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Muse#0557: Gamemax Expedition
Muse#0557: For the case
Muse#0557: And honestly the board is fine for the price
Muse#0557: And I doubt there's much b450 stock
Un karr#9168: my case at the moment... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/775644325018337290/9k.png
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Caprice
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Can you tell your friend to bump up the price
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: To like £750-800? If he wants a full PC, with monitor?
mi3night#2562: Guys and ladies
Un karr#9168: yea sure. ill tell him that before he decides to get a shitty laptop instead
mi3night#2562: Are 1st and 2nd gen thread ripper worth it
Un karr#9168: nope
mi3night#2562: Mobo price is like $69420360
Un karr#9168: yep
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: > Are 1st and 2nd gen thread ripper worth it |
@mi3night No
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: They got punt kicked by newer Ryzens IIRC
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: And the boards are pretty expensive
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/775645207063429140/image0.png
mi3night#2562: 🤨
Un karr#9168: i have one more question for yall
Lady Mipha#0611: 1st and 2nd gen threadripper got kicked by 3rd gen ryzen
Deleted User#0000: That's a great price
Deleted User#0000: Ask
Deleted User#0000: Indeed @Lady Mipha but for an affordable server it's pretty decent
Deleted User#0000: Well decent it's not the correct word, it's still very powerful
Un karr#9168: i have this case with a built in lcd screen, i cant figure out how to get it working though with windows https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/775645873648566283/unknown.png
Un karr#9168: anyone know a way to get it working?
Deleted User#0000: It's hard to know
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Either it's dead |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Or something is wrong with the cable
Deleted User#0000: You should first take a look at the pinout of that thing
Un karr#9168: its not dead cause when i plug in the psu, it says welcome
Un karr#9168: ok ill have a looksie at the pins
Un karr#9168: it also has something ive never seen on a pc, literal rca ports! https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/775647066528415754/2Q.png
Un karr#9168: sadly i cant test if they work cause the new mobo doesnt have enough audio outputs, unless there is some kind of card that allows extra audio connectors
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @Un karr https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/dt2TnL
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: £800
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: 2700X + 1660
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: 8c/16t
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @Muse
Un karr#9168: thats just right for him
MythologicalZ#3752: Don't get that ssd
MythologicalZ#3752: Or a 2700x with that board unless you run it stock
Un karr#9168: i have a samsung ssd i'll give to him |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/b8gpHz
MythologicalZ#3752: what is this build for
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Full PC with monitor and keyboard for CAD
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: £750-800
Muse#0557: 2700x on that board is ehh aslong as its left bone stock
Muse#0557: Its a low tier board but for £45 with a 2600 its not dreadful
MythologicalZ#3752: that board is frankly a fire hazard with 8c zen+
Muse#0557: It is not great
MythologicalZ#3752: its good for zen 1,2,3 6c
MythologicalZ#3752: since nice bios and ok io
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Oof
MythologicalZ#3752: it'll do ok for a 2700x but dont tune it aggressively
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: So I will take it down to a 2600 and kick up the GPU to something nicer?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: But I already got a 1660 Super so...
Un karr#9168: 1660 is enough |
Muse#0557: I think this neck of the gpu market has extreme deminishing returns
Muse#0557: No point spending more
MythologicalZ#3752: do you need a good monitor
MythologicalZ#3752: or can you just nab something used for cheap
MythologicalZ#3752: like an old syncmaster or whatever off gumtree etc
Muse#0557: I'd imagine they'd be using multiple for any sort of CAD
Un karr#9168: he dont need gud monitor
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I picked a pretty decent Dell
Un karr#9168: yea he did ngl
Un karr#9168: he fine with using a normal 10 yr old monitor
Un karr#9168: its just the power he need
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: So that his eyes won't bleed looking at it 8+ hours
MythologicalZ#3752: if you pull that 150 off and get whatever is lying around spare you can bump to a 3600 and get better memory and a better board
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @Un karr Do you need a keyboard and mouse?
Un karr#9168: nope |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: We could save a further £25
Un karr#9168: he has a set
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @MythologicalZ Plz do your magic
Un karr#9168: yeas plz
MythologicalZ#3752: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FCYwcT
MythologicalZ#3752: I dont know if the memory is rev e or anything good but its still 3600cl16 xmp
MythologicalZ#3752: you can drop the cooler too, forgot to pull it out
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: So you save £20
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Maybe for a 2TB HDD
MythologicalZ#3752: nvm
MythologicalZ#3752: 3700x is 10 quid more at amazon
MythologicalZ#3752: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/WqFxsX
MythologicalZ#3752: here
MythologicalZ#3752: probably cheaper places to get it but now its 8c zen 2, 3600c16 and nice giga b550
MythologicalZ#3752: assuming theres a usable monitor around and kb/m it should work solid for cad |
Un karr#9168: right ill have a look, thanks for your help you guys
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @Muse Is the Mythological build good to go?
Un karr#9168: yep its good though its kinda gone a bit over the budget
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: By £175
Un karr#9168: yea but it should be fine
MythologicalZ#3752: looking at amazon that kit is rev e
Muse#0557: You can get 3200mhz for £46
Muse#0557: And the red gamemax burns my eyes
MythologicalZ#3752: so it'll oc good for the future
Muse#0557: Other than that
MythologicalZ#3752: 3200 probably at c16
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: > And the red gamemax burns my eyes
@Muse Wait didn't you recommend that?
MythologicalZ#3752: which is worse
Un karr#9168: it should be perfect for his CAD |
Muse#0557: Yeh but its also £25 less
Muse#0557: Myth
Muse#0557: They make a navy, black and black gamemax expedition also
MythologicalZ#3752: I didnt pick the case
Muse#0557: Ah
MythologicalZ#3752: it was there when I edited the list
Un karr#9168: also please keep in mind lads that this pc is going in to a office
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I did
Un karr#9168: that case needs to be minimalist
Muse#0557: £25 more for some slightly better clocks and timings is not worth it imo
MythologicalZ#3752: its zen 2
MythologicalZ#3752: 400mhz will help since you can then run 1:1 with xmp verified
Un karr#9168: imma change the case to something more conservative as like i said its going into a office
MythologicalZ#3752: otherwise if you want 3200 it'll still work great
Muse#0557: Also with the gamemax the black is really chill looking just swap out the tacky blue led fan |
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/775664925959782400/gmxcsexpeditionblk_5.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/775664926185226260/7cbc5087282713648f97605390a6319e-hi.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/775664926625759282/gmxcsexpeditionblk_5_1.jpg
Un karr#9168: eh that looks better
MythologicalZ#3752: p300 is 43 off amazon
Muse#0557: Is it really?
Muse#0557: Get that then
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: £ or $
Muse#0557: Is the p300 atx?
Un karr#9168: pounds
MythologicalZ#3752: if the link ever loads I can tell you
MythologicalZ#3752: ah wait no, oos
Un karr#9168: i never use dollars
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah its in pounds
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: British superiority
Un karr#9168: ok that should be good
Muse#0557: Myth is the p300 atx or Matx |
MythologicalZ#3752: its atx
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: What about the PSU?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Can we do better?
MythologicalZ#3752: that unit shouldnt have any issues
Un karr#9168: which psu u choosed? seasonic?
Muse#0557: I might buy a p300 for myself then
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Seasonic
MythologicalZ#3752: plus fifth is probably sleeping
Un karr#9168: right right, should be perfect
Un karr#9168: its damn better then my aercool integrator 600
Un karr#9168: right well i'll forward the link to my freind and see what he thinks. thank you @MythologicalZ @Charlie Foxtrot @Muse
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah no problem
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: No problemo
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: From this experience
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I propose we ask anyone who wants a PC build to make a Google Doc file containing information about the build, like the budget and their needs, so that we won't lose track of it easily |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: The form we could borrow from r/buildapc
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Also a list of suggested builds for different price ranges updated regularly
Un karr#9168: yea thats a good idea
Gamefreak924#5901: So I picked up the Y430 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/775712479544213555/image0.jpg
Gamefreak924#5901: To make it worth the hassle, I will have to sell this thing upgraded for at least $120 plus shipping
JustinXenyx#8854: uuuuuuuuuuuuuuh chief
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Oh god
JustinXenyx#8854: no one is gonna buy a laptop like that for 120 USD plus shipping
Gamefreak924#5901: It's a risk
Gamefreak924#5901: lol that's what I thought
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Is that plastic wrapper on the deck
Gamefreak924#5901: But someone bought one used with the original box for $200
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: When you talked of the Y430 I thought it was the gaming laptop lmao
Gamefreak924#5901: The laptop was $40, plus repair/upgrades will be another $50 about
Gamefreak924#5901: This is all a trial run to see if people actually are interested in this stuff |
JustinXenyx#8854: > But someone bought one used with the original box for $200
is this just another random example you just pulled from eBay or something
Gamefreak924#5901: I can mention places like walmart where people buy old netbooks for $250
Gamefreak924#5901: Source: my work
JustinXenyx#8854: they aren't 2008 pentium dual core old though
DarknessFalls229#2286: describe 'old'
Gamefreak924#5901: HP Mini 1103
JustinXenyx#8854: > describe 'old'
@DarknessFalls229 Probably something Intel Atom or low end "celeron" based
JustinXenyx#8854: > HP Mini 1103
If anybody is buying that for $250 they're probably being taken advantage of by not knowing better
DarknessFalls229#2286: Also, theyre buying a new in box tiny laptop
Gamefreak924#5901: I'm upgrading the cpu to a T9400 (from a T3400) in the Y430, upgrading the RAM the 4GB (from 2GB) and buying a new charger
Gamefreak924#5901: That's not new in box that people buy from my work
Gamefreak924#5901: They buy refurbished |
DarknessFalls229#2286: alright then, weird
Gamefreak924#5901: Let me put it this way- I don't expect people like us to buy this stuff. I expect boomers or Xers to buy it
Gamefreak924#5901: Or some person who collects old laptops for some reason
JustinXenyx#8854: > Let me put it this way- I don't expect people like us to buy this stuff. I expect boomers or Xers to buy it
i mean, isn't that still taking advantage of people who don't know any better?
Gamefreak924#5901: After the Y430 is done, I might buy an Inspiron 1525. After that, I'm thinking of going solely for netbooks
JustinXenyx#8854: And if anything, "Xers" aren't gonna be interested in something that old lmao
Gamefreak924#5901: And yeah in a sense it is taking advantage, but don't most things take advantage of people?
