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the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: just cause normal is kinda of a mess
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: should i get a 650w fsp psu its 80 plus
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: for a 2080 super
navibu#7218: anyone having trouble with zoom on amd hardware?
navibu#7218: my pc often freeze/bsod while using zoom
navibu#7218: i reinstalled windows but it still the same
TheFifthAce#4128: amd hardware is vague and useless information
TheFifthAce#4128: do you mean like terascale era GPUs? ryzen CPUs? FX CPUs? navi GPUs? like h
navibu#7218: oh im using R5 1400 + RX570
navibu#7218: before that everything is working fine
Galilool#3398: My GPU while F@H is running. Thanks for nothing ATI https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/697717144237899836/IMG_20200409_095822_924.jpg
Galilool#3398: And yes, is says it's utilizing the GPU
TheGeekster#8508: change the graph to compute
Galilool#3398: Huh? When I do "standard" rendering and compute it's shown in the 3D graph
Galilool#3398: Thanks though, I'll try later |
Budget#8265: @Galilool Fella ya do know OpenCL is not 3D Rendering or ENcoding
Galilool#3398: Well now I do
Galilool#3398: No need to be passive-aggressive
TheGeekster#8508: He wasn't being passive aggressive, don't worry, he's just posh
Muse#0557: Who here knows how to mod a wii
Muse#0557: I think jam does
Muse#0557: @Jam
Muse#0557: Help holy one
tdp2612#3835: i can explain getting homebrew channel on
tdp2612#3835: i did the letterbomb thing a few months ago
Muse#0557: With letterbomb can you load isos off an SD card
Muse#0557: Or only usb
Miki2305#5707: I have a question
Miki2305#5707: My friend bought a Thermaltake v250 case and he doesent know where to plug in the power connector to it
tdp2612#3835: plug a power connector? |
Miki2305#5707: Its a weird port
tdp2612#3835: it doesnt look to have any lights, only in the fans
Miki2305#5707: Yep only the fans
tdp2612#3835: does it have a power supply in it, thats usually where you plug a pc in
tdp2612#3835: are the fans molex or something daft
Miki2305#5707: Something other
tdp2612#3835: is it the fans he is trying to plug in
Miki2305#5707: No
Miki2305#5707: the hub
tdp2612#3835: as in the front panel?
Miki2305#5707: Yep
tdp2612#3835: does he have the motherboard installed
Miki2305#5707: Yep
tdp2612#3835: what motherboard is it
tdp2612#3835: and each of the wires should be labeled |
Miki2305#5707: Asrock z170 gaming
Miki2305#5707: fatality
tdp2612#3835: theres nothing weird about this case
Miki2305#5707: No
tdp2612#3835: its like any other front panel connector where they arent stuck together
tdp2612#3835: in fact these arent too bad, theyre semi together (not individual + and -)
tdp2612#3835: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/697785004805193758/unknown.png
tdp2612#3835: do they look like this, and has he ever built a computer before into a new case
Miki2305#5707: The power cable for the hub looks like a reverse sata cable
Miki2305#5707: litrally
tdp2612#3835: send a picture
Miki2305#5707: Wait
tdp2612#3835: because according to the thing im lookig at, its completely normal
Miki2305#5707: its a sata power cable
tdp2612#3835: there is no sata power cable going to the front panel |
tdp2612#3835: unless thats for the fan controller
Miki2305#5707: From the hub
Miki2305#5707: not the front panel
tdp2612#3835: so its not the front panel
Miki2305#5707: No
Miki2305#5707: He has a special hub
tdp2612#3835: the fan controller
Miki2305#5707: Yes
Miki2305#5707: It needs sata power
tdp2612#3835: then plug a sata power connector into it
Miki2305#5707: Firstly he was confused but when he sent me the picture
Miki2305#5707: Ye thats what I told him
Miki2305#5707: Well this sucks
Miki2305#5707: The guy who built the pc took out the remaining sata cable from the psu
tdp2612#3835: modular? |
Miki2305#5707: semi
Miki2305#5707: i think
tdp2612#3835: just go on ebay an buy a replacement then
Miki2305#5707: He is talking with me on the phone but I asked him to send me a picture of the psu
Miki2305#5707: Yep semimodular
Miki2305#5707: First I thought it was modular
Miki2305#5707: But it should have another sata
Miki2305#5707: Thanks for the help!
xmassguy#1303: What amd card would yall recommend to go with that is comparable to a gtx 1070
tdp2612#3835: get a 5700xt
Miki2305#5707: or a 5700
xmassguy#1303: ok thank you
tdp2612#3835: may as well get the xt though, just for even more power
Miki2305#5707: Yep
tdp2612#3835: but yeah a non xt would still be way more powerful than a 1070 |
Miki2305#5707: And its a little more expensive so it is worth it
Miki2305#5707: But a 5600xt is more comparable to the gtx1070
Miki2305#5707: But with a 5600xt you should get 200fps or more on most of the games
xmassguy#1303: is that 5600 xt or the 5700 better than a gtx 1660
Miki2305#5707: A 5600xt is neck and neck to the 1660 but also to the gtx1070
Miki2305#5707: And the 5700 is a little bit more powerful than both gtx cards
xmassguy#1303: ok thank you so i gues ill just get the cheapest of those three
Miki2305#5707: If it was me buying ill get a 5600xt but I am a little bit of an AMD fanboy:)
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Eww AMD fanboy
Miki2305#5707: Lol
Miki2305#5707: I love amd because if their rendering power
xmassguy#1303: ha see im the opposite for gpus a little bit of an NVidia fanboy so that's why i don't know much of the NVidia to amd comparisons
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: AMD decodes videos better than NVIDIA, yes?
Miki2305#5707: Pretty much
Miki2305#5707: But if you are searcing for a cpu Ryzens are better bang for a buck |
xmassguy#1303: yep ryzen 1600 af or a 2600 the 2600 is about 100 usd locally
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Of course, Intel is making a joke of themselves.
xmassguy#1303: yep
Miki2305#5707: Well if you just want a gaming card get a gtx card but if you are editing and gaming(a little bit lower framerate) get an AMD card
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Why get an Intel 6c when you can get a last gen Ryzen with 8c/16t?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: AMD seems to have a reputation for spectacularly messing up the drivers for them :<
Miki2305#5707: Yup
Miki2305#5707: I had a 5570 in my pc and the drivers litrally crashed my pc
Miki2305#5707: But an old card is an old card
Miki2305#5707: Soon Ill just build a new pc
xmassguy#1303: i guess im getting a gtx 1070 8gb bc it is cheaper than a 6gb 1660 and a 6gb 5600xt
Miki2305#5707: Nice
Miki2305#5707: Wait what frequancy is your monitor working at?
Miki2305#5707: And what cpu do you have?
xmassguy#1303: now i wonder what would happen if i buy that first and stick it into my fx 8350 black system because in all my games i play as high as i can go on 4k my cpu is at like 40% usage and my gtx 1060 is maxed out |
xmassguy#1303: i dont know frequency
Miki2305#5707: You can check in nvidia control panel
Miki2305#5707: If you have like a 75hz moitor be aware of ghosting
xmassguy#1303: what is that
Miki2305#5707: Ghosting is when you see a trail behind you for exaple a window or your gun in a game
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Comet-Lake-S-may-require-hefty-CPU-coolers-Core-i9-10900F-shown-to-have-a-170-W-PL1-TDP-and-224-W-PL2-for-a-4-6-GHz-all-core-boost.460196.0.html
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: What kind of meme is this.
xmassguy#1303: oh well i cant get any nvidia app to open right now
Galilool#3398: Intel Core FX
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: ```Recently, a Weibo post has surfaced showing the Core i9-10900F in action under an AIDA64 CPU stress test. The processor seems to have hit 4.6 GHz on all cores but operates at significantly high TDP. According to the HWiNFO64 data, the maximum PL1 of the Core i9-10900F was 170 W while the PL2 was 224 W. The PL1 limit is what Intel advertises as the TDP and is calculated at base clocks. For this processor to maintain a 4.6 GHz all-core boost, it would have to ramp up the TDP to 224 W. Contrast this with the 105 W TDP rating for the AMD Ryzen 9 3900X with 12 cores that hits a peak TDP of 146 W during an all-core boost up to 4.2 GHz. ```
Miki2305#5707: @xmassguy Heres ghosting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6g85vqdK2A
Galilool#3398: 224 W
Galilool#3398: What the fuck
Miki2305#5707: What?
Galilool#3398: The 10900F's power consumption |
Miki2305#5707: Ye I know
Galilool#3398: what the fuck
xmassguy#1303: I know i still need a case but i feel like there is a bottle neck some ware in this system https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/697799796257194024/Shot_003.png
Galilool#3398: Intel Core FX
Galilool#3398: Is that the new 1600 on 12 nm?
Galilool#3398: @xmassguy
xmassguy#1303: it is the 1600 af
JustinXenyx#8854: > The 10900F's power consumption
@Galilool read what's pinned in this channel, TDP has fuck all to do with power consumption
JustinXenyx#8854: And that goes for both AMD and Intel
Galilool#3398: > Recently, a Weibo post has surfaced showing the Core i9-10900F in action under an AIDA64 CPU stress test. The processor seems to have hit 4.6 GHz on all cores but operates at significantly high TDP. According to the HWiNFO64 data, the maximum PL1 of the Core i9-10900F was 170 W while the PL2 was 224 W.
Bruh
Miki2305#5707: @xmassguy If you can squeize a little bit more for a 2600 it would be better but all in all a good build
Galilool#3398: @xmassguy Should be fine then, but maybe trade the 750W PSU for a 650/600W one and get a better Motherboard for the money, for example the B450 Tomohawk MAX
Galilool#3398: @Miki2305 The 1600af is an underclocked 2600 |
Galilool#3398: there is no 2600af
xmassguy#1303: ok thank you for the advice
Galilool#3398: the 1600af can be OC'd to 2600 levels with no problems
JustinXenyx#8854: there is a 2600 af, but that means its a normal 2600
JustinXenyx#8854: lol
Galilool#3398: @xmassguy and maybe get a different custom design for your GPU, the Zotac Mini ones run hot as fuck
Galilool#3398: @JustinXenyx did you read the article? the screenshot says 221W peak power consumption
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: ```A report by ComputerBase back during CES 2020 said that motherboard OEMs ready with Z490 models were unhappy with Intel's delay in announcing Comet Lake-S. Apparently, the flagship 10-core Comet Lake-S processors weren't ready for primetime due to thermal and power consumption issues, which could also be the reason why Comet Lake-H topped out at eight cores max. ```
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: *major oof*
xmassguy#1303: have any of yall heard of apiva or raidmax for a psu brand before
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Raidmax? Yeah, I have.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Wasn't a good PSU brand IIRC.
xmassguy#1303: ya i didnt think so
JustinXenyx#8854: i did read the article, but i still wanted to say that TDP has no relevant meaning and/or connection to power draw @Galilool
Galilool#3398: @Miki2305 The 2600 is always 12 nm, the 1600af is a 2600 with 1600 speeds |
Miki2305#5707: Ye
Miki2305#5707: Know I know
Miki2305#5707: But I meant the updated 2600
Miki2305#5707: That has the power of the 2600x I belive
xmassguy#1303: I know that name brand psu manufactures have low end garbage psus but is the coolermaster MWE 600 watt 80+ bronze a decent one
Miki2305#5707: I wouldnt cheap out on a psu especially if I am doing a all new pc with expensive af parts
xmassguy#1303: https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Bronze-Certified-Warranty/dp/B074ZR8D6P/ref=sr_1_67?crid=27INFQOA50U3Q&dchild=1&keywords=evga+650w+power+supply&qid=1586439438&sprefix=evga+650w%2Caps%2C159&sr=8-67
Galilool#3398: @Miki2305 There is no updated 2600 afaik?
Miki2305#5707: There was an updated 2600
xmassguy#1303: i belive that is better than my bottom of the line evga 600 w
Galilool#3398: @Miki2305 send link
xmassguy#1303: 4 year old too
Miki2305#5707: I think even Linus made a video on it
Galilool#3398: he made one on the 1600af
Miki2305#5707: Weird |
Miki2305#5707: I swear I saw a 2600 video
Galilool#3398: 1600af vs 2600 maybe?
Galilool#3398: There is no 2600af
Miki2305#5707: I dont even know
Galilool#3398: There are a 1600, a 1600af, a 2600 and a 2600x
Miki2305#5707: I know
xmassguy#1303: should i even consider a blower style gtx 1070
Miki2305#5707: No
Galilool#3398: they run even hotter
Miki2305#5707: A triple fan would be nice but a double is decent enough
Galilool#3398: but not a zotac dual fan, zotac duals are shit
Miki2305#5707: Imagine if someone bought a passive cooled gtx1070 if it existed
JustinXenyx#8854: Guys take one look at the 2600s model number or any second gen ryzen chip
Miki2305#5707: 2600x?
