8522: i dont have a card My Vice#8522: it is 5ghz
TheGeekster#8508: laptops have larger surface area for antennas, and that's probably why, USB adapters are notoriously slow My Vice#8522: but the network card antennas would be more eficient right? My Vice#8522: if pointed correctly TheGeekster#8508: generally yeah, if he can get decent signal there, they should generally be better, but can't promise it TheGeekster#8508: the antennas are omnidirectional, shouldn't make a huge difference My Vice#8522: well, i guess ill go for it the motherboard has a decent killer network thing but its LAN not wireless My Vice#8522: and im too far from the router's room My Vice#8522: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/626417932003442700/SmartSelect_20190925-110204_Chrome.jpg My Vice#8522: is this too bad for a cheap 480ssd? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/626419361942470686/SmartSelect_20190925-110735_Chrome.jpg TheGeekster#8508: that's fine but the test size is too small, 4gb could still be hitting cache My Vice#8522: hm My Vice#8522: ill get one of these with that network card maybe My Vice#8522: goldenfir TheGeekster#8508: what SSD is it?
My Vice#8522: its a goldenfir TheGeekster#8508: i... i wouldn't TheGeekster#8508: oh god no, yeah no don't touch them My Vice#8522: oh My Vice#8522: they are the only cheap ones im finding along some A400 My Vice#8522: and A300 TheGeekster#8508: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/545181464363401216/622423433132769300/2ya0Pt1l_1.jpeg?width=513&height=328 My Vice#8522: too bad those 6 ones are the only ones i can afford TheGeekster#8508: It goes back to the previous poster i showed, if you get cheap, you'll pay later on when it prematurely fails TheGeekster#8508: go down in size TheGeekster#8508: 240gb instead of 480gb TheGeekster#8508: more than enough for the OS, programs, games on a hard drive? My Vice#8522: well i got alot of games that sucks on hd'a
My Vice#8522: hd's* My Vice#8522: thats why i wanted ssd's for em My Vice#8522: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/626420710536904704/SmartSelect_20190925-111227_Chrome.jpg My Vice#8522: bad one? My Vice#8522: there is this one too https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/626420927630147585/SmartSelect_20190925-111353_Chrome.jpg MythologicalZ#3752: There is a tier list in pins My Vice#8522: well but i dont see these ones My Vice#8522: i think TheGeekster#8508: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/622423559448559636/LBFkAp5l.jpeg TheGeekster#8508: they're NVME drives TheGeekster#8508: if the drive is purely for games, and you don't give a shit if it craps out, then you could get the goldenfir thing, but i've found nothing but negative reviews online for it My Vice#8522: lol maybe i'll pair a nvme 240gb one with an intel 240gb one My Vice#8522: the network card will be for redownloading and such My Vice#8522: since i dont have space
ill have the internet to redownload atleast My Vice#8522: so yeah ill do the unninstall and download strat My Vice#8522: if i had an slow internet i would go for 2tb drives and shi**y 480ssd's TheGeekster#8508: you can migrate downloaded files in steam without redownloading them My Vice#8522: i play some ~~pirate~~ games too.. My Vice#8522: but yeah i got some spare drives so no problem My Vice#8522: i think ill try to get a 1tb hard drive later on to store instalations My Vice#8522: ill try this one, pretty expensive here but yeah, atleast its very fast for the OS and such https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/626422949372624896/SmartSelect_20190925-112144_Chrome.jpg TheGeekster#8508: do you have an nvme slot free? TheGeekster#8508: just making sure My Vice#8522: i dont even use the motherboard yet My Vice#8522: im gonna get a 4790K for the mobo My Vice#8522: z97x gaming 3 TheGeekster#8508: okay does have an nvme slot, i'd use that for the OS, then any sata drives you get further down the line for games & bits My Vice#8522: how the fuck im gonna arrange this?? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/626427765201305620/JPEG_20190925_114104.jpg
My Vice#8522: i got only 3 energy cables for sata's My Vice#8522: but i cant put them in a safe way My Vice#8522: without bending the gpu's pin cable even more My Vice#8522: it is semi modular but i dont have the rest of the cables My Vice#8522: i dont like this but if it works then well nothing can go wrong right? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/626429048075059241/JPEG_20190925_114554.jpg TheGeekster#8508: i've seen worse My Vice#8522: not like this? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/626430217329836062/JPEG_20190925_115049.jpg My Vice#8522: i mean idk if a diagonal position like that would slowly kill it My Vice#8522: sounds like a myth im gonna turn it on and see if it goes alright My Vice#8522: perfect. My Vice#8522: oh wait what My Vice#8522: they are not being shown in the system wtf? Alcyone#2233: if they are raw drives they need formatted first, use disk management, right click the disk>format and assign a drive letter
My Vice#8522: they already have some files My Vice#8522: the disk manager doesnt detects them My Vice#8522: but the bios does My Vice#8522: well i guess i found what happened My Vice#8522: its the O.S wapted#6788: Having a drive like that at a random funny angle (especially a 2.5inch drive) is unlikely to be a problem for a consumers use wapted#6788: for data centre use WD/Seagate etc recommend drives to be at 0* or 90* (+-5*) but eh wiryfuture🦀#1706: heya, I'm going to France for a couple days (In about a month) and I'm wondering how I can save money on fx rates (I'm with TSB, and theirs is £1 flat, and 2.5% on top (ew, that's crap), if I were to find something, I'd want to be able to use it from my phone :\ TheGeekster#8508: fx rates? this... this is not the place to get advice on how to change money 😂 wiryfuture🦀#1706: Idk, maybe someone would know about one of those electronic banks that doesn't succ TheGeekster#8508: your best bet is to go to the banks, i think santander doesn't charge to use your debit card abroad wapted#6788: revolute and monzo let you spend I think £200 abroad at the market rate without fees (might be more but it is atleast 200) Hustin#6475: Random question here: Is the noctua u12a better than the u14s? miklos_akos#1999: Hi, which GPU do you recommend for a Core 2 Quad Q9400? DarknessFalls229#2286: Nothing higher in terms of performance than a 1050
miklos_akos#1999: Thanks Tinybox#9112: Just a quick question. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627144319370919947/IMG_20190927_160547.jpg Tinybox#9112: I can directly install a motherboard to these large "standoffs" right? SuSSudio#2688: Yeah i suppose DarknessFalls229#2286: should be fine Tinybox#9112: Some guy is offering me 70 Euros for my P9X79 BOARD, its got a dead ethernet. But I included a card @Tech Helper Tinybox#9112: Should I go for it? Budget#8265: I mean at the end of the day depends son your finances and if you need the money, and odnt want the stuff Budget#8265: Im not upto date on X79 Value Tinybox#9112: It's just; I'd like to upgrade to Ryzen, A 1600 costs 65 Euros used here. An AM4 board like a pro4 is about 45 Euros. Tinybox#9112: I know a 3930k is 40 euros and just as fast as a 1600
Tinybox#9112: Plus cheaper ddr3, but x79 is basically a dead platform Galilool#3398: where exactly is a 3930k as fast as a 1600? JustinXenyx#8854: I think you should probs take him up on his offer for 70€ tbh Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx Aight, I offered him 80, ill see what he says if he doesn't respond tomorrow ill tell him 70 is fine. Quick question, for a switch to work I need to install it on the "switch" thing, and a ground pin? Or a dummy pin? Alcyone#2233: for the power switch, case reset and clear cmos, yes Tinybox#9112: Aight Alcyone#2233: for a normal electrical switch it will just interrupt the positive wire Tinybox#9112: Btw alc, um if I'm not sure what is +/- on a HDDLED connector (because my case didn't mark it), Should I just yolo it? Or rather just leave it Alcyone#2233: you dont know the +- of the cable, or the header pins on mobo? DarknessFalls229#2286: ive got an i5 2320, 8gb ddr3, 1tb HDD system for sale for 150 euro, after a week i only got one bid of 100 euro. Should i accept or wait for another few days or say that for like 110-130 he can have it?
