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Charlie Foxtrot#9831: WTF
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://youtu.be/TRMwQAftRzA
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: The M2000M is Type A as well
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: So it is safe to assume that the G2 only supports Type A
mi3night#2562: @Tinybox that’s more complicated than installing a mxm gpu into a iMac lmfao
mi3night#2562: So eh
mi3night#2562: If it’s too much hassle just get the acer then
Tinybox#9112: @Charlie Foxtrot ive seen g2s listed with mxm b cards, only the 17inch supports both
Tinybox#9112: The 15inch is mxm a
Tinybox#9112: @mi3night that acer is alr sold
mi3night#2562: @Tinybox or you can sell the rx480 mobile and get a nvidia card
Tinybox#9112: Perhaps
wiryfuture🦀#1706: > Hey guys does anybody know the stablest driver version for an r9 280x?
@D.D.M on my 7950 I just use the latest
wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/764928691327205426/unknown.png |
MythologicalZ#3752: 20.4.2 and 20.2.2 are also good options
wiryfuture🦀#1706: honestly, I haven't had any issues
wiryfuture🦀#1706: the only issue i've had is my gpu overheating but that was during the summer
wiryfuture🦀#1706: and i fixed that with a custom fan curve and undervolt in afterburner
D.D.M#8226: Well the problem with it is that most of the games i play just crash the whole pc and just a second before it crashes the colours just go nuts and finally displaying a vertical pattern of lines with different colours (ex. playing fall guys displays a pink screen and cs go on dust displays welll whatever dust looks like)
D.D.M#8226: Also one of the fans actually wasn't spinning very fast and overheated in some games
D.D.M#8226: I used some lubricant on the fan and it kept cool
D.D.M#8226: Stressing it for 15 mins with kombuster msi furmark didn't crash it
wiryfuture🦀#1706: > Also one of the fans actually wasn't spinning very fast and overheated in some games
@D.D.M slap a fan curve with afterburner on it
wiryfuture🦀#1706: my fan curve was really weird and didn't kick in reasonably at all until it was in the 70s so it would overheat way too quickly
D.D.M#8226: Yes i did but my one of my friends said i can also add some oil or something idk what it isin english and that helped
Xbox 360 1953#2640: thoughts on i3 10100f VS r3 3100?
Muse#0557: 10100f is a bit better of a cpu but leaves you with no really upgrade path
Muse#0557: Pairing the 3100 with a b550 allows you to OC it and anything you want to upgrade to |
Muse#0557: A Z board is far too expensive to pair it with a 10100f
DarknessFalls229#2286: Also locked ram on lower tier boards
Alcyone#2233: I dont think 10th gen or zen2 have any different upgrade path. Ryzen 5000 is probably the final gen for am4, and the cpus aren't any cheaper anymore.
Alcyone#2233: Ryzen is more efficient though, and decent B550 are bit cheaper than z490
mi3night#2562: @Muse muse wdym 1200 and am4 have the same upgrade path
mi3night#2562: As zen4 will be am5
mi3night#2562: Or am4+
mi3night#2562: Amd promised am4 upgrade path until 2020
mi3night#2562: Sooo next year’s cpus gonna be on another socket
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Intel is moving to 1700, right?
mi3night#2562: After tiger lake
mi3night#2562: Yes
Xbox 360 1953#2640: das a lot of pins
Alcyone#2233: yes 12th gen is lga 1700
Muse#0557: b550 is cheaper than z490 |
mi3night#2562: Ok
mi3night#2562: Good
Alcyone#2233: yeah it would probably cost ~$40 more maybe for an entire build if you went with a budget b550 like vdh wifi
Muse#0557: therefore it is cheaper to get an overclockable system with AM4
Muse#0557: and you can overclock your entry level cpu too
mi3night#2562: If it’s entry it makes sense
mi3night#2562: However 10600k is $250 rn
mi3night#2562: And 5600x is $300
mi3night#2562: So they cost the same
Muse#0557: thats too narrow
Muse#0557: you cant
Muse#0557: cherry pick like that
Muse#0557: there is the rest of the product line
mi3night#2562: 3600 is $200 and 10400f is $140
Alcyone#2233: I checked 3600+b550 vdh and 10600K+ z490 a-pro |
Alcyone#2233: $310 vs $343
Muse#0557: but the point isnt 3600 vs 10600k
Muse#0557: its 3100 vs 10100f
mi3night#2562: 3600 is $200 and 10600k is $250
Muse#0557: if youre upgrading youre probably going to go to a Ryzen/i7 lets be honest
Muse#0557: midnight you are legitmately becoming annoying to talk to
mi3night#2562: Good
Muse#0557: no not good
Xbox 360 1953#2640: are you guys across the pond getting any 3300x?
Muse#0557: youre being a waste of time
Muse#0557: the 3300x isnt really stocked is it?
mi3night#2562: 3300x is like
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I have not seen it at all over here since july
mi3night#2562: Non existent
Alcyone#2233: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/765248639773573150/unknown.png |
Muse#0557: its a nice little cpu but it has no good stock
Alcyone#2233: 3100 oos in us rn too
Muse#0557: and doesnt sit at retail
Muse#0557: rumors are that they havent made any more of them
mi3night#2562: Alcyone imagine me getting lga1700 with u
mi3night#2562: :woag:
Xbox 360 1953#2640: fantastic
Alcyone#2233: I might not even upgrade then
Muse#0557: my money is that we will get some sort of 3000af chips
mi3night#2562: Cuz u be on lga1200
Muse#0557: ngl
Alcyone#2233: I use a cpu until its the limiting factor in my system
Alcyone#2233: I am on 1151
Alcyone#2233: z370
Muse#0557: ngl even a 8700k |
Muse#0557: still isnt limiting
mi3night#2562: 8700k beats 3600 if u overclock it
Muse#0557: genuinely
Muse#0557: im fucking done
Muse#0557: youre so dense
mi3night#2562: Ok
Muse#0557: seriously its just trolling at this point
Muse#0557: you know youre wrong
mi3night#2562: @Alcyone am I trolling
Alcyone#2233: i dunno
mi3night#2562: 8700k doesn’t beat 3600 when overclocked?
Muse#0557: its such a stupid thing to say
Muse#0557: and its constant
Alcyone#2233: 8700k probably matches it not overclocked
Muse#0557: thats clearly such a flawed arguement |
Muse#0557: you constantly compare intel cpus overclocked like mad to bone stock amd
Alcyone#2233: *well you can't really overclock 7nm zen anyways*
Alcyone#2233: intel hardly anymore too
mi3night#2562: I mean intel turbos to 5ghz
Alcyone#2233: people be like "I got that 5hjz all core oc"
Alcyone#2233: stock turbo is like 4.8 or 4.9 😆
mi3night#2562: Alcyone
mi3night#2562: Am I dense
mi3night#2562: Or it’s just muse
Alcyone#2233: I think you need to work on your debating skills
mi3night#2562: Sad
mi3night#2562: !
Alcyone#2233: tbh all the enthusiast cpus are about the same rn core for core
Alcyone#2233: unless you have the latest top tier gpu and high refresh
mi3night#2562: I mean ! 8700k was going against 1700x when it released |
Alcyone#2233: 8700k is good
FantaStick#8008: *what is going on*
Alcyone#2233: but you have to cut it open and void warranty to get them 5+ghz oc on air
mi3night#2562: Just muse being muse @FantaStick
mi3night#2562: I mean alcyone
Alcyone#2233: not such a big deal now that they are used
Muse#0557: dont make out everyone else is the problem mate
mi3night#2562: How do they know if u overclocked to 5ghz
FantaStick#8008: I know somebody whos got a 8700k that did 5.4 out of the box on water
mi3night#2562: Ohhhh
Alcyone#2233: you have to delid it and use liquid metal to tame the temps
Alcyone#2233: its hard to hide that you removed and replaced the ihs
Muse#0557: you compare apples to oranges and act like youve won some debate
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Ben sharpie moment
Muse#0557: its honestly infuriating |
BigPierogi#3368: what the fuck is going on here
mi3night#2562: 3600 matches 8700k stock
mi3night#2562: Right
Alcyone#2233: thats why 10600k is a good option. its soldered and you can get the $20 oc protection plan
FantaStick#8008: 20$ oc protection plan???
FantaStick#8008: What
Alcyone#2233: just yeet it to death if you want, intel will send you another cpu or a full refund no questions asked except confirming the cpu is damaged/dead
FantaStick#8008: Wack
FantaStick#8008: 10600k here we come
kotr#5588: uh oh https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/765251447943331890/unknown.png
mi3night#2562: Tbf
Alcyone#2233: https://tuningplan.intel.com/
FantaStick#8008: 5.6 ghz on water or bust
mi3night#2562: I would’ve gotten a 10700k if I’m building a pc rn
kotr#5588: bust |
kotr#5588: probably
FantaStick#8008: I've seen 5.5 so far
Alcyone#2233: i bought that for the 8086k I won, it broke, intel sent me a $425 check because they had no 8086k for rma
FantaStick#8008: Wonder if anyone has gotten any luckier
kotr#5588: im doing fine w/ my 8700k i7
kotr#5588: lol
mi3night#2562: The 10700k is still gonna worth $325 even after 2 years
mi3night#2562: Right
Alcyone#2233: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/765251719499350016/unknown.png
Alcyone#2233: this cpu is not very good, my 8086k did 5.3 on air with safe volts
FantaStick#8008: Nice
Alcyone#2233: this runs 5.1 max, the heat is too much for p95 at 1.4+
FantaStick#8008: No avx offset right
Alcyone#2233: never
FantaStick#8008: Cause avx is cheating |
FantaStick#8008: Good
FantaStick#8008: I like your gusto kid
mi3night#2562: Alcyone is the lack of hyper threading sad
kotr#5588: Gaming. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/765252045112344627/unknown.png
Alcyone#2233: I dont notice any difference between the 6c/12t i7 I used to have or the 8c8t I have now
mi3night#2562: I mean what’s the most intensive thing you do
Alcyone#2233: it was shit value though, would not have gotten it if it wasnt also free
mi3night#2562: The intel upgrade plan
kotr#5588: wait
can't you harvest the HDD out of XBOX 360 expansion drives?