Miki2305#5707: There isnt an s model |
JustinXenyx#8854: i know, language
JustinXenyx#8854: "YD2600BBM6IAF"
JustinXenyx#8854: that is the 2600s model number
JustinXenyx#8854: notice how it says AF
xmassguy#1303: gigabyte gtx 1070 Ti 8gb for $320 or an evga gtx 1660 sc ultra 6gb for $ 229 both are dual fan
Miki2305#5707: If you can afford the 1070 get it
JustinXenyx#8854: 1070Ti is overpriced for 320 USD
JustinXenyx#8854: You can get a RTX2060 for that much money
Miki2305#5707: The 2060 OC?
xmassguy#1303: iis the 2060 that much better than a 1070 or a 1060
Miki2305#5707: From gigabyte?
Miki2305#5707: Pretty much yeah
JustinXenyx#8854: The 1070Ti is basically a slightly worse 1080
Miki2305#5707: Yup
JustinXenyx#8854: But a 2060 performs pretty much identically to a 1080 |
TheGeekster#8508: 1070ti crewwwww 😩
JustinXenyx#8854: So at that point might aswell use the same money for a 1070Ti and get a 2060 new
Miki2305#5707: Do you think $50 is too much for a used gtx650?
Galilool#3398: yes
Galilool#3398: way too much
xmassguy#1303: i could get a gtx 1660 ti oc 6gb for $252
Miki2305#5707: Then I just gonna talk the seller down
petroleum gaming 47#8843: def
TheGeekster#8508: yeahhhh that is too much, i'm looking at them buy-it-now for like $30
Miki2305#5707: So talk him down a third of the price
Miki2305#5707: In my country its a third
xmassguy#1303: ok gtx 1070 Ti 8gb for $320 or a gtx 1660 Ti oc 6gb for $252
xmassguy#1303: usd
Miki2305#5707: Ill get the 1070ti but not for that price
Miki2305#5707: Is $50 too much for a gtx650Ti? |
Miki2305#5707: sorry $40
xmassguy#1303: what boards will fit in a mid tower atx case
Miki2305#5707: Atx board will fit
Miki2305#5707: Atleast i fit my arx board in my mid tower case
Miki2305#5707: What case?
xmassguy#1303: https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Gaming-Window-Pre-Installed-Computer/dp/B01IT0TDY6/ref=sr_1_35?crid=2KAOI4HZ0X3AF&dchild=1&keywords=full+atx+case&qid=1586440872&sprefix=full+atx+%2Caps%2C164&sr=8-35
Miki2305#5707: And what mbd
xmassguy#1303: I feel pretty confident with this build https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/697809114633470009/Shot_004.png
Miki2305#5707: Yep your board should fit
BigPierogi#3368: why not the 1600af?
xmassguy#1303: it is
Miki2305#5707: It is
Miki2305#5707: But amazon doesent show it
xmassguy#1303: (YD1600BBAFBOX)
xmassguy#1303: if i put that togeather do you think i could sel the whole system for like 800 |
Miki2305#5707: https://www.njuskalo.hr/graficke-kartice/gainward-gtx-650-ti-1gb-oglas-30153945
Miki2305#5707: Too much for the gpu?
xmassguy#1303: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/189570829158769/
xmassguy#1303: do you think i should buy that sell the 580 and put a 1660 in it
Miki2305#5707: yep
Miki2305#5707: A 580 is comparable to the gtx970
xmassguy#1303: i might sell periferals and monitor as well
xmassguy#1303: if i buy it
MythologicalZ#3752: It's much faster than a 970
Miki2305#5707: 970ti sorry
Miki2305#5707: My friend has a 970ti and his friend has a rx580 and they are comparable in fps
petroleum gaming 47#8843: 980
MythologicalZ#3752: 970ti doesn't exist :epicgamer:
petroleum gaming 47#8843: 980 is what youre looking for
Miki2305#5707: How |
MythologicalZ#3752: You probably mean 980 or 980ti
petroleum gaming 47#8843: 980 is like slightly faster than a 580 iirc
petroleum gaming 47#8843: like 5% or so
Miki2305#5707: Hwo the fuck did I type 970
Miki2305#5707: Yep I meant the 980ti
MythologicalZ#3752: Depends on the vram usage in games but generally yes
petroleum gaming 47#8843: 980ti slaughters a 580 most of the time
Miki2305#5707: Lol
MythologicalZ#3752: :epicgamer:
petroleum gaming 47#8843: typo moment
MythologicalZ#3752: Wouldn't call it slaughter
MythologicalZ#3752: It is essentially a 1070 though
petroleum gaming 47#8843: its a pretty massive gap
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Need help on picking out a college laptop
xmassguy#1303: how would a system with an amd 8350 black 24 gb (16gb usable) ddr3 a gigabyte ga-78lmt-usb3 mainboard and a gtx 1660 ti oc |
petroleum gaming 47#8843: a clocked 980ti can pipe a 1080
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Dell or Thinkpad?
petroleum gaming 47#8843: 760g is an owie
MythologicalZ#3752: Dell
petroleum gaming 47#8843: lati
petroleum gaming 47#8843: thinkpad man not good
xmassguy#1303: hp stram from walmart for about $200 and put a 120 gb sd card in it to use for a mass storage divice for a collage laptop
xmassguy#1303: how would a system with an amd 8350 black 24 gb (16gb usable) ddr3 a gigabyte ga-78lmt-usb3 mainboard and a gtx 1660 ti oc
Jamie.Cullen#8363: ewww gross
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Anything hp is disgusting
MythologicalZ#3752: Move away from FX
MythologicalZ#3752: :epicgamer:
BigPierogi#3368: @xmassguy why would you buy a hp stream
BigPierogi#3368: thats a horrible idea
Jamie.Cullen#8363: exactly |
BigPierogi#3368: why not buy a refurbished latitude or thinkpad
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Bought refurbished thinkpad and it fried itself
Jamie.Cullen#8363: so not doing that again
BigPierogi#3368: i boguht a refurbished thinkpad
BigPierogi#3368: still working to this day
BigPierogi#3368: after 2 years of use
petroleum gaming 47#8843: hp laptops are a bit shit, thinkpads are a harf pass from me
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Yeah most people have had good luck with them
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Hp laptops are bottom of the barrel
Miki2305#5707: haitch pea
BigPierogi#3368: just avoid the t440
Jamie.Cullen#8363: u cant get worse
BigPierogi#3368: t440 was awful
Jamie.Cullen#8363: ohbyes my dude ahahah
Jamie.Cullen#8363: fucking shite |
xmassguy#1303: ok but if im trying to do this as cheap as possible in many games i try to play as high as i can go in 4k and mt 1060 is maxed out but my 8350 is at like 40% usage so my cpu can handle fore than my 1060
petroleum gaming 47#8843: keyboard just doesnt hit the spot, trackpads are pretty bad, finding one with a decent screen is near impossible
BigPierogi#3368: what?
Jamie.Cullen#8363: @xmassguy Go ryzen
BigPierogi#3368: nvm
petroleum gaming 47#8843: the classic keyboard is mush city, the new one is just a regular chiclet
Jamie.Cullen#8363: I didnt like the new chiclit
Miki2305#5707: is 42 us dollars too much for a used gtx650ti?
Jamie.Cullen#8363: was ok like better than a lot of other keyboards
xmassguy#1303: if my cpu isnt getting maxed and can handle more powerful cpu why should i spend 617 to get a whole new pc
petroleum gaming 47#8843: honestly its pretty mid
xmassguy#1303: for a better card
MythologicalZ#3752: Shit deal for a 650ti
Jamie.Cullen#8363: You dont need a whole new pc
petroleum gaming 47#8843: better than like hp and asus, but dell and acer are a bit better imo |
MythologicalZ#3752: Card is potato, rather look for something GCN at that price
Jamie.Cullen#8363: FX is a dead shit platform
MythologicalZ#3752: "8c" chips when OCed are fine
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Acer used to be good
petroleum gaming 47#8843: cpu usage being low doesnt mean your cpu isnt a bottleneck
MythologicalZ#3752: But I would switch platforms
petroleum gaming 47#8843: acer was good, then shit, then decent again
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Remember when an acer aspire meant fucking quality
petroleum gaming 47#8843: the swift and nitro lineups are pretty solid across the board, and their business machines are some of the nicer ones ive worked with
xmassguy#1303: so what your saying is if i go ryzen and put my 1060 in it i could get better 4k fps
Jamie.Cullen#8363: like my dad bought an acer aspire in 2008 with windows Vista
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Blu ray drive
petroleum gaming 47#8843: id take a travelmate over a thinkpad honestly
Jamie.Cullen#8363: 15.6' screen
MythologicalZ#3752: 1060 isn't a 4K card |
Jamie.Cullen#8363: nice keyboard
MythologicalZ#3752: Neither is a 1660ti
Jamie.Cullen#8363: good battery
MythologicalZ#3752: If we're talking modern AAA
petroleum gaming 47#8843: this
Jamie.Cullen#8363: miss that pc
petroleum gaming 47#8843: 4k is 5700xt/2070s and higher territory
Jamie.Cullen#8363: it ran windows 7 so well on a WD Blue drive
xmassguy#1303: farming simulator and american truck simulator and cross out are the main games i play
petroleum gaming 47#8843: and if you pair those with an fx then fucking lol
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Then u dont need a real high end pc lol
petroleum gaming 47#8843: like id probably upgrade to a 580, maybe a 1070 if it was stupid cheap
petroleum gaming 47#8843: im running a 4.7 oc though
Jamie.Cullen#8363: I'd prefer to go radeon
Jamie.Cullen#8363: If i was in his shoes |
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Get off FX and sell the motherboard and CPU
xmassguy#1303: 4k on ultra settings in farm sim gets me 25 to 45 fps in farm sim and 50 plus in amarican truck sim
petroleum gaming 47#8843: rx470s are like 60 usd
petroleum gaming 47#8843: no point going 650ti
Sentient Potato#6003: I mean 1070s go for about 200 usd
petroleum gaming 47#8843: i had one lined up for 200 aud but my mouse broke so had to flake
BigPierogi#3368: @petroleum gaming 47 what laptop we talking about
petroleum gaming 47#8843: honestly ive lost track of this chat what msg are you referring to
BigPierogi#3368: you were talking somehting about a travelmate
petroleum gaming 47#8843: acers business line
Miki2305#5707: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/697825036177899550/received_254398359023786.jpeg
Miki2305#5707: What are theese connectors?
Miki2305#5707: They are of a thermaltake fan hub
TheGeekster#8508: looks like a USB header > fan hub
TheGeekster#8508: for control most likely |
TheGeekster#8508: @Miki2305
Alcyone#2233: that isnt enough pins to be usb
tdp2612#3835: frick theyre a thing and i cant remember
TheGeekster#8508: oh shit 🤔 yeah true it's blocked off, didn't realise
tdp2612#3835: speaker
TheGeekster#8508: add to the list of propriety cables time 😩
tdp2612#3835: its a little pc speaker i think
Alcyone#2233: is that both ends of the same cable? could just be proprietary connections to the hub if its not
Miki2305#5707: ok
tdp2612#3835: just try plug them in anywhere they might fit
Alcyone#2233: that didnt answer my question
is it both ends of the same cable or not?
Alcyone#2233: I would just dl the instructions for the fan hub/ rgb controller whatever it is and see what its supposed to do. or at least look at the input on the hub and see if there is a marking for what it is
Alcyone#2233: the 4-1 pin could be 5v rgb and the other side to the controller for all I know |
tdp2612#3835: i think this might be more to do with controlling the rgb or something
Alcyone#2233: thats the only 4-1 that I know of on a motherboard https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/697829467518927434/rgb-headers-motherboard.png
tdp2612#3835: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/697829579519426620/unknown.png
tdp2612#3835: looks like sperate cables then
tdp2612#3835: ones for most boards, and the other one ois for gigabutt
Alcyone#2233: could be, the manual will say
tdp2612#3835: this is the manual
tdp2612#3835: https://file.thermaltake.com/file/qig/CA-1Q5-00M1WN-00_V250TGARGB_Manual.pdf
tdp2612#3835: its not great though, its very short phrases in a million languages rather than in depth for at least 1
Alcyone#2233: oh its a case
tdp2612#3835: yeah it comes with the fans
Alcyone#2233: well problem solved
Alcyone#2233: ehy you gotta be special with your header gigabutt
Abe.#3344: Does anyone know a good place to buy windows 10 from?
tdp2612#3835: ebay or similar |
tdp2612#3835: dont bother with g2a and other specificly key reselling sites, theyll rip you off
Abe.#3344: Do you have any sellers you use normally?
tdp2612#3835: nah, just go with a cheap one
Abe.#3344: Have an issue with RGB fans
Abe.#3344: I'm guiding a friend through a video call and it won't fit into any of the headers
Abe.#3344: Because there's a black bar blocking it
Abe.#3344: On an Asrock B450m Pro 4
Weeb#8737: are they 3 pin or 4 pin when it comes to the rgb cables
Abe.#3344: 4 pin
Abe.#3344: It's getting blocked by a piece of plastic
Abe.#3344: On the pins
Weeb#8737: weird i never ran into that issue with my asrock b450 k4
Abe.#3344: I have no idea how to fix this lol
Weeb#8737: are you plugging it into the gray header at the bottom left of the board?
