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Jam#0384: I have used a relatively new version of Firefox with a Pentium 4 fine
DarknessFalls229#2286: linus tryna repair a CPU like https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/674730962751455242/unknown.png
BigPierogi#3368: i could do soemthing like they did
BigPierogi#3368: with that 2700x i have
BigPierogi#3368: but im kinda scared to beucase i might damage my mb
tdp2612#3835: @Clode
tdp2612#3835: im late
tdp2612#3835: but yeah firefox is pretty light, plus if youre on a shit pc chances are youre on an older os which firefox will inevitably be the last to support
Jam#0384: Why was it dipped in ketchup
tdp2612#3835: because its a *chip*
tdp2612#3835: https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-punchline-gif-7320811
TheGeekster#8508: That should be bannable, but it's so bad, it's past the bannable level
Lady Mipha#0611: :Hahahahaha:
tdp2612#3835: :Itsthebanker:
EightMegsAndConstantlySwapping#7022: This is the greatest argument for eugenics that I've ever been privy to. |
Lady Mipha#0611: At least the cpu wasn’t *chipped* past the point of no return
Jam#0384: Silence
Tinybox#9112: yeet
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I want to unlock the bootloader on my Nokia 8, but the option here is grayed out what do I do? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/674773999221342210/Screenshot_20200206-002656.png
Tinybox#9112: I feel like I should change my disc name
Tinybox#9112: I'm tired of being bullied with tinydick by humans >of the likes of @JustinXenyx
Or getting random "tinydickos" messages on steam, (why did I name myself tinyduckos?)
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @wiryfuture🦀 Looked around on the XDA page for it yet?
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I repasted it after finding some extra paste and the temps are lookin good
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia-8/how-to/unofficial-official-nokia-8-bootloader-t3898418
Racey#8574: Probably only works for international versions
Racey#8574: Like what Samsung did with the Galaxy S6 series
wiryfuture🦀#1706: @Charlie Foxtrot I tried taking it back to 8 but it gave me no option other than to select a wifi network and update
SuSSudio#2688: Alright this is how the thermal paste looks post 100c torture i did over the past few days https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/675012227073572874/IMG_20200206_231347.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/675012227568238597/IMG_20200206_231534.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/675012227941793832/IMG_20200206_231546.jpg
JustinXenyx#8854: i can tell it got to 100c lol |
SuSSudio#2688: Could it possibly be degraded electrically like someone told me in another discord? @JustinXenyx
SuSSudio#2688: No user OC/OV done during the torture
JustinXenyx#8854: nah, you'd have to torture it for long to degrade noticeably
JustinXenyx#8854: given the age of this card it wouldn't make much of a difference anyway
Little Billy#3065: what kind of cheap gpu should i pair with my i5 2400 it would be user for a little while until i get a better cpu currently i have a gtx650ti laying around is that an ok option
TheFifthAce#4128: 650 ti is fine but weak
TheFifthAce#4128: you can match up to like an rx 570/1060 to the i5
tdp2612#3835: i wouldnt go that far
tdp2612#3835: 1060 3gb will be bottlenecked, but a 1050ti would likely be a bottleneck
JustinXenyx#8854: @tdp2612 reread that message
tdp2612#3835: what about it
tdp2612#3835: i know he said he has a 650ti
JustinXenyx#8854: i mean your message
JustinXenyx#8854: something's not right there
tdp2612#3835: im pretty sure a 1050ti is less powerful than a 1060 3gb |
tdp2612#3835: or am i clapped
JustinXenyx#8854: > 1060 3gb **will be bottlenecked**, but a 1050ti **would likely be a bottleneck**
JustinXenyx#8854: do you see it now
tdp2612#3835: no
tdp2612#3835: i know a 1060 would definitely be held back
tdp2612#3835: im unsure how bad the 1050ti will limit the i5
JustinXenyx#8854: you're saying the 1060 3GB gets bottlenecked, but the 1050Ti will be a bottleneck aswell
tdp2612#3835: wut
JustinXenyx#8854: @tdp2612 You're saying both are gonna be a bottleneck
tdp2612#3835: no im not
Little Billy#3065: i am going to upgrade the cpu and motherboard before getting the gtx1650
tdp2612#3835: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/675100443373993985/unknown.png
tdp2612#3835: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/675100477788127242/unknown.png
BigPierogi#3368: .
tdp2612#3835: o dear |
tdp2612#3835: dont get a 1650
Little Billy#3065: im upgrading an dell optiplex 990
TheFifthAce#4128: dont get a 1650
TheFifthAce#4128: bad value
tdp2612#3835: still
tdp2612#3835: theres better small cards out there
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Are there?
TheFifthAce#4128: is it even a low profile case
Little Billy#3065: gtx1050ti
TheFifthAce#4128: no
tdp2612#3835: 1050ti should outperform a 1650
tdp2612#3835: get the little msi one
TheFifthAce#4128: no
JustinXenyx#8854: 1650 wrecks a 1050Ti
TheFifthAce#4128: 1650 outperforms 1050 ti |
TheFifthAce#4128: you are very wrong
JustinXenyx#8854: 1650 is like a 1060 6GB
tdp2612#3835: nvm then :frobotmoment:
tdp2612#3835: nah im pretty sure its not
Little Billy#3065: isnt 1650 4gb
tdp2612#3835: i swear when i was looking when it first launched, it more looked like 1060 3gb at twice the used price
JustinXenyx#8854: @Little Billy It is, but the 1060 we are comparing it to has had multiple variants, all having different amounts of memory and processing cores depending on the version
BigPierogi#3368: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/675101285011423232/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: :linux:
tdp2612#3835: :frobotmoment:
Little Billy#3065: but im probably using the 650ti until i get a new motherboard,cpu and case because for now i just need to run school stuff and vscode
JustinXenyx#8854: Let's just say it like this: When you will need it you will know what you need
TheFifthAce#4128: so its not low profile then
TheFifthAce#4128: just get a psu for 30$ off ebay and a used rx 480 for 80$
Little Billy#3065: im getting a 1,5 year old 500w psu tomorrow from a friend for 15€ |
TheFifthAce#4128: please tell me the model number
TheFifthAce#4128: :crome:
BigPierogi#3368: it might be a "bomb" psu
TheFifthAce#4128: '500w psu's arent always actually rated for 500w
tdp2612#3835: inb4 ebay special
TheFifthAce#4128: especially if you're not in america
Little Billy#3065: it has worked for him with his gtx1050
TheFifthAce#4128: that means nothing
Little Billy#3065: i dont remember the model number
TheFifthAce#4128: "working" doesnt mean it's not a dangerous PSU
TheFifthAce#4128: do you know the brand?
Little Billy#3065: yeah
Little Billy#3065: evga
TheFifthAce#4128: is it a white
TheFifthAce#4128: a bronze |
TheFifthAce#4128: or a gold
Little Billy#3065: if i remember correctly
Little Billy#3065: dont know
tdp2612#3835: ehhhh i didnt think the really bad evgas were that bad
TheFifthAce#4128: @tdp2612 theyre extremely fucking bad
tdp2612#3835: theyre not quite bottom tier are they?
TheFifthAce#4128: please stop
TheFifthAce#4128: you dont know what you're talking about
TheFifthAce#4128: :crome:
tdp2612#3835: :epicgamer:
TheFifthAce#4128: they're only rated to output their rated wattage AT FUCKING 25C
TheFifthAce#4128: TWENTY FIVE
TheFifthAce#4128: THATS AMBIENT
Little Billy#3065: im searching the model number up tomorrow before i pay him
TheFifthAce#4128: @Little Billy if it's this one, don't touch it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/675102388339867729/unknown.png |
TheFifthAce#4128: bomb of a psu
TheFifthAce#4128: especially as temperatures go up
Little Billy#3065: ok
TheFifthAce#4128: if it's the bronze psus, they are meh except for the BT and BQ
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx JUSTIN
TheFifthAce#4128: I AM ANGRY
TheFifthAce#4128: evga white is rated at 25c
TheFifthAce#4128: 25c 25c 25c 25c 25c 25c 25c 25c 25c 25c
TheFifthAce#4128: how the FUCK do they get away with that
tdp2612#3835: https://tenor.com/view/thermometer-hot-degrees-temperature-heat-gif-7238178
TheFifthAce#4128: wat
BigPierogi#3368: tf is that
BigPierogi#3368: it stays at 50c
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/675102974649040896/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: JG gave it a 5.5 and OCP fucking failed it |
Little Billy#3065: but if we are talking bomb psu i got an old antec earthwatts 500w psu that i found in the basememt of my school
TheFifthAce#4128: antec earthwatts are really good
Little Billy#3065: 2008
TheFifthAce#4128: yes
BigPierogi#3368: so
TheFifthAce#4128: they are old but extremely good as long as it's not corroded
JustinXenyx#8854: 12 year old psu is a big yikes though
TheFifthAce#4128: no justin
TheFifthAce#4128: you dont understand how good EA is
JustinXenyx#8854: likely degraded a ton to age
TheFifthAce#4128: as long as its not degraded with like rust
TheFifthAce#4128: then they are great
JustinXenyx#8854: i know how rapidly components degrade with age and usage though, so there is that
TheFifthAce#4128: @BigPierogi earthwatts
Little Billy#3065: i woulndt stick it in and risk it fucking up everything |
BigPierogi#3368: shh
TheFifthAce#4128: @Little Billy dont stick an evga white in either
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx JUSTIN
TheFifthAce#4128: 25C
Xbox 360 1953#2640: What do you guys think about the thermaltake smart series?
TheFifthAce#4128: T W E N T Y F I V E
Little Billy#3065: yeah
JustinXenyx#8854: Absolute fucking garbage @Xbox 360 1953
Xbox 360 1953#2640: figured
TheFifthAce#4128: @Xbox 360 1953 all thermaltake PSUs under gold rated are bombs
TheFifthAce#4128: there aren't enough outliers to matter, just avoid
Xbox 360 1953#2640: My tech school had a thing where I had to make a list of parts along with some other guys
TheFifthAce#4128: they have a few silver psus that are nice
Xbox 360 1953#2640: had to convince them to not add the smart to it
TheFifthAce#4128: yeah smart is garbage |
Little Billy#3065: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/675103632613703730/JPEG_20200205_185405.jpg
TheFifthAce#4128: full tower
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx tempted to buy this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/675103685227053069/unknown.png
Little Billy#3065: this is the pc i use for the time being
tdp2612#3835: w i d e
Xbox 360 1953#2640: You need to make sure the psu that you do get isn't too long
Little Billy#3065: long bou
TheFifthAce#4128: @Xbox 360 1953 you just bend some metal out of the way
TheFifthAce#4128: its fine
Xbox 360 1953#2640: The psu will fit
JustinXenyx#8854: you'd make me ANGERY! since my R9 390 nitros will likely take a long time until i can properly fix them and i REALLY like that era of nitro cooler @TheFifthAce
Xbox 360 1953#2640: But you'd have to remove the latch
TheFifthAce#4128: thats why you screw it in
TheFifthAce#4128: :cromge:
Xbox 360 1953#2640: At least, I did on my optiplex |
Xbox 360 1953#2640: the latch for the side door i meant
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx it's replacing a gtx 950
TheFifthAce#4128: for 90$ I can't really think of anything else that powerful
JustinXenyx#8854: yeah i get it
Little Billy#3065: on my optiplex there should be no problem fitting a normal psu
TheFifthAce#4128: 100$ flat for a 980
JustinXenyx#8854: instant fucking buy
TheFifthAce#4128: wait really?
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah dude
TheFifthAce#4128: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ZOTAC-GeForce-GTX-980-GPU-AMP-Edition-4GB-PCI-E-Graphics-Card/283774051591?hash=item4212406507:g:wh8AAOSwEX1ePDPu
JustinXenyx#8854: ESPECIALLY YEAH DUDE
TheFifthAce#4128: its obviously mined on
JustinXenyx#8854: That's a solid fucking card
TheFifthAce#4128: but mining is fine
TheFifthAce#4128: really really? |
TheFifthAce#4128: like buy now price?