Gamefreak924#5901: My gen X stepdad was really interested in an old netbook
Gamefreak924#5901: It's basically just older people
Gamefreak924#5901: Someone might buy it to just mess around with. I don't even see any Y430 listings on ebay currently
Budget#8265: @mi3night @Un karr CAD Software is single core af from my knowledge. Really worth using something with XFR2 over sheer core count in that context
Budget#8265: Ive done one build for someone and XFR2 made it beat the i7 Office PCs he was used to
Un karr#9168: ah so you saw the calamity we had
Budget#8265: only briefly |
Un karr#9168: yea well i asked the guy and turns out he just gonna keep the pc he is 'borrowing' from me
DarknessFalls229#2286: is it a good thing or a bad thing that he is keeping it?
Budget#8265: ^
Muse#0557: T9400
Muse#0557: Isn't that like C2D mobile kek
Muse#0557: Nobody is buying a core 2 duo laptop for more than $100
Alcyone#2233: I wouldn't buy one at all.
DarknessFalls229#2286: but here the mans taking advantage of people like the big tech are
Un karr#9168: its not a good thing that hes keeping it
Un karr#9168: i was planning to sell that machine to get some of da moneyz but now he thinks he can keep it
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Oh god x2
Un karr#9168: i used one of these cases and ngl its pretty trash https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/775722899293339648/9k.png
Un karr#9168: only thing good about it is probably expansion.
DarknessFalls229#2286: why not just say "hey if youre keeping it you gotta pay for it aswell"?
Un karr#9168: well i have tried to say that but he keeps saying, oh dont worry ill bring it back in a week |
DarknessFalls229#2286: hmmmmmm okay
Gamefreak924#5901: Okay so I need opinions
Gamefreak924#5901: Do I try to sell the laptop in basic used condition with a charger for $100, or refurbished with upgrades for at least $150
Gamefreak924#5901: The cost from me is about $75 and $120 respectively (accounting for shipping costs in the price)
Gamefreak924#5901: *regretting decision noises*
Xbox 360 1953#2640: remote brick the pc
Un karr#9168: gud idea, if only the guys hadnt wiped my system clean
JustinXenyx#8854: > The cost from me is about $75 and $120 respectively (accounting for shipping costs in the price)
@Gamefreak924 i think you'd be better off saving the money
JustinXenyx#8854: $150 is literally quad core sandy bridge laptop money and that investment is too high for a dinky old Pentium netbook
Gamefreak924#5901: I guess I won't make the same mistake in the future
Gamefreak924#5901: Bought a bunch of these for any laptops I refurbish https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/775749551570419802/image0.jpg
Gamefreak924#5901: $55 for 3
Muse#0557: Isn't that like retail
Muse#0557: Mish fella whyd you buy that netbook |
Gamefreak924#5901: It's $20 for one. So it's not too bad. And which? The 1011? Or are you asking about the Lenovo?
Muse#0557: The one you want a t9400 in
Gamefreak924#5901: Lenovo Y430. I wanted to try to upgrade it and sell it as a test run for something like a small business venture
Dogecode#7321: yeah like we’ve been saying should’ve gone with at least something socket g1 (1st gen i-series) based
Dogecode#7321: people look at core 2 duo and think old, and they’re not wrong
Dogecode#7321: It’s tough to turn a profit on those old systems with how cheap the early i3/5/7 systems are
Gamefreak924#5901: ouch
Dogecode#7321: I’ve still had only one person seriously ask me about my c2q dells that I’m selling for $200 and that person cancelled because they ended up getting a macbook from somebody
Gamefreak924#5901: It's just hard trying to find old systems up for sale near where I live. Also, dang
Dogecode#7321: And those systems are ahead of the laptop by a fair margin in terms of performance
Gamefreak924#5901: I still think netbooks might be a decent investment if I can find the right models to look for
Gamefreak924#5901: The biggest problem with the 1011s are that the battery often is completely dead and OEM ones are at least $25 if you can even find them
Dogecode#7321: yeah also that
Dogecode#7321: Most older laptops like that tend to last an hour or an hour and a half tops on the original battery these days
Gamefreak924#5901: Yeah I mean completely dead. As in- they don't work |
Dogecode#7321: yeah I said tops
Dogecode#7321: results may vary
Gamefreak924#5901: true true
Dogecode#7321: I’m just going off the majority I’ve seen from around then
Gamefreak924#5901: If I start seeing the value of 1011s go up, I'll put more money into the idea. I'm thinking of replacing the LCD back cover with different colors to sell them. Most of them sold are in black, but I saw a red one sell for $100
Gamefreak924#5901: So that might be the key
Dogecode#7321: good luck finding that part for cheap
Gamefreak924#5901: found one with some scratching for $15
Dogecode#7321: ppl on ebay and such offload that kind of stuff for almost as much as the laptop itself
Gamefreak924#5901: https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Dell-Inspiron-Mini-1011-Laptop-LCD-Top-Back-Cover-Lid-N920P-Blue-LED-Tested/392726006157
Gamefreak924#5901: one in ugly blue for $5 new
Gamefreak924#5901: yeah it's easy to make my money back, but hard to make profit it seems
Gamefreak924#5901: I'm not sure how to get around it
Dogecode#7321: There’s three kinds of deals
Dogecode#7321: a bad deal where you lose money |
Dogecode#7321: a good deal for you but not necessarily one that you can make money back on
Dogecode#7321: example would be an old corolla, they’re reliable but realistically you probably won’t get much more than the $1-2k you got it for if you try and sell it
JustinXenyx#8854: > It’s tough to turn a profit on those old systems with how cheap the early i3/5/7 systems are
@Dogecode especially with how cheap sandy bridge laptops are now
Dogecode#7321: and then a deal for a profit
JustinXenyx#8854: like you can get i3 sandy laptops for 60-70 bucks
JustinXenyx#8854: like first gen intel is already kinda stupid to turn a profit on
JustinXenyx#8854: ideally you'd only be looking at sandy and up
Gamefreak924#5901: Maybe I can look into some higher end netbooks?
Gamefreak924#5901: I feel like it's an easier market to go into. Still niche enough to catch some deals, but known enough to know things can sell
JustinXenyx#8854: i think it's exactly the opposite of easy
JustinXenyx#8854: Netbooks aren't in the common interest anymore
JustinXenyx#8854: And netbooks never were really powerful
JustinXenyx#8854: anyone potentially interested in netbooks has a tablet
JustinXenyx#8854: because tablets do what netbooks tried to do, just much better |
Gamefreak924#5901: some people just want a super portable laptop I guess? I dunno
Gamefreak924#5901: I know I'm content with mine haha
JustinXenyx#8854: The market of super small laptops really dried out / is quite a niche now
Gamefreak924#5901: Tablets are okay, but can have their issues with things like compatibility or price
Gamefreak924#5901: I wonder what the Microsoft Surface market is like
Dogecode#7321: have you seen 8-Bit Guy's videos about it
Dogecode#7321: he used to buy and sell macbooks and stuff
JustinXenyx#8854: > I wonder what the Microsoft Surface market is like
Nothing to get into really
Dogecode#7321: emphasis on used to
JustinXenyx#8854: > I wonder what the Microsoft Surface market is like
Nothing to get into really
JustinXenyx#8854: Not much of a profit to turn and they suck for upgrading
Gamefreak924#5901: maybe XPS 13s are okay?
Gamefreak924#5901: but upgrade options on those are limited to the SSD |
Dogecode#7321: If you want to try buying and selling laptops though 8-Bit did have some good tricks
JustinXenyx#8854: You're probably only hurting yourself more by trying to focus on specific models or brands
Gamefreak924#5901: maybe? It just is easier for me to find a good focus
JustinXenyx#8854: see what you can get for decent prices, check what upgrades you can do to them and then check how much of a profit you could turn without being unrealistic/unreasonable
Gamefreak924#5901: well, simpler anyway
Dogecode#7321: Job lots on ebay seem to be the best way to go, you can get a bunch of old laptops at once for a cheap price
8-Bit always got the same laptop model so he could exchange parts between all the ones he had and learn how to work on them down to an exact science
Gamefreak924#5901: hm, I guess I can check into it
Gamefreak924#5901: I'm just worried about making an even bigger investment with a possibility of no turnover
Dogecode#7321: just stick to sandy bridge+ and you should be ok as long as you get a good deal
Gamefreak924#5901: okie doke. Thanks for tips!
Dogecode#7321: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-Of-3-Computers/402531312931?hash=item5db8bc6523:g:vfoAAOSwrYBfoeSd
Gamefreak924#5901: Guys I messed up on a laptop and installed windows 10 home. Is it possible to use a Pro key to activate Home?
Dogecode#7321: Try it
I think it should just upgrade your Home install to Pro |
Gamefreak924#5901: Nevermind I just went and got one of those prohibited activation keys from ebay for a couple bucks
Bwenfwake#6869: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/732597396646658048/775836534594338866/IMG_20201110_210951.jpg
Bwenfwake#6869: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/732597396646658048/775836515544596510/IMG_20201110_204536.jpg
Bwenfwake#6869: 4.53GHz on my E5 1680 V2
Deleted User#0000: That's a damn high frecuency for a cpu like that
Bwenfwake#6869: :Yessi:
DarknessFalls229#2286: beats out my stock R5 3600 in multi by a few points
Bwenfwake#6869: Ah nice
Deleted User#0000: Yup
DarknessFalls229#2286: weird, it beats it in R15 by a few points, but loses out in R20
Deleted User#0000: It easily beats my 2600x, although that's not an impressive feat for an 8 core 16 threaded cpu
DarknessFalls229#2286: (its literally 25% more cores and threads)
Bwenfwake#6869: huh, tbf R20 is really weird with it
DarknessFalls229#2286: perhaps the R7 1700 or 3700 would be a fairer comparison
Bwenfwake#6869: Like my single core barely changed in R20 whereas it did in R15 |
Bwenfwake#6869: But at the same time, it beats out a lot of CPU's that have been benched in CPU-Z lol
DarknessFalls229#2286: probably because its a more modern workload
Bwenfwake#6869: true true
Bwenfwake#6869: My CPU is closer to an 1800X in CPU-Z
Deleted User#0000: It's insane that an oced server cpu from 2012 can outperform modernish cpus
DarknessFalls229#2286: wait till you see my 771 xeons beat an i7 3770
Deleted User#0000: Although, it must use a shit Ton of power in the process
Bwenfwake#6869: I mean.... yeah at close to 180W that's no small number lol
Deleted User#0000: > wait till you see my 771 xeons beat an i7 3770
@DarknessFalls229 you'd need at least 2 for such a feat
DarknessFalls229#2286: yup
Bwenfwake#6869: but was indeed released in early 2013
DarknessFalls229#2286: i do
DarknessFalls229#2286: overclocked aswell
Deleted User#0000: Then it isn't too complicated to beat the 3770 |
Deleted User#0000: It would be brutally hard with one, next to imposible I would dare to say
DarknessFalls229#2286: hmmmm, i do have a QX9650 around
Deleted User#0000: A heavly overclocked core 2 quad can barely keep up with a second gen i5
Deleted User#0000: So there's no way One of them could beat an i7
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah, some of the progressions during that time are crazy
Deleted User#0000: Indeed, sandybridge was a True legend
Bwenfwake#6869: lol true true, something that got me was the difference between X58 and other stuff at the time ngl
DarknessFalls229#2286: but still impressive how i can overclock the first core 2 quad by 50%, going from 2.4 to 3.6GHz
Deleted User#0000: Actually, skylake isn't THAT much better than sandybridge
Bwenfwake#6869: lol yeah true
Bwenfwake#6869: I'm slowly trying to overclock an e6750 atm
DarknessFalls229#2286: theres a point where you just kinda get stuck (on 14nm)
Bwenfwake#6869: lol, intel have been there and done that many times hahahahaha
DarknessFalls229#2286: if you got a decent board just pump 1.45v into it and start upping the FSB
Bwenfwake#6869: tru tru, I've got a decent board |
Bwenfwake#6869: lemme find the name of it
DarknessFalls229#2286: what board you got?