Weeb#8737: or the white header? |
tdp2612#3835: if its being plugged into a socket right, itll work
Weeb#8737: yeah
tdp2612#3835: the bit on the cable where one of the holes is blocked is there for a reason
tdp2612#3835: so youre plugging it into the wrong header
tdp2612#3835: has he looked at the manual
Abe.#3344: Yea
tdp2612#3835: or if you mean its a 4 pin plug youre putting on a 3 pin header, youre doing it wrong
Abe.#3344: It's a 4 pin into a 4pin
tdp2612#3835: turn it upside down?
Abe.#3344: Yup
tdp2612#3835: send a picture then
Abe.#3344: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/697852666168082523/Screenshot_2020-04-09-17-57-11-788_com.whatsapp.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/697852666717667389/Screenshot_2020-04-09-17-56-56-563_com.whatsapp.jpg
Weeb#8737: you plugged it into a fan header not an rgb header there should be a white header with 4pins by those fan headers
Weeb#8737: it should be on the top right of the board
Abe.#3344: Oh shoot |
tdp2612#3835: yeah thats clealy not designed to go there
Abe.#3344: So is it just RGB, not the fan header?
Weeb#8737: yeah
Abe.#3344: Ah
Abe.#3344: Makes sense
RiIey#0001: how do i get chrome to download to my other empty drive https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/697994124229476371/Capture.PNG
Xbox 360 1953#2640: settings > advanced > downloads > change
Lady Mipha#0611: ^^^
RiIey#0001: ty
wiryfuture🦀#1706: hey guys, which way of running docker apps is better:
running ubuntu and then install packages (eg, FROM ubuntu:18.04 and then RUN apt-get install -y apache2)
or
running packages directly through docker (eg, FROM httpd)
Jamie.Cullen#8363: I'd say try the first option
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Also Can anyone here tell me if this laptop would be ok? |
Jamie.Cullen#8363: https://www.huntoffice.ie/asus-vivobook-laptop-display-141-inch-cpu-intel-core-i5-8265-8gb-ram-memory-256-ssd-storage-windows-10-s430fa-eb008t.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwssD0BRBIEiwA-JP5rANAG_Xf65ILgVkzK9CWDUZl-hR4c5VolCayvpjbQYdY7KVKkzyT9hoCo80QAvD_BwE
Deleted User#0000: Ewww iGPU
Deleted User#0000: Except for that, it's good.
Jamie.Cullen#8363: https://www.dell.com/en-ie/shop/laptops/new-inspiron-14-5000/spd/inspiron-14-5490-laptop/cn54902#features_section
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Well I'm not gaming on it lol
Jamie.Cullen#8363: This one is actually better than the one i was looking at yesterday
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Has Dual channel memory
Deleted User#0000: Dell's laptops are overpriced, but good
Deleted User#0000: You should still buy the Asus VivoBook
JustinXenyx#8854: I told him to specifically buy a more work-oriented laptop, because at first his plan was to just buy a gaming laptop
JustinXenyx#8854: and let's be real here, a seperate work/school laptop and seperate gaming pc are not only going to be cheaper, but it's going to be a better experience
BigPierogi#3368: @Jamie.Cullen is this still about buying the pc for your parents or something?
JustinXenyx#8854: The Vivobook looks like it makes a decent bit more sense, the dell is just pricy without any proper advantage
Deleted User#0000: > ~~get a thinkpad~~
@BigPierogi If you buy an older one and upgrade it, it would be nice |
JustinXenyx#8854: hell the dell is objectively quite a bit worse
BigPierogi#3368: he wants new right
Deleted User#0000: Ok
BigPierogi#3368: from what i last remeber
Deleted User#0000: > The Vivobook looks like it makes a decent bit more sense, the dell is just pricy without any proper advantage
Then this the one he should buy
BigPierogi#3368: he could also look on laptopdeals
BigPierogi#3368: https://www.reddit.com/r/LaptopDeals/
JustinXenyx#8854: wait hol up
BigPierogi#3368: might be something
JustinXenyx#8854: yeah the dell basically only has a worse screen and worse memory upgrade options
BigPierogi#3368: dont newer dells not accept certain memeory
JustinXenyx#8854: i thought it had a dGPU, but that's an extra config option
BigPierogi#3368: comes with mcaffee
BigPierogi#3368: :epicgamer: |
BigPierogi#3368: whats his budget?
BigPierogi#3368: because i see a msi laptop
BigPierogi#3368: not gaming
BigPierogi#3368: https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Modern-14-A10RB-459-Professional/dp/B07WC93HJ6/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=msi+modern+14&qid=1586436109&s=electronics&sr=1-3&tag=laptopz18-20
JustinXenyx#8854: amazon.com m8
BigPierogi#3368: hes in ireland
JustinXenyx#8854: He lives in Ireland
BigPierogi#3368: i forget
Jamie.Cullen#8363: I do live in the land of the leprechaun yes
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Ok so the Vivobook works out better thanks fellas i'll put it down as an option
Jamie.Cullen#8363: I think 14" is a good sweet spot
BigPierogi#3368: 15" can also be good
BigPierogi#3368: depedning on what ur gonan do with it
CaldeiraG#0496: so my some years old laptop just broke, it's a acer aspire z5738, it has the black screen of death
CaldeiraG#0496: no post whatsoever |
CaldeiraG#0496: i took the ram out and still no beeps 😦
CaldeiraG#0496: any ideas?
CaldeiraG#0496: it couldn't have appeared at a better time, my sisters will start having online classes monday and this crap stops working today
Jamie.Cullen#8363: I presume its like ur spare laptop for ur sis to have online classes?
CaldeiraG#0496: it used to be my father's main laptop
CaldeiraG#0496: but he now uses a tablet to watch sports
CaldeiraG#0496: so the pc is been used by my sister
CaldeiraG#0496: i have 2 sisters tho, twins so 2 computers xd
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: No beeps, no lights as well?
CaldeiraG#0496: the disk light turns on for a split second and goes off, fans are spinning but no beeps
CaldeiraG#0496: as said, removing the RAM sticks didn't cause any beeps either
CaldeiraG#0496: people over the internet are saying corrupted bios
CaldeiraG#0496: external monitor also doesn't do anything
CaldeiraG#0496: i'm downloading a bios file hoping that it will not brick the pc lol
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Clean the RAM sticks and the slots? |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Get a clean piece of paper and brush the sticks a little bit.
CaldeiraG#0496: sure, i'll try
CaldeiraG#0496: nah, still the same
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Hmmmm...
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Rip
Jamie.Cullen#8363: How old is the laptop?
CaldeiraG#0496: not sure, it has a hd 4570 and a t6500 cpu
CaldeiraG#0496: https://www.notebookcheck.info/Acer-Aspire-5738PG.22972.0.html
CaldeiraG#0496: review articles point to 2009/10
Jamie.Cullen#8363: semi decent so
Deleted User#0000: is getting a 4790 from a 2600K (observation: already having a good 1150 board) an good decision?
no money to upgrade to a newer platform
JustinXenyx#8854: Not really
JustinXenyx#8854: You basically won't gain any major performance if your 2600K is overclocked well
Jam#0384: It's worth it if the 4790 is cheap, because higher IPC and the Haswell will run cooler if you cant cool the 2600K OC, and it boosts higher than a stock 4770K |
Jam#0384: But I mean CHEAP
Jam#0384: otherwise just save up for a Ryzen rig with 6 cores
Deleted User#0000: eh
Deleted User#0000: i dont have a OC mobo for the 2600k
Deleted User#0000: and the mobo i have that is 1150 can OC but eh its an 4790 non K
Deleted User#0000: im having VR problems with the 2600K
JustinXenyx#8854: A 4790 probably won't solve them though to be quite fair
JustinXenyx#8854: It's not a major performance step up, even from a stock 3600k
Muse#0557: A 4670k is around the price of a 2600k
Muse#0557: Ik less threads
Muse#0557: But atleast you can overclock
Muse#0557: If all you are doing is gaming
Muse#0557: Then it's a slight step up
JustinXenyx#8854: Nah not at all
JustinXenyx#8854: Especially in more modern games, where 4 core chips are suffering beyond hell |
Muse#0557: Pretty sure it would still be a net gain in performance
Muse#0557: Actually come to think of it
Muse#0557: Sell the lga 1150 board if you can
Muse#0557: And go ryzen
Muse#0557: They go for a decent bit
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah that probably makes a lot more sense
JustinXenyx#8854: especially if you are buying a 4790, people overprice them to hell
JustinXenyx#8854: better just selling your stuff and upgrading to Ryzen
Muse#0557: I think you'd get the money to get atleast a 1600 and b350
Jamie.Cullen#8363: https://www.ubuy.ie/en/search/index/view/product/B07RK5M35T/s/asus-vivobook-15-thin-and-light-laptop-15-6-fhd-intel-core-i3-8145u-cpu-8gb-ram-128gb-ssd-windows-10-in-s-mode-f512fa-ab34-slate-gray/store/store
Jamie.Cullen#8363: https://www.huntoffice.ie/asus-vivobook-laptop-display-141-inch-cpu-intel-core-i5-8265-8gb-ram-memory-256-ssd-storage-windows-10-s430fa-eb008t.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwssD0BRBIEiwA-JP5rANAG_Xf65ILgVkzK9CWDUZl-hR4c5VolCayvpjbQYdY7KVKkzyT9hoCo80QAvD_BwE
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Which would you guys go for?
Muse#0557: Neither
Muse#0557: They are both overpriced
Miki2305#5707: Yep |
Miki2305#5707: 462 euro for a vivobook 15''
Miki2305#5707: Thats expensive af
Muse#0557: Laptops in this price range suck
Miki2305#5707: but still cheaper than in my country
Muse#0557: They are too cheap to have a Dgpu
Miki2305#5707: In my country they sell like for 600+ euro
Muse#0557: But too expensive for the cpu to be good value
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Fucksake
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Cant find a decent price
Muse#0557: I would get a refurb surface pro 4 or something
Muse#0557: But that's just me
Muse#0557: Performance won't be the best
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Prefer a traditional laptop style
Muse#0557: But the niceness of using
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Its alright |
Miki2305#5707: Jammy what country do you live in?
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Ireland
Miki2305#5707: I can help you out find a laptop
Jamie.Cullen#8363: I dont bother buying from stores they're overpriced
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Online is my best bet
Miki2305#5707: Lemme check on amazon if there are any good deals
Jamie.Cullen#8363: it'll be Amazon UK]
Miki2305#5707: Ok
Miki2305#5707: Bruh is amazon on drugs
Miki2305#5707: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/698275113555984455/unknown.png
Miki2305#5707: Nvidia cpu?
Miki2305#5707: Whats your budget?
Miki2305#5707: https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-Laptop-Ryzen-Processor-Windows/dp/B081NLXKJ2/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=laptop&qid=1586552202&refinements=p_n_feature_browse-bin%3A1481781031%2Cp_36%3A428448031&rnid=428432031&s=computers&sr=1-6
Miki2305#5707: theres this one
Miki2305#5707: But i think its still a little bit overpriced |
Jamie.Cullen#8363: overpriced
Jamie.Cullen#8363: and bad reviews
Jamie.Cullen#8363: looking for 700-800 euro
Jamie.Cullen#8363: its for my birthday
Miki2305#5707: Happy Birthday whenever it is going to be or when ever it was
Miki2305#5707: What? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/698276746935664720/unknown.png
Miki2305#5707: Wait wrong link
Miki2305#5707: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KP6RH9R?creativeASIN=B07KP6RH9R&imprToken=HGCf.wN70hGohJFWl5fvaQ&slotNum=26&tag=laptopcut-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
Jamie.Cullen#8363: I can get a lenovo gaming laptop for that
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Oh no not HP
Miki2305#5707: Haitch Pea
Miki2305#5707: Lol
Miki2305#5707: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G7GSM29?creativeASIN=B07G7GSM29&imprToken=HGCf.wN70hGohJFWl5fvaQ&slotNum=22&tag=laptopcut-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
Miki2305#5707: Theres a matebook
Miki2305#5707: but I dont like Huawei very much |
Miki2305#5707: Is this a good price? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/698278722859565066/unknown.png
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Apparently its good but thats almost a grand on a laptop
Miki2305#5707: In that case its better to build a full pc
Miki2305#5707: but you want mobility?
Miki2305#5707: Theres the aspire 5
Miki2305#5707: But its not quite up there
Jamie.Cullen#8363: See my last laptop fried itself
Jamie.Cullen#8363: so im currently using my dads 2013 mbp
Jamie.Cullen#8363: But I wanna factory reset it and give it to my mum as she needs it for office work
Jamie.Cullen#8363: https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Dell-Latitude-E7250-Corei5-5th-Gen12-5-Laptop2-30GHz-4-128GB-SSD-win10-Backlitky/303493600685?hash=item46a9a0d5ad:g:Ii4AAOSwFHteS369
Miki2305#5707: its ok for 200 euro
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Then what you reccomend?