JustinXenyx#8854: like i'd buy 3 rn if i had the cash
TheFifthAce#4128: it doesnt seem to be a great price
TheFifthAce#4128: there are recently sellings of 980s for 95-100 I guess
Little Billy#3065: my brother bought a system with gtx1070ti and i7 1st gen and chieftec 750w psu 3 years agp for 300€
TheFifthAce#4128: thats a really good price
BigPierogi#3368: ssssssssssssss
Little Billy#3065: i know
TheFifthAce#4128: was it their nitro85+
TheFifthAce#4128: the 750w
TheFifthAce#4128: chieftec psus as long as they're rated are honestly fine
JustinXenyx#8854: wait nvm, same pcb across reference 980 aswell
TheFifthAce#4128: idk it's tempting to buy because thats a solid card for 100$
JustinXenyx#8854: yeah, it is a good card for 100 bucks
TheFifthAce#4128: 7551P is zen+ isnt it |
JustinXenyx#8854: it isn't
JustinXenyx#8854: launched mid 2017
TheFifthAce#4128: huh
TheFifthAce#4128: found one for 200$
JustinXenyx#8854: stupid discord, stop sending my messages before i want them to
JustinXenyx#8854: I mean, for 200 bucks and a 32C Zen chip you can't go wrong
JustinXenyx#8854: but proprietary EPYC mobo meme
TheFifthAce#4128: yeah thats the only thing keeping me from buying it and meming
BigPierogi#3368: i am felin toried
Galilool#3398: Anybody know this case? All I know is that it was made by InWin https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/675223732641464320/IMG_20200206_222524_386.jpg
tdp2612#3835: If noone works it out by the time i get home ill do some googling
Lady Mipha#0611: Found some info @Galilool
Lady Mipha#0611: https://www.performance-pcs.com/chassis/midtower-chassis/in-win-b2-bomber-atx-mid-tower-gaming-case-iw-b2-atx.html
Lady Mipha#0611: Some more about it https://www.newegg.com/black-in-win-stealth-bomber-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811108085
Galilool#3398: Nice, thanks a lot @Lady Mipha |
Little Billy#3065: someone said that this is a bomb so i guess its bomb time https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/675367186214289409/JPEG_20200207_174745.jpg
tdp2612#3835: yeah
tdp2612#3835: thats literally in garbage bomb tier in any psu list ever
Little Billy#3065: time to go to the US embassy
tdp2612#3835: did you pay him for it
Little Billy#3065: not yet
Little Billy#3065: i wanna see if it works
tdp2612#3835: just tell him youll get something else
Little Billy#3065: i need this
Little Billy#3065: i dont have money for a better one
tdp2612#3835: you dont
tdp2612#3835: as you may have worked out yesterday
tdp2612#3835: i know fuck all about psus
tdp2612#3835: but buying that for a pc thatll draw more than 300w is really pushing it
tdp2612#3835: if it runs at 350 day in day out youre gonna have fun |
tdp2612#3835: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ATX-Standard-Computer-PC-Case-Assembly-Kits-Acrylic-Transparent-DIY-Personalized/392505951895?_trkparms=aid%3D555021%26algo%3DPL.SIMRVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20190805154545%26meid%3Daf0055859e2c44e2a957aa17b99d097f%26pid%3D100037%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D16%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D184149879237%26itm%3D392505951895%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100037.m2107
tdp2612#3835: ok im a bit split, is this kinda cool or really fucking chintzy
Jam#0384: Bad
Jam#0384: And its acrylic
Jam#0384: Will scratch up
tdp2612#3835: nah i know its a terrible material
tdp2612#3835: but maybe if it was glass, just the idea of a seethrough pc
Little Billy#3065: cable managment is cool https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/675389159409451038/JPEG_20200207_191504.jpg
Lady Mipha#0611: @tdp2612 that would be nice but the pc would break 5 into making the panels
Lady Mipha#0611: (The glass ones)
Little Billy#3065: the intel 2400 combined with the gtx650ti runs gta benchmarks pretty well on normal settings
Little Billy#3065: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/675457447413940246/JPEG_20200207_204303.jpg
Little Billy#3065: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/675457478430949394/JPEG_20200207_204246.jpg
Jam#0384: Well no shit that game is only a year younger than those parts
Jam#0384: More or less |
Jam#0384: Just came out for PC a bit later
Jam#0384: bad
Jam#0384: r6 will outperform in most games now
Jam#0384: and upgrade path is more important there
Jam#0384: B450+8GB DDR4 + R6 1600 or 1600AF
Jam#0384: Skylake is in the same boat as All Intel 2-7 gen
Jam#0384: Once Sandy Bridge dies, all of them will slowly become pretty bad
Jam#0384: 4c8t is dying
Jam#0384: 4c4t is dying faster
MythologicalZ#3752: 4c/4t is arguably dead already
JustinXenyx#8854: nah, the r5 1600 is the far better pick @Deleted User
JustinXenyx#8854: the i5 is literally dead af, anything with 4 cores basically is now
JustinXenyx#8854: 4c/8t is still tolerable but also drying at a more rapid pace now
SuSSudio#2688: Alright so about the Cyclone R6850, i just did another repaste today with significantly more density (did it in X-pattern). Switched fan profile to performance. Fired up UH4 & took 4 loops test with each 2 test done with side panel on & another 2 with side panel off.
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Here's the results :
SuSSudio#2688: The first 2 loops with sidepanel on resulted in constantly raising temps (it went up to 93°C before i pop the side panel off).
Another 2 loops done with sidepanel off & the temps slowly wind down by about 7-8°C under the same load. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/675640763211579415/HWmonitortempsnew1.PNG
SuSSudio#2688: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/675640788725530634/UH4avgtemps1.png
tdp2612#3835: thats toasty
Deleted User#0000: Why not put an acellero on it?
JustinXenyx#8854: 93C is still so high my laptops 6970M doesn't even reach that
JustinXenyx#8854: and yes, the 6970m is the same as a 6850, just ever so slightly downclocked
JustinXenyx#8854: @Deleted User Not worth it like at all
SuSSudio#2688: It since stayed around 85-86°C with side panel off
Deleted User#0000: There's the mono acellero which is cheap and would be fine
SuSSudio#2688: cooler fans were spinning @ 3300rpm
JustinXenyx#8854: not cheap enough for this card though @Deleted User
Deleted User#0000: I'd pay it to be honest |
JustinXenyx#8854: To put it into more realistic terms, this is like a 10-15 quid card for us
Deleted User#0000: @SuSSudio what is your main pc specs
JustinXenyx#8854: Sure, not for him, but the cooler is still pretty expensive for a card like that
SuSSudio#2688: Not worth over the $33 i paid for the card alone
Deleted User#0000: Fair enough
SuSSudio#2688: @Deleted User C2Q Q9450, 4GB DDR3 1333mhz
Deleted User#0000: :hmst:
Deleted User#0000: @SuSSudio ill keep that in mind, I'm planning to do a giveaway in a month or two of a ryzen starter kit and I hope you will enter
SuSSudio#2688: i'm not from the UK though
SuSSudio#2688: good luck with postage if i ever get selected
Deleted User#0000: Postage isn't going to be an issue, if I have to pay more so be it
SuSSudio#2688: :JellyBeanFace:
Deleted User#0000: You're a good person dio so I will make an exception for you :roach:
JustinXenyx#8854: wait, where do you live again? Indonesia, right? @SuSSudio
SuSSudio#2688: yeah |
JustinXenyx#8854: Oh yeah josh you're gonna fucking cuck yourself if you ship to indonesia @Deleted User
JustinXenyx#8854: Shipping might even be more than the parts themselves
Deleted User#0000: Then I'll just buy him the mobo and cpu direct from Indonesia or send him enough money
SuSSudio#2688: Customs will add bruises to the injury, as they'd gonna charge me atleast 100s of $
Deleted User#0000: Yeah dw then, if you want to enter we can work something out if you win
Deleted User#0000: It's not till March tho, probably.
SuSSudio#2688: Well ok
thatubuntuguy#5914: Is regular 10 = 10 home
Deleted User#0000: @thatubuntuguy you select windows 10 first then it should give you options
Deleted User#0000: images of what youre seeing would be handy
thatubuntuguy#5914: i'll pm
Deinsti#5907: Simply put regular 10 is 10 home yes
Deleted User#0000: @Deinsti he was asking about the iso
Deleted User#0000: yknow how you choose the version during install now
Deleted User#0000: he didint know that was a thing |
Deleted User#0000: cause 7 did it with different ISOs
Deinsti#5907: Ye
Deinsti#5907: Also with the fact Windows 8 and 10 version naming slightly changed
DarknessFalls229#2286: and now contemplate why you bought a 3gb 1060 model
JustinXenyx#8854: not to bad, but the 1060 3GB is a bit worse than the 6GB one
DarknessFalls229#2286: ah
JustinXenyx#8854: you need 16GB of RAM to compensate for the lack of VRAM
DarknessFalls229#2286: always up for a flip
JustinXenyx#8854: you loose a decent bit of performance on 8GB of RAM
DarknessFalls229#2286: haha same
JustinXenyx#8854: no you actually loose performance
JustinXenyx#8854: that 3GB VRAM bugger fills up quite quickly
JustinXenyx#8854: even on 1080P you can sometimes expect like a 20-25% perf loss
JustinXenyx#8854: i know, but you gotta compensate with RAM for the loss in VRAM
Jam#0384: How is t a 50% increase |
JustinXenyx#8854: 16GB of DDR3 ain't that expensive tho
Jam#0384: DDR3 is dirt cheap
tdp2612#3835: slide down to :CeX:
tdp2612#3835: or your local equivaent
JustinXenyx#8854: he's in germany @tdp2612
JustinXenyx#8854: we don't have cex or a equivalent
JustinXenyx#8854: nah
Jam#0384: I had a 1060 3GB with 16GB of DDR3 2133
Jam#0384: It ran pretty good for what it was
Jam#0384: During the mining craze
JustinXenyx#8854: AUS prices are SO MUCH worse than ours
Jam#0384: I’m in the US and I can promise you theres nothing special here
JustinXenyx#8854: US prices match if you keep in mind our prices are adjusted slightly higher due to the tax
Jam#0384: It really just comes down to your local area used market
Jam#0384: Everything outside of that is luck, patience, and overpriced |
Jam#0384: Unfortunately my local area is dogshit
Jam#0384: And I’m in USA
Jam#0384: :haha:
Jam#0384: Mostly
Jam#0384: The thing is you just have to know where to look
MythologicalZ#3752: I'd say overall the US market is good
Jam#0384: Patience and persistence will get you a good deal
MythologicalZ#3752: Especially with the deals Newegg and whatever run
Jam#0384: The US market is good compared to many
Jam#0384: But its not the heaven others think
Jam#0384: Its still overpriced nonsense especislly used
Jam#0384: Hunting for stuff is the only way
DarknessFalls229#2286: for some reason 290s stopped dropping in price over here
Jam#0384: Nothing is dropping in prices here
Jam#0384: Only raising |
Jam#0384: GTX 480 is like $50-$100 now
DarknessFalls229#2286: like they went down to 70 euro, but now theyre still put up for 100+
Jam#0384: Idk what the hell happened
MythologicalZ#3752: Ram and SSD storage is going to rise
MythologicalZ#3752: Since haha virus
Jam#0384: Nice
Jam#0384: I had a dream where i cought virus
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Jam and did you run malwarebytes?
Jam#0384: :FeelsRetardedMan: :FeelsRetardedMan: :Bean:
Jam#0384: I meant irl
MythologicalZ#3752: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/675724045962182712/27540767_599015640437219_2158394151063290506_n.png
Jam#0384: Computers are pretty much never even in any dreams. Not that I dream all that much
DarknessFalls229#2286: cant your computer have a virus irl?
MythologicalZ#3752: Wild
MythologicalZ#3752: Probably could |
MythologicalZ#3752: Buy some ram off Ali
Jam#0384: Time to go on a date fellas
MythologicalZ#3752: Chinese seller sneezed on it or whatever
Jam#0384: Give her an r7 250
MythologicalZ#3752: Virus acquired
Jam#0384: $1000
Jam#0384: I just thought she meant something decen
Jam#0384: Nvm fellers
Jam#0384: I have hoes already
Jam#0384: This is exceeding the budget
JustinXenyx#8854: chinese sellers are all down rn it seems @MythologicalZ
MythologicalZ#3752: Doesn't surprise
Jam#0384: Wait really
Jam#0384: :(
Jam#0384: They should stop dying |
MythologicalZ#3752: Seen something in tyc about no imports or whatever
Jam#0384: Im going to import contained corona virus from china
Jam#0384: And release it at my school
Jam#0384: Some girl at my school had a strand of corona :epicgamer:
Jam#0384: Unfortunately its someone I know very well
Jam#0384: :frobot2: :frobot2: :frobot2:
MythologicalZ#3752: :epicgamer:
JustinXenyx#8854: they wouldn't, but they're being forced to do so @Deleted User
Jam#0384: :FeelsBadMan:
JustinXenyx#8854: China is taking this coronavirus thing very seriously, a lot of chinese businesses have shutdown for multiple weeks longer than chinese newyear
DarknessFalls229#2286: _tencent_
MythologicalZ#3752: Tim Sweeney catches Kung flu
Jam#0384: I catch mythological z
tdp2612#3835: :frobot2:
MythologicalZ#3752: What? |
MythologicalZ#3752: Tried doing 1063 to 1066?