Alcyone#2233: yes, they are normal 2.5 hdd
kotr#5588: ahhh
kotr#5588: ok
Alcyone#2233: slow crappy ones though, best used for archival or media storage
kotr#5588: hm |
kotr#5588: wonder if i can rip some games off of it
Alcyone#2233: I think I have a ps4 hdd in my pc rn
kotr#5588: i got some pretty nice ones
kotr#5588: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/765252701851353148/unknown.png
kotr#5588: HELP
kotr#5588: I MADE IT 4K
kotr#5588: LMAOO
kotr#5588: nevermind
kotr#5588: fixed it
mi3night#2562: Also the Xbox series X expansion card is fooking expensive mate
kotr#5588: really?
mi3night#2562: $220 for 1tb
kotr#5588: wtf
mi3night#2562: The console is $500
kotr#5588: thats overpriced |
kotr#5588: lmao
kotr#5588: at this point you could just get a WD 12tb for like 300cad
kotr#5588: i mean, it won't be the greatest
kotr#5588: but it'll sure run
Alcyone#2233: does series x have type c?
kotr#5588: hmmm
kotr#5588: it probably does
kotr#5588: actually
kotr#5588: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/765253574660718629/unknown.png
kotr#5588: yeah
kotr#5588: it has them
Alcyone#2233: hwunboxed tested that samsung t5 external and it was loading games just as fast as a sata ssd
kotr#5588: epic
kotr#5588: ig
kotr#5588: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/765253787077181490/unknown.png |
kotr#5588: oh pardon me
kotr#5588: it doesnt
kotr#5588: lol
mi3night#2562: If u buy a ps5 u get m.2 2280
mi3night#2562: Soooo
kotr#5588: well
kotr#5588: yeah
Alcyone#2233: is that an sd card slot under the ethernet?
Muse#0557: isnt it for the propriety cards?
kotr#5588: wtf
Alcyone#2233: i dunno
kotr#5588: i think it is
kotr#5588: actually
Alcyone#2233: I dont pay any attention to consoles really
Muse#0557: sd would be sloped on one edge |
kotr#5588: true
Muse#0557: and i doubt it would have tech that old lmao
kotr#5588: @Alcyone neither do i
Muse#0557: the 8th gen left such a sour taste in my mouth id rather have the freedom of a pc
Muse#0557: ngl
kotr#5588: https://i.imgur.com/3KVSrqX.png
dude, ill definitely trust xp with my info, it's such a secure os
Alcyone#2233: im no pcmr guy, just like phones I dont find it very interesting
mi3night#2562: That’s for the storage cards
kotr#5588: oh ok
kotr#5588: makes sense then
Muse#0557: tbf consoles arent supposed to be super intersting, they are just meant to play games.... its just that spec wars have flared up again just like who had the most bits back in the 90s
mi3night#2562: Just like PS3 and Xbox 360
kotr#5588: https://i.imgur.com/ftTw6oN.png
AAAAAAAAAAA |
Alcyone#2233: I might want to get down on some gran turismo 7
mi3night#2562: They’re pretty strong launch day but they’re weak af one year later
Muse#0557: gran turismo better be damn good after the nearly decade wait
Alcyone#2233: drift lobbies in GT6 were some of the most awesome times I have had with racing games
Muse#0557: no ps2 models
Alcyone#2233: sport was shit
kotr#5588: how do i uh
kotr#5588: use steam
kotr#5588: on xp sp3
Muse#0557: sport was 1 cup from a proper GT
Muse#0557: stretched into a whole shitty online game
mi3night#2562: Isn’t steam like
Alcyone#2233: I think steam dropped xp support this year
mi3night#2562: Not supported on xp anymore
mi3night#2562: Yeah |
kotr#5588: damn
Muse#0557: youd have to get an older version
kotr#5588: steam is racist
kotr#5588: where can i obtain an older version
mi3night#2562: Windowist
Alcyone#2233: there might be some hack but I don't really know
Muse#0557: Im hoping FM8 is also good
Alcyone#2233: I would get games on gog for xp machine and play them with no client
Muse#0557: 7 was lame
Muse#0557: felt souless
Muse#0557: all the xbone forzas did
mi3night#2562: Socket FM3
Muse#0557: 4 is still the best imo
mi3night#2562: Imagine
mi3night#2562: FM2 is gay |
mi3night#2562: We need fm3
Alcyone#2233: I wansnt as big of fan of forza, but the car customization was way better
Muse#0557: people thought am4 was gonna be fm3 for ages
Muse#0557: i remember that
kotr#5588: https://i.imgur.com/SkJiCbD.png
kotr#5588: Yes.
Alcyone#2233: FM3+ apus
Muse#0557: i can hear the "donks"
Alcyone#2233: socket just for the G series
Muse#0557: i feel like having a high end and low end socket is long dead
mi3night#2562: Yup with no upgrade path
Muse#0557: probably didnt even make them money
Alcyone#2233: I dont think so
kotr#5588: yeah
kotr#5588: no way i can play steam games |
kotr#5588: officially on xp
kotr#5588: ig
mi3night#2562: Alcyone what if
mi3night#2562: I get 5800x
Alcyone#2233: what I think is crazy is there is 3 mfgs making boards just for the w-3175x
Muse#0557: get a 5950x
Muse#0557: smh
mi3night#2562: Ima get 5960x
Muse#0557: honestly im glad and sad xeons are out of consumer space
Alcyone#2233: there must be 11 people with that cpu in the entire world
Muse#0557: we wont really get to repurpose old ones for killer budget builds anymore
Muse#0557: which blows
Budget#8265: @kotr What do you want to run on XP anyways
Muse#0557: Steam
Budget#8265: Steam does work |
kotr#5588: steam
Budget#8265: but you need a work around
Alcyone#2233: china will make gamer boards with old server chipsets
Budget#8265: Most games wont be happy with GPU passthrough on XP
Muse#0557: It wont be the same though alycone
kotr#5588: well
Budget#8265: as they lack DX9.0 and Prior specific compatability stuff
kotr#5588: true
Budget#8265: the work around is on Archive .org
mi3night#2562: Do Chinese 2066 boards exist
kotr#5588: ok
Budget#8265: probs
kotr#5588: ill grab that
Alcyone#2233: FSB is dead
Muse#0557: XP doesnt feel 19 years old ngl |
kotr#5588: xp feels so damn fast
kotr#5588: ill be honest
Muse#0557: its old enough to drink in civilised countries
kotr#5588: yeah
mi3night#2562: Time to check alliexpress
Muse#0557: i doubt they exist
Alcyone#2233: 5800x is gonna be good I bet
kotr#5588: didnt vista get discon'd before xp did
mi3night#2562: Probably better than 10700k
Alcyone#2233: ran cb at 5.1 on 9th gen which is the same as 7th-10th per core
Muse#0557: i dont get people who are upset about 5000 prices. like AMD should not be undercutting themselves if they have the faster product
Alcyone#2233: ~550 points 1 thread
Alcyone#2233: 5800x stock ~630
Muse#0557: wdym
kotr#5588: https://i.imgur.com/kKEoMj6.png |
xp sure has not aged well
mi3night#2562: I mean
mi3night#2562: 5800x is like 20fps more than 3700x but it’s $150 more
mi3night#2562: Most gamers rather use that $150 on a better gpu
Alcyone#2233: 5800x is faster than 10700k for sure, the unified cache is making up for the slow memory subsystem
Muse#0557: i think xp is surprisingly usable if you look at any other tech from 2001
Muse#0557: like
Muse#0557: bruh first gen ipod
Muse#0557: came out after xp
Muse#0557: lmfao
mi3night#2562: 5800x is for the gamers who have the best gpu like the 3080
mi3night#2562: But if ur going with a 5800x and 3060
mi3night#2562: Might as well spend that $150 towards a 3070
Muse#0557: i think anyone getting a 3060 is looking at a 5600x/11600k
kotr#5588: are my pc specs shit: |
i7-8700k
gtx 1060 (6gb msi edition)
liquid cooled
16 gb 3200 mhz ram
1tb m.2
4tb hdd
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/765257189275205652/originalipod_top.png
mi3night#2562: My friend was looking at a 2060 and a 3900x for gaming and I was like nooooooooo
Muse#0557: this is how thick a music player was when xp came out
kotr#5588: @Muse epic
Muse#0557: to play mp3s
Muse#0557: xp aged well
Muse#0557: imo
mi3night#2562: So I beat him up over the internet
kotr#5588: the original ipod is actually really nice |
Alcyone#2233: that pc is fine, just needs more gpu
Muse#0557: ipods are charming af
mi3night#2562: And made him get 9900k and 2060
mi3night#2562: :RadicalBroski:
Muse#0557: but like they are charming because theyre dated
mi3night#2562: Jk
kotr#5588: overclocked my gpu like crazy
kotr#5588: lol
kotr#5588: runs great tbh
mi3night#2562: I think 3600 and 3070 when it comes out
kotr#5588: i can run basically any modern game at mid to highest graphics
Alcyone#2233: im using a 290 rn because my 1070 died months ago and I didn't want to buy a new card until new stuff was out
kotr#5588: i just want frames tbh
kotr#5588: idfc about graphics
kotr#5588: tbh |
Alcyone#2233: glad I didnt get a 5700/x or 2070s right now
BigPierogi#3368: @Alcyone why not use a i5 650 and gt 1030
BigPierogi#3368: the ultimate combo
Muse#0557: if i upgrade my system itll probably be to like
Muse#0557: mobile i9
kotr#5588: oh god
Muse#0557: ngl
Muse#0557: try to live that life
kotr#5588: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/765257686458826792/unknown.png
kotr#5588: holy shit this is pain
Muse#0557: you heard of cutting?
Alcyone#2233: Im ready to get gpu with this new gen but not even looking at cpu uhntil the new socket is out on both sides
kotr#5588: should i get another 1060
Alcyone#2233: why
kotr#5588: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
kotr#5588: sli really isnt that good tbh
Alcyone#2233: if you only play games up to like 2015 sli will work good in some of them
kotr#5588: i play metro at max
kotr#5588: lol
Alcyone#2233: selling the 1060 and getting a better single gpu would be a better option
kotr#5588: ohok
kotr#5588: do you think my 750 watt could handle a better gpu
Alcyone#2233: im sure
kotr#5588: ok
kotr#5588: like how much better?
Alcyone#2233: I am running 180w cpu and a 350w bios mod 290 on a 750
kotr#5588: ok
kotr#5588: I KILLED XP
kotr#5588: ASDFSGSFH
kotr#5588: https://i.imgur.com/kouOfxx.gif |
vegetal#8870: install mypal browser on it
LaeMat#0420: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9rxjXb
is this a good sub $500 setup?
LaeMat#0420: a 650w because the person I’m making this for might want a GPU later down the line
JustinXenyx#8854: I feel the PSU is too expensive and that priorities are misplaced by directly buying a 480GB SSD and a 2TB HDD
JustinXenyx#8854: And even with a potential GPU upgrade 650W is going to be overkill for anything the system would be reasonably paired with
LaeMat#0420: true
LaeMat#0420: should I choose a 1TB HDD?