Miki2305#5707: If you buy that then get a bigger ssd
Miki2305#5707: And if possible more ram
Jamie.Cullen#8363: https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Dell-Latitude-E7250-Laptop-Thin-and-light-i5-with-SSD-Windows-10-Pro-and-HDMI/254452396850?hash=item3b3e8b7332:m:mtO_LrIqBvOrsVGuLjyuIJA |
Miki2305#5707: Or get an xps13
BigPierogi#3368: that screen
BigPierogi#3368: 720p
Miki2305#5707: And the angles are bad
Miki2305#5707: But if you can stand 720p its a good laptop for that money
BigPierogi#3368: thats 720p
BigPierogi#3368: just slightly higher
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Which Xps 13?
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Some have issues
Jamie.Cullen#8363: https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Dell-Latitude-E5470-14-128GB-SSD-Intel-Core-i5-2-4GHz-8GB-RAM-Win-10/114167380419?hash=item1a94e7f9c3:g:nGwAAOSwaXNehdIV
Kovoc#6037: Would this be the place to ask for help with building a PC?
TheGeekster#8508: Yep
Kovoc#6037: Okay, I need a lot of help with designing one, I have a very small budget (I don't have much money) so I don't know what to do (like build from scratch or refurbish a prebuilt machine)
Jamie.Cullen#8363: You can go either way
Jamie.Cullen#8363: What do you want out of your PC? |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: What's your budget?
Kovoc#6037: My budget is $400 CAD
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Ok
Jamie.Cullen#8363: I'm in Ireland so that equates to about 260 euro lol
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Is this your first time building a pc?
Kovoc#6037: Yes
Jamie.Cullen#8363: What do you want to do do you want to game or just general office like pc?
Kovoc#6037: I do want to play some games
JustinXenyx#8854: If you want to game, would you be fine with used components?
Kovoc#6037: Yes I would be fine with used components
Jamie.Cullen#8363: I would say maybe try nab a Dell Optiplex and a Graphics card and you've got yourself a prebuild with solid build quality and you'll just need to add a better power supply and graphics card
Jamie.Cullen#8363: What games you wanna play?
JustinXenyx#8854: Nah, he has a little more budget for dell optiplex + graphics card lol, also that PC would be rather limited in its upgrading capabilities
Kovoc#6037: The games I would like to play are Rimworld, Factorio, Terraria and possibly Minecraft
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Yeah but gets him started |
JustinXenyx#8854: Hell even a basic AM4 build could pull that off
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Oh then go Ryzen
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Yeah was gonna say
JustinXenyx#8854: So that you'd have a decent upgrade base to put better components in later on when you have more money
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Tis just me where prices are too high in EU
Jamie.Cullen#8363: But yeah he could do an apu rig for now and add a GPU Later
CaldeiraG#0496: https://discordapp.com/channels/355098188312477696/545181464363401216/698188718485405766
So I opened my PC to replace the CMOS battery but still black screen of death, no external monitor signal, taking RAM/HD out doesn't make any beeps 😦
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Man I think its toast my dude
Jamie.Cullen#8363: It had a good run
CaldeiraG#0496: probably lol
CaldeiraG#0496: i could give up my current pc when i buy new parts for it
CaldeiraG#0496: but covid-19 is kicking up the prices
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @CaldeiraG Maybe dead GPU? |
JustinXenyx#8854: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/QxvcV7 This is probably what i would start with for around 430 cad (no rebate), all new. You've got a decently large case and a decent motherboard to fit with later upgrades
JustinXenyx#8854: You could definitely make it cheaper and better by grabbing a used case, a used 2200G and used memory (although used memory seems to dry up a decent bit because of COVID-19)
JustinXenyx#8854: I went for 16GB instead of 8, because with an APU your RAM also becomes the VRAM for the integrated graphics and with 8GB of RAM you can face some RAM issues when gaming
Kovoc#6037: So I won't need a graphics card for games with simple graphics?
JustinXenyx#8854: No, the integrated graphics inside of the Athlon 3000G should be able to easily handle the games you are playing/want to play
JustinXenyx#8854: But, if you want to play something that needs more processing power, you can always get a better processor and a better graphics card later on
JustinXenyx#8854: The same goes for storage really, if you need a hard drive or already have one, you can just put it in aswell
CaldeiraG#0496: > @CaldeiraG Maybe dead GPU?
@Charlie Foxtrot perhaps? i'm looking at a service guide now
CaldeiraG#0496: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/698505505752219718/Screenshot_500.png
Kovoc#6037: Do you think I could salvage any parts from the old laptop I'm stuck with right now?
CaldeiraG#0496: i reconnected all of this connectors + replaced CMOS
CaldeiraG#0496: so dead mb?
JustinXenyx#8854: You could probably salvage the storage that's in it, but otherwise probably nothing @Kovoc
Kovoc#6037: Okay |
Kovoc#6037: Thank you for all the help
JustinXenyx#8854: If you have any further questions, just ask
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @CaldeiraG Can I have the model number?
CaldeiraG#0496: acer aspire 5738pg
CaldeiraG#0496: the service guide i'm looking at
CaldeiraG#0496: https://archive.org/details/service-manual-acer-aspire-5738g-5738zg-5738z-5738-5338-5536/page/n109/mode/2up
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Might be a dead CPU?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Or the board?
CaldeiraG#0496: most likely
CaldeiraG#0496: it's no good when i'm trying to get it back to life
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It's too old after all. Might be time to retire it...
CaldeiraG#0496: 😦
CaldeiraG#0496: i have a even older laptop working
CaldeiraG#0496: https://es.dynabook.com/discontinued-products/satellite-m30x-144/
CaldeiraG#0496: it has 2gb of ram lol |
KingGaurav#4771: guys, I copied over some movies to my dad's external HDD, and when he plugged it into the tv, it showed 0 files, and when I plugged it back into my pc "This file or directory is corrupted and unreadable"
JustinXenyx#8854: Check the HDD with CrystalDiskInfo
JustinXenyx#8854: Could be that the HDD is dying
KingGaurav#4771: > so my some years old laptop just broke, it's a acer aspire z5738, it has the black screen of death
@CaldeiraG although this message is old, on older acers you have to keep reseating ram until they are happy. And both acers I've used don't make beeps when no ram is installed
CaldeiraG#0496: not sure what you mean by old message, was just yesterday
CaldeiraG#0496: thanks tho xD
KingGaurav#4771: the two acers I've worked on are travelmate from 2011 And 2013
CaldeiraG#0496: i see
KingGaurav#4771: well a day is enough for someone to throw out laptops but yeah...
KingGaurav#4771: also dust could also be causing it to not work, however unlikely
KingGaurav#4771: my computer once wouldn't turn on because of a ton of dust around the cpu socket
KingGaurav#4771: but it could also be a fried board
CaldeiraG#0496: dust is unlikely
CaldeiraG#0496: i opened it all just this morning |
CaldeiraG#0496: cleaned my best
KingGaurav#4771: ah then you can rule that out
CaldeiraG#0496: replaced CMOS because after 8 years it could be that, still nothing
CaldeiraG#0496: betting it's a faulty mb
KingGaurav#4771: replacing the CMOS after 8 years can't cause it to not work, it will just reset to defaults
CaldeiraG#0496: The internet said otherwise but I replaced it anyways
CaldeiraG#0496: Got bunch of those
KingGaurav#4771: Try turning on with no cmos battery
KingGaurav#4771: also, if it's from 09, core 2 duo or celeron I guess?
KingGaurav#4771: could also be bad ram.
CaldeiraG#0496: T6600
CaldeiraG#0496: I have two sticks, I tried booting only one on the 2 slots I got
CaldeiraG#0496: Sadly I don't have another one to rule that out
read bio/description#8459: hello
Budget#8265: If you ask your question and ping people will help you, but i am warnign you to listen to them |
Budget#8265: Those with the Tech Helper Role have been seen to know what they're talking about
read bio/description#8459: so i can tag them right
read bio/description#8459: i'll take that as a yes
TheGeekster#8508: yeah you can tag them
read bio/description#8459: @Tech Helper Hi, 2 questions:
1. where can I find a cheap 24 pin to 16 pin PSU adapter? (link please)
2. is a working motherboard that doesnt always turn on a good buy? (its normal 24 pin, i have either a fully working 16pin fujitsu one or a 24pin msi/medion one with that issue)
Jam#0384: no and no
JustinXenyx#8854: a working board that doesn't always turn in is not a working board
read bio/description#8459: okay
Jam#0384: If you need to use a PSU with a 16pin power, it probably doesn't work
Budget#8265: Probs dying BIOS Chip
Jam#0384: well
Jam#0384: It's not going to be good to use
Jam#0384: Even if you convert it |
read bio/description#8459: its a normal fujitsu motherboard that fits in a normal case but needs a proprietary psu
Jam#0384: It's likely low wattage
JustinXenyx#8854: Also: 16pin can mean ANYTHING. You need to be a lot more specific with that
read bio/description#8459: here's the board https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/698592351240847411/unknown.png
read bio/description#8459: @JustinXenyx is this specific enough
JustinXenyx#8854: no that's not specific at all
JustinXenyx#8854: i don't know what the motherboard is called or out of what pc it came
read bio/description#8459: Fujitsu TX100 S3 D3009-A11 GS 3
JustinXenyx#8854: not finding a lot of adapters for that model tbh
tdp2612#3835: yeah thats gonna be awkward
tdp2612#3835: the standard psu for them is only 250w because its meant to be a server
tdp2612#3835: and they are hella expensive if you wanted to buy one for whatever reason
tdp2612#3835: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1464320
How about people talking about it on pistonheads of all places |
tdp2612#3835: this guy just ended up not swapping the psu and using the factory one in the proper case
tdp2612#3835: id say sell that board and replace it with one thats more conventional
read bio/description#8459: ok i see, I found a pc being sold by a person who probably doesnt know anything about pcs, has a nice 1156 board inside, would it be worth it for around 13,5 GBP?
tdp2612#3835: yes
read bio/description#8459: I asked them if they are willing to sell the board alone, rn the price for the pc (which also has the exact same antec case as my brother's) is 99 PLN, if the first question not gonna work, then I'm gonna be trying to talk the price down, it has some 1st gen i3, some shitty geforce 7300 gpu and only 2 gb of ram, but seems like a good base for upgrades.
read bio/description#8459: still better than getting a sandy sff, cuz i wouldnt have issues with the gpu stuff
read bio/description#8459: also sandy sffs are much more expensive than that pc
xmassguy#1303: for a gaming pc i can get a ryzen 5 3600 with a gtx 1070 8gb blower style and 16gb of ram with a 500 gb nvme ssd for $850 or a ryzen 7 1700 with a gtx 1060 6gb and 8gb of ram with 500 gb hdd for $650
xmassguy#1303: or a ryzen 3600 with 16gb of ram and an rx 580 8gb and 1500 gb of storage
xmassguy#1303: for 750
MythologicalZ#3752: The 850 3600
Racey#8574: Ryzen 5 3600 is way better than a Ryzen 7 1700
Racey#8574: GTX 1070 is better than an RX 580
xmassguy#1303: right but the blower on it tho
MythologicalZ#3752: Blower is fine on a 1070 |
Racey#8574: That won't overheat it
Racey#8574: You can buy a hard drive separately for data storage for like $30 if you need it or like a 1 TB SSD for $90
xmassguy#1303: ok but is 850 usd a fair price for that too or should i try to haggle him down
JustinXenyx#8854: They all sound rather expensive in my head
JustinXenyx#8854: They all sound like prebuilt computers aswell
xmassguy#1303: yea thats why i came here
xmassguy#1303: they are used
tdp2612#3835: knock them down a bit then
tdp2612#3835: tell them youve got 650 and thats an absolute maximum
xmassguy#1303: if i sold 1070 for a 1660 6gb would that be a good idea
JustinXenyx#8854: Not really
xmassguy#1303: I can build one brand new on amazon with a ryzen 5 3600 an asroc b450m mobo 16gb of ram a 600 watt psu and a gtx 1660 sc ultra 6gb for 685
Miki2305#5707: Happy Easter Everyone!
