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D4V1D#9593: And put it in full screen
D4V1D#9593: The screen goes grey
D4V1D#9593: Lemem try again
D4V1D#9593: But this time
D4V1D#9593: Don't run anything in full screen
D4V1D#9593: Maybe I should use the igpu for the bios update??
DarknessFalls229#2286: you could
D4V1D#9593: How lilkey is it even for it to crash
D4V1D#9593: Using my gpu
DarknessFalls229#2286: depends on whats unstable
DarknessFalls229#2286: the RAM or GPU
D4V1D#9593: Hmm
D4V1D#9593: Should I run mem86 first then
DarknessFalls229#2286: lemme ask this
D4V1D#9593: But can ram cause it to die when things are in full screen |
D4V1D#9593: Ok
DarknessFalls229#2286: the previous times that youve run that, has anything come out of it?
D4V1D#9593: Hm?
D4V1D#9593: Mem86?
DarknessFalls229#2286: what else
D4V1D#9593: I haven't run mem86 yet
D4V1D#9593: That's why I was doing the partions
D4V1D#9593: N stuff
DarknessFalls229#2286: aha
DarknessFalls229#2286: well, do whatever man
D4V1D#9593: Dude I can't dooo anything
D4V1D#9593: I open up task manager
D4V1D#9593: Crashes
D4V1D#9593: Google
D4V1D#9593: Gone |
DarknessFalls229#2286: then go back to a damned configuration that does work
D4V1D#9593: The 1x4gb worked well yesterday
D4V1D#9593: Ah nah dude
D4V1D#9593: As soon as I took out the 1x4gb ram
D4V1D#9593: Wait no the other stick
D4V1D#9593: The gpu did this again
D4V1D#9593: https://streamable.com/bkezol
DarknessFalls229#2286: never seen that kinda artifact
D4V1D#9593: Honestly I think we should give up
DarknessFalls229#2286: is that with the driver installed?
D4V1D#9593: Yes
DarknessFalls229#2286: hmmmm
DarknessFalls229#2286: can you swap the RAM stick with the one you just took out?
DarknessFalls229#2286: also make sure you properly push it in fully
D4V1D#9593: The thing is |
D4V1D#9593: After I restarted ir
D4V1D#9593: It
D4V1D#9593: It worked fine
DarknessFalls229#2286: well then
DarknessFalls229#2286: does it _still_ work fine?
D4V1D#9593: Like boot up normally and stuff?
D4V1D#9593: Yea
DarknessFalls229#2286: and does it do windows fine?
D4V1D#9593: Ye
DarknessFalls229#2286: so its just working now?
D4V1D#9593: Yea
D4V1D#9593: No artifacts
DarknessFalls229#2286: no crashes either?
D4V1D#9593: Oh wait
D4V1D#9593: My faulr |
D4V1D#9593: It cant boot into windows anymore
DarknessFalls229#2286: ...
D4V1D#9593: It shut down
DarknessFalls229#2286: should i even ask at this point?
D4V1D#9593: Then I turned it on
D4V1D#9593: Nah
D4V1D#9593: We should give up
DarknessFalls229#2286: k
D4V1D#9593: Honestly I think the gpus borked
D4V1D#9593: I will do mem86 when I take it out and use the igpu
D4V1D#9593: I'm sorry dude
D4V1D#9593: Sorry for waiting your time
D4V1D#9593: Man If only cex could test properly
D4V1D#9593: I'll send them pictures and hopefully they don't say something like my pc can't handle it or something
D4V1D#9593: I did tell them it was working perf before |
D4V1D#9593: @DarknessFalls229 anything else I should do before I remove the gpu?
D4V1D#9593: Damn now the thing don't post
D4V1D#9593: https://streamable.com/d24ew6
D4V1D#9593: It starts for like a second
D4V1D#9593: Then stops
D4V1D#9593: Idk if its my psu all this time
D4V1D#9593: Idk
D4V1D#9593: Probably my ram
D4V1D#9593: Since I don't think I put it in properly
Alcyone#2233: probably hitting some protection circuit make sure the ram us fully seated and locked in on both sides
D4V1D#9593: Yea
D4V1D#9593: They are locked both sides
D4V1D#9593: Mem ok says its working
D4V1D#9593: I wanna try replacing the 24pin
HappySlappyFace#0441: it seems like protection circuit |
HappySlappyFace#0441: like alcyone said
D4V1D#9593: Wheres the protection circuit?