Bwenfwake#6869: https://www.msi.com//Motherboard/support/P6N_SLI_Platinum
Bwenfwake#6869: Got an MSI P6N SLI Platinum
DarknessFalls229#2286: ehhh, it only has a 4 phase
Bwenfwake#6869: ik but at £20 I couldn't say no to that haha
DarknessFalls229#2286: my three ASUS boards all have 8 phases
Bwenfwake#6869: oh damn
Bwenfwake#6869: tbf, I've spent loads of money on my X79 rig so that's my excuse lmao
DarknessFalls229#2286: though one of them is having instability issues
DarknessFalls229#2286: i simply accumulated them over the years
DarknessFalls229#2286: also got some baller EVGA board for p55
DarknessFalls229#2286: but anyway, for 775 overclocking its usually just a game of upping voltage and FSB
DarknessFalls229#2286: with one of my boards i was able to do a cinebench run with 3.78GHz running on my Q6600 **On Auto Voltage**
Bwenfwake#6869: holy moly wow |
DarknessFalls229#2286: that was wacky and unstable
Bwenfwake#6869: auto voltage haha
DarknessFalls229#2286: the thing is, im having a hard time getting a good feel what voltage that board does
DarknessFalls229#2286: i should do more overclocking sessions
DarknessFalls229#2286: i mean i got 13 Q6600s
DarknessFalls229#2286: i can literally bin them
Deleted User#0000: Ooof 13
Bwenfwake#6869: tbf, I've had a real time struggling to get my x79 rig to do a stable voltage so i don't blame you lol
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Deleted User why oof?
Deleted User#0000: I was just surprised
DarknessFalls229#2286: well i bought them at 1 euro a piece
DarknessFalls229#2286: so dirt cheap really
Deleted User#0000: Oh
Deleted User#0000: Indeed
Deleted User#0000: I'll get a core 2 duo e8600 at some point for my Linux pc |
DarknessFalls229#2286: then i also found that there was a difference between rev. 05B and rev. 05A
DarknessFalls229#2286: 05A gets much better clocks
DarknessFalls229#2286: from my experience the 8000 series CPUs clock like shit
Deleted User#0000: Yeah
Deleted User#0000: I know
DarknessFalls229#2286: best i got on my Q8400 was 3.33 GHz
Deleted User#0000: It's for a basic hp low power system
DarknessFalls229#2286: while my Q6600 does 3.78GHz on auto voltage :Hahahahaha:
Deleted User#0000: So getting a "high end" core 2 duo makes Sense
Deleted User#0000: To my case
Deleted User#0000: That hp wont accept 95w quads
Deleted User#0000: Maybe a q8400s would do
Deleted User#0000: But I'll take the safe route
Deleted User#0000: u can get an 80w tdp xeon
Deleted User#0000: hp says it won't detect any cpu that uses more than 65W |
Deleted User#0000: keep in mind, it's one of those super compact hp's
zwect#1210: i wanted to ask if this little "crack" is really a crack and if it is, then is it dead for real? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/775894144950206525/20201110_222520.jpg
zwect#1210: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/775894189321355304/20201110_222442.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/775894189702774834/20201110_222429.jpg
zwect#1210: that top right corner is just paste over it
zwect#1210: and for context, it's a 5850M
zwect#1210: ~~i think it is~~
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Honestly I can't see anything
Lady Mipha#0611: i would say it’s depends on how hard it was hit there
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Ah I see it now
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: You are probably fine
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Get a piece of paper and clean the thermal paste plz
primo007#7071: It doesnt look like it did too much damage, it should be fine
The United States Air Force#7904: @mi3night give me money
The United States Air Force#7904: or ebay
mi3night#2562: #💻normal-chat💻 |
The United States Air Force#7904: lol
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @D.D.M
D.D.M#8226: so this website is from my country
D.D.M#8226: https://www.anhoch.com/
D.D.M#8226: and i need it to atleast have a gtx 1650 as i am planing to game on it
D.D.M#8226: they have the best prices as far as i can tell
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: And the least products
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Maybe a few other websites? I just want to check them out
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: So under 800€?
D.D.M#8226: ye
D.D.M#8226: check this one out
D.D.M#8226: https://setec.mk/
D.D.M#8226: there is a button for english on the top left
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Amen for that
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Christ this website is even more jank |
D.D.M#8226: yes
D.D.M#8226: i know
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: The closest gaming laptop is £863
D.D.M#8226: can you give me link
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://setec.mk/index.php?route=product/product&path=10002_10003&product_id=48768
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: 9750H + 1650
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Not worth it IMO
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: The MSI seems to be the best
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: A little less CPU perf but better GPU
D.D.M#8226: ok
D.D.M#8226: and the legion laptop is out of stock
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Any other website? Just paste them all here
D.D.M#8226: hmm
D.D.M#8226: let me see
D.D.M#8226: https://ddstore.mk/?___store=en&___from_store=mk |
D.D.M#8226: those are all the major stores
D.D.M#8226: and many of the laptops are out of stock because people have been buying laptops for their children for school
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: How do I arrange by price in DDStore
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I don't speak vodka
D.D.M#8226: bruh
D.D.M#8226: idk
D.D.M#8226: this one is also even more janky
D.D.M#8226: https://ddstore.mk/computers-and-laptops/notebooks-and-accessories/notebooks.html?dir=asc&order=price
D.D.M#8226: here
D.D.M#8226: sorted by price
D.D.M#8226: there is an arrow on the right of the search bar that show descending and rising prices
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Well it's a lost cause
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Everything is out of stock
D.D.M#8226: yeah
Muse#0557: Fun fact |
D.D.M#8226: those are all the sites i know
Muse#0557: You can't buy items that aren't in stock
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: More like hard facts
Muse#0557: I'd say it's fun
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776020058921107486/IMG_20201108_120750.jpg
D.D.M#8226: i will ask around some people if they know any other websites
Muse#0557: Lads do you think it's okey to reuse this photo as long as i say the exact mobo and gpu model might change
D.D.M#8226: :thonkpad:
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Well maybe
D.D.M#8226: well if they look the same
D.D.M#8226: also the msi laptop to me seems to be the best proced
D.D.M#8226: priced
Muse#0557: Still a h61 board and dual fan 1060
Muse#0557: It'll function the exact same I just hate taking photos
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I can't find a review on the GP65 |
D.D.M#8226: you mean the gl65
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: There's the i7-10750H + 2060 version
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: But nothing on the 10300H
D.D.M#8226: yeah
D.D.M#8226: well
D.D.M#8226: i am considering the msi laptop
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Best choice IMO
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Tho if you have a little more cash I would suggest you get another 8GB RAM stick
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: For dual-channel
D.D.M#8226: yeah i have a spare one ready so thats good
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Sounds great
D.D.M#8226: cool
D.D.M#8226: thanks for the help
vegetal#8870: macedonia moment
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: What language do they speak in Macedonia |
vegetal#8870: macedonian
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Cryrillic languages are weird
vegetal#8870: they're quirky
D.D.M#8226: well whole balkan, poland and russia
D.D.M#8226: except albania
Kacpreusz#7656: I need a new phone and my budget is 600pln. Is a Redmi 9 a good option?
Deleted User#0000: llel rgb meme
Gamefreak924#5901: Someone just bought an M4800 from my work for $1800
Gamefreak924#5901: Haha
Muse#0557: Why is everyone there bad at buying laptops
mi3night#2562: The m4800 idk
mi3night#2562: But laptops are usually preference
mi3night#2562: I prefer in buying a xps or MacBook
mi3night#2562: I don’t really care about the specs of the machine
Gamefreak924#5901: Everyone there? You mean amazon shoppers? |
mi3night#2562: @Gamefreak924 what country again
mi3night#2562: cuz for around $1800 you can get something like this
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776160690566201344/unknown.png
Muse#0557: T2000 looks like a rebranded 1650 to me
Muse#0557: Cringe
Muse#0557: The rest is nice tho
Dogecode#7321: > I don’t really care about the specs of the machine
@mi3night I guess I'm the same way
DarknessFalls229#2286: how long did it take for you to write those words?
