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exquisitedark#1117: yep DarknessFalls229#2286: however finding a decent one might be difficult, since your CPU doesnt have a consumer counterpart DarknessFalls229#2286: its JUST server exquisitedark#1117: yeah there were 3 options exquisitedark#1117: i will try the ram stress test, it might be the ram overheating but i am not sure DarknessFalls229#2286: HWinfo or HWMonitor might be able to tell RAM temperatures as these are server sticks. but with that board i doubt it a bit exquisitedark#1117: yeah it said my cpu is 742° DarknessFalls229#2286: hahaha exquisitedark#1117: if it's the ram fault then i will hook up a fan to it DarknessFalls229#2286: might be a good idea DarknessFalls229#2286: the hot exaust of the CPU might not help either exquisitedark#1117: okay the hwid shows the temps normally exquisitedark#1117: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/868598789542391848/unknown.png exquisitedark#1117: i think DarknessFalls229#2286: that cant be right
DarknessFalls229#2286: is the motherboard that bad? exquisitedark#1117: i think exquisitedark#1117: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/868599055524200518/unknown.png exquisitedark#1117: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/868599120879812648/unknown.png exquisitedark#1117: these are good DarknessFalls229#2286: looks alright DarknessFalls229#2286: now slam prime 95 on it with 6000MB RAM selected NecroFlex#9105: it's normal to show odd temps for some generic sensors NecroFlex#9105: or it sometimes shows temps for sensors that don't exists, so instead of showing nothing, it shows whatever odd response it got NecroFlex#9105: HWMonitor once showed my 9590 to be at -284°C NecroFlex#9105: i was actually impressed that i was still alive exquisitedark#1117: yeah they didn't move exquisitedark#1117: what do i press i got hte 95 exquisitedark#1117: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/868600935700639764/unknown.png DarknessFalls229#2286: i guess you can up Memory to use to 6000, but 5116 seems to be fine aswell
exquisitedark#1117: everything else fine? DarknessFalls229#2286: probably yeah, were not really testing CPU anyway DarknessFalls229#2286: otherwise you can probably use the Large FFTs preset exquisitedark#1117: 75 cpu 61 ram exquisitedark#1117: rising exquisitedark#1117: when is it critical DarknessFalls229#2286: i guess above 90, but it _should_ be able to run higher DarknessFalls229#2286: dont really think theres a universal max on RAM DarknessFalls229#2286: my FBDIMMs that run pretty hot dont even reach 90 exquisitedark#1117: 88 cpu 76 on ram DarknessFalls229#2286: not that great CPU temp i see exquisitedark#1117: i think i actually need a fan lol DarknessFalls229#2286: your system just needs to chill a bit better exquisitedark#1117: yup exquisitedark#1117: okay I'll shut it down now
exquisitedark#1117: i doubt that was the problem though exquisitedark#1117: because when it started lagging it wasn't nearly as hot to the touch exquisitedark#1117: is there any app i can use to toggle fans? or even better just toggle it on/off through desktop exquisitedark#1117: i added another fan but it's too loud RyuuKuro#7616: Speedfan rriot#6100: configuring it in the bios is always the best option D.D.M#8226: also depends on what type of fans you talking abt D.D.M#8226: i wouldnt modify fan speed of laptop fans D.D.M#8226: and on a desktop you can only change the speed of the fans with 4 fan pins exquisitedark#1117: 3 pins exquisitedark#1117: don't care about the speed i just wanna temporarily turn them off when not needed Lady Mipha#0611: looks at fan controllers LaeMat#0420: Hello, I booted up Manjaro to see I have *906* updates available, I haven't used it in a few months. When I try to update, the GUI instantly crashes trying to synchronize package databases, and trying "sudo pacman -syu" just doesn't update anything LaeMat#0420: i get this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/869004439040696390/unknown.png
LaeMat#0420: What can I do? vegetal#8870: remove those two things and try again? LaeMat#0420: Pretty sure I need to remove them through the GUI LaeMat#0420: Actually LaeMat#0420: I'll try through CLI LaeMat#0420: Libcanberra is for playing sounds n shit LaeMat#0420: Should I uninstall it LaeMat#0420: Alrighty LaeMat#0420: It worked exquisitedark#1117: i got a new monitor, everything seems a little bit plae and black colors are bright exquisitedark#1117: pale exquisitedark#1117: i lowered the contrast and blacks got blacker exquisitedark#1117: all i needed exquisitedark#1117: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/340493057390804993/869158048940326912/IMG_20210726_130022.jpg NecroFlex#9105: Diversity ™️
NecroFlex#9105: :kappa: exquisitedark#1117: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/868986555648331776/869176176638328902/IMG_20210726_141521.jpg exquisitedark#1117: epic mic placement Sony PS-FL77#3627: Trying to get max keyboard noise exquisitedark#1117: i got reds Sony PS-FL77#3627: I got browns Sony PS-FL77#3627: But will soon switch to Alps switches Sony PS-FL77#3627: *when this fuckin adapter arrives* Gamefreak924#5901: I sometimes have issues when I'm streaming where my mic (H4n handy recorder) will stop being picked up by the computer intermittently. The mic will still be on and detecting noise, but the computer and software won't read anything. Any reason why this could happen just on and off? LaeMat#0420: I have no audio on Manjaro and I have no clue why LaeMat#0420: It happened after I uninstalled the libcanberra stuff because it broke dependencies LaeMat#0420: So am I just stuck with no audio LaeMat#0420: pulseaudio is installed and libcanberra still is LaeMat#0420: But no audio shows up anywhere LaeMat#0420: Ok so it seems to be the audio widget
LaeMat#0420: BUT THERE ISNT ONE LaeMat#0420: THE AUDIO WIDGET IS DELETED LaeMat#0420: nvm figured it out *again* yelly#4532: hey can someone help me with a pc build yelly#4532: i have an old dell dimension e520 that can be upgraded. yelly#4532: with my current budget i can buy a nvidia gtx 9800, core 2 quad q6600, and 4gb of ram. yelly#4532: is it worth it? or will it not run anything decent. yelly#4532: i am not looking to play triple a titles, just a few shooters, driving simulators, and minecraft. yelly#4532: i will probably have to fork in a bit more money for 8gb of ram but before i even think of doing this upgrade, it would be good to know if its even something worth my time and money. Dogecode#7321: i wouldnt get a 9800gtx there's newer options with more vram and dx12 support plus the e520 would need a psu upgrade to use it might as well get an r5 240 or something similar for 10-15 bucks and get the added vram newer drivers and dx12 support for less power consumption Dogecode#7321: otherwise yeah the q6600 should be able to handle the more basic titles assuming you have 8gb of ram Dogecode#7321: 4gb isnt enough
D.D.M#8226: smth like a gt 1030 will do much better D.D.M#8226: and you will find it for cheaper Dogecode#7321: or that, but it sounds like theyre on a shoestring budget Dogecode#7321: r5 240 is much cheaper than a 1030 D.D.M#8226: 9800 gtxs from what ive seen are getting expensive D.D.M#8226: oh well D.D.M#8226: but does it outrun in performance Dogecode#7321: maybe a little but itll be hobbled by old drivers and 512mb of vram Dogecode#7321: so theyd probably perform similarly Dogecode#7321: but the biggest thing to me would be that the 9800gtx wouldnt be just drop in and go for the e520 theyd have to spend more money on a better power supply Dogecode#7321: the dell has no pcie power connectors, nor would the psu have enough wattage thunderdabest#3470: 1030 dosent support xp thunderdabest#3470: :Hahahahaha:
Dogecode#7321: r5 240 does Dogecode#7321: :haha: thunderdabest#3470: I know yelly#4532: dang that sounds like tough luck for me... i cant really afford anything better and the 9800 is on a local buy and sell for $25. the psu HAS to be upgraded? Dogecode#7321: yes it uses like 140 watts yelly#4532: i am on quite the tight budget unless i wait a while longer for a bit more money.. Dogecode#7321: the oem dell psu isnt gonna cut it even if you got an adapter (molex to pcie power) Dogecode#7321: https://www.ebay.com/itm/143762626682?hash=item2178eb987a%3Ag%3APuoAAOSwKF9fc-af&LH_BIN=1 yelly#4532: is there a decent graphics card that i can get that won't require a psu? and if worst comes to worst, and i do have to shovel out more money for a psu, whats the best psu for cheapest Dogecode#7321: can you get this where youre at Dogecode#7321: because that doesnt need a great psu Dogecode#7321: and would probably be better than the 9800 anyway because it has more vram and newer drivers yelly#4532: i don't know, i live far away from any super populated areas so that knocks off a lot of good buys i could get Dogecode#7321: (which vram isnt everything but when you only have 512MB on the 9800 its somewhat of a problem)
yelly#4532: whats the best psu i could get for cheap, all i need is something to support a gpu and thats about it Dogecode#7321: dont get a cheap psu Dogecode#7321: any that you would want to consider would probably be 60 or 70 bucks Dogecode#7321: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/ yelly#4532: im staying away from anything dodgy i want a good name for cheap yelly#4532: how about a radeon 7450 yelly#4532: https://www.ebay.com/itm/154243457172?hash=item23e9a06094:g:XskAAOSwc-df1saR yelly#4532: does that use too much wattage Dogecode#7321: you could try getting a used psu thats half decent Dogecode#7321: but again its kind of risky Dogecode#7321: no, but you cant play many games on that Dogecode#7321: can you not get that r5 240 I sent? Dogecode#7321: that would be better and would use about the same amount of power yelly#4532: it dosen't ship to my location sadly. yelly#4532: im in canada btw
Dogecode#7321: check ebay for "r5 240" and sort by lowest price Dogecode#7321: theres probably something where youre at yelly#4532: let's hope shipping costs aren't through the roof... most are up in the $30 range for shipping Dogecode#7321: rip yelly#4532: the lowest shipping ive seen is 18.85 yelly#4532: its up there but i might be able to get it Dogecode#7321: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/192695273848?epid=1253498351&hash=item2cdd888978%3Ag%3Aa8IAAOSwJ5BeRtRu&LH_BIN=1#shpCntId yelly#4532: $47 shipping on that yelly#4532: that's insane Dogecode#7321: wack Dogecode#7321: it says free shipping for me thunderdabest#3470: Well yeah..... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/869655168055119973/Screenshot_20210727-145900_eBay.jpg yelly#4532: its either covid or where i live in a rural area Dogecode#7321: if theres nothing besides the 9800gtx local, you might have to just do it youll spend more on the 9800gtx if you have to buy a power supply for it
yelly#4532: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/255062990548?hash=item3b62f05ed4:g:-rcAAOSw1sZgti7M yelly#4532: this is the lowest shipping i can fine yelly#4532: find* yelly#4532: aka 18.85 Dogecode#7321: that actually seems a little better then the r5 240 get that then Dogecode#7321: http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R5-240-vs-Radeon-HD-8570 yelly#4532: i don't really know how much wattage my computer's psu has, would it be able to take that card? how would i know? Dogecode#7321: thats a low power card so unless your psu is dying or something it should work yelly#4532: it has been going strong all of these years i dont think its dying **YET** yelly#4532: i checked and its a 305w yelly#4532: how much of that is already being used... Dogecode#7321: itll work yelly#4532: im looking into the card and it says 50w maximum so i hope that will be good.
Dogecode#7321: q6600 uses 95w so youd be well under it still yelly#4532: is there any way i can calculate how much wattage i am using? for future refrence The United States Air Force#7904: EBAY free shipping tho The United States Air Force#7904: an r5 240 should be similar to a gt 710 or ddr3 730 yelly#4532: i rarely get free shipping on anything online The United States Air Force#7904: oof The United States Air Force#7904: are you in the US? yelly#4532: canada The United States Air Force#7904: oh yelly#4532: the middle of nowhere canada The United States Air Force#7904: oof The United States Air Force#7904: what pc do you have yelly#4532: dell dimension e520, my family wants it upgraded (on a stupid tight budget) and i figured i could play a few games on it, where i don't have a pc Dogecode#7321: make sure you also get an ssd if you havent already The United States Air Force#7904: o damn thas ur main?