Deleted User#0000: Happy easter
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: decided to re-test 20.2.2 maybe last time i had some option turned on that was causing weird frame issues with my 470 , turned out it was image sharpening and or anti lag , after disabling both ( not setting it to any mode or just standard profile was same as disabling all) solved the issues , and in the same games i was getting alot more consistent frame rates from the last drivers that i found stable which were 18.8.1 which not kidding were the only drivers that seemed to not have issues prior . but only problem now is that now that im getting better fps , im getting lower temps on the same game , say rise of the tomb raider stresses my gpu to 100% i can see up to 80c on the older drivers , but the newer ones i was getting better frame rates and never pased 65c so i really got confused as to how this was possible , turns out the core clock is clocking down a little from the stock 1256 to around 1240 ish or higher which is pretty close to stock but still doesnt explain why so low temps , or does it??? can this very little throtle down make that much of a difference ?? cause on 18.8.1 it was locked at 1256 but temps were higher so could it be reading the temps wrong outright? or is this some tweak im not aware of or not understanding |
**tldr;
1. 20.2.2 frame issues with rx 470 ( fixed by disabling image sharpening and anti lag)
2 . much lower temps with 20.2.2 with better fps than 18.8.1 ( 80c to 65c) but i noticed card clocking down from 1256 to 1240 on core clock , could this little down clock be the reason? or could there potentially be an issue with reading temps**
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: (also please ping )
tdp2612#3835: @TheGeekster how come my f@h thing didnt come up on the leaderboard?
tdp2612#3835: i mean it was only 1000 points but i thought it would be there
tdp2612#3835: and my points earned thing says 0
TheGeekster#8508: The stats aren't the greatest thing in the world, it takes a while for things to update, did you join the team?
tdp2612#3835: yeah
tdp2612#3835: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/698924669126049802/unknown.png
tdp2612#3835: https://pastebin.com/Q1uPx0hd
tdp2612#3835: thats just a chunk copied off the log thing, i see a lot of 'failed to send'
TheGeekster#8508: Ah, points won't count until the result has been sent and sorted
xXSUBEXx#9544: Any Termal Paste recommedations?
xXSUBEXx#9544: i will use it to hopefully fix my gpu |
xXSUBEXx#9544: because i heard an issue might be badly applied Termal Paste on the Gpu that causes blackscreens and the fans going to 100%
KingGaurav#4771: Can someone tell me how to remove these mouse buttons https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/698930949550899320/JPEG_20200412_215147.jpg
KingGaurav#4771: anyone knows?
tdp2612#3835: what are you trying to do
tdp2612#3835: if you take them off, there will just be a hole
tdp2612#3835: its a cheap mouse, just buy a different one thats got no buttons or just a layout you prefer
Heretic#2498: @xXSUBEXx I always arctic silver myself
HappySlappyFace#0441: @KingGaurav desolder them
DarknessFalls229#2286: hmmmmm
DarknessFalls229#2286: i think
DarknessFalls229#2286: i need a lot older computer for my printer
DarknessFalls229#2286: windows 7 aint gonna cut it
DarknessFalls229#2286: with a dot matrix printer out of 1985
DarknessFalls229#2286: i have NO IDEA how to use it
HappySlappyFace#0441: @DarknessFalls229 watch druaga1 |
HappySlappyFace#0441: you will prob learn something
DarknessFalls229#2286: thats gonna be a hard no from me
Xbox 360 1953#2640: y
DarknessFalls229#2286: >asks about old printer
>gets youtuber recommended which has a singular printer video and an unedited video style
TheGeekster#8508: *beautiful*
TheGeekster#8508: unfortunately this probably isn't gonna be a great place to figure out help for such an old printer, any chance you've got any drivers for it?
DarknessFalls229#2286: nope
DarknessFalls229#2286: received it for free, didnt even have the proper cable for it for a while
DarknessFalls229#2286: but it DOES do a test print
DarknessFalls229#2286: and it sounds awesome
DarknessFalls229#2286: ever heard a printer SCREAM before?
JustinXenyx#8854: i've heard printers play doom before and i would say that counts, so yes
tdp2612#3835: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG8RAbWs1yo ?
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah that and another video by some polish guy |
JustinXenyx#8854: Incredible stuff tbh
Jam#0384: hot
DarknessFalls229#2286: i wanted to show mine but _appearently_ 8 seconds of footage is already 26MB
Jam#0384: sucks to be you
tdp2612#3835: :Frobot:
AlexGuy#6241: Heyo, since this place is full of people with knowledge about old and obscure tech, anyone know anything about the SiS Mirage 3+ igp? I was trying to run quake 2 but ran into some bizzare issues
Jam#0384: It’s because it’s SIS
Jam#0384: The SIS cards don’t work very well and perform pretty poorly- and drivers and be a huge issue
Jam#0384: You’re better off with Matrox, 3Dfx, nVidia, or ATI
Jam#0384: But you should try a different driver if possible
Jam#0384: Or maybe it just “doesn’t” like that game
kite#6868: hi
KingGaurav#4771: > thats gonna be a hard no from me
vm maybe?
AlexGuy#6241: > Or maybe it just “doesn’t” like that game |
@Jam The game looks and performs better in software mode
AlexGuy#6241: Sooo
Galilool#3398: Has anyone here used Mesen (NES emulator) before? And if yes, can someone help me with it?
Galilool#3398: I want to use my steam controller with it but it doesn't detect inputs
Swellow there#6655: Idk
Swellow there#6655: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/699251382955409428/20200413_093326.jpg
Swellow there#6655: I'm doing a daily use battery life test
JustinXenyx#8854: Basically @Galilool
JustinXenyx#8854: Anything you want to do with the steam controller, you have to run through steam
Galilool#3398: That sucks
Galilool#3398: I just wanna play tetris
JustinXenyx#8854: You can easily add stuff to steam with GloSC (Global SteamController) but that means it is still running via steam
Galilool#3398: I'll try that out, thanks
JustinXenyx#8854: The problem with having the steam controller being so customizable is the fact that it's not directly seen as a controller by windows
JustinXenyx#8854: Said this one and i'll say it again, if the Steam Controller had a native XInput mode with all the buttons being 1:1 the same as native xbox binding it wouldn't have gotten so much bad rep |
read bio/description#8459: @Tech Helper hiya, does this motherboard have standard front panel connectors? I'm afraid it might not so I'm asking cuz other than that it would work in a normal case just fine. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/699332880416899163/unknown.png
Budget#8265: Looks like a HP board so ima say no
read bio/description#8459: thats dell lol
TheGeekster#8508: Nope it doesn't, look at the bottom left corner of it, that black bar is the front panel connectors for *that* computer
Budget#8265: Sell USFF
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I recognize that board
read bio/description#8459: Damn that sucks, u sure I wouldnt be able to connect normal connectors?
Budget#8265: Looks like standard USB/AUdio and prorietary front panel
Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/699333122034237571/unknown.png
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Looks like its out of a 7010 or 9010
read bio/description#8459: That's exactly what my bro said @Budget
read bio/description#8459: @Xbox 360 1953 790 to be exact
Xbox 360 1953#2640: you can jam the power on into specific pins here https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/699333217097875607/unknown.png
Xbox 360 1953#2640: that black thing
read bio/description#8459: I have 4 cables: USB, Power Led, HDD Led and Power Switch. |
JustinXenyx#8854: You would have to know the pinout of the old cases buttons to be able to rewire it properly to be used with a standard case
Xbox 360 1953#2640: let me find it
Budget#8265: A standard bought is like not much more thant hat so imo dont
Xbox 360 1953#2640: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/699333417522823249/large.png
read bio/description#8459: @Budget Unfortunately that's not the case in Poland :/
Budget#8265: Ali express
Budget#8265: again
read bio/description#8459: I tried
read bio/description#8459: the lowest they had was 100 PLN (this one is 75)
Alcyone#2233: my advice is to never buy an oem mobo, unless its a replacement for the machine it came out of.
Budget#8265: ^
read bio/description#8459: I would do exactly that but the polish prices just suck.
read bio/description#8459: Here's a second pic if it helps @Xbox 360 1953 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/699333893630984312/Plyta-Glowna-LGA-1155-Dell-790-Desktop-0HY9JP-Model-790-Desktop.png
read bio/description#8459: in 1,4 which one is plus and which one is minus?
Alcyone#2233: shitty power limitations, bios limitations, device whitelist. proprietary connections, lack of drivers/ support. its usually not worth the hassle to save a few bucks |
Xbox 360 1953#2640: shouldn't matter i dont think
Xbox 360 1953#2640: for power
read bio/description#8459: @Alcyone Power limitations? Wdym? I wouldn't overclock. What whitelist? Drivers would come from Win Update.
read bio/description#8459: The only other cheap mobo is AM3+ for 50 PLN.
read bio/description#8459: My bro gave me an idea, I'mma check some SFF PCs, I haven't thought before of getting a PCI-E Riser.
Alcyone#2233: some of the lowest end hp etc have power limit for the pcie slot or any oem can lack bios support for newer gpus
MythologicalZ#3752: 790 doesn't have any of that afaik
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Yeah
MythologicalZ#3752: Biggest struggle is gonna be the fp
read bio/description#8459: @Alcyone thats a dell
MythologicalZ#3752: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/699335382054993940/images.png
MythologicalZ#3752: Here is the power setup
MythologicalZ#3752: Which is all you really need
Alcyone#2233: im seeing h and b boards for like 30 usd or less
MythologicalZ#3752: Yeah h61 is like 30 dollars |
read bio/description#8459: Yeah Poland am I right?
Alcyone#2233: to poland
read bio/description#8459: show me
read bio/description#8459: also that board is 17,94 USD
Alcyone#2233: 140 PLN is like $30
MythologicalZ#3752: I see the fp thing was already posted
MythologicalZ#3752: So I'll leave you to it
read bio/description#8459: @Alcyone thats twice the thing I found
read bio/description#8459: Damn it.
Deleted User#0000: I gotta subjective question. I got one 16gb ripjaws 3200mhz stick. Should i sell it for a 2x8 3200 corsair vengeance kit or buy another ripjaws stick for a total of 32gigs?
tdp2612#3835: whats the rest of the computer like
tdp2612#3835: as selling a 16 stick to swap for 2x8 is a bit daft, sure itll be an improvement but youd be moving backwards in that youd have both slots filled
DarknessFalls229#2286: is a 1070ti for 220 euro a good price? or is it better to go for something like a 1660 ti?
Deleted User#0000: @tdp2612 ryzen 5 3600 and a 2070
Deleted User#0000: rgb is rgb ykno |
DarknessFalls229#2286: id say another 16 GB stick cant hurt, although personally havent really used anything that uses more than 16GBs of RAM
DarknessFalls229#2286: so if you want to save money you can sell it and get 2 8GB sticks
Deleted User#0000: exactly thats why i was thibkin rgb cause yknow, rgb
tdp2612#3835: id say just stay with 1 stick for now and move to 32 whenever you have a bit of money
Deleted User#0000: ite hot man thanks
JustinXenyx#8854: objectively, you're killing a LOT of performance by having single channel memory @Deleted User
JustinXenyx#8854: But if you already have it etc etc it does not make a whole lot of sense to go out of your way to buy another 16GB stick now
DarknessFalls229#2286: Justin, opinions?
JustinXenyx#8854: let me finish heathen
DarknessFalls229#2286: hey now
JustinXenyx#8854: like others suggested, get an extra stick when you can afford too, so that you not only have 32GB but also dual channel @Deleted User
DarknessFalls229#2286: _now_ your opinion then? @JustinXenyx
Deleted User#0000: @JustinXenyx yeh was thinkin of that
JustinXenyx#8854: > _now_ your opinion then?
@DarknessFalls229 READ |
JustinXenyx#8854: I already gave my opinion :Hahahahaha:
DarknessFalls229#2286: ON THE FUCKING 1070TI
JustinXenyx#8854: on what
JustinXenyx#8854: oh sorry i totally ignored that
DarknessFalls229#2286: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/699394322927190066/unknown.png
JustinXenyx#8854: 1070Ti for 220€ is not the worst thing in the world, performs like a 2070 or 2060 Super
JustinXenyx#8854: so that is definitely the better value
Deleted User#0000: wut
Deleted User#0000: doesnt perform like a 2070
JustinXenyx#8854: Yes it does
Deleted User#0000: more like a 2060 super
JustinXenyx#8854: the 2060 super and 2070 perform pretty much identical
Deleted User#0000: 1080 is a bit worse than the 2070
JustinXenyx#8854: like not even 5% fps difference
DarknessFalls229#2286: my main GPU performs just like an RTX 2080 |
JustinXenyx#8854: yeah but i'm pretty sure it IS a 2080
Deleted User#0000: 5% is all an epic gamer needs
DarknessFalls229#2286: hehe it sure is
DarknessFalls229#2286: but ill tell my bud i found a good listing on a 1070ti
DarknessFalls229#2286: cause i usually see them up and above 270 euro
DarknessFalls229#2286: hes got like a budget of 200-300 euro for a GPU
DarknessFalls229#2286: and after he bought a new i5 7500 for 200 euro i aint gonna let him get something like a 1050ti for 250 euro
Deleted User#0000: an i5 7500 for 200?
Deleted User#0000: got ripped off
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeeeeeeee
DarknessFalls229#2286: it aint great
DarknessFalls229#2286: like i said to him that he couldve moved to ryzen for that price, he said that hed have to move platform for it, but still he can still get a 1600 for that budget
DarknessFalls229#2286: and in hindsight he did agree
BlackGrim#0433: So... i just buy a new motherboard for athlon 200ge and i forgot to buy thermal paste and have 3 days to test if it doa
BlackGrim#0433: Can i pull out my cpu without cleaning the thermal paste |
BlackGrim#0433: And put it in the new motherboard without risking my cpu to overheat?