DarknessFalls229#2286: windows 10 home Alcyone#2233: Id take the 100 euro unless it was a loss, you can get i5 oems for ~$100 usd here DarknessFalls229#2286: well, i bought the thing for 5 euro so yeah DarknessFalls229#2286: i think im gonna say "youve got a deal unless i get a higher bid in the next 4 days" SussyBalls#4615: lmao how did you get it for 5 euros DarknessFalls229#2286: flea market DarknessFalls229#2286: the things you can get from them is so wild DarknessFalls229#2286: it can be a 5 euro pentium 4 pc, or an i5 system like i got DarknessFalls229#2286: maybe even better, imagine SussyBalls#4615: the flea markets i've gone to have been shit, old pottery, utensils or some satellite phone SussyBalls#4615: did you get them at the very start of the season? I've never gone to a flea market at the start of the season, always end up there midseason or in the very end DarknessFalls229#2286: season? DarknessFalls229#2286: just be there when the thing starts, all the pcs will be gone in the first 20 minutes unless theyre shite SussyBalls#4615: well by start of the season I mean when the weather clears up and makes flea markets possible, it seems to be when most is sold
DarknessFalls229#2286: i just go to any in the area if i have time DarknessFalls229#2286: not shot, never hit DarknessFalls229#2286: _which is an iteration of never shot, always miss_ thatubuntuguy#5914: what's a flea market thatubuntuguy#5914: is it basically a fancy name for car boot sale DarknessFalls229#2286: same thing id say DarknessFalls229#2286: otherwise id call them "rommelmarkt" which translates to 'junkmarket' TheFifthAce#4128: wasn't there an important person called rommel Galilool#3398: Yup. Erwin Rommel, german Generalfeldmarschall. The "desert fox" BigPierogi#3368: he died the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: Problem simplified: Old laptop , win xp , forgot password and admin has pass the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: Any ideas? EightMegsAndConstantlySwapping#7022: Login in safe mode with command prompt and reset it from there. the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: oh yeah
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: Forgot about safe mode with cmd the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: Been a while loading tho the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: Nvm the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: Just opened the moment I said so the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: Aaaaaaand it requires password the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: I have an idea tho TheFifthAce#4128: linux partition time the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: U know when u press Ctrl alt delete and it brings the log on to windows window ? I want to know the exe of that , so that I can rename it in Linux to cmd the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: So when I press Ctrl alt delete the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: It opens cmd Tinybox#9112: I HATE MY LUCK OOF Tinybox#9112: moved, cases Tinybox#9112: then I realized, the audio cable is weird. Tinybox#9112: plugged it in anyway. Tinybox#9112: no recognizing at alll
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: just use onboard audio the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: On the motherboard Tinybox#9112: that's what I'm doing rn Tinybox#9112: got my extension cord here the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: some cases do that the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: I had that with my old pc the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: Its not solvalble I tried Tinybox#9112: Although there is something very annoying rn :sad_peter: the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: Or unless its the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: Shorted Tinybox#9112: one of the case fans is running at 2.5K RPM Tinybox#9112: Because only the 3 pin connectors on my motherboard support VCC: TheFifthAce#4128: @Tinybox front panel audio is shit tho Tinybox#9112: I love using it, it's so convenient y know the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: Abstract u know the exe name ?
Tinybox#9112: although profit on this new case Tinybox#9112: 3 front panel USB Tinybox#9112: instead of 2, Tinybox#9112: I mean 1 Tinybox#9112: And I couldn't use that single connector ALONG with the FRONT panel audio, because it would cause interference Tinybox#9112: I realized something too, Tinybox#9112: for some reason after moving cases... Tinybox#9112: my wifi adapter.. Tinybox#9112: ***starts behaving normally*** Tinybox#9112: It's a bit higher now than it was before.. Tinybox#9112: well I guess this is an okay sacrifice... Tinybox#9112: although my pc being loud rn, aint, Ill switch out the foxcon fan for one of my sharkoon silent wings, or my AVC PWM fan, because my sharkoon silent wings only run at 1K rpm, and barely pull any air, which is important because this entire case only has 2 case fans. Alcyone#2233: is it an old case or mobo? there are 2 formats, hd audio and old ac97. you can repin ac97 connector to work with hd audio but it wont mute the speakers when you plug in headphones Tinybox#9112: It's hard to say, @Alcyone
I think it's an older case, an enermax case here. It's got 2 pins missing. (the blank one + some other one) Tinybox#9112: So I think it's ac97 Alcyone#2233: google ac97 front panel on hd audio motherboard, there should be some guides to repin or maybe somebody makes an adapter cable now Tinybox#9112: alright will do yark#6609: Hello I can't get my laptop to charge, I have tried multiple outlets and nothing has happened. The light for when its charging happens but it doesn't actually charge at all. yark#6609: I'd like some help figuring out why its happening and if it is able to be fixed. SussyBalls#4615: hm try booting it without a battery (still plugged to power) Lady Mipha#0611: ^ the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: Does it boot and not charge the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: Or does it not boot at all bec something with the battery the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: oh and guys the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: I was able to open the old xp laptop the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: , through a live Linux CD I went to sda1 (windows partition) and made a cmd copy and renamed to the sticky keys exe and deleted the sticky keys ( who needs it) and booted the laptop through HDD and pressed shift 5 times and cmd !!!!! And changed password
Tinybox#9112: @Alcyone I don't seem to be able to find any guides, so Ill try following the instructions on my motherboard manual Deleted User#0000: What is the purpose of this? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627463365668896778/JPEG_20190928_121515.jpg Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627463441598382080/JPEG_20190928_121540.jpg Lady Mipha#0611: That looks like a 3 pin fan control Deleted User#0000: I thought that but then idk Deleted User#0000: dug it out of an old gaming rig Lady Mipha#0611: The knob on the front would control the speed at which the fan spins Deleted User#0000: ah fair Deleted User#0000: seems quite a lot to control one fan lol Lady Mipha#0611: Hook it into a hub and it would be more Deleted User#0000: ah yeah I might try that when I rebuilt my rig SanteRaptor#2609: @Tech Helper https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627470627464282132/20190928_144219.jpg SanteRaptor#2609: it started artifacting at boot for a second and then this happened Budget#8265: Yes? Budget#8265: is this your main PC?
SanteRaptor#2609: no SanteRaptor#2609: new build SanteRaptor#2609: been working on this for 9 days SanteRaptor#2609: and now that i booted it again it worked fine SanteRaptor#2609: rx 570 4gb and a 200ge SanteRaptor#2609: card has been underclocked by 15% and cpu ocd by 400mhz Budget#8265: I mean your BCLK Overclocking the 200GE Arent you? Budget#8265: So revert your CPU Overclock Budget#8265: Also why is the card underclocked, surely you should just undervolt SanteRaptor#2609: but i ocd the 200ge a week ago and have tested it intensly ever since, SanteRaptor#2609: im not sure what it was called SanteRaptor#2609: the gpu is 15% undervolted due to trying to make the macjine more quiet SanteRaptor#2609: oh SanteRaptor#2609: now i just have a black screen Budget#8265: Ah undervolted not underclocked, right, well it seems you may have gone a bit far with your undervolt
Budget#8265: If I as you boot up with the iGPU, run DDU to revert the OC, and start again Budget#8265: IVe had this happen before but with an OC SanteRaptor#2609: so i cant just do the ab thing to revert it? Budget#8265: I mean thats what I did when it happened to me Budget#8265: Windows 10 is fucky with getting into safe mode SanteRaptor#2609: so ddu, boot with igpu and the install the drivers again? Budget#8265: Boot with iGPU, Run DDU, and Then Stick your main GPU back in it, and install drivers again Budget#8265: Takes about 10 mins SanteRaptor#2609: okay, got it, thanks SanteRaptor#2609: the card is brand new so im worried Budget#8265: You undervolted it and then it artifacted, also its brand new, so its udner warranty, it doesent matter SanteRaptor#2609: the funny thing is that it didnt crash or artifact before today even though its been running test for like 3 days SanteRaptor#2609: how should i test its stability? Tinybox#9112: Color coded all my AC97 cables, (I want to use AC97 on a HD AUDIO MOTHERBOARD)
My motherboard specifies this; https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627485097641377803/Screenshot_20190928-144135.png Tinybox#9112: What do I do with the other ac97 cables? @Tech Helper Do I just plug them out? Budget#8265: 3D Mark Loop @SanteRaptor Budget#8265: If its an audio jack just plug it in, we're not google and your borderline abusingthis ping now @Tinybox Tinybox#9112: No, it's the front panel connector, on the motherboard Tinybox#9112: Sorry about the ping though Tinybox#9112: Apparently you need to repin, ac97 to work on hd audio sadly I can't find a guide Budget#8265: What are you trying to do with the connector, Tinybox#9112: I just want to plug it in and have it work. Plugging it in just like that didn't work for me. Tinybox#9112: Nothing in the bios, with ac97. Tinybox#9112: Only this manual entry Budget#8265: Why do you want to use AC97 how old is htis case? Tinybox#9112: Ahhh it's pretty old, no hd audio on it
Tinybox#9112: I don't know the exact age Tinybox#9112: All I know it's old.. Budget#8265: You do know how AC97 audio works, you plug it in to the headers and it loops the audio from the back connectors to the front connectors Budget#8265: Shutting off the rear connections Tinybox#9112: So, that's how it works? Damn. I guess it would be better to just leave it and wait to get a new case. Well then, sorry for wasting your time.. And also sorry about the ping 😅 Budget#8265: "AC97" and "HD Audio" reffer to Intel standards for onboard audio. A minor part of those standards is a front-panel audio connector. However the connectors are only semi-compatible. In particular the handling of plugging in of front panel devices is different. On AC97 audio to the rear audio output was looped by the front audio output and plugging in a device to the front panel audio output would electrically disconnect the rear audio output from the audio source. If you wanted to use an AC97 motherboard without front panel audio it was nessacery to put jumpers on the audio header to make the rear audio output work.