Dogecode#7321: It's more about how the laptop feels to daily than the actual specs since I don't usually run intensive stuff on them
Muse#0557: > I don’t really care about the specs of the machine
Isn't this the man who fanboys iPhone geek bench scores lmfao... Then doesn't care when specs actually matter 😶
Dogecode#7321: I'd rather have a laptop from 2015 with an excellent keyboard and stuff than a top end laptop with the best specs but a crappy screen and a bad typing experience
Alcyone#2233: benchmarking is fake, brought to you by Intel 2020
Muse#0557: Shut your whore mouth |
Muse#0557: Userbenchmark for life
Alcyone#2233: 4 threads is all you need
Muse#0557: 4
Muse#0557: Kek
Muse#0557: 1 core
Muse#0557: 2 threads
Muse#0557: Pentium 4 HT lads
Muse#0557: 🥵
Dogecode#7321: yes
DarknessFalls229#2286: i5 650 is all you need
Alcyone#2233: ddr4 800mhz ftw https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776166544668753961/unknown.png
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776166624818102312/Screenshot_20201109_024728_com.discord.png
Dogecode#7321: still need to finish my p4 build, waiting till I get another decent agp card to buy the case
Alcyone#2233: chad 66mhz fsb, pentium 1 would be proud https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776166773111783444/unknown.png
Muse#0557: Agp cards seem to be dying a lot |
Dogecode#7321: well they are 15-20+ years old
Alcyone#2233: agp is not worth it unless its older than 939
DarknessFalls229#2286: HD 3850 go BBRRRRRR
Alcyone#2233: just get a pcie board
DarknessFalls229#2286: why not both
Muse#0557: Honestly agp is like buying laserdisc
Muse#0557: Just no
Alcyone#2233: the best board for pcie+agp is trash
Alcyone#2233: asrock dual vsta or whatever its called
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah dual939-VSTA
DarknessFalls229#2286: ive been having AMD issues on it
Alcyone#2233: I use sandy for xp gaming now
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776167508750499861/IMG_20201107_105840.jpg
Muse#0557: Sandy
Alcyone#2233: sexy |
DarknessFalls229#2286: looks like a pretty good VRM
Dogecode#7321: a core 2 quad system would be cheaper and more period correct
mi3night#2562: @Muse it’s MXM or DGFF tho soooo
DarknessFalls229#2286: mine https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776167796727742514/ep55fullboardS.png
Muse#0557: Honestly I think being super period correct only matters for monitor and peripherals
Muse#0557: Ooo
Muse#0557: That board is hawt
Alcyone#2233: sandy can dual boot and also run as a secondary w10 gaming pc
Dogecode#7321: ^
Dogecode#7321: what I was about to say
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776167940926996490/image0.png
mi3night#2562: Idky but
mi3night#2562: This kinda triggers me
DarknessFalls229#2286: also this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776168019050233907/unknown.png
Alcyone#2233: pcie power for hongry multi gpu |
mi3night#2562: Yes but it’s a molex and it’s placed at a bad spot
mi3night#2562: It’s ok tho cuz no one uses multi gpu nowaday
MythologicalZ#3752: its not that bad
DarknessFalls229#2286: at least its placed in a location where it doesnt interfere with GPUs
MythologicalZ#3752: having it on the edge of the board like new rog is worse
MythologicalZ#3752: at least you can get at it if youre doing 4 way on that
Alcyone#2233: 1155 maximoose have 2 molex
mi3night#2562: I had a 1150 Maximus
MythologicalZ#3752: 4th card on something like an apex or r5e and you cant since overhang
Alcyone#2233: my friend has r4 gene, the bottom card covers the onboard buttons so you have to use the fpc header to start it
Alcyone#2233: great design
MythologicalZ#3752: indeed
DarknessFalls229#2286: my onboard buttons has LED in them
DarknessFalls229#2286: one power LED and one harddrive LED
DarknessFalls229#2286: is fancy |
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776169075281625088/image-1-compressed-18.jpg
Muse#0557: Lads
Muse#0557: But £150
Muse#0557: Rip
Muse#0557: Plus its pure wings 2 not silent 3
Muse#0557: 😔
Alcyone#2233: there now both of you can be triggered https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776169267619299328/unknown.png
Muse#0557: Was the first maximus 775?
MythologicalZ#3752: grrr
DarknessFalls229#2286: i think so
DarknessFalls229#2286: i think the first two were
Alcyone#2233: yes I think the maximus and rampage were x38/48 boards
Muse#0557: Mhm
Muse#0557: Yeh
Muse#0557: Rampage II and III were x58 |
Muse#0557: IV X79
Muse#0557: V X99
Muse#0557: Zenith is threadripper Equiv right
Alcyone#2233: iv black best
MythologicalZ#3752: m2f was p45
MythologicalZ#3752: I think original was x38
Muse#0557: > iv black best
Based
Muse#0557: What are the x299 rampages
Muse#0557: Ik there are atleast 2 versions of the VI
Alcyone#2233: dead
MythologicalZ#3752: 6 and encore I think
Muse#0557: Yeh
Muse#0557: 😔
MythologicalZ#3752: 6 is shit, encore is good but dark is better |
MythologicalZ#3752: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776169886086987846/lN73k8I5CvsLnQta_500.png
MythologicalZ#3752: really want to get one of these
Muse#0557: X299 dark is yum
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776169996463505428/151-SX-E299-KR_XL_5.png
Muse#0557: I love the top heatsink
MythologicalZ#3752: it is apparently not great for kabyx
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776170094572077106/X299_FTW-K-1.png
DarknessFalls229#2286: i dont like those tiny fans
Muse#0557: Ftw is also
MythologicalZ#3752: but thats not really a concern lol
Muse#0557: Really fucking cool
MythologicalZ#3752: ftw isnt anything special
Muse#0557: I love the heatsink designs on this more
Alcyone#2233: first dark? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776170178366930994/EVGA20X7920Dark20-20Top.png
Muse#0557: Combining the 2 designs would look the best |
MythologicalZ#3752: probably
MythologicalZ#3752: x58 was still classy
Alcyone#2233: I had the z370 ftw, it was totally shit
Alcyone#2233: returned it the first day
Muse#0557: I remember seeing x58 ftw ads in Burnout
MythologicalZ#3752: you are better off going with the new cheap msi pro boards that came with the 10k launch
MythologicalZ#3752: beefed vrm and ok io
MythologicalZ#3752: pcie layout is horrible though
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776170523833925652/160-CX-W999-KR_LG_1.png
MythologicalZ#3752: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776170597885149184/1024.png
MythologicalZ#3752: this is effectively the x99a sli plus for 2066
Alcyone#2233: I was gonna trade in for a z490m gaming pro and a 10600k, but i decided to just cool my jets until am5 and lga 1700
Muse#0557: > this is effectively the x99a sli plus for 2066
@MythologicalZ oo
MythologicalZ#3752: except ryzen is a thing so there are no reviews |
MythologicalZ#3752: but vrm is good for an oced 18c and the io is alright
Muse#0557: There is an sli plus and raider for x299 tho
MythologicalZ#3752: the sli plus and raider are garbage
Alcyone#2233: 3 mfgs made an oc board for 3647, the 12 people that own a w3175x have more choice than matx users
MythologicalZ#3752: the only pre refresh x299 msi you want to touch is the gpc but >14c and the xpower which is rare and expensive
Alcyone#2233: you benching in country cup myth?
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776171246290468905/c1d4-ga-x58a-ud9-big.jpg
MythologicalZ#3752: I havent even checked it out yet
MythologicalZ#3752: local team is planning a meet if covid doesnt get insane over the holidays
MythologicalZ#3752: I will be doing dice on x58 at the very least
Muse#0557: What is covid like there myth
Alcyone#2233: what was the giga x58 with the nb heatsink that took up a pcie slot
MythologicalZ#3752: x58 extreme iirc
MythologicalZ#3752: @Muse bad in the early stages, better now
Alcyone#2233: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776171734297608212/95e6-gigabyte-x58extreme.png |
Alcyone#2233: yep, thats the one
Muse#0557: Why
MythologicalZ#3752: I think watson has that one
MythologicalZ#3752: or he might have the ud9
Muse#0557: The colours
DarknessFalls229#2286: also the cosmo and wanda RAM slots
Muse#0557: Ayy
Muse#0557: Fairies
Alcyone#2233: ahhh I didnt get it
Alcyone#2233: now i do
Muse#0557: Old
MythologicalZ#3752: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776172055048880138/13-128-446-02.png
MythologicalZ#3752: I think the ud9 might have come with it too
DarknessFalls229#2286: wait
Alcyone#2233: I didnt really watch fairly old parents |
DarknessFalls229#2286: its detachable?
Alcyone#2233: i was a fairly old parent already
Muse#0557: Xl atx hours
MythologicalZ#3752: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776172260024909904/g1guerilla_1.png
Muse#0557: Have you guys seen the dominus extreme
MythologicalZ#3752: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776172372993507383/UTB8GrLPywQydeJk43PUq6AyQpXax.png
MythologicalZ#3752: I am pretty sure this one, the assassin, launched when 1155 was already a thing
Alcyone#2233: z68 assassin is the first board with MCE
MythologicalZ#3752: were a few super late giga 1366 launches
Muse#0557: This thing is a crime
read bio/description#8459: Why are you guys talking here and not in #💻normal-chat💻
DarknessFalls229#2286: because we talking motherboards
Alcyone#2233: this is also tech talk
read bio/description#8459: Oh
read bio/description#8459: So that's why normal chat is dead |
DarknessFalls229#2286: if you wanna join the party go ahead
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776172818869911602/91scBzbavqL._AC_SL1500_.jpg
read bio/description#8459: I'm just gonna leave this here
MythologicalZ#3752: the dominus isnt even good apparently
read bio/description#8459: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776172841460563998/414x0x1.jpg
Alcyone#2233: dominus delivery, your pizza is here
MythologicalZ#3752: one died on psycho and that one euro guy
Alcyone#2233: the launch dominus didnt even work
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah
DarknessFalls229#2286: thats how you dominate across the board
Alcyone#2233: they supposedly fixed it but I still hear its worse than the giga or evga board
MythologicalZ#3752: I havent seen anyone recently with the giga board but it originally had issues with sli not setting
MythologicalZ#3752: sr3 is apparently the only 100% usable one
Alcyone#2233: 3175x went from hot to not really quickly
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah |
MythologicalZ#3752: wonder if evga will make some amd stuff given the current situation
Alcyone#2233: that would be cool, havent been around since am2
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah I think it was a 590 board they had there
Alcyone#2233: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776173799304331354/13-188-016-04.png
Alcyone#2233: they had one lower end board that released with onboard graphics
Alcyone#2233: but that was the last decent amd evga mobo
MythologicalZ#3752: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776174003303219210/13-188-036-05.png
Alcyone#2233: 939 sli matx oddity https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776174162028134430/E145-2004-main2.png
Alcyone#2233: Jetway made the evga 939 boards
MythologicalZ#3752: looks pretty cool
MythologicalZ#3752: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776174710877847573/unknown.png
MythologicalZ#3752: first time Ive seen this graphic lol
Alcyone#2233: I was trying to get the jetway gt4 a while ago but everyone I found had blown caps
Alcyone#2233: lego motherboard https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776175058867191848/jetway.png
Alcyone#2233: These are intesting because they were from before automatic pcie lane switching but had no sodimm paddle, the slots are all wired to the cpu, you use the yellow for single gpu or the green for sli |
Alcyone#2233: they are supposed to fsb quite well for an sli nf4
Dogecode#7321: agp socket 775 board https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776176134676152360/iu.png
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Alcyone you could recap it, its not that hard from my findings
Alcyone#2233: through hole caps are easy but they were asking working board money and would not take my offer
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776176771842310144/09227207dff69f0f0e721a368f84c0d9.jpeg
DarknessFalls229#2286: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776176802145632296/939Dual-VSTAL1.png
Alcyone#2233: I just saw one of those rocket booster boards on jp yahoo auction
Dogecode#7321: yeah I want to recap one of my old boards to see if I can get it working
DarknessFalls229#2286: the kind of slots of this board is pretty interesting
Dogecode#7321: socket 478 from an old dell, unfortunately it won't turn on but I think its the caps since they look pretty rough
Alcyone#2233: if its a 478 oem I would just toss it
DarknessFalls229#2286: if caps look any kind of rusty you should replace them
Dogecode#7321: > if its a 478 oem I would just toss it
@Alcyone yeah but I could use the soldering experience anyway so I'll probably give it a shot
Alcyone#2233: my 8600 gt has caps from a dvd player on it |
DarknessFalls229#2286: my 9600 GT has a cap from a motherboard
DarknessFalls229#2286: but i should really replace it with something better
DarknessFalls229#2286: dunno the specs of the cap anymore though
Alcyone#2233: I save anything with polymer caps. might need them someday
DarknessFalls229#2286: ive plucked a PSU totally free of caps
Alcyone#2233: the 8600gt is normal electolytic caps though, didnt have any polymers with the correct rating
DarknessFalls229#2286: used some of those to replace mobo caps
DarknessFalls229#2286: feels oddly satisfying successfully replacing a cap
Alcyone#2233: I love it anytime I can make something work again
DarknessFalls229#2286: im buying a hot air station soon so ill be hoping to fix a few things here and there
DarknessFalls229#2286: replacing SMDs is gonna be shit-ass
Dogecode#7321: i also need to get around to recapping some of the caps on my old am2 board
Dogecode#7321: one of them has a bulge so they're probably on their way out
Alcyone#2233: ive never tried smd with hot air
Alcyone#2233: I have done one dirty with a soldering iron, it looked trbl but it worked |
Alcyone#2233: make sure you foil around the work area though, ive seen somebody blow other caps off the pads
DarknessFalls229#2286: what kinda foil do i need?