RiIey#0001: so, basically, literally 5 minutes ago my pc went haywire (not really). i was in the middle of a fortnite match because i was playing with friends. my pc randomly popped and turned off. it no longer turns on. i havent been able to investigate but what could have hapenned? keep in mind it is older hardware
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Check the GPU?
RiIey#0001: its a loud pop
RiIey#0001: doubt its the gpu
RiIey#0001: it doesnt turn on at all
RiIey#0001: its a Thermaltake 875w
RiIey#0001: (the psu)
Sentient Potato#6003: Sounds like the psu exploded
Sentient Potato#6003: At least there was no fire
RiIey#0001: I know one repair shop in my town near me, so hopefully i can get it repaired
RiIey#0001: thanks for the help
mish#5687: @Deleted User kaby lake cpus are overpriced
VanGuard#4548: If your PSU popped it might have taken the entire system with it to the grave
Lady Mipha#0611: ^^^^^ |
JustinXenyx#8854: @wiryfuture🦀 did you delete the screenshot because you found out what was using so much memory or do you still have no clue?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: @JustinXenyx I still have no clue but it went down a bit
wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/699617320162820148/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: Is windows 10 supposed to use 4GB?
JustinXenyx#8854: Windows 10 RAM usage went up a lot in the last 2 years or so, i wouldn't count it as abnormal
wiryfuture🦀#1706: okay
wiryfuture🦀#1706: so I should install linux? :epicgamer:
wiryfuture🦀#1706: Has linux reached the point where you can hop to it from windows without much hassle?
tdp2612#3835: no
JustinXenyx#8854: Not really @wiryfuture🦀
JustinXenyx#8854: It has become easier to use given the right distro yes, but it's still not easy switching from windows to linux unless you are willing to deal with a lot of compromises
wiryfuture🦀#1706: Eh, I use linux all the time on my VMs, i'm sure it can't be that bad
wiryfuture🦀#1706: anyway, it would be useful for me to have linux so that I don't have to mess around with a container on windows
wiryfuture🦀#1706: 4.7GB at boot after a restart
wiryfuture🦀#1706: there's no way ubuntu uses this much |
TheGeekster#8508: i have tabs, windows, and loads of programs open, and at startup i use 6.6gb of ram, like 🤔 that's not an insane amount, but it's higher than normal, you do also have a lot of extra services and things running in the background like virtualisation etc, they ALL take up ram @wiryfuture🦀 no matter what OS you run
wiryfuture🦀#1706: @TheGeekster No, all my virtualised stuff is on my server, I'm talking about my laptop here lol, I only have these startup tasks enabled, and they use barely and ram (I can see in task manager) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/699652602165723216/unknown.png
TheGeekster#8508: those tasks don't mean anything, it's the services you have running that makes a difference
TheGeekster#8508: have you got virtualbox installed on your laptop?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: yes but it's not doing anything
wiryfuture🦀#1706: it's broken it won't do anything
TheGeekster#8508: i'd try and remove it, uninstall things you don't need, and you'd be suprised how much ram frees up in the background
wiryfuture🦀#1706: okay
wiryfuture🦀#1706: uninstalling VMbox didn't really make a difference
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I don't have any applications I can remove left
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I think windows just doesn't manage ram well
wiryfuture🦀#1706: why is this happening? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/699692894025678878/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I only see 3GB of ram being used
JustinXenyx#8854: firstly
JustinXenyx#8854: how much ram does the machine have? |
JustinXenyx#8854: how much ram is being used idle?
TheGeekster#8508: also are you using 32 or 64bit java?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: It has 4GB assigned to it and it's running ubuntu on cli and uses more ram the more I give it
wiryfuture🦀#1706: (ubuntu works fine for me with as little as 512M 🤷🏻♀️, this one idles at 3.4GB/4GB)
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I feel like something has gone wrong with my server because the performance monitor isn't working and I can't see text I type inside of the cli
wiryfuture🦀#1706: It is 64 bit java fyi
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I'm going to restart the server and see if that helps
JustinXenyx#8854: how the fuck do you expect a ubuntu install with 4 gigabytes to run a java program that takes OVER 4 gigabytes on its own??
Xbox 360 1953#2640: yes
wiryfuture🦀#1706: 3750M != 4 gigabytes but ok
JustinXenyx#8854: 3750+512= MORE than 4GB but ok
JustinXenyx#8854: oh wait no, i forgot how java works
JustinXenyx#8854: 512 is the minimum thingie, while 3750 is the maximum
JustinXenyx#8854: It still makes no sense
JustinXenyx#8854: Ubuntu alone is taking 3.4GB out of 4GB |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: Apparently it does a thing where when ram isn't being used, it uses most of the ram as a file cache
wiryfuture🦀#1706: Well, that was a post about 14 but it can't have changed that much
wiryfuture🦀#1706: When I increased the VM to 6GB, it was using 5.7GB (alone)
wiryfuture🦀#1706: it gets stuck at this part I think https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/699712266739777619/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I'm concerned because the cpu usage has fallen significantly
wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/699712631463870654/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: yet it has thrown a FATAL error yet
wiryfuture🦀#1706: maybe it's done..
wiryfuture🦀#1706: it is
wiryfuture🦀#1706: well, that wasn't very graceful
read bio/description#8459: Hi, GTX 650 (Gainward 1G GDDR5)(60 PLN = 11,55 GBP) vs HD 7770 (MSI 1G GDDR5)(80 PLN = 15,41 GBP), which one is better? @Tech Helper
Budget#8265: Well price to performance GTX650
Budget#8265: Performance HD7770
Budget#8265: Id go HD7770
JustinXenyx#8854: Objectively, the HD7770 is better |
JustinXenyx#8854: The 650 is pretty dated and it's rather shitty drivers are not helping it
Budget#8265: Eh the drivers arent optimised for games
Budget#8265: They are however stable
Budget#8265: NVENC performance suprised me
Alcyone#2233: Id take a gcn card over fermi or kepler
CaptainFlanger#2563: GCN every day.
LuminousFuture#5919: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YYWLGFM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1 , is this a good audio interface for the price?
KingGaurav#4771: Guys, So I have a problem with Windows 7 bcd. So I applied Windows 10 BCD to my flash drive, and it booted to the boot manager. But when I apply Windows 7 bcd, it won't boot. I have tried to use the bcd commands both from an actual machine and a virtual machine.
TheGeekster#8508: @LuminousFuture Does it do everything you need it to do?
TheGeekster#8508: What are you actually trying to do? Are you trying to put windows on a USB flash drive? @KingGaurav Cuz that won't work capn'
KingGaurav#4771: well it will, and has been done before, and I got it to boot to the Windows 7 boot manager
KingGaurav#4771: turns out the drive was set to not bootable
TheGeekster#8508: i... deeply question why... that would be so unusable, and usb drivers aren't loaded properly at boot as it's not considered bootable
Deleted User#0000: i have an Z77 DS3H and an Z97X Gaming 3
i use an RAID0 with 2 SSD's on the Z77 |
is there a way to transfer the RAID to the other mobo without killing it?
Deleted User#0000: they are gigabyte
TheGeekster#8508: eh it's risky
Deleted User#0000: without killing i mean
Deleted User#0000: without having to clean the files
TheGeekster#8508: it's likely to not work, as it's nasty software raid, did you raid it in windows? or is it on the motherboard?
Deleted User#0000: mobo
TheGeekster#8508: then yeah probably not going to work
Deleted User#0000: sad
Deleted User#0000: knew it
TheGeekster#8508: best way to do it would be back it up off of it, set up the new system, then restore it
Deleted User#0000: yup
TheGeekster#8508: would personally avoid Raid 0 on SSD's
Deleted User#0000: im doing that
Deleted User#0000: oh |
Deleted User#0000: why tho?
Deleted User#0000: the only problem i had was like
Deleted User#0000: any file extraction or heavy downloads would KILL the O.S
Deleted User#0000: but games ran fine smh
TheGeekster#8508: it's just extra risk for very little reward, you're better off just getting a normal SSD with a dram cache, are you using quite cheap SSD's?
Deleted User#0000: yup
Deleted User#0000: 2 kingspec ones
Deleted User#0000: the final speed is 1gb write and read
TheGeekster#8508: oh god, i... realllllly wouldn't run raid 0 on them, or at least always keep a backup
Deleted User#0000: oh..
Deleted User#0000: it ran for 2 months until now
Deleted User#0000: 1*
Deleted User#0000: i mean
if i run the O.S on another ssd and use the raid one only for gaming would it be less worse then?
idk |
TheGeekster#8508: it's good to keep it simple, install the operating system on one SSD, and games and stuff on another
erc4#4420: hello so i have a bit of a problem i have an old pc, like really old and it won't boot up and it has some really important pictures. does anyone know what can i do?
TheGeekster#8508: how experienced are you with computers? and do you have another computer? i'd suggest taking it to a computer repair shop if not, as you don't want to do more damage if it's not booting properly and you NEED stuff off of it
Budget#8265: ^
Budget#8265: If you know computers you can probably plug it into another computer and get the files off
erc4#4420: okay thanks i'll try that
Alcyone#2233: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zF3RRk
I need some fans for this bitchin' ivy britches pc. I was thinking of just going with cheap white led fans from amazon or an arctic 5 pack
TheGeekster#8508: TBF For the price of the system yeah, go for some cheap white LED fans, they'll look alright and provide some airflow through
CaptainFlanger#2563: Did someone said "Ivy Britches"?
Jam#0384: Ivy Bitch **best**
Alcyone#2233: im more of a sandy man. but I wouldn't kick any 1155 i5/i7 out of bed
Jam#0384: The only Ivy I even have is an i3
Jam#0384: All my good 1155 are sandy |
Xbox 360 1953#2640: i have a 3470 somewhere
Alcyone#2233: ive had 2500k, 2550k, 3550, 3570k
2600k, 2700k, 3770
using 3570k daily rn
Deleted User#0000: I had a celeron g550, a pentium g2020 and an i5 2400
dexsters56#4904: I need some asistance with bios flashing
dexsters56#4904: I have a P35T-A v:1.0 and i need help getting the bios updated
Budget#8265: @Tech Helper
Budget#8265: Have you already started DOS on the board with the files
Jam#0384: Basically
TheGeekster#8508: Why do you need to update the bios first?
Jam#0384: Does your board support USB flashing
Budget#8265: https://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/support/articles/000006929/boards-and-kits/desktop-boards.html
Budget#8265: Just follow what Intel say to do on your ECS Board |
Budget#8265: You just have to boot to DOS and run AFUSDOS
Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/700413266345853009/unknown.png
Budget#8265: You just need these files on here
Budget#8265: However i am not responsible if you cock up a BIOS flash via DOS
Budget#8265: Also yeah why?
Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/700413551994470450/unknown.png
Jam#0384: Even companies say if you don't have a problem you shouldn't bother
Jam#0384: So you know unless something isn't working inside the BIOS, compatiblity, etc
Jam#0384: It can be a risky thing if you don't know what you're doing, so if you are doing it for shits and giggles it may not be worthwhile.
Budget#8265: ^
Jam#0384: I've got tons of stuff, and I've only ever needed to actually update a BIOS ~3 times so far.
Alcyone#2233: most ecs bios come with afuwin and afudos in a package with a readme that has instructions
Budget#8265: ^
Gabriel.O#1663: Hello , I got a samsung 960 Evo (1tb) recently from a friend who used it for a few months and yesterday when I installed it everything was fine and smooth until today when I tried to install a game ,and it started to act weird , it was really slow for some reason . However I tried to scan it with the Samsung Magician software but the results where good , it didn’t have bad sectors .When I tried to run the performance scan it froze at 3% and never continue , also I couldn’t optimize it from windows for the same reason as the performance scan.
I’ve tried to update the drivers, I’ve tried the chkdsk D: /f /r /x and still nothing .I don’t know what to do . |
Gabriel.O#1663: I can’t install anything on it , I can only store some data
Jam#0384: Have ye formatted it correctly in Windows?
Gabriel.O#1663: Yea , I tried formatting it from windows and from some program called aomei
TheGeekster#8508: I'd suggest reformatting it using Disk Manager built into windows, and not to use third party programs if you can avoid it. It looks like something hasn't quite gone right otherwise
TheGeekster#8508: This isn't your boot drive, right? So you boot off of another drive, and this is just for games?
Bogi76#3090: any socket 1150 chipset i should look after?
Gabriel.O#1663: @TheGeekster my games drive
TheGeekster#8508: how is it slow btw? like, what's the issue?
Gabriel.O#1663: like when I transfer data
TheGeekster#8508: what speed?
Gabriel.O#1663: under 5mb/s
TheGeekster#8508: what are you transferring it from?
