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BigPierogi#3368: more expensive but
BigPierogi#3368: could stop him from buying more ram i nthe future
Muse#0557: Is 16gb DDR4 really that cheap
Muse#0557: Man that's worth it
BigPierogi#3368: its not cheap
BigPierogi#3368: 80 pounds is expensive
Alcyone#2233: storage is so easy to add later, for budget builds I always reccomend ditching the hdd and getting the biggest ssd you can afford
Alcyone#2233: not hard to come up with $30 later and plug in 2 cables
Muse#0557: Good advice
BigPierogi#3368: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/DrNZGc
BigPierogi#3368: i could find a cheaper ssd
BigPierogi#3368: bvrb
TheFifthAce#4128: 860 evo more like cringe
TheFifthAce#4128: pro4 more like cringe
TheFifthAce#4128: spec delta more like cringe |
TheFifthAce#4128: expensive ram is cringe
Muse#0557: Isn't your name what roads are made of
BigPierogi#3368: no
BigPierogi#3368: thats asphalt
Muse#0557: *I know *
BigPierogi#3368: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZzJGV7
Muse#0557: Why would he go for a G402 and G213
TheFifthAce#4128: why is ram pricing so fucked in uk, very cringe
Muse#0557: Just realised how old and cheap plasticy they are
BigPierogi#3368: my mouse is steelseries
Muse#0557: I got a Razer Lance head Tournament for £24.99 like 2 years ago
TheFifthAce#4128: that spec delta case is very hinge though
Muse#0557: Okey?
Muse#0557: You seem to be having a mental breakdown
BigPierogi#3368: yoyur case prices are kinda hinge |
BigPierogi#3368: fractal focus g is more expensive in the uk
BigPierogi#3368: cheaper here
BigPierogi#3368: corsair case is more expensive here
BigPierogi#3368: cheaper there
BigPierogi#3368: also
BigPierogi#3368: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/m2XWyk
BigPierogi#3368: i just changed the mouse
BigPierogi#3368: as reccomendation
BigPierogi#3368: cause rival 110 is pretty nice imo
Abe.#3344: Thanks guys lmao
Abe.#3344: Might change it and add the hard drive back, but other than that it's perfect
Abe.#3344: I doubt he wants to spend later
Muse#0557: Np
Muse#0557: If you need more help just ask
Abe.#3344: @Muse turns out I'm stupid, and he needed a monitor, not peripherals |
Abe.#3344: Any good budget monitors you recommend?
Muse#0557: 2 secs
Muse#0557: Any requirements?
Muse#0557: 144hz
Muse#0557: Etc
Abe.#3344: I guess above 60hz would be nice
Abe.#3344: A 75hz or 90hz monitor would be a good improvement
JustinXenyx#8854: Although:
JustinXenyx#8854: I would ask him if he prefers refresh rate or panel quality
JustinXenyx#8854: You can get some alright IPS panels at budget prices, but higher refresh rate monitors still have a hefty premium on them
Abe.#3344: True true
Abe.#3344: But it honk anything would be an improvement on his non-gaming laptop
Abe.#3344: He says he prefers panel quality
Abe.#3344: He does play some Civ 6 so I guess it would be better for that
Artucuno#1898: how do I make windows 10 faster? |
My PC Specs:
```
Core2 Quad
4GB DDR2
No GPU
3 HDDs
```
Idk I have tried alot of things but they haven't worked
Muse#0557: What sort of pc do you have?
DarknessFalls229#2286: i suggest more ram
Muse#0557: Prebuilt?
DarknessFalls229#2286: ~~what GPU do you have?~~ cant read
Artucuno#1898: Hp Compaq dx7400 microtower
Artucuno#1898: It doesnt support more ram :/ |
Muse#0557: Do you have a budget in mind?
Artucuno#1898: yea I dont have much money
Baus#4058: If I'm not mistaken there is a new lightweight version of Windows 10
Baus#4058: uses the same Key as normal Windows so you can switch for free back and forth
Artucuno#1898: ah
Artucuno#1898: where can I get it?
Baus#4058: Windows site
Artucuno#1898: kk
Artucuno#1898: May I have a link please
Baus#4058: where you download the windows 10 installer it comes bundled with it
Baus#4058: yea gimme a sec
Muse#0557: If that doesnt work you may need to save up a bit
Artucuno#1898: kk
DarknessFalls229#2286: i dont remember the specifics but you can strip down an windows iso from its features so it uses less resources
Artucuno#1898: cool 🙂 |
DarknessFalls229#2286: Also an SSD is very nice
DarknessFalls229#2286: even if its 64GB or 120GB its still good
Baus#4058: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO
Artucuno#1898: yea :/
Artucuno#1898: thanks
Baus#4058: the lightweight version has an N in the end of it
DarknessFalls229#2286: after like 3 years i still use an old 120GB SSD
Artucuno#1898: kk
Artucuno#1898: but how do I switch exactly? Do I just burn a disc and reinstall it?
Baus#4058: you can use rufus
Baus#4058: a great tool for creating iso
DarknessFalls229#2286: well
JustinXenyx#8854: Windows 10N isn't a lite version
DarknessFalls229#2286: the windows website has a help program to do it for you
Muse#0557: Use a usb over disc |
Muse#0557: Isnt N oem
Baus#4058: comes with out media player cortana and alot of bloat
Artucuno#1898: ah ok
DarknessFalls229#2286: you can download the program and itll prompt you to either download the iso or install it to DVD/USB
Artucuno#1898: kk
Baus#4058: there is also a good video on how to reduce unnecessary windows services
Baus#4058: i dont know if im allowed to link another youtuber's video
Artucuno#1898: oh
Muse#0557: Windows 10 N doesnt improve performance
Muse#0557: to my knowledge
TheGeekster#8508: yeah you can link a video as long as it's relevant
Muse#0557: just guts video play back
Baus#4058: oh okay
Baus#4058: https://youtu.be/IU5F01oOzQQ
Artucuno#1898: Thanks 😄 |
Muse#0557: Baus does it actually improve performance tho
Baus#4058: @Muse i heard on forums that they got better boot times uskng it
Muse#0557: Because its alot of hassle compared to just disabling all the features yourself anyway
Baus#4058: yea @Artucuno can watch the video and skip the windows N install
Muse#0557: Artucuno are you already on 10?
Muse#0557: Oh right he is installing an ssd possibly
Baus#4058: just don't forget to check for a Dram cache on that ssd
Baus#4058: some say dram less ssds are as slow
Muse#0557: Might also be worth getting a graphics card
DarknessFalls229#2286: dramless SSD are good multiple minute bursts but are slow after
DarknessFalls229#2286: so good for gaming and OS related things, but rubbish with big file transfers and productivity
Muse#0557: I would recommend a HD 7750 and 120GB SSD
Muse#0557: For less than $50
Baus#4058: could get a 32gb ssd just for os and a couple of key programs
DarknessFalls229#2286: pretty much any GPU is better than integrated 775 |
Baus#4058: shouldn't cost more than 30$
DarknessFalls229#2286: bruh a new 120GB ssd should be like 25$
Baus#4058: I'm sorry where i live prices are really high
Baus#4058: 1050ti for 375
DarknessFalls229#2286: jesus
Muse#0557: Where do you live?
Baus#4058: and you would be a really lucky guy to find a radeon
TheGeekster#8508: 32gb ssd isn't enough for Windows btw, windows update with basically brick itself
Baus#4058: weirdly cpus are really cheap
Baus#4058: @Muse lebanon
Muse#0557: Ah
tdp2612#3835: yeah 32 is nowhere near enough
tdp2612#3835: 60 is ok if you dont put anything else on it, but i got to a point where i couldnt update my drivers because i had about 10 gig of mods on it
Abe.#3344: Does anyone have any good budget IPS monitor suggestions?
tdp2612#3835: 120 is a nice comfortable number if you want a cheap ssd |
DarknessFalls229#2286: >10gig of mods
theres your problem
tdp2612#3835: yeah but thats nothing
DarknessFalls229#2286: been happily using a 120GB SSD for years now
Muse#0557: @Artucuno Is your tower an ssf or mini tower
tdp2612#3835: i jumped straight from 60 to 240, ill get a 1tb when theyre like £50
DarknessFalls229#2286: now that i realize, the smallest SSD that i own is in my main pc, while the largest one is in my testbench
DarknessFalls229#2286: for years now
Artucuno#1898: microtower
Artucuno#1898: https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c01155744
Muse#0557: Are you located in the uk?
Artucuno#1898: No im in Australia
Muse#0557: Oh
Muse#0557: I would look for a hd 6750 or something if i were you
Muse#0557: something that doesnt require a 6 pin |
Muse#0557: and can be had for less than $25 ish aussie
Muse#0557: then throw in a 120gb ssd
Artucuno#1898: kk
DarknessFalls229#2286: pretty much anything that dont require external power and has dx11 support
Muse#0557: Mhmm i saw a 0.5gb for £16 shipped on ebay
Artucuno#1898: You mean a graphics card?
Muse#0557: Yes
Artucuno#1898: I have one im just waiting for the correct cables from china :/
Muse#0557: What graphics card do you have?
Artucuno#1898: Radeon HD 6870 1GB
Muse#0557: That wont work
Muse#0557: You have an unrated 250w power supply
Artucuno#1898: ah ok
Artucuno#1898: brb I have to do work :/
Baus#4058: does the compaq has propriety psu connections? |
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah eventhough TDP aint accurate, i wouldnt pair a 150 watt card with a 250 watt psu
DarknessFalls229#2286: probably baus
Muse#0557: It doesnt
tdp2612#3835: at least it supports quads
tdp2612#3835: you sure
Muse#0557: I meant it doesnt work with a 250w
tdp2612#3835: thats the sort of era they had weird small psu connectors for motherboard power
Baus#4058: i would say if no get a new psu but honestly at that point you are close to a full rebuild
tdp2612#3835: like the 24 pins were 3/4 size
Muse#0557: Get a low powered radeon
Muse#0557: Honestly aslong as it can play early 2010 games and video playback
Muse#0557: Better than Core 2 intergrated
Baus#4058: honestly anything is better than 775 chipset graphics
Muse#0557: Im putting together some things
Racey#8574: I wonder if a raw HEDT CPU powering graphics would be more powerful than an old flagship GPU |
Muse#0557: So the HP does support 8GB ram
DarknessFalls229#2286: AMD APUs with vega graphics are pretty great today, intel is less great with their IGPUs but theyve progressed quite a bit over the years. it just depends now on how old your flagship GPU needs to be, also worse drivers on older GPUs or less support for older games on new CPUs
Racey#8574: I'm talking about raw CPU power alone
Racey#8574: No assisting with rendering graphics
DarknessFalls229#2286: oh
Racey#8574: Like that Threadripper running Crysis thing
DarknessFalls229#2286: thats quite different
DarknessFalls229#2286: Threadripper finally being powerful enough to render crysis, a game that a flagship from more than 10 years ago can run
DarknessFalls229#2286: wheres @JustinXenyx at?