DarknessFalls229#2286: he almost succeeded into downloading and flashing more ram
JustinXenyx#8854: lol nvidia does not allow those kinda flash mods @Deleted User
JustinXenyx#8854: they artificially lock them down to hell
Xbox 360 1953#2640: What would be a decentish gpu that could be gotten for 40ish bucks
JustinXenyx#8854: if we talk USD, which is what most people assume with bucks, i think you can get a 280x/7970 for that money
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Is that locally? Since the ones I see online tend to go for more Tham that
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah, assuming a regular used market of US/UK
Jam#0384: theres nothing locally where i am in USA
Xbox 360 1953#2640: The ones I see locally are also more expensive
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I might just go with a 750 off aliexpress
Galilool#3398: bad idea
Galilool#3398: graphics cards on aliexpress are a very bad idea
thatubuntuguy#5914: ^
Lady Mipha#0611: ^ |
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Lame
Xbox 360 1953#2640: All the 750s near me are overpriced
Galilool#3398: Yeah, and the 750s on aliexpress are 460s
JustinXenyx#8854: that is, depending on the card, very wrong @Galilool @Lady Mipha @thatubuntuguy
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Could probably get a 550ti for 40 but meh
JustinXenyx#8854: You can get legit cards on Ali
JustinXenyx#8854: You just have to look for them properly
Xbox 360 1953#2640: How would I do that?
Jam#0384: You can find legit 750Tis on ali
Jam#0384: Just know: what the actual prices are
Jam#0384: what an actual version of the card may look like
Jam#0384: and
Jam#0384: be smart
Jam#0384: fellas
Jam#0384: 750tis will almost never be $20 on a website like that in 2020 |
tdp2612#3835: is a samsung 850 still enough of a flex to mount nicely in my case
xxdy#7501: i need help
xxdy#7501: @Deinsti
xxdy#7501: i have an old bios for my asrock b350 mobo its on 1.3 and thare isnt a flash utilty
IRON MAIDEN#4184: I get 750tis for 30$
Deinsti#5907: @xxdy If it's a modern mobo (~~which it is~~) it won't have a flash utility, you need to put the BIOS file on a USB drive (preferably FAT32) and then update the BIOS from within the BIOS itself
xxdy#7501: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/676113848016830512/JPEG_20200208_200753.png
xxdy#7501: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/676114211817914368/unknown.png
xxdy#7501: u cant use a flash dive without instantflash (bios flash tool for asrock)
xxdy#7501: so how can i update without using the flash tool
Racey#8574: That looks high res damn
TheGeekster#8508: i'd suggest booting into windows, going to the asrock website and looking up how to do it from within windows, probably a simple exe you can run @xxdy
Gamefreak924#5901: If I am to get rid of one laptop, which should it be?
https://www.cnet.com/products/dell-inspiron-1525-laptop-computer-intel-pentium-dual-core-t2390-120gb-hdd-1gb-ram-series/ |
https://www.cnet.com/products/compaq-presario-v2602xt-14-mobile-sempron-3000-plus-win-xp-home-256-mb-ram-40-gb-hdd-series/
https://www.cnet.com/reviews/dell-inspiron-mini-10v-netbook-computer-intel-atom-n270-120gb-hdd-1gb-review/
Racey#8574: Inspiron Mini
Gamefreak924#5901: Just want to keep a couple around for random use cases like 90s-00s gaming
Racey#8574: God those are worthless
Gamefreak924#5901: And other junk
Gamefreak924#5901: The only thing the Mini has that's good is ultra portability and a webcam lol
Gamefreak924#5901: I plan on upgrading whatever I keep
Jam#0384: Get rid of the first one
TheFifthAce#4128: get rid of all of them
TheFifthAce#4128: :uwuPip:
Racey#8574: All of em are pretty useless
Racey#8574: I have like 2 Inspiron 1525s and I don't do anything with them
Gamefreak924#5901: :/
Gamefreak924#5901: This isn't helpful |
TheGeekster#8508: I mean the compaq is objectively the slower one out of the two
TheGeekster#8508: but this is kinda up to you what you want to keep
Illegal Immigrant#3366: Hey, does anyone know anything about playstation 2s?
Illegal Immigrant#3366: Specifically, slim models?
tdp2612#3835: yeah go on
tdp2612#3835: i know more about fats but i might be able to help
Illegal Immigrant#3366: Okay, so my ps2 has been broken for over 5 or 6 years now. at the time, i was incapable of even trying to fix it. Now adays, im more confident, so i cracked the old boy open, and found out that the laser drive wont even move when i boot it up, along with the disk motor not moving. I found black gunk, something Similar to a tar like substance inside. It all seems to be leading to i need to replace the disk drive, but i was hoping/pleading that its a fixable issue. Any ideas?
Illegal Immigrant#3366: May have pictures of the tar, atleast from what was visible from the disk place
tdp2612#3835: if its black and slightly sticky, it could be a belt from somewhere, or it could just be really dirty grease
tdp2612#3835: the ps1 is semi common for getting the motor not moving
tdp2612#3835: if you give it a decent amount of force, see if you can move the laser bit
Illegal Immigrant#3366: It was slightly sticky. And it coated the metal pole. The laser is movable, but it doesnt move by itself
tdp2612#3835: like just push/pull and see if it will move even a bit, but dont put so much force that it breaks
JustinXenyx#8854: Honestly, a PS2 disk drive is as cheap as piss
tdp2612#3835: yeah id possibly say a drive belt has died then |
Illegal Immigrant#3366: Ive seen that online, but i was hoping i could get to play some old games today. Sad
JustinXenyx#8854: I wouldn't bother trying to fix tech you don't have knowledge or experience in fixing, in the end you could just end up breaking it online
tdp2612#3835: and yeah theyre pretty easy to take apart
tdp2612#3835: even the best ones are still like 10 years old, so even if you fix one thing its just waiting until the next bit goes
JustinXenyx#8854: ^ exactly
tdp2612#3835: especially if the laser hasnt failed yet
JustinXenyx#8854: It's gonna go either way in the distant future
JustinXenyx#8854: And sure, we all gotta learn somehow, but i wouldn't expect the disc drive to be functional given you don't seem to have much experience with these types of tech failures and given the age of the console
Illegal Immigrant#3366: So i should invest in a replacement lazer drive? Or just look into a new console?
JustinXenyx#8854: I'd go with the replacement lazer drive route
JustinXenyx#8854: And i'd also look at potentially modding the console for loading games via USB
JustinXenyx#8854: Disk media is inevitably gonna die, we can't prevent that
tdp2612#3835: ehhh i wouldnt bother modding a slim, id rather use a fat
tdp2612#3835: considering usbs are still sort of expensive compared to putting in a hard drive
Illegal Immigrant#3366: I honestly only inherited this from my older sister, who got it from our older brother. Its actually the oldest model of slim, from what i can read |
JustinXenyx#8854: wym usbs @tdp2612
JustinXenyx#8854: I was referring to general loading via usb media, that involves usb hdds etc
tdp2612#3835: as in usb sticks
tdp2612#3835: i just like the idea of having a hdd in a fat honestly
tdp2612#3835: have the ultimate rig of freemcboot, hard drive, have a printer connected, racing wheel, gcon all at once
average chinese citizen 2#1119: i oc;d my 6700k to 4.5ghz and all went great with booting and benchmarks but the day after windows had to repair itself so i decided to dial back to stock
average chinese citizen 2#1119: how did this happen and how do i prevent this
JustinXenyx#8854: causes of windows repairing itself may have nothing to do with the overclock @average chinese citizen 2
JustinXenyx#8854: Could just be that it was fixing corrupted data
average chinese citizen 2#1119: yes
average chinese citizen 2#1119: maybe
average chinese citizen 2#1119: it came into repair mode
average chinese citizen 2#1119: so you think it was a coincidence?
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah, i think it wasn't related to the OC
JustinXenyx#8854: I'd maybe check the drive windows was installed on |
average chinese citizen 2#1119: well imma move drive in a week so ill do the overclock then
CaldeiraG#0496: Hai there, it's been a whil
So, I saw a ryzen 5 2400g for 90€ used but then I found a kit of RAM selling for 72€ (36 each) and plus a Max motherboard for 71€ both new
Is this any good? As I said, I've been struggling to find anything good xD
JustinXenyx#8854: Sounds a bit vague
JustinXenyx#8854: First, what type of RAM? Speed etc
JustinXenyx#8854: Second, what motherboard? Given it's a Max it very likely is MSI
MythologicalZ#3752: I wouldn't get a 2400G for 90 personally
MythologicalZ#3752: RAM depends on speed like above and it's probably some MSI b450 which is fine
CaldeiraG#0496: Ram is a Gskill Aegis 3000mhz and the MB is the mortar one
CaldeiraG#0496: Sorry I didn't include these lol
MythologicalZ#3752: Ram is fine,same for the board
MythologicalZ#3752: I would look for something like a 1600 though |
MythologicalZ#3752: Assuming you're getting a dedicated GPU
CaldeiraG#0496: I can look into it then
CaldeiraG#0496: Yeah I'll have a rx580 or a equivalent GTX
MythologicalZ#3752: Yeah R5 then
CaldeiraG#0496: Cool beans then
Bogi76#3090: equivalent GTX is GTX 1060
Sulphurite#3623: what do yall think about the i3-550?
JustinXenyx#8854: trash, wouldn't bother with it in 2020
Sulphurite#3623: im not sure should i throw it away or keep it for the likes of web browsing
JustinXenyx#8854: X3440 is a 4 core with 8 threads that is like 10 bucks or so
DarknessFalls229#2286: throwing away is wasted money
TheGeekster#8508: if you don't need it, burn it, first gen i's are just, awful man
TheGeekster#8508: (when i say burn i mean try and sell it, then get fed up and throw it)
DarknessFalls229#2286: do i need to burn my i7 860?
TheGeekster#8508: eh not as bad as a i3, but still, upgrade if possible |
JustinXenyx#8854: no that one is still usable, but not the i3s @DarknessFalls229
JustinXenyx#8854: they suffer a lot nowadays
DarknessFalls229#2286: Geekster said that "first gen i's are just, awful man"
Sulphurite#3623: I got like a motherboard and everything for it
JustinXenyx#8854: If you want to use that machine, consider using a X3440, basically a i7 but cheaper
DarknessFalls229#2286: what kinda mobo you got?
DarknessFalls229#2286: OEM, low end or good one?
TheGeekster#8508: I stand by that 🤔 same as core2quads, unless you have a reason for it, avoid it
Sulphurite#3623: just the most stock oem one, fujitsu i guess... and 2 sticks of 2gb kingston ddr3 1333mhz
DarknessFalls229#2286: oof
Sulphurite#3623: It is fucking old
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah, ittll be fine for some basic webbrowsing
DarknessFalls229#2286: but i wouldnt try to game on it
DarknessFalls229#2286: "fucking old"
DarknessFalls229#2286: heh |
Sulphurite#3623: too bad cause im gonna try that
DarknessFalls229#2286: tell that to my single core athlon 64 running windows 7 64 bit
DarknessFalls229#2286: and yes, i did try gaming
DarknessFalls229#2286: its awful except for this one game
DarknessFalls229#2286: somehow i was GPU bottlenecked
Sulphurite#3623: how?
DarknessFalls229#2286: REALLY REALLY low CPU usage on that game
Sulphurite#3623: Im gonna try to pair the i3-550 with a rx560 since im bored while i wait for my 1155 mobo to be shipped.
DarknessFalls229#2286: you do you mate
Sulphurite#3623: speaking of soc 1155, would a i5 3470 be okay for gaming?