LaeMat#0420: and what 240GB SSD is good that has DRAM?
JustinXenyx#8854: I think i might skip an HDD at first entirely to be honest, it's easier to buy one later than allocating the more important building budget to one
LaeMat#0420: ok
LaeMat#0420: 450W?
LaeMat#0420: and maybe keep the SSD?
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah let's keep the 480GB SSD and stick with a 450-500W PSU
LaeMat#0420: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NwPNGq |
LaeMat#0420: There
JustinXenyx#8854: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JPsgsX lol we picked the same PSU
JustinXenyx#8854: I did go down with the board though
JustinXenyx#8854: as the Bazooka is more feature rich and cheaper
JustinXenyx#8854: going for ATX on a budget like this is just arbitrary and kind of stupid
LaeMat#0420: ah ok
JustinXenyx#8854: although i want to give a note of caution
JustinXenyx#8854: Zen 3 and RDNA2 are bound to release soon
JustinXenyx#8854: so used budget cards and new Zen 2 chips might drop in price pretty solidly
LaeMat#0420: the guy this is for would probably buy a GPU later on
JustinXenyx#8854: I'm more so mentioning this for CPU sakes
LaeMat#0420: and yeah I’ll change specs for CPU
LaeMat#0420: maybe the iGPU Ryzen 5 for zen 2
JustinXenyx#8854: you can always just chuck in a temporary used GPU like an R9 280 and buy an R5 3600 at a discount
JustinXenyx#8854: all depends on when the person you're making the list for plans to buy the parts |
LaeMat#0420: yes
JustinXenyx#8854: also, i think the bazooka max literally just went out of stock lmao @LaeMat
LaeMat#0420: yep
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Ye
Xbox 360 1953#2640: When ever I see it In stock it always goes out soon
Xbox 360 1953#2640: plc when
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @Zirax Can you send me the link to the eshop you mentioned?
Zirax#2873: Czc.cz
Zirax#2873: You can expect them to be like under 10% of the minimum price you can get those devices for
Zirax#2873: What would be an amd equivalent for the 1050?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: What do you need the laptop for?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: This is very important
Zirax#2873: School stuff and lighter gaming is the stuff I'm looking at though I don't intend to buy anything currently, I'm just looking at what would an ideal machine under that price point be rn
JustinXenyx#8854: > What would be an amd equivalent for the 1050?
@Zirax generally speaking, an RX560 would technically be the closest equivalent AMD has to a regular 1050 |
Zirax#2873: For that in a laptop you're either looking at a macbook which is a massive no or an $800 one
Zirax#2873: Which is also a lot more expensive than a 1050
Zirax#2873: And it only has a zen apu
Zirax#2873: Not even a zen+
JustinXenyx#8854: If you want to go AMD on the cheap, the Vega APU laptops are probably your best bet
Zirax#2873: Yeah, it seems like for the $600 budget you're looking at a 3500u without a dedicated gpu
Tinybox#9112: I've finally gathered enough info to tackle the mxm project
Tinybox#9112: Im off now.
The zbook I wanted to buy was sold so its time for me to look for a new option atm
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: ^This is exactly why buying used is a pain in the neck
Tinybox#9112: FEELSBADMAN
Tinybox#9112: I researched the zbook
Tinybox#9112: Found out it was a damn g1 and had mxm b anyway
Tinybox#9112: tried to tackle it
Tinybox#9112: Owner was like sold it 15min ago guy offered higher sry |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: > Yeah, it seems like for the $600 budget you're looking at a 3500u without a dedicated gpu
@Zirax Make sure it doesn't use soldered RAM and has 2 RAM slots
JustinXenyx#8854: And this people is why you should inform yourselves first and **then** try to make a purchasing decision
Zirax#2873: Ik
Zirax#2873: Soldered ram itself might not be that horrible, just gotta have the ability to do dual channel right?
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx I thought I was informed, ended up being a lot more I needed to know than I personally expected ngl
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Yeah no
JustinXenyx#8854: > Soldered ram itself might not be that horrible, just gotta have the ability to do dual channel right?
Yes but basically speaking, soldered RAM pretty much fucks you up with dual channel
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Soldered RAM is not great
JustinXenyx#8854: Cannot do any meaningful upgrades with soldered RAM
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: They could give you shit Ram
JustinXenyx#8854: Like 4 + 8GB won't work in dual channel
Tinybox#9112: Soldered ram :crome:
Zirax#2873: Tbh I wonder why there are like 0 cheaper laptops with dual channel out of the box |
JustinXenyx#8854: because soldered memory is cheaper
Tinybox#9112: Expense
Zirax#2873: Yet you see dual sodimm slot cheaper laptops
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah they'll "sacrifice"
Zirax#2873: Like you could price it a bit higher and advertise better performance
JustinXenyx#8854: Either soldered dual channel, or dual dimm single channel
JustinXenyx#8854: Some even do this weird hybrid shit where you have 4GB soldered and are supposed to add a 4GB stick later on
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Yep
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: If your laptop is ever damaged, you can take out the RAM sticks for later use or sell it
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: If the board is dead, then the soldered RAM is useless
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: > I thought I was informed, ended up being a lot more I needed to know than I personally expected ngl
@Tinybox Yep
Tinybox#9112: My thread will hopefully make it easier fo others
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: So are you still going to hunt for a deal?
Zirax#2873: Bruh somebody is selling a 1050 with a 7th gen i5 for like 70 dollars cheaper than average of other offers like that |
Zirax#2873: I wonder how much is wrong with that thing
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: 7th gen i5 ewwwww
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Is it a HQ or U version?
Zirax#2873: Hq
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Thank god
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Still you gotta look at it closely
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Something might be messed up
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Like missing screws
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Or broken keys/cables
Zirax#2873: You're still not gonna have issues with a cpu like that but ye, the price looks really weird
vegetal#8870: in what world would an oem pair a 1050 with a Q sku
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: K
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It was the norm in 2016/2017 for mid range laptops
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: 4c/4t CPU + 1050 for $800
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: > You're still not gonna have issues with a cpu like that but ye, the price looks really weird |
@Zirax Avoid anything with 2c/4t unless it's the newer gens
Zirax#2873: Well that's kinda obvious
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Also, something I should mention:
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Rules of thumb: Always get a 1080p screen or better, and always buy a machine a bit stronger than your current needs(trust me on this)
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: And get something with an SSD out of the box and 2 slots for RAM sticks and some sort of fan control - may not be available on cheaper laptops (not power control, don't confuse them, again, trust me on this)
Zirax#2873: Are like purely HDD based laptops even a thing rn lol
DarknessFalls229#2286: in the lower budget and older options yes
JustinXenyx#8854: > Rules of thumb: Always get a 1080p screen or better, and always buy a machine a bit stronger than your current needs(trust me on this)
Another worthy addition: Make sure the screen actually has decent brightness and avoid 768p because of weird scaling bullshit
JustinXenyx#8854: Even 1600x900 is fine with decent brightness, but 1360/66x768 should be avoided because of weird fucky scaling
Xbox 360 1953#2640: whats this weird scaling stuff? not something that ive noticed cuz ive not paid attention
JustinXenyx#8854: Programs just not fitting properly onto a screen with that resolution @Xbox 360 1953
JustinXenyx#8854: Like you'll have weird shit cut off etc
Xbox 360 1953#2640: now that you say that
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I remember now |
JustinXenyx#8854: It's painfully obvious on websites like YouTube
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: 900p and 768p are hopelessly outdated
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: If 1080p, get an IPS panel
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Or a really good TN panel
vegetal#8870: Hahaha 2017 macbook 1440x900
mi3night#2562: @Zirax what’s the Brand of the $600 3500u laptop
Zirax#2873: Don't remember all but I remember seeing Asus has one
Zirax#2873: Also lenovo, hp, the usual stuff
Zirax#2873: Oh interesting, there are laptops without an os? Kinda wack ngl
mi3night#2562: I mean I would rather save $50 or so and install my own os
mi3night#2562: Like provide my own $7 windows key
mi3night#2562: Also uh
mi3night#2562: How much are 4500u laptops in ur region
Zirax#2873: What's the usual price for a windows key?
mi3night#2562: Around $10 |
mi3night#2562: For home
DarknessFalls229#2286: well, i think the actual price for a windows key is above $100, but you can get a legit one from other sites for around $10 indeed
mi3night#2562: OEM license is like $30-40 but they let u save $50 cuz no labor
mi3night#2562: @Zirax check out 4500u laptops
Zirax#2873: Cheap 4500u laptops are like right at the limit of the budget
mi3night#2562: Bring it up
mi3night#2562: Which ones
Zirax#2873: IdeaPad 3-15ARE05
mi3night#2562: https://youtu.be/u6FYqMHhJNw
mi3night#2562: Here’s a review on it
Muse#0557: honestly bottom of the barrel keys have worked for me
Muse#0557: thats all i will say
Zirax#2873: I don't really know if that is worth it tho since if something will limit you on the 3500u it will be the igpu anyway
mi3night#2562: The 4500u is a zen2 cpu
Zirax#2873: For usual use cases |
Zirax#2873: Like yes it is a better cpu but I don't think that is really needed
mi3night#2562: 4500u is 6c6t I think
mi3night#2562: And 3500u is 4c4t
mi3night#2562: It’s much better
mi3night#2562: How much is the price difference
DarknessFalls229#2286: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/765609236813447198/unknown.png
DarknessFalls229#2286: 4c8t
mi3night#2562: Oh ok
Zirax#2873: Like around $150
mi3night#2562: So $750
mi3night#2562: How much storage and ram
Zirax#2873: No, the 3500u is actually around 400-450 for the cheapest
Zirax#2873: 8gb ram 512 gb ssd
mi3night#2562: Also how much is HP ENVY x360
mi3night#2562: I trust HP way more than Lenovo in terms of reliability |
Zirax#2873: That's a good amount above the budget for the cheapest one
Zirax#2873: Like around 100 bucks
mi3night#2562: So $500 for the x360?
mi3night#2562: With 4500u or 3500u
Zirax#2873: No, 700 for a 3500u
mi3night#2562: Jesus
Zirax#2873: Ye this is wack
mi3night#2562: What region do u live in again
Zirax#2873: And I'm going of an estimated conversion rate, the real conversion rate makes it even worse
Zirax#2873: Czech Republic
mi3night#2562: Can u get stuff imported from UK?