Muse#0557: So @Artucuno @Baus Baus it would be helpful if you could check over this and give another set of eyes,... Artucuno your tower does support 8GB of DDR2 on the 4x2GB format.. Below are links to the best value SSD, a graphics card that can play some decent xbox 360 era games and the nessecary ram (Since Cex only lets you order 2 sticks per catergory there are 2 links to basically identical ram)
Muse#0557: https://www.amazon.com.au/120GB-Green-2-5-inch-SATA/dp/B076XWDN6V/ref=sr_1_26?keywords=120gb+ssd&qid=1585175836&sr=8-26&swrs=D0DABF921D06D93146F99F75D2846F77
https://au.webuy.com/product-detail?id=sgraatihd66701gb&categoryName=graphics-cards-pci-e&superCatName=computing&title=ati-radeon-turks-hd-6670-1gb-dx11
https://au.webuy.com/product-detail?id=smem8bsd&categoryName=memory-desktop-ddr2&superCatName=computing&title=2-gb-pc5300-ddr2-667mhz-240-pin-memory |
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Artucuno#1898: Its also $3 AUD postage per stick :/ https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/692507946784915497/EnkguiHAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC.png
Muse#0557: Per stick?
Artucuno#1898: yea
DarknessFalls229#2286: riiiiight
Muse#0557: brb
Muse#0557: ill fix that
DarknessFalls229#2286: CeX was a bit fucky with shipping
Muse#0557: didnt realise it was that bad on ram
DarknessFalls229#2286: like i dont think they charge per batch, but per item
Artucuno#1898: and you can only buy 2 per item on shopping
Muse#0557: lemme see whats on ebay
Muse#0557: hold tight
Artucuno#1898: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/692508271306866858/UiABEiABEiABEiABEiABEiABEiABEiABEiABEiABEjAiwl4RFjwYh4cOgmQAAmQAAmQAAmQAAmQAAmQAAmQAAmQAAmQAAmQAAmQw.png
Artucuno#1898: kk
Baus#4058: tis really good for a pretty locked down pre built |
Muse#0557: i cant see the proper shipping prices for the ram
Muse#0557: so it might take a little bit
Artucuno#1898: brb im in a test XD
Muse#0557: How come australia has such a dead online market
Artucuno#1898: idk
Muse#0557: There are like 3 sticks of ram and a bbq on ebay
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: They use Gumtree, their homegrown version of Ebay.
Muse#0557: Gumtree is local
Muse#0557: And yeh ik about them having a strong local market
Muse#0557: But there is nothing on ebay and amazon
Muse#0557: Artucuno can you give me an australia postcode somewhere but not too close to your area
Muse#0557: So i can change my location on ebay
Muse#0557: @Artucuno
Artucuno#1898: 2259
Muse#0557: Just 4 numbers? |
Muse#0557: Going to be honest getting 6gb of ram at Cex for $18 AUS is the cheapest for you
Muse#0557: Go with that and the other things
Muse#0557: Remember to use both links so that you can add 3 to your basket
Muse#0557: idk why i spent so much time working this out
Artucuno#1898: thanks for your help I really appreciate it 😄
Artucuno#1898: I actually got the tower for free at a pc fair and the person that gave it to me said he stole it from his divorced wife so idk
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: wot
Artucuno#1898: lol
Racey#8574: I wish still we had CeX here in the US
Artucuno#1898: I wish CeX had more items :/
Jam#0384: I wish
Jam#0384: Found pc in trash
Jam#0384: I will take home
Jam#0384: Upgrade it
Jam#0384: Meme |
Muse#0557: The broken english just broke me
Muse#0557: Im laughing a little too much
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/cranbourne-north/components/kingston-hyperx-ddr2-4gb-4x1gb-pc2-6400-800mhz-ram/1244316940
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Oh wow.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Aussie magic is real.
Jam#0384: DDR2 is dirt cheap
Jam#0384: Even nice Corsair sticks
Jam#0384: ddr2 is cheaper than ddr1 and ddr3
Muse#0557: There was sod all ddr2 on au ebay on cex
Jam#0384: Ddr1 is gotten old enough to increase in price again
Jam#0384: DDR2 hasn’t
Jam#0384: Most sticks are practically worthless
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Why get a HD 6670 @Muse ?
Muse#0557: Needs to be cheap, avaliable shipped in australia and be powered through pci-e
Muse#0557: Which not alot of things meet that criteria |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/westmead/components/asus-video-card-radeon-r7-240/1244187926
Muse#0557: Pick up
Muse#0557: During this time
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Oh.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Oops.
Muse#0557: Now you see why a hd 6670 is the best i can do?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I see.
Muse#0557: And its leagues better than gma intergrated
Muse#0557: you can dabble into fallout 4
Muse#0557: and easily play 360 era games
Muse#0557: and have smooth video playback
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/dural/components/amd-radeon-r5-240-1gb-pci-e-low-profile-dvi-display-port-gfx-card/1244186849
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: How do I know If this is pickup-only?
Muse#0557: You dont
Muse#0557: But its gumtree |
Muse#0557: A local app
Muse#0557: Unlikely to go through the hassle of posting
Muse#0557: The 6670 is also stronger than the R7 240
Muse#0557: So its definetly better than the R5 240
Artucuno#1898: Omg https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/blackalls-park/other-electronics-computers/vintage-computer-parts-gold-recovery/1244354602?utm_source=com.discord&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=android_VIP_sticky
Muse#0557: Those looks like a bunch junk laptop cpus for the most part
Muse#0557: Gonna need a few minutes to process the older black ones
Muse#0557: Oh
Artucuno#1898: Yea but there is a Pentium overdrive there aswell lol
Muse#0557: Pentium 2 cards
Muse#0557: @Jam
Artucuno#1898: Yea lol
Muse#0557: Your domain
Muse#0557: Feel like most of it is junk
Muse#0557: And he will charge you like $500 for it all |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: > ( its installing from a flash drive so it decided to install *too* the same flash drive killing itself)
@the aggresive toilet flusher alright i fixed that FINALLY
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: u just create a winpe usb flash drive
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: and copy script and test_tool and images from the firmware to the flash drive root
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: and boot and it all should go well
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: what a crappy install
Muse#0557: Did you just @ yourself?
Lady Mipha#0611: Yes, yes he did
Flannel84#2980: Does anyone know what Warzone would hate/not want to boot with my DDR4 3200 clocked to anything higher/3533?
TheFifthAce#4128: warzone is buggy as fuck
TheFifthAce#4128: its the programs fault
TheFifthAce#4128: refuses outright to boot on my machine no matter the settings
Flannel84#2980: I kept getting Dev Error 5624. I lowered my ram to it's rated 3200 and then I could reach that first cutscene of 3 guys walking through a wrecked airport or something.
Flannel84#2980: And then it'd freeze when the first guy got hit. So I put it back up to 3533 and shall now wait for a damn update to make the game actually playable.
Artucuno#1898: yep |
tdp2612#3835: https://www.engadget.com/2020-03-25-hacker-steals-source-code-for-xbox-series-x-graphics.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAM36qdG2jfqQ4Zt7MyKT71EcDOXPYJDYkQPXALUijBXaUrwOxfjKgiLu2VH-YAqmBxkbXPpn1J-v99TuTYfuz_mq2eXGU10zK0kjMgVXHBCn-hc4HCDajNC9fvSoi3CoYA017dUy5AG0S0ZjM1xBbEB_V44KPqTSSViu8_i6uqOa
MythologicalZ#3752: Nice link
tdp2612#3835: ikr
layton#0621: I’ve got a bit of an issue. Every time I turn on my PC, it goes straight to the Startup Settings menu, and then everything stops responding. I don’t know if it’s not detecting my keyboard or if it’s genuinely froze.
layton#0621: might be my keyboard as when I press caps lock/num lock nothing happens
Flannel84#2980: do you have a PS/2 keyboard to try testing with?
Flannel84#2980: That's my go to if my USB keyboard acts up
layton#0621: nope haven't had one since 2015
Flannel84#2980: those are my go to for testing, but have you messed with anything in the BIOS recently? That can be a cause as well.
Flannel84#2980: Or is this just a "One day I turned it off and now it's doing this weird thing"
layton#0621: the latter
Flannel84#2980: hmmm. Tried a different USB port or keyboard?
Flannel84#2980: I'm curious as to if since it goes straight to the startup settings menu if there is an issue with one or the other.
Flannel84#2980: You could try getting into safe mode and see if the keyboard responds then.
Budget#8265: @Tech Helper I call on thee |
Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/692883619882074182/Rev_1.png
Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/692883624793473125/Rev_2.png
Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/692883629512065145/Rev_3.png
Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/692883672289771600/unknown.png
Budget#8265: Yet my card claims a release in 2007
Budget#8265: Is that judt a dodge Palit BIOS you fellas reckon cause im putting it down to that
Budget#8265: Lmfao this is so confusing
Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/692888458288562186/Rev_1_Specs.png
Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/692888467629146202/Rev_2_Specs.png
Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/692888477481828412/Rev_3_Specs.png
Jam#0384: It's bullshittery
Budget#8265: Ima be real wichu cheif
Jam#0384: They're probably just using an older BIOS
Budget#8265: Yeah id imagine
Jam#0384: Don't see any reason why it wouldn't work |
Jam#0384: Yours has DDR2 right?
Budget#8265: But i just find it funny that the Rev 2, the worst one was also sold with GDDR RAM
Budget#8265: Yeah
Budget#8265: Its so dumb
Budget#8265: We truely do live in a society
Jam#0384: Yeah you'd think theyd save nice VRAM for a 16core
Jam#0384: but nah
Jam#0384: shove it on the shit model
Jam#0384: but then again
Jam#0384: I have two 256MB FX **5200s**
Jam#0384: 256MB, hamish
Budget#8265: 256MB
Budget#8265: Same as my 8400GS
nice
Jam#0384: lord you have the shittiest 8400gs |
Jam#0384: not even 512mb
Budget#8265: Eh i dont
Budget#8265: I have a 16 Core
Budget#8265: But yeah 256MB
Muse#0557: Shouldn't they have different names
Budget#8265: nope
Budget#8265: This was a very misleading release
Muse#0557: I mean logically
Budget#8265: They were all the 8400GS
Muse#0557: Not in reality
Muse#0557: Pull a cortina
Muse#0557: Have a GXL
Muse#0557: 3000E
Alcyone#2233: I tried looking it up on tpu. Nobody has ever dumped a palit 8400gs bios and no others have a 70.xxxx bios. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/692902049507049522/unknown.png
Alcyone#2233: this checks out as gt218 though https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/692903677807165450/unknown.png |
Alcyone#2233: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/692903845927583774/unknown.png
Jam#0384: Of course it is
Alcyone#2233: it should be printed on the die if you dont mind taking the cooler off and wiping it down
Jam#0384: GPU-Z is reliabe
Jam#0384: As I said, just BIOS bullshittery
Alcyone#2233: im pretty sure it is a gt218 as it says, just ended up with the budget 256mb version of the by then very budget 8400gs.
Alcyone#2233: not like extra vram would help an 8400gs anyways
Jam#0384: im sure it helps a little with running gaymes at higher res
Jam#0384: slightly
Sentient Potato#6003: Yo does anyone know any good coolers for lga 775 that arent the stock dell xps 410 cooler?