DarknessFalls229#2286: sure
DarknessFalls229#2286: if it aint too modern
Sulphurite#3623: the i5 is similar to the likes of a coffee lake pentium, but with 2 more cores
DarknessFalls229#2286: that i5 is good for some midrange gaming
Sulphurite#3623: should i expect similar preformance? |
Sulphurite#3623: The pentium G5400 is the closest to the i5
Sulphurite#3623: In terms of preformance
JustinXenyx#8854: Nah, that i5 is similar to performance of a newer i3 with worse IPC
JustinXenyx#8854: Also, it has 2 cores more, but the G5400 has the same thread count as the i5
Sulphurite#3623: Oh, okay
Sulphurite#3623: But didint intel unlock hyperthreading on newer chips also? Like i3 or what not
JustinXenyx#8854: Nah, that was just leaks
JustinXenyx#8854: i3 is 4 core and i5 is 6 core since 8th generation, both without hyperthreading
tdp2612#3835: a 3470 will do you fine as long as you arent looking at brand new aaa at good settings
JustinXenyx#8854: i5 used to be 4 cores, Pentiums are now what the i3 used to be
tdp2612#3835: if you games library ends around 2016, youre set for medium/high at 1080 with a balanced gpu
Sulphurite#3623: i appreciate your input. cause i didn't know that
Sulphurite#3623: So, would a rx560/570 be the right choice for i5 3470 build?
tdp2612#3835: id say a 570 would be fine, but i wanna hear justins opinion on that
DarknessFalls229#2286: id say 570 too |
tdp2612#3835: 560 would probably limit it, but a 580 would be like mine where its bottlenecked massively by cpu
Sulphurite#3623: Nevermind
JustinXenyx#8854: 560 is overpriced often compared to the 570 to be fairly honest
JustinXenyx#8854: Nobody bothers with 560s anymore unless you already have one or when they are cheap
Deleted User#0000: only time id bother with a 560 is itx low power
Tinybox#9112: gtx 560 low power
Tinybox#9112: :DontgetDoneGetDom:
tdp2612#3835: :Itsthebanker:
Illegal Immigrant#3366: I took your advice, and ended up buying a ps2 fat
Illegal Immigrant#3366: Thank you for your advice
Sulphurite#3623: Back once again to ask about the i3-550, i ended up pairing it with a RX 560(2GB) and trying to play CSGO, HL2 and DOTA 2 at one point. All games i tested had the same problem; stuttering. Even though both the CPU and GPU werent pegged to the max there was still stuttering ,but all games had good avg. , min. and max. framerate. Nevertheless, the frametimes were awful and capping the framerate or lowering the settings would do nothing; lowering the settings in CSGO would yield in lower results. Replaced the RX 560(2GB) with a RX 570 and nothing changed. CPU is still not going over 40% utilization. Ended up using DDU to uninstall drivers for the gpu and reinstall, tried adding more RAM and it did almost nothing. All i request are your tips and opinions on this problem of mine.
JustinXenyx#8854: Since we know GPU and RAM are definitely not the problem i'd pin this on the CPU
JustinXenyx#8854: First gen Core i with only 2 cores and 4 threads really fucks you uü
TheGeekster#8508: CPU utilisation, 40%, so *roughly* accommodating for shitty hyperthreading, call it 70-80% real, I bet you 99p it's the i3 as Justin said
MythologicalZ#3752: What storage too |
MythologicalZ#3752: I've had old drives cause stuttering in source
MythologicalZ#3752: But likely the i3 as above
Sulphurite#3623: Kingston A400 120gb
TheGeekster#8508: eh it'll probably still be the CPU unfortunately, CSGO is now incredibly heavy to run compared to when it was released, it doesn't like older systems
MythologicalZ#3752: Oof ouch owie
MythologicalZ#3752: Drive is unreliable but the tendency is that the die before you have issues
MythologicalZ#3752: Though some low end phison drives start exhibiting issues when filled more than 50%
Sulphurite#3623: The drive has 80GB of free storage left, also the motherboard does not work in dc no matter the amount of ram i put in it
Sulphurite#3623: Well, what did i expect from a old i3 that was collecting dust in the closet.
SuSSudio#2688: True, CSGO has been demanding as of late, i used to get stable ~80fps now it often drops to 56-48fps before going back to 80s in certain maps, CPU is C2Q Q9450 @ 2.67ghz
JustinXenyx#8854: not to shame and all, but those channels are rarely trustworthy because haha fake benchmarking results and manipulation of the results
Sulphurite#3623: The framerate i got on the benchmark( CSGO) was a AVG : 103 , MIN : 78 , MAX : 115
SuSSudio#2688: There are like another 3 but different GPUs & upload time
Sulphurite#3623: Even though im getting good framerate, frametimes are ass, ending up with the game looking like a slideshow of gifs
SuSSudio#2688: I wish i could replicate the problem you stated, alas. i don't have the required components |
SuSSudio#2688: yeah i can relate that
DarknessFalls229#2286: How about those intel vulnerability patches? Are those worth anything?
JustinXenyx#8854: yeah they fuck performance aswell
Sulphurite#3623: The comp i used were
mobo : OEM( Fujitsu ) - SOC 1156
ram : kingston 4*2gb 1333mhz
cooler : EKL OEM
gpu : Sapphire RX560 2GB
ssd : kingston A400
psu : Corsair CX550
I was digging thru old stuff when i found the cpu on the mobo with the ram, decided to give it a try in 2020
Sulphurite#3623: Anyway, thank you for the help
Deleted User#0000: @Sulphurite just replace the cpu god damn
Deleted User#0000: Why don't you just buy a cheap xeon for 1156 and call it a day. |
Racey#8574: Xeon X3470s are one of the fastest CPUs for that socket and it's only like $10
Racey#8574: You get basically an i7-870 for a little less
xxdy#7501: Does anyone know how to bypass sse4.2 on a AMD phenom ii x2
JustinXenyx#8854: what @xxdy
JustinXenyx#8854: please elaborate further
xxdy#7501: My friend has an amd phenom ii x6 and he keeps getting a message saying that he can't play without sse4.2 saport
MythologicalZ#3752: Can't bypass an instruction set afaik
JustinXenyx#8854: nah, you can't bypass that
JustinXenyx#8854: his processor doesn't have sse4.2 which is why the game does not start
Deleted User#0000: @xxdy ^
Deleted User#0000: basically: get a better PC
Deleted User#0000: :KEKW:
Illegal Immigrant#3366: I got a new issue. Ps2 fat i bought spins disk for half second, then nothing. I presume i need to replace the lazer?
SanteRaptor#2609: oi lads, this isnt really as much of a tech related issue but you lads know airflow way better than me myself.
|
I have 2 10k rpm fans, 30mm in height and i need those 2 to blow air trough a ~3cm tube.
what would be the best way to set those 2 to blow more air trough that tube?
Clode#2428: Do you think an rx580 a ryzen 3 and 8gb of ram its a good deal for 450€?
tdp2612#3835: wdym ryzen 3
tdp2612#3835: do you mean like a 1200 or something
tdp2612#3835: or 3rd gen
Clode#2428: 2200g
tdp2612#3835: and is this usd or australian
Clode#2428: Euros
tdp2612#3835: and including motherboard?
tdp2612#3835: oh shit i cant read lul
Clode#2428: Yes
Clode#2428: And case and ps
Clode#2428: New
tdp2612#3835: ah its a full prebuilt |
Clode#2428: But it doesnt come with rx580
tdp2612#3835: i mean theres worse value for money pcs out there but i wouldnt pay it
tdp2612#3835: if they were asking 300 then 100%
Clode#2428: No they re asking 300 for these
tdp2612#3835: 350 i think would be reasonable, then i guess 450 is because youre paying for it being built
Clode#2428: But the rx is like 150 here
tdp2612#3835: 150 for a 580 seems reasonable
tdp2612#3835: thats near enough local prices converted
tdp2612#3835: although an rx580 is a massive card
tdp2612#3835: and chances are theyll give you a firestarter chinese psu
Clode#2428: I dont think so
Clode#2428: Its a very well known brand here
Clode#2428: Do you think i could get like better performance for the price?
tdp2612#3835: almost certainly
tdp2612#3835: espcially with only 8 gigs of ram, if you have a decent card like that 580 then 16 is really the least you should think of |
Clode#2428: True
Clode#2428: But idk maybe put more 8gigs later
Clode#2428: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/677619559506772062/Screenshot_20200213-210054_Instagram.jpg
JustinXenyx#8854: @SanteRaptor You can't stack fans to produce higher pressure, you could place both fans at the ends to pull air through the tube
JustinXenyx#8854: NO
JustinXenyx#8854: THAT SSD
JustinXenyx#8854: IT IS LITERALLY THE WORST
Clode#2428: Is it?
JustinXenyx#8854: Kingston A400, uses the Phison S11 controller
Clode#2428: Why?
JustinXenyx#8854: Which is known for failing SUPER quickly
Clode#2428: :/
TheGeekster#8508: Raid 0 Kingston a400's run my boot drive 😩
BigPierogi#3368: :sad_peter:
Clode#2428: But its a bad build overall? |
JustinXenyx#8854: if the picture is accurate that PSU is also quite terrible, case is acceptable for the price
tdp2612#3835: oi dont insult shit kingstons, i only just moved on from mine :frobotmoment:
SanteRaptor#2609: I know stacking is a big nope but whatabout a Y connector or something like that @JustinXenyx
JustinXenyx#8854: I think that could work, if you could have or make a Y shaped airduct @SanteRaptor
SanteRaptor#2609: i can make one
Sulphurite#3623: Fun fact, msi afterburner was the cause of the bad frametimes
Sulphurite#3623: Just removed it and everything is normal now
Sulphurite#3623: No stuttering
SanteRaptor#2609: Thank you Justin
Clode#2428: Thank you all
Alcyone#2233: that setup has an a320, 8gb 2400mhz ram, bad ssd, bad psu. for about $50 more you could build something with better parts.
mynameistak3n#6865: @jay1185 I have an athlon X2, Radeon R7 240 WD green for system and we blue 1tb for stuffs, win7 SP1 64 Bit
Bogi76#3090: should i get 2x8GB or 4x4GB?
JustinXenyx#8854: 2x8GB
JustinXenyx#8854: Because having 4 sticks just takes up unnecessary space while not offering any advantage |
JustinXenyx#8854: And to make it worse, the more sticks the have the worse your memory is gonna clock
Bogi76#3090: huh didn't knew about the last part
Bogi76#3090: huh looking at some benchmarks
Bogi76#3090: i see a minor fps gain
Bogi76#3090: *tho intel looks like wants more of quad channel than dual channel*
JustinXenyx#8854: the joke is
JustinXenyx#8854: Desktop chips do not have quad channel
JustinXenyx#8854: only HEDT and server chips have quad channel memory and up
TheFifthAce#4128: @Bogi76 you will not have quad channel with 4 dimms unless its hedt
TheFifthAce#4128: it will still be dual channel
Bogi76#3090: huuuuh
Bogi76#3090: so from what i understand
Bogi76#3090: the motherboard with 2 different colored ram channels on two sides of cpu is quad channel motherboard?
Bogi76#3090: right?
JustinXenyx#8854: Oh yeah that is quad channel |
Bogi76#3090: whew
Gamefreak924#5901: Is there a tutorial on the easiest way (that is free) to migrate from Windows 10 to Linux, and move Windows 10 to a vm?
Gamefreak924#5901: I've got too many programs and things I don't want to lose or reconfigure when migrating
Gamefreak924#5901: I also have three hard drives that all have windows programs on them :/
jay1185#0112: @mynameistak3n sorry about the delay. you had said the problem only happens with Steam downloads?
TheGeekster#8508: You'll have to use a P2V system, look up how to move physical to virtual, you'll need a lot of disk space depending what you've got iset up @Gamefreak924
TheGeekster#8508: (think image the windows knstall, turn it into a VM boot drive, then move it onto Linux)
JustinXenyx#8854: AKA: It's gonna take a long ass time to get your physical windows install moved into a VM
JustinXenyx#8854: It ain't just a simple partition clone that you drop into a VM
TheGeekster#8508: Pretty much not worth it tbh
JustinXenyx#8854: Also makes no sense because keep in mind, a VM probably is going to stuck more power because not only is the VM with windows running, linux is running aswell
JustinXenyx#8854: meaning your CPU usage will be higher across the board
Gamefreak924#5901: Guess I'll stick with Windows then
Ocelot#7239: Hello again
scelli#0001: Lmao |
scelli#0001: Alright
scelli#0001: So from the top, what problems are you having exactly? Fans not spinning?