Zirax#2873: Prolly
mi3night#2562: Double check that
mi3night#2562: UK prices are still cheaper even after import fee and shipping
mi3night#2562: @Muse how much is a uk x360 4500u |
Zirax#2873: How exactly does one go about importing stuff btw?
Muse#0557: 800 for a R5
Zirax#2873: A 4500u is like 1000
Zirax#2873: Here
mi3night#2562: Don’t go over your budget
mi3night#2562: You will get buyers remorse that way
mi3night#2562: Envy x360 are fantastic laptops but they’re a bit high
mi3night#2562: The Lenovo is really good for what it is
LaeMat#0420: @JustinXenyx i was looking at bazooka, it's back in stock but $80 more
Xbox 360 1953#2640: hmm yes https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/765731869017767956/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: sounds like a virus
TheFifthAce#4128: @Deleted User have you turned it off and on again
TheFifthAce#4128: @Deleted User 吃沙子
TheFifthAce#4128: did this fix your issue @Deleted User
TheFifthAce#4128: unfortunate |
TheFifthAce#4128: idk how to troubleshoot this issue @Deleted User
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BigPierogi#3368: the fuck happened ehre
D.D.M#8226: Ehre
Xbox 360 1953#2640: 'ery noice
Muse#0557: exhoost fum
LaeMat#0420: no jerimiah exhost foome bad for helf
LaeMat#0420: shut up hammock
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D.D.M#8226: Rip
wiryfuture🦀#1706: one of my friends needs a ground loop isolator for his DAC, anyone got a recommendation? I have no idea what to look for
Zirax#2873: I just want to confirm my assumption about a currently not working old laptop. When I toggle power with no video card, display lights up (the backlight is turned on) and when I toggle power with a video card (not connected to the display) the display doesn't light up. If the video card seems completely fine, how likely is it that the psu board is too weak?
Zirax#2873: Also damn the at board form factor uses dual molex 15-48-0106 but this psu is connected by 16 pins
Zirax#2873: I guess the psu has some activity leds on it |
Zirax#2873: But I really don't know if I'd be able to use an external psu to test it
Kacpreusz#7656: I installed Windows 7 on my daily driver T420
Kacpreusz#7656: I like it much better than windows 10
Kacpreusz#7656: Look how fast it is https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/766422423243325500/received_-657667974.mp4
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/766430985596043274/video0.mov
Dogecode#7321: I think we can all agree that W7 is better
mi3night#2562: I prefer win10 over 7
Dogecode#7321: it's just not really safe to use anymore
mi3night#2562: Just me
mi3night#2562: I dislike win7 UI
mi3night#2562: I prefer 10 flat UI more
Dogecode#7321: yeah I think 10's ui is better
Dogecode#7321: but under the hood
Dogecode#7321: no way is 10 an improvement over 7
mi3night#2562: I mean idrc |
mi3night#2562: All it needs to do is work
mi3night#2562: Just my POV
Dogecode#7321: I never actually used the 7 aero theme much, usually had it on classic which looked nice and retro
Dogecode#7321: They dropped that in 10
Dogecode#7321: XP will always be the best windows though imo
BigPierogi#3368: gentoo
Lady Mipha#0611: XP
Racey#8574: I liked the look of Windows Aero10
Racey#8574: It combined flat and modern with Windows 7's aeroglass theme
Racey#8574: it's on update 1607's equivalent to LTSB so it's missing features
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Why do people keep saying that Windows 7 is not safe to use?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It's certainly much better than bug-ridden and telemetry-ridden W10
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Just employ common sense, use an adblocker and a normal account(as opposed to the Administrator one, the default type of account) and done
Racey#8574: to each their own I'd guess
Racey#8574: I don't have issues with Windows 10 so I decided to stick with it |
Racey#8574: also you can't really use Windows 7 on Ryzen
Racey#8574: unless I want to spend a fair bit of time tweaking it
Muse#0557: Because 7 is vulnerable to any new attacks and it won't get patched?
Muse#0557: I understand employing common sense which you should do regardless
Muse#0557: But it is less secure than 10
Muse#0557: Also its not worth the effort to get it running on anything post 2015
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Hmm
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: True that
JustinXenyx#8854: > Why do people keep saying that Windows 7 is not safe to use?
Because it isn't safer to use than a newer version that may have more bugs (Win7 has similar telemetry than 10 so that's not a point to make for just one of them) but still gets actual security patches
vegetal#8870: win10 isn't that buggy
D.D.M#8226: :Hahahahaha:
D.D.M#8226: :Hahahahaha:
D.D.M#8226: :Hahahahaha: :Hahahahaha: :Hahahahaha: :Hahahahaha:
OmegaChamp#6440: Bought sleeved cables and the 24 pin top came of will it matter https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/766663332211720212/image0.jpg |
DarknessFalls229#2286: unless it comes loose from its socket no
OmegaChamp#6440: No
OmegaChamp#6440: It’s the latch so will it just be less sucre
DarknessFalls229#2286: which is why i said what i said
Xbox 360 1953#2640: any of yall hear about the evga na?
Xbox 360 1953#2640: ba I mean
Gamefreak924#5901: Can someone give me live tech support over vc?
Gamefreak924#5901: I'm having trouble installing windows 7 on a drive. I know the drive works and I even used a live boot from linux to format the drive and convert to ntfs
Gamefreak924#5901: I'm using boot DVDs https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/766796681571860490/image0.jpg
"Cobs"#1150: is disk 0 the one you want?
"Cobs"#1150: just do
select disk 0
clean (warning, this will nuke the drive)
"Cobs"#1150: then go back to windows installer and install as normal
Gamefreak924#5901: It might be disk 1 |
"Cobs"#1150: disk 1 is unplugged
Gamefreak924#5901: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/766798161880547328/image0.jpg
"Cobs"#1150: thats why it says no media, usually refers to an sd card adapter, sd slot, disc drive, floppy, etc
Gamefreak924#5901: I have a hard drive plugged in and an external DVD drive
"Cobs"#1150: itll be that dvd drive then
Gamefreak924#5901: This is on a laptop by the way
Gamefreak924#5901: So is the hard drive just not showing up?
"Cobs"#1150: well
"Cobs"#1150: that disk 0 is odd
"Cobs"#1150: select disk 0
"Cobs"#1150: list partition
"Cobs"#1150: see what that says
Gamefreak924#5901: No partitions
"Cobs"#1150: hmm
"Cobs"#1150: check in bios |
"Cobs"#1150: make sure its detecting the drive at all
"Cobs"#1150: or at that same cmd
Gamefreak924#5901: I did. Everything should be working fine. And again, I did see the hard drive when using my Linux boot disc
"Cobs"#1150: type in "wmic diskdrive get Name, Manufacturer, Model, InterfaceType, MediaType, SerialNumber"
"Cobs"#1150: that'll see if windows can list any physical drives it sees
Gamefreak924#5901: While still in diskpart?
"Cobs"#1150: nah exit diskpart, but stay in cmd
Gamefreak924#5901: Invalid XML content
"Cobs"#1150: wtf
"Cobs"#1150: try just wmic diskdrive get Model
Gamefreak924#5901: Generic- Multi-card USB device
"Cobs"#1150: odd
"Cobs"#1150: not detecting the hard drive at all
"Cobs"#1150: Does the website for your laptop include any boot/f6 drivers by any chance?
"Cobs"#1150: might be that you need to load drivers for windows to identify the drive to install too |
Gamefreak924#5901: The laptop is an HP 4320t
Gamefreak924#5901: I can check
"Cobs"#1150: thin client laptop?
"Cobs"#1150: hmmm you may struggle with this one
Gamefreak924#5901: Yeh
"Cobs"#1150: you might need to boot windows to go
"Cobs"#1150: see in device manager if you can pull the hardware id's so we can see if drivers are available
Gamefreak924#5901: I only see options on the site for Embedded Windows
"Cobs"#1150: Yeah, it's not designed for anything other than that
"Cobs"#1150: thin clients are designed to be connected to ATM's and other mission critical devices locally or via network and do nothing but that,
"Cobs"#1150: from another machine running windows, download and run rufus
"Cobs"#1150: feed it a windows 10 iso and select the windows to go option
Gamefreak924#5901: The confusing part is that Linux will detect the drive, but Windows won't
"Cobs"#1150: it'll take forever to boot on that laptop, but once it does, windows 10 will be running from the usb. use that to grab any hardware id's in device manager for "unknown device" or hard drive controllers...we'll need those to get drivers
"Cobs"#1150: yeah |
"Cobs"#1150: hp haven't made any drivers for it compatible with windows
"Cobs"#1150: so we'll need to go straight to oem
Gamefreak924#5901: Also Windows 10 ISOs always give me a bootloader error
Gamefreak924#5901: On older machines anyway
"Cobs"#1150: hmm
"Cobs"#1150: windows 8 also supports windows to go
"Cobs"#1150: failing that, windows 7 PE SE should do but setting that up is a bit of work
Gamefreak924#5901: What is Windows to go? Like a live disc or flash drive
"Cobs"#1150: basically you can run Windows directly off a USB
"Cobs"#1150: like linux
"Cobs"#1150: except the entire file system and OS is live from the usb, not held in memory like linux kernels
"Cobs"#1150: so it's slow unless on usb 3, but not unusable
"Cobs"#1150: for diagnostic purposes like this its great
Gamefreak924#5901: Okay I'm short on USB drives. Will a disc work?
"Cobs"#1150: No |
"Cobs"#1150: you're running windows off a usb
"Cobs"#1150: read only media won't do
"Cobs"#1150: it needs to be at least 32gb
Racey#8574: you can technically run an OS off a DVD-RW
"Cobs"#1150: gl with that
"Cobs"#1150: lmfao
Racey#8574: but you only get ~4.5 GB
"Cobs"#1150: linux maybe, windows nah
Racey#8574: Blu Rays
Racey#8574: maybe
Gamefreak924#5901: My linux disc works fine
"Cobs"#1150: yeah
"Cobs"#1150: linux works differently to windows though
"Cobs"#1150: your other option is just running windows in a vm with like kvm-manager/libvirt on linux
Gamefreak924#5901: There are a couple forum posts talking about Windows 7/10 on the laptop |
Gamefreak924#5901: And there have apparently been ebay listings
"Cobs"#1150: if I had the laptop in front of me for a few nights i'd get windows running on it in no time
"Cobs"#1150: might check ebay and see if theres any cheapo ones as a quick project
Gamefreak924#5901: "Few nights"
Gamefreak924#5901: Yeah I want this done tonight
"Cobs"#1150: not gonna happen
"Cobs"#1150: at all
"Cobs"#1150: unless you have usbs, at least 4-5 hours and a windows machine capable of flashing a windows to go usb
Gamefreak924#5901: Would it work if I cloned a drive that had windows on it and stuck it in the machine?