Sentient Potato#6003: Reason i ask is because i noticed thermal throttling
Sentient Potato#6003: And im not talking about some slight throttling either. Im talking about break the world level throttling
tdp2612#3835: if mine turns up today, im gonna have an absolute powerhouse
tdp2612#3835: i cant tell what version it is though off the box
tdp2612#3835: none of the numbers ake any sense |
MythologicalZ#3752: Did you try repasting it
MythologicalZ#3752: Could be that and not the cooler
Budget#8265: Exactly why this product is so misleading
Baus#4058: hey guys
Baus#4058: anyone available for a little help?
TheFifthAce#4128: dont ask to ask
TheFifthAce#4128: whats the issue
KingGaurav#4771: So guys I need some help with my wifi card
KingGaurav#4771: its a 2.4Ghz 300mbps tplink card
Baus#4058: oh okay sorry
TheFifthAce#4128: @KingGaurav whats wrong with it
Baus#4058: my graphics card is having some unknown issues
Baus#4058: its running as expected hits the expected numbers in the benchmarks but suddenly black screen
kittycat959#2895: is it amd?
TheFifthAce#4128: is it navi |
Baus#4058: temps are good drivers updated and heatsink cleaned
Baus#4058: no tis a 1050ti
kittycat959#2895: oh that is wierd then
TheFifthAce#4128: what temps is it hitting
Baus#4058: 50max
Baus#4058: thats under 100 load
TheFifthAce#4128: any artifacting or is it just a blackscreen
Baus#4058: just black screen
kittycat959#2895: does it have enough power available to it @Baus ?
kittycat959#2895: 50c seems quite cool
Baus#4058: yea 550w power supply
TheFifthAce#4128: oh yeah is it an oem board?
Baus#4058: @kittycat959 fairly cold ambient temp where i live
kittycat959#2895: fair enough then
Baus#4058: @TheFifthAce tis an biostar board |
TheFifthAce#4128: :cringe: ok thats not the issue but still hinge
Baus#4058: h81mhp2
TheFifthAce#4128: does the fan still spin
Baus#4058: the wierd thing is i still get audio from it
Baus#4058: so it isn't dead
Baus#4058: @TheFifthAce yea normally
kittycat959#2895: when it does it try pressing windows + controll + shift + alt + b
kittycat959#2895: that restarts the graphics driver
Baus#4058: reset the drivers
Baus#4058: tried all the good ole tricks
Baus#4058: even ddu the drivers and fresh install
Baus#4058: tried to roll back a couple of drivers maybe it helps but na
kittycat959#2895: what game? @Baus
Baus#4058: no games
Baus#4058: desktop |
kittycat959#2895: that is odd
Baus#4058: completely random times
kittycat959#2895: know what time it does this at?
kittycat959#2895: or like around what time it did this last?
Baus#4058: started a month ago did it once
Baus#4058: took it out cleaned it and gave it new paste
kittycat959#2895: i mean like do you know the actual time its done it last?
Baus#4058: been great till it died on me in my differential test
kittycat959#2895: because we can look in event viewer
Baus#4058: @kittycat959 about 3 hours ago last time
KingGaurav#4771: > @KingGaurav whats wrong with it
@TheFifthAce So the router is in the hallway, and my pc is in the room basically next to the router, however a wall is present. I had to remove 1 of the antennas off my card due to it being very unreliable. Now problem is sometimes my internet speeds will be outright awful (my internet is rated at 100mbps, however sometimes my pc struggles to get 10) and the speed is good enough on my phone. Any ways I can fix this?
kittycat959#2895: go to the search bar in windows
kittycat959#2895: type event viewer @Baus
kittycat959#2895: @Baus https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/693142678854172672/unknown.png |
TheGeekster#8508: @KingGaurav Your card needs all the antennas... or you're basically running without antennas
KingGaurav#4771: > @KingGaurav Your card needs all the antennas... or you're basically running without antennas
@TheGeekster im running with 1 antenna, if I put the other back on it will either outright not work at all or will quit working after 20s
Baus#4058: @kittycat959 okay will check it out brb
kittycat959#2895: then go to the system log and have a look to see if anything freaked out around the time it went black last https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/693143106945810654/unknown.png
TheGeekster#8508: then there's something bigger wrong with that card man, or the antenna itself is broken, you can get replacement ones dirt cheap, but tbh another pcie wifi card from dlink isn't that much more
KingGaurav#4771: I do have a spare antenna from a broken usb adapter
KingGaurav#4771: Ill try that
KingGaurav#4771: as its the same fitment
Baus#4058: @kittycat959 just information
Baus#4058: Kernel-General
kittycat959#2895: absoloutley no errors or anything?
Baus#4058: oh okay never mind
Baus#4058: internal controller error
kittycat959#2895: send a screen cap |
kittycat959#2895: (win + shift + s)
Baus#4058: wait it died on me again
kittycat959#2895: phat rip
kittycat959#2895: try win + alt + shift + b @Baus
Baus#4058: i read vbox
kittycat959#2895: see if it does anything
Baus#4058: could it be the virtual machine?
kittycat959#2895: do you have one running?
Baus#4058: i had it for more than a year
Baus#4058: no o wasn't running it
kittycat959#2895: shouldnt cause an issue then
Baus#4058: nvidia service terminated eith following error: the device is not ready?
kittycat959#2895: ah ha
kittycat959#2895: we are getting somewhere
Baus#4058: thats 3 month back tho |
Baus#4058: this turned out to be much more complex and i have an exam in 11 mins
Baus#4058: not ideal
kittycat959#2895: oof
kittycat959#2895: on calculus?
kittycat959#2895: im afraid i have no clue then @Baus
Baus#4058: well thanks
Baus#4058: that even viewer can come handy will keep poking at it
kittycat959#2895: yeah its a good thing to use
DarknessFalls229#2286: Guys any idea why my Q8400 clocks so badly? I got it running 1.44v at 3.33GHz while my Q6600 can do 3.6GHz
DarknessFalls229#2286: Setting it to 3.46GHz will just not boot
tdp2612#3835: well yeah but the 6600 is famous for ocing well
Jam#0384: @DarknessFalls229 Q8400 moment
DarknessFalls229#2286: It be sloooow
DarknessFalls229#2286: Ive gotten the Q6600 at 3.78GHz at the same board before with auto voltage and now the Q8400 dont even on manual voltage
DarknessFalls229#2286: At least the 8800GTX sli with triple raid 0 SSDs |
SuSSudio#2688: Bad bin probably, but it's possible to cross 3.6ghz
vegetal#8870: how do . i get wireless on hp pavillion. windows XP?
TheGeekster#8508: @vegetal Please don't take Windows XP online, to get wifi you'd have to find a wifi card with windows xp drivers still
vegetal#8870: i have, laptop , HP want, onlin
vegetal#8870: ee
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Are you OK?
tdp2612#3835: ive taken mine online
Thomas_K#9216: +-
tdp2612#3835: hell i took mine online onto dodgy websites to get drivers
tdp2612#3835: clean install, nothing logged in though
xmassguy#1303: I have an amd fx 8350 black edition paired with a gtx 1060 6gb with 24gb of mix and matched 1333mhz ram 16gb usable in my pc what would yall recommend upgrading to be able to run fs 19 at 60 fps in 4k
tdp2612#3835: Farming sim is hardly hard to run
tdp2612#3835: But keep the 1066 as its a solid card, get a ryzen 2600, 1600, 1600af etc and 16 gigs of decent speed ram
tdp2612#3835: And a reasonable board to give some room for upgrade in the future, not the cheapest one you can find
xmassguy#1303: my current cpu is well within the useable spec i cant afford to go to the new socket yet but i think the 4k at 60 fps is my 1060 |
tdp2612#3835: Why do you need 4k
xmassguy#1303: i would like to run 4k
tdp2612#3835: And an 8350 will completely cuck a 1066
tdp2612#3835: Its a shit tier cpu no matter who you ask, 8c 4t near enough
xmassguy#1303: this may seem a silly question to most but ive been out of the pc hardware realm when the gtx 1050 ti came out so im not fully understanding what threads do
tdp2612#3835: Threads are like cores except they arent
tdp2612#3835: I'm not really qualified to explain, my knowledge goes as far as more=better essentially
xmassguy#1303: ok thank you
xmassguy#1303: This is a picture of my computer from a while back but it has been the same since the picture https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/693651285139914813/20190314_195703.jpg
xmassguy#1303: i would probly need a new case for ryzen so i would pretty much just build a whole new pc except for gpu and hdd
tdp2612#3835: Oh god and a firestarter psu
xmassguy#1303: its an evga 600 80+
xmassguy#1303: it had an arrow 500 watt with out any pci e connecors so thats why i switched when i gotmy old 9 or 7 series card
BigPierogi#3368: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/
BigPierogi#3368: can this site please be pinned |
Muse#0557: @xmassguy You would bit need a new case for ryzen... I don't see why you think this... I would recommend to a 1600af aswell, if you can't afford this don't torture yourself with 4k if your pc can't do it, you won't notice the different between 1440p but you will notice the game chopping and stuttering
Xbox 360 1953#2640: how did you get that gpu in there
TheFifthAce#4128: @BigPierogi no because that tier list is awful?
TheFifthAce#4128: genuinely useless tier list
xmassguy#1303: @Xbox 360 1953 i used a pair of tin snips to cut the lower hdd rack out for my old 9 or 7 series card (i cant remember what it was) but my 1060 fit in the hole
CheetahPixie#4257: neat
xmassguy#1303: is a ryzen 1600 with a B450M 16gb of ram and a 600 watt evga psu a good deal for 260 usd
tdp2612#3835: what 600w evga psu though
tdp2612#3835: and what speed ram
JustinXenyx#8854: could you be a little more specific?
xmassguy#1303: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ryzen5-1600-combo-w-B450M-w-16g-ram-4x4-w-evga-600wPSU/174234691694?hash=item289132686e:g:9dQAAOSwPwVegM7C
tdp2612#3835: its probably a tad bit expensive anyway, but it could be reasonable if its half good
xmassguy#1303: that is listing
JustinXenyx#8854: Well that's a yikes
Xbox 360 1953#2640: oof |
tdp2612#3835: thermaltake>evga?