Dogecode#7321: q6600 + solid state drive is still a solid performer Dogecode#7321: but using a hdd as a boot drive is slow The United States Air Force#7904: ye yelly#4532: i have a 80gb ssd from an old laptop that i'll use as a boot drive paired with a wd blue 1tb which is already bought The United States Air Force#7904: dual boot with linux The United States Air Force#7904: oh nice Dogecode#7321: if its a family pc i doubt the other members will be as receptive to linux :Hahahahaha: The United States Air Force#7904: true The United States Air Force#7904: and hes in the middle of nowhere canada meaning that computers aren't as cheap or common there yelly#4532: which makes everything a pain to find yelly#4532: if i did get the gtx9800 i'd have to drive 2 hours anyway -_- The United States Air Force#7904: and how much would you be paying? The United States Air Force#7904: the 9800 can't run dx11 games or newer The United States Air Force#7904: whereas an r5 240 can run most newer games... just not at the greatest settings and framerate thunderdabest#3470: Dosent xp not support more than dx9 anyways?
Dogecode#7321: idk if they’re using xp Dogecode#7321: if you are you should definitely upgrade if it’s a main pc @yelly yelly#4532: it's going to run Windows 10, and use mainly web browsing, video calling, document writing, etc yelly#4532: and I think I'll go for the r5 or whatever I sent a link for because it doesn't require a better psu LaeMat#0420: When I turn my computer on from sleep mode, is there a way to change the wallpaper that shows up? I'm using KDE Plasma on Manjaro DarknessFalls229#2286: Hey @"Cobs", tell me, how do i use the top two slots? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/870024765941874698/20210728_204247.jpg primo007#7071: Is that a super micro board? DarknessFalls229#2286: yes primo007#7071: Then I'm 99% sure that top slot is for a weird remote management add-on DarknessFalls229#2286: how about that 1% for a riser card? "Cobs"#1150: The PCIE ones? They use a riser card if so normally "Cobs"#1150: That or it’s reserved for an IPMI Management card DarknessFalls229#2286: hmmm okay DarknessFalls229#2286: can you tell me whether i can put a normal pcie card in any of those two top slots
DarknessFalls229#2286: before i do something real stupid DarknessFalls229#2286: oh, i realized the name is missing from the pic DarknessFalls229#2286: Super Micro X7DBE+ Dogecode#7321: yeah @"Cobs" was gonna ask why you didn’t just take a riser out and put the 5450 in one of the full x16 slots in the 1 pound server video Dogecode#7321: seems to be the same idea here DarknessFalls229#2286: erm not really DarknessFalls229#2286: if you look closely at the top two slots, A. the first slot is a longer than 16x slot flipped around and B the second slot has a 8x slot with a 1x slot directly behind it Dogecode#7321: if its longer, the first slot might work pcie x1 x4 or x8 all work in an x16 slot i see what you’re saying though DarknessFalls229#2286: i mean, longer than 16x doesnt really exist, so its probably proprietary with a non-standard layout Dogecode#7321: probably Dogecode#7321: it would also sit backward in that slot DarknessFalls229#2286: ill probably just cut out the back of the third 8x slot to use a full size GPU DarknessFalls229#2286: and put a soundcard in one of the PCI-X slots
Lady Mipha#0611: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/870065951050194974/Screenshot_20210729-101110_DuckDuckGo.jpg Grockle#7163: he wouldn't have been able to close the server from what i understand Dogecode#7321: also that it might have with a low profile card like that though, idk Grockle#7163: it still wouldn't have been properly mounted Dogecode#7321: i cant imagine it being taller than the riser if you took off the pci bracket Grockle#7163: also Grockle#7163: i highly doubt it was bandwidth limited Dogecode#7321: yeah it was just a 5450 :Hahahahaha: Dogecode#7321: or a 6450 Dogecode#7321: either way Xbox 360 1953#2640: Alright so lets say, hypothetically a computer didnt post someone fixes it by taking out the ram, attempting to boot, turning it off, putting the ram back in but swapping the slots the ram is in and different ram has the same issue
Xbox 360 1953#2640: anyone know what the heck that means Xbox 360 1953#2640: my friend told me thats what happens with the computer of someone she knows Xbox 360 1953#2640: and it doesn't make sense to me Sony PS-FL77#3627: From your description it just sounds like a dead ram slot but I'll assume it's more complex Bae#4506: what the actual fuck https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/870586958840205372/video0.mov Bae#4506: that bitch pops up every 2 secons Bae#4506: i cant get rid of it its that fucking nvidia hd audio driver even tho i said to not install it Sony PS-FL77#3627: Bro why is everything oink Sony PS-FL77#3627: The fuck did you break FuckinReece#0021: you got that purple hue primo007#7071: Hmm yes, sli power supply https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/871483008014770247/20210801_130134.jpg RyuuKuro#7616: Guys does Xeon x5660 still worth it for gaming DarknessFalls229#2286: Depends DarknessFalls229#2286: It still games, but is already a bit outdated. So the question really sounds what you already have to support the x5660 and whether you can overclock it Sony PS-FL77#3627: For single threaded gaming? Nahhhh
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Multithreaded (idk like GTA V) yes RyuuKuro#7616: yup those kind of game RyuuKuro#7616: GTA V Valorant Sony PS-FL77#3627: Valorant can use multithreaded rendering Sony PS-FL77#3627: So, if you get it for cheap it's worth it I guess RyuuKuro#7616: Cpu+ mobo for RM180 (45 USD Roughly) incl shipping issit cheap DarknessFalls229#2286: What mobo? RyuuKuro#7616: Non brand of course RyuuKuro#7616: Not really use it for oc vegetal#8870: is it an AliExpress thing RyuuKuro#7616: Yeah vegetal#8870: ah RyuuKuro#7616: But not from aliexpress kinda same DarknessFalls229#2286: Hmmm i guess you wouldnt be able to get a 6 core cheaper anywhere else, but DarknessFalls229#2286: Those boards are pretty scetchy in terms of usability
vegetal#8870: I don't think there's a large used motherboard market in southeast Asia DarknessFalls229#2286: Sure, itll get the job done, but it wont be as polished as other x58 branded boards RyuuKuro#7616: Its from china prolly takes 2-3 weeks to get here DarknessFalls229#2286: Well i somehow ended up with an X58 GA X58 UD3R with a UD7 heatsink, x5670 xeon and 48GBs of ram for like 100 euro DarknessFalls229#2286: @RyuuKuro could you give an example of what is considered a 'good deal' on the used market in your region Sony PS-FL77#3627: I mean that seems like an okay deal from where I'm sat Sony PS-FL77#3627: but idk if it's the best deal DarknessFalls229#2286: Its just that the motherboard is prolly absolute crap, but if youre okay with that... RyuuKuro#7616: Didnt really care about motherboard tho as long as it could handle the proc im good withbir RyuuKuro#7616: guys what about e5 2640 v2 DarknessFalls229#2286: Already quite a bit better considering its ivy bridge DarknessFalls229#2286: But once again whats the pairing and pricing? RyuuKuro#7616: Roughly 60usd RyuuKuro#7616: With motherboard DarknessFalls229#2286: Okay
DarknessFalls229#2286: I must say DarknessFalls229#2286: The CPUs clockspeed is **dreadful** DarknessFalls229#2286: But 8 cores is nice Sony PS-FL77#3627: Imo get the x5660 and just enjoy life Sony PS-FL77#3627: 6 cores 12 threads and it's cheap DarknessFalls229#2286: Well, what other ivy chips are on offer? Sony PS-FL77#3627: Want better single core performance? Disable hyperthreading DarknessFalls229#2286: Doesnt really matter if boost speed is only 2.5GHz Sony PS-FL77#3627: Trust me it does RyuuKuro#7616: the chip itself cost around 14usd Sony PS-FL77#3627: On that Xeon server I ran disabling hyperthreading was the diff between usable gaming and no gaming DarknessFalls229#2286: Hmm weird Sony PS-FL77#3627: Went from 20 FPS to like 30-40 in games like FNV and Minecraft DarknessFalls229#2286: I blame it on the dual socket nature :p RyuuKuro#7616: X5660 cost around 10 buck
RyuuKuro#7616: And e5 2640 v2 around 14 RyuuKuro#7616: I think mostly the price goes to motherboard DarknessFalls229#2286: Once again, what other ivy/E5-2000 chips are on offer DarknessFalls229#2286: If youre choosing xeons without overclocking, it might be more important to choose high clockspeed of threadcount RyuuKuro#7616: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/871660734898143232/IMG_20210802_154823.jpg Sony PS-FL77#3627: How much for the 2670 or 2680? RyuuKuro#7616: for 2680 its 250RM = 60 RyuuKuro#7616: USD Sony PS-FL77#3627: sheesh alright that's a big jump DarknessFalls229#2286: Perhaps not as useful for gaming, co sidering its a 10 core RyuuKuro#7616: 2670 is 30 DarknessFalls229#2286: Whats the 2650? Sony PS-FL77#3627: Honestly the 2630 looks pretty good RyuuKuro#7616: around 18 Sony PS-FL77#3627: boost of 3,1 isn't half bad
DarknessFalls229#2286: I say get the 2650, cause it boosts to 3.4 Sony PS-FL77#3627: I'd maybe say grab the 2650 ye Sony PS-FL77#3627: That'll probably be the best bang for your buck DarknessFalls229#2286: 8 cores, 16 threads that boosts up to 3.4, the only thing thats better may be the 2680(for gaming) DarknessFalls229#2286: Oh yeah, sidenote, ivy bridge has newer instruction sets and PCIe 3.0 compared to the xeon x5660 RyuuKuro#7616: I round up E5 2650 v2, 16GB ECC RAM, and a mobo aroune 100 usd Sony PS-FL77#3627: That's a pretty good buy imo RyuuKuro#7616: Does ecc ram has impact on gaming DarknessFalls229#2286: Can you send a pic of the board? Sony PS-FL77#3627: Not really DarknessFalls229#2286: Not really, but whether youre running dual channel or quad channel(which the cpu does support) doez RyuuKuro#7616: Green looking motherboard https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/871662748491198494/IMG_20210802_155613.jpg Sony PS-FL77#3627: wait wtf Sony PS-FL77#3627: is that pic mirrored? Sony PS-FL77#3627: Either that pic is wrong or the IO is on the wrong side of the PCIe slot
RyuuKuro#7616: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/871663119963922432/IMG_20210802_155750.jpg Sony PS-FL77#3627: That's more like it xD RyuuKuro#7616: Pretty basic looking RyuuKuro#7616: But as long it get the job done im happy with it Sony PS-FL77#3627: Only a single Sata 3 Sony PS-FL77#3627: the rest is 2 Sony PS-FL77#3627: wowsa RyuuKuro#7616: Yeee RyuuKuro#7616: 1 M.2 1 hdd i prolly gonna use Sony PS-FL77#3627: It doesn't have M.2 does it? Or will you use a PCIe x1 add-in card? DarknessFalls229#2286: @RyuuKuro it has quad channel RAM, so make sure to get 4x 4GB sticks if you wamt 16GB RyuuKuro#7616: It does have DarknessFalls229#2286: it does, above the 16x slot. Though its not native to this socket Sony PS-FL77#3627: oh shit lmao Sony PS-FL77#3627: Didn't even see it there
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Yeah that's pretty cool Sony PS-FL77#3627: I like this mobo DarknessFalls229#2286: I think DarknessFalls229#2286: With some modding from the russians DarknessFalls229#2286: You can get 3.4GHz on all cores DarknessFalls229#2286: With the 2650 RyuuKuro#7616: Can you share the link DarknessFalls229#2286: Uhhh, its from memory DarknessFalls229#2286: So i cant really help, youll habe to do your own research DarknessFalls229#2286: But DarknessFalls229#2286: Only do it when you become dissatisfied with your CPU performance DarknessFalls229#2286: I think youll have a chance of bricking your board if you do try it RyuuKuro#7616: Im really afraid of oc as it destroy my previous pc RyuuKuro#7616: Think gonna pass on that one DarknessFalls229#2286: Yeah its a risk
DarknessFalls229#2286: As an overclocker/modder myself , id be willing to try it RyuuKuro#7616: Maybe if i getting new hardware i will do it RyuuKuro#7616: Does this processor much better than 4710hq although this is mobile processor. DarknessFalls229#2286: Wayy better DarknessFalls229#2286: As its 8 cores 16 threads aswell RyuuKuro#7616: Glad to hear that as my laptop really burning my hand when try to game on it RyuuKuro#7616: @Sony PS-FL77 @DarknessFalls229 thank for helping i really apreciate it DarknessFalls229#2286: No problem, youre welcome Sony PS-FL77#3627: Yo any time Sony PS-FL77#3627: Do you have any idea what GPU will be paired with it btw? RyuuKuro#7616: sorry for late reply R7 370 2GB RyuuKuro#7616: . Sony PS-FL77#3627: Oh that's a good match imo Kurriochi#3447: oh speaking of that card Kurriochi#3447: i found this interesting thing on ebay