"Cobs"#1150: yes
"Cobs"#1150: well
"Cobs"#1150: potentially, you'll need to sysprep it which wipes all drivers before cloning
"Cobs"#1150: only one i can find is this, damn https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/766802290819858432/unknown.png
Racey#8574: "cheap"
Gamefreak924#5901: I guess I'll try that then. Opening up the pc is a pain though |
"Cobs"#1150: nvm :LUL: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/766802363671248906/unknown.png
Gamefreak924#5901: I bought this one from my work for $50
Racey#8574: :Hahahahaha:
"Cobs"#1150: you my dude have over-paid by $50
Gamefreak924#5901: It was either this is a 4310s for $100
"Cobs"#1150: id of passed on both
Gamefreak924#5901: My boss is super cheap
"Cobs"#1150: its not even worth that though
Gamefreak924#5901: I couldn't find too much else for $50
Gamefreak924#5901: And I wanted something quick
"Cobs"#1150: fair enough
"Cobs"#1150: i usually scout fb marketplace every now and then for things like that
Gamefreak924#5901: It's just for my girlfriend's sister since all she has is a school-provided chromebook
Gamefreak924#5901: I figured I'd give her an actual computer to use for whatever
"Cobs"#1150: if you get windows to go running on it, i'll help you best i can |
"Cobs"#1150: but without that it's gonna be tough
"Cobs"#1150: unless you want to go the kvm manager route via linux
"Cobs"#1150: and have linux always boot directly into a vm
"Cobs"#1150: both options are extremely complex though
"Cobs"#1150: there's no easy route with this laptop.
Gamefreak924#5901: Wait a sec
"Cobs"#1150: I do have genuine ISO files for those windows embedded versions, but it'd take over 6 hours on my internet to upload
BigPierogi#3368: just use irc
BigPierogi#3368: smh
Gamefreak924#5901: Would it be possible for me to clone a Windows-loaded drive to the installed one using my Linux live disc
"Cobs"#1150: yeah you can clone
"Cobs"#1150: but you'll bsod on boot if you don't remove the drivers first if it's 7
"Cobs"#1150: you can try it
Gamefreak924#5901: How does one clone with Linux Mint 17.3
"Cobs"#1150: but don't expect blazing results |
"Cobs"#1150: i wouldn't do that
"Cobs"#1150: get clonezilla
"Cobs"#1150: have both devices connected to the network and have clonezilla clone the drive from one system to the other via network
"Cobs"#1150: other option is just putting both drives in one rig and using software in windows
"Cobs"#1150: like that samsung/wd cloning software
Gamefreak924#5901: I don't honestly know if I could figure that out
"Cobs"#1150: what os is your main rig running?
Gamefreak924#5901: I have a desktop with Windows 10
Gamefreak924#5901: And a laptop with the same
Gamefreak924#5901: I use macrium for cloning all the time
"Cobs"#1150: try that
Gamefreak924#5901: Wouldn't I have to take the drive out of the HP though?
"Cobs"#1150: yup
Gamefreak924#5901: Dang
Gamefreak924#5901: I really want to just avoid that |
Gamefreak924#5901: Well, thank you one way or another. I'll let you know how it all goes
"Cobs"#1150: fingers crossed
"Cobs"#1150: if one comes up cheap in future i'll probs snag it as a project laptop
"Cobs"#1150: i love odd hardware like that
Gamefreak924#5901: I learned that I can clone inside linux using the dd command
Gamefreak924#5901: So I don't have to take the drive out of the laptop -u-
Gamefreak924#5901: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/766822033371562024/image0.jpg
Gamefreak924#5901: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/766822283036983336/image0.jpg
Gamefreak924#5901: Still nothing
Gamefreak924#5901: At this point, it would seem to be a bios issue, since the drive shows up and works fine elsewhere
Gamefreak924#5901: Sucks
Gamefreak924#5901: It literally won't even let me update the bios with a flash drive
Gamefreak924#5901: I'm in so much pain
Lady Mipha#0611: is the file on the root of the usb
Gamefreak924#5901: Yeah I formatted one of my flash drives |
Gamefreak924#5901: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/766854106626129990/image0.jpg
Gamefreak924#5901: I literally don't know what to do now since it won't recognize the hard drive no matter what
Gamefreak924#5901: I can try swapping the drive back out for the small drive that was in it before. Maybe I can install the bios from there
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Hmmm
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Can you double-check the BIOS? SATA and hard drive related settings?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Take a few screenshots and upload them here
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: And the USB
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: You have to format it to DOS or FAT IIRC
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/swdetails/hp-probook-4320s-notebook-pc/4145545/swItemId/ob-88666-2
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @Gamefreak924
Gamefreak924#5901: I found a bios update
Gamefreak924#5901: Got it done
Gamefreak924#5901: I think there's just some bootrec related issue now. I'm not sure
OmegaChamp#6440: The latch on my motherboard cable extension came of will I still be able to use it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/767380256671399936/image0.jpg
DarknessFalls229#2286: unless it comes loose from its socket no |
JustinXenyx#8854: @OmegaChamp It will work, but there's nothing holding the cable really in
JustinXenyx#8854: So it might just pull out because of movement or other circumstances
Santaclaw[PC]#2629: It shouldn't be a problem at all. If you can, support the motherboard from the underside, an press it fully into the socket and it normally won't come off easily, even without the tab.
weshii#0001: my corsair fans aren't working, one LED is stuck on green for the bottom fan and the top fan has only 3 LED's working
weshii#0001: lemme get a p ic
"Cobs"#1150: take it youve rebooted and pulled the plug from your psu for a few moments? my asus board did that with my corsair fans
weshii#0001: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/767529942496968754/image0.jpg
weshii#0001: yeah it's happened a few times
weshii#0001: but it fucked when the first time i turned my pc on
"Cobs"#1150: what software you using to control them?
weshii#0001: like the lights worked fine for a split second
weshii#0001: icue
"Cobs"#1150: Yeah mine resets when it boots until windows logs in
weshii#0001: it's been like that since i got them
"Cobs"#1150: hmm |
"Cobs"#1150: not using an extender is it?
"Cobs"#1150: like both are plugged into individual rgb ports?
weshii#0001: it's using the cable that's coming from the cpu block
weshii#0001: yeah
weshii#0001: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/767530294286483516/image0.jpg
weshii#0001: terrible cable managment
weshii#0001: i should re-do it
"Cobs"#1150: odd
"Cobs"#1150: maybe try reinstalling icue i guess
"Cobs"#1150: never had that
weshii#0001: i've done that
weshii#0001: still nothing
weshii#0001: the bottom fan is unresponsive to software
"Cobs"#1150: bios updates?
"Cobs"#1150: its like its not been plugged in properly |
weshii#0001: how do i check for bios updates
weshii#0001: i mean
weshii#0001: on one of the thingy's
weshii#0001: let me get a pic
"Cobs"#1150: just go for normal bios updates on your board
weshii#0001: god i'll have to switch off my pc
"Cobs"#1150: mine had some asus rgb software
weshii#0001: i'll take a pic tomorrow
"Cobs"#1150: think it was called dual intelligent processors oddly enough
weshii#0001: i'll install MyASUS
"Cobs"#1150: oh yeah try installing asus armor crate too
weshii#0001: i have that
"Cobs"#1150: that was what its called
"Cobs"#1150: aye fire that up and close icue
"Cobs"#1150: see if it lets you control them |
weshii#0001: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/767531034736197672/unknown.png
"Cobs"#1150: aye go to effects
weshii#0001: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/767531113266544650/unknown.png
"Cobs"#1150: click a random one
"Cobs"#1150: change the colour
"Cobs"#1150: see if it does it on both, make sure icue is closed tho
weshii#0001: it just changes the motherboard rgb
weshii#0001: hmm
"Cobs"#1150: odd
"Cobs"#1150: try ticking the addressable header one only
weshii#0001: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/767531515587330068/unknown.png
"Cobs"#1150: hmph
weshii#0001: thats what happens when i try to untick the mbo
"Cobs"#1150: right weird that tbh
"Cobs"#1150: cus mine does it all through those |
weshii#0001: strange
weshii#0001: i'll partially rebuild my pc tomororw
"Cobs"#1150: aye
weshii#0001: and re-do the cable management and stuff
"Cobs"#1150: check your cables are plugged in for that fan ig
weshii#0001: yeah
weshii#0001: it's weird because
weshii#0001: you know how the rgb is 4pins or 3 pins right
weshii#0001: in one of the female connectors there's one metal thingy missing
weshii#0001: while the other has all of them
"Cobs"#1150: lmao
"Cobs"#1150: probably doesnt help
"Cobs"#1150: mine has this weird small black plug
weshii#0001: probably not
"Cobs"#1150: with 3 metal circles on it |
"Cobs"#1150: or 4
"Cobs"#1150: i cantremeber
weshii#0001: yeah
Yon#7961: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Winter7422/saved/tHDNcf
Yon#7961: how is it?
Xbox 360 1953#2640: private list
Yon#7961: how about now?
Xbox 360 1953#2640: is this stuff you have or stuff you plan to get
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Don't need Windows 10
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Throw it out and save yourself $100
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: You can use it unactivated for free
Yon#7961: plan to get
Yon#7961: > You can use it unactivated for free
@Charlie Foxtrot
Yon#7961: how? |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Yes
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It will only display a small message telling you to activate
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: And you can not customize the color or the wallpaper
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: But there are ways to bypass them
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: What's your budget and what do you use the PC for?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: For $1000 the GPU is kinda underwhelming
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: > You can use it unactivated for free
Or get a dirt cheap key on eBay or cdkey
Yon#7961: how do you get it for free
Yon#7961: 1200-1300
Yon#7961: ish around that
Yon#7961: for gaming and general uses
Yon#7961: then what about this list
Yon#7961: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sqwnnL
BigPierogi#3368: im gonna be honest with you |
BigPierogi#3368: that case looks like dogshit
Yon#7961: ok
Yon#7961: lol
Yon#7961: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/767551348480540713/20201018_205445.jpg
Yon#7961: what about this one
Yon#7961: just change the case from the last link
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TPYBPV
Yon#7961: accidentally pressed two gpu
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: What games do you play BTW
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: AAA or eSports
Yon#7961: lol minecraft
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Lol
Yon#7961: and like just trending games
Yon#7961: lol as in league of Legends
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Because they are going to release next-gen soon |
Yon#7961: but it's too expensive
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I suggest you stick with something budget for now
Yon#7961: ???