Alcyone#2233: just normal aluminum foil for a heatshield and to stop the airflow
Alcyone#2233: put it shiny side towards you
DarknessFalls229#2286: really? aluminium foil is enough?
DarknessFalls229#2286: alright then
Alcyone#2233: I need a cheap 480+gb nvme with dram cache so I can put my sata ssd in this guy. What are good options?
I know of the adata 8200 pro https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776180386761932801/IMG_20201007_074931.jpg
DarknessFalls229#2286: look in pinned messages i guess
Alcyone#2233: ahh thanks, that will do
DarknessFalls229#2286: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776183374057308161/86.png
DarknessFalls229#2286: excuse me wtf https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776183406353580032/86.png
Alcyone#2233: 2gb ddr3 gtx 780 :JellyBeanFace:
Deleted User#0000: late 2000s-early 2010s pc part design was on some shit
DarknessFalls229#2286: its probably a GTS 450/550(ti) like all fake cards are |
Dogecode#7321: saw one fake 1050 on ebay that was apparently a 670
Dogecode#7321: but the guy selling it might have been lying himself
Alcyone#2233: im guessing its a gts 450
DarknessFalls229#2286: a 670? that pretty decent for a faker
Alcyone#2233: I also wonder where all the gts 450 silicon comes from
DarknessFalls229#2286: probably e-waste / old stock
Alcyone#2233: there must have been a warehouse full of chips or something, they are like a decade old
Dogecode#7321: maybe they came across a warehouse of unsold stock
Alcyone#2233: could be ewaste as well I guess. maybe the gts 450 was the de facto internet cafe gpu
Dogecode#7321: because the boards themselves are usually new so they must have the bare chips kicking around
Alcyone#2233: yeah the pcb and ddr are much newer, they have chips coming from somewhere
Dogecode#7321: and I don't see why they'd go through the effort of desoldering and redoing everything if it was ewaste, they'd just slap a new cooler on the existing pcb and flash the bios and call it a day
Alcyone#2233: fake gpus have been a thing for a long time though
Deleted User#0000: i kind of want to build a pc with flashy ~2010 era parts
Deleted User#0000: idk what i would do with it though since i already have a decent pc |
Alcyone#2233: I remember seeing gf4 mx sold as fx 5200 and 5500 back in the day with fake device id
Yon#7961: since they're scammers
Dogecode#7321: oh nvm i can't read
Yon#7961: lol
Alcyone#2233: max flex 2010 would be like a x58 with 3 way gtx 480
Deleted User#0000: ya i was thinking X58
Alcyone#2233: would cost as much as a new pc to build in 2020
Dogecode#7321: but yeah some of the fx 5200s would be on par or worse than a geforce 4
Alcyone#2233: it was
Dogecode#7321: but higher number == better
Alcyone#2233: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/752286186667769947/776139155771228181/unknown.png
JustinXenyx#8854: @Alcyone I think there was a huge influx of old GTX450 / 550Ti / 650 stock which resulted in chinese sellers trying to upsell those cards to get them out again
Ramiere#1840: A friend of mine’s laptops storage is “full” but when she goes through all of its folders there’s nothing there anyone know the solution to this
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Download WinDirStat
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Open it up and select the drive |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Take a screenshot
Gamefreak924#5901: https://www.rca.com/us_en/tablets-25-us-en/windows-2-in-1-366-us-en/cambio-12-2-windows-2-in-1-tablet-166-us-en
Gamefreak924#5901: RCA makes tablet PCs
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Ok so genuine question
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Is it possible to OC my ram to 3200mhz with a first gen Ryzen processor?
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Because I recently updated my BIOS for the first time and I'm having a feeling that it might not fix the ram issue that I had for a while now
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Do your RAM sticks have a XMP profile?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @Rysing Dragoon
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Maybe?
Rysing Dragoon#5628: I never checked tbh
Rysing Dragoon#5628: I just assumed that updating my BIOS would probably fix it
Rysing Dragoon#5628: But now that I think about it, I'm feeling a little certain that there's something that I'm missing
Rysing Dragoon#5628: As in I'm too inept to understand what's happening
Rysing Dragoon#5628: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776292787292471296/20201111_225016.jpg
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Oh boy |
Rysing Dragoon#5628: I don't like that it's red
Rysing Dragoon#5628: I'm 99% positive that's not good
Rysing Dragoon#5628: What voltage should I decrease that to, if possible?
JustinXenyx#8854: XMP kits run at 1.35 all the time
JustinXenyx#8854: 1.3v is fine
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Alright
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Thanks
D.D.M#8226: Is this laptop good? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776494425241157652/Screenshot_20201112-181106_Edge.jpg
D.D.M#8226: Its 770€
TheFifthAce#4128: zz
Dogecode#7321: no
Dogecode#7321: get a old cheap sandy bridge laptop for on the go and invest your best specs in a desktop. you'll save money plus you'll get better performance and thermals in games on the desktop.
haha#4972: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8LWxsX this is pretty much the OzTalks 500$ pc with a few small changes. The cpu, gpu and ram will all be from cex, rest is amazon. Any thoughts? first pc build so help will be appreciated
mi3night#2562: @haha you don’t need a cpu cooler as the one that comes with the cpu is good enough and switch out the a400 for a better ssd like a mx500
mi3night#2562: The a400 has reliability issues |
mi3night#2562: Mx500 256gb should be around 35 quids try to find out
mi3night#2562: Switch out the gpu for a rx580 as that can be had for 100 quid give or take and it can outperform it
haha#4972: right cheers
haha#4972: i did see a reddit thread about cex not giving u the stock cooler tho
mi3night#2562: If it’s new then it must have a stock cooler
mi3night#2562: But if it’s used then you have to call them
haha#4972: aight
layton#0621: this is kinda urgent
layton#0621: i somehow managed to get a virus, how do i change a files permissions so i can delete it and stop it from running https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776551552977862687/unknown.png
layton#0621: it's in my appdata folder
D.D.M#8226: Try booting into a linux install and find the file and delete it
D.D.M#8226: Since linux cant see those perms
layton#0621: will it work with live disk
D.D.M#8226: Yeah
D.D.M#8226: That's what I am saying |
D.D.M#8226: And then try the windows defender offline scan
DarknessFalls229#2286: you may be able to do it in the security tab in properties @layton https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776552729195446303/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: safe mode
Clode#2428: if i was to buy a ps2 or a ps3 today should i replace the termal paste?
primo007#7071: Does anyone know of any good CPU bechmarks that can take advantage of 2 cpus?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @D.D.M Get the chad MSI we talked about earlier
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: But let me check the lenovo a little bit
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Hey it may not be too bad
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Well the IO range is not that good
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: And the screen too
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: But the cooling seems to be up to scratch
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: And a good battery life, 6 hours or so
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: There's 1 display output and it's HDMI
Dogecode#7321: @Clode if you can do it safely, yes
Dogecode#7321: especially for a ps2 |
Dogecode#7321: ik on the og xbox the paste ends up burned on over the years and becomes basically useless and a PITA to clean off
Alcyone#2233: ps2 doesnt have paste, its a thermal pad
Alcyone#2233: ps3 does have paste and also needs delidded
Dogecode#7321: yeah I was just finding that out
Dogecode#7321: but yeah ps3 does
Alcyone#2233: I have a ps3 fat, it always started overheating even after repaste. popped the ihs off and repasted internal tim on cell+rsx, been running great for 2 years
Dogecode#7321: i mean
Dogecode#7321: there's probably paste/tim under the ihs that has gotten old too
Alcyone#2233: yes that is the main problem with ps3
Alcyone#2233: the delid procedure is pretty sketch too
Dogecode#7321: yea since you can't just take out the cpu
Alcyone#2233: cpu is ez, gpu you have to pry the ihs off
Dogecode#7321: do old cpus/graphics cards have the same issues
Dogecode#7321: i haven't heard much about it
Alcyone#2233: i used a colored pencil as a fulcrum and a butterknife so it would flex like a spring. blasted it with the heatgun until it popped off |
Alcyone#2233: fermi and tesla https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776589934630666260/IMG_20200919_110114_burst_02.jpg
Alcyone#2233: it doesnt seem to be as much of a problem on gpus, but I did see gains replacing internal tim on these too, and even better results running bare die with an aftermarket cooler
zwect#1210: 6970M MXM
salvageable or F? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776595404749668352/20201112_205137.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776595405445136401/20201112_205201.jpg
zwect#1210: the rest of the board is perfect, it's just that bit that is f'ed off
zwect#1210: bent.