Kurriochi#3447: https://www.ebay.com/itm/154550830289?epid=219613648&hash=item23fbf284d1:g:zxUAAOSwbsFgyECR Kurriochi#3447: i'm not in the UK so i couldn't get it if I tried, it's 65 quid and it might be useful to someone Alcyone#2233: Those china "X79" boards are usually dual channel unless it has 8 dimm slots Bae#4506: nah just trash phone FuckinReece#0021: that purple hue Muse#0557: Yeh I agree x79 is inaccurate they are just 2011 boards Lady Mipha#0611: they basically use desktop chipsets Grockle#7163: Yesyes The Tired Technician#8073: Quick question to anybody that knows The Tired Technician#8073: Building my own minecraft server. Does the server box require graphics to run the game? Or is the focus mainly on CPU The Tired Technician#8073: Building the box out of an HP Elite 8200 SFF The Tired Technician#8073: So have an i5-2400 in it currently, have a Xeon E3-1275 to put in it The Tired Technician#8073: But I also have a GTX 1050 Ti low profile to stick in there D.D.M#8226: Only cpu Lady Mipha#0611: CPU and Fast storage is what minecraft likes
The Tired Technician#8073: gotcha D.D.M#8226: And makes sure you have plentiful of storage D.D.M#8226: Once you go exploring wide The Tired Technician#8073: I got a 250gig ssd in there currently D.D.M#8226: It should do fine D.D.M#8226: Though i would recommend you use linux The Tired Technician#8073: Thats what im running on it rn D.D.M#8226: Alright then ye you are set The Tired Technician#8073: its only pop os, but it does fine The Tired Technician#8073: Probably not the best distro for the job, but it does its job The Tired Technician#8073: more importantly, I want to go from 16gigs of ram to 32 D.D.M#8226: Every distro of linux is still better then non server windows D.D.M#8226: And i think 32gb would be a too much The Tired Technician#8073: Yeah? How do you reckon D.D.M#8226: For an mc server
D.D.M#8226: Because mc also doesn't like too much ram The Tired Technician#8073: hmmm D.D.M#8226: I started having problems st 12gb mark The Tired Technician#8073: Well right now im only giving the server 8 gigs to play with out of the systems total 16 D.D.M#8226: Crashes and dips D.D.M#8226: Ye just keep experimenting The Tired Technician#8073: its slow 1333 ddr3 stuff. So not amazing D.D.M#8226: And find the sweet spot The Tired Technician#8073: I wanted to go to Ivy bridge, but my HP didnt take any of my 3rd gen chips I stuck in there The Tired Technician#8073: So im just on a Xeon skew The Tired Technician#8073: Basically an i7-2600 The Tired Technician#8073: ish The Tired Technician#8073: 3770k would be amazing. And probably last a good while as an MC server D.D.M#8226: Ye 3770k are still pretty good too The Tired Technician#8073: That chip can still rock and roll with modern titles
D.D.M#8226: Same with the ivy bridge xeons D.D.M#8226: If you cant find the i7 The Tired Technician#8073: Xeons are generally cheaper than consumer brand stuff too The Tired Technician#8073: which is a plus The Tired Technician#8073: I guess I might be able to stick a Xeon E3-1290 in there if I really need to squeeze more CPU power out of my system. But the 1275 I have in there right now seems to do the trick just fine D.D.M#8226: Depends on how large the server will be D.D.M#8226: But if its just small survival server then it should be fine The Tired Technician#8073: Honestly The Tired Technician#8073: 20 people max, just for friends and family The Tired Technician#8073: If I want to dabble in making like a big public server, it probably wont be just out of a spare computer I had laying around that wasnt doing much The Tired Technician#8073: Maybe buying an actual rack case for my server rack The Tired Technician#8073: probably more modern CPUs The Tired Technician#8073: plural D.D.M#8226: Yep Lady Mipha#0611: Yep
The Tired Technician#8073: Either that, or older higher core count CPUs D.D.M#8226: What you have now is perfectly fine D.D.M#8226: And pretty good The Tired Technician#8073: maybe like a Ivy bridge or Haswell 2011 system The Tired Technician#8073: But ideally I would like Haswell refresh or newer for a server like that The Tired Technician#8073: Golden ticket though might be first gen threadripper. Older Opterons are kinda poopy The Tired Technician#8073: Even those 16 core piledriver, bulldozer whatever chips Lady Mipha#0611: AMD before ryzen was just crap The Tired Technician#8073: Not very good Dogecode#7321: i never had the misfortune to use an a-series or fx cpu The Tired Technician#8073: I mean I rocked a Phenom II X6 for awhile. But it was really showing its age at the end there Lady Mipha#0611: basically top of line FX was comparable to 2nd gen i5 Dogecode#7321: once i reset my friends pc with an e300 or something, it was slow af Dogecode#7321: but that’s relatively low end The Tired Technician#8073: Before that Phenom, I was an Core 2 Quad. And honestly I liked C2Q more than that Phenom
Lady Mipha#0611: it was said that they had more cores but that was a advertising mistake The Tired Technician#8073: Yes they techincally did have more physical cores The Tired Technician#8073: But they had shared FSB and other resources The Tired Technician#8073: So it realistically functioned like it had half the core count, with hyperthreading The Tired Technician#8073: or SMT since were talking AMD Lady Mipha#0611: 2t/1c The Tired Technician#8073: Basically The Tired Technician#8073: If it was a "6 core" chip The Tired Technician#8073: It functioned like 3c 6t Lady Mipha#0611: was supposed to be 2c/1t The Tired Technician#8073: I got what you meant The Tired Technician#8073: AMD got served with a pretty big lawsuit because of that core thing as well JustinXenyx#8854: nah it really is more like 2 cores 1 thread JustinXenyx#8854: Each core was so crippled in its capabilities that they ended up performing like half a core The Tired Technician#8073: Thanks for the clarification
The Tired Technician#8073: Either way, that entire multiple generations of chips did not stand the test of time at all The Tired Technician#8073: They wernt high end when they came out, and they're just terrible now. JustinXenyx#8854: Honestly, for some workstation stuff they still hold up surprisingly well at a lower price point JustinXenyx#8854: In gaming however these chips aged like dogshit The Tired Technician#8073: I mean in like blender or whatever, I can still see some usecase for them The Tired Technician#8073: But for anything other than productivity, they are terrible The Tired Technician#8073: And in most cases, there are better options jay1185#0112: i love the FX discussions lmao Sony PS-FL77#3627: brb buying an 8 core FX Grockle#7163: Legally speaking, 4c8t Rea77y#6618: Eh Rea77y#6618: How do I format a nexus 10 Rea77y#6618: That has its bootloader locked Rea77y#6618: And can't bootup to android due to Google services crashing it back to startup Rea77y#6618: The problem is that I can't restart the device to unlock the bootloader
Rea77y#6618: Since it can't restart properly The United States Air Force#7904: Lol jay1185#0112: nah, 8c4t The United States Air Force#7904: Lol rriot#6100: Lol D.D.M#8226: Hey guys, so recently i was given an acer netbook from what appears to be from 2011 maybe 12, and has an Atom something and 1gb of ddr3 ram, and i am thinking of using it as an on the go machine when i need a full desktop environment with a real keyboard, but that 1gb of ram immediately gets used up in windows 7 which it has currently installed. Would it be a good idea to upgrade to 4gb of ram? D.D.M#8226: Given that ddr3 laptop modules here are common and under 20€ Sony PS-FL77#3627: Atom N2600 probably Sony PS-FL77#3627: It can't use more than 2GB Sony PS-FL77#3627: So 4GB stick would be a waste of time Sony PS-FL77#3627: I'm guessing it's an Acer Aspire One D.D.M#8226: Yes Sony PS-FL77#3627: Probably an Aspire One D270? D.D.M#8226: D smth smth
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Anywho ye Use it as a tiny Linux web browser and nothing more because that's all it can do D.D.M#8226: Though i dont think it was a 270 D.D.M#8226: Thats my plan Sony PS-FL77#3627: Actually I played DOS emulators and PS1 emulators on mine Sony PS-FL77#3627: It's great great great for that D.D.M#8226: Its ps1 lol Sony PS-FL77#3627: Cause the iGPU of the N2600 is actually not completely useless D.D.M#8226: No wonder it can handle it Sony PS-FL77#3627: You'd be surprised D.D.M#8226: I got respectable frame rates from half life and cs 1.6 D.D.M#8226: And another game called sven co op Sony PS-FL77#3627: Yeah no it's a great little machine Sony PS-FL77#3627: Also also piece of advice Sony PS-FL77#3627: To open the back panel you need to first take out the keyboard and take out some screws under the keyboard
D.D.M#8226: Yep already watched a tutorial Sony PS-FL77#3627: In my particular case I left those screws out permanently cause it saves so much time lmao D.D.M#8226: And i accidentally pushed one of the latch things too far and i think i broke Sony PS-FL77#3627: Oop D.D.M#8226: But the keyboard is still rigid Sony PS-FL77#3627: It is very very very flimsy Sony PS-FL77#3627: Hence why I left the screws out so I could just leave the keyboard in place D.D.M#8226: Though i used a knife D.D.M#8226: :Hahahahaha: D.D.M#8226: Dont ask why D.D.M#8226: Lets just say curiosity killed the cat with no tools at the time Sony PS-FL77#3627: I used a tiny letter opener Dogecode#7321: Even if you upgrade to 2gb (which yes you should do) you’ll still want to use something like Lubuntu for the best experience Dogecode#7321: It’s insanely light, seems to get along fine on my celeron n3060 with 2gb and 32gb emmc (though I haven’t played around with it a ton on that) NecroFlex#9105: technically it can't use more, but throwing in a 4gb stick to test won't hurt, my D525 could run 8gb without issues, even in a single stick, but struggled when adding a 2nd stick of anything, even 1gb, so potentially, since the N2600 supports 2.44GB of ram, it could take 4GB in a single stick
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Yes but not worth spending another 10 or 20 extra Sony PS-FL77#3627: Nah fam peppermint OS NecroFlex#9105: well if it's lying around, not for having to buy it NecroFlex#9105: i have like 150gb of ram lying around, from EDO, to DDR4, just because testing and usage Kurriochi#3447: one question if I combine an HD 2600 PRO and an RX 590 and I pass through the HD 2600 PRO to my VM would I have any driver issues? if I install the HD 2600 PRO drivers in the VM? Dogecode#7321: ik budget had a radeon x300 or something with his fury a while back, so you should be fine Kurriochi#3447: but how did he set it up? Dogecode#7321: idk Clode#2428: i may have an stupid question Clode#2428: if i have an slow hdd and buy an small nvme ssd to boot windows will that free the hdd a bit and make it a bit faster? Dogecode#7321: windows won’t be on it anymore assuming you reformat it, so of course you’ll have more room on the hdd
the hdd itself wouldn’t get any faster, but windows would feel much more responsive Clode#2428: but like Clode#2428: in games would i enter a bit faster? Clode#2428: bc of more free space? Dogecode#7321: if the drive is full up to the brim now, then probably drives don’t like being completely full otherwise probably not since you’re still loading from the hdd Clode#2428: ok Clode#2428: thanks for the help NecroFlex#9105: Went to one of my contacts for PC parts and got myself 8 laptops, 6 of them are Elitebooks 8760W's, 4 of which are i7's, an Elitebook 8560p, a Dell E6420 and a slightly beat up 8770W, which is the only one of the bunch that doesn't work. Other have ram in them aswell and batteries, tho not sure how good the batteries still are, but i feel like it's a great catch for like 160€ :pog: D.D.M#8226: ye dam nice D.D.M#8226: you could clean em up a bit and resell them DarknessFalls229#2286: Elitebooks, arent those the ones that have a user account integrated into the bios, which is locked down af if you dont know the password. As well as special encrypted harddrives? Dogecode#7321: the dell can also have a locked bios Sony PS-FL77#3627: Not all elitebooks