Muse#0557: Umm
JustinXenyx#8854: @tdp2612 either of them are trash in the low end
Muse#0557: It depends
tdp2612#3835: well yeah
tdp2612#3835: but id trust the seller less
tdp2612#3835: i wouldnt trust the psu for either :frobotmoment:
xmassguy#1303: i would probly upgrade psu any way
JustinXenyx#8854: the PSU is pretty trashy, the motherboard is pretty bad, the RAM configuration is just weird
Muse#0557: It's probably a 600w 80+
tdp2612#3835: wait no
JustinXenyx#8854: I would pay barely 180 with the garbage PSU
tdp2612#3835: it is evga, just in wrong box
Muse#0557: That's a 80+ psu
tdp2612#3835: yeah its one of those 80+ no rating |
Muse#0557: The bronze ones have well bronze text
xmassguy#1303: looks like 80+ silver
tdp2612#3835: nah
tdp2612#3835: if it was silver, it would say
tdp2612#3835: thats 80+ white, ie no colour at all
tdp2612#3835: so 100% firestarter over 400w
Muse#0557: Evga don't do silver
Xbox 360 1953#2640: it doesn't specify ram speed either
tdp2612#3835: yeah
tdp2612#3835: id skip it just on the lack of details
Xbox 360 1953#2640: and could be ae
tdp2612#3835: no details = 2133 i would assume
Muse#0557: How much is shipping
xmassguy#1303: free
Muse#0557: Let's work out what it's worth 2 secs |
xmassguy#1303: he does say everything is negotiable
tdp2612#3835: id say being that its already put together and working, 180
tdp2612#3835: but thats me guessing no research
Muse#0557: $70 1600
$45 B450
$50 16GB
$30 PSU
Muse#0557: It's only worth about 200
Muse#0557: And that's just an okey price at 200
Muse#0557: Not a good one
tdp2612#3835: ask him if hell do 150 and he can keep the psu
tdp2612#3835: hell probably tell you to fuck off tbh
Muse#0557: Are you keeping the pc?
Muse#0557: Honestly the psu is fine for a 1060 or something
Xbox 360 1953#2640: bad psu |
Xbox 360 1953#2640: no touch
JustinXenyx#8854: 70 usd is way too much for a used 1600 @Muse
tdp2612#3835: nah that seems about right
xmassguy#1303: ok a new B350 with a ryzen 1600 and 16 gb of gskil Flare X Seris
Muse#0557: Idk US Prices
JustinXenyx#8854: 1600AF, which is essentially a 2600, goes for 15 dollars more new
Muse#0557: I think 70 is about right
JustinXenyx#8854: Given the 1600AF exists something around 50 is more accurate
tdp2612#3835: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC1.A0.H0.Xryzen+1600.TRS1&_nkw=ryzen+1600&_sacat=0
Muse#0557: Just because it should be that way
JustinXenyx#8854: 1600AF essentially cucked R5 1600 resale value
Muse#0557: Doesn't mean it is
tdp2612#3835: tell me where you see them going for way less than 70
Muse#0557: Justin it's bad value but reality is reality
JustinXenyx#8854: the mistake is looking on eBay, that stuff is always marked higher because of the eBay tax @tdp2612 |
tdp2612#3835: the same place as the thing he was looking at
Muse#0557: My brain
tdp2612#3835: which is why it would make sense to base prices for something sold on ebay, by making it up out of ebay prices
TheFifthAce#4128: hi I am here
TheFifthAce#4128: what is needed
Muse#0557: Hello
Muse#0557: Is a 1600 worth 70 or 50
Muse#0557: In realtiy
TheFifthAce#4128: 50
Muse#0557: Where are you guys buying shit from
TheFifthAce#4128: af is 85 new
TheFifthAce#4128: so h
Muse#0557: We dont mean what it should be
Muse#0557: But if you go online and go to buy one
Muse#0557: What amount is it |
TheFifthAce#4128: why should that matter
MythologicalZ#3752: https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Stealth-Cooler/dp/B07XTQZJ28/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=1600+AF&qid=1585509781&sr=8-1
Muse#0557: Because he is looking at a 1600
Muse#0557: It's a bundle
TheFifthAce#4128: 1600af is 85, paying anything close to that for a used 1600ae is not worth
Muse#0557: Today is just a brain hemorrhage
Muse#0557: I need coffee
MythologicalZ#3752: :Mainman:
Xbox 360 1953#2640: bundle is 1600(unknown version) b450 ds3h 4x4gb ram of unknown speed and evga 600w 80+
tdp2612#3835: :Frobot:
TheFifthAce#4128: evga is bomb
JustinXenyx#8854: it's a regular 1600 @Xbox 360 1953
tdp2612#3835: he said hes been using it for a year
TheFifthAce#4128: 4x4 is bad for ryzen
JustinXenyx#8854: People that sell 1600AF specify it as 1600AF |
tdp2612#3835: i didnt think the af has been out that long
TheFifthAce#4128: ds3h is lame mobo
Xbox 360 1953#2640: ah
TheFifthAce#4128: how much is that combo
Xbox 360 1953#2640: 260
Muse#0557: 260
tdp2612#3835: i thought 4x4 would be better than 2x8 though
xmassguy#1303: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/693903506259837019/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: FUCK NO
Muse#0557: We said to offer 180
Muse#0557: And if he says piss off then so be it
TheFifthAce#4128: @tdp2612 4x4 is worse for the IMC
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I'd just not touch it
tdp2612#3835: ah
TheFifthAce#4128: the psu and ram are waste |
xmassguy#1303: that is what i found on amazon
JustinXenyx#8854: @tdp2612 4x4 would be better on CPUs with quad channel, Ryzen only has dual channel
Muse#0557: Is that 250 @xmassguy
Muse#0557: 252
JustinXenyx#8854: Hell, i think you can build a 1600AF combo for right around 260
xmassguy#1303: 253.80 usd
Muse#0557: That's without a psu tho
TheFifthAce#4128: b350 prime isnt compatible
JustinXenyx#8854: the PSU is LITERAL trash though
Xbox 360 1953#2640: that ram slow
TheFifthAce#4128: @Muse the evga psu is ewaste
Muse#0557: I mean it works
TheFifthAce#4128: no
Muse#0557: It's not going to blow up
xmassguy#1303: i have used that same psu for the last 3 years its been fine |
TheFifthAce#4128: "my experience is fine so ignore the expert guys"
TheFifthAce#4128: funwaa
TheFifthAce#4128: are you an antivaxxer too
JustinXenyx#8854: The problem is that those power supplies are built like ass, so they are essentially a time bomb
xmassguy#1303: no and im not going against what you are saying
JustinXenyx#8854: @TheFifthAce dude kick it down a notch, aggression is not gonna help
Muse#0557: Is Sunday just hell day
TheFifthAce#4128: those psus are only rated to perform at 25c, which is ambient in most places, higher temperatures mean spiraling inefficiency and overheating components which can quickly lead to failures
Muse#0557: Canada tho
TheFifthAce#4128: 25c is nothing, your CPU will idle at 25c even in canada
xmassguy#1303: north usa
TheFifthAce#4128: your PSU definitely gets over 25c especially if you put it over 30% load
JustinXenyx#8854: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vrJt6R Even with the 1600AF being not available, this is 4 dollars more than the used 1600 combo and it has a better motherboard and a better ram configuration, but we "sacrificed" the EVGA psu for that
TheFifthAce#4128: psu was ewaste anyways
Muse#0557: xmass do you even need the psu |
xmassguy#1303: no
Muse#0557: ._.
JustinXenyx#8854: He said he was gonna upgrade the PSU either way if it is needed iirc
Muse#0557: I was under the impression from you saying it was fine that you did
Xbox 360 1953#2640: 1600af is still on amazon, dunno what pcpp is doing rn with not showing amazon stuff
Xbox 360 1953#2640: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XTQZJ28
Muse#0557: Matt it's because they have no way to check if a board is compatible
xmassguy#1303: is a GA-A320M-S2H 1600af compatable
TheFifthAce#4128: its compatible
JustinXenyx#8854: not for 85 dollars and only from weird third partys @Xbox 360 1953
TheFifthAce#4128: no
TheFifthAce#4128: dont buy an a320
Xbox 360 1953#2640: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/693905214184620203/unknown.png
xmassguy#1303: i said the psu is fine bc its the same one i have
Muse#0557: That's a 1600 |
TheFifthAce#4128: cring
Muse#0557: Not an af
JustinXenyx#8854: read @Muse
TheFifthAce#4128: it literally says afbox
Xbox 360 1953#2640: it literally says af in the listing
JustinXenyx#8854: 1600bbafbox
TheFifthAce#4128: you are blind
Muse#0557: No need to be toxic
TheFifthAce#4128: and its not sketchy reseller, its the same amd authorized reseller I bought from
TheFifthAce#4128: I've bought dozens of those units from that same seller
Muse#0557: Sorry for not reading the string of letters at the end
JustinXenyx#8854: @Xbox 360 1953 Might be one of those weird things where it does not show it to me in germany
TheFifthAce#4128: very possible
Xbox 360 1953#2640: indeed
JustinXenyx#8854: because when i check on my US machine, i can see it fine |
Muse#0557: They are doing a poor job of advertising whether it's a 1600 or 1600af
Xbox 360 1953#2640: :frobotmoment:
MythologicalZ#3752: :Frobot:
Xbox 360 1953#2640: easy way to find out is to read said string of letters
Muse#0557: What's the easiest to tell
Muse#0557: Because on mobile and alot of ads
TheFifthAce#4128: its in the serial number
TheFifthAce#4128: thats the only way to tell
Muse#0557: It won't show that string
TheFifthAce#4128: they dont advertise it as a different cpu
MythologicalZ#3752: Find in page and search AF
MythologicalZ#3752: Assuming chrome on mobile
Muse#0557: It's so dull
Muse#0557: Just put af in after 1600
Muse#0557: Why not advertise yes this is better |
Muse#0557: More value
Muse#0557: Please buy
JustinXenyx#8854: That is the catch
Xbox 360 1953#2640: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/693906180568907856/Screenshot_20200329-153518_Amazon_Shopping.jpg
JustinXenyx#8854: the 1600AF was supposed to be a silent switchout
Muse#0557: The marketing team need to be sacked
JustinXenyx#8854: Because they did not have any 14nm silicon around anymore and producing the 1600AF on 12nm is cheaper
Muse#0557: Is there any spec difference?
Muse#0557: Is the tdp the same
TheFifthAce#4128: yes its different
TheFifthAce#4128: it's a ryzen 5 2600
TheFifthAce#4128: its not a ryzen 5 1600 in any way but name
JustinXenyx#8854: TDP is bullshit and you can read why in the pinned messages
Muse#0557: I mean for checking
Muse#0557: Ik what it is |
Muse#0557: Ik it's better
TheFifthAce#4128: you can check in cpu z to see that its 12nm
Muse#0557: That doesn't work for a listing
Muse#0557: Opening cpu z is for when it's in a pc
xmassguy#1303: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/693906604751454288/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: if its not in a pc you just look at the serial number
xmassguy#1303: will that all work
TheFifthAce#4128: it will have AF at the end if its an AF
TheFifthAce#4128: @xmassguy dont get that mobo
Xbox 360 1953#2640: @xmassguy I'd go with faster ram
TheFifthAce#4128: oh wait misread
JustinXenyx#8854: That RAM is way too expensive for being so slow @xmassguy
JustinXenyx#8854: You need atleast 3000Mhz ram
TheFifthAce#4128: ^
Muse#0557: Why is the imagine so low res |
TheFifthAce#4128: or get 2400 at 1.2v
xmassguy#1303: what speed ram would you rwecomend
TheFifthAce#4128: @Muse hit "open original"
Muse#0557: 3000mhz
Muse#0557: Try get 3200
JustinXenyx#8854: @xmassguy 3000Mhz as a minimum, anything over that is just bonus or wasted money depending on how much more it is
Muse#0557: I think I'm going to try get some sleep then tomorrow put a pc together
xmassguy#1303: https://www.amazon.com/V-Color-3200MHz-PC4-25600-Desktop-TL48G32S8KGRGB16/dp/B07YP5RQ8W/ref=sr_1_17_sspa?crid=2PJ2X1940A5R2&dchild=1&keywords=3200mhz+ddr4+16gb&qid=1585510718&sprefix=3200mhz%2Caps%2C160&sr=8-17-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyN1JHTEpGMjZLM1BCJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNDM2MTYwMzFENEhDQ1lWWlQ3TCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwODgyMjMyMlhCOEsxQzgxSzU3WCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2J0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
xmassguy#1303: sorry long link but that is ram i found
JustinXenyx#8854: Wouldn't trust that product and still pretty expensive
Muse#0557: xmassguy go on pcpp filter selling by amazon and select 2933, 3000 and 3200 mhz
Muse#0557: And also 2x8gb
JustinXenyx#8854: you will always pay a massive premium on RGB stuffs btw
JustinXenyx#8854: a premium that makes no sense anyway
Xbox 360 1953#2640: amazon stuff doesn't show on pcpp for me https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/693907578882883678/unknown.png |
Muse#0557: On Us?