Ocelot#7239: they're spinning i think speccy is jsut trash because afterburner says its idling around 30c
scelli#0001: Try using core temp, I’ll get you a link
scelli#0001: it shows more accurate temps in my usage
Ocelot#7239: excellent
Ocelot#7239: I mostly just use speccy to check my specs tbh lmao
Ocelot#7239: after running cinebench r15 to stress my cpu it maxed at 63c
Ocelot#7239: on afterburner
scelli#0001: https://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/ here, in the installer pay attention to what it installs as it puts a web link for a flash game on your desktop
scelli#0001: uncheck the box for the game
Ocelot#7239: yup that program confirms speccy is garbage
Ocelot#7239: idling around 33c
scelli#0001: If it susses you out a bit just check the file with virustotal to prove that it’s safe
scelli#0001: I use it a lot |
Ocelot#7239: ran r15 again and it maxed at 63c and under load the fans span up faster
scelli#0001: Yeah
scelli#0001: I think it’s just software problems
Ocelot#7239: nah if two programs give me the same results ill just disregard speccy
scelli#0001: Kk
Ocelot#7239: Im glad i thought of switching the fans off dc tho
Ocelot#7239: I also turned on smartfan . Idk much about setting custom curves
scelli#0001: Yeah pwm fans will eat dc ok but the motors make a humming sound on dc with my experience
Ocelot#7239: Can i dm you now and ask a few more questions later ? I wanna run some games and see how it preforms?
scelli#0001: Go ahead, but I’m probably gonna fall asleep in a bit as it’s a bit late
Ocelot#7239: tomorrow then 😄 thank you so mcuh !
scelli#0001: No worries
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/678120996028284949/image0.jpg
mi3night#2562: Can someone identify this model of HD4550
MythologicalZ#3752: You can read off the label what specs it has |
notinscale#9650: it says 1 gig of DDR2
notinscale#9650: and it has HDMI, DVI and VGA port
MythologicalZ#3752: If you need the bus type just plug into a PC
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Sapphire
MythologicalZ#3752: Run gpuz
notinscale#9650: or hardware info
Lady Mipha#0611: It’s sapphire @mi3night
Lady Mipha#0611: https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-hd-4550-100252-1gl/p/N82E16814102897
mi3night#2562: Ok
mi3night#2562: Alr tkx
Adrik Ivanov#3247: what do i need to root a samsung galaxy j5 model sm-j500h using android 5.1.1?
tdp2612#3835: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-j5/how-to/galaxy-j5-root-twrp-roms-news-tips-t3620892
tdp2612#3835: update to marshmallow first as basicalluy everything wants it
Adrik Ivanov#3247: > but i can't
tdp2612#3835: how can you not update it |
Adrik Ivanov#3247: sorry i can but i need more space
Adrik Ivanov#3247: i can update to android 6.0
Adrik Ivanov#3247: is it enough
mynameistak3n#6865: @jay1185 it might be the hdd, because it completed 50% of 7 gb game today
mynameistak3n#6865: I'm installing it on the 1tb I bought and no problems yet
mynameistak3n#6865: @scelli also this is the update for the freezing while downloading
mynameistak3n#6865: No problems so far
jay1185#0112: good to hear. i was going to suggest either your network drivers or storage device lol
jay1185#0112: but since it was only steam that kinda ruled out network drivers
Xbox 360 1953#2640: https://www.hsn.com/products/dell-156-amd-8gb-ram-256gb-ssd-touch-laptop-wvoucher/9440515?matrixchange=true this seem decent?
Xbox 360 1953#2640: My mom sent this link and said nothing else
Xbox 360 1953#2640: So I guess she's asking if it's good or not
JustinXenyx#8854: I reckon for 500 bucks it won't be too bad
JustinXenyx#8854: touch screen is a nice touch tho ngl
JustinXenyx#8854: dunno if the screen is any good or not tho |
thatubuntuguy#5914: It's 768p
thatubuntuguy#5914: Oof
thatubuntuguy#5914: Seems okay otherwise
JadeWasTaken#6479: ive been having an issue with my g402 and its working but it is as if it sticks and moves really slow but then it goes almost back to normal but is still all floaty and un responsive does anyone know how to fix the issue.
JadeWasTaken#6479: the issue normally appears when i am playing PUBG or when i am moving a file explorer window
tdp2612#3835: thats probably a pc problem not the mouse
tdp2612#3835: otherwise it would happen all the time
tdp2612#3835: probably just cpu usage pegging for whatever reason
Adrik Ivanov#3247: help!
Adrik Ivanov#3247: i try to root the phone and now it doesn't work
Adrik Ivanov#3247: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/678402312477081600/image0.jpg
Adrik Ivanov#3247: it can't boot into anything
mynameistak3n#6865: completed 1 trying 2 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/678479463863812127/unknown.png
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: That Dell...don't buy any, and I do mean ANY laptop with a resolution lower than FHD.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Especially in 2020. |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Why not this one?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://www.newegg.com/charcoal-black-acer-aspire-5-a515-54g-54qq-mainstream/p/N82E16834316760?reviews=all&Item=N82E16834316760
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: i5 8th gen, 8GB(4GB soldered) RAM, MX250, 512GB of SSD.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: For $499.
CaptainFlanger#2563: 👀
CaptainFlanger#2563: 512 GB you say?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Yes.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Most likely SATA.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Not sure about the screen either.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Could be a TN panel.
mynameistak3n#6865: Why dell?
mynameistak3n#6865: Buy a old MacBook or something, unless you're gon a use it for something different
DarknessFalls229#2286: hahaha, now thats funny
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: MBs are fragile, and error-prone, so I wouldn't risk buying one.
CaptainFlanger#2563: I know the 2013/14 MacBooks (A1502/1398) are decent, but they are still not the best bang for the buck. |
CaptainFlanger#2563: @Charlie Foxtrot The listing says it uses NVMe.
CaptainFlanger#2563: Possibly the same Intel 660p that my laptop has.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Is the Intel SSD decent?
CaptainFlanger#2563: Sort of trash, as some people might say.
CaptainFlanger#2563: But IMO, if taken care properly, it could last.
MythologicalZ#3752: More secondary storage than boog
MythologicalZ#3752: Boot
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Read/write speed?
CaptainFlanger#2563: If you are lucky, 1551 MB/s sequential read, 979 MB/s sequential write.
TheFifthAce#4128: @Charlie Foxtrot @CaptainFlanger bad laptop price
TheFifthAce#4128: :cromge:
TheFifthAce#4128: it is cringe!
CaptainFlanger#2563: The Acer, or the Mac?
TheFifthAce#4128: both!
CaptainFlanger#2563: Then it's your turn to suggest. |
TheFifthAce#4128: it took you a long time to type that
CaptainFlanger#2563: I'm perfectly happy with my VivoBook that cost me $599.
TheFifthAce#4128: :cromge:
TheFifthAce#4128: get a sony walkman
TheFifthAce#4128: but actually, if you're getting a dgpu, don't get a dinky mx250
TheFifthAce#4128: either go down to a vega for slightly less performance while having better thermals and a lighter laptop
TheFifthAce#4128: or go up to something like a nitro 5 with a proper dedicated GPU
TheFifthAce#4128: zen 2 laptops are also supposed to release soon, with promised pricetags that are very nice
TheFifthAce#4128: 4700u + 5600m for 800$ iirc
TheFifthAce#4128: with obviously some lower priced models that are just CPU, with the improved vega
CaptainFlanger#2563: Uh, I do end up with a dinky MX250. Bad choice, I know.
CaptainFlanger#2563: But hey, at least it doesn't blow up or break down immediately like most cheaply made laptops do. :Xdxdxd:
CaptainFlanger#2563: I wonder what's his budget though.
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Anyone know if you can finance shit on Newegg
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Forget it |
Xbox 360 1953#2640: My mom seems set on that first laptop
CaptainFlanger#2563: Damn...
TheFifthAce#4128: that first laptop is aids
TheFifthAce#4128: it's a first gen 2200u, a 768p display, and weighs 5 lbs @Xbox 360 1953
TheFifthAce#4128: extremely bad for the price
Racey#8574: If my current laptop gives me fucking AIDS and terminal cancer with a i3-3217 then the 2200U will be useless
TheFifthAce#4128: literally: motile
TheFifthAce#4128: it's 300$ instead of 500$
TheFifthAce#4128: comes with a more powerful CPU
TheFifthAce#4128: and is 1080p iirc
TheFifthAce#4128: @Xbox 360 1953
TheFifthAce#4128: tho it might be out of stock rn
TheFifthAce#4128: or the 250$ motile, it has the same CPU but is far cheaper and can be upgraded https://www.walmart.com/ip/Vega-HDMI-Front-RAM-Rose-FHD-4GB-display-AMD-128GB-Tuned-Camera-Radeon-14-Ryzen-Gold-720P-THX-Graphics-IR-SSD-Laptop-3-MOTILE-Spatial-Performance-Aud/708573214?athcpid=708573214&athpgid=athenaItemPage&athcgid=null&athznid=PWVUB&athieid=v0&athstid=CS004&athguid=1f8a753f-5bf-1704fc8ca7e8da&athancid=null&athena=true
Xbox 360 1953#2640: My mom already got the first one
Xbox 360 1953#2640: She chose that first one since she can't afford to pay for it all at once |
TheFifthAce#4128: :crome:
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/678829400690786324/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: @Xbox 360 1953 tell her to return it because shes paying double what its worth
TheFifthAce#4128: and can get one thats half the price
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I'll try
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Probably won't listen to me
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Which is that 249.00 one
Jam#0384: The Ryzen 3 Zen+ with Vega apu
Jam#0384: And SSD
Jam#0384: + 1080p display
TheFifthAce#4128: @Xbox 360 1953 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Vega-HDMI-Front-RAM-Rose-FHD-4GB-display-AMD-128GB-Tuned-Camera-Radeon-14-Ryzen-Gold-720P-THX-Graphics-IR-SSD-Laptop-3-MOTILE-Spatial-Performance-Aud/708573214?athcpid=708573214&athpgid=athenaItemPage&athcgid=null&athznid=PWVUB&athieid=v0&athstid=CS004&athguid=1f8a753f-5bf-1704fc8ca7e8da&athancid=null&athena=true
TheFifthAce#4128: it's the same CPU, but it's half the price, while having a nicer screen
Xbox 360 1953#2640: My mom said she'd take a look at that
TheFifthAce#4128: half the ram but ram is cheap as balls to upgrade
TheFifthAce#4128: please dont let her get that garbage |
TheFifthAce#4128: 500$ for a 2200u is pathetic
TheFifthAce#4128: I will literally ship you an i3 8145u laptop with 8gb ram, a 1600x900p display, and a 240gb ssd, for 185$
TheFifthAce#4128: @Xbox 360 1953
TheFifthAce#4128: which is significantly faster than the 2200u in CPU performance, with the igpu falling behind vega, but it'll still run 4k youtube fine
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I'll let you know what she decides to do
TheFifthAce#4128: ok
Clode#2428: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/679053715268698146/Screenshot_20200217-123618_Instagram.jpg
Clode#2428: Is it a good build for the price?
Racey#8574: I'm assuming 16 GB of RAM
Racey#8574: I don't live in the UK so I can't give good readings about price sadly
Clode#2428: Its like 570$
Clode#2428: I think
thatubuntuguy#5914: It's okay
thatubuntuguy#5914: Not brilliant
thatubuntuguy#5914: Can't see what PSU it has |
Clode#2428: Actually is 605
thatubuntuguy#5914: case airflow seems a bit dodgy
thatubuntuguy#5914: although those components aren't the most power hungry
thatubuntuguy#5914: can you see what psu it has?