zwect#1210: a little
JustinXenyx#8854: Probably salvageable
JustinXenyx#8854: but worth it? fuck no lmao
zwect#1210: oh
JustinXenyx#8854: it's a Terascale card
zwect#1210: there's like a bunch of cards that they gave to my father, we are thinking of reviving a dead GPU'ed M17X R2 with an 820QM and 8gb ram
JustinXenyx#8854: to break the truth easy to you, they suck super fucking bad
zwect#1210: ik |
zwect#1210: but the other 2 are even worse
zwect#1210: a GTX 260 and an 5850
zwect#1210: the 7970 that was coupled with the alienware killed itself from too much temperature
zwect#1210: couldnt even live running shitty games lol
zwect#1210: just wanted to know a datasheet or something for the MXM pcie connector
zwect#1210: so i could identify what that part is and if it can work without a bit of it
zwect#1210: i highly guess it wont but just wanted to be sure
zwect#1210: its better to have that than an worse-than-HD4000 gpu on that thing
zwect#1210: oh
JustinXenyx#8854: the 2 larger copper tabs are for power iirc, the more important thing will be that little bit of the PCB missing
zwect#1210: seems like they are from the power source lane
zwect#1210: yeah
zwect#1210: but if it "luckily" works after trying to unbend it a little bit, should i just limit it's power limit like 10% or 15% on afterburner or someshit?
zwect#1210: idk if that really fucks up its energy in
zwect#1210: plus that missing bit |
JustinXenyx#8854: if you set the power limit that low you might just skip installing the card entirely
JustinXenyx#8854: realistically speaking, i wouldn't see it as a MAJOR issue
JustinXenyx#8854: however i would still be careful in trying to test the card
zwect#1210: oh ok
zwect#1210: and no i said like 10% LESS
zwect#1210: like in total running it at 90% or so
zwect#1210: my english is a bit confusing sometimes
zwect#1210: welp
he said he doesn't wanna get that one to work so i'll just test the 5850m and use it for a while
we are having some energy bill problems and i can't use my pc anymore
zwect#1210: happily its temporary
zwect#1210: well
zwect#1210: 5850m Dead
zwect#1210: 1 long beep then 2 beeps
zwect#1210: should i risk the 6970M the way it is or it can short circuit some shit? @JustinXenyx |
JustinXenyx#8854: well there is a possibility of short circuit because of the PCB damage
JustinXenyx#8854: you really don't want chipped PCBs on multi-layer PCBs like motherboards and video cards
JustinXenyx#8854: and since we don't know what goes where and how it goes, there is a potential for an internal PCB short circuit caused by the chipping
zwect#1210: that dent on the pci connector is the chipping itself?
JustinXenyx#8854: I'm more referring to the edge that's slightly "chewed" off on the second pic you sent
zwect#1210: oh
zwect#1210: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776643758438875156/20201113_000427.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776643759081390091/20201113_000436.jpg
zwect#1210: well
zwect#1210: thats sad
and i cant see any details that indicate the other is dead
zwect#1210: oh yeah, the crack on the die
JustinXenyx#8854: > however i would still be careful in trying to test the card
which is why i said to be careful with trying to test the GPU, because we don't have an idea of how the PCB is layed out and how that "chewed" edge affects the PCB
zwect#1210: and i dont wanna risk that laptop neither
JustinXenyx#8854: and it's not worth breaking a laptop to test a 6970M, even if it just a 1st gen Intel Core |
JustinXenyx#8854: that piece of shit is so mediocre now thanks to absolutely god awful drivers that i've hacked my 6970M samsung laptop into a fancy web browing + discord machine
JustinXenyx#8854: like my GT630 Q6600 Dell Optiplex is more capable because the drivers actually work properly
zwect#1210: oh lol
zwect#1210: the GTX 260 will be like that anyway
zwect#1210: just a 210 on an old i7 since i've seen it's score and it sucks fsr
JustinXenyx#8854: well the 260M will be slower, but it'll actually be usable
JustinXenyx#8854: so much shit just instable or breaking because AMD left the drivers in a fucked state
zwect#1210: hopefully, i don't even know if it works either
zwect#1210: there is an 670M but theres a whole thing missing so F
zwect#1210: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776645233945214997/20201113_001041.jpg
JustinXenyx#8854: I've had to fuck around on my laptop with drivers so much, because it literally won't boot with the native 120Hz screen anymore unless i pray to the gods and eat a can of peanuts until it works without plugging in a second screen
> so much shit just instable or breaking because AMD left the drivers in a fucked state
zwect#1210: lol
zwect#1210: the 7970M that was here didn't boost clocks and manage the fan neither
zwect#1210: it killed itself because of that |
JustinXenyx#8854: Actually that 670M looks fine
zwect#1210: wait what?
JustinXenyx#8854: Maybe a little dusty but there's nothing missing
zwect#1210: what about that whole shit missing?
JustinXenyx#8854: the VRAM chips are a red herring
JustinXenyx#8854: they never were there in the first place
JustinXenyx#8854: and PCBs are never fully populated
zwect#1210: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776645663236423680/JPEG_20201113_001238.jpg
zwect#1210: im talking about this
zwect#1210: ive searched for photos of it
JustinXenyx#8854: oh what on earth lmao
JustinXenyx#8854: never mind then, i totally overlooked that
zwect#1210: and there should be 4 of those black squares
zwect#1210: eh
zwect#1210: and i highly doubt it would even turn on without them |
zwect#1210: ahem
explode
zwect#1210: if there was another 260 i would sli them and play whatever would support it
there is the sli ribbon still here lol
zwect#1210: bridge*
JustinXenyx#8854: But to be quite frank with you
JustinXenyx#8854: that PCB damage was caused by user error
JustinXenyx#8854: the card didn't blow up there
zwect#1210: i know
zwect#1210: someone removed that to fix another one or sum
zwect#1210: well, that's what my father guessed
zwect#1210: but wow didnt they remove it with the wrong tool
JustinXenyx#8854: My guess would go more towards "oh fuck oh shit oh fuck i dropped something on it"
JustinXenyx#8854: because if they had taken that off to repair something else it would just be missing
JustinXenyx#8854: not have half the PCB taken with it |
zwect#1210: that would be the bent one
which was from a freaking iMac
i just think about the suffer to make drivers work
zwect#1210: since some forums said the 7970M that wasnt from Dell was shit in alienware devices to work
zwect#1210: and the one i had wasnt xd
zwect#1210: that might explain
zwect#1210: anyways
my 7 aged bro will be happy to play 1.16.4 on this if the 260 works
JustinXenyx#8854: if that 7970M came out of an iMac for example i could see why it doesn't manage thermals
JustinXenyx#8854: because the iMac would do it for the 7970M
zwect#1210: i blew up an fan because of hwinfo
zwect#1210: had to boost 5k rpm because the gpu was too hot even for the heatsink
zwect#1210: there were some hard mods from an MSI laptop's heatsink to make it work perfectly
zwect#1210: but im from Brazil so yeah impossible.
zwect#1210: that 6970M costs a fucking 2070 here |
zwect#1210: the used market here is autistic
JustinXenyx#8854: MXM cards are always super unreasonably priced
JustinXenyx#8854: nobody would buy a 6970M for 2070 money
JustinXenyx#8854: and nobody does
zwect#1210: if there was an way to make an EGPU with this MXM B connector it would be easier
zwect#1210: but idk why no one have done that yet
JustinXenyx#8854: Actually, jokes on you: I've looked into multiple possible ways of doing that
zwect#1210: ohhh god
JustinXenyx#8854: Just that everything i've come up with is quite theoretical since i cannot order stuff from Taobao
zwect#1210: F
JustinXenyx#8854: and it would be limited to PCIe x4
zwect#1210: yeah that would be a little pointless since these mxm's are 16x right?
zwect#1210: correct me if iam wrong
JustinXenyx#8854: well lets put it bluntly
JustinXenyx#8854: even a 1030 with PCIe x4 smokes a 6970M |
zwect#1210: LOL
zwect#1210: that's not even a joke, i've compared these stuff on passmark
zwect#1210: that's kind of funny
JustinXenyx#8854: well the even more ironic thing is that the 1030 is natively wired to PCIe x4
zwect#1210: PFFT
JustinXenyx#8854: that's its *full* bandwidth
zwect#1210: 260 is what?
HD 3000 perf?
zwect#1210: let me see that shit
JustinXenyx#8854: Hard to give an accurate comparison because of the driver situation
zwect#1210: oh ok its actually a little faster
zwect#1210: > Hard to give an accurate comparison because of the driver situation
@JustinXenyx oh yeah there's that
JustinXenyx#8854: > yeah that would be a little pointless since these mxm's are 16x right?
even at a PCIe 2.0 x4 it makes more sense to buy a higher end GPU and use it like that instead of buying the MXM equivalent card and starving it to death with weak cooling |
Dogecode#7321: how does terascale work on linux? the drivers there are open source so the bugs would've probably gotten fixed
JustinXenyx#8854: > how does terascale work on linux? the drivers there are open source so the bugs would've probably gotten fixed
@Dogecode not much better actually
zwect#1210: GT 540M
JustinXenyx#8854: It's more stable i'll give you that
JustinXenyx#8854: but i couldn't even select or enable 120Hz for my display on Linux
zwect#1210: what can a gt 540M limited to dx10 even do hmmm
JustinXenyx#8854: 540M is DX11 actually
JustinXenyx#8854: and it can technically run DX12 too
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: > that 6970M costs a fucking 2070 here
@zwect Taobao for lyfe
JustinXenyx#8854: it'll run minecraft for sure
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Optifine
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Will help out a little bit
zwect#1210: yeah |
zwect#1210: theres Sodium too
JustinXenyx#8854: Oh yeah worst case you use Optifine and stuff like Sodium
zwect#1210: with is better than optifine
JustinXenyx#8854: lol jinx
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: What CPU do you have @zwect
zwect#1210: 820QM
zwect#1210: i7
JustinXenyx#8854: or at least that is the CPU the laptop has
zwect#1210: yeah
zwect#1210: i didnt have thermal paste
zwect#1210: i had to pick the factory one that came with the 3600 i bought's cooler
zwect#1210: since i didnt use it
zwect#1210: so you know what i did.
zwect#1210: that, with the 5850m that is dead
JustinXenyx#8854: *you bought thermalpaste* |
zwect#1210: no
JustinXenyx#8854: *because using tooth paste is bullshit*
Xbox 360 1953#2640: oh no
zwect#1210: wait
zwect#1210: the one that comes on the Wraith cooler is bad?