D4V1D#9593: I guess it's power cycling now
D4V1D#9593: Problem fixed
D4V1D#9593: Using the igpu
D4V1D#9593: Working well
D4V1D#9593: @DarknessFalls229 Does this look normal then before i flash the ussb? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/888476074269368350/unknown.png
DarknessFalls229#2286: dunno why you put a new volume on that 250MBs
DarknessFalls229#2286: a bit useless
D4V1D#9593: lmao
D4V1D#9593: Okay ill remove that then
D4V1D#9593: Is this better? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/888476327605309450/unknown.png
DarknessFalls229#2286: i guess
D4V1D#9593: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/888476552227090552/unknown.png
D4V1D#9593: Ye this is the bios im using currently https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/888477022697955418/unknown.png |
D4V1D#9593: @DarknessFalls229 Like this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/888478517908615218/unknown.png
DarknessFalls229#2286: mhm
D4V1D#9593: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/888479394107125770/20210917_183938.jpg
D4V1D#9593: Is that really it?
DarknessFalls229#2286: yes
D4V1D#9593: There's no input
D4V1D#9593: Nvm
D4V1D#9593: Lmao that's really it
DarknessFalls229#2286: a bit quick to conclusions
D4V1D#9593: Yea it's updated now
D4V1D#9593: Alright, should I ddu and install the gpu again?
DarknessFalls229#2286: sure, you can try to see if the issue is now resolved
D4V1D#9593: Ok
D4V1D#9593: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/888480576552697866/unknown.png
Dogecode#7321: you should install the driver from amd website |
D4V1D#9593: Yea
D4V1D#9593: Thats most likely going to mess me up even more
D4V1D#9593: Anyway to remove it?
DarknessFalls229#2286: windows drivers arent necessarily bad
DarknessFalls229#2286: usually just incomplete and outdated
DarknessFalls229#2286: but just work
D4V1D#9593: Hm okay
D4V1D#9593: Imma head into safe mode now
D4V1D#9593: Is it possible to flash the vbios?
DarknessFalls229#2286: it is
D4V1D#9593: Do you think we should if this doesn't work
DarknessFalls229#2286: you could
D4V1D#9593: Worth it?
DarknessFalls229#2286: depends on whether it works
D4V1D#9593: so far so good |
D4V1D#9593: Was able to open up discord
D4V1D#9593: The gpu is running at pcie 2.0 instead of 3.0
D4V1D#9593: huh, it keeps changing
D4V1D#9593: One moment its running at 2.0 the other 3.0
D4V1D#9593: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/888487408587407410/unknown.png
D4V1D#9593: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/888487440422154320/unknown.png
DarknessFalls229#2286: well, it goes to a lower standard to save power
D4V1D#9593: oh thats cool
DarknessFalls229#2286: so do a stresstest to see what its really running at
D4V1D#9593: kk
D4V1D#9593: I wanna try a smaller stress test first tho
D4V1D#9593: Maybe unigine
D4V1D#9593: @DarknessFalls229 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/888490313038049340/20210917_192300.jpg
DarknessFalls229#2286: nice
D4V1D#9593: Yea |
D4V1D#9593: I'm just gonna let it run while I scroll through YouTube
D4V1D#9593: Maybe run it for like 20 mins
zwect#1210: im thinking about moving to an NVME but will it endure a good time?