But I think some yes NecroFlex#9105: those ones don't NecroFlex#9105: you can override them easily NecroFlex#9105: there's actually a software for it NecroFlex#9105: but i have a USB programmer so if i can't find the software, i can just override the bios NecroFlex#9105: as i've done way too many times now :LUL: The Tired Technician#8073: @Sony PS-FL77 Whats the best expansion port you have on your computer? If youre only rocking a GT 210, I have a GT 520 card I can part with. Its on the PCI bus, but it should still be better. Sony PS-FL77#3627: That's a very kind proposition! But I fear I'm using the 210 by choice rather than necessity. It's a fun GPU and I only really use it as a display output, which it does well enough. For gaming I have a GTX1650TI powered laptop Sony PS-FL77#3627: But appreciate the offer, really nice. The Tired Technician#8073: Alright then, no problem. Apologies for the ping. Sony PS-FL77#3627: No really thank you! No problems at all. NecroFlex#9105: @The Tired Technician if i can jump in, i wouldn't mind buying it off of you, would be a nice little project, have a few ITX boards with PCI only The Tired Technician#8073: ITX with PCI only? The Tired Technician#8073: what a strange combination
NecroFlex#9105: a few of them are like BGA atoms and such NecroFlex#9105: but one is an AM2 board The Tired Technician#8073: The only board I could have thought of like that was those old integrated PoS terminal boards The Tired Technician#8073: In the XP era The Tired Technician#8073: I remember this one board that has a VIA chip on it NecroFlex#9105: 210 for video in this day and age is a ballsy move, especially paired with a Q6600, poor things trying to decode an H264 video :Kappa: NecroFlex#9105: like i said, most have BGA atoms on them The Tired Technician#8073: Well they did say they had a laptop with a 1650 Ti in it The Tired Technician#8073: So they probably just fine in video watching NecroFlex#9105: true, but for display output, i doubt it only for it only existing 😛 Sony PS-FL77#3627: Actually never had any issue NecroFlex#9105: wording™ Sony PS-FL77#3627: Be it 1080p60 on twitch or YouTube or Netflix The Tired Technician#8073: Had a stroke trying to read that NecroFlex#9105: hmm
NecroFlex#9105: had an actual stroke typing that :kekw: The Tired Technician#8073: I dont doubt it, god damn dude Sony PS-FL77#3627: I also play Oblivion on it Sony PS-FL77#3627: Also it's a passively cooled 210 The Tired Technician#8073: Oblivion? Jeez. Props to the 210 I guess. I didnt think it could do that Sony PS-FL77#3627: With no airflow cause my fan controller isn't in yet NecroFlex#9105: ```The GeForce 210 has built-in fourth generation PureVideo HD (VP4) chip that should decode 1080p h.264 video streams without any problem``` nvm, found my answer Sony PS-FL77#3627: So hoo boy Sony PS-FL77#3627: It handles it with ease as 1080p Sony PS-FL77#3627: Frame times are sketch sometimes but that's because it overheats Need to get my fan controller installed The Tired Technician#8073: You want to talk about no airflow? Try a Pentium D with no intake fans. Only the power supply fan in the entirety of a closed case The Tired Technician#8073: That thing is a jet engine NecroFlex#9105: eh, depends on the Pentium D
The Tired Technician#8073: 925 Sony PS-FL77#3627: I've done that exact setuo with an overclocked Athlon II The Tired Technician#8073: 3ghz Sony PS-FL77#3627: Fight me Sony PS-FL77#3627: Overclocked and Core Unlocked Athlon II x3 Sony PS-FL77#3627: At like 1,675v The Tired Technician#8073: Try a pentium 4 in an old dell dimension case. With the rear fan dead and seized. Sony PS-FL77#3627: Or at least 1,55 Sony PS-FL77#3627: Depends on which overclock I was pushing Sony PS-FL77#3627: No intakes Only the PSU as exhaust Sony PS-FL77#3627: That was a toasty boy setup The Tired Technician#8073: I dont doubt it NecroFlex#9105: i left a P4 machine with no heatsink on to run, with disabled thermal shutdown 🔥
The Tired Technician#8073: Old cases are such garbo for airflow Sony PS-FL77#3627: This was also in a 1998 case Sony PS-FL77#3627: Just to add to the fun Sony PS-FL77#3627: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/873331488752537660/20210807_002727.jpg Sony PS-FL77#3627: This one The Tired Technician#8073: I had to mod my Dell Dimension case by drilling holes into the front. I only just about managed to mount an 80mm intake fan where the hard drive would have gone The Tired Technician#8073: Hey I have a case like that for my og pentium rig Sony PS-FL77#3627: I'm gonna mount a dual Xeon server into it soon The Tired Technician#8073: I have a Pentium 233mhz build in a inwin Q500 The Tired Technician#8073: Completely wrong era for those parts The Tired Technician#8073: but meh Sony PS-FL77#3627: Fully SSI-EEB Sony PS-FL77#3627: From around 2010 The Tired Technician#8073: Q500 was more of a 386-486 case The Tired Technician#8073: noice. I was thinking of mounting that mATX chinese dual 2011 board and mounting it into a sff case
The Tired Technician#8073: Like this case is real small for an mATX form factor Sony PS-FL77#3627: I've used this dummy huge PC for 15 odd years The Tired Technician#8073: My main computer is full sized ATX. I want it to go bigger tho The Tired Technician#8073: maybe an EATX case Sony PS-FL77#3627: Though my Q6600 is in this case https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/873332261318197248/20210804_150035.jpg Sony PS-FL77#3627: Full ATX Silverstone The Tired Technician#8073: looks like it could be a home theatre case Sony PS-FL77#3627: That's exactly what it is NecroFlex#9105: i always wondered what was the point of these huge things, where do you plug all those dials into? The Tired Technician#8073: My home theatre is a HP Elite 8200 sff on its side. :p Sony PS-FL77#3627: Fancy lights included https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/873332504315195432/VID-20210805-WA0021.mp4 The Tired Technician#8073: Ive got a bitchin ass sound card in it though. Good enough to power my tweeters and the sub The Tired Technician#8073: Thats probably just the audiophile in me though, always wanting that kinda thing Sony PS-FL77#3627: I just use an AudioQuest DragonFly hooked into my full Hi-Fi The Tired Technician#8073: thats not bad
Sony PS-FL77#3627: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/873332808624513134/20210805_095121.jpg Sony PS-FL77#3627: You can see the Aux in on the right lol The Tired Technician#8073: I got full beefmaster shit in the closet with my server. Might as well take advantage of the holes I drilled in my walls for wires The Tired Technician#8073: lmao Sony PS-FL77#3627: Lol I just use old school shit The Tired Technician#8073: Which isnt bad in it of itself Sony PS-FL77#3627: Stereo speakers Stereo amp Steer turntable Stereo cassette deck The Tired Technician#8073: sexy The Tired Technician#8073: On my main rig, I just have an iFi Diablo external dac and amp combo The Tired Technician#8073: I say just, its still a thousand dollar piece of tech Sony PS-FL77#3627: I'll leave you with a clip of my cassette deck during maintenance https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/873333468266901594/VID-20210805-WA0017.mp4 Sony PS-FL77#3627: Goodnight
The Tired Technician#8073: night-o The Tired Technician#8073: where ever you live Sony PS-FL77#3627: The Netherlands The Tired Technician#8073: Oh fun The Tired Technician#8073: Im all bout that cheeseburger and freedom life Sony PS-FL77#3627: Yeehaw The Tired Technician#8073: hell yeah brother NecroFlex#9105: how can i fit in...uhh...i have an old record player... The Tired Technician#8073: You can start anywhere my man The Tired Technician#8073: You just gotta know how to take care of the tech, and how to respect it in its own right NecroFlex#9105: i know, but it's mostly with PC stuff and old consoles, don't know much about Hi-Fi The Tired Technician#8073: What a time to learn then. While the world has been locked down for more than 500 days now NecroFlex#9105: i spent it cleaning up my apartment from all the pc stuff i've piled in it :LUL: NecroFlex#9105: + cleaning said PC stuff NecroFlex#9105: and testing it and assembling it and selling some off for a nice buck
NecroFlex#9105: tho kept quite a few older boards The Tired Technician#8073: I think im a little guilty of that myself NecroFlex#9105: mainly socket 370 and socket 1, some socket 486 and socket 7 and such and ofc their CPUs NecroFlex#9105: and the main guy, the socket 8 which i have no clue what to do with :LUL: The Tired Technician#8073: Commander keen The Tired Technician#8073: obviously NecroFlex#9105: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/873335907959328818/20210522_174206.jpg The Tired Technician#8073: no vlb? The Tired Technician#8073: sadness NecroFlex#9105: well it is ATX and not AT The Tired Technician#8073: well, yeah you have a point there NecroFlex#9105: i legit don't have a mobo with VLB 🤔 The Tired Technician#8073: but if youre including ISA on a board, might as well throw in at least *one* vlb NecroFlex#9105: which reminds me NecroFlex#9105: i need to get one :LUL:
The Tired Technician#8073: I got one The Tired Technician#8073: Its currently my 486 build tho The Tired Technician#8073: in.... if I remember right an A500 case The Tired Technician#8073: its got an S3 card in there for 2D, and a Voodoo II for 3D NecroFlex#9105: you seem like someone who'd know what this thing is 😛 NecroFlex#9105: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/873336483786915840/unknown.png The Tired Technician#8073: portable amp? NecroFlex#9105: wide band fm radio The Tired Technician#8073: Ah NecroFlex#9105: seems to be quite old The Tired Technician#8073: I saw amp in the top right The Tired Technician#8073: thats some str8 70s shit you got there though The Tired Technician#8073: that aint in bad condition either The Tired Technician#8073: for shitty 70s plastic NecroFlex#9105: you can't see the yellowing because it's coloured black 😛
The Tired Technician#8073: lol thats true The Tired Technician#8073: retrobrite would still probably clean that up nice though NecroFlex#9105: on that note, it's 1am and i need to go to sleep NecroFlex#9105: still have work tomorrow NecroFlex#9105: ort well, technically today NecroFlex#9105: we'll discuss the 520 PCI later 😛 still want it The Tired Technician#8073: sure sure The Tired Technician#8073: Im considering actually putting it into my dell dimension The Tired Technician#8073: it only has 3 pci slots The Tired Technician#8073: has pads for an AGP connection, but no actual port The Tired Technician#8073: just pads NecroFlex#9105: hmm, depends on the chipset if it supports it, but if it does, you could just solder on the connector if all the other SMDs are on there The Tired Technician#8073: Intel 845GV chipset The Tired Technician#8073: So no AGP support, at all NecroFlex#9105: Odd, because asrock has a mobo with this chipset and agp
NecroFlex#9105: https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/845GV-M/index.asp The Tired Technician#8073: Maybe they have a bridge chip on there The Tired Technician#8073: Thats probably the case The Tired Technician#8073: ah, yep. Looking at the specs of the board. Its a seperate adapter chip The Tired Technician#8073: I think it might be in the southbridge The Tired Technician#8073: Since that deals with all the connectivity of the board NecroFlex#9105: Ahh, damn The Tired Technician#8073: @NecroFlex yeb NecroFlex#9105: @The Tired Technician ok so, about the 520, how much would you want for it if you were willing to sell it? The Tired Technician#8073: 50 USD The Tired Technician#8073: @NecroFlex Lady Mipha#0611: that's not agp Lady Mipha#0611: that's fake agp The Tired Technician#8073: How do you figure? The Tired Technician#8073: Is it limited in some way?