Dogecode#7321: use mustard
JustinXenyx#8854: oh no lmao
Xbox 360 1953#2640: you *what*
JustinXenyx#8854: i thought you didn't put thermal paste onto the 820QM
zwect#1210: NOOO
JustinXenyx#8854: the paste on the wraith is 100% fine
zwect#1210: im talking about the 5850M
zwect#1210: that is trashed
zwect#1210: just because of that crack on the die
Xbox 360 1953#2640: i never bought a cpu nib, do they come with paste aside from preapplied? |
zwect#1210: idk
JustinXenyx#8854: No, the cooler has it preapplied @Xbox 360 1953
Xbox 360 1953#2640: then howd you get it on
JustinXenyx#8854: mounting the cooler dingus
JustinXenyx#8854: that's why you're never supposed to touch the coolers bottom side if you want to use the thermal paste
zwect#1210: just to give me some hope
zwect#1210: could dust or some shit cause the gpu to triple beep?
zwect#1210: or its for sure, dead, if the laptop says so?
JustinXenyx#8854: well a dirty MXM slot might
zwect#1210: hmm
zwect#1210: ill try that
zwect#1210: im feeling real sad ill have to use a 260 for some time
not because i want some dx11 games but i wanted cs go to atleast 80 fps or sum
zwect#1210: not 40
zwect#1210: that is, i didnt see it at 4:3 800x600 which some people use |
JustinXenyx#8854: CS:GO is still DX9 and should actually perform decent enough with a 260
JustinXenyx#8854: the bigger culprit will be the CPU
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: You can OC it IIRC
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Try ThrottleStop
JustinXenyx#8854: not first gen stuff
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Look up the Notebookreview forum
JustinXenyx#8854: you can only really fuck with that stuff starting with haswell on locked chips
JustinXenyx#8854: prior to that you're shit out of luck
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: ThrottleStop is also for C2D and first gen too
JustinXenyx#8854: won't bite on mobile parts charlie
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Hmm lol
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I tried on a T7500
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Can undervolt it a bit
zwect#1210: that 820QM even handled fucking Danger Zone at 70 FPS on the 7970M
zwect#1210: i highly doubt it cant push even 100 FPS with a decent GPU |
zwect#1210: it is indeed worse than even a 4210U but well
zwect#1210: i mentioned that i5 because i have some personal HATE with that thing
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It's a simp i5
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: 15W 2c/4t
zwect#1210: well
gotta try again the 5850
zwect#1210: yeah 2c
zwect#1210: f
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I have one too
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: But i5-7200U
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: A few months later they released the 8th gen CPUs
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: :haha:
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: In any case try ThrottleStop and see if it works
zwect#1210: bruh
zwect#1210: fck it |
zwect#1210: i guess only 4 hours a day on my normal pc is better than this
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/overclocking-i7-820qm.503411/
zwect#1210: the amd one is really ded
ill atleast test the 260 n shit
zwect#1210: oh
zwect#1210: why would i overclock that
zwect#1210: if i can oc that 260?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: GTX 260
zwect#1210: M
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Wow
zwect#1210: yeah
zwect#1210: rock age
zwect#1210: i dont even wanna see the abysmal perfomance
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: What's the model of the Alienware again?
zwect#1210: M17X R2 |
zwect#1210: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776653754157760512/Screenshot_20201113-004441_Chrome.jpg
zwect#1210: also
i wanted to ask
zwect#1210: will THIS even work? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776654202608943124/20201113_004614.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776654203278983178/20201113_004618.jpg
zwect#1210: i dont know what the fuck that gpu is
zwect#1210: since the die is scratched
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Look at the PCIe connections lol
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Clean it
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It's so dirty
zwect#1210: ik but
what about the capacitors idk what those are called
Dogecode#7321: looks pretty dirty but it's probably intact
zwect#1210: they look like missing
zwect#1210: what??
zwect#1210: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776654725344264192/images_38.jpeg |
zwect#1210: look at the upper part of this one
zwect#1210: and oh found it
zwect#1210: its a Quadro FX3800M
zwect#1210: i think
zwect#1210: not really sure
zwect#1210: no, isnt
zwect#1210: but something on that league
zwect#1210: begins with N10E-G?X and i cant see the rest
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: GTX 285M
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32899426978.html
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: And how did you get so many MXM cards
Dogecode#7321: broken mxm cards
JustinXenyx#8854: I would highly avoid plugging that into anything @zwect
zwect#1210: from some friend of my father
JustinXenyx#8854: chipped inductors is a big no no |
zwect#1210: oh ok
zwect#1210: even the 6970 would be safer xd
zwect#1210: jokes aside
zwect#1210: none of these seem really useful for something so yeah
only the worst one out of them for some funny reason
zwect#1210: also
the 7970m is just artifacted, so reballing is an option but not worth it right?
JustinXenyx#8854: well you probably don't mean reballing but rather chucking it into the oven
zwect#1210: xd
JustinXenyx#8854: and chucking shit into the oven is A. unsafe if you use that oven for food and B. really doesn't fix shit
JustinXenyx#8854: it's super temporary and not worth it
zwect#1210: eh
zwect#1210: also
zwect#1210: windows 7 lite all the way then?
zwect#1210: i dont think w10 would be optimised for that shit |
zwect#1210: > windows 7 lite all the way then?
@zwect its what i got on the ssd i've put onto it lol
Dogecode#7321: i've had good luck with old cpus/gpus and w10
JustinXenyx#8854: Nah those OS tweaks really don't do much unless you have Pentium 4 type dogshit hardware
JustinXenyx#8854: anything semi-modern doesn't need those tweaked OS's
zwect#1210: oh
zwect#1210: but what about RAM usage
zwect#1210: ?
zwect#1210: i have an windows 10 that uses like 800MB
zwect#1210: when installed
JustinXenyx#8854: If you have more than 6GB you don't need to bother
zwect#1210: ok then
zwect#1210: yeah, it has 8
zwect#1210: dual channel
Dogecode#7321: I've used windows 10 with just 4gb before |
Dogecode#7321: though I wouldn't go any lower than that, that or above you should be ok
JustinXenyx#8854: 4GB is tolerable for just web browsing
JustinXenyx#8854: but 6GB is the absolute lowest for any type of acceptable gaming
Dogecode#7321: yeah ideally youll have more
Dogecode#7321: but you can get by with 4gb
Dogecode#7321: thats about the absolute minimum though, any less and you start to hit limits since w10 likes to have about 2gb to itself by default
zwect#1210: lol
zwect#1210: got it
zwect#1210: wait
zwect#1210: does dxcpl works on the 260 just for curiosity
zwect#1210: ?
zwect#1210: oh wait i dont think anyone else here would have tried that
JustinXenyx#8854: realistically speaking, the 260M (yes there is a difference) does support DX11 already
JustinXenyx#8854: so no need for a DX11 emulator
zwect#1210: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776659614279925850/JPEG_20201113_010802.jpg |
zwect#1210: is this sufficient?
zwect#1210: i have no other way of putting thermal paste because eh..eh..
JustinXenyx#8854: Not really
zwect#1210: fuck
zwect#1210: and the bad thing is that im gonna 100% it all time
zwect#1210: but safe to use?
zwect#1210: 65w i gues
zwect#1210: > 65w i guess*
@zwect
JustinXenyx#8854: I don't really think i'd call that save to use
JustinXenyx#8854: there isn't enough thermal paste to bridge the air gap between the GPU die and the cooler
zwect#1210: oh..
zwect#1210: so how could i put more?
zwect#1210: ohh i think there is a better way
zwect#1210: brb |
zwect#1210: HOLY
zwect#1210: found thermal paste
zwect#1210: the WORST one that exists i guess
zwect#1210: called "implastec" or some shit
zwect#1210: purely white stuff
zwect#1210: not even gray ish
zwect#1210: should i use that or try to pry the Wraith's paste with a bread tool?
zwect#1210: these ones u use to put paste on bread
zwect#1210: and toast
zwect#1210: @JustinXenyx i still think general thermals would be better with the wraith paste, or am i wrong?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: > anything semi-modern doesn't need those tweaked OS's
@JustinXenyx Windows 10 could use some debloating tho
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @zwect Just get an MX4 tube, will save you a lot of heat and hassle
zwect#1210: i dont have money for that lol
well |
my father wont want to buy
zwect#1210: for some reason (?)
zwect#1210: also
brazil
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Tell him his laptop would go up in flames
zwect#1210: xd yeah
zwect#1210: but wow the wraith paste isnt enough really?
zwect#1210: there's more from where i got that on the die there
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It might not be good
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Manufacturers will go to any length to save 5 cents on thermal paste
zwect#1210: oh
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: MX4 is like $5 and you can reuse it multiple times
JustinXenyx#8854: it's not bad paste @zwect
JustinXenyx#8854: getting it off the cooler and onto something else though is quite stupid
JustinXenyx#8854: you never scrape off enough paste |
zwect#1210: 12$
zwect#1210: mx4
zwect#1210: buying off internet
zwect#1210: > getting it off the cooler and onto something else though is quite stupid
@JustinXenyx sad
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Yeah
zwect#1210: ill try it off anyways
if the thermals get way bad i just left it off so they buy MX4
zwect#1210: and maybe
zwect#1210: apply it on my 3600
zwect#1210: because it gets to 70C easily with an AIO
JustinXenyx#8854: you must have used some shit paste to get 70C on an **AIO** with a 3600
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I sense high voltage
JustinXenyx#8854: or a shit AIO
zwect#1210: may be both |
zwect#1210: the AIO is an Maelstrom 120T
JustinXenyx#8854: that doesn't sound too bad
zwect#1210: oh
JustinXenyx#8854: no wait no
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Check your BIOS
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: The voltage settings
JustinXenyx#8854: until you remember that those coolers have been discontinued for a while and they're gonna be a solid bit old by now
> that doesn't sound too bad
zwect#1210: oh its the factory ones
zwect#1210: ill turn it on later after i get the laptop ready
zwect#1210: my table is f ed up
JustinXenyx#8854: older AIOs is a big no no because they'll have a lot of coolant evaporated off already which just hurts cooling performance dramatically
> until you remember that those coolers have been discontinued for a while and they're gonna be a solid bit old by now
zwect#1210: bruh
zwect#1210: it almost used to hit 80% |
zwect#1210: using like 60% or less on the CPU
zwect#1210: 80C*
zwect#1210: when closed case
zwect#1210: i opened it then boom
zwect#1210: GPU barely hit 60 and CPU 70 at the most
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Poor airflow?
zwect#1210: that 2070 strangely used to hit 73C
zwect#1210: > Poor airflow?