On HDA audio to the front and rear outputs comes from seperate outputs on the audio codec. The pins that were previously used to loop back audio from the front are repurposed as connector-detect pins. It is up to software whether to disable the rear panel audio output when a connector is plugged into the front panel output. Budget#8265: The ping is alright, but a 2 second google search throws up the same as what I can tell you Tinybox#9112: Alright then, thanks. Tinybox#9112: Ill spend more time googling then next time, maybe the basics first. I mainly just looked for a way to use ac97 on a hd audio panel, and how to repin it. JustinXenyx#8854: may have been stacked under some heavy stuff during shipment wapted#6788: ^ SanteRaptor#2609: rma takes 2 weeks, the pc gets picked up at the end of next week and i cant buy a replacement because if they fail to replicate the issue i wont be getting my money back making me run out of money SanteRaptor#2609: first run of 3dmark......crash.... SanteRaptor#2609: second, result:invalid SanteRaptor#2609: i have not seen even the tiniest amount of artifacting after thst SanteRaptor#2609: @Deinsti do you know about airflow? SanteRaptor#2609: i guess not sajanator3#3333: Would it be more worth getting an x79 mobo with a Xeon 2689 or and LGA 1155 with an i5 or some LGA 1356 stuff Abe.#3344: @sajanator3 what will you use it for and do you mean brand new or used?
sajanator3#3333: Gaming sajanator3#3333: Imma buy it off AliExpress sajanator3#3333: @Abe. JustinXenyx#8854: None of them really @sajanator3 Abe.#3344: And don't buy off AliExpress... Abe.#3344: Stuff can be fake and/or damaged and I've had experienced with them some being a bit sketch Abe.#3344: And not allowing returns for damaged goods sajanator3#3333: Would a e5 2689 bottleneck a r9 290 sajanator3#3333: And also would the 2.6ghz hold be back JustinXenyx#8854: LGA2011 boards from Ali are junk (they are shitty B and H series chipset boards), 1356 is obsolete and if you can spend enough money for LGA2011 there is no point to getting a 1155 platform JustinXenyx#8854: No and yes @sajanator3 JustinXenyx#8854: E5 2690V2 owner here, Gaming fucking sucks on it because of the lacking core clock sajanator3#3333: Because it's £107 for a e5 2689 and a mobo sajanator3#3333: Oh Abe.#3344: What's your budget and what do you want to upgrade?
sajanator3#3333: So I've got like £130 sajanator3#3333: I'm thinking I get the £107 bundle thing Abe.#3344: So you want to get a mobo and CPU? sajanator3#3333: And sell my current mobo, ram and gpu sajanator3#3333: And then get an r9 290 Abe.#3344: So you need a mobo, CPU and ram? JustinXenyx#8854: R9 290s were pretty pricy last time i checked, i think even RX470's are a better deal sajanator3#3333: And a CPU cooler which is like £15 sajanator3#3333: @JustinXenyx well I mean they are £70 for me sajanator3#3333: Because of CeX SanteRaptor#2609: oi Justin, can i now ask about airflow in a build of mine? JustinXenyx#8854: That's RX470 money sajanator3#3333: Huh JustinXenyx#8854: That's a major rip off for a R9 290 JustinXenyx#8854: @SanteRaptor Sure, go right ahead
Abe.#3344: What mobo and CPU do you have rn? JustinXenyx#8854: Also, you don't wanna run a E5 2689 with a 15Quid cooler sajanator3#3333: 290x is also £70 sajanator3#3333: The cooler looked good Abe.#3344: What mobo and CPU do you have rn? @sajanator3 sajanator3#3333: My username sajanator3#3333: Nickname thing Abe.#3344: Wait nvm Abe.#3344: I'm stupid lmao sajanator3#3333: It's fine JustinXenyx#8854: Also, i think 130 Quid could already get you a basic Ryzen setup JustinXenyx#8854: So you could upgrade later on sajanator3#3333: ECC ram is Hella cheap tho sajanator3#3333: The registered stuff sajanator3#3333: So I could sell my 12gb ddr3
sajanator3#3333: And get like 16gb registered ram SanteRaptor#2609: so i got this oem case thar has a grill in the side but it ends before reachinh the gpu height. gpu gets air well but it has problems getting it out so i set 2 fans in a rowjust to push the air out so my question is that if we focus on the gpu air and the cpu gets air from the side grill, what way should the yellow question mark fan push air to (im sorry if this is gibberish, im feelin a bit dizzy) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627591533931266065/20190928_195632.jpg JustinXenyx#8854: I mean, why save on RAM if you're gonna buy in a dead platform? sajanator3#3333: @JustinXenyx because I get more ram sajanator3#3333: For the same price Abe.#3344: I agree with Justin JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah but you still get a shitty platform that isn't worth the price Abe.#3344: About ryzen Abe.#3344: Was researching Abe.#3344: https://www.awd-it.co.uk/amd-ryzen-3-2200g-quad-core-3.7ghz-vega-graphics-asus-a320m-k-motherboard-cpu-bundle.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwibzsBRAMEiwA1pHZrs85Wsb-tm2fLIAl7IVmsFdKlSJSq_qzcqM-0utEodsGUKQNL8iQ-BoCUP8QAvD_BwE Abe.#3344: It doesn't include ram, so you'll need to save a bit more Abe.#3344: But if you want brand new that's available Abe.#3344: Used could get you the full setup Abe.#3344: And lots of upgradability JustinXenyx#8854: @SanteRaptor I wouldn't try to push air out the front, there's practically no room to do so. I'd use the backfan as an outtake, because that would be the most practical and the most dust-friendly
Abe.#3344: @JustinXenyx what's the next upgrade I should go for? I'm rocking a 2200g on a B450 board with 2x4gb of 3200mhz ram and a 2gb 960. Abe.#3344: I'm thinking CPU but idk JustinXenyx#8854: @Abe. definitely the graphics card JustinXenyx#8854: Then CPU or RAM Abe.#3344: Really? Abe.#3344: What do you recommend? JustinXenyx#8854: 2GB 960 fucking sucks for today really JustinXenyx#8854: RX570 lol Abe.#3344: I'm running a 1080p 60hz panel btw JustinXenyx#8854: RX570 is perfect for most 1080p stuff rn SanteRaptor#2609: ive made the front able to push air trough itself faster than the back fan does, also ive tried that before butthe air below the gpu just didnt go anywhere leading to temps rise quickly Abe.#3344: What graphics card would last the longest in terms of being useable for games? My whole build is upgradability centred, so if I'm buying something I would like it to last a while. Abe.#3344: Would a Rx580 be better? Abe.#3344: Or are they too similar in power? JustinXenyx#8854: RX570 and 580 are pretty similar, the 570 is a lot more attractive for the price though
Abe.#3344: What's the Nvidia equivalent? Abe.#3344: I use moonlight a lot JustinXenyx#8854: GTX1060 6GB Abe.#3344: Even though I'm an AMD fan boy Abe.#3344: Ok Ty! JustinXenyx#8854: Don't you dare buy a 1060 though, they're still way too much JustinXenyx#8854: especially the 3GB variant JustinXenyx#8854: 1070's and 1070Ti's are hella cheap though for what they are Abe.#3344: I'm gonna work at a Pc Repair/hardware selling store after GCSEs, I could probably get a decent deal Abe.#3344: Less money for hardware lmao sajanator3#3333: I mean I'd have to save up another £30 for that SanteRaptor#2609: (also i hot glued one fan to the air tunnel thing so i cant go back if i wanted to) Abe.#3344: @sajanator3 better to wait and buy something good and worth it rather than spending fast and wasting money. sajanator3#3333: Would be r3 2200g be better than a e5 2689 sajanator3#3333: I see
Abe.#3344: Yes, I think JustinXenyx#8854: For gaming? Fuck yeah Abe.#3344: In my experience it's pretty good JustinXenyx#8854: These Xeons are majorly fucked for gaming because they're really limited with IPC TheFifthAce#4128: isnt that e5 TheFifthAce#4128: sandy sajanator3#3333: Would that come with a CPU cooler Abe.#3344: Yes TheFifthAce#4128: zen+ fucks up sandy TheFifthAce#4128: :dAB: SanteRaptor#2609: so if i dont touch the other fans, what way would be better for the gpu temps with the yellow one? sajanator3#3333: So I'll just have to save up £30 more Abe.#3344: It comes with the Amd Stealth, which is pretty good Abe.#3344: Allows a bit of overclocking. sajanator3#3333: I cba with OCing
Abe.#3344: It's not difficult sajanator3#3333: As long as it's around 3ghz Abe.#3344: Lmao Abe.#3344: Base is like 3.5ghz Abe.#3344: Boosts to 3.7ghz Abe.#3344: I do recommend getting a B450 or at least B350 mobo Abe.#3344: A320 won't allow much upgradability and is just generally not great SanteRaptor#2609: i think Justin went away... SanteRaptor#2609: oh JustinXenyx#8854: If that's currently the best fan config you've got a back intake isn't gonna do much, because it's just gonna cool the CPU further instead of the GPU SanteRaptor#2609: my thought process was like maybe it could add additional pressure towards the front of the thibg SanteRaptor#2609: how would you tryto improve the airflow ftom the gpu? SanteRaptor#2609: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627595646819631154/20190928_195503.jpg SanteRaptor#2609: the card is a strix rx 570 4gb JustinXenyx#8854: Hold on a minute, is that front an really a intel boxed cooler fan strapped onto another fan?
SanteRaptor#2609: yes JustinXenyx#8854: That's retarded SanteRaptor#2609: i needed a case fan cobtrolled trough bios and a fan controlled by the gpu and that was the last 4 pin thing i had SanteRaptor#2609: i took the idea ftom the pemtium d sleeper i got a while back for free SanteRaptor#2609: also yes SanteRaptor#2609: im probably retarded SanteRaptor#2609: but it fit so nicely in the tube SanteRaptor#2609: how do i unretard this? JustinXenyx#8854: Invest like 10-15€ into some arctic fans lol JustinXenyx#8854: They're really solid budget fans SanteRaptor#2609: i have arctic fans SanteRaptor#2609: its just that those are 120mm JustinXenyx#8854: The thing with the front fans is that one of them is blowing for no reason and you could easily remove one of them while having the same airflow SanteRaptor#2609: and 3 pin SanteRaptor#2609: which obe?