Racey#8574: If you know how to make the airflow slightly better or keep the temps down after confirming everything is legitimate and good then go for it
tdp2612#3835: i mean its a tiny bit expensive
tdp2612#3835: but ehh its a prebuilt, it will always be
tdp2612#3835: case font looks pretty shit imo, but the massive window is nice, and the specs are solid
Alcyone#2233: https://www.chip7.pt/desktops/64766-chip7-doit-limited-edition-6-5-chip7doitl.html
Alcyone#2233: 8gb 2400 and an a320 isnt the best and I have never heard of that ssd or psu mfg. but if its cheaper than building or you cant it would probably work okay
JustinXenyx#8854: Honestly, that PSU is so sketch it is an automatic no-go for me
tdp2612#3835: eh it shouldnt be tooooo bad
tdp2612#3835: and it should have a warranty
tdp2612#3835: so id run it until the warranty runs out, then by that point hopefully youve learned to build pcs and you can yeet it out and put something better in
JustinXenyx#8854: I think the entire point here is to save money by not building a PC |
JustinXenyx#8854: PC parts in portugal can be quite expensive and i could see a prebuilt pc actually being cheaper than building one yourself
tdp2612#3835: nah i just mean for the psu being dodgy
tdp2612#3835: i mean in 2/3 years when the warranty runs out, the rest of it will still be hella usable and pretty powerful
Clode#2428: I do have an 500w old psu from my old pc is it better?
tdp2612#3835: i mean it really depends
tdp2612#3835: and personally i wouldnt think a 2600 and rx 580 could comfortably run on 500w
Galilool#3398: I ran 2600 and 580 on 430 watts no problem whatsoever
Galilool#3398: @tdp2612
tdp2612#3835: oh shit
tdp2612#3835: i thought the 580 was like 290 bad
tdp2612#3835: and i thought that was horrific
Galilool#3398: The 580 doesn't pull that much power
tdp2612#3835: wack
TheFifthAce#4128: @tdp2612 polaris, despite still being gcn, is far more power efficient than GCN
watsonad2000#2000: What's a intresting am2/2+ cpu thats 95 or less watts |
Alcyone#2233: none
Alcyone#2233: could find a later revidion B3 quad, or any of the tri or dual core blacke edition
watsonad2000#2000: Tri is what I was :THONK: ing
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I still seem to have cooling issues with my r9 after repasting it twice
Xbox 360 1953#2640: likes to stay at 94 whenever i play mw
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I'm kinda lost as to what to do now
Alcyone#2233: what model is it
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Xfx r9 390 dual dissipation
Xbox 360 1953#2640: From what I can tell the temps i'm getting are terrible
Alcyone#2233: are you spreading paste over the entire die?
Alcyone#2233: what are the fan speeds as well. it might need a more agressive curve or something
Xbox 360 1953#2640: whenever it's at 94c msi overlay thing says its at three thousand something rpm
Xbox 360 1953#2640: And when it comes to applying paste, I have to spread it myself instead of doing what I do with cpu's?
Xbox 360 1953#2640: That might be part of the issue
Alcyone#2233: it can help.. what paste are you using? |
Xbox 360 1953#2640: whatever the heck xfx gave me
Xbox 360 1953#2640: when i got replacement fans
watsonad2000#2000: off a chat
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I also have a shitty case which also probably adds to the issue
Alcyone#2233: my method for success on hot thot amd gpus.
1. clean the cooler plate and the die with iso alcahol and let dry COMPLETELY. 99% is best as it drys fast. It should be available in stores or maybe over the counter at box store pharmacy.
2. spread a thickish paste over the entire die. MX-2 is the cheapest good paste for high power gpus imo
3. profit
Jam#0384: R9 series needs good airflow
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Could i use 70 and just leave it for longer?
Jam#0384: 99% does sometimes leave stains
Alcyone#2233: yeah
Jam#0384: But its not lethal
Jam#0384: Ive been working with 70% today and it dries fast enough
Alcyone#2233: just make sure its completely dry |
Jam#0384: stupid radeon 9700
Jam#0384: Still not finished cleaning that fucker
Jam#0384: At least i can read the die now
Alcyone#2233: you can test gpu thermals by running it with the side panel off
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I think I have like
Xbox 360 1953#2640: six bucks and seventyish cents
Jam#0384: Enough for mx-2
Alcyone#2233: if there is a drastic change you need better airflow or a more airflow focused case
Jam#0384: Or just run with no side panel
Jam#0384: Its like a window you can phase your hand through
Jam#0384: :DontgetDoneGetDom:
Alcyone#2233: Hawaii ain't nuthin to fuck with
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Where do you guys think i can get mx-2 from
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Checking amazon the 4g one is 6.89
Alcyone#2233: I have a vapor X 290 it runs at ~70c with a good cooler and a lil undervolt |
Alcyone#2233: Amazon is about the only place I can get things
Jam#0384: Rumor says they call it hawaii because their temperatures are similar to the tropics
Xbox 360 1953#2640: is 2 grams enough? that might be the only one i can get as of right now
Jam#0384: Bruh
Jam#0384: You could repaste like
Jam#0384: A dozen with 2g
Xbox 360 1953#2640: epic
Alcyone#2233: or like 4 if youre me
Jam#0384: unless its gtx 480 those fuckers are large
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I don't really know how much 2g is in comparison to literally anything
Jam#0384: Its not much
Xbox 360 1953#2640: wait fug
Xbox 360 1953#2640: tax
Jam#0384: Its actually very little
Jam#0384: But you know |
Jam#0384: You dont need a shit ton of paste for a repaste
Alcyone#2233: I can do a cpu and a big die gpu with the lil 1.5g kryo tubes
Alcyone#2233: and I cheez whiz it on a bit
TheFifthAce#4128: @Xbox 360 1953 I will trade a 1050 for your gpu
TheFifthAce#4128: :yeeees:
Xbox 360 1953#2640: nothanks
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I don't want to go back to one of those
TheFifthAce#4128: gaming
Xbox 360 1953#2640: It'll probably be a while until i can get paste
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Can I still use the gpu for regular, non gaming shit
Jam#0384: So
Jam#0384: Its just an Intel HD
Jam#0384: :haha:
Xbox 360 1953#2640: sure
thatubuntuguy#5914: mx2 vs mx4 |
tdp2612#3835: what about it
tdp2612#3835: we were saying about this yesterday
TheFifthAce#4128: @thatubuntuguy mx4 is better but only a bit
TheFifthAce#4128: just get whichever is cheaper
TheFifthAce#4128: wont really matter
JustinXenyx#8854: realistically, get the one that is cheaper
JustinXenyx#8854: performance difference is negligible in the real world but MX2 tends to be cheaper
Jam#0384: MX2 is also good quality
Alcyone#2233: I like mx-2 over mx-4. its thicker and works better on bare die gpus for me
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Can you use xeons on h81? I have someone saying you can't
TheFifthAce#4128: which h81
TheFifthAce#4128: pretty sure you cant
Xbox 360 1953#2640: the 1150
TheFifthAce#4128: ...yes I know h81 is 1150
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Well i dont know which board in particular |
Xbox 360 1953#2640: it is an asus one however. and matx
TheFifthAce#4128: xeons are listed as supported on the h18m-e
TheFifthAce#4128: which is a common asus matx h81
Xbox 360 1953#2640: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/485138525885431808/679457567532908564/image0.png this is an image of said board
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/679462638719074314/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: supported as far as asus says
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Thanks
MythologicalZ#3752: It's only 1151 that has issues with Xeons
Galilool#3398: Lol
Galilool#3398: I've got an i7 3770 here that boosts over 4,3 Ghz, official max clock is 3,9 Ghz
Galilool#3398: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/679643168551206932/IMG_20200219_115732_515.jpg
Bogi76#3090: *noice*
Galilool#3398: Still gets rather standard scores in cb r15 and horrible scores in r20
TheFifthAce#4128: probably task manager being gay
TheFifthAce#4128: normal |
Galilool#3398: Yeah, I double-checked with HWinfo
Galilool#3398: Task-Manager is an asshole
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Right so I have 2 am3 asus MBs
One is great with a broken socket
One is terrible with broke I/O but a working socket
The I/O isn't an issue because the USB header does work and I use a hub regardless
But it's still a significantly worse MB when it comes to power and such
Sony PS-FL77#3627: By broken socket I mean the standard white plastic piece
Sony PS-FL77#3627: So
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Do I swap the socket from one onto the other?
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Risking potential further damage but in turn getting a better MB
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Taking into account that I can probably buy another AM3 motherboard for less than 20 quid though I'd rather avoid it
JustinXenyx#8854: Honestly, you're probably only going to break more stuff than you are going to fix
TheGeekster#8508: swapping cpu sockets are essentially impossible, as justin said, you'll just mess up the motherboard more tbh
Lady Mipha#0611: ^^^^ |
Sony PS-FL77#3627: @TheGeekster the thing is
They're both the same exact socket
As in
Both Asus M4A875T-M
Sony PS-FL77#3627: But one of the two is the LE version
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I'd usually never do this but this is quite the unique situation
TheGeekster#8508: yeah but the socket is soldered down to the motherboard by like 800 pins or something like that...
Sony PS-FL77#3627: No but that's not the piece I'm on about
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I'm on about the white plastic piece
Sony PS-FL77#3627: The bit that moves when you love the handle
TheGeekster#8508: 🤔 send pic of what part you mean
TheGeekster#8508: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/679779580105850994/HTB1GD4NrTlYBeNjSszcq6zwhFXaK.png
TheGeekster#8508: do you mean the blue plastic section from around the socket? or the black socket area?
Sony PS-FL77#3627: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/679779988358299666/20200219_210250.jpg
Sony PS-FL77#3627: This |
Sony PS-FL77#3627: This goes in between the CPU
Sony PS-FL77#3627: And this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/679780080108568656/20200219_210306.jpg
Sony PS-FL77#3627: It's that white piece that's broken
JustinXenyx#8854: again
JustinXenyx#8854: the chances of you reliably replacing that are pretty low
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Oh I agree
Sony PS-FL77#3627: But I'm kinda willing to take it because this MB I'm using right now is
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Eh
Sony PS-FL77#3627: No bueno
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Like
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I'm pondering it
TheGeekster#8508: i mean you can try, but yeah it like, that's so very delicate, but if they're fucked already, why not?
Sony PS-FL77#3627: The LE MB is fucked because broken I/O and the other MB is tucked because socket
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Maybe I can turn these two into a single functioning MB xD
TheGeekster#8508: kinda appreciate the "GPU NOS" |
thatubuntuguy#5914: ***NOS***
TheFifthAce#4128: NOS
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Yeah this MB is so sexy
Sony PS-FL77#3627: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/679781121940389946/20200219_210717.jpg
Sony PS-FL77#3627: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/679781156950245513/20200219_210711.jpg
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I love asus motherboards
thatubuntuguy#5914: the chipset heatsink
thatubuntuguy#5914: 😳
BigPierogi#3368: 🥔 🌮
Sony PS-FL77#3627: IT'S SO SEXY
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Right I'm gonna go for it
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I'll keep you all posted through this chat of that's okay
Sony PS-FL77#3627: And yes I do indeed have a severe addiction to building and tinkering with PCs
Sony PS-FL77#3627: No I'm not seeking help
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Yet |
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Step one (don't worry I won't actually post every step)
Sony PS-FL77#3627: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/679782184696938500/20200219_211135.jpg
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Removed the Heatsink mount on the sexy MB, this is so that I can properly insert the CPU arm after placing the socket
Sony PS-FL77#3627: OH FUCK I FORGOT XD
Sony PS-FL77#3627: This plan might be cancelled
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I was mistaken about my MB
That's because I tried to buy a few from ebay and there was a mixup
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Fuck xD
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Oh well
Sony PS-FL77#3627: After a quick check came to the conclusion there is no intercompstibility
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Always double check beforehand kids
TheGeekster#8508: 🤔 are they the same Am3 socket?