Lady Mipha#0611: yeah by the pci bus The Tired Technician#8073: Its shared on the PCI bus? How tf does that work The Tired Technician#8073: Thought AGP was its own seperate connection Lady Mipha#0611: it does but by the end of it they made it possible The Tired Technician#8073: So like late pentium 4s and early 775 machines The Tired Technician#8073: that kind of era The Tired Technician#8073: AGP card being limited to 133mb/s shared is ruff Lady Mipha#0611: yeah but not all of them were limited The Tired Technician#8073: Theres also the 266mb/s PCi busses The Tired Technician#8073: but meh The Tired Technician#8073: still not too good The Tired Technician#8073: AGP was... I think around 500mb/s? The Tired Technician#8073: I think? hughes fan number 1#6171: Where can I get tarkov The Tired Technician#8073: Google dude
The Tired Technician#8073: like The Tired Technician#8073: 5 seconds The Tired Technician#8073: just type in escape from tarkov into google D.D.M#8226: Anybody know why do my integrated amd gpu drivers keep messing up and breaking directx and vulkan? D.D.M#8226: Every time it breaks i use DDU to completely uninstall the drivers and let windows update do its thing D.D.M#8226: This will last for the next few restarts and then i cannot launch any directx or vulkan game again D.D.M#8226: And when i use the official amd driver intaller, it breaks after the next restart when installing finishes NecroFlex#9105: 🤔 i'm guessing that's without shipping? I'm from Europe so that would be quite the shipping then. I'll have to give it some thought, thanks tho! NecroFlex#9105: PCi max was 266, but there was PCI-X on WS and server boards that reached 533 NecroFlex#9105: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/874002273473286144/unknown.png NecroFlex#9105: only shows 32-bit for PCI NecroFlex#9105: OpenGL works? Does it only manifest when trying to open a game up that uses Dx or Vulcan? Try using DDU and then not letting windows install the drivers and install them yourself. NecroFlex#9105: is this a laptop or desktop? NecroFlex#9105: if a laptop, there might be a driver missing that's on the official website, or it could be something to do with BIOS, check if there's a newer version of it
NecroFlex#9105: That is true, but it was still better than having nothing there even if the support was lacking, neat trick tho, i do know that ASRock always made some weird shit for their mobos, like the 939 and AM2 and such upgrade slots NecroFlex#9105: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/874005777025744956/unknown.png The Tired Technician#8073: @NecroFlex Probably a later PCI revision. The Tired Technician#8073: @D.D.M im going to echo what Necro said and say try DDU. If not try booting into safe mode a couple times to see if the issue persists. If the issue still persists try a clean copy of whatever OS youre using D.D.M#8226: @NecroFlex @The Tired Technician i though you two would think its a laptop from the start but ok, anyway its a laptop and yes i did try a clean install The Tired Technician#8073: And is the issue still persisting? D.D.M#8226: Yes The Tired Technician#8073: Kay, try going into bios and try seperating your two GPUs The Tired Technician#8073: In your bios there should be iGPU multi-monitor or something like that The Tired Technician#8073: turn that option to yes D.D.M#8226: Cant doesn't have those options NecroFlex#9105: if it's the specs from your name, why are you trying to run off of your iGPU and not the 1660ti? The Tired Technician#8073: You should be able to do it in OS if youre using windows 10 D.D.M#8226: I did D.D.M#8226: No difference
The Tired Technician#8073: hmmmmmm The Tired Technician#8073: Have you ever gotten a bsod from the issue? D.D.M#8226: Nope The Tired Technician#8073: hm The Tired Technician#8073: strange issue indeed D.D.M#8226: Gpu switching D.D.M#8226: When the amd drivers arent installed The Tired Technician#8073: Well since you have an nvidia dedicated GPU, and amd integrated The Tired Technician#8073: it might be a communication issue between radeon software and geforce experience D.D.M#8226: But then why do the games stop and start working when i reinstall the amd driver D.D.M#8226: Odd The Tired Technician#8073: my guess would be shoddy AMD drivers NecroFlex#9105: like i said, try to use the official drivers from the laptops website and check for a bios update D.D.M#8226: Did same thing NecroFlex#9105: my guess is that when you fully reinstall it, you also clean up the registry, there could be registry errors
The Tired Technician#8073: What does it look like in event viewer when games crash? D.D.M#8226: They dont crash they outright dont run or give an error that no supported gpu is detected The Tired Technician#8073: Hmm, does it say the same in event viewer? D.D.M#8226: But i haven't checked event viewer The Tired Technician#8073: You should check it The Tired Technician#8073: and try to replicate the issue The Tired Technician#8073: so It can tell you whats wrong D.D.M#8226: But when that happens NecroFlex#9105: what shows in device manager? Nothing special or does it show the GPU with a warning triangle? D.D.M#8226: No warning triangles The Tired Technician#8073: iiiiinteresting D.D.M#8226: Even after drivers break The Tired Technician#8073: Try it in safe mode. See if you can replicate the issue there D.D.M#8226: I am also thinking that this is amds fault The Tired Technician#8073: Its what im thinking too. Probably shoddy drivers
NecroFlex#9105: so even if you force it to use nvidia for games, it gives the same error? NecroFlex#9105: as in, in nvidia control panel D.D.M#8226: Yep D.D.M#8226: Both nvidia panel D.D.M#8226: And windows settings The Tired Technician#8073: And is this a new issue? Or have you been getting hints at it for awhile NecroFlex#9105: and it specifically shows it being an iGPU issue or? D.D.M#8226: Probs it is because after the drivers break the amd panel breaks while the nvidia one doesn't D.D.M#8226: Beginning NecroFlex#9105: so it could be a HW issue D.D.M#8226: Aka The Tired Technician#8073: Then I would try to completely disable the iGPU. That is probably the root of your problems D.D.M#8226: January NecroFlex#9105: so when you bought the laptop brand new? The Tired Technician#8073: You can go into device manager and disable device
The Tired Technician#8073: See if issue persists D.D.M#8226: But the display becomes wonky and still stuff doesn't run The Tired Technician#8073: Really. Hmm. Does it do that in safe mode if its disabled? D.D.M#8226: Yep The Tired Technician#8073: Huh. The Tired Technician#8073: Im thinking... board The Tired Technician#8073: hw issue on board NecroFlex#9105: everything runs off of the iGPU, even the 1660ti, because it's the bridge between them, same for intel, the iGPU is the bridge to the dedicated one, if there's an issue with the bridge, it will show the issue in the dedicated one aswell D.D.M#8226: Its practically new D.D.M#8226: So there is no reason it hardware NecroFlex#9105: that's specifically the reason it could be a HW issue D.D.M#8226: Because ive seen people with these kinds of laptops have the same issue NecroFlex#9105: oh NecroFlex#9105: hmm D.D.M#8226: And they havent found a solution
D.D.M#8226: Other than stick with it The Tired Technician#8073: What about the OEM you bought that laptop from? What do they have to say about the issue? NecroFlex#9105: as in, the same brand and make of laptop or just overall any laptop with an AMD APU and dedicated GPU? D.D.M#8226: Overall D.D.M#8226: Asus tuf The Tired Technician#8073: What did asus have to say about the issue? When you reported it to them D.D.M#8226: Huh D.D.M#8226: They have support? NecroFlex#9105: can you give me the model of your laptop? The Tired Technician#8073: Are you saying you havent brought the issue to their attention? You should do that The Tired Technician#8073: Asus has actually pretty good support D.D.M#8226: Welp then The Tired Technician#8073: at least Asus USA D.D.M#8226: Ima go find my appropriate support page The Tired Technician#8073: Yes, please do that
The Tired Technician#8073: Also I would talk to AMD and Nvidia about it The Tired Technician#8073: At the very least bring the issue to their attention D.D.M#8226: Also the places i found people complaining about the same issue are mostly from amd forums The Tired Technician#8073: So my first guess may have been right on the mark The Tired Technician#8073: shoddy AMD driver teams and support D.D.M#8226: Ima first go to Asus The Tired Technician#8073: I would def do that Lady Mipha#0611: yes but nearly nothing supported it and if it did you would have issues with it exquisitedark#1117: i need help exquisitedark#1117: my laptop gets stuck on this screen when i put in the usb windows install https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/874686661051711498/IMG_20210810_191010.jpg exquisitedark#1117: but when i take it out it goes further and shows this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/874686790487900170/IMG_20210810_191122.jpg exquisitedark#1117: how do i make the usb install work exquisitedark#1117: tried it on my pc, it booted to the os exquisitedark#1117: so there's no need for the usb exquisitedark#1117: why does it say not found though
NecroFlex#9105: how old is the PC? NecroFlex#9105: because i've had some Core 2's and 1st gen i-series hang on the logo for well over 20min just to get to the windows language/KB selection part NecroFlex#9105: @exquisitedark try putting windows on a DVD and installing it like that, some PCs/laptops prefer that/some don't even see the USB as bootable and won't attempt to install from it Deleted User#0000: hit the F12 key repeatedly Deleted User#0000: or unless you have the little Vaio jingle Deleted User#0000: go to the BIOS (f2) exquisitedark#1117: 12 years NecroFlex#9105: C2D then, so either needs a while to get into the installer oor doesn't like to boot from USB Shaymin#7505: hey I need some pc help here. So long story short I got this super awesome gaming laptop from my friend (MSI GT72 Dominator Pro) for free, but theres a catch. His crazy EX tried to fix it herself cause it was being weird (it was a software thing not hardware) anyway she went into the bios and managed to bios password lock the computer on boot. Does anyone have a way of removing the password? I cant seem to reset the cmos back to default even after pulling out the battery and cmos battery. I ordered chips at this point cause I think my only option is to replace the cmos chip itself Dogecode#7321: i think you can contact msi and have them remove it Dogecode#7321: but you have to prove you own it Shaymin#7505: tried they said no JustinXenyx#8854: You could try reflashing the UEFI chip directly with one of those CH341 flasher thingies if you have them and can find a UEFI image Shaymin#7505: at that point Im better off just replacing the chip as a whole. Idk where I would even get the UEFI image from rriot#6100: There are websites that get rid of it for certain laptops
rriot#6100: Worked with quite a few for me Lady Mipha#0611: does I come up with a code if you don't get the password? Shaymin#7505: nope. After three tries it forces me to reboot Lady Mipha#0611: do you know what bios manufacturer it is? Shaymin#7505: no idea Lady Mipha#0611: the bios password may not be stored on the bios chip itself Deleted User#0000: did the "crazy ex" remembered the last password that he/she entered ? Shaymin#7505: Nope. As far as I know it was likely keyboard mashing Shaymin#7505: Where else would it be? Deleted User#0000: the bios' an APTIO / American Megatrends Lady Mipha#0611: on the TPM Lady Mipha#0611: yeah found out by reading the manual D.D.M#8226: Can you even boot into windows or any other drive D.D.M#8226: From what i know gaming laptops in general dont have alot of bios settings D.D.M#8226: So unless its preventing you from booting
D.D.M#8226: You should still be fine if you give it back Shaymin#7505: Guessing you have never played with a gaming laptop then. They usually full unrestricted bios’s Shaymin#7505: It’s locked on boot like I said D.D.M#8226: Ah then thats smth else Shaymin#7505: Also why would I give it back? It was given to me for free? He doesn’t want it he was gonna throw it out D.D.M#8226: Nah i was just saying if were to be used again D.D.M#8226: In general though that didn't come out right Dogecode#7321: if you cant get it working just pull the drive and ram and anything else you can get out of it and then get a barebones laptop you can populate with the stuff for cheap Dogecode#7321: if it has an mxm gpu thats even better D.D.M#8226: Also most gaming laptops ive used and checked the bios on dont have alot of settings in terms of cpu, gpu and ram configuration D.D.M#8226: But as marine corps said strip it and sell it or sell the whole thing Shaymin#7505: I’m gonna try the bios chip replacement thing first. D.D.M#8226: Welp ye do thta D.D.M#8226: That Shaymin#7505: Might as well. It would be good soldering practice
D.D.M#8226: Alright then good luck with that Dogecode#7321: does the replacement chip already have a bios? Since if it’s just a blank chip replacing it solves nothing Dogecode#7321: You still would need to use the clip and find a uefi image to load onto it JustinXenyx#8854: These chips usually get sold with the UEFI pre-flashed Foxious#1859: @Shaymin Im not sure if this was recommended already, but removing the battery and the bios battery has helped with all of my computers (except for my PowerMac G5's, which as professional computers take their security incredibly well) Foxious#1859: Usually this works as most computers don't use integrated clock chips or burn the passwords to the rom Foxious#1859: my apologies if this was already suggested but there is a wall of text to read through Shaymin#7505: I appreciate the recommendation, but I’ve already tried removing the cmos battery and still nothing T~T boog#9487: Just got my new laptop https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/875132045746126958/20210811_143044_HDR.jpg Din (Mája)#0264: looks so cool it'd cause resonance cascade Din (Mája)#0264: nice bezzels :D boog#9487: Thanks boog#9487: Bought it to replace my desktop I got in 2016 NecroFlex#9105: looks nice NecroFlex#9105: tho judging by the thiccness, it's a Max-Q variant
NecroFlex#9105: i hate Max-Q cards...just let the card boost itself to death, i want my frames! RyuuKuro#7616: ah yes i3 using 1500 watt RyuuKuro#7616: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/875372672261947422/unknown.png NecroFlex#9105: nice OC Maldwyno#6486: ello lads, I'm experiencing some issues with my dad's machine, replaced the graphics card Maldwyno#6486: replaced the cable Maldwyno#6486: and while booting we still get red pixels Maldwyno#6486: and in windows it flashes black and blue boxes appear Lady Mipha#0611: what's the cpu? Maldwyno#6486: 3900x Sony PS-FL77#3627: Now I'll assume you've already tried a different display too Though that seems unlikely to be related tbh... Maldwyno#6486: yeah I dunno Maldwyno#6486: wiggled the cables Maldwyno#6486: wiggled the ram
Maldwyno#6486: it had a 780ti in it Maldwyno#6486: I thought it was artifacting and I replaced it Maldwyno#6486: but it did the same with the other card Maldwyno#6486: was thinking it could be the pci slot or something Maldwyno#6486: it all happened after I gave it a clean and by clean I literally used a paint brush to wipe the fans and the dust off of it, didn't even touch the motherboard Maldwyno#6486: thinking it could be the pci slot Maldwyno#6486: but it does stop after a bit I think, just a bit worrying when it's first launched Alcyone#2233: Try the 2nd slot and see if it still does it Maldwyno#6486: yeah imma try that in a sec Maldwyno#6486: I'll update you lot brevs D.D.M#8226: Make sure the pcie connectors are clean, check pcie settings, check that the gpus are getting enough power, video cables D.D.M#8226: Though it looks like ram failure if all the above stuff is fine zwect#1210: https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/47580-kleiner-turing-ausbau-gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2070-windforce-8g-im-test.html?start=20 zwect#1210: is it safe for me to do this? zwect#1210: and yes i have that exact gpu
zwect#1210: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/876124850119397416/unknown.png NecroFlex#9105: yes NecroFlex#9105: it'll clock down if it hits big temps anyway NecroFlex#9105: you're just allowing it to have more power to use zwect#1210: ohh ok then im seeing bad perfomance on doom eternal's new update so maybe that will help a bit DarknessFalls229#2286: With the same as stock voltages it'll be absolutely safe, though when you experience a little instability, reduce the clockspeed a little bit zwect#1210: yup, i remember that oc thing resets everytime i restart the pc, idk why tho zwect#1210: oh? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/876125849215193098/unknown.png DarknessFalls229#2286: Perhaps received a background load that interupted the auto OC zwect#1210: yeah already fixed taht zwect#1210: that* zwect#1210: but wtf, 1.1 voltage? is that even safe? Alcyone#2233: You can't set an unsafe voltage on any gpu that can game today. vbios won't let it.