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Yes
Muse#0557: Odd
TheFifthAce#4128: yeah its being weird for me too
JustinXenyx#8854: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HSZYNN5/ i'd go with these, they don't look too bad and are actually reasonable in price
xmassguy#1303: 237.96 usd is my total for a 1600af B450M and a 16gb 3000mhz dual channel memory kit on amazon
xmassguy#1303: @JustinXenyx i just found that same kit
xmassguy#1303: gtx 1060 or gtx 1660 both 6gb models to go with a ryzen 1600af
MythologicalZ#3752: What prices, 1660 is the better card though
xmassguy#1303: im still lookin for a 1660 price and i currently have a 1060 6gb
MythologicalZ#3752: do you need the upgrade?
xmassguy#1303: zotac gtx 1660 amp edition 6gb gddr5 for 199.99 usd
xmassguy#1303: or an evga gtx 1650 sc ultra 4gb gddr5 for 149.99 usd
MythologicalZ#3752: 1650 is a downgrade from a 1060 6gb
JustinXenyx#8854: 1660 is only a minor upgrade to a 1060 |
JustinXenyx#8854: you barely gain 10% in performance or so but are paying 200 USD
Muse#0557: Get a used 1060 for $110
Muse#0557: Or a 6gb for $145 ish
Alcyone#2233: or an rx 580
Muse#0557: I keep forgetting that a RX 570 is half of the cost of a 1060
Muse#0557: Such a good deal
Muse#0557: But it doesn't sell well in a pc
Xbox 360 1953#2640: they already have 1066
xmassguy#1303: ok
xmassguy#1303: ok rx580 8gb or gtx 1060 6gb
JustinXenyx#8854: Realistically no difference between them
JustinXenyx#8854: like 5-10fps difference that sorta stuffs
xmassguy#1303: ok thank you
xmassguy#1303: this is probly another stupid question but is any psu unit that is 80+ silver bronze or gold ok and not fire starters
Xbox 360 1953#2640: There can be shit psus at any rating |
xmassguy#1303: evga coursair coolermaster thrmal take
CheetahPixie#4257: honest
CheetahPixie#4257: i'd still go with the 580 doe
JustinXenyx#8854: basically
JustinXenyx#8854: Avoid thermaltake for most stuff
JustinXenyx#8854: Cooler Master doesn't have bad stuff, but i don't know by heart which units are bad and which ones are not
JustinXenyx#8854: Corsairs budget lineup is legit decent
JustinXenyx#8854: EVGAs budget lineup should be kicked into the fucking garbage and stay there
CheetahPixie#4257: evga budget is *okay*
CheetahPixie#4257: at best
CheetahPixie#4257: and corsair low tier (new ones) are solid
CheetahPixie#4257: but old?
CheetahPixie#4257: ehhhhhhhhh
CheetahPixie#4257: no
JustinXenyx#8854: Well i'm talking about the current ones obviosuly |
JustinXenyx#8854: Why recommend old stuff that isn't being sold?
JustinXenyx#8854: EVGAs budget stuff isn't even okay, it's garbage
CheetahPixie#4257: cause old orange vs supplies are still being sold some places
CheetahPixie#4257: like here
CheetahPixie#4257: buncha fsps too
JustinXenyx#8854: FSP is a solid brand, but if i remember right their lower end units are kind of lacking
CheetahPixie#4257: kinda
CheetahPixie#4257: not the best
CheetahPixie#4257: but not the worst
CheetahPixie#4257: and evga ain't the worst either
CheetahPixie#4257: there are a whole mountain of worse
Xbox 360 1953#2640: @JustinXenyx do you know whether the corsair cv line is decent or not?
JustinXenyx#8854: absolutely no idea to be honest @Xbox 360 1953
xmassguy#1303: https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-VS650-Certified-Non-Modular-Supply/dp/B078HJ2RCW/ref=sr_1_148?dchild=1&keywords=700w+power+supply&qid=1585522149&s=electronics&sr=1-148
xmassguy#1303: is that a decent psu unit |
TheGeekster#8508: you can go by warranties to a degree, it has a 3 year warranty, so it *should* last 3 years
xmassguy#1303: im lookin for one that would last until i need an upgrade again
xmassguy#1303: https://www.amazon.com/MasterWatt-Semifanless-Modular-Certified-Computers/dp/B074ZLQZH6/ref=sr_1_200?dchild=1&keywords=700w+power+supply&qid=1585522762&s=electronics&sr=1-200
xmassguy#1303: there is annother one
drew442#3364: @TheGeekster 2 years, 11 months, 29 days
drew442#3364: @xmassguy was coin mining popular in your area? you could potentially pick up a 1200w platinum for cheap...
drew442#3364: are you canadian? do you have cheap hydro electricity? mining may have been popular...
xmassguy#1303: i live in a pretty rural area i could find four wheelers more eisily than gaming pc deals
xmassguy#1303: i have verry cheap hydro but im not quite in canida
drew442#3364: just like canada enough to use the flag as your pic ?
xmassguy#1303: im 50% canadian
TheFifthAce#4128: @Xbox 360 1953 @JustinXenyx CV is the same platform as VS but it's got bronze rating
TheFifthAce#4128: so its a bronze VS
Xbox 360 1953#2640: wew
Xbox 360 1953#2640: sounds great |
Sentient Potato#6003: Im running a vs 750 from 2017 (new old stock) definitely dependable
TheFifthAce#4128: no
TheFifthAce#4128: :crome:
TheFifthAce#4128: vs750 isnt a thing
TheFifthAce#4128: it capped at 650
TheFifthAce#4128: orange label VS is trash, grey label is passable
JustinXenyx#8854: Probably means CX750
TheFifthAce#4128: cx is good
Xbox 360 1953#2640: @TheFifthAce on a scale from bomb to whatever the best is, where does a cx550m land?
TheFifthAce#4128: 7/10
Sentient Potato#6003: i can't read
Sentient Potato#6003: it was cx
Sentient Potato#6003: curse my intermittent illiteracy
xmassguy#1303: on said scale bomb to 10 ware does a corsair vs 650 land
Sentient Potato#6003: M80 typically |
xmassguy#1303: can you re fraze that please
Sentient Potato#6003: Never seen an m80?
Sentient Potato#6003: They are essentially a quarter stick of dynamite
xmassguy#1303: oh ok
Sentient Potato#6003: Nowhere as big a boom but it still explodes
Jam#0384: Yeah
Jam#0384: VS is bad
Jam#0384: CX is passable
Jam#0384: and CS
JustinXenyx#8854: old VS is bad (orange label)
JustinXenyx#8854: the newer one is acceptable
TheFifthAce#4128: @xmassguy grey vs is 5/10
TheFifthAce#4128: orange vs is 0/10
Jam#0384: HXi>HX>RMi>RMx>CX/CS>VS. theres another type but I genuinely forgot
Sentient Potato#6003: AX? |
Jam#0384: That sounds right
Jam#0384: Thats above CX
TheFifthAce#4128: @Jam rmi more like rma
TheFifthAce#4128: tons of doas on rmi
TheFifthAce#4128: you're also missing tx
Jam#0384: Yes
Jam#0384: True
Jam#0384: I’ve had an issue with faulty RMx
Jam#0384: And HX
Jam#0384: bad luck with Corsair units but secondhand moment
TheFifthAce#4128: I got my rm850x for 50 regurb
Jam#0384: My CS650M straight vibing since 2015
TheFifthAce#4128: refurbr
TheFifthAce#4128: been vibing since 2017
Jam#0384: CS units are ok |
Jam#0384: But i mean
Jam#0384: Its been through 4770K and 780Ti
Jam#0384: So its load now is relatively calm
Jam#0384: Living in peace for the rest of its life. Will probably replace relatively soon and use for another system
Xbox 360 1953#2640: special price https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/694053179087913000/unknown.png
Jam#0384: hot
Xbox 360 1953#2640: i read about how 50 is how much used b450 should be, is this locally?
Jam#0384: b450 is often hardly above 50 new
Jam#0384: more for really nice boards
Jam#0384: 60-70 is common price
JustinXenyx#8854: relative to what board @Xbox 360 1953
JustinXenyx#8854: like a 80 dollar B450 board couldn't go for 70 used
JustinXenyx#8854: 50-60 depending on accessories and stuffs is basically the rough ground for those types of boards
JustinXenyx#8854: but like a B450M DS3H that sold for 65 bucks originally can go for like 30-40
Racey#8574: Lol I paid like $120 for my ASUS ROG B450-F Gaming board |
Jam#0384: That board is hot
Jam#0384: But like
Jam#0384: GTX 660 moment
Racey#8574: The high temps help my cold house
Muse#0557: How do I go from
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/694288241364303912/IMG_20200330_215253.jpg
Muse#0557: To
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/694288309718876210/IMG_20200330_215312.jpg
Muse#0557: For cheap
Muse#0557: Dm or @ me if you have an answer ty
DarknessFalls229#2286: how about those little 3.5mm AV adapter cables to those big plugs?
Muse#0557: Wdym
DarknessFalls229#2286: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/694289125351620618/05309733-fcbc-4d49-96c8-d41840d937c9.png
DarknessFalls229#2286: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/694289162756685864/61yAeYTuFPL.png
CheetahPixie#4257: @Muse which of those |
CheetahPixie#4257: usb? vga? composite? toslink? hdmi?
CheetahPixie#4257: idfk which one you want
CheetahPixie#4257: so uh
CheetahPixie#4257: wait
CheetahPixie#4257: why the fuck does the vga port say rgb in
CheetahPixie#4257: what even is that
CheetahPixie#4257: wait
CheetahPixie#4257: xbox?