SanteRaptor#2609: obe SanteRaptor#2609: one JustinXenyx#8854: the Intel one SanteRaptor#2609: the logic was that the intel fan would push air constantly to keep air moving as the "gpu" fan starts once the gpu is like 50C JustinXenyx#8854: You could just have that other one running constantly though SanteRaptor#2609: wait no SanteRaptor#2609: the intel one got loud JustinXenyx#8854: lol SanteRaptor#2609: okay SanteRaptor#2609: what now SanteRaptor#2609: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627599192549752852/20190928_231441.jpg SanteRaptor#2609: this was the previous tube https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627599632045965312/20190928_231627.jpg SanteRaptor#2609: also SanteRaptor#2609: i doubt you want to know what the cpu is JustinXenyx#8854: 200GE, i already know it lol
SanteRaptor#2609: okay good SanteRaptor#2609: and you know its ocd by 400mhz and is using a am2 cooler SanteRaptor#2609: AND has mounting points for a secobd fan SanteRaptor#2609: what do i do now Justin to further unfuck this thinf JustinXenyx#8854: remove that ungodly plastic tube from the front fan SanteRaptor#2609: but why JustinXenyx#8854: It doesn't really do anything good SanteRaptor#2609: better? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627600696014798863/20190928_232048.jpg JustinXenyx#8854: yup SanteRaptor#2609: what now JustinXenyx#8854: How's the front panel looking? sajanator3#3333: £12.67 22%OFF | SNOWMAN CPU Cooler Master 5 Direct Contact Heatpipes freeze Tower Cooling System CPU Cooling Fan with PWM Fans https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/nJndSPEu sajanator3#3333: I've heard this cooler is really good SanteRaptor#2609: front panel?
sajanator3#3333: From tech YES city JustinXenyx#8854: @SanteRaptor that plastic thing on the front JustinXenyx#8854: Because if removed that could improve front airflow, which could make the front fan more usable as an intake fan SanteRaptor#2609: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627601204221968440/20190928_232238.jpg SanteRaptor#2609: its high https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627601253647646732/20190928_232248.jpg JustinXenyx#8854: It's alright, but requires a bit more work with thermal paste to achieve the best temps possible @sajanator3 JustinXenyx#8854: Ouch, that plastic is blocking any air from getting in or out lol @SanteRaptor SanteRaptor#2609: actually its not JustinXenyx#8854: If removing it isn't an option, drill some holes into it SanteRaptor#2609: better? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627601835011866635/20190928_232527.jpg JustinXenyx#8854: lol JustinXenyx#8854: Not much of an improvement, but an improvement anyway SanteRaptor#2609: it has holes at the bottom that allow air to pass quickly https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627602338823012392/20190928_232648.jpg JustinXenyx#8854: Those holes don't do much for airflow though SanteRaptor#2609: thats why i had 2 fans, pressure
SanteRaptor#2609: they passed air trough quite fast SanteRaptor#2609: so fast i gave tge case legs to allow more air to pass trough JustinXenyx#8854: That's not too bad then (the case feet thing i mean) SanteRaptor#2609: so whar now JustinXenyx#8854: Do a test run with temps now and let me know how they are SanteRaptor#2609: furmark and p95? SanteRaptor#2609: cpu is at around 63C and gpu.... oh man, its 80-81 SanteRaptor#2609: its actually 1C higher than before SanteRaptor#2609: 82C SanteRaptor#2609: Juuuuuuustiiin SanteRaptor#2609: 83 SanteRaptor#2609: cpu is at 67.3 SanteRaptor#2609: @JustinXenyx hjälp JustinXenyx#8854: 1C differences are margins of error, really JustinXenyx#8854: So you're at basically the same temps as before?
SanteRaptor#2609: at the end it was 3C above TheFifthAce#4128: should I just say fuck it and buy a 2070 super instead of a 5700 xt SanteRaptor#2609: before it was 79-80 TheFifthAce#4128: the drivers for the 5700 xt are just so shite SanteRaptor#2609: oh man SanteRaptor#2609: gpu is now at 85C SanteRaptor#2609: 86 SanteRaptor#2609: justin i dont think 86C is healthy SanteRaptor#2609: 87 Lady Mipha#0611: 😳 Lady Mipha#0611: That’s not good JustinXenyx#8854: Hold on JustinXenyx#8854: take off the side panel JustinXenyx#8854: That's gonna improve temps a LOT SanteRaptor#2609: you are aware that im building this pc from an order? not for personal use
SanteRaptor#2609: 78C JustinXenyx#8854: Yikes JustinXenyx#8854: I wouldn't sell a PC with that power supply to be honest SanteRaptor#2609: it has a 2 year warranty SanteRaptor#2609: and its way better than my other units SanteRaptor#2609: also the system takrs like 240w SanteRaptor#2609: and thats 350w SanteRaptor#2609: so Justin SanteRaptor#2609: how do i unfuck this from its current fucked state SanteRaptor#2609: also why is your "less fucked" idea better if the temps are 8C more than before it JustinXenyx#8854: There's a lot less bullshit do deal with SanteRaptor#2609: theres also a lot less to deal with if the system is ded SanteRaptor#2609: jk love ye JustinXenyx#8854: lol JustinXenyx#8854: How are the fans configured? Still front outtake, side intake and back intake?
SanteRaptor#2609: back outtake as you told me to keep ut like that JustinXenyx#8854: Alright, how about the use the front one as an intake now? SanteRaptor#2609: okay sure, wait a minute SanteRaptor#2609: done SanteRaptor#2609: how shall we set the fan curve? TheFifthAce#4128: ma x SanteRaptor#2609: no thats loud JustinXenyx#8854: Set it to full and adjust it accordingly SanteRaptor#2609: done SanteRaptor#2609: reaches max at 76C SanteRaptor#2609: wait no SanteRaptor#2609: wrobg one SanteRaptor#2609: 41C? SanteRaptor#2609: done SanteRaptor#2609: what now
SanteRaptor#2609: Justin? JustinXenyx#8854: Well, are they better, worse or the same as before? SanteRaptor#2609: they are performing at the exact same level as my front outtake system SanteRaptor#2609: aka 79-80 JustinXenyx#8854: That's pretty decent considering we removed one fan and the plastic tube SanteRaptor#2609: its quite loud though, but i can optimise that tomorrow JustinXenyx#8854: I'd bet with some better fans the temperatures could also be improved by 5-10C SanteRaptor#2609: probably SanteRaptor#2609: but rn im already at a loss of 300€ so i cant buy fancy noctua fans JustinXenyx#8854: You don't need fancy fans JustinXenyx#8854: even some 3-4€ 80mm arctic fans are gonna improve your temps SanteRaptor#2609: but those areusually 3 pin? JustinXenyx#8854: You can get them in 4 pin variants SanteRaptor#2609: also the pc gets picked up on tuesday so unless my local tech shop can get them i cant use em Abe.#3344: Need help with Ryzen Dram calculator
TheFifthAce#4128: wym Abe.#3344: When I click "R - XMP" to import the timings, it just says "Error, Coming soon" and it won't even let me manually type in the timings. Abe.#3344: So I can't do anything. Abe.#3344: Ok now I can type stuff manually but I don't know all the values Abe.#3344: Where do I find the RCDRD, RFC, RRDS and RRDL? Xbox 360 1953#2640: Should I get TCSunBow X3 or L5 Lite 3D Xbox 360 1953#2640: L5 lite 3d is like four bucks more TheFifthAce#4128: l5 lite 3d is better Deinsti#5907: What the fuck have you done to that CPU socket Lady Mipha#0611: ^ Deinsti#5907: Yea Deinsti#5907: But how did you get it so damaged in the first place Lady Mipha#0611: ^ Deinsti#5907: Just because you can fix it doesn't mean you weren't the person who broke them in the first place Deinsti#5907: :FeelsRetardedMan:
SanteRaptor#2609: oi Justin @JustinXenyx , i have another question related to the airflow SanteRaptor#2609: theres this grill in the sidepanel, so my question is should i install a 120mm fan to it and what way should it push if i were to install it? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627843444735213568/20190929_152347.jpg SanteRaptor#2609: im guessing Justin is unavailable so whatabout @Deinsti Deinsti#5907: Heyup Deinsti#5907: What way you should install in depends on some factors Deinsti#5907: Does the case have any fans already installed? SanteRaptor#2609: 2, obe at the back and one in the front SanteRaptor#2609: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627844869007867914/20190929_123010.jpg Deinsti#5907: Aah so you have it like that Deinsti#5907: I guess you can; wouldn't make as much of a difference but if you want to - then I would say outwards Deinsti#5907: Judging by the grill position it would work better in union with the back fan to extract the air so it would slightly improve circulation SanteRaptor#2609: okay, im asking because the 2 fans are connected to system temo and that cools down way too slow compared to gpu and cpu temps Deinsti#5907: In that case my statement stands Deinsti#5907: An outward blowing fan would be alright Deinsti#5907: Would pull the hot air faster out of the case and help with temps