NecroFlex#9105: well, you can NecroFlex#9105: but needs physical modifications 😛 The Tired Technician#8073: Anyone in need of a working 6800 Ultra? DarknessFalls229#2286: I have interest DarknessFalls229#2286: Where abouts is it and how much would you like for it? The Tired Technician#8073: Its in my closet. And 250 USD. Not including shipping The Tired Technician#8073: Vendor is BFG The Tired Technician#8073: and its the OC Ultra Grockle#7163: whaaa DarknessFalls229#2286: Whoa, thats a lotta money The Tired Technician#8073: Thats about what its going for on ebay The Tired Technician#8073: broken, not working DarknessFalls229#2286: Aha... The Tired Technician#8073: Mine is working, for that price DarknessFalls229#2286: Well that dream of getting jam another 6800U shattered quickly
DarknessFalls229#2286: So yeah, nvm The Tired Technician#8073: Its the AGP model. So no SLi here The United States Air Force#7904: yes The United States Air Force#7904: umm The Tired Technician#8073: Hello. mi3night#2562: Sheesh mi3night#2562: 250 aud mi3night#2562: /convert 250 aud usd Currency Converter Bot#4703: 250.0 AUD = USD 189.10 mi3night#2562: I sold mine for $230 mi3night#2562: Nvm mi3night#2562: It’s ok deal Grockle#7163: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/876631162427146300/video0-19.mp4 Gamefreak924#5901: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH0bAeEm1Jw steamypotato#5293: What's y'all's thoughts on windows 11?
steamypotato#5293: It's been my main os for a bit Dogecode#7321: i think its gonna be worse than windows 10 but idk i switched 100% to linux recently steamypotato#5293: 11 is just 10 cosplaying as Mac os, at least to me The United States Air Force#7904: Gonna main Linux but also have a 10 and 11 system too The United States Air Force#7904: For stuff like games and cad Rea77y#6618: I have been maning it since the day you could I like it some weird shit but nothing bad LaeMat#0420: My taskbar is completely locked up. No icons show up, although the time is correct. Clicking on it causes explorer to restart, and it still happens. LaeMat#0420: Trying to open up settings shows this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/876970793538568252/PXL_20210816_232826439.jpg vegetal#8870: restart pc Alcyone#2233: noooo my gpu crashing is getting worse. time to switch to....gtx 560 while I teardown and troubleshoot this pos Alcyone#2233: twice today I was playing csgo and leading then it just black screened. reverse rage quit vegetal#8870: rip LaeMat#0420: It works in safe mode
LaeMat#0420: Also restarting doesn't fix anything vegetal#8870: chkdsk? LaeMat#0420: just type in chkdsk? LaeMat#0420: Windows says it found problems vegetal#8870: makes sense LaeMat#0420: Do I scan to fix it vegetal#8870: I think do chkdsk /f to fix LaeMat#0420: "chkdsk cannot run because the volume is in use by another process" vegetal#8870: run as admin? LaeMat#0420: It doesn't say anything about admin LaeMat#0420: Also it is running as admin vegetal#8870: are you in Safe mode or normal Lady Mipha#0611: ^^^^ Lady Mipha#0611: if in normal go to safe mode and try again LaeMat#0420: I'm in safe mode
vegetal#8870: weird vegetal#8870: any other programs open? LaeMat#0420: Oh I got it LaeMat#0420: Ironically it was because I tried using something called HostsMan to block ads within apps and used a host too big for it to handle LaeMat#0420: Because I had 250k entries NotSoComfy#8024: >Samsung Galaxy J7 >Not updated for 4.5 years (Marshmallow 6.0) >260 MB space left after cache clearing >Stuck in boot loop Fixable, Extractable, or Useless? NotSoComfy#8024: @Tech Helper JustinXenyx#8854: Which J7? There's multiple models NotSoComfy#8024: T JustinXenyx#8854: there's the J7, J7 2016 and J7 2017 Muse#0557: Sounds pretty useless
Muse#0557: A 2017 one would surely be nougat JustinXenyx#8854: Even the original J7 got updated to Android 7 Muse NotSoComfy#8024: I refused to update mine out of casual stubbornness and affinity for the look of the old style. I know, I'm a monster. Muse#0557: The horror NotSoComfy#8024: I was hoist by my own petard. Muse#0557: Which J7 is it JustinXenyx#8854: How long has this bootlooping issue been a thing for? JustinXenyx#8854: It could be a sign of the flash storage dying, which would make data recovery a bit gruesome NotSoComfy#8024: Two days. NotSoComfy#8024: J700T JustinXenyx#8854: J7 "2015" then JustinXenyx#8854: yeah gotta say, not much hope for the flash storage being alive JustinXenyx#8854: it's a phone with eMMC NotSoComfy#8024: Give it to me straight, doc. JustinXenyx#8854: Phone's most likely fucked
NotSoComfy#8024: Does my Micro SD have anything of value? JustinXenyx#8854: Depends on what you stored on it, although your microSD isn't affected if the flash storage of the phone dies JustinXenyx#8854: If you put like any photos, music etc on that microSD the data is still there NotSoComfy#8024: And anything in Cloud storage is unharmed? JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah that won't be harmed either JustinXenyx#8854: So if you didn't have anything of value on your phone storage, or have it all backed up, then you don't loose any data NotSoComfy#8024: Oh I did. years of music I made. NotSoComfy#8024: Can you delete applications in Recovery Mode to beef up storage space for firmware? NotSoComfy#8024: Oh I forgot to mention the phone, in its dying breaths was basically forcing itself to update. JustinXenyx#8854: Nah, although you should be able to access the phones storage in recovery phone NotSoComfy#8024: I need some reconciliation after such news. Am I the lostest of lost causes? Can I hear a horror story to make myself feel less irresponsible? JustinXenyx#8854: There's still a chance of being able to do data recovery and possibly force-flash the update or a previous version of Android through other means, but i might just start looking for a replacement phone JustinXenyx#8854: Lots of cheap and used phones out there that would be massive upgrades over your J7 The United States Air Force#7904: ^ Lady Mipha#0611: ^^
D.D.M#8226: i am surprised you didnt pick up one of the abundance of cheap sub 150$ 100$ phones D.D.M#8226: that wreck the j7 zwect#1210: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/877240748087578704/20210817_141909.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/877240748695748688/20210817_142113.jpg zwect#1210: :| zwect#1210: funny looking blown up thing there The United States Air Force#7904: F Deleted User#0000: oh no, what happened ? NecroFlex#9105: it's fine, it'll buff out Deleted User#0000: what did you even DO ? dexsters56#4904: Anyone interested in a FX cpu +mb? The United States Air Force#7904: if its a good prive The United States Air Force#7904: price*' dexsters56#4904: 40 euro for cpu and board thats with out shipping dexsters56#4904: the cpu is fx 4100 and mb is 760gm-p23 dexsters56#4904: shipping will depend where i need to post it to
The United States Air Force#7904: oh ur in europe The United States Air Force#7904: oof dexsters56#4904: but posting to kansas usa costs 15 euro dexsters56#4904: to other places its cheaper dexsters56#4904: so yeah dexsters56#4904: thats why im going to let the mb and cpu go for 40 because adding shipping might raise the price too high for something like this dexsters56#4904: if anyone interested dm me Gamefreak924#5901: Any software wizards here? I need help. Running an old game in a window when it doesn't natively have the ability. Empire Earth Gamefreak924#5901: The first installment. Not the second or third Bae#4506: F dexsters56#4904: Anyone got this kind of issue on a AMD RX gpu? im playing games and randomly the gpu usage just drops to 0 and ramps back up to 100% making the games have inputlag or insane stutters which doesnt show in normal monitoring software? dexsters56#4904: My specs i5-4440 2x4gb ddr3 1333 RX 460 4gb with no 6pin
350w psu rriot#6100: DDU and reinstall the drivers rriot#6100: Also could be that it’s related to the old drivers from nvidia dexsters56#4904: i do have nvidia drivers and alot of old amd catalist drivers dexsters56#4904: i just ddu'd the nvdia driver and amd driver and nothing difference :/ rriot#6100: If it’s not too much of a hassle reinstall Windows thanosks#3929: hey so thanosks#3929: i got a new ssd and thanosks#3929: i want to transfer windows and epic games to it thanosks#3929: only thanosks#3929: whats the easiest way to do it thanosks#3929: :gourmet: thanosks#3929: like there is cloning but i dont want to clone all of the files thanosks#3929: anyone? thanosks#3929: none?