Sony PS-FL77#3627: See I got my MB mixed up with one I nearly bought xD
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Big oops
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Wel luckily I spotted the gleaming asrock logo before breaking it down further |
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Because it uses a different shape mount
Sony PS-FL77#3627: To put it simple
The white piece on the M4A has 2 teeth connecting it to the black socket
Whilst the white piece on my asrock N68-S3 (found the name) has 3 teeth
Sony PS-FL77#3627: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/679789493099823204/20200219_214038.jpg
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Here the one with 2 teeth
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Or well
2 teeth
3 indents
The other has 3 teeth or 4 indents
Xbox 360 1953#2640: i got some mx4 so ill be able to repaste gpu
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I got two spreading sticks in the package
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Nice
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Some gigabyte board use this same asus one
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I knew about the swapping tactic since socket issues are common with these AM3 sockets |
Sony PS-FL77#3627: @Deleted User did that
Every startup you have to jiggle the CPU
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Not nice if you have a single piece PC case
Sony PS-FL77#3627: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/679790209818296356/20200219_214329.jpg
Sony PS-FL77#3627: This is a single piece PC case
Sony PS-FL77#3627: So no 3 separate panels xD
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Yeah this thing predates me
Sony PS-FL77#3627: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/679790643660456018/20200219_214216.jpg
Sony PS-FL77#3627: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/679790699490836490/20200219_214212.jpg
Sony PS-FL77#3627: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/679790713973899297/20200219_214220.jpg
Sony PS-FL77#3627: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/679790729262137416/20200219_214225.jpg
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Ignore the random processor
Sony PS-FL77#3627: That's an Athlon II X2 I have lying around
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Tried that
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Big no no |
Sony PS-FL77#3627: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/679791177767059536/20200219_214655.jpg
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Fuck this GPU is sexy
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Like I know I flaunt it a lot
Sony PS-FL77#3627: But fuckkk
Sony PS-FL77#3627: But any hero needs a character flaw
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Her character flaw is FUCKING MINI HDMI
Sony PS-FL77#3627: who uses mini hdmi wtf
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Yep
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I have 1 HDMI mini adapter
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Which I totally haven't modified to fit in a raspberry pi case I totally didn't hand build
Sony PS-FL77#3627: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/679791672200396867/20200219_214917.jpg
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Totally
Deleted User#0000: now thats pretty
Sony PS-FL77#3627: XD
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Carved it up with a knife cause fitment |
Xbox 360 1953#2640: nice
Sony PS-FL77#3627: This USB 1.0 hub is the only I/O my PC has https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/679794635723243650/20200219_215929.jpg
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Also it's not material costs but the fact that it's likely low production and there's R&D involved
JustinXenyx#8854: The low production factor massively increases ITX case cost
JustinXenyx#8854: If a big chinese producer made thousands of the Dan Case A4 that thing would be literally 40 dollars or less
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Well buy that then
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Tada
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Problem solved
Sony PS-FL77#3627: You get what you pay for
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I paid nothing for my case
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I was about to say
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Why do you want it?
Looks
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Why do people pay for an appearance package on a car
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Looks |
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Skins in a game?
Looks
Sony PS-FL77#3627: If you're like me you want performance and don't give a fuck
scelli#0001: https://youtu.be/RnqMwoE16qQ the man finally made a video on that retarded poster about tor and discord and virtual box etc being for hacking
scelli#0001: He shut them down
Xbox 360 1953#2640: @TheFifthAce hey you recommended to me a laptop the other day for my mom
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Could you find one with 10key
Sony PS-FL77#3627: You mean a numpad?
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Yes
TheFifthAce#4128: @Xbox 360 1953 how many dollars
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Dolla dolla bills
Sony PS-FL77#3627: And I'm not US based so I won't be of much help
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Something below 500 or 600
TheFifthAce#4128: what is use case
Xbox 360 1953#2640: General computing/ very little gaming |
Xbox 360 1953#2640: She likes to play her old Nancy Drew games on her laptop occasionally
Xbox 360 1953#2640: She also wants to purchase it at best buy now
Xbox 360 1953#2640: @TheFifthAce sorry for all of the stipulations
TheFifthAce#4128: at best buy? big gay
TheFifthAce#4128: @Xbox 360 1953 unironically this https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-inspiron-15-6-touch-screen-laptop-amd-ryzen-3-8gb-memory-128gb-ssd-black/6391785.p?skuId=6391785
Xbox 360 1953#2640: So the same one
TheFifthAce#4128: its half the price
Xbox 360 1953#2640: But less expensive
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Alright
TheFifthAce#4128: its not an amazing laptop
TheFifthAce#4128: but its dirt cheap and will more than suit her needs
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Thanks
Xbox 360 1953#2640: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/485138525885431808/679809861978292243/IMG_20200219_164739.png this is my gpu when I took off the cooler to repast it
boog#9487: anyone want a windows 7 key
boog#9487: its free |
boog#9487: eh im going to bed
Bogi76#3090: yo any euro guys here?
Bogi76#3090: i need a help for psu upgrade
Sony PS-FL77#3627: @Bogi76 yo what up?
MythologicalZ#3752: If it's that 750w from tyc
Bogi76#3090: i need some recommendations for 650-750w psu
MythologicalZ#3752: It's overpriced
Bogi76#3090: mostly up to 75€
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Blimey
Sony PS-FL77#3627: That's honestly above my price point xD
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I tend to focus on the absolute low end
Sony PS-FL77#3627: So I don't know if I'm of much help
And PSUs you've got an eye on?
MythologicalZ#3752: Check LTT forums,pick a PSU and check your local retailer
MythologicalZ#3752: Ez |
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Honestly that or just browse local websites
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Anything with an 80Plus rating should be decent at the least
MythologicalZ#3752: Not all internals are created equal
Bogi76#3090: atm i got eye on Corsair CX and HX
Bogi76#3090: so far
Bogi76#3090: 750 both
MythologicalZ#3752: What parts do you have
Bogi76#3090: atm shitty old build parts
Bogi76#3090: i plan to upgrade to ryzen so...that is why im asking
MythologicalZ#3752: 🗿
MythologicalZ#3752: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/
MythologicalZ#3752: There's also some super detailed one floating around
MythologicalZ#3752: One of the others should have it
Sony PS-FL77#3627: https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/issues/1232
When the OS on your laptop is too old to install a new OS |
Sony PS-FL77#3627: So now I'm having to run windows updater first lol
Sony PS-FL77#3627: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/680080956345810955/20200220_165839.jpg
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Lmao "never"
TheGeekster#8508: Why windows 7? Windows 10 is basically free at this point
MythologicalZ#3752: Shid tier lappy iirc
MythologicalZ#3752: 8.1 is lighter than 7 on HDDs too :Peter:
MythologicalZ#3752: If we're talking alternatives
thatubuntuguy#5914: ^
thatubuntuguy#5914: lightened 8.1 is the best option for a hdd
Sony PS-FL77#3627: @TheGeekster I have a legit response for that
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I had it running Win7 because windows 10 has no display drivers for the Atom N2600
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Meaning that the display was borked
Sony PS-FL77#3627: And I was attempting to upgrade to Linux but was halted by some issues
TheGeekster#8508: huh... fair enough 🤔 didn't think it was *that* old
TheGeekster#8508: ohhhh, max ram of 2.6gb, yeah i can kinda see why they didn't bother |
Sony PS-FL77#3627: It isn't
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Just super unsupported
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Yeah 2.44 in this setup
TheFifthAce#4128: what phone should I buy to replace g6
g8?
v40?
tdp2612#3835: im looking at a g7 power atm
tdp2612#3835: but thats because im broke
JustinXenyx#8854: he is talking about LG not Motorola @tdp2612
tdp2612#3835: oh shit
tdp2612#3835: lul
JustinXenyx#8854: Why not the V50? V40 is basically like a G7, meaning it won't be much of an upgrade @TheFifthAce
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I'm using an S7
JustinXenyx#8854: And if you want to stick with LG, i would maybe buy the G8S?
JustinXenyx#8854: G8S sounds like a nice hybrid between the G8 and V50 tbh |
TheFifthAce#4128: tryna get my phone off ebay for like 150
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx so g8 then?
TheFifthAce#4128: far cheaper than a v50
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/680169393506091315/unknown.png
JustinXenyx#8854: Oh what a solid price, that's actually fucking good
TheFifthAce#4128: thats a sold item
TheFifthAce#4128: thats just an example I found
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx heres the one I'd prolly end up buying https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/680170244920311895/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: some dead pixels so maybe not
TheFifthAce#4128: I'll keep looking but yeah prolly a g8
Bogi76#3090: guys is hd 6870 good? (given its best card for cheap price here that is local to me)
JustinXenyx#8854: It's worse than a GT1030 and it is a Terascale card, those odds really are not that great tbh @Bogi76
Bogi76#3090: huh
Bogi76#3090: *then techpowerup is shitty site*
JustinXenyx#8854: nah, their performance estimates are just wack |
Bogi76#3090: yeah
Bogi76#3090: what should i look for 30-40€?
JustinXenyx#8854: Different question
JustinXenyx#8854: where do you live and what do you need this graphics card for?
JustinXenyx#8854: Markets always vary by region so knowing where you live (as in country not your whole address) would make it easier to recommend cards
TheFifthAce#4128: @Bogi76 r9 270 uwupip
Bogi76#3090: kk
Bogi76#3090: serbia
Bogi76#3090: aka retard eu market
Jam#0384: I read that as Siberia
Jam#0384: And I was like
Jam#0384: Why
Deinsti#5907: I didn't know they used Euro's in Siberia lmfao
Bogi76#3090: Siberia is just winter version
Bogi76#3090: 😂 |
JustinXenyx#8854: Not in serbia
JustinXenyx#8854: In Serbia you could maybe get a 7790 or 7850 for that money if you look hard enough
SuSSudio#2688: I was about to recommend HD 7790 to him but i wasn't sure if his market sells it, the price for the HD 6870 was pretty affordable too at €28 so i can't really find a better card at that price point
SuSSudio#2688: HD 6870 is still decent for playing older/lighter esports titles, i can maintain 70+fps with all settings set to high + 4x MSAA in csgo
TheFifthAce#4128: terascale
TheFifthAce#4128: 🤢
TheFifthAce#4128: thats a hefty no
Bogi76#3090: uh sadly there aren't any 7790 for sale
Bogi76#3090: tho there are some 7850's
Bogi76#3090: but only 2 have reasonable price
Bogi76#3090: others are inflated asf
Alcyone#2233: if youre looking at 7850/70 also check 280 and 280x
Alcyone#2233: R9 285 sometimes get overlooked. they are decent and can use freesync
TheFifthAce#4128: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Toshiba-Portege-Z20T-B-12-5-M-5Y71-8GB-128GB-SSD-HDMI-Win-10-Pro-2-in-1-Laptop/264592867059
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/12-HP-Elite-X2-1012-G1-2-in-1-Tablet-PC-Intel-M5-6th-Gen-8GB-256GB-SSD/202909641760?hash=item2f3e5b6c20:g:e-EAAOSw1UpeJcTS
TheFifthAce#4128: which one should I go after
Bogi76#3090: idk i would personally go for toshiba
JustinXenyx#8854: Rio and lemons seem to have a great experience with the portege Z20T-B @TheFifthAce
JustinXenyx#8854: as in like, really good battery life n all
layton#0621: go on
sajanator3#3333: so with my PC is connected to wifi through me usb tethering it with my phone
layton#0621: right
sajanator3#3333: as a result i cant detect my chromecast
sajanator3#3333: how would i go about fixing this
JustinXenyx#8854: oh and also @TheFifthAce the HP not including an AC adapter is pretty shady, most stolen ones don't include it
layton#0621: they're not on the same network
sajanator3#3333: they are
sajanator3#3333: im usb tethering my WIFI
JustinXenyx#8854: @sajanator3 Can your PC not detect your chromecast or can't your phone? |
sajanator3#3333: my phone can detect the chromecast
sajanator3#3333: my PC cant
layton#0621: why do you need to tether
JustinXenyx#8854: You don't need it to be in the same wifi, same network also does it
sajanator3#3333: because my PC does not have a wifi card
JustinXenyx#8854: You have the chromecast app for windows or the chrome browser?
sajanator3#3333: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/680776629793980469/unknown.png
sajanator3#3333: this should be able to detect a chromecast on the network
sajanator3#3333: im trying to play a downloaded file
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Okay I have a question
The Samsung Galaxy S7 can create a wifi hotspot without relying on 4G
Meaning that it can repeat an existing wifi connection and turn that into a hotspot.