Muse#0557: It's for a wii
CheetahPixie#4257: that black thing doesn't look like a wii lmao
Muse#0557: The black thing is a projector
Muse#0557: Sat on top of an xbox
CheetahPixie#4257: oh
CheetahPixie#4257: had to be
CheetahPixie#4257: it looked hella weird with its ports |
Muse#0557: Yeh it's got wierd 3.5mm ports
CheetahPixie#4257: i mean
Muse#0557: That accept the rca cables
Muse#0557: But they don't fit because of the metal shielding
CheetahPixie#4257: yeah those aren't 3.5mm jacks
Muse#0557: Cables are confusing
CheetahPixie#4257: https://www.amazon.com/Portta-Composite-Converter-Scaler-support/dp/B008S7EYW2 this will probably work tho
Muse#0557: So what would I plug the adapter into
CheetahPixie#4257: altho check if the av one accepts the yellow cable
DarknessFalls229#2286: i still stand with my 3.5mm AV to RCA adapter
CheetahPixie#4257: what use is that though
Muse#0557: I don't want to spend more on a upscaler than I did on the console
CheetahPixie#4257: not a single port there that is 3.5mm video
CheetahPixie#4257: so what prices are you looking for then
CheetahPixie#4257: $1? |
CheetahPixie#4257: you're not finding *anything* in that range
Muse#0557: They are physically 3.5mm
CheetahPixie#4257: and 20 is not expensive
DarknessFalls229#2286: dude, it literally says AV IN on the 3.5mm port
CheetahPixie#4257: wait
CheetahPixie#4257: oh
CheetahPixie#4257: the yellow *is* composite
Muse#0557: Ye
Muse#0557: It's dumb
CheetahPixie#4257: can just plug that straight in
Muse#0557: It doesn't fit
CheetahPixie#4257: and it has a headset below the 3.5mm jack
Muse#0557: The current cables don't fit
Muse#0557: They display a picture
Muse#0557: But because the ports are flat with the side |
Muse#0557: The cables are lose and the image is hella fuzzy
Muse#0557: @DarknessFalls229 Do I just get that adapter and plug it into av in
DarknessFalls229#2286: think so yeah
DarknessFalls229#2286: dont think it shouldnt be incompatible
Muse#0557: I appreciate pc cables so much more
CheetahPixie#4257: but
CheetahPixie#4257: how is that 3.5mm adapter supposed to do *anything*
Muse#0557: That's what I was thinking
DarknessFalls229#2286: it literally adapts the plugs into a smaller format
CheetahPixie#4257: wait
CheetahPixie#4257: yes
CheetahPixie#4257: but
CheetahPixie#4257: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/694296181265793024/unknown.png
CheetahPixie#4257: you sure that av thing is 3.5?
CheetahPixie#4257: 🤔 |
Muse#0557: Yeh
CheetahPixie#4257: if it is that's the gayest shit
DarknessFalls229#2286: if the headphones are 3.5 then the other should be too
CheetahPixie#4257: i mean
CheetahPixie#4257: take headset
Muse#0557: I tried plugging earphones into all of them
CheetahPixie#4257: try plugging it in
CheetahPixie#4257: just see what happens
CheetahPixie#4257: *size
Muse#0557: I plug the red cable into composite
Muse#0557: And yellow into av
Muse#0557: They didn't fit properly
Muse#0557: But I got a picture
Muse#0557: Shit is wierd
Xbox 360 1953#2640: you could get a wii2hdmi i think |
tdp2612#3835: yeah theyre decent
CheetahPixie#4257: hm
discoduck42069#8321: and i fit an atx power supply into an old ibm m50 case from 2002
CheetahPixie#4257: neat
discoduck42069#8321: yes or no
CheetahPixie#4257: what?
CheetahPixie#4257: you said you did
TheGeekster#8508: @discoduck42069 Probably not, but open it up and see if it's a standard power uspply
CheetahPixie#4257: i mean
CheetahPixie#4257: if it isn't some powerpc amalmagation
CheetahPixie#4257: it's almost definitely atx
CheetahPixie#4257: but that wasn't a question doe
CheetahPixie#4257: you said you did fit it
CheetahPixie#4257: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
TheGeekster#8508: i'm guessing it was just a typo |
VanGuard#4548: Can you overclock a P3 to 5 ghz??😂
discoduck42069#8321: @TheGeekster @CheetahPixie ok thanks for the answers
CheetahPixie#4257: @VanGuard you can take a p4 close to 9ghz afaik
MythologicalZ#3752: :Mainman:
SandNailFish#2888: am at intersection and have decision to make
SandNailFish#2888: have 2 775 boards, 4gb ddr2, q6600, unknown r9 270x (power supply no pci-e power). working on getting a good used unit for $28 to test card. was wondering if working towards an e5450 for $22 is a good option or should I begin saving up straightaway for a 2600 and b450m ds3h for $200. currently I have $56 and could save at least $35 per month (being a student with not much benefits). how do i continue? should i?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Just testing the card or for daily use?
SandNailFish#2888: the psu?
SandNailFish#2888: would like to see it last for as long as i need
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Hmm, the Ryzen is nice...but it would take you at least 2 months to save up.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: What games do you play?
SandNailFish#2888: i... havent got to that part
SandNailFish#2888: would like to explore after i get something running
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Can you sell one of the 775 boards?
SandNailFish#2888: they're barely worth anything not in a build here |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Oh and with the 2600 you have to account for the DDR4 RAM as well, so at least another $20-30 for an 8GB stick.
SandNailFish#2888: ah yes
SandNailFish#2888: darn
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I think, personally you shouldn't buy the E5450. Save the cash for your 2600.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Q6600 + some OCing should do well.
SandNailFish#2888: buying the psu is the right choice though?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: 35*5= $180.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Yeah.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Get a good one as well for the later build.
SandNailFish#2888: right
SandNailFish#2888: gotta work hard for it
SandNailFish#2888: thanks
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I mean, who could work during this pandemic?
SandNailFish#2888: teachers, apparently..
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Oh god don't tell me it's the online classes. |
SandNailFish#2888: its the actual classes in school
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: wot
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Your school hasn't closed yet?
SandNailFish#2888: yep
SandNailFish#2888: my country hasnt hit the exponential curve
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: *oof*
kite#6868: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/694598629666848850/mcdonalds.jpg
TheFifthAce#4128: ryzen 4000 just wipes intel across the floor, I love it
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Oh I saw that, seems awesome
CheetahPixie#4257: @SandNailFish see if either board runs coreboot
SandNailFish#2888: how do i do that
CheetahPixie#4257: which boards are they?
CheetahPixie#4257: got actual models?
SandNailFish#2888: g31m-es2l rev 2.3 and rev 2.4
SandNailFish#2888: I have a third asrock one that refuses to go into bios it just skips to windows recovery and keyboard doesnt work |
SandNailFish#2888: or i should say the usb port doesnt work
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: There's only 1 USB port for the entire board?
SandNailFish#2888: 4
SandNailFish#2888: going to try all of them the next time
SandNailFish#2888: but unlikely just one of them dont work
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Hmm...
CheetahPixie#4257: @SandNailFish why not
CheetahPixie#4257: oh, idk
CheetahPixie#4257: try ps2?
SandNailFish#2888: dont have a ps2 keyboard
Lady Mipha#0611: @SandNailFish in the older boards sometimes the USB keyboard is usually started up after the bios
CheetahPixie#4257: yeah
CheetahPixie#4257: also coreboot support is usually googled around for
CheetahPixie#4257: 31 series has none
SandNailFish#2888: anything else might help performance |
CheetahPixie#4257: linux
SandNailFish#2888: craap have to learn
CheetahPixie#4257: ehhhh
CheetahPixie#4257: what even are your specs
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: OCing? @SandNailFish
Jam#0384: I have a board with 1 USB
Jam#0384: and boards with 0 USB
Jam#0384: gamer moment
Jam#0384: I also have one with 10 which is like a sin
SandNailFish#2888: @Charlie Foxtrot on an intel stock cooler
SandNailFish#2888: can try
Xbox 360 1953#2640: ebig fan curve tim https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/694716645473517608/unknown.png
ShidoPixel#4650: Sup
ShidoPixel#4650: This is budget builds official so keep your tin hats in your heads
ShidoPixel#4650: Or the visitors will make you think this is Vauxhall official |
JustinXenyx#8854: @Deleted User here is tech help n stuffs
Deleted User#0000: I've been getting ads about these guys https://lytetechnology.com/shop/
JustinXenyx#8854: oh damn
JustinXenyx#8854: what a rip off
Deleted User#0000: which one is the biggest rip off
JustinXenyx#8854: all of them are rather equal rip offs
Deleted User#0000: https://youtu.be/XlCt3X_yNYU
Deleted User#0000: this is funny
Little Billy#3065: what should i get to replace my hp probook g1 650
TheGeekster#8508: really depends what you want to do on it, and what your budget is @Little Billy
Little Billy#3065: basically everything imaginable
Little Billy#3065: Im thinking about getting a zbook but those laptops are expensive
Little Billy#3065: my current probook only has a 128gb ssd and i store my files on a server
Razorsz#5056: depends on what you wanna do with it, if your current one still does stuff fine then eh, but if u need to game or do other stuff then the ryzen apu laptops are a good range to look at
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: If you want something cheap then 3200U laptops aren't bad. |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Just keep in mind to look for ones with dual-channel support.
Little Billy#3065: it does fine but the memory expansion would be important for me
TheGeekster#8508: what *budget* do you have? and do you want a dedicated graphics card?
Little Billy#3065: dedicated graphics and my budget is usually pretty tight because i tend to buy broken laptops and repair them for personal use
Little Billy#3065: im looking for hp zbook g3 type of machine
Little Billy#3065: i dont want "delicate" laptoo because it would break down in my use
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Older workstation laptops, like Thinkpads, Precision, Zbook/Elitebook Workstation? Anything that catch your fancy?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @Little Billy You do anything intensive? CAD, 3D modeling, music editing, video editing?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: And price range? $500-700?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: If in that range and those are what you do, its very likely your options is older workstations.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Let me tell you right off the bat: the GPUs in them are hopelessly out of date. You can upgrade them, but it's expensive, finnicky and not plug-and-play.
JustinXenyx#8854: Given he said his budget is usually pretty tight, i wouldn't say $500-700
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: $400?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Well what do we have at that price range?