thanosks#3929: i see D.D.M#8226: well D.D.M#8226: simplest is cloning it NecroFlex#9105: you've waited a whole 20min before getting annoyed no one responded :kekw: thanosks#3929: yes NecroFlex#9105: but yes, cloning is the most simple way to do it thanosks#3929: the thing cloning needs a bigger cloning drive to work NecroFlex#9105: especially because Shitpic Kek store has no way to actually transfer games, you can only reinstall them thanosks#3929: well i decided to reinstall the games and just have two boot drives NecroFlex#9105: no, as long as the files fit on the disk, doesn't matter if your old one is 1TB and the new one is 256gb thanosks#3929: they dont fit thanosks#3929: the hdd is 1tb 600gb taken up thanosks#3929: the ssd is 500 thanosks#3929: new thanosks#3929: it doesn't fit
NecroFlex#9105: unless you decide to clone sector by sector, then you need the same size disk yes NecroFlex#9105: well obviously NecroFlex#9105: cause you can't fit 600gb on 500gb :kekw: thanosks#3929: ik so what tf do i do thanosks#3929: i only want epic games and windows to be on the ssd thanosks#3929: and chrome thanosks#3929: but yea i can just reinstall chrome NecroFlex#9105: well move your uneeded shit to some other disk, delete it from the main disk and then clone thanosks#3929: i only have 2 drives thanosks#3929: :gourmet: NecroFlex#9105: well gl then NecroFlex#9105: you somehow need to get rid of atleast 150gb of files to be able to clone the disk NecroFlex#9105: you could potentially make the 1tb disk smaller and make a new 300gb partition and put files there NecroFlex#9105: since cloning takes into account the drives letter, not the whole drive NecroFlex#9105: depending on the softwware you use
thanosks#3929: i want very specific files there tho ;-; D.D.M#8226: well if you have two drives D.D.M#8226: you can use smth like macrium reflect thanosks#3929: i can partition the 1tb drive but D.D.M#8226: it doesnt copy sector by sector thanosks#3929: wouldn't that f up stuff D.D.M#8226: for you no D.D.M#8226: but wait D.D.M#8226: so D.D.M#8226: you have 1 drive where windows is D.D.M#8226: and other is like stuff D.D.M#8226: ? thanosks#3929: no thanosks#3929: there is an hdd thanosks#3929: 1tb
thanosks#3929: full of shit thanosks#3929: 600gb thanosks#3929: and then a new empty ssd thanosks#3929: 500gb D.D.M#8226: oh thanosks#3929: 450gb free bec u know y D.D.M#8226: then like necro said D.D.M#8226: free up what you can D.D.M#8226: then clone thanosks#3929: i want chrome epic games and the games i have there and windows 10 to boot faster D.D.M#8226: yes thanosks#3929: but if i clone i can't just do that D.D.M#8226: you can D.D.M#8226: but you need to go below 500gb D.D.M#8226: then depending on the software you can clone the drive then
thanosks#3929: i want to move like 30gb thanosks#3929: not even close to 500gb D.D.M#8226: welp D.D.M#8226: what you could do D.D.M#8226: partition the 1tb drive thanosks#3929: if i transfered stuff to another partition it would just take ages thanosks#3929: its the slowest hdd i could get XD D.D.M#8226: well thats the simplest way D.D.M#8226: going to usbs is slower too thanosks#3929: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/878301076296724510/IMG_20210820_183450.jpg thanosks#3929: this shit thanosks#3929: :gourmet: thanosks#3929: i want to use the ssd in my lifetime thanosks#3929: I don't want my grandchildren to use it when it finishes D.D.M#8226: bruh its 7200 rpm
D.D.M#8226: its fast D.D.M#8226: probs stuff is gonna go 50 mb/s D.D.M#8226: if you go from one partition to another thanosks#3929: the ssd is 3500mbs thanosks#3929: that hdd is 100% all the time thanosks#3929: and everything lags thanosks#3929: because of it D.D.M#8226: then thanosks#3929: I dont even know how thanosks#3929: but yea D.D.M#8226: well closest you can get to what i see is a fresh install D.D.M#8226: on the ssd thanosks#3929: thats what im planning to do thanosks#3929: :gourmet: D.D.M#8226: well there you go
D.D.M#8226: and remember the key thanosks#3929: its not activated thanosks#3929: :Yessi: thanosks#3929: :thumbsupcat: D.D.M#8226: well thanosks#3929: no key no worries D.D.M#8226: then just do a reinstall D.D.M#8226: simple as that thanosks#3929: mhm thanosks#3929: my problem would be the unused windows install thanosks#3929: on the hdd thanosks#3929: but yea D.D.M#8226: well just transfer all the stuff you need on the ssd D.D.M#8226: and then wipe the whole thing on the hdd thanosks#3929: ill see what I can do
lock dot 2#7946: Does anyone know why everytime I start my laptop from it being shut down, or asleep (it runs windows 7) it is disconnects from WIFI and I have to retype the password every time? I have it set to automatically connect. lock dot 2#7946: I also use a WIFI dongle on it due to the WIFI card the laptop has is very slow. BusoMaster별#4998: In the US you have prepaid phone Sony PS-FL77#3627: I'm noticing a distinct lack of context BusoMaster별#4998: A cheap one for like 15 USD at walmart BusoMaster별#4998: Even if u can only use It on wifi NecroFlex#9105: Burner phone? The United States Air Force#7904: Yeah DarknessFalls229#2286: @"Cobs" what was the max for FB-DIMMs again? Two of my micron sticks are running super hot, 95 and 99C under load "Cobs"#1150: you can go up to 105C "Cobs"#1150: iirc "Cobs"#1150: put a fan on top of them "Cobs"#1150: test the temp sensors too "Cobs"#1150: a lot of them in ddr2 era were faulty or didnt read properly "Cobs"#1150: ive replaced dozens of sticks that ended up being fine cause of wonky sensors
DarknessFalls229#2286: How do i check sensors? And i made a special funnel that exhausts the RAM are through two 120mm fans "Cobs"#1150: youre probably gonna need more air pressure than that "Cobs"#1150: theres a reason all the ddr2 servers were loud AF and had big fans in front of the memory "Cobs"#1150: have you got one of those laser temp checkers? DarknessFalls229#2286: Yeah, using cooler master fans, which are known to be a bit more silent DarknessFalls229#2286: Sorta yeah "Cobs"#1150: try one of those "Cobs"#1150: you may have to remove the heatsink off one side to properly check though DarknessFalls229#2286: Higherst readout i got was 82C, but im not going to remove any heatsinks DarknessFalls229#2286: So i think my micron chips are fine? They _seem_ to be running 10C higher than any other stick soooo... steamypotato#5293: I could use some help with my old mac if anyone is good with mac's, I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to Mac stuff Lady Mipha#0611: what's the model steamypotato#5293: A1811 late 2006 Lady Mipha#0611: photo? steamypotato#5293: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/878914289044439040/IMG_20210822_010918745_HDR.jpg
Deleted User#0000: yours ? steamypotato#5293: Ye Deleted User#0000: nice. core duo ? core **2** duo ? steamypotato#5293: Got it off someone for fixing there laptop. It's a core 2, yeah Deleted User#0000: ah. Deleted User#0000: you're gonna revamp it in order to use modern macOSes ? steamypotato#5293: I've tried before. It didn't work out but now it's my music laptop steamypotato#5293: Rn I'm just tryna get the battery to charge steamypotato#5293: And I have to fix the headphone port but that will probably take some soldering Deleted User#0000: just to refresh my memory : these use DDR2 or ddr3 sodimms ?. BusoMaster별#4998: I think ddr2 steamypotato#5293: It's an older a1181, so ddr2. There's like a dozen different Macs with the model number a1181 steamypotato#5293: I think it caps at 3gbs too Deleted User#0000: it caps at 3 gb of ram ? wut ? Deleted User#0000: you can't put 4 in ?
steamypotato#5293: Nope. I tried, then looked it up and it's cap is 3 Lady Mipha#0611: ah yes a late 2006 MacBook Lady Mipha#0611: chipset issue Deleted User#0000: what in the tomfuckery is this ? non-apple laptops from 2006 ***can*** support 4gb steamypotato#5293: It's like my xp computer. It caps at 2.5 and the board is from 2006 Deleted User#0000: core2 or pentium M ? steamypotato#5293: That computer is a desktop, p4 steamypotato#5293: I've got a pentium dual in it rn Deleted User#0000: aah, a pentium 4. Deleted User#0000: no wonder why these cap to 2.5gb steamypotato#5293: Yep Deleted User#0000: thank god they don't do that anymore$ steamypotato#5293: Yeah, low ram caps are annoying Lady Mipha#0611: 2006 only goes up to 10.7.5 steamypotato#5293: Theres a way to get to Yosemite supposedly with a patcher or whatever but it didn't work for me
steamypotato#5293: It being limited to lion is mostly why I just use it for music stuff Deleted User#0000: even with the dosdude1 patch ? Lady Mipha#0611: yes Lady Mipha#0611: 2006 MacBook only has a 32bit efi Lady Mipha#0611: apple ditched it in 10.8 Deleted User#0000: ah. steamypotato#5293: It's a shame tbh, the hardware could handle so much more without the 32 bit limit steamypotato#5293: I might but win 10 on it for fun Deleted User#0000: do it. it'll be a bit of a pain for the `Cmd, Alt, Option` keys Lady Mipha#0611: windows 10 also can't properly run on that macbook due to the 32bit efi steamypotato#5293: What about win 10 32 bit? NecroFlex#9105: i'm able to install W10 32bit on an old iMac 2006 C2D version, but it's quite the hastle Dogecode#7321: maybe linux would work better 😛 JustinXenyx#8854: Given that it's probably a Core 2 Duo, it cannot use more than 3GB of RAM if you upgrade it and it has a SATA 1 interface i wouldn't even bother with Windows 10 JustinXenyx#8854: Even if you chuck in an SSD into that laptop Windows 10 isn't gonna run well
DarknessFalls229#2286: @"Cobs" put in a few different fans, RAM temps now vary between 60-80 under a stress test "Cobs"#1150: careful with the batteries in those, i got one off ebay for cheap that wouldn't charge, yyou can try resetting the NVRAM but the safest thing to do is to remove the battery and buy a new one "Cobs"#1150: I had 2 bloated cells inside my one waiting to go pop. "Cobs"#1150: ayy nice The United States Air Force#7904: https://youtube.com/shorts/yzx0closR5s?feature=share she knows her shit dexsters56#4904: is the GPU usgae normal in a Game where the card should be sitting always at 99%?? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/879094809674014720/239073802_1189140368233043_5320843222741915843_n.jpg NecroFlex#9105: your CPU usage is maxed out, which means the CPU can't keep up with the GPU NecroFlex#9105: aka your CPU is bottlenecking your GPU NecroFlex#9105: oh wait NecroFlex#9105: it's an RX 460 DarknessFalls229#2286: i think his entire system is a bottleneck for the game NecroFlex#9105: well regardless, your CPU usage is high, your RAM usage is very high and your Vram is also almost maxed out NecroFlex#9105: kinda ye DarknessFalls229#2286: either he needs to upgrade everything, lower his ingame settings or play a different game DarknessFalls229#2286: though the 8GB of DDR3 might be the most detrimental
NecroFlex#9105: yeap, 8GB for newer games is the minimum NecroFlex#9105: up it to 16GB and you should see some performance lift NecroFlex#9105: because BO3 is known to eat up ram D.D.M#8226: Nah i have bo3 on pc D.D.M#8226: It doesn't eat that much ram D.D.M#8226: Check what you have in the background, though your pc should run it at low or medium dexsters56#4904: As it turned out bc my ssd had only 5 gb free space games started to lagg but now that i cleared out 30gb everything is ok gpu going to 100% and games becoming playable dexsters56#4904: My pc can run cod bo3 rn at high settings with low on the shadows DarknessFalls229#2286: Well, glad you resolved that dexsters56#4904: i also have a E5-2689 system with 16gb ram that shouldnt run into cpu issues dexsters56#4904: I opmed up taskmanager and saw google chrome eating up 50% of my cpu while it wasnt even open :/ D.D.M#8226: Bruh D.D.M#8226: Odd D.D.M#8226: Maybe that was also another part JustinXenyx#8854: Don't be so sure about that part
JustinXenyx#8854: While the E5 2689 has 8 cores, it's clocked pretty damn low JustinXenyx#8854: Games are using more and more cores by now, but clocks still matter JustinXenyx#8854: Base clock at around 2.6GHz and a max boost of 3.6GHz, considering it's a sandy bridge chip i'd say some games will definitely run into CPU performance issues dexsters56#4904: The games i play it doenst really get into issues, with that cpu i keep runing into gpu bottleneck NecroFlex#9105: i had an E5-2670 with a slight OC of 115 FSB, barely stable enough, but i managed 😛 It ran all my games with a 1070 on max settings 1080p with no issues till around a year ago when i upgraded to a 5600X NecroFlex#9105: bets xeons are V3's tho NecroFlex#9105: you can lock their turbo boost to all core steamypotato#5293: Hey, do y'all think this is worth it? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/879628497293836288/Screenshot_20210824-002728.png steamypotato#5293: No battery or hard drive. I seems to work otherwise, just needs a drive and a Mac os install NecroFlex#9105: if it's only those 2, then it's i guess ok for trying things out, but if it has a dedicated GPU in it, it could have been reheated back to life, C2D era nvidia/ati GPUs liked to die JustinXenyx#8854: Depends on why you wanna purchase it really steamypotato#5293: 50 bucks of fun ig. I just pick up random crap for fun JustinXenyx#8854: It's a maybe from me then steamypotato#5293: Dope. Imma think about it for a bit JustinXenyx#8854: Shouldn't buy it to actually use it since you can get sandy bridge laptops pretty cheap now and those offer far more usability in 2021 with OSs like Windows 10, but it can be a cool collectors thing to have fun with
Dogecode#7321: bet no charger Decent Apple ones are expensive steamypotato#5293: I have one steamypotato#5293: It was like 11 bucks and it's genuine ruang739#4039: I'm in need of a third opinion. I'm planning on buy an RX 6600 XT, though I'd like to know if my Antec VP 550 plus psu would be enough to run this card. I'm not planning to overclock and it'll be paired with an i5 3470(yes I'm well aware of a cpu bottleneck). Any advice would be welcome lock dot 2#7946: Question, why does a computer have a max ram limit? Even if it is the same DDR type? Like for example my laptop has a max limit of 2GB ddr2, and someones computer I fixed the motherboard on has a max of 4gb ddr2. Is it the CPU that can't handle that much ram? And what would happen if you put over the limit of ram into the computer? lock dot 2#7946: Or could it be due to my computer has a 32bit cpu and the other is 64 bit? NecroFlex#9105: Usually it's locked in the bios or the CPU doesn't support it, but some say it can only support 2gb but can support 4gn easily Dogecode#7321: some old old motherboards and cpus didn’t support above a certain amount of ram Dogecode#7321: but newer ones are mostly unlimited Alcyone#2233: chip density Alcyone#2233: still see the issue today, if you use 32gb dimms on say a z370 you are gonna have a bad time Alcyone#2233: these days it will probably still post but good luck getting above jdec on high capacity dimms that werent available when the boards were launched dexsters56#4904: Thats what im thinking. I did see someone selling a 5820K fpr 25€ but i missed the deal but i do see a 5820k eith X99 gaming 7 board for 200€ lock dot 2#7946: That is quite interesting! Thanks NecroFlex and Dogecode!