SanteRaptor#2609: problem though SanteRaptor#2609: the last 3 pin connector in the machine is in the gpu Deinsti#5907: No fan headers left? SanteRaptor#2609: atleast if ive read the manual correctly Deinsti#5907: If you don't have any left, you could try and get a molex to fan adapter Deinsti#5907: https://www.amazon.com/CRJ-4-Pin-Molex-Sleeved-Adapter/dp/B07DPXR8KS/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3PPXU5Q3O6FXH&keywords=molex+to+fan+adapter&qid=1569760726&sprefix=molex+to+fan%2Caps%2C230&sr=8-3 Deinsti#5907: something like this SanteRaptor#2609: could i mod a 3 pin fan to molex myself or is that not recommended? Deinsti#5907: I wouldn't recommend it SanteRaptor#2609: okay SanteRaptor#2609: and connecting to gpu is not an option? Deinsti#5907: Soldering things together in a PC can have weird side effects Deinsti#5907: As in connecting the fan to the gpu's fan header? SanteRaptor#2609: it has a 4 pin ex fan slot at the back SanteRaptor#2609: strix 570 4gb
SanteRaptor#2609: *rx 570 Deinsti#5907: Your fan is 3 pin? SanteRaptor#2609: yes SanteRaptor#2609: unless i steal one from my main rig Deinsti#5907: It won't work, apparently the connector on the GPU needs a 4 pin fan to function SanteRaptor#2609: so do i steal one from main machine? Deinsti#5907: That or get the molex adapter SanteRaptor#2609: OR SanteRaptor#2609: do i use my 200ge stocl cooler fan instead? Deinsti#5907: as in remove it from the heatsink? Deinsti#5907: @SanteRaptor 200GE Cooler fan is 70mm, too small SanteRaptor#2609: hmmmm SanteRaptor#2609: where did you read that it needs a 4 pin fan @Deinsti? Deinsti#5907: https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/fans-on-asus-strix-rx460-4gb.2843140/ Deinsti#5907: https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/asus-rog-strix-rx-570-4gb-w-chassis-4-pin-fan-connector.2563365/
SanteRaptor#2609: umm Deinsti#5907: First one is RX460, but the Fan header tech is similar so SanteRaptor#2609: at 65C the fan started spinning JustinXenyx#8854: @Deinsti Soldering only causes issues if done improperly/if its a major hackjob Deinsti#5907: I would still consider it risky and a source of headaches if something does go wrong JustinXenyx#8854: That is true lol SanteRaptor#2609: it go spinny https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627852925527654400/20190929_160256.jpg JustinXenyx#8854: Also, a major problem with molex is that you'll usually have the fan blasting at a full 100% Deinsti#5907: That depends on the fan Deinsti#5907: I used to have a molex to fan header adapter with a case fan and it ran at more 60% speed SanteRaptor#2609: Justin you lovely individual, does thus fan work even though its 3 pin? JustinXenyx#8854: Where will you be connecting the fan? on the 570? SanteRaptor#2609: yes SanteRaptor#2609: its currently connected to it JustinXenyx#8854: Will work, but no PWM control
JustinXenyx#8854: I use 2pin fans on my GTX660 rn lol Deinsti#5907: Interesting Deinsti#5907: I've actually had a mobo refuse to power up a 3 pin fan connected to a 4 pin SanteRaptor#2609: frick SanteRaptor#2609: the side wouldnt close with the fan in Deinsti#5907: Collides with the GPU? SanteRaptor#2609: the thicc af front panel cables and the 24 pin cable Perms 🎃🎃#3092: Is anyone good with TVs Perms 🎃🎃#3092: Ignore my name Perms 🎃🎃#3092: @ me if you like you rlly know TVs and shit Perms 🎃🎃#3092: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627875040225918979/video0.mov Perms 🎃🎃#3092: Is my tv image burned? Abe.#3344: Anyone good with Linux? Impish#5173: what processor could be in here? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627877599904923648/unknown.png Impish#5173: by the like stock cooler
MythologicalZ#3752: Looks like some old gen APU Galilool#3398: looks a bit like the stock cooler on the athlon 64 MythologicalZ#3752: 3.0 boost is probably some usb marketing thing so it can't be that old JustinXenyx#8854: @Impish A8 6500 lol JustinXenyx#8854: That's 100% the cooler you get with Bulldozer APUs sajanator3#3333: @JustinXenyx is a Rx 470 better than a r9 290x MythologicalZ#3752: Same performance ball park MythologicalZ#3752: But the 290x draws way more JustinXenyx#8854: but a decent amount more power efficient, better drivers etc MythologicalZ#3752: Drivers between AMD cards are all essentially the same MythologicalZ#3752: Apart from the current 5700 memes sajanator3#3333: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627894938322862080/Screenshot_2019-09-29-16-50-10-046_com.ebay.mobile.png sajanator3#3333: So like I'm aiming to get it for £70? sajanator3#3333: Is that too much to pay for that? MythologicalZ#3752: That's fine
JustinXenyx#8854: 70 quid is what you should pay for a decent 470 SussyBalls#4615: How do you guys value individual components that you got from a bundle? JustinXenyx#8854: money spent / amount of items i got JustinXenyx#8854: that's the simplest way SussyBalls#4615: seen that method, easy and simple but perhaps a little inaccurate in some cases JustinXenyx#8854: You can also base it on relative part value. Search up what the part goes for, recalculate that into percentage and then recalculate with your current price SanteRaptor#2609: oi Justin, is there any place in this case where a gpu connected 200ge stock cooler fan would be useful https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627905692287631370/20190929_123010.jpg JustinXenyx#8854: Not really SanteRaptor#2609: okay, whatabout even kinda? SanteRaptor#2609: also have you seen my custom frontpanel ports? JustinXenyx#8854: Don't think so SanteRaptor#2609: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627906728205352971/20190923_214419.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627906729262186516/20190923_214425.jpg Exomilav#5434: :Oof: SanteRaptor#2609: it works and doesnt look incredibly horrid JustinXenyx#8854: Oh that's kinda smart hiding it like that
SanteRaptor#2609: thank you SanteRaptor#2609: do you have any last minute ideas about how to improve this build? MythologicalZ#3752: I'd redo the cables MythologicalZ#3752: Then zip tie them together SanteRaptor#2609: the white cables cant be moved SanteRaptor#2609: i need shorter sata cables SanteRaptor#2609: or SanteRaptor#2609: i can steal them from other pcs SanteRaptor#2609: slowly getting there https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627915555566911519/20190929_201147.jpg MythologicalZ#3752: Looks way better SanteRaptor#2609: thank you DarknessFalls229#2286: dat ROG strap though SanteRaptor#2609: i have a second one if you want me to put that in too DarknessFalls229#2286: sure why not SanteRaptor#2609: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627917669278154832/20190929_201959.jpg
DarknessFalls229#2286: gnise JustinXenyx#8854: second one is unnecessary lol SanteRaptor#2609: question, why do some sata power cables have a extra wire going trough them and some dont? DarknessFalls229#2286: thats the 3.3v line JustinXenyx#8854: You mean like the ones with 4 wires and then 5 wires? SanteRaptor#2609: yes DarknessFalls229#2286: cheapo connectors dont have them DarknessFalls229#2286: or molex adapters JustinXenyx#8854: Sometimes it's skipped to cut on wires, or gets skipped because 3.3V aren't needed SanteRaptor#2609: okay DarknessFalls229#2286: so usually you do want that voltage line SanteRaptor#2609: i just hid the one line without it on the top dvd drive case DarknessFalls229#2286: sounds good SanteRaptor#2609: any other ideas about making this seem nicer? DarknessFalls229#2286: try to tuck the cables as far back as they can
DarknessFalls229#2286: id also recommend to route the CPU power cable above the CPU cooler right below the PSU so it doesnt go across the Motherboard DarknessFalls229#2286: but its aesthetic anyway SanteRaptor#2609: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627920164368810002/20190929_203021.jpg SanteRaptor#2609: oh SanteRaptor#2609: right below psu SanteRaptor#2609: sorry DarknessFalls229#2286: kinda like this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627920532209270844/unknown.png DarknessFalls229#2286: but dont bother if you want to lose more zipties SanteRaptor#2609: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627920829426171914/20190929_203259.jpg DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah i guess thats good DarknessFalls229#2286: as i dont see any mounting holes above the mobo SanteRaptor#2609: yep SanteRaptor#2609: anything else? DarknessFalls229#2286: cant really see any improvements SanteRaptor#2609: what about programs?