Little Billy#3065: used laptops |
Little Billy#3065: lets say i have to do basically all kinds of stuff
Little Billy#3065: if i need to do 3D modeling it would need to handle it
Little Billy#3065: price range would be about 700-600
Little Billy#3065: my brother recomended me the kind of zbook he uses for programming and all kinds of other stuff
TheGeekster#8508: i'd honestly just start ebay scouting, have a look around, see what kind of HP Zbooks you can get for your budget, and what gpu they have
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Powerful-HP-ZBook-Studio-G3-15-6-i7-6820HQ-16GB-512GB-SSD-M1000-Workstation/283710926984?hash=item420e7d3088:g:2lkAAOSw~8ld9d2l
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: M100M is somewhere near GTX 950M territory. Or MX150/Vega 10.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Mobile-Workstation-Laptop/dp/B083M7QP35/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Thinkpad+P50&qid=1585745571&sr=8-1
JustinXenyx#8854: Why even a laptop? @Little Billy
JustinXenyx#8854: Because most of the stuff you say you'd do on it really sounds like stuff you would be doing at home anyway
Little Billy#3065: I need to do be able to work anywhere
Little Billy#3065: I started to see this when i got the probook
Little Billy#3065: at school at work on the train when im not at home and stuff like that
Little Billy#3065: im setting up a remote desktop when im not home at the moment but the laptop would be better
Little Billy#3065: i probably have to wait until my workplace starts giving away old laptops including zbooks |
Little Billy#3065: they would be 2years old
JustinXenyx#8854: So, you wouldn't really run on battery then? Since at school, at work, on trains you can usually plug up into outlets and so on
Little Billy#3065: yeah
Little Billy#3065: battery life is not that important for me
Little Billy#3065: 2hours while doing some work is more than enough
Sentient Potato#6003: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/694909520647815258/JPEG_20200401_100218.jpg
Sentient Potato#6003: Any idea what this is
tdp2612#3835: its a centrino
Sentient Potato#6003: Like is it powerful?
tdp2612#3835: no
tdp2612#3835: nononononononono
tdp2612#3835: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrino
Sentient Potato#6003: Paperweight?
tdp2612#3835: lightweight, low power usage laptop stuff basically
Sentient Potato#6003: Any idea how to bypass the admin password? |
tdp2612#3835: no idea
tdp2612#3835: google the board i guess
tdp2612#3835: or take it to a shop and ask if they know
Sentient Potato#6003: Computer places are "non essential"
tdp2612#3835: oh yeah
JustinXenyx#8854: Centrino has no indication of its performance really @Sentient Potato
Sentient Potato#6003: So then. Free doorstopper?
JustinXenyx#8854: Unless you knew the release date of the laptop you could check on wikipedia what the centrino branding refers too
JustinXenyx#8854: oh @tdp2612 posted that already
BigPierogi#3368: arent those like
BigPierogi#3368: c2ds
BigPierogi#3368: kinda
BigPierogi#3368: except mobile
JustinXenyx#8854: no, the centrino branding itself has pretty much no meaning @BigPierogi
Sentient Potato#6003: Its a dell latitude |
Sentient Potato#6003: Can't get past the administrator bios screen so past that i dont know
JustinXenyx#8854: any model number on the laptop itself?
Sentient Potato#6003: Where would that be
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: On the bottom.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: There should be the Service Tag.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Go to Dell Support page and type that in.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @JustinXenyx Removing the CMOS battery would do the trick, yes?
JustinXenyx#8854: For removing a BIOS password? Not always @Charlie Foxtrot
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It's a Latitude E6400.
JustinXenyx#8854: hmmm, so probably not a lot of computing horse power
JustinXenyx#8854: For free with 4GB of RAM it could make for a nice linux machine
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: OK so the password is stored in the EEPROM.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: So no luck then.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: You have to call Dell and prove your ownership.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://bios-pw.org/ |
Sentient Potato#6003: Shit. I was trying to sort this for my aunt
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: What's your serial number?
Deleted User#0000: what's going on
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/694915785944072283/index.png
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: See that? It should display it when you go to the part to type in the password.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Type that into the website above.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It should give you a general password.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: And delete that Service Tag please.
CheetahPixie#4257: @Sentient Potato
CheetahPixie#4257: look up
Sentient Potato#6003: 👀
Sentient Potato#6003: She's dead jim
CheetahPixie#4257: nah
CheetahPixie#4257: you need that site
CheetahPixie#4257: nothin else |
CheetahPixie#4257: @Sentient Potato very fixable
Sentient Potato#6003: Ive been DMing foxtrot back and forth
Sentient Potato#6003: She dead
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @CheetahPixie Yeah it just went kamikaze on reboot.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: After Ira runs Windows Startup Repair.
CheetahPixie#4257: kamikaze how
CheetahPixie#4257: @Sentient Potato @Charlie Foxtrot
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Like black screen, no lights.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Can Computrace do this shit?
CheetahPixie#4257: wtf even is computrace
CheetahPixie#4257: and thah's fixable too
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: LoJack? Sounds familiar? It's an anti-theft software.
CheetahPixie#4257: nope, can't do this
CheetahPixie#4257: would be useless too
xmassguy#1303: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/694925764654661652/20200401_110625.jpg |
CheetahPixie#4257: want to get your hands dirty?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: ?
xmassguy#1303: Does anyone know what card that is it is a gigabyte windforce 7 or 9 series card
CheetahPixie#4257: well, the other guy @Sentient Potato
CheetahPixie#4257: @xmassguy literally can't tell
xmassguy#1303: Just have to put it in a system to see
CheetahPixie#4257: or get us more pics
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Particularly the sticker on the left.
xmassguy#1303: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/694926910395908117/20200401_111110.jpg
xmassguy#1303: That one
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It's most likely a HD 7770.
Sentient Potato#6003: Its a graphics card
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: OK scratch that I have no idea. @xmassguy
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Plug it in the PC.
MR_FIAT#1299: If its a HD7770 then its one hell of a HD7770 |
tdp2612#3835: its a 760
tdp2612#3835: i mean wouldve been much easier to just turn it over
tdp2612#3835: and the other sticker with the barcode for part number is much more useful
tdp2612#3835: https://www.upcitemdb.com/upc/4719331323264
tdp2612#3835: huge cooler considering the card though https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/694930757449285682/gigabyte-nvidia-geforce-gtx-760-windforce-3x-450w-gaming-4gb-gddr5-graphics-card-graphics-cards-3_18.png
tdp2612#3835: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/694930779788279851/gigabyte-nvidia-geforce-gtx-760-windforce-3x-450w-gaming-4gb-gddr5-graphics-card-graphics-cards-2_18.png
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: LOL I searched those digits and no results :<
CheetahPixie#4257: @xmassguy maybe turn your card over? 🤔
CheetahPixie#4257: cause i know i had a windforce fermi card
Sentient Potato#6003: Looks Kepler like
tdp2612#3835: i already said 760 :Frobot:
JustinXenyx#8854: @Charlie Foxtrot if you searched the barcode you would have found it instantly
JustinXenyx#8854: "4719331323264" that barcode
xmassguy#1303: ok thank you all
CheetahPixie#4257: oh that's the box code |
Little Billy#3065: Do the windows 7 drivers for Dell Latitude e4310 work in windows 10?
Racey#8574: they should
Deleted User#0000: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-Gaming-PC-i5-6500-3-2Ghz-16GB-DDR3-128GB-SSD-1TB-HDD-GeForce-GT640-Roblox/274317743198?hash=item3fde9c945e%3Ag%3AkuIAAOSw35Zee4AP&LH_BIN=1
Deleted User#0000: the fact that this PC is advertising ROBLOX
Deleted User#0000: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gaming-PC-Computer-Bundle-Intel-Quad-Core-i5-8GB-1TB-Win-10-2GB-GT710-SUPER-FAST/202731788934?hash=item2f33c19a86%3Ag%3A6QwAAOSwfUZdA6IS&LH_BIN=1 even better(not at all)
MR_FIAT#1299: woaw
MR_FIAT#1299: "SUPER FAST"
MR_FIAT#1299: must be good then
MR_FIAT#1299: you know what my favourite computer ads are
MR_FIAT#1299: when they just put "good and working computer" in the description and just "computer" in the title
MR_FIAT#1299: and its just one blurry picture
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/689595200800161796/694428032529727488/20200331_020852.jpg
MR_FIAT#1299: holy shit
MR_FIAT#1299: ima steal that one
doritofan80#3583: And I thought my old computer was dirty inside |
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/689595200800161796/694428745980837968/20200331_021140.jpg
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/689595200800161796/694427569638080562/20200331_015818.jpg
mi3night#2562: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/359023590630359051/694998295725998191/unknown.png?width=1671&height=911
mi3night#2562: fix this someone
Techo#7399: @mi3night ?
mi3night#2562: like the psu, gpu, mobo, and case
Jam#0384: the case and gpu are stinky
mi3night#2562: i know
mi3night#2562: so help
Jam#0384: is it your list?
Techo#7399: like what do you want us to do
Techo#7399: make a list or etc
mi3night#2562: it's my friend's list
mi3night#2562: yeah make a list
mi3night#2562: of a new pc |
Techo#7399: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/695011614792876132/unknown.png
Techo#7399: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/695011665619714119/unknown.png
Techo#7399: ``` https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07STGGQ18/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 CPU
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D5T4SC1/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 CASE
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078HJ2RCW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 PSU
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZPK6YRS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&psc=1 GPU
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07L9XBRXM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&psc=1 RAM
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FWVJSHC/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?smid=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&psc=1 MOBO```
Techo#7399: @mi3night
Techo#7399: does that work?
mi3night#2562: thanks but the gpu it seems like it's still $229 in the US
Techo#7399: @mi3night amazon warehouse
Techo#7399: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/695012587057709129/unknown.png
Techo#7399: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/695012638698242218/unknown.png
mi3night#2562: oh ok |
Techo#7399: GPU AND RAM AND MOBO
Techo#7399: are all amazon warehouse
Techo#7399: so you'll need to tell your friend to click that
Techo#7399: to save the money
mi3night#2562: Oh ok I will tell him that thanks
Techo#7399: glad to hear it
Techo#7399: is that a good list for your friend?
mi3night#2562: He hasn’t responded yet
mi3night#2562: I hope soon
mi3night#2562: @Techo also whats the difference between one fan and 2 fans?
Techo#7399: smaller and nothing really
Techo#7399: unless you want to oc it
mi3night#2562: @Techo he wants ram for $60
mi3night#2562: no more than that
mi3night#2562: lmao |
Techo#7399: but
Techo#7399: its under his budget @mi3night
Techo#7399: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/695019715420094574/unknown.png
Techo#7399: vs mine
Techo#7399: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/695019777764360263/unknown.png
mi3night#2562: https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0134EW7G8/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=ddr4+ram&qid=1585775573&s=electronics&sr=1-2
mi3night#2562: hows this
mi3night#2562: @Techo
Techo#7399: @mi3night does your friend care how they look
Techo#7399: or no
Techo#7399: if so
Techo#7399: just get this
Techo#7399: https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B07GNFHWGC/ref=sr_1_19?condition=used&s=warehouse-deals&keywords=8gb+ddr4+ram&qid=1585776688&sr=1-19&m=A2L77EE7U53NWQ
Techo#7399: and this
Techo#7399: https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B07X941LMF/ref=sr_1_16?condition=used&s=warehouse-deals&keywords=8gb+ddr4+ram&qid=1585776688&sr=1-16&m=A2L77EE7U53NWQ |
Exomilav#5434: Is there a website where you can find schematics for motherboards and such
Exomilav#5434: To tell what capacitors to put onto a pad or smthn
CheetahPixie#4257: uhhhhhhhhhhhh
CheetahPixie#4257: there probably is
CheetahPixie#4257: but idfk which one
tdp2612#3835: Just google the individual board
CheetahPixie#4257: usually less helpful
tdp2612#3835: How though
tdp2612#3835: I mean if schematics exist, they will certainly be on google
tdp2612#3835: But if you go on one website, they might not be there
tdp2612#3835: Thats like the whole point of google :frobotmoment:
Exomilav#5434: the lettering next to an SMD capacitor should help with identifying what capacitor it is right?