lock dot 2#7946: And Alcyone lock dot 2#7946: My laptop is a Dell Inspiron 1300, so it is getting on the older end for laptops. Recently got a ssd for it, didnt go well, due to I didnt realize it was IDE. So I had to get a IDE hdd instead lol steamypotato#5293: Not sure if I showed off my mac's custom apple logo https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/879994780514418688/PXL_20210825_074423962.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/879994781118373928/PXL_20210825_074429412.jpg lock dot 2#7946: That looks nice Steam! lock dot 2#7946: I bought a Kingston SSD for a laptop I want to start using, when I put it in it does not show in the BIOS, but in the Windows install it shows the ssd, though it can't install to it. When I put the SSD in my desktop it shows up and works just fine. Do you have any clue why? Thanks! NecroFlex#9105: because older laptops don+t like the A400 kingston NecroFlex#9105: the controller is crap and doesn't work well in older PCs/laptops steamypotato#5293: Thanks :) lock dot 2#7946: Arg! I should have gotten a Samsung SSD then, since they always work for me. Thanks for the info Necro! NecroFlex#9105: crucial works fine NecroFlex#9105: adata works fine NecroFlex#9105: but the a400 has that shitty phison11 controller NecroFlex#9105: which has A LOT of issues NecroFlex#9105: one of them being sudden death lock dot 2#7946: I managed to get the worst possible ssd it sounds like!
lock dot 2#7946: Then I'll try to return this one and get a adata since they are the same price. lock dot 2#7946: Thanks Necro! steamypotato#5293: Found a good deal on an SSD https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-850-Pro-512-GB-Internal-2-5-inch-MZ-7KE512BW-Solid-State-Drive-/265282462391?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=5282-175127-2357-0 steamypotato#5293: 10 pounds for a 120 gb NecroFlex#9105: i love how it says 512gb lol steamypotato#5293: Listed as a 512 for some reason steamypotato#5293: Yep steamypotato#5293: I'll see what shows up in a bit 😂 NecroFlex#9105: maybe the 512 is part of a lottery 😛 steamypotato#5293: Might be a scam but for this cheap it's worth the risk steamypotato#5293: Could be NecroFlex#9105: even if it is, ebay should have your back NecroFlex#9105: might buy some too, got a few laptops that need SSDs lock dot 2#7946: That is a funny mistake on there lol
lock dot 2#7946: I probably will go with Amazon due to Ebay takes well over a month to ship anything to my place. lock dot 2#7946: Well, that and there is about a 40% chance of it even getting here, stuff on Ebay keeps shipping to Yakutsk Russia, and then the package gets lost. Din (Mája)#0264: Does anyone have issues with Windows 10 automatically changing system sounds to default? Din (Mája)#0264: I have Windows 7 sound presets (as Win10 sounds are just too long for my taste...) but they keep defaulting every week NecroFlex#9105: i just disable everything but my headset :LUL: Din (Mája)#0264: I like some feedback, though :feelsgoodman: lock dot 2#7946: @Din (Mája) That seems to happen when you do the upgrade from Windows 7 to 10. That is what happened on my laptop with the now dead hdd, and my desktop. They both have Windows 7 sounds. lock dot 2#7946: I think there is a way to turn them off, I will look into it. Din (Mája)#0264: Nah, it's a clean Win10 Home install Din (Mája)#0264: I downloaded Win7 sound pack off the internet, because I hate Win10 sounds Din (Mája)#0264: But it keeps defaulting to Win10 sounds :'D Din (Mája)#0264: I set the custom Win7 sounds again, and it still reverts back to Win10 sounds after a week Din (Mája)#0264: Even after saving them many times xD Din (Mája)#0264: First world problems, but I found this kinda curious :') steamypotato#5293: What's y'alls favorite phone design?
Bertie Kemp#1114: Would this be any good for doing Engineering simulations? possibly increase RAM? Found it for £75 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/880324912630362182/unknown.png Foxious#1859: I cant really tell anything else than the Opteron 6300 was introduced somewhere around 2012. But, i dont know how demanding engineering simulations are Lady Mipha#0611: @"Cobs" "Cobs"#1150: You don't want Opterons for that. "Cobs"#1150: You need some decent Xeons and a GPU "Cobs"#1150: R730xd/r740xd lock dot 2#7946: I am having a very stupid problem, once again... I spent all day trying to get a cpu cooler off and it seems to be very stuck to the cpu still in the motherboard. I dont want to give it a lot of force to not break/bend any pins. Do you have any idea how to take this off? lock dot 2#7946: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/880395349804593182/20210826_031622.jpg lock dot 2#7946: That is quite weird Lady Mipha#0611: heat lock dot 2#7946: What kind of heat should I use? lock dot 2#7946: Or should I run a bench mark on it? It doesnt get too hot 60c Lady Mipha#0611: you need to heat the cooler up so the thermal paste softens lock dot 2#7946: Interesting, maybe a blowdryer will work. Lady Mipha#0611: yeah
lock dot 2#7946: I always thought it was running cool till yesterday, apparently 60c is almost its max running temp. lock dot 2#7946: I also unscrewed the screws thinking that would undo it and now they dont go back in. lock dot 2#7946: It is the screws holding the base of the cooler in. lock dot 2#7946: Do you think running the pc for a minute will be better? Sorry for the ping. Lady Mipha#0611: yes Lady Mipha#0611: try not to have the cpu fan running lock dot 2#7946: Okay, I will try that! Thank you! lock dot 2#7946: Why am I doing this at 3:30AM... lock dot 2#7946: Also I should of coarse turn the pc off before attempting to take the cooler off right? Lady Mipha#0611: yes Lady Mipha#0611: don't want fried motherboard lock dot 2#7946: Yup lock dot 2#7946: Just setting it up lock dot 2#7946: It wont be hard to get it to warm up at least, it has 1 core so it will be working hard doing nothing. lock dot 2#7946: If everything cold go wrong, it would be today it seems lol. Now the pfn list corrupt it says. Going to boot a different os then.
lock dot 2#7946: It is still stuck like it is in cement. Will go to the store in the morning and get a blow dryer to see if that does the job Deleted User#0000: maybe he didn't undo the latches of the AM2 socket Lady Mipha#0611: that's depends on manufacturer Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/880408509932535909/unknown.png lock dot 2#7946: @Lady Mipha I can show you what I have in a video call if you want/ lock dot 2#7946: I did undo the latch I think. Deleted User#0000: you need to undo them and push the metal tabs off lock dot 2#7946: There is no metal tabs I can see 🤔 lock dot 2#7946: I can show you in a video if you want. Deleted User#0000: no need to. what's the processor ? lock dot 2#7946: I had to push a big tall lever and it undid a few hooks lock dot 2#7946: It is a AMD LE-1640 and the computer is a emachine 1161-05 Deleted User#0000: is the fan still not moving tho ? lock dot 2#7946: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/880409567920549968/20210826_041300.jpg lock dot 2#7946: I undid that
lock dot 2#7946: Nope, it is in like a rock lock dot 2#7946: I also unscrewed the cooler mount and can't seem to screws it back in. lock dot 2#7946: It's like there was something behind the motherboard holding the screws in or something, due to the screws just sit in the holes now. Deleted User#0000: there ***is*** a bracket. but it's not meant to be removed like Intel CPUs. lock dot 2#7946: Oh... I did it like a Intel cpu... lock dot 2#7946: Maybe I should look into the difference between intel and amd next time 😅 Deleted User#0000: yes ! you just need to undo the retention clips and pull, and if it doesn't budge, twist the cooler a bit, it'll maybe undo the thermal paste holding it in. (DON'T TWIST TOO HARD !! go **GENTLY**) lock dot 2#7946: I have tried that as well Deleted User#0000: what kind of thermal paste is this ? stock eMachines thermal paste ? lock dot 2#7946: I honestly don't know, I know the computer came with a AMD LE-1620 CPU and someone upgraded it to a AMD LE-1640 in the past, I have never tooken this apart. lock dot 2#7946: I am assuming it is not any eMachine thermal paste. lock dot 2#7946: Not sure what brand it is. Deleted User#0000: it's still pretty dire in performance compared to intel offerings. Deleted User#0000: yeet everything out and extract the motherboard lock dot 2#7946: Yeah, it is not that fast. It gets a 200 score on cinebench r23
lock dot 2#7946: What do you mean? Deleted User#0000: remove the components plugged into the motherboard and take the thing apart lock dot 2#7946: Ah! Okay lock dot 2#7946: That should be easy, since it does not have much. lock dot 2#7946: Do I take the motherboard out? Deleted User#0000: yes lock dot 2#7946: Okay lock dot 2#7946: Give me a bit, never took a motherboard out. Going to clean my hands 1st. Deleted User#0000: okay. what will the eMachine be used for ? lock dot 2#7946: It is my dads computer when he is here. lock dot 2#7946: So, Youtube, Ebay, Amazon, and stuff like that. Deleted User#0000: aaah. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/880412663295918101/unknown.png lock dot 2#7946: Yup lock dot 2#7946: And it still has its "new" stickers on the side Deleted User#0000: it has it's warranty seal ?