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @BigPierogi Should he go for the 5500XT?
Yon#7961: am I not?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Just want your opinion on this
Gamefreak924#5901: how do I download youtube videos nowadays?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Search youtube-dl
mi3night#2562: @Yon try not to get the corsair keyboard and razer headset
mi3night#2562: my k55 broke in 5 months and the razer kraken has meh sound quality and build quality
mi3night#2562: hyper X is much better even if it's $30 more
mi3night#2562: keyboard wise i go with logitech
mi3night#2562: logitech is my fav brand reliability wise
mi3night#2562: also for the wifi card get intel AX200 plus pcie adapter and antenna should be the same price as the one you picked
mi3night#2562: also |
mi3night#2562: why are you cross firing 2x rx580
mi3night#2562: and $220 for rx580? damn
mi3night#2562: @Charlie Foxtrot u here
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Yessir
mi3night#2562: he is literally crossfiring 2x rx580
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: What
mi3night#2562: relook at the build
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Ah he mistakenly clicked 2 GPUs
BigPierogi#3368: > accidentally pressed two gpu
No midnight
BigPierogi#3368: Read
BigPierogi#3368: Also my k55 has been going for 2 years
BigPierogi#3368: Fine
mi3night#2562: i recommend logitech more tho
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Morrisons, 5500XT, good or not good for $200? |
mi3night#2562: razer uses their own keycaps
mi3night#2562: navi
mi3night#2562: i personally wait for ampere $200 gpu
BigPierogi#3368: I havent heard good things about navi
mi3night#2562: or big navi $200
BigPierogi#3368: But I've never used one
BigPierogi#3368: So idk
BigPierogi#3368: Probabaly best to ask one of the real tech helpers
mi3night#2562: my driver and VRAM died simultaneously
mi3night#2562: soooo
mi3night#2562: tech helpers will tell you to wait for ampere or big navi
mi3night#2562: justin slayed a techno this morning about telling his friend to wait
mi3night#2562: sooooooo yeah
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: oh god
mi3night#2562: i rather use my intel HD4600 than the 5700xt |
mi3night#2562: at least the hd4600 dont blue screen, freeze, or random green lines appear on the screen
mi3night#2562: but
mi3night#2562: that experience is random
mi3night#2562: soooooo
mi3night#2562: yeah
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: So, wait or buy now? He doesn't seem to play very demanding games
mi3night#2562: rn what i say is get a temporery gpu like rx580 then sell the 580 for $10-20 lost when 3070 becomes viable
Alcyone#2233: If I was buying a new gpu at ~ 200 I would take the 1660 super/ti over the 5500xt
Yon#7961: ...
Xbox 360 1953#2640: ...
Yon#7961: so it that a bad build?
Yon#7961: switch out the Wi-Fi adapter
Yon#7961: headset
Yon#7961: and gpu?
Zirax#2873: > If I was buying a new gpu at ~ 200 I would take the 1660 super/ti over the 5500xt |
Are nvidia or amd Linux drivers better btw?
BigPierogi#3368: amd
Zirax#2873: That's kinda sad ngl
Zirax#2873: Cause those cards had white a lot of driver issues on windows right?
BigPierogi#3368: well
BigPierogi#3368: it was mostly navi that had drivers issues
Xbox 360 1953#2640: say, does that ssd have dram
BigPierogi#3368: i dont think it does
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: They have cache though
BigPierogi#3368: theres a chart in pins
BigPierogi#3368: listing all the specs of ssds
BigPierogi#3368: or atleast most
Xbox 360 1953#2640: ohyeah my browser defaults to that whenever i type ssd
Xbox 360 1953#2640: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/767716840561442846/unknown.png
Kacpreusz#7656: Does anyone know if discord works properly on iOS 8.4.1 |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: That old? I doubt it
Kacpreusz#7656: On iOS 9 it did work however as soon as i logged in the app would crash soon after opening it
Racey#8574: You'll need a cydia tweak named Discold
D.D.M#8226: Hey guys so my mum has been telling me that her laptop wont turn on hotstop
D.D.M#8226: On closer inspection the laptop will hotspot when connected to wifi, but when i plug in a ethernet cable the wifi shuts off and when turning it on it will shut off a few seconds later.
D.D.M#8226: I have checked the bios for any lan settings and i dont see anything related and following some other things i found on the internet did nothing
D.D.M#8226: The laptop is a hp probook 470 g2
D.D.M#8226: Its running win 10
Kacpreusz#7656: For sale World's longest USB cable https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/767817248521846844/USER_SCOPED_TEMP_DATA_MSGR_PHOTO_FOR_UPLOAD_1603051243950_6723684244706375204.jpeg
Kacpreusz#7656: Only £1
OmegaChamp#6440: Do u think the 5600x will be better than the 3700x
Xbox 360 1953#2640: in gaming probably
FantaStick#8008: Gaming yes, productivity applications it'll be real close
mi3night#2562: The 5600x is a hard sell for $300 as you’re paying $100 more than the 3600 @OmegaChamp
mi3night#2562: I would not bother with the 5600x atm |
BigPierogi#3368: midnight
BigPierogi#3368: the thing isnt even out yet
BigPierogi#3368: why are you telling them not to get it
mi3night#2562: I mean
mi3night#2562: It’s a refresh cpu
mi3night#2562: But for $100 more
BigPierogi#3368: arent most intel cpus now just refresh cpus
BigPierogi#3368: :epicgamer:
mi3night#2562: No shit but they’re a lot cheaper
mi3night#2562: Cuz of ryzen
mi3night#2562: But now ryzen has crown in gaming and productivity tasks amd gonna put up the price
BigPierogi#3368: well
BigPierogi#3368: thats what happens when a product does good
BigPierogi#3368: or rather
BigPierogi#3368: a product line |
JustinXenyx#8854: @OmegaChamp I think in applications that use the full 8 cores it won't perform similarly simply because of that core advantage
JustinXenyx#8854: In most other programs however, the 5600x will outperform a 3700x by, i would guess, at least 10%
BigPierogi#3368: thats quite a bit for "refresh cpu"
JustinXenyx#8854: XT chips were refresh cpus
JustinXenyx#8854: this is improved architecture
mi3night#2562: Basically 3600 is $180 3600x is $210 3600xt $240 5600x $300
JustinXenyx#8854: You people gotta keep in mind, the 5600X obviously replaces the 3600X/XT
JustinXenyx#8854: So from a business perspective the comparison to a regular 3600 isn't quite right
JustinXenyx#8854: AMD is trying to push the X cpus first this time, as they usually don't do too hot because they actually aren't that much better than the non-X counterparts
Alcyone#2233: the 5800x is 15% faster than 5.1 lake in single core, its gonna slap ryzen 3000
FantaStick#8008: i think intel needs a full 1ghz lead over amd to match in single core
Alcyone#2233: the 5600x is only clocked like 5% lower so it will be around 600 points in cb
FantaStick#8008: which aint happening
FantaStick#8008: youd be lucky to get 500-600mhz over zen3
FantaStick#8008: with a 10600k or similar |
BigPierogi#3368: just get a pentuim 4
Alcyone#2233: they would need to be at 5.8ghz to match the 5800x single core I think
FantaStick#8008: yeah
Alcyone#2233: 630/550 is about 15%, 15% added to 5.1 is 5865mhz
Alcyone#2233: 11th gen is a new arch though, just backported to 14nm, I expect some ipc gains
FantaStick#8008: highest ive seen on regular water was 5.6
FantaStick#8008: id hope 11th gen isnt just a throwaway
BigPierogi#3368: also
FantaStick#8008: but im expecting it to be
BigPierogi#3368: who would run 5.6ghz daily
Alcyone#2233: thats probably just for benching, I dont see any lake above about 5.3 at 1.4v
BigPierogi#3368: wouldnt that be a little uh
BigPierogi#3368: unsafe?
FantaStick#8008: yes
FantaStick#8008: 5.4 is the highest daily ive seen |
Alcyone#2233: I used to run 5.3 daily on 8th gen and run 5.1 on this chip
FantaStick#8008: well actually
FantaStick#8008: 5.5
Alcyone#2233: I have voltage headroom but not thermal with my current setup
mi3night#2562: alcyone !!!
FantaStick#8008: but that person is
1) super lucky
2) also crazy
3) really good at OC apparently
mi3night#2562: do u think the 5600xt is worth it!!!
mi3night#2562: idk!!
Alcyone#2233: depends on the price, its just a hobbled 5700
FantaStick#8008: why are we talking like this!!!
mi3night#2562: !!!!
FantaStick#8008: midnight!!! |
mi3night#2562: thats my name !!!
BigPierogi#3368: midnight is a simp!!!!!
mi3night#2562: cool!!!
Alcyone#2233: simpnight?
FantaStick#8008: he is!!!
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/767876874583932938/unknown.png
mi3night#2562: AAAAAAAAAAA
Alcyone#2233: being nice to people is good
mi3night#2562: me: says hi to a girl
Alcyone#2233: SIMP
Alcyone#2233: quit it
FantaStick#8008: the whole simp thing is really toxic
FantaStick#8008: like it was funny and did have a meaning
FantaStick#8008: but now its devoid of all of that
Alcyone#2233: cpu-z valids are bs if its not running a heavy task, we can all hit 5.5 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/767877256977711114/unknown.png |
Alcyone#2233: simp is the new cuck
FantaStick#8008: woah
FantaStick#8008: cuck is way more fun to use
Alcyone#2233: people misused it though and it lost all its weight
FantaStick#8008: i guess
FantaStick#8008: not to the same degree simp has
FantaStick#8008: at least in my experience
Alcyone#2233: I think so, it just fell out of fashion as internet slang
BigPierogi#3368: this is very nice tech help
BigPierogi#3368: thank you
FantaStick#8008: yes
FantaStick#8008: im very good at helping with tech
mi3night#2562: i want a 9700kfc
Alcyone#2233: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/767878002096078879/unknown.png
Alcyone#2233: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/767878096417587280/unknown.png |
Alcyone#2233: If I had custom water I could probably get 5.3+ running p95 stable
BigPierogi#3368: nah
BigPierogi#3368: alcyone
BigPierogi#3368: what you gotta do
BigPierogi#3368: is just do it outside
BigPierogi#3368: then get alaska to cool it
Alcyone#2233: I tried that last year at -40c for hwbot country cup. The ssd froze and corrupted the os while I was setting up
BigPierogi#3368: cuz nand cant get cold
Alcyone#2233: it cannot
BigPierogi#3368: use a hard drive!