Whilst most phones I know disable wifi whilst hotspot is active
My question is
Are there any other phones which can do this? |
JustinXenyx#8854: I have a different question
JustinXenyx#8854: Why the fuck would you want to do that? :Hahahahaha: @Sony PS-FL77
sajanator3#3333: @Sony PS-FL77 i mean there is usb tethering
Sony PS-FL77#3627: 1
Why the fuck not
2
I used to set up a network on my phone so that my Raspberry Pi zero could automatically connect without me having to connect it to each individual network
sajanator3#3333: where ur phone bassically turns into a wifi thing
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I know that
JustinXenyx#8854: You using VLC? Because if i remember right that should stream to chrome @sajanator3
Sony PS-FL77#3627: But I'm looking specifically for this feature
And I'm mostly curious as to why nobody else does this
Sony PS-FL77#3627: As far as I know even later Samsung phones don't have it
JustinXenyx#8854: Because the WIDE majority of users does not need this feature @Sony PS-FL77
sajanator3#3333: @JustinXenyx yeah but it doesnt detect it |
sajanator3#3333: because im usb tethering
sajanator3#3333: is there a way to get arounf that
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Yes and the WIDE majority of users doesn't see the difference between 8K and 4K yet here we are pushing 8K cameras
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Point being
JustinXenyx#8854: Oh, so the USB tethering does break the chromecast detection? @sajanator3
sajanator3#3333: yeah
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I don't give a shit whether the wide majority uses it or not
I'm merely wondering whether this is a thing on other phones
sajanator3#3333: is there a way around that
JustinXenyx#8854: I don't think so, because the PC may not show up as a seperate device in the network
sajanator3#3333: yea but the pc should be able to detect the other stuff thats on the network
sajanator3#3333: even if the pc doesnt show up as a device on its own
JustinXenyx#8854: My point was, phone manufacturers remove features that cost them money and that many people do not use. Technological advancements with cameras are pushed all the time on phones, a feature like this that only has a very niche audience may be forgotten about or removed entirely @Sony PS-FL77
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I know that dingus
But I wasn't asking why or why not they'd implement it |
I'm asking who else did it
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Or if anyone else did it
JustinXenyx#8854: That's the thing i'm trying to say, i don't think any manufacturer explicitly advertised a feature like that or anyone who has a phone that is capable of doing so would explicitly say that his phone can do that given that it is pretty rarely used by people
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Hence why I asked it in this chat on this server
I was hoping there would've been another nerd here who would've found this quirky feature on their own phone
JustinXenyx#8854: @sajanator3 I think that's what is breaking the chromecast though, it wants to see the device by itself and so on
JustinXenyx#8854: Your PC would be pushing all the traffic through your phone thus making it look like one device on the chromecast
sajanator3#3333: @JustinXenyx it's not that it's failing to cast to the Chromecast
sajanator3#3333: It's failing to detect it
sajanator3#3333: The PC is failing to detect the Chromecast
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I mean
You could attempt the same setup but using a USB wifi dongle.
Cowsayspow62#8257: anyone know of free data recovery software that lets you recover unlimited amounts of data?
sajanator3#3333: @Sony PS-FL77 yeah it would work then
sajanator3#3333: but atm i dont have the money to go out and buy one |
Sony PS-FL77#3627: That's understandable
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Good luck
MythologicalZ#3752: Haha,yes
MythologicalZ#3752: What chip
JustinXenyx#8854: how much was it @Deleted User
JustinXenyx#8854: Oh nice
MythologicalZ#3752: 5650 don't clock as nice as 75s but they're aight
MythologicalZ#3752: Just gl with gigabyte x58
tdp2612#3835: seems a bit expensive but i guess that was an expensive board back in the day
MythologicalZ#3752: Did you have channel dropping issues or Nah?
MythologicalZ#3752: That was the issue with mine
MythologicalZ#3752: Had to reseat ram so bloody often
MythologicalZ#3752: CPU-z isn't really wrong about that kinda stuff
MythologicalZ#3752: Probably because of the pins that it wouldn't work
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I repasted my gpu with mx-4 yesterday and the temps dropped from 94 in unigine to 74 |
tdp2612#3835: nice
tdp2612#3835: how old was the old paste
tdp2612#3835: ie how old is the card
Xbox 360 1953#2640: yes
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Ok so, I got a card from my friend and i had to replace fans
Xbox 360 1953#2640: when i replaced the fans i fucked up and put a screw through the cable. I taped it back up and the fans work fine but i fucked up repasting twice
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Then I got mx-4 and didn't fuck up this time
MythologicalZ#3752: Speccy gay
JustinXenyx#8854: selling it is gonna be hard in general lol @Deleted User
JustinXenyx#8854: People are either not interested in X58 or people sell it for too much
MythologicalZ#3752: :epicgamer:
MythologicalZ#3752: Shid software
tdp2612#3835: its not that bad
JustinXenyx#8854: 100€ is a definite yikes tbh
tdp2612#3835: i mean it gives the same results as everything else individually for me |
MythologicalZ#3752: Use it on a 1080 :epicgamer:
MythologicalZ#3752: Sellers advantage meme
MythologicalZ#3752: X58 sells
MythologicalZ#3752: At least you're not like the long nose **fellas** in some servers who way overprice their boards and use tyc vids to hype it up
MythologicalZ#3752: Like 100 dollars for a board alone
MythologicalZ#3752: And it's a p6t or some other meh meme
MythologicalZ#3752: At least you've got ram and a 6c
JustinXenyx#8854: TYC is the sole reason why people think X58 is worth more than what it actually is
MythologicalZ#3752: Give Jimmy Toe some credit too!!
JustinXenyx#8854: timmy joe is irrelevant to shit, 133k subs but less than 20k average views per video
JustinXenyx#8854: while TYC is actually doing numbers
MythologicalZ#3752: Timmy hoe is an ass
MythologicalZ#3752: Selling hardware fans send him :epicgamer:
MythologicalZ#3752: As for yes teck city
MythologicalZ#3752: https://youtu.be/t4EzjbCjPkg |
MythologicalZ#3752: He ain't exactly pulling a ton of viewers either
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Ryzen killer amirite
MythologicalZ#3752: It's an interesting concept
MythologicalZ#3752: But R0 so no z170/270 mods
MythologicalZ#3752: Kinda kills cheap boards because I disagree with using h310 memes
MythologicalZ#3752: Since they're featureless shit
Alcyone#2233: I bought a z390 for $68 shipped off amazon warehouse. I wouldn't bother with a H or B board.
MythologicalZ#3752: Exactly
Silentdragon#6383: Tech Yes City is actually a pretty good channel tho. I never would have known that an 8-Core unlocked Xeons exist for my X79 system if it wasn't for his channel
Silentdragon#6383: I mean sure €240 for an 8 core wasn't a particularly great deal even a year ago, but considering that it allowed me to keep the rest of my system the same and get literally double the multicore performance it was pretty nice
JustinXenyx#8854: My problem with TYC is that he keeps pushing dumb shit onto people
JustinXenyx#8854: Like buying X58 or buying LGA2011
JustinXenyx#8854: For most people it basically does not make sense
JustinXenyx#8854: And his constant bs about "Is X chip the Ryzen killer" is just unneeded tbh
Silentdragon#6383: yeah okay true |
Silentdragon#6383: I bought my LGA2011 system 6 years ago because of SLI and even though that died it sort of paid off by now due to the 4.5 GHz 8-core, but yeah, I wouldn't exactly recommend it unless you already had like a MoBo and some good DDR3 RAM for example
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah, that makes sense but not for someone looking to buy a whole PC
Alcyone#2233: getting old stuff all working together can be an issue for someone that doesnt even know their way around a bios
Alcyone#2233: ive had a few old boards that wont even post with a newer gpu until bios is updated, xmp that wouldnt post etc
Silentdragon#6383: well that's where all the new chinese LGA2011 boards come in, I'm sure those are better /s 😂
JustinXenyx#8854: Honestly, in certain markets like Russia those LGA2011 boards actually make sense. That however does not change the fact the wide majority of them are hot garbage
Alcyone#2233: my friend thought he was being smart and got a chinese "p67" it was a c chipset and couldn't oc. they just put whatever on the box
Silentdragon#6383: yeah and even if they used the proper chipset, I'm not sure if I'd trust the VRMs on those things for ocing
Alcyone#2233: best bet now is a b450 and whatever ryzen you can afford
Alcyone#2233: even if its a 1200 or something.
Silentdragon#6383: I mean I could see myself buying one of these boards for something like a FreeNAS server. Mainly due to cheap ECC ram and a low clocking 6-core Xeon for like 20 bucks would totally be fine
Alcyone#2233: yeah for an enthusiast that knows what they are doing there is a bunch of neat old tech to play with. But as a blanket solution to save money its not a good idea
JustinXenyx#8854: Honestly, the thing that i am fearing right now is that because of the situation that we have with the CoronaVirus causing memory prices to inevitably skyrocket is that people are gonna buy those shitter LGA2011 boards and so on just because the memory is so much cheaper
Silentdragon#6383: well at least that would be an actual reason
Alcyone#2233: At least it wasnt Tecatevirus, that beer sucks |
JustinXenyx#8854: Thing is though, they'd have no upgrade path after memory comes down to normal prices again
JustinXenyx#8854: Like you saved 50 bucks now but can spend another 300 bucks buying a new motherboard, cpu and ram later
Alcyone#2233: yeah youre hosed and every mitigation is reducing performance
Alcyone#2233: LGA 1200 boards arent gonna be cheap either
Silentdragon#6383: yeah but realistically, how much of an upgrade path do you get with a 200€ ryzen system? I mean I've got one of those as a NAS/HTPC and I really wouldn't trust my 50€ X370 board with anything more than 6 cores
Alcyone#2233: if you got a msi b450 max mortar + with the girthy 4 phase you are fine on a 3900x later
JustinXenyx#8854: Realistically, you could move from a R3 1200 up to a R5 3600 or even a 3700 if you have decent VRM cooling
Alcyone#2233: I have ran a 2700x on a b450 tomahawk and it was fine
Alcyone#2233: gaming plus, mortar, a pro all have the same vrm with different heatsinks
Silentdragon#6383: I'll admit I haven't looked at the MSI boards much, but that sounds good
Silentdragon#6383: I used to only buy ASUS boards until most of their stuff became hot overpriced garbage
Silentdragon#6383: I mean it was always overpriced but at least you used to get decent quality
Silentdragon#6383: I've bought Gigabyte since then but their products seem a bit hit-or-miss as well
JustinXenyx#8854: Gigabytes AM4 boards are hot garbage except their newest X570 ones
JustinXenyx#8854: ASUS boards seem to be rather overpriced compared to the competition with AM4 |
MythologicalZ#3752: Tech yes city smells
MythologicalZ#3752: And the X470 Gaming 7 is the only good pre x570 giga board
Alcyone#2233: yep, asus is okay as they have all the oc options, but the prices are usually higher and the components lower quality than MSI on the lower end am4 boards
MythologicalZ#3752: Prime P is alright for the price
Alcyone#2233: asrock is the most whack, no llc or soc voltage unless you get the steel legend, which has a mediocre 4 phase because they spent all the budget on rgb
Alcyone#2233: then gigashite, they only have offset voltage on b450 because they used a controller that cant physically set a static voltage
Alcyone#2233: next up is asus for the reasons I stated above
Alcyone#2233: MSI is best because you get all the oc options, a decent vrm and bios flashback on $90-120 motherboards
Silentdragon#6383: The MSI boards did have some issues with the Zen2 BIOS update though if I remember correctly
Silentdragon#6383: something about the BIOS chips being too small
MythologicalZ#3752: Yeah
MythologicalZ#3752: Non MAX boards have to use a stripped bios
JustinXenyx#8854: That's a general issue tho
JustinXenyx#8854: Many mobo makers did not expect to need bigger BIOS chips
MythologicalZ#3752: I don't recall seeing any issues on other brand's boards |
MythologicalZ#3752: MSI got hit the hardest because they had particularly smaller chips
Silentdragon#6383: yeah my Gigabyte AX370-Gaming apparently doesn't have that issue
Silentdragon#6383: and again that thing was 50€, my expectations were very low
JustinXenyx#8854: it's more like a gimped B350 tho tbf
MythologicalZ#3752: x370 pro4 best
Silentdragon#6383: yeah the overclocking options really aren't great
Silentdragon#6383: I really just want ASUS to bring back their Sabertooth line
Silentdragon#6383: they still have the best UEFI
Silentdragon#6383: but the ROG stuff is way overpriced and TUF is hot garbage
Little Billy#3065: i finally started working on my relatives old pc from 2003 or somewhere in that area
MythologicalZ#3752: x570 tuf boards aren't the worst thing ever
Little Billy#3065: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/680873551238398047/JPEG_20200222_222819.jpg
MythologicalZ#3752: but there were qc issues early on
Little Billy#3065: it did boot when i tried it a year ago but would crash probably overheating
Little Billy#3065: there wasnt much thermal paste left |
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