DarknessFalls229#2286: wdym? SanteRaptor#2609: preinstalled software DarknessFalls229#2286: just remove any preloaded games DarknessFalls229#2286: or just folllow one of those 'optimise windows 10' videos SanteRaptor#2609: thank you for helping me DarknessFalls and Justin DarknessFalls229#2286: no problem, just giving my 2 cents sajanator3#3333: I payed £72 DarknessFalls229#2286: for what, if i may ask? SanteRaptor#2609: the gpu sajanator3#3333: @DarknessFalls229#2286 rx 470 4gb sajanator3#3333: @DarknessFalls229 DarknessFalls229#2286: sounds pretty good SanteRaptor#2609: also SanteRaptor#2609: i moved from the big speaker to the smol speaker so that also helps with how it looks DarknessFalls229#2286: cool stuff
sajanator3#3333: https://youtu.be/vnLR4qZG5yA sajanator3#3333: Uhh the r9 290 seems better than the Rx 470.... sajanator3#3333: Would it be enough of an upgrade from the hd 7970? DarknessFalls229#2286: tested with an fx 8320? DarknessFalls229#2286: hmmmm JustinXenyx#8854: ^ JustinXenyx#8854: that's pretty sketch in itself DarknessFalls229#2286: also, 290 power hungry and space heater JustinXenyx#8854: + Be careful with those YT benching videos JustinXenyx#8854: Some of them show artificial or fake results sajanator3#3333: Oh ok BigPierogi#3368: russian wapted#6788: ye lot of those just bullshit some numbers for the sake of getting some viewers sajanator3#3333: Would getting a ryzen 5 1400 for £50 be a better idea than the r3 2200g JustinXenyx#8854: Definitely, considering you aren't/wouldn't be using the integrated graphics of the 2200g
SussyBalls#4615: the 2200g also uses the original zen cores iirc so you'd only loose performance by going with a non ht chip SussyBalls#4615: not zen+, just original zen https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/627951277296320525/unknown.png SussyBalls#4615: so i did remember correctly, nice TheFifthAce#4128: + the 2200g is a single ccx TheFifthAce#4128: while the 1400 is dual ccx TheFifthAce#4128: so it has double the cache TheFifthAce#4128: so the 1400 is a way better idea sajanator3#3333: How do you package up a motherboard sajanator3#3333: Like I know you get an antistatic bag thing sajanator3#3333: But what else Exomilav#5434: I have an issue with my CPU not being detected by mobo then being detected when I turn my PC off and on again. I think it's an issue with B450 Tomahawk BIOS but it could be something else Exomilav#5434: I have BIOS version 7C02v18 on the Tomahawk SuSSudio#2688: Destroys CSL-X in performance, power consumption, & heat. https://youtu.be/HuLsrr79-Pw TheFifthAce#4128: ye
miklos_akos#1999: And does it cost less? @SuSSudio miklos_akos#1999: Haven't watched the video SuSSudio#2688: @miklos_akos Way less, around $4K cheaper than a single 8280 Platinum miklos_akos#1999: That's a big price difference Galilool#3398: and outperforms a dual setup with those cpus SuSSudio#2688: hell even a dual 8280 stands no chance against a single 7742 miklos_akos#1999: Intel fucked it up **again** SuSSudio#2688: they're fucked up since zen 2 came miklos_akos#1999: I remember when JayzTwoCents had an i7-7980xe (i always mess up the model) and the cpu overheated with his watercooling miklos_akos#1999: The heat spreader wasn't flat Zombiekiller5072#6447: Oof miklos_akos#1999: https://youtu.be/EALCvMxvLyA miklos_akos#1999: Here's the video in question miklos_akos#1999: I think that's unacceptable from a company miklos_akos#1999: He just used sandpaper to fix it
miklos_akos#1999: Lmao SuSSudio#2688: well what'd you expect from a continually refreshed old architecture SuSSudio#2688: 14nm is one of the underlying problem miklos_akos#1999: Intel should redo their chip fab like how AMD did Zombiekiller5072#6447: Dat architecture is shite. SuSSudio#2688: AMD works with TSMC for their zen manufacturing SuSSudio#2688: AMD is fabless currently miklos_akos#1999: The engineering sample ryzen killed the i7-6700 Zombiekiller5072#6447: *I wish I had gotten a Skylake series cpu and not Kabylake. My cpu is a hot boi.* miklos_akos#1999: Try using some sandpaper to flatten the heatspreader @Zombiekiller5072 Zombiekiller5072#6447: *I don't have any sandpaper and I donxt have extra thermal paste on hand to replace it.* Galilool#3398: Huh? Didn't Skylake have the same heat issues? Zombiekiller5072#6447: Maybe I can try deliding it and replacing the shitty stuff Intel used. SuSSudio#2688: Skylake was the last 'big change' for the Core architecture & was clocked lower than its successors Zombiekiller5072#6447: *it 200Mhz lower then Kabylake.*
SuSSudio#2688: Intel only raised few percentages since skylake in architectural improvements, most percentages comes from extra cores & higher frequency SuSSudio#2688: So Skylake > Skylake tweak > skylake tweak 2 > skylake tweak 3 (CFL-R) Zombiekiller5072#6447: Yeah. JustinXenyx#8854: @miklos_akos Intel generally needs a new architecture. All their stuff starting with Sandy Bridge is affected by some issue (Be it Meltdown, Spectre or anything else) and since Sandy there was no big architectural change JustinXenyx#8854: Even their 10nm arch is going to be based on that old architecture Zombiekiller5072#6447: *They just need to go to AMD to get that new architecture. Or just pull their heads out of their asses and release 10nm or even 7nm.* JustinXenyx#8854: Again, 10nm is still going to based on what is basically Sandy Bridge. While Sandy is a good architecture, it has a lot of modern security flaws that are related to the architecture itself and those security flaws are something that as far as i know, aren't fixable without a major architectural redesign Zombiekiller5072#6447: Eh fair. I know I should probably just go to Ryzen soon, but my 7700K hasn't let me down yet so J'm constantly holding back doing that and just upgrading my gpu. *I plan on getting a 2070 Super in the next few months.* Zombiekiller5072#6447: *I still don't know if that's a good idea for me or not.* JustinXenyx#8854: I wanted to upgrade at around christmas, but i'm being forced to sooner than i want, because my X79 board is as dead as a rock Zombiekiller5072#6447: Oof. JustinXenyx#8854: Also, i'd rather upgrade your CPU than the GPU, 4 cores with 8 threads are starting to die out in the gaming sector, pairing that with a 2070 Super is sub-optimal IMO Zombiekiller5072#6447: I was like, 'Do I get a 2070 Super, or upgrade to Ryzen 3rd gen?' Zombiekiller5072#6447: Also, *I do have the cpu oc'ed to 5Ghz just so you know.* JustinXenyx#8854: I think the Pentium G3258 (overclockable Haswell dualcore) proved well enough, that high clock speeds can't compensate for a lack of cores lol
Zombiekiller5072#6447: I mean, my cpu hasn't limited me in anyway so far. SuSSudio#2688: The key is, stage up when your quad core cpu starts to show signs of processing struggle in upcoming games Zombiekiller5072#6447: That's my plan. Zombiekiller5072#6447: Only time I can see my cpu struggle is when I play Arma 3. But I expect that since it's not really a well optimized game, and I use like, 30+ mods. But even then when I start to stuggle to get at 30fps my cpu is only being like %70 used. And my gpu is being like %50 used. SuSSudio#2688: yeah it's still usable Zombiekiller5072#6447: Yeah. Nothing is really taxing it reallt hard just yet. I think I still got a few more years left on it. SanteRaptor#2609: i mean my sis has a 6600k and that boi is running games more than well enough SuSSudio#2688: what games does she play Galilool#3398: candy crush:Hahahahaha: Alcyone#2233: per core performance is the same at equalized clocks for all the lake arch, mature process has just improved the clock ceiling. unless its stuttering I would just keep the 7700k BigPierogi#3368: @Galilool what cpu does she have Galilool#3398: no idea, i was just making a candy crush joke BigPierogi#3368: o BigPierogi#3368: im retardsed Galilool#3398: my brother though. he is expecting to run beat saber on his notebook with 7500u and mx150
BigPierogi#3368: b BigPierogi#3368: r BigPierogi#3368: u BigPierogi#3368: h BigPierogi#3368: my 6300u doesnt even run csgo that well BigPierogi#3368: but that could be due to intel hd shit Galilool#3398: even though it already struggles on my other brothers' pc with i5 4690 and 1060 3g Galilool#3398: my PC with r2600 and rx580 was the only pc in our home that could handle it BigPierogi#3368: THe nUmbEr iS hiGhEr So iT muSt bE beTeR Galilool#3398: now it'll probably run even better on my 5700XT BigPierogi#3368: not probably BigPierogi#3368: will Galilool#3398: the 580 already hit 90 fps but got hot enough to make some bratwurst Alcyone#2233: if you have a low power apu or are using intel hd, try limiting max cpu usage in windows power settings to 99%. My old laptop would hit power limit and throttle both cpu+igp. 99% stopped it from hitting max turbo and the igp stayed at max clockspeed netting more fps TheGeekster#8508: That's actually a pretty clever idea :Smart:
Galilool#3398: on my thinkpad t430 with i5 3320m and hd 4000 bith of them run at max speeds (3,3 ghz cpu and 1,3 ghz gpu) and it still couldn't run anything since windows decided to block one core for the OS Galilool#3398: switched to linux and boom- everything ran better kittycat959#2895: @Galilool commit gentoo, you know you want to Galilool#3398: oh god Galilool#3398: no kittycat959#2895: :GWfroggerHyperXD: Galilool#3398: manjaro forever Galilool#3398: or lubuntu kittycat959#2895: i prefer my os to be stable so its Debian for me kittycat959#2895: well i actually run windows because it works kittycat959#2895: but i run debian on my slow laptops Galilool#3398: lubuntu is as stable as the dome of cologne kittycat959#2895: true kittycat959#2895: i like mx linux Galilool#3398: I use lubuntu even on more powerful machines as it's very resource-friendly and easy to use