Alcyone#2233: at least not that cold. I need a hdd
Alcyone#2233: or rubberband those chemical handwarmers to the ssd
BigPierogi#3368: get a fire going
FantaStick#8008: run a long ass water loop through the snow outside
Alcyone#2233: I considered just putting a poly drum outside filled with 50/50 auto antifreeze and water |
Alcyone#2233: but it would condensate bad in the house and also leech cold in
BigPierogi#3368: what about
BigPierogi#3368: air cooling!
BigPierogi#3368: when its windy
Alcyone#2233: heatpipes arent that effective when the delta is so big
Alcyone#2233: I ran an old beema apu laptop outside as well with a fan blowing on the heatsink because the cooler went 0 rpm under like 50c
Alcyone#2233: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/386696225740685323/484231531708153856/chilly.PNG
Alcyone#2233: cpu temp just disappeared at 0c, drive temp broke
boog#9487: Fixed my friends xbox today https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/767910342385991682/20201019_200245_HDR.jpg
Yon#7961: wow
Lady Mipha#0611: xbox 360 slim
boog#9487: Yes
Racey#8574: Did you actually put a PC cooler on it
Racey#8574: Or am I dumb and that's actually the cooler for the 360 S
BigPierogi#3368: nope |
BigPierogi#3368: thats the cooler
BigPierogi#3368: for the 360
Lady Mipha#0611: that’s the cooler for the 360 @Racey
Lady Mipha#0611: did it work @boog
boog#9487: Yeah
boog#9487: It's booting in the photo
mi3night#2562: How did u fix it
boog#9487: My friend somehow ripped a resistor off along with it's pads so I traced then traces back and ran wire to the next best solder points
mi3night#2562: Sounds like a really hard thing to do
mi3night#2562: Cuz I don’t have tools
boog#9487: I guess
Yuuki#4509: What's the best RX 570 brand?
vegetal#8870: AMD.
Yuuki#4509: I mean, sub brand? Ain't sure what to call them
Yuuki#4509: Like MSI, Sapphire Pulse, etc |
Muse#0557: Vegetal for tech
JustinXenyx#8854: For one, i hope you're buying used
JustinXenyx#8854: As for the brands, it doesn't quite matter really
JustinXenyx#8854: There aren't any specific 570s i'd call out to buy or not to buy
MythologicalZ#3752: Yeah they're all mostly fine
MythologicalZ#3752: Even armour runs cool when overvolted a bit, was like 78c max in Xfire for mine
DarknessFalls229#2286: you ran RX Xfire?
MythologicalZ#3752: Yeah, ages ago when I got back into Hwbot
MythologicalZ#3752: On my 2700x and c7h
DarknessFalls229#2286: How'd it go?
MythologicalZ#3752: Well amd drivers back in early-mid 2019 were solid
MythologicalZ#3752: And I got lucky with my powercolor binning
DarknessFalls229#2286: was there any scaling?
MythologicalZ#3752: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/6990261
MythologicalZ#3752: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/6990332 |
MythologicalZ#3752: In games? only fc5 really scaled
MythologicalZ#3752: these were the best results
MythologicalZ#3752: I have the custom bios for these lying around somewhere, they had better timings that I got off a miner
DarknessFalls229#2286: neat
DarknessFalls229#2286: but i feel like its such a shame that multi card configs are just dead
MythologicalZ#3752: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/6033423
MythologicalZ#3752: this rig got me back into it
MythologicalZ#3752: because I was super pissed that the drivers werent working for 2 way
MythologicalZ#3752: so I began messing around after I sold those cards
DarknessFalls229#2286: perhaps i should do timespy with my quad SLI setup
MythologicalZ#3752: time spy generally scales well with nvidia mgpu
DarknessFalls229#2286: hope the VRAM and CPU doesnt hold it too far back
MythologicalZ#3752: cpu definitely will
DarknessFalls229#2286: because i dont have anything better than an i7 860?
DarknessFalls229#2286: do server boards support SLI? |
MythologicalZ#3752: not quad
MythologicalZ#3752: you can run the single card with sli enabled naturally but 4 way wont be able to set
DarknessFalls229#2286: hm, sad
MythologicalZ#3752: its only your cpu score and overall that will suck, gt scores will be fine
DarknessFalls229#2286: cause then id have access to 16 threads
MythologicalZ#3752: as long as you manage temps
DarknessFalls229#2286: the 690s only run at 70C so its managable
MythologicalZ#3752: solid
DarknessFalls229#2286: the fan on my newest card is a bit noisy though
JustinXenyx#8854: @MythologicalZ even stock the OG Armor doesn't go much above 85C usually
JustinXenyx#8854: like, ideally you'd want to stay below that but those temps are still perfectly acceptable for operation
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah
Yuuki#4509: Thanks!
Alcyone#2233: 85c on a puny chip is pretty bad
Alcyone#2233: safe, but not ideal |
Yuuki#4509: Is the HIS RX 570 ok?
mi3night#2562: @Yuuki price ?
mi3night#2562: Also idk about the bottleneck situation because the a8 7600 is just a glorified 4 core FX cpu
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: You can slot in an A10, but a better solution would be to ditch it altogether and save up for a Ryzen 3
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Hell, even newer Athlons would give the A8 a run for its money
Lady Mipha#0611: ^^^^
JustinXenyx#8854: > Also idk about the bottleneck situation be used the a8 7600 is just a glorified 4 core FX cpu
glorified FX without L3 cache*
JustinXenyx#8854: the missing L3 cache REALLY fucks with those APU/FM2 chips in general
Xbox 360 1953#2640: how does a gt 1030 for 15$ sound?
Xbox 360 1953#2640: g5
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah deal
Xbox 360 1953#2640: cool
Xbox 360 1953#2640: friend upgraded to 1650s and he told me 15
DarknessFalls229#2286: thats hella deal |
mi3night#2562: Resell it on eBay
BigPierogi#3368: And make it overpriced like midnight does
wiryfuture🦀#1706: or put it into a "gaming pc" and it'll be even more overpriced
Alcyone#2233: I would just keep it as a backup/display out
FantaStick#8008: id resell it
FantaStick#8008: gt640 is the best backup/display out card
Alcyone#2233: any 75w or less card that has the connections for your display is good to have
FantaStick#8008: true
Alcyone#2233: hd 4350 was mine but I dropped it down the stairs and now it ded
FantaStick#8008: but i like gt640 cause some oem motherboard you might want to test will throw fits running anything past 600 series cards
Alcyone#2233: only backup is a gtx 560 rn and that needs 2x 6 pin so I have to dig out psu cables and hook it all up if I need to flash a bricked gpu bios or something
Alcyone#2233: having a card you can just jam in the slot is chill.
Ocelot#7239: Having some internet issues if anyone's keen to try and help :3
Alcyone#2233: whats the issue?
Ocelot#7239: Slow as fuck @Alcyone |
Ocelot#7239: Im paying for 150mb down . when I run a speed test im getting around 7mb down which seems about right the problem is in practice
Ocelot#7239: Im still downloading at around 800kb
Ocelot#7239: Ive changed the frequency on my router tried my other network same result. Tried ethernet . updated drivers for it and its actually worse
Ocelot#7239: then the fucking wifi
Lady Mipha#0611: 800kb is 7mb down @Ocelot
Ocelot#7239: See im really uninformed about networking.
Ocelot#7239: The problem is
Ocelot#7239: Im paying for 150 down
Ocelot#7239: Im not exactly sure how to do that conversion
Ocelot#7239: I thought it was 8 bits to a byte
Ocelot#7239: @Alcyone
Ocelot#7239: Yeah if thats correct it should max out at almost 19megabytes/s?
JustinXenyx#8854: the difference is one is marked b and the other is marked B
> I thought it was 8 bits to a byte
JustinXenyx#8854: Megabit is Mb, Megabyte is MB for example |
Ocelot#7239: Interesting 🙂
JustinXenyx#8854: **you need to mark them correctly ffs**
Ocelot#7239: I didn't know. Sorry
Muse#0557: B is 8x more than b basically
Ocelot#7239: 150 Mbps
Ocelot#7239: Directly from my isps portal
JustinXenyx#8854: > Im paying for 150mb down . when I run a speed test im getting around 7mb down which seems about right the problem is in practice
7MB isn't quite right if you're paying for about 19MB
JustinXenyx#8854: The question is
JustinXenyx#8854: have you **ever** even had 19MB download speeds before?
Ocelot#7239: Yeah Im really ignorant about this topic
Ocelot#7239: No
JustinXenyx#8854: Call your ISP and demand a downgrade (and partial refund) then
Ocelot#7239: I just got this installed today
JustinXenyx#8854: Something with either your connection or router hardware is off |
JustinXenyx#8854: ISP routers tend to suck quite badly
Ocelot#7239: Im running it on copper
Ocelot#7239: and its still garbo
Ocelot#7239: Would you consider that to be the issue? I made sure to update my ethernet drivers before I tested the wired connection
JustinXenyx#8854: With connection i'm more referring to the wiring going to your home
JustinXenyx#8854: But surely if they sold you a 150Mbps connection they'd know if it would run in your house?
Ocelot#7239: Its brand new was ran into the house two days ago
Ocelot#7239: Im not sure if thats what you mean or not . Its coax from the telephone pole
JustinXenyx#8854: DOCSIS then, got it
JustinXenyx#8854: I'd likely blame the router then, is it something ISP custom or is it a "normal" router?
JustinXenyx#8854: > Im not sure if thats what you mean or not . Its coax from the telephone pole
And yeah, that's kind of what i meant
Ocelot#7239: arris xb8
Ocelot#7239: Which i think is a generic router
JustinXenyx#8854: Nah seems like some custom router |
JustinXenyx#8854: Or at least a very specific OEM router
JustinXenyx#8854: because the Internet knows jack shit about it
Ocelot#7239: Shaw and rogers seem to be the only company that use it
Ocelot#7239: I agree I can't even find a spec page for it
Ocelot#7239: Or anywheres selling it
JustinXenyx#8854: I'd definitely call your ISP then
JustinXenyx#8854: You're obviously not getting what you're paying for
Ocelot#7239: Ill call them tomorrow give them a chance to rectify this and if not maybe ill go and purchase a new router
BigPierogi#3368: wait
BigPierogi#3368: how much are you getting down?
JustinXenyx#8854: 7MB
BigPierogi#3368: uhhhhh
JustinXenyx#8854: vs his 18.75 he should be getting
BigPierogi#3368: is the router 10/100?