@Charlie Foxtrot probably
zwect#1210: my father doesnt likes airflow because it collects too much dust (?)
zwect#1210: so the case doesnt have any fan
zwect#1210: only the AIO and the GPU
zwect#1210: plus the PSU
JustinXenyx#8854: okay so we have either bad airflow, old AIO that runs like crap now, mediocre paste or all of them at the same time
zwect#1210: bad airflow is more than probably |
zwect#1210: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776666679769694218/JPEG_20201113_013607.jpg
zwect#1210: no fans at the front too*
JustinXenyx#8854: oh well i've found the culprit
JustinXenyx#8854: that radiator and fan are SUPER dusty
zwect#1210: ik but it was already that hot when we first built it
zwect#1210: CPU idle were like 50C
zwect#1210: i already tried fiddling with energy settings but not much
zwect#1210: i dont wanna fry that
zwect#1210: accidentally
zwect#1210: oh https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776670176987971584/20201113_014948.jpg
zwect#1210: just found that on one of the gpu's PCB
zwect#1210: would be an issue?
zwect#1210: im scared of turning this on for some reason
zwect#1210: the gpu is making a very low zzzzz sound
zwect#1210: seems like static of some sort idk |
zwect#1210: oh ok
zwect#1210: its not from the GPU
zwect#1210: so
can it run doom 3?
zwect#1210: or rather...crysis...
zwect#1210: k
zwect#1210: 260 works fine.
D.D.M#8226: @Charlie Foxtrot the chad msi sold out
D.D.M#8226: Now most gaming laptops are in stock after the 800€ mark
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: With the exception of that Lenovo?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Yeah but the IO is pretty limited and you can only output it using HDMI
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: What are the above €800 options?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-IdeaPad-Gaming-3i-15IMH05-in-review-Core-i5-at-full-throttle.480784.0.html
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Review for the Lenovo
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Pretty good actually |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/_processed_/6/9/csm_Lenovo_Ideapad_Gaming_3_15IMH05_Innereien_f9f3c7b408.jpg
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Almost exactly like my Acer
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Just a different 2.5 drive placement
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: 56% sRGB and 36% Adobe RGB for the screen
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: So no decent photo editing and video editing
mi3night#2562: theres no ideapad gaming 3 regulars? @D.D.M
mi3night#2562: 3 is ryzen4k
mi3night#2562: 3i is intel 10th gen
zwect#1210: now i cant install the 260M's driver
zwect#1210: because it was from an modified SLI
zwect#1210: and NONE of the nvidia drivers work
zwect#1210: and i cant use the only hope i have of a driver because i cant use compatibility tab and the driver is fucking made for XP
zwect#1210: how can i force install an nvidia driver onto it?
zwect#1210: through the "microsoft basic display adapter" thing
D.D.M#8226: @Charlie Foxtrot @mi3night if you want to look at what laptops they offer heres the links |
D.D.M#8226: https://www.anhoch.com/
D.D.M#8226: https://setec.mk/index.php?route=common/home
D.D.M#8226: they should be set in english
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @zwect You need to mod the drivers
zwect#1210: yeah
zwect#1210: i found a website that will help
zwect#1210: laptopvideo2go.com
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @D.D.M The Lenovo is your best shot IMO
zwect#1210: already found an f'ed up .inf for those cards to work
says i have to drop it on the original driver's extracted files
mi3night#2562: Yeah I’m not that fluent in that market
mi3night#2562: So I can’t really recommend something nice
D.D.M#8226: well i am not going to buy it immediately
mi3night#2562: Can you get something imported from UK
D.D.M#8226: no |
mi3night#2562: Germany ?
D.D.M#8226: heres the thing
D.D.M#8226: i am 16
D.D.M#8226: my parents dont allow me to import anything
mi3night#2562: Why not? That’s kinda dumb
mi3night#2562: Because covid?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: 2 websites I have searched
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Only the Lenovo is a viable option
D.D.M#8226: well since i live in a country thats not in the european union shipping and getting stuff imported is expensive
mi3night#2562: Ok I see
mi3night#2562: Yeah get the Lenovo
mi3night#2562: It’s a decent machine
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: One doesn't even bother getting a gaming laptop
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Just simp office laptops
D.D.M#8226: well i am not getting a laptop right now |
mi3night#2562: Or move to UK and live in cobs server basement
D.D.M#8226: bruh
D.D.M#8226: lol
mi3night#2562: Sleep inside his extra long servers
mi3night#2562: And use his server heat as a warm source
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: ~~Cobs is your sugar daddy~~
D.D.M#8226: maybe i will have a talk with my parents if could order the laptop
mi3night#2562: Wait for Christmas
D.D.M#8226: if the shipping price isnt high
mi3night#2562: There’s gonna be sale then
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @mi3night Best electronic stores in EU?
mi3night#2562: If you don’t need the laptop right now don get it
mi3night#2562: @Charlie Foxtrot no idea ask Justin
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: ^
mi3night#2562: You’re on the verge of holiday season |
D.D.M#8226: i am not buying it rn but i will need it for school as i am using my dads laptop
D.D.M#8226: which he needs for work
D.D.M#8226: most of the time
mi3night#2562: I see but still
mi3night#2562: Use his laptop for now
mi3night#2562: Wait until Christmas
mi3night#2562: You get something cheap
mi3night#2562: No buyers remorse
D.D.M#8226: kk i will see
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Yeah
mi3night#2562: I almost spent $800 on a xps too
mi3night#2562: But like nah I wait
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: $800 for an XPS 15?
mi3night#2562: 9570
mi3night#2562: 8750h 1050ti |
mi3night#2562: 4K and 97Wh
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Junk
mi3night#2562: Gay
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Bruh
mi3night#2562: It was a ultra book
D.D.M#8226: actually
D.D.M#8226: hold up
D.D.M#8226: i think i know 1 more website
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/776706146626043924/image0.png
mi3night#2562: I actually enjoy this thing
mi3night#2562: Despite the cpu is struggling
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Dual-core
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: J u n k
D.D.M#8226: i found this thing
D.D.M#8226: https://www.neptun.mk/categories/GAMING_LAPTOPI/ASUS-FX705DT-AU029-17-3--R7-3750H-16GB-512GB-SSD-GTX-1650-4GB |
mi3night#2562: 2c4t
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: No no no
mi3night#2562: No lol
mi3night#2562: 10300h>>>3750h
D.D.M#8226: its a another site from my country
mi3night#2562: Also it’s asus
mi3night#2562: Lenovo>asus
mi3night#2562: In terms of reliability and build quality
mi3night#2562: @D.D.M how much usd
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: This website actually looks decent
mi3night#2562: 46000 your money
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Where can I switch to € and English?
mi3night#2562: What country is that
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Macedonia
mi3night#2562: Oh no no |
mi3night#2562: $900 usd
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Under €800 is his budget
mi3night#2562: That asus is $881 usd
mi3night#2562: Avoid it like the plague
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Yeah
mi3night#2562: @Charlie Foxtrot it’s kinda funny how my 4.4ghz 3700x destroyed the 5.3ghz 10700k
mi3night#2562: Maybe a 5.4ghz 10700k can match me
mi3night#2562: If I have a 3800x I can overclock it to 4.5 or 4.6ghz
mi3night#2562: Breaking 2400 in cbr15 easy
D.D.M#8226: also that website doesnt have english
D.D.M#8226: and you cant switch to euros
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: If you delay buying now
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It is inevitable that the Lenovo will run out of stock
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: So maybe do what Midnight says, hold on a little bit more until Christmas
D.D.M#8226: ok |
mi3night#2562: @Charlie Foxtrot so basically I beat 9900k at 5.2ghz in my 4.4ghz 3700x
zwect#1210: none of the fucking modded drivers work
zwect#1210: can't i flash a bios already on this?
zwect#1210: should be simple with nvflash
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Do you have its stock vBIOS?
zwect#1210: i dont
zwect#1210: techpowerup doesnt have its BIOS neither
zwect#1210: its an Dell model
zwect#1210: GOD
zwect#1210: FOUND IT ON A FORUM
zwect#1210: hopefully it works
zwect#1210: its the only way i can cram a normal driver again
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Check the ID and other things
zwect#1210: can i flash a vbios without the driver?
zwect#1210: its from the board ID |
zwect#1210: pcb stuff
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: You only need a different GPU to run the display
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: NVFlash should detect the 260
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Remember to disable it in Device Manager first
zwect#1210: so
zwect#1210: how in a world i can run another gpu?
zwect#1210: its an laptop
zwect#1210: there isnt an integrated gpu for it
zwect#1210: anyway
zwect#1210: i got the bios file
zwect#1210: (stock one)
zwect#1210: how do i use nvflash?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Your laptop has only 1 MXM slot?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I have never used it before TBH
zwect#1210: it has 2 but ALL other gpu's are fucked up |
zwect#1210: this is the only one that works
zwect#1210: and it isnt even in a proper way
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: RIP
zwect#1210: the only thing i can do is risk this bios since the one already is useless
mi3night#2562: @zwect what laptop do u have
mi3night#2562: 2 mxm??
mi3night#2562: Jesus
zwect#1210: its an M17X R2
zwect#1210: alienware
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It's hopeless
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Unless you can find another usable GPU to power the display
mi3night#2562: Rn I just went like
mi3night#2562: Intel has more features
zwect#1210: i see that to use NVFLASH you need to use DOS
zwect#1210: so yeah, another usb drive.. |
mi3night#2562: Like C state, better VM support, and multi core temperature monitor
mi3night#2562: Can’t be found on ryzen
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Ryzen has C states too IIRC
mi3night#2562: Maybe some mobo havr c state but mine don’t
zwect#1210: b450 has?
zwect#1210: in my case, msi b450 gaming plus
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://zenstates.protonrom.com/
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: A little old
zwect#1210: oh
zwect#1210: looks like i can blind flash
zwect#1210: already to the real stock bios
mi3night#2562: I have b450 tomahawk max
zwect#1210: oh fuck
zwect#1210: seems like we dont have that c state thing
is that one of the reasons my 3600 go fucking 50C idling? |
zwect#1210: 1 - 0% CPU usage and it goes 45C or so
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: No
zwect#1210: oh ok
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Check your voltage
mi3night#2562: Yeah check voltage
mi3night#2562: MSI is retarded
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Auto = dumb
mi3night#2562: 1.50v
mi3night#2562: :yikes:
mi3night#2562: @zwect but no we don’t have c states
mi3night#2562: You have to do that manually
mi3night#2562: I think
mi3night#2562: Via software
zwect#1210: > Auto = dumb
@Charlie Foxtrot probably |
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