BigPierogi#3368: lubuntu is used for old xp machines BigPierogi#3368: if you still wanna use them BigPierogi#3368: or if grandpa stil lwants to Galilool#3398: i use my thinkpad for writing primarily and run lubuntu off of an ssd. booted up in 5 seconds kittycat959#2895: i run windows 10 on my t480s Galilool#3398: it definitely is able to run win10, I just don't like windows/microsoft in general Galilool#3398: kind of ironic, considering I use win10 on my main rig kittycat959#2895: then again gaming kittycat959#2895: windows 10 is just easier for games Galilool#3398: but will probably do a manjaro KDE dual boot soon kittycat959#2895: give mx a go, its super fast Galilool#3398: Manjaro isn't far away from win10 anymore Galilool#3398: especially with AMD hardware Galilool#3398: which I use kittycat959#2895: ive had all amd since 2014 in my main rig
Galilool#3398: you settled for AMD in 2014? Poor person... kittycat959#2895: @Galilool thats correct, i was in year 7, not allowed to buy used and wanted to play minecraft kittycat959#2895: rig did me well and got me into enthusiast computing Galilool#3398: what you got now? kittycat959#2895: r7 1700 kittycat959#2895: and 16gb of trident z rgb Galilool#3398: GPU? kittycat959#2895: r9 380 Galilool#3398: wow. Galilool#3398: *slow clap* kittycat959#2895: why a slow clap? Galilool#3398: ryzen 1700. an 8-core workstation CPU paired with a r9 380 kittycat959#2895: yes because i dont need gpu performance..... kittycat959#2895: i game at 1080p kittycat959#2895: and use my pc mostly for blender
Galilool#3398: I also game at 1080p. But the Blender argument is kind of good. kittycat959#2895: and yes i know about open cl kittycat959#2895: i mean does csgo really need a new gpu? kittycat959#2895: all my games are at high / ultra kittycat959#2895: even battlefield 5 runs at high with ultra textures @Galilool BigPierogi#3368: csgo likes cpus more BigPierogi#3368: than gpus BigPierogi#3368: like it depends more on the cpu kittycat959#2895: yeah ik, ik Galilool#3398: i actually used a r9 380 for a few weeks waiting for my Xt to arrive. I don't want to use that card ever again. kittycat959#2895: was it 2gb @Galilool kittycat959#2895: cause mine is a 4gb 380x Galilool#3398: I used the 4 gb one kittycat959#2895: must have had bad drivers or something kittycat959#2895: mine runs most stuff at high or ultra
Gamefreak924#5901: anyone know troubleshooting with installing Windows on macOS via bootable flash drive? Trying to boot the flash drive under the boot screen (alt during startup) and each time I select EFI, which should be the boot media, it just freezes for a minute and then boots into the macOS sign in screen. miklos_akos#1999: Did you try using bootcamp? Dumb question ik @Gamefreak924 MacRick#3873: Are the GTX 1060 6Gb or RX 580 8 gb still worth it? JustinXenyx#8854: 1060? Fuck no Lady Mipha#0611: ^ JustinXenyx#8854: RX580? Maybe, but the RX570 is usually much better priced with only a sight performance hit, which is MORE than acceptable for the price difference MacRick#3873: What about the 1660 / 1660ti? JustinXenyx#8854: 1660Ti > 1660 JustinXenyx#8854: the price difference between them just doesn't justify buying a 1660 JustinXenyx#8854: And the price difference will get even closer the older the cards get, similar with how it has been with the 750 and 750Ti or the 1050 and 1050Ti Lady Mipha#0611: ^^ MacRick#3873: thanks for the info! Gamefreak924#5901: If a laptop (XPS L501x) won't boot with anything other than 2GB in one memory slot, should it be assumed that there is something wrong with the memory controller? JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah, but keep in mind the memory controller is in the CPU, not the laptop Gamefreak924#5901: thank youu
JustinXenyx#8854: Also, is it a specific slot, or does it work on every slot with a 2gb ram stick? @Gamefreak924 Gamefreak924#5901: Works on either. One 2GB stick it seems JustinXenyx#8854: odd Exomilav#5434: I have an issue with my CPU not being detected by mobo then being detected when I turn my PC off and on again. I think it's an issue with B450 Tomahawk BIOS but it could be something else I have BIOS version 7C02v18 on the Tomahawk miklos_akos#1999: @Gamefreak924 do you have any other RAMs to test it out? Gamefreak924#5901: Yeah other sticks were tried miklos_akos#1999: Weird Gamefreak924#5901: Yeah, no worries though BlandishlyPlain#2100: i think windows just broke my audio driver with an update BlandishlyPlain#2100: https://gyazo.com/b0e3950b1c2972baf805b1ff14e06230 BlandishlyPlain#2100: well no audio for me today boys BlandishlyPlain#2100: @ me if you know a fix plz JustinXenyx#8854: It looks like you're running the stock windows audio driver JustinXenyx#8854: Maybe try installing your device specific audio driver?
BlandishlyPlain#2100: that maybe a bit of a problem but BlandishlyPlain#2100: i can try and find it SuSSudio#2688: @Gamefreak924 It says there the min. memory is 2GB, goes all the way up to 8GB, now the question is, which cpu does the laptop run in your variant? Also what is your current BIOS version? The latest version of the BIOS is the A08 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/628718678787227648/Screenshot_20191002-052116.png Gamefreak924#5901: uH Gamefreak924#5901: I didn't expect this much support because this was help with a laptop at my workplace >__>' Gamefreak924#5901: It was an i7 2nd gen I think Exomilav#5434: :nibbawhat2: Exomilav#5434: I have an issue with my CPU not being detected by mobo then being detected when I turn my PC off and on again. I think it's an issue with B450 Tomahawk BIOS but it could be something else I have BIOS version 7C02v18 on the Tomahawk TheFifthAce#4128: >tomahawk TheFifthAce#4128: :kok: TheFifthAce#4128: 3rd gen on msi, especially b450, is a nightmare
Exomilav#5434: :Oof: Exomilav#5434: lmao i've only heard the Tomahawk being good as a BIOS update then use 3rd gen board Exomilav#5434: what other boards were there TheFifthAce#4128: asus TheFifthAce#4128: msi boards had countless issues with bricking, boost clocks, etc Exomilav#5434: i think i have the boost clock issue Exomilav#5434: and the not detected and detected issue TheFifthAce#4128: asus boards had the best luck with bios updates Exomilav#5434: asus is asus tho Exomilav#5434: :Hahahahaha: TheFifthAce#4128: overpriced for a reason Exomilav#5434: VRM meme (not really applicable to the 3600 but what ever) and expensive Exomilav#5434: @TheFifthAce oh also no other B450 boards besides MSi had BIOS flashback, which was a big factor for me because i had no 2nd gen Ryzen chip TheFifthAce#4128: asus TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/628818044285616129/unknown.png
Exomilav#5434: premium meme boards tho Exomilav#5434: so B450 Tomahawk was pretty much my only option except Gaming Pro Carbon and X470 M7 JustinXenyx#8854: Now i'm really happy that i'm buying a Crosshair VI Hero :Hahaha: JustinXenyx#8854: Also, i might just try a reflash with a newer (or older) bios to check if your current bios is just meming around @Exomilav SuSSudio#2688: :DickPick: Exomilav#5434: :Bruhh: Exomilav#5434: :TheGoods: Exomilav#5434: @JustinXenyx the one I have is the first one that supports Ryzen 3rd gen Alcyone#2233: :dAB: SussyBalls#4615: holy shit and i was happy about my z68, i7 2600 (non k, sad), 8gb, cooler + z97p with unknown haswell, 8gb and stock cooler for 100 euros shipped SussyBalls#4615: the seller just described it as a "small" cpu, maybe a 3258 considering the z97 JustinXenyx#8854: Those G3258s sadly go for a lot more money than they should Alcyone#2233: 2600 non k can still set +400mhz above default turbo+ bclk a bit, so its not a total loss JustinXenyx#8854: I wanted to get one to OC but they're all almost original retail price
SussyBalls#4615: yeah some retard about 20km from me is trying to sell one for 66 dollars SussyBalls#4615: (g3258) TheFifthAce#4128: I got a p67 extreme4 gen3, 2500k, 8gb 1866, along with a 570 amp, full athlon 64 system, etc for 20$ SussyBalls#4615: holy shit TheFifthAce#4128: sold the board, cpu, and ram, next day for 140$ TheFifthAce#4128: :kok: Alcyone#2233: https://i.imgur.com/kxvW58kh.jpg asrockgang SussyBalls#4615: @JustinXenyx this is "somewhat" cheap https://www.ebay.com/itm/G3258K-G3260-pentium-lga-1150-4-gen-hashwell-intel-cpu-3-3ghz-SBLOCCATO/264448152302?hash=item3d925692ee:g:k9gAAOSw3YBdVnpB JustinXenyx#8854: that listing is a bit too sketch for me @SussyBalls Galilool#3398: hashwell, maybe you get a gram with it SussyBalls#4615: perhaps but buyer protection should do its job SussyBalls#4615: regarding buyer protection i completely forgot about some fan splitter i ordered in early august SussyBalls#4615: has not arrived yet SussyBalls#4615: uhmm bruh? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/629009083185496084/unknown.png JustinXenyx#8854: uh