BigPierogi#3368: or gigabit? |
JustinXenyx#8854: I'd fucking hope they gave him a gigabit router
JustinXenyx#8854: Otherwise it would be mad stupid
JustinXenyx#8854: but even 7MB is far off 100Mb/12.5MB
BigPierogi#3368: cringe
BigPierogi#3368: contact your isp
BigPierogi#3368: and ask them what the fuck they are doing
Ocelot#7239: Its rogers
Ocelot#7239: Canada just has trash fucking expensive internet lmao
BigPierogi#3368: how much do you pay
Alcyone#2233: to verify, a speedtest was ran and not a file download from an external server right? oh nvm missed it
Ocelot#7239: 130 ish
Ocelot#7239: and yes I used a couple different speedtests online with ethernet and wifi
Ocelot#7239: Yeah there was absolutely nothing I could find online that elevated the issue
Ocelot#7239: It's either the router or Roger's is a bunch of scamming fucks
Yuuki#4509: what causes the bsod unexpected store exception? |
Yuuki#4509: it always occurs when i play games or stream
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Have you replaced your PSU?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: What's the AMD driver version you are on?
Abe.#3344: What's the most budget, 1Tb SSD out there rn?
Abe.#3344: I've run out of space on my 250gb OS SSD for all my VFX Stuff, and a hardrive just ain't gonna cut it when loading in a bunch of assets
D.D.M#8226: Well it depends where you are searching as prices vary
D.D.M#8226: Just try searching on amzon an maybe youll get lucky
Alcyone#2233: Anybody know of decent TKL keyboards that use mx silent red/pink switches?
FantaStick#8008: there are quite a number
FantaStick#8008: what budget are we working with
FantaStick#8008: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?search_type=keyboard&keyword=&brand=&capmat=&capprint=&switch=Cherry-MX-Silent-Red&size=Tenkeyless&led=&model=&availability=in_stock
FantaStick#8008: most of these are solid boards
Alcyone#2233: ayy thanks
Alcyone#2233: Ideally I would like to pay less than that, maybe I will get a normal red kb and o rings
FantaStick#8008: you could do the elbow grease route of buying a cheap mechanical board and soldering in new switches yourself |
Alcyone#2233: I would like a nice housing, metal preferably
zwect#1210: is this a good M2? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/769016085306540102/unknown.png
JustinXenyx#8854: Theoretically speaking it doesn't look too bad, but i would be cautious with unbranded/no-name branded SSDs
mi3night#2562: @zwect price?
zwect#1210: oh
zwect#1210: idk bcuz its an brazilian price
zwect#1210: and shit here is going preeeetty bad
mi3night#2562: @zwect try to find all the ssd in that price range
zwect#1210: other than that one
zwect#1210: there are only SATA ones
Yuuki#4509: > What's the AMD driver version you are on?
@Charlie Foxtrot Latest stable
Zirax#2873: My friend is having a problem where his webcam just suddenly stops functioning, after a restart it comes alive again and as far as I can tell suspending is what causes the issue, is there any way to deal with that other than just not suspending the device?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Check Windows power option
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: The USB suspension option |
Zirax#2873: Ok
JustinXenyx#8854: > what causes the bsod unexpected store exception?
@Yuuki You got a screenshot?
zwect#1210: wtf? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/769236616103329825/unknown.png
zwect#1210: is this defective or its because of branding and longevity?
FantaStick#8008: Your ssd is getting full
FantaStick#8008: If this is a dramless drive also housing your OS on it this is to be expected
FantaStick#8008: It'll slow down to a crawl as it gets closer to maxing out your storage space
Muse#0557: Dram is daddy
Racey#8574: dram is 🧱
Alcyone#2233: nvme below 512gb suck
Alcyone#2233: just get a sata ssd
Racey#8574: My thinking is always save your NVMe slot for a really good SSD you'll be using for a long time
Muse#0557: ^
Muse#0557: Imo m.2 drives under 512gb that arent Nvme are a waste of money |
Muse#0557: Just go Sata 2.5
DarknessFalls229#2286: meanwhile im STILL using a 120GB sata SSD
Muse#0557: 180gb intel for me
Muse#0557: :monke:
zwect#1210: wow
zwect#1210: cleaned it
zwect#1210: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/769317834844274748/unknown.png
Alcyone#2233: if you over partition and limit capacity to 400-410gb it will probably maintain those speeds
Alcyone#2233: when you are over like 85-90% capacity ssd can slow down greatly
zwect#1210: ohh, got it
D.D.M#8226: Hey guys so ever since i got my gtx 550 ti, i plugged it in my pc on the top pcie slot but it doesn't give a picture, but it gives a picture on the bottom pcie slot. But when i select the igpu and go into windows, device manager shows it but with a ! mark. I have tried the efi and legacy mode in the gpu settings on the mobos bios but to no avail? I havent tested the gpu in another mobo as i dont have free one right now
D.D.M#8226: Any ideas?
D.D.M#8226: My mobo is a ga-z77-ds3h
D.D.M#8226: Bios ver. 1.0
D.D.M#8226: Also its not dying it runs anything it can handle with no issue |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: So I guess the top slot is dead?
D.D.M#8226: But i also had a r9 280x (which i think its dead) worked on the top slot
D.D.M#8226: Sry for not mentioning
JustinXenyx#8854: have you tried using the 280x on the bottom slot? @D.D.M
JustinXenyx#8854: Maybe the PCIe slot just died
D.D.M#8226: So i got my other mobo back and that one has 1 pcie slot and the gtx 550 ti works there
D.D.M#8226: @JustinXenyx yeah i am already setting it up
Yuuki#4509: > @Yuuki You got a screenshot?
@JustinXenyx no, unfortunately
TheFifthAce#4128: @D.D.M I mean just use the bottom slot
TheFifthAce#4128: 4x/8x pcie 3.0 is plenty of bandwidth for a 550 ti
JustinXenyx#8854: it's not only PCIe 2.0, but GPUs relying on swapping VRAM into system RAM need full bus bandwidth @TheFifthAce
TheFifthAce#4128: why is it pcie 2.0
TheFifthAce#4128: its a z77
JustinXenyx#8854: because it is a 550Ti you moron |
TheFifthAce#4128: oh right
JustinXenyx#8854: they don't support PCIe 3.0
TheFifthAce#4128: :woag:
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx still feel like it wont saturate an x8 2.0 connection either
JustinXenyx#8854: > it's not only PCIe 2.0, but GPUs relying on swapping VRAM into system RAM need full bus bandwidth
GPUs like the 1060 3GB, 5500XT 4GB or older cards like a 3GB GTX780 or 2GB GTX770 quite rely on the full PCIe bus to push all their VRAM stuff around
JustinXenyx#8854: 5500XT 4GB quite suffers just going from 8 lane PCIe 4.0 to 3.0 and that's what used to be considered fine bandwidth for GPUs
JustinXenyx#8854: Stuff is just a lot more VRAM intensive now
D.D.M#8226: @JustinXenyx using the bottom slot isnt a problem but i have to have the side panel open so the 550 ti doesn't overheat but the pc gets very dusty so i was trying to see if i could do anything so i can keep the panel closed
D.D.M#8226: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/769623659412193350/20201024_200844.jpg
Muse#0557: How are you overheating a 550 ti
Muse#0557: Answer: You aren't?
Muse#0557: There are passive 550 Tis iirc
D.D.M#8226: :sadcena:
D.D.M#8226: Well this one isnt |
D.D.M#8226: And i dont think passive ones exist
Muse#0557: You're not going to hotbox a 550 ti lmao
Yon#7961: guys should I get raspberry Pi 4 for 100 something or get dell xps m1330 for 50 something
Muse#0557: 100 for a pi 4
Muse#0557: Boy
Muse#0557: What
Yon#7961: 80
Yon#7961: not 100
Yon#7961: 80 plus memory and case
Yon#7961: the pi is 56
JustinXenyx#8854: well what do you want to use it for
Yon#7961: multitasking
Yon#7961: this a good monitor?
Yon#7961: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/769727313046536242/20201024_210122.jpg
Muse#0557: its a generic small cheap monitor |
Muse#0557: they all look the same
Muse#0557: a bit dimm
Muse#0557: over contrasty
Muse#0557: works as a monitor
Budget#8265: Looks like a generic monitor
Yon#7961: do we need a speaker
Budget#8265: best bet is a $35 Dell Monitor
Budget#8265: ebay will be your saviour
Yon#7961: can't find one
Yon#7961: oh
Yon#7961: ok
Muse#0557: Hamish just here repeating everything i say
Budget#8265: Ye
Muse#0557: i am bills confirmed
Budget#8265: Anyways now im off |
Budget#8265: enjoy the 3rd place VOD
Budget#8265: that could have been second place if i hadnt fucked it
Budget#8265: 🙏
Budget#8265: p a i n
Budget#8265: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2wqrQAruZA
Un karr#9168: ive got a strange issue mates, i have a i5 first gen that runs 10x hotter then a i7 3770s with the same cooler
Un karr#9168: this is the cooler in question https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/769844611413180446/Z.png
Un karr#9168: highest temp i got from the i5 with this cooler was 80 degrees
highest temp i got from the i7 with this cooler was 65 degrees
Un karr#9168: and that was at full load for both
Racey#8574: the i5 is first gen correct
Racey#8574: that's your problem
Un karr#9168: yes correct its first gen
Un karr#9168: so im just thinking, why on earth does it get as hot as a P4?
Racey#8574: Because you're probably using a cooler designed for lower TDP CPUs like your said i7-3770S |
Un karr#9168: hmm thats intresting
mi3night#2562: I mean just by the arch itself
mi3night#2562: 45nm vs 22nm?
Racey#8574: 32nm
Racey#8574: it's an unfair comparison
mi3night#2562: No Ivy is 22
Racey#8574: the i5 is probably at a 70-75W TDP on 32nm compared to the i7's 65W TDP on 22nm
mi3night#2562: Also you’re comparing S series to regular
mi3night#2562: If you place a 3770 vs a i5 650 then yeah
Racey#8574: i5-650 🙏
Un karr#9168: yea i guess so
Un karr#9168: i believe that i5 is a 870
mi3night#2562: I5 650 best cpu
mi3night#2562: Oh
Un karr#9168: but i dont remember |
Racey#8574: i7-870*
mi3night#2562: That’s i7
mi3night#2562: Probably
mi3night#2562: Uh
mi3night#2562: 770?
Un karr#9168: hold on lemme check the cpu
mi3night#2562: Idky
Racey#8574: then that's a 95W TDP if it's an i7-870
Racey#8574: on 45nm
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/769846523516420096/image0.png
Un karr#9168: sry about that, its a i5 750
Racey#8574: still 95W, 45nm
Racey#8574: that explains it all
Un karr#9168: is it rlly that high?
Racey#8574: yes |
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