Gabriel.O#1663: from the 960 to my other one
TheGeekster#8508: huh, weird, i'd try reformatting it from disk management, right click on the start menu, click disk management, delete the partitions or anything that's on the SSD, and just create one blank one, NTFS, default everything else, and see what happens
Gabriel.O#1663: I wil try |
Gabriel.O#1663: will*
read bio/description#8459: @Tech Helper Hey guys, is this 1156 PC worth it? it's 18,26 GBP, has 2x2 gb of ram, some cheap pentium i'd replace, some shit gpu i'd replace and a nice 250 gb hdd, it also has a cool case and a chieftec psu i think so it seems nice I guess? https://allegro.pl/oferta/komputer-2x2-80-250hd-4gb-win7-mysz-klaw-kable-9174959550
read bio/description#8459: Even if it isn't I have a nice delta psu laying around
read bio/description#8459: But I ain't sure if it's a bit overpriced
TheGeekster#8508: For what? aWhat do you want it for? That's a damn ancient computer
read bio/description#8459: Light gaming, day to day use.. etc. I would upgrade the cpu to an i5 750 and the gpu to a GTX 650, I'd also get 8 gb of ram for it.
TheGeekster#8508: I mean for £20... it would boot, but not much beyond that, also it's running windows 7
read bio/description#8459: I'd install win10 duh.
read bio/description#8459: Oh and I'd drop an ssd in there too, cuz i have one in my current laptop
read bio/description#8459: From what I counted it fits in my budget nicely.
TheGeekster#8508: Then looks alright, powersupply is something you may wanna look at too though
read bio/description#8459: @TheGeekster chieftec is reputable, but i do have a 350w delta laying around just in case
Gabriel.O#1663: Update : I can’t format the Drive , I will reinstall windows to see if that helps
tdp2612#3835: can you try format it in a different pc
read bio/description#8459: @Tech Helper What's is a similiarly priced alternative to an HD 7770 that performs about the same? doesn't matter if nvidia or amd |
Budget#8265: @read bio/description IF you keep pinging for questions that you have already asked before i am banning you from this role @read bio/description
read bio/description#8459: i havent asked about this tho
read bio/description#8459: but k
Budget#8265: You asked the other day
Budget#8265: the only response was GTX650
Budget#8265: and we said the GTX650 is cheaper but the HD7770 is better
read bio/description#8459: i asked whats better gtx 650 or hd 7770 not about alternatives but k
TheGeekster#8508: Google is your friend, there's soooo manyyyyy results out there
read bio/description#8459: Is this good? https://www.olx.pl/oferta/plyta-glowna-dell-inspiron-620s-i3-2120-chlodzenie-CID99-IDEt66r.html#785273130f
BigPierogi#3368: /convert 60pln usd
Currency Converter Bot#4703: Invalid value for positional parameter at index 0 (<sourceAmount>): '60pln' is not a double
Currency Converter Bot#4703: Usage: convert [-hV] <sourceAmount> <sourceIsoCode> <targetIsoCode>
Converts one currency value to another.
<sourceAmount> Value of the currency to convert.
<sourceIsoCode> ISO code of the source currency. |
<targetIsoCode> ISO code of the target currency.
-h, --help Show this help message and exit.
-V, --version Print version information and exit.
BigPierogi#3368: /convert 60 pln usd
Currency Converter Bot#4703: USD 14.324621
BigPierogi#3368: seems ok
BigPierogi#3368: but its only sandy bridge upgrade path
BigPierogi#3368: so no ivy bridge
Deleted User#0000: sandy bridge while worst than ivy, usually delivers a better bang for the money
BigPierogi#3368: idk if it can do a 2500k or i7
BigPierogi#3368: if your planning on ugprading in the future
read bio/description#8459: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/700753054806442004/unknown.png
read bio/description#8459: This is what I found.
read bio/description#8459: Front panel connectors seem good right?
Deleted User#0000: if your mobo doesn't support oc maybe you should go for the i5 2500 |
Deleted User#0000: @read bio/description mobo?
BigPierogi#3368: scroll upp
BigPierogi#3368: its a dell inspiron 620s
read bio/description#8459: i dont have a mobo yet
read bio/description#8459: dell inspiron 620s yeah
read bio/description#8459: comes with an i3
Deleted User#0000: I'm not sure if I can recommend that mobo as some of them use a special form factor, the mobo on the image looks fine to me but I'm not sure if it will fit on a standar case
read bio/description#8459: the site I found says it's microATX (my case's size), pretty sure the later dells prebuilts are less prioprietary
Gabriel.O#1663: It's stuck on Formating , how long it takes to finish? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/700754581482766357/unknown.png
read bio/description#8459: did u choose quick formatting or slow
wiryfuture🦀#1706: my express app's middleware isn't working 😦 it's returning an undefined body
```js
// using default parser
app.use(express.json());
|
app.post("/api/authenticate", function (req, res) {
console.log("Request received for authentication of: " + req.body.username);
console.log(req.body);
res.send(req.body.username);
});
```
Gabriel.O#1663: quick
TheGeekster#8508: Did you *tick* quick formatting? 🤔 cuz that's normally done within a minute
TheGeekster#8508: if it's going slow, then something's up with the SSD
AhmedST#6627: Hi
Jam#0384: @AhmedST Just go with that 1060 unless you can find a 1650 SUPER for a slightly higher price
Budget#8265: @AhmedST ^
Jam#0384: Avoid the 1650 non-Super
Budget#8265: This
AhmedST#6627: Let me check |
Budget#8265: Just go with the 1060 you found imo, unless there is something that much better
Jam#0384: If it a 16xx is significantly more expensive, there is no point
Jam#0384: The 1060 is still a fine card for 1080p Med-High
Budget#8265: And he is in Bosnia
Jam#0384: And on eSports you can even do 144hz sometimes
Budget#8265: It does not have a good market
tdp2612#3835: like the 1060 3 is still gonna be bottlenecked by the 2320
tdp2612#3835: trust me, i know
Budget#8265: At 1080p yeah
tdp2612#3835: so moving up to something higher isnt really gonna make that much difference in a lot of games
Jam#0384: It won’t be the end of the world
JustinXenyx#8854: 1060 3GB imo is going to be a quick VRAM death
JustinXenyx#8854: won't last long at all
Jam#0384: Besides, a Sandy “i7” Xeon may be cheap
AhmedST#6627: I found 1650 super for 183 eurp |
AhmedST#6627: Uro
AhmedST#6627: Euro
tdp2612#3835: nah then
Jam#0384: Nahh
Jam#0384: Get the 1060
JustinXenyx#8854: i can bet that 1650S is new lol
AhmedST#6627: This Evga one
Jam#0384: 1060 will perform barely less
Jam#0384: So that’s a lot less you’re paying
AhmedST#6627: @JustinXenyxyes it is
JustinXenyx#8854: how much is that 1060 3GB now? @Jam @tdp2612
tdp2612#3835: 110 euro hes been offered
tdp2612#3835: by offered i mean he can buy it for that price
JustinXenyx#8854: Not worth it, not even for the bosnian market
JustinXenyx#8854: 110€ for a card you can practically through out in a year or so |
AhmedST#6627: He doesnt lower
Budget#8265: How much is that card new?
Budget#8265: On like Ali or something
tdp2612#3835: why would he throw it out in a year
Budget#8265: ^
Budget#8265: Also its not like the 1060 is a bad card
Budget#8265: he wants to play CSGO, Fortnite, etc...]
JustinXenyx#8854: m8, the card is barely holding on with 3GB of VRAM, i wouldn't expect it to last long @tdp2612
AhmedST#6627: I can send you the link of the market
tdp2612#3835: its gonna last a couple years minimum, if he wanted to crank the settings up hed have more than a 2nd gen i5
Budget#8265: He wants to play older titles anyways
AhmedST#6627: Check price yourself
Budget#8265: In Bosnia
Budget#8265: The 1060 is fine
AhmedST#6627: Yes |
AhmedST#6627: I will send you my market
Budget#8265: Alrighty
AhmedST#6627: Local selling site
TheGeekster#8508: *ffs* you need to take into account what people ARE ACTUALLY DOING, before screaming about vram, 3gb is more than enough in the modern world, unless you want to play *fat* games like GTA, 1060 3gb is a commonly used card, that works happily on 99% of games
AhmedST#6627: https://www.olx.ba/
TheGeekster#8508: vram is a selling point more than a practical thing now
Budget#8265: 3GB of VRAM with Pascal memory compression
AhmedST#6627: 1 euro is 2 KM
Budget#8265: It's gonna last him fine for what he wanna do
JustinXenyx#8854: > *ffs* you need to take into account what people ARE ACTUALLY DOING, before screaming about vram, 3gb is more than enough in the modern world, unless you want to play *fat* games like GTA, 1060 3gb is a commonly used card, that works happily on 99% of games
Well what else would i assume? If nobody says nothing i have to assume something, right?
AhmedST#6627: Check prices for yourself
TheGeekster#8508: then ask
TheGeekster#8508: best reply to a broad question is a question asking them to narrow it down
Budget#8265: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000935646180.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.54cb295dmqgZIO&algo_pvid=6f85ff8b-e54f-4ab9-91d1-c758de9b6420&algo_expid=6f85ff8b-e54f-4ab9-91d1-c758de9b6420-0&btsid=0ab6f82115871451746096676e2f30&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_ |
Budget#8265: How is shipping on this in Bosnia
Budget#8265: It ships worlwide
AhmedST#6627: Let me check
Budget#8265: or this
Budget#8265: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000127753847.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.54cb295dmqgZIO&algo_pvid=6f85ff8b-e54f-4ab9-91d1-c758de9b6420&algo_expid=6f85ff8b-e54f-4ab9-91d1-c758de9b6420-2&btsid=0ab6f82115871451746096676e2f30&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_
JustinXenyx#8854: Okay a 960 for 90 USD is a rip off alright :haha:
Budget#8265: Yeah second one i posted is better
JustinXenyx#8854: @AhmedST So, what do you even want to do with your PC?
Budget#8265: Remember we're talking Bosnian Prices
Budget#8265: He wants to play CSGO, Fortnite, etc...
Budget#8265: Older basic titles
AhmedST#6627: Shipping will be 30$
Budget#8265: So not worth it
JustinXenyx#8854: fuck no then, that's basically the same price as that 1060
Budget#8265: Just go 1060 at this point really |
AhmedST#6627: And new install of windows
Budget#8265: If you get an SSD
AhmedST#6627: I can find one for 25€
Budget#8265: Id reinstall or move my OS to it yeah
JustinXenyx#8854: Realistically, i still have my worries with the 3GB 1060, but if he really doesn't want to do newer-ish titles it should still last 2 years or so
Budget#8265: It'll last him longer than that honestly
Budget#8265: The GTX660 is still kicking
AhmedST#6627: Can 3 gb 1060 play fortnite at high?
Budget#8265: yes
JustinXenyx#8854: lol no it's not, mine is ded @Budget
Budget#8265: Like dead dead
Budget#8265: or like you dont wanna game at 720p dead
JustinXenyx#8854: so dead i replaced with a 1080Ti dead
AhmedST#6627: With i5 2320?
Budget#8265: yes |
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah it should be able to pull that off @AhmedST
AhmedST#6627: Then i will go for it
AhmedST#6627: Will i need to upgrade my cheap ram
Budget#8265: Nah you're alright
Budget#8265: Maybe look at 16GB but for now you cool
AhmedST#6627: Ok
JustinXenyx#8854: @Budget To put it simply: the card was getting more and more unstable by the day, i replaced it with a loaner 1080Ti and when i wanted to test if it was still working it wouldn't do shit
JustinXenyx#8854: then i bought that loaner 1080Ti and didn't care anymore lmao
Budget#8265: I mean its not a powerful card but it can do like modern stuff okay-ish at HD Ready Resolutions
Budget#8265: Wouldnt reccomend GTX600 Series really though
AhmedST#6627: Is a 750 ti basically a refresh of 660?
JustinXenyx#8854: Hell no
Budget#8265: ^
Lady Mipha#0611: ^^
Budget#8265: New architecture and stuff |
JustinXenyx#8854: 750Ti is massively different from a 660
AhmedST#6627: I know that gtx 760 ti is basically a gtx 670 shares same amount of cuda cores and that stuff
SuSSudio#2688: 750 ti was maxwell, 9xx gen
AhmedST#6627: 760 ti is used for OEMs
AhmedST#6627: Like alieware
AhmedST#6627: Alienware*
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah but to be quite frank, Kepler is dead as fuck in general
JustinXenyx#8854: It really lacks driver optimization which is desperately needs
Budget#8265: I mean the GTX650 is a cheap NVENC Card that anyone can get
Budget#8265: But yeah the HD7770 can do VCE and is the same price
Budget#8265: I need to do a HD7770 revisit
Budget#8265: May order one
AhmedST#6627: 7000 series still has driver updates or?
Budget#8265: Still gets updates yes
Budget#8265: Driver updates with Optimisations too |
JustinXenyx#8854: The modern GCN 7000 cards still get really good updates
Budget#8265: ^
AhmedST#6627: Hd 7970 is i think still decent
JustinXenyx#8854: 7970 still can hold up with a 1050Ti
JustinXenyx#8854: But they get overpriced a lot from what i can find
AhmedST#6627: HD 7990....