JustinXenyx#8854: i'd claim a instant refund SussyBalls#4615: hm not the first time somebody has not received https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/629012415786385438/unknown.png SussyBalls#4615: Just going to get a refund, I sold the computer that I needed a fan adapter for anyways and it's such a niche product too Deinsti#5907: @SussyBalls Whose's the seller? SussyBalls#4615: 3c-base SussyBalls#4615: also got 2 sata to 6 pin adapters from a seller called mangosorange that has not arrived either, both were ordered on the same date SussyBalls#4615: refunded both Deinsti#5907: oof miklos_akos#1999: So uh, my PSU died (my PC won't even power on) and I need a replacement PSU Is thid a good pick? (I literally have enough for that PSU and shipping) https://www.pcx.hu/chieftec-iarena-500w-gpc-500s-oem-tapegyseg-900669 TheFifthAce#4128: chieftec literal garbage TheFifthAce#4128: @miklos_akos give me a link to your used websites TheFifthAce#4128: and budget DarknessFalls229#2286: oh boy
TheFifthAce#4128: woh wait TheFifthAce#4128: waot waiwa tawit DarknessFalls229#2286: when i right clicked the image to see it in aseparate tab i noticed, 'send to SM _XXXX' TheFifthAce#4128: that iarena isnt as bad as I remember but still shit! TheFifthAce#4128: max 400w output because overvoltage meme TheFifthAce#4128: :kok: DarknessFalls229#2286: i right clicked that and now someone got sent that page of the PSU TheFifthAce#4128: send a link to local used market sites TheFifthAce#4128: I will find good psu miklos_akos#1999: The only hardware related marketplace is https://hardverapro.hu miklos_akos#1999: https://vatera.hu barely has any used PC stuff TheFifthAce#4128: whats the word for power supply in your langauge miklos_akos#1999: tápegység miklos_akos#1999: And the problem is that I have 40€ in total (~13k HUF) miklos_akos#1999: Which means I need to pay for the PSU and shipping in one go with that money
TheFifthAce#4128: what are you trying to power DarknessFalls229#2286: dunno about your market but for 50 euro including shipping i got a 1200 watt PSU miklos_akos#1999: A Q9400 with 3HDDs an ODD and like in a week a 1050Ti @TheFifthAce TheFifthAce#4128: lol TheFifthAce#4128: so then you only need like 350w DarknessFalls229#2286: 300 watt is minimum for you id say miklos_akos#1999: The 420W one couldn't power the Q9400 DarknessFalls229#2286: go find some cheap FSP 500 watt thing or something miklos_akos#1999: I had to underclock lol TheFifthAce#4128: sounds like you had a shitty psu DarknessFalls229#2286: what PSU was it? TheFifthAce#4128: 420w is a weird number DarknessFalls229#2286: ^ TheFifthAce#4128: sounds like they couldnt make 450w and had to go "haha 420 weed number buy it" TheFifthAce#4128: anyways
TheFifthAce#4128: https://hardverapro.hu/apro/elado_minosegi_tapegysegek_tisztan_atnezve_hibatla_14/hsz_1-50.html TheFifthAce#4128: either of the be quiets would be fine TheFifthAce#4128: they're 350w FSP units, one of them is bronze TheFifthAce#4128: it says 7000 TheFifthAce#4128: idk if thats in budget TheFifthAce#4128: how much is 7000 miklos_akos#1999: An LC-Power LC420H-12 @DarknessFalls229 TheFifthAce#4128: LOL TheFifthAce#4128: LC power literal garbage DarknessFalls229#2286: that might be why it failed then miklos_akos#1999: Never had any problems with it for around 10 years JustinXenyx#8854: LC Power are as much bullshit as possible TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/629024068787765288/unknown.png TheFifthAce#4128: HUNTKEY TheFifthAce#4128: HUNTKEyHUNTKEyHUNTKEyHUNTKEyHUNTKEyHUNTKEyHUNTKEyHUNTKEyHUNTKEyHUNTKEy
TheFifthAce#4128: LMAO DarknessFalls229#2286: @miklos_akos what did you power it with in those 10 years? TheFifthAce#4128: MAX 180W ON THE 12v TheFifthAce#4128: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: DarknessFalls229#2286: :Hahahahaha: TheFifthAce#4128: no wonder it died under the q9400 TheFifthAce#4128: thats max 180w under ideal 80+ efficiency TheFifthAce#4128: and I bet it has like 50% efficiency TheFifthAce#4128: :kok: miklos_akos#1999: @DarknessFalls229 Celeron E3400, ATi Radeon HD5450, 1HDD and an ODD TheFifthAce#4128: lol miklos_akos#1999: But it took 2 HDDs like a champ TheFifthAce#4128: celeron draws like 30w TheFifthAce#4128: hdds aren't on the 12v TheFifthAce#4128: lmao
JustinXenyx#8854: I bet i could design a better PSU with my limited engineering skills TheFifthAce#4128: but yeah TheFifthAce#4128: https://hardverapro.hu/apro/elado_minosegi_tapegysegek_tisztan_atnezve_hibatla_14/hsz_1-50.html DarknessFalls229#2286: WHOA TWO HDDS? TheFifthAce#4128: these be quiet units TheFifthAce#4128: are good TheFifthAce#4128: 350w 80+ bronze FSP miklos_akos#1999: I may actually have an FSP unit lol TheFifthAce#4128: fsp time! miklos_akos#1999: I have to check my old PC at my grandparents TheFifthAce#4128: sparkle power is also fsp DarknessFalls229#2286: aint gonna be a problem fot that PSU if the whole system draws like 80 watt Tinybox#9112: Soo, I got an SSD here I want to get data from it. Can I slap it in an external case>usb
And grab data from there? TheFifthAce#4128: yes miklos_akos#1999: @Tinybox yes JustinXenyx#8854: Not speed efficient but it works @Tinybox DarknessFalls229#2286: i dunnooo... ive had problems with that before miklos_akos#1999: I also plan on overclocking the Q9400 because why not DarknessFalls229#2286: but might just have been me DarknessFalls229#2286: hmmm, overclocking Tinybox#9112: k thanks DarknessFalls229#2286: might want a lil bit more than 350 then TheFifthAce#4128: yorkfield succs power miklos_akos#1999: If my memory is correct then the 1050 Ti's recommended power supply wasn't 350W, it was more TheFifthAce#4128: 1050 ti draws 75w DarknessFalls229#2286: ^ TheFifthAce#4128: ignore the stupid fucking reccomended power
TheFifthAce#4128: and do math DarknessFalls229#2286: maybe max 85 JustinXenyx#8854: recommended wattages are pretty much bullshit DarknessFalls229#2286: with 6pin miklos_akos#1999: I checked the recommended PSU, it's 300W TheFifthAce#4128: NGEQUIOPPNeqkiuobngqhkleb ke TheFifthAce#4128: IGNORE TheFifthAce#4128: RECCOMENDED Tinybox#9112: can't a pcie slot supply a max of 75w (EARLY RX all over again), while a 6 pin can supply 75w as well. And the 8 pin 150w? miklos_akos#1999: Calm down DarknessFalls229#2286: recommended PSU is pretty much there so they dont get sued, if your lower wattage garbage blows up TheFifthAce#4128: @Tinybox doesn't mean it'll draw more power lol JustinXenyx#8854: @Tinybox That's if we go according to official spec TheFifthAce#4128: it's still not a very high power gpu
TheFifthAce#4128: 85-100w is about as much as I'd expect from a 6 pin 1050 ti JustinXenyx#8854: 6 pin is basically the same as a 8 pin except 2 more ground connections, so a 6 pin can draw 150W aswell (and even more) Tinybox#9112: ah okay DarknessFalls229#2286: well miklos_akos#1999: Iirc my dad's old 1050Ti gets the juice from the PCI-e bus TheFifthAce#4128: yes miklos_akos#1999: But don't count me on that DarknessFalls229#2286: one pin on the 6pin is sense, and one 12v pin is unoccupied TheFifthAce#4128: majority of 1050 tis are pcie only DarknessFalls229#2286: so 6pin is kinda like a 4 pin with a sense plug miklos_akos#1999: If I have a 300-350W PSU in my old PC, I could reuse that DarknessFalls229#2286: IF its a good brand miklos_akos#1999: It's a barely used FSP PSU DarknessFalls229#2286: oh nice DarknessFalls229#2286: FSP good boy
TheFifthAce#4128: send a pic of the side for me whenever you do TheFifthAce#4128: need to look at the currents miklos_akos#1999: @TheFifthAce that won't happen until tomorrow or so (it's 8:45PM here) TheFifthAce#4128: ok so send me a pic tomorrow then lol TheFifthAce#4128: post in here and tag TheFifthAce#4128: do not dm TheFifthAce#4128: :kogaSmug: miklos_akos#1999: Okay miklos_akos#1999: Also I have an old FSP PSU which is 300W DarknessFalls229#2286: just tag us DarknessFalls229#2286: although im not the most knowledgable on PSUs DarknessFalls229#2286: 300 is a bit on the low side on wattage DarknessFalls229#2286: 350 is acceptable miklos_akos#1999: The one I have next to me is an FSP300-60BT miklos_akos#1999: It has 6 molex connectors, 2 floppy connectors, 20pin motherboard and 4pin CPU
DarknessFalls229#2286: looks like another 180 watt on the 12v rail DarknessFalls229#2286: might not fully power your system DarknessFalls229#2286: though it should if you dont overclock TheFifthAce#4128: I am good at psus TheFifthAce#4128: :UwU: miklos_akos#1999: I have a better one at my grandparents, I use this to troubleshoot pcs miklos_akos#1999: It has 6 molex connectors miklos_akos#1999: So no sata baby TheFifthAce#4128: 11a on the 12v TheFifthAce#4128: thats a yikes from me captain DarknessFalls229#2286: said 15A for me DarknessFalls229#2286: but still yikes TheFifthAce#4128: 15a is more usable miklos_akos#1999: This is an old PSU smh TheFifthAce#4128: I'd advise a minimum of 18a tho
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah, 2nd that miklos_akos#1999: And I just could test my pc out if shit is fried or not DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah miklos_akos#1999: Since I can't plug my sata hdd in DarknessFalls229#2286: if your PSU blows, first thing you wanna do is check if the rest is alive DarknessFalls229#2286: knowing from actual experience DarknessFalls229#2286: not a good one though SussyBalls#4615: Also make sure your board is not dead to the point it's frying anything you put into it DarknessFalls229#2286: barebones it first miklos_akos#1999: Fucking shit is only 20pin TheFifthAce#4128: lol TheFifthAce#4128: dont touch it TheFifthAce#4128: probably actually 11a lmao DarknessFalls229#2286: hearing that, yeah miklos_akos#1999: The only 24 pins I have are codegens