CheetahPixie#4257: as in, motherboards usually are a whole group
CheetahPixie#4257: asrock's g41* are all incredibly similar, if not sometimes identical bar, say, a gigabit vs non gigabit lan chip
CheetahPixie#4257: @Exomilav silkscreen lettering merely identifies the capacitor with its own unique tag |
CheetahPixie#4257: say
Lady Mipha#0611: ^^
CheetahPixie#4257: c41 is capacitor 41, and is there on the board
CheetahPixie#4257: and if you get a schematic or some other document with info about the board, you can then look up c41 there to see what it connects to
CheetahPixie#4257: and out of that derive perhaps why it's there
CheetahPixie#4257: and if you're lucky, you get the microfarads and voltage in a more detailed document
CheetahPixie#4257: and in that case, you get what c41 does in the circuit, and its specs
CheetahPixie#4257: so, let's say you accidentally knock that cap off
CheetahPixie#4257: or, you break it cause you did something stupid
CheetahPixie#4257: you can then buy a replacement that fits the specs *exactly*
CheetahPixie#4257: and not ballpark, eyeball or whatever else
Xbox 360 1953#2640: thoughts on evga bq?
CheetahPixie#4257: yeet to trash/10
Clode#2428: Is it a bad idea to put a netbook motherboard on a laptop shell/screen?
JustinXenyx#8854: wym |
Clode#2428: Like transfeer a motherboard from a laptop to another
Lady Mipha#0611: Depends on if the motherboard from the netbook fits
Clode#2428: Ok
Clode#2428: I was more worried about like temperature
Lady Mipha#0611: Because laptop motherboards are usually different in design due to space limitations
Clode#2428: Humm
Clode#2428: Thx
boog#9487: my pc volume sometimes gets weirdly louder by itself while staying on the same volume number the only temporary fix i have found is to move the volume slider a notch. example: volume slider is at 12, i notice it is quite loud i put it down to 11 it gets quiet i put it to 12 and its not as loud as it was at 12 before.
Muse#0557: So I can't actually fit ram into one of the slots on this board
Muse#0557: Because its one of those wierd skinny micro atx boards
Muse#0557: So the cooler clip is over the ram slot and way too low down
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/695154669940375562/IMG_20200402_071408.jpg
Muse#0557: What do i do?
Muse#0557: Nvm I got it
CheetahPixie#4257: install ram first of course |
Galilool#3398: Just ran Prime95 on my Ryzen 7 3700X a few times. Allcore at 4,2 Ghz, power consumption about 87 watts with PBO. For comparison: An i9 9900k without power limiter uses around 220 watts.
SuSSudio#2688: :OmegaxD:
Lady Mipha#0611: :OmegaxD:
tdp2612#3835: :OmegaxD:
CheetahPixie#4257: fucken lmao
CheetahPixie#4257: nice
SuSSudio#2688: Efficiency went over the roof with neck2neck perf
FreeFull#0716: AMD really ate Intel's lunch
SuSSudio#2688: Intel's got to retire 14nm... but they still got 2 launches left, ending with rocketlake
FreeFull#0716: If you read up about how modern chip fabs work
FreeFull#0716: It's insane
SuSSudio#2688: Good news about the rocketlake is, they're axing skylake+++++ arch, replacing it with Willow cove arch
FreeFull#0716: It's deep dark magic
SuSSudio#2688: Indeed, it's really complex
FreeFull#0716: Really reaching the limit of what you can do with silicon |
Galilool#3398: Gone are the days where AMD was the hot option
Galilool#3398: My 3700X is being watercooled by a SilentiumPC Navis 280 but I majorly fucked up the thermal paste application (Yes, I will fix it eventually) but it still does not reach 70°C
Galilool#3398: The 9900k would probably throttle with that cooling
Galilool#3398: In testing with some fucking massive air cooler it went over 100°C
Galilool#3398: There's like literally no reason to choose a 9900k over a 3700x except when you've got a really massive PSU, don't pay for electricity yoirself and play on 720p low settings
FreeFull#0716: My dad's CPU fan for some reason didn't work, so he put another fan on top of it, and that cools the Ryzen more than enough
FreeFull#0716: They really don't run hot
FreeFull#0716: Specifically he has a Ryzen 9 3900X
Galilool#3398: wow
FreeFull#0716: Yeah. Gone are the days where you need watercooling for your PC
CheetahPixie#4257: they never existed in the first place though
CheetahPixie#4257: never watercooled, almost definitely never will
FreeFull#0716: I mean, now you don't need watercooling unless you are really going for the super ultra highest performance and are overclocking
CheetahPixie#4257: you never really did tho?
FreeFull#0716: I mean, if your CPU runs at 100°C while fans are at full speed |
FreeFull#0716: You probably want watercooling?
FreeFull#0716: Or at least a much bigger heatsink
Galilool#3398: I went down the watercooling route solely for asthetic reasons
Galilool#3398: and i didn't know what else to get with my christmas money
CheetahPixie#4257: that's not a "cpu need watercooling" problem
CheetahPixie#4257: that's an intel problem
MythologicalZ#3752: :Mainman:
MythologicalZ#3752: Chip run hot on air
MythologicalZ#3752: Chip cool on water
MythologicalZ#3752: Can be said for both Intel and AMD
CheetahPixie#4257: except watercooling on intel made zero diff
CheetahPixie#4257: and if you're thinking about it, why not noctua
CheetahPixie#4257: same dam perf
FreeFull#0716: Except that nowadays it seems to be "Chip cool on air"
CheetahPixie#4257: chip always cool on air |
CheetahPixie#4257: is just intel that made blast furnaces
CheetahPixie#4257: (and still does)
Lady Mipha#0611: Yes
MythologicalZ#3752: You tried running tr on air?
CheetahPixie#4257: tr works just fine or air last i checked
Lady Mipha#0611: They restarted the blast furnace factory :OmegaxD: @CheetahPixie
MythologicalZ#3752: Except when you need to push clocks on a 16c+
MythologicalZ#3752: Upto a 12 core you're fine
CheetahPixie#4257: >need
MythologicalZ#3752: :Mainman:
MythologicalZ#3752: There is always need for more performance
CheetahPixie#4257: no
CheetahPixie#4257: not really
CheetahPixie#4257: i never overclock, see literally no need to
CheetahPixie#4257: did once |
CheetahPixie#4257: made zero diff to me
MythologicalZ#3752: So then why are you complaining about a 9900K then
CheetahPixie#4257: cause even on stock it gets far too hot
MythologicalZ#3752: Because if you have a d15 or similar and you leave it stock it'll be fine
CheetahPixie#4257: nevermind the auto oc cheat shit
MythologicalZ#3752: It's a 14nm 8c, what do you expect
MythologicalZ#3752: Like deadass
MythologicalZ#3752: Explain what you want from it
DarknessFalls229#2286: cool beans
CheetahPixie#4257: i expect it to not fucking fry itself
CheetahPixie#4257: like, look
CheetahPixie#4257: zen is a 14nm 8 core and does fine
CheetahPixie#4257: *and it doesn't do underhanded auto oc shit courtesy of fanboy shrout*
MythologicalZ#3752: You mean the avx shit?
MythologicalZ#3752: And anyway |
MythologicalZ#3752: You can trace all this back to 4770Ks already have thermal issues
MythologicalZ#3752: Then to Skylake with the 6700K
MythologicalZ#3752: And now with the i9
MythologicalZ#3752: Been a running meme for 5+ years, dunno what you honestly expect
DarknessFalls229#2286: what proces is the new 10 core?
DarknessFalls229#2286: is it 14nm too?
MythologicalZ#3752: Yee
DarknessFalls229#2286: oh boy
DarknessFalls229#2286: things are heating up in the intel fanservice
MythologicalZ#3752: There's one solution
MythologicalZ#3752: Z490 UD 😎
DarknessFalls229#2286: meanwhile 3950X is cooled by LP air coolers
MythologicalZ#3752: Again wish there was tr variant for the 3950x
CheetahPixie#4257: @MythologicalZ no, not the avx
CheetahPixie#4257: intel strongarmed automatic overclocking code into bios vendors' codebases in order to come out higher on benchmarks |
MythologicalZ#3752: The mce thing?
CheetahPixie#4257: which does generate extra heat
CheetahPixie#4257: idk what htye called it
CheetahPixie#4257: but is still some shit
CheetahPixie#4257: and i'm thoroughly not interested
MythologicalZ#3752: Very cool
MythologicalZ#3752: The only thing I can think of was Asus
MythologicalZ#3752: Who had mce on for the launch of the 8700K
MythologicalZ#3752: So scores would be higher
MythologicalZ#3752: Otherwise, I've not heard anything about Intel directly being involved
CheetahPixie#4257: intel is why that shit happened, so
MythologicalZ#3752: What
TheFifthAce#4128: @DarknessFalls229 10 core 14nm with 5.3ghz boost
TheFifthAce#4128: :flushhhed:
DarknessFalls229#2286: intel just wants to watch the world burn |
TheFifthAce#4128: literally going to be impossible to cool
DarknessFalls229#2286: but in their own way
DarknessFalls229#2286: remember the 28 core chiller?
DarknessFalls229#2286: perhaps that
JustinXenyx#8854: Honestly, if Intel was to pull a FX9590 they'd just include a massive AIO as their stock cooler
JustinXenyx#8854: atleast the 9590 was coolable though by "normal" means
DarknessFalls229#2286: now you need a 480mm rad for the 10 core?
TheFifthAce#4128: 9900KS requires a 360 aio for stock
TheFifthAce#4128: and thats only 5ghz 8 cores
DarknessFalls229#2286: doesnt that thing boost up to like 185 watt?
TheFifthAce#4128: there is zero realistic chance of keeping the 10 core cooled
TheFifthAce#4128: its going to throttle
JustinXenyx#8854: how do they fare with undervolts? like can you undervolt them decently enough to cool properly?
TheFifthAce#4128: maybe the thermosiphon might work
TheFifthAce#4128: that looked promising |
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx 9900KS is just binned to hell so maybe
TheFifthAce#4128: its "new silicon" but its still just a binned pre overclocked 9900k
DarknessFalls229#2286: the 9990xe was rated for 400 watt right?
TheFifthAce#4128: fuck if I know
TheFifthAce#4128: those had bigger dies and bigger ihs
TheFifthAce#4128: easier to fool
TheFifthAce#4128: cool
TheFifthAce#4128: 10 core is going to be socket 1200
DarknessFalls229#2286: and also probably for LN2
TheFifthAce#4128: so not much bigger than 1151
DarknessFalls229#2286: the 14 core
MythologicalZ#3752: iirc they're retaining 115x cooler compatibility
MythologicalZ#3752: So the socket is probably gonna be the same size then
Jam#0384: thats cromge
MythologicalZ#3752: https://twitter.com/9550pro/status/1245698596088905728 |
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