AhmedST#6627: HD 7990+FX 9590 rip power consumption
Racey#8574: ~~I walk into here and see **GTX 660 is still kicking**~~
TheFifthAce#4128: 660 ti was reccomended specs for like a solid few years
Budget#8265: R9 285 is usually the same price
Budget#8265: and a better buy imo, ye 2GB of VRAM but Tonga Memory Compression is much better
Racey#8574: the 2 GB VRAM is really painful to try and game with today
Racey#8574: and it just isn't fast enough to run the games at 60 FPS even on 720p lowest
Alcyone#2233: 285 also has freesync, which you wont get on any nvidia prior to 10 series
Budget#8265: ^ |
Budget#8265: Also some of the best AMD VCE Support
Budget#8265: Its the same as the AMD Fury
CaptainFlanger#2563: (did someone mentioned 1060 3 GB?)
CaptainFlanger#2563: My personal opinion using this thing: It's fine.
Deleted User#0000: I'm still using an hd 7790 to this day
Deleted User#0000: it's a GCN 2.0 Card though, so I really don't know why amd decided to call it that way
wiryfuture🦀#1706: wow https://youtu.be/2XLZ4Z8LpEE
wiryfuture🦀#1706: that's so cool
read bio/description#8459: Hey, would there be any problems with the front panel connectors on this board? I have 4 cables, only sure about 1 - HDD Led, Power Led, Power Switch and USB + SD Reader (this goes into the usb connector, thats what I'm sure about)
read bio/description#8459: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/700811819073404958/unknown.png
TheGeekster#8508: What motherboard is it?
read bio/description#8459: From a Dell Inspiron 620s
TheGeekster#8508: then no, that's a proprietary connector that probably won't work properly with normal cases
Gabriel.O#1663: @TheGeekster my psu was acting weird when I tried to restart .... I’m glad that I took the gpu out and booted on the integrated graphics , because 5 mins later my psu blew up , gg
read bio/description#8459: I mean, I should be able to at least get the Power Switch in there somehow right? |
JustinXenyx#8854: Actually, taking a closer look at it it's just a normal pinblock like in a lot of regular PC boards @TheGeekster https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/700813898676174858/GDG8Ya1.png
JustinXenyx#8854: You should be able to identify what the power pins are by testing with the original case (if you have that)
read bio/description#8459: The pins arent talked about or anything in the manuals
read bio/description#8459: Nope.
Budget#8265: I mean Dell have uses standard pin outs
Budget#8265: The board in this 775 thing was
read bio/description#8459: Yeah, that's how I'm sure it's possible.
TheGeekster#8508: huh i stand corrected
read bio/description#8459: I just wanna be sure where to plug the connector, I don't wanna burn anything or whatever.
tdp2612#3835: so ive got an adjustable exhaust fan, and while folding my cpu was at like 65
tdp2612#3835: i flicked the fan from low to high, and its dropped 10 degrees and the top of the case has gone from hot to actually cold to touch
read bio/description#8459: Is there a way to check the front panel connectors with a tool like this? (idk the english name for it) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/700815487717605437/ut125_multimetr_1.png
JustinXenyx#8854: A multimeter won't help you with that lol
BigPierogi#3368: you also could just
BigPierogi#3368: short 2 pins |
BigPierogi#3368: if the pc turns on
read bio/description#8459: @BigPierogi thing is idk which ones
BigPierogi#3368: then its that power button
read bio/description#8459: what if burn something
BigPierogi#3368: so try
JustinXenyx#8854: No that's dumb as fuck my dude @BigPierogi
JustinXenyx#8854: Some pins have power on them, imagine you just shorting LED power to ground
BigPierogi#3368: also
BigPierogi#3368: doesnt the board say
read bio/description#8459: i could short wrong pins
BigPierogi#3368: like under the pins
read bio/description#8459: no
BigPierogi#3368: there should be a pinnout
JustinXenyx#8854: @BigPierogi Board doesn't say at all
read bio/description#8459: it only says LEDH1 |
BigPierogi#3368: bruy
JustinXenyx#8854: Assuming this is correct, the power pins should be right to the left where it says LED H1 under those 4 pins @read bio/description https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/700815997728456734/620NEWFP1.png
JustinXenyx#8854: I have no fucking idea why there is a jumper from 9 to 5 though
BigPierogi#3368: justin
read bio/description#8459: thats for the 620 and this one is 620s
BigPierogi#3368: are you sure
read bio/description#8459: this is the 620 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/700816223654641794/unknown.png
read bio/description#8459: this is the 620s https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/545181464363401216/700811819073404958/unknown.png
JustinXenyx#8854: legit the exact same board
BigPierogi#3368: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/700816331192139796/unknown.png
read bio/description#8459: they look the same lol
BigPierogi#3368: i also found this
read bio/description#8459: where did u find that
BigPierogi#3368: dell forum
read bio/description#8459: show me |
BigPierogi#3368: https://www.dell.com/community/Desktops-General-Read-Only/Need-help-with-Inspiron-620-Motherboard-power-reset-led-pin/td-p/4104504
JustinXenyx#8854: Thing is, after referencing with the genuine power button from dell that makes no fucking sense @BigPierogi
read bio/description#8459: some guy said this The other poster's diagram has too many pins and the positions are wrong. THIS IS A GUESS Based on the pictures below. You will have to reverse engineer the part to find out exactly. Removing the LED's allows you to visually see the polarity.
JustinXenyx#8854: It also literally says that the other dude is wrong
JustinXenyx#8854: and then references the exact things i did lmao
read bio/description#8459: I asked the seller about it, he didn't see the message yet nor did he reply.
read bio/description#8459: wait that dude defended himself
read bio/description#8459: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/700817277167075439/unknown.png
read bio/description#8459: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/700817318846136350/unknown.png
JustinXenyx#8854: no he stated that he is wrong aswell lmao
read bio/description#8459: oh then someone replied vostro 620 isnt inspiron 620 even tho he said inspiron not vostro
read bio/description#8459: but he said he did it somehow
JustinXenyx#8854: So, power button is pin 6 and 5 and you need a jumper running from 5 to 9
read bio/description#8459: why do you need a jumper
JustinXenyx#8854: Apparently it doesn't turn on if you don't have the jumper |
read bio/description#8459: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/700817679623389345/unknown.png
read bio/description#8459: found the pic of the cable @JustinXenyx
read bio/description#8459: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/700818473533833256/unknown.png
read bio/description#8459: doubt its gonna help but that does seem like a jumper i guess
read bio/description#8459: heres the full thread, he got it to work https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/dell-inspiron-620s-mobo-reuse.1376315/
read bio/description#8459: Maybe this could help? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/700818879961890836/s-l1600.png
JustinXenyx#8854: I've referenced both
JustinXenyx#8854: Power Button pins line up and the jumper does too
read bio/description#8459: So are you able to make a rough sketch of how it would look like?
read bio/description#8459: @JustinXenyx https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/700819738867269642/unknown.png
read bio/description#8459: which ones to connect etc
JustinXenyx#8854: pin 1 starts at the top left
JustinXenyx#8854: pin 10 is the blank one
JustinXenyx#8854: That puts pin 5 and 6 right in the middle
read bio/description#8459: so its like |
1 2
3 4
etc?
JustinXenyx#8854: correct
read bio/description#8459: ok, which pins to connect which pins to short? cables: hdd led, power led, power sw
read bio/description#8459: i mean jump*
read bio/description#8459: i think positive is on the left and negative on the right
JustinXenyx#8854: Pins 1 and 3 are HDD LED, 2 and 4 are PWR LED and then 5 and 6 are for the power button, with a jumper from 5 to 9 required
read bio/description#8459: so how am i supposed to connect the power sw if 5 is gonna be taken by the jumper?
JustinXenyx#8854: You need to make one of those double wire thingies
JustinXenyx#8854: You need to split pin 5 into 2 wires
JustinXenyx#8854: One for the actual button and then one for the jumper
read bio/description#8459: okay, i could ask my bro if he'd be able to do such things.
read bio/description#8459: @JustinXenyx something like this? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/700820823128145990/unknown.png
JustinXenyx#8854: Exactly like that |
read bio/description#8459: imma ask my bro if he could do that, if yes then im getting the board
read bio/description#8459: 1 more thing
read bio/description#8459: @JustinXenyx in 1 3 and 2 4 which one is positive and which one is negative
JustinXenyx#8854: That you can check with a multimeter
JustinXenyx#8854: because i have no fucking clue :haha:
read bio/description#8459: bruh k
TheGeekster#8508: *i feel like i've touched pins multiple times trying to boot a motherboard with absolutely 0 repercussions but hey ho*
read bio/description#8459: @JustinXenyx whats the jumper for though?
JustinXenyx#8854: Realistically, i couldn't know unless i had the board
read bio/description#8459: hmm
JustinXenyx#8854: People are saying the board doesn't turn on without the jumper
read bio/description#8459: also i have noticed something
read bio/description#8459: the cable i found on ebay has 12 pins connectors (only some have cables) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/700822214693617737/s-l1600.png
read bio/description#8459: but the motherboard has 16?
read bio/description#8459: 15* 10 is not there |
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah, another thing only dell really can answer
read bio/description#8459: okay..
read bio/description#8459: 1 more thing
read bio/description#8459: tf is this? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/700822502271877270/unknown.png
read bio/description#8459: its not in the manual
JustinXenyx#8854: proprietary something something
read bio/description#8459: :Thonking:
JustinXenyx#8854: again, one of those things we have no fucking idea unless dell were to tell us
read bio/description#8459: dell is dell tho
read bio/description#8459: okay, unless i find a better deal, im gettin this board, thanks for helpin
read bio/description#8459: you deserve that literally a legend role
Ouroboros#7526: I have an old 2007 laptop, should I make it alive again? I mean it has windows 7 but that's taking 500mb out of 1gb ram, but 1-6% cpu any ideas? I might just keep it on all night folding :p
TheGeekster#8508: plz don't fold on that
TheGeekster#8508: @Ouroboros install weird and wacky linux distro's
JustinXenyx#8854: @Ouroboros It's going to do more harm than good |
JustinXenyx#8854: People that fold usually have pretty decent hardware
JustinXenyx#8854: Because if you fold with shit hardware you just take ages to complete something someone else would be able to do in much less time
Sentient Potato#6003: ^
JustinXenyx#8854: AKA even though you think you're doing good, you're just taking away folding jobs from the people with good hardware by making them run on your shitty old laptop
Ouroboros#7526: Ah
Ouroboros#7526: Alright
Ouroboros#7526: I'm gonna install lubuntu on it tommorow
Deleted User#0000: i've tried lubuntu in laptops from that era, it works fine
Deleted User#0000: specially with at least 2gb of ram, but 1gig should do
Alcyone#2233: I want to get an msata ssd for a desktop board I have. Anyone have an opinion on these nand chips? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/700882383578333263/unknown.png
Alcyone#2233: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/700882439957905488/unknown.png
ShidoPixel#4650: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fR9HQq rate my build
AhmedST#6627: In my opinion a pretty decent rig
Gabriel.O#1663: What board works the best with a r5 1600? ( I found a b450m aorus from gigabyte cheap new ) .
Gabriel.O#1663: My old pc blew up and now I’m looking for parts |
TheGeekster#8508: tbh motherboards will generally either work, or not work, depends on your budget, case size and expandability requirements
DarknessFalls229#2286: just dont do something stupid liek combining an R9 3950X with an A320 Chipset. Also lookout with new CPUs and old motherboards as some motherboards need a bios update. But with an R5 1600 any chipset should be fine, but B450 is pretty good
Slyse#2578: Hi Guys!
Problem with a Z370H + 8700k, started yesterday. Computer froze, then restarted. Went into "Preparing automatic repair" screen, got stuck there. Tried to restart it but it keeps freezing. Went into BIOS, stays there for a good 5-10sec, then freezes up completely.
Slyse#2578: I reset the CMOS, reseated the CPU, tried with 1 stick of RAM instead of 2, disconnected everything and tried reconnecting one at a time, no changes
Slyse#2578: Mobo has a red CPU-light on it
Slyse#2578: do you think it's a broken Motherboard or a broken CPU?
TheGeekster#8508: What motherboard is it? You'll probably find out what the red cpu light means in the manual for your motherboard, it's rare for a CPU to just stop working or spontaneously develop a fault though
Slyse#2578: Z370-H, I found the manual online and it says that the constant red light points to a CPU error.
Slyse#2578: but if the cpu was messed up, would it even boot at all?
TheGeekster#8508: every time you connect it up to power, the motherboard points to CPU? If so... have you got access to a CPU to swap out and try?
Slyse#2578: unfortunately no, I thought about this too but I mainly work with older cpu's, from the 3000-series
Slyse#2578: my wife's computer is worth about 10 times compared to my rig 😄
Slyse#2578: I'll have to check if I can find a replacement for cheap, thanks for the help! |
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