zwect#1210: this is my main C: drive which i've been using since 2019~ or sum https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/888755757892390912/unknown.png
zwect#1210: and it was already used before that
zwect#1210: 970 pro 250gb, more like that
inactive#2783: eh, that's not too bad
inactive#2783: Most modern SSDs, especially the bigger ones, are rated for around 100TBw+
zwect#1210: hmm
inactive#2783: My old ones from like 2008, however, are only rated for like 50-70TBw lol
zwect#1210: lol
zwect#1210: my kingspec 480gb ssd has more nand writes than my C: drive
inactive#2783: hmm
zwect#1210: and i only used it for 4000 hours
inactive#2783: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/888768867160195132/unknown.png |
inactive#2783: this is my C: drive
zwect#1210: i found a guy selling a 500gb 980 pro for a good price but it has like 7800 power on hours and 78 TERABYTES of host writes
zwect#1210: that may explain the low price
zwect#1210: i guess?
zwect#1210: hmm
inactive#2783: That drive is rated/warrantied for 300TBw
inactive#2783: but uhh, I wouldn't buy an SSD that used unless it was a great deal or the data I'm putting on it isn't important
D.D.M#8226: or atleast it doesn have alot of power on times and hours or writes
D.D.M#8226: i only buy stuff that has less than 10000gb written
D.D.M#8226: maybe slightly more but i generaly dont risk it as i was bamboozled once
Oma#4564: anyone know any good programs for linux mint?
inactive#2783: fair enough
inactive#2783: For me, it just depends on what I'm using it for
D4V1D#9593: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/312451560386222/
D4V1D#9593: 770 for 70 pounds |
Shaymin#7505: does anyone in here have experience with modding the wii?
Shaymin#7505: I need some help
Shaymin#7505: got questions
Deleted User#0000: My C: drive on the other hand https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/889765258833563648/unknown.png
Deleted User#0000: Been using this drive since March 2017 btw
D.D.M#8226: You are so lucky
D.D.M#8226: I have a hard drive that doesn't have that many reads and writes or power on counts and hours and it got bad
D.D.M#8226: And was barely moved around
Deleted User#0000: I have three seagates in here
Deleted User#0000: One of which is the ominous 7200.11
Deleted User#0000: They all work just fine actually…
Deleted User#0000: Oh the m.2 has been through at least four motherboards at this point
Deleted User#0000: While the 2tb seagates have been through three (2018 for storage, 2012 for games)
D.D.M#8226: Damn
DarknessFalls229#2286: Ive only softmodded the wii with letterbomb |
Shaymin#7505: I figured it out actually and it currently doesn’t matter cause my Wii is artifacting so I have to wait on a new mobo
DarknessFalls229#2286: damn, a wii artifacting? havent heard of that before
D.D.M#8226: Maybe reflash the emmc?
D.D.M#8226: If you see weird stuff on the main menu
D.D.M#8226: And not everywhere
NecroFlex#9105: I have a 2013 Toshiba 1tb hdd, only use it for torrents, at some point it got around 3000 bad sectors, moved my important shit off of it. Now it's a torrent drive and it works perfectly, no slowdowns, no clicks, nothing, as if it's in perfrct condition
NecroFlex#9105: Has been like that for 3 or so years now
NecroFlex#9105: Idk what Toshiba did, but their drives can't be killed
NecroFlex#9105: Also have an old 10gb seagate from the late 90's i think
NecroFlex#9105: Bad boy has a total of around 2900 working days iirc, not at home atm
D.D.M#8226: I have 3 drives with bad sectors, and one them according to crystaldiskinfo also has write failure and ye its right, cus most of the time it fails to write
D.D.M#8226: And 1 completely dead 5400 rpm laptop drive from wd
D.D.M#8226: Its not detected at all
D.D.M#8226: I personally dont trust any drive with errors
D.D.M#8226: From "cough" past experience |
NecroFlex#9105: Same, that's why it became my torrent drive, i just wanted to see how far i could push it
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I have one pretty dead drive
5490rpm 720GB laptop drive which is like
Functionally intact
But massively slowed down
Might be improved with a defrag but frankly didn't care then and don't care now
inactive#2783: nice
NecroFlex#9105: I use HDDregenerator for trying to fix some slightly bad drives
NecroFlex#9105: Some bad sectors are anomalies
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I'm farrrr too lazy
NecroFlex#9105: Does take a while yea and it prefers DOS mode rather than in windows + IDE rather than AHCI
NecroFlex#9105: And this is mostly for disks with either a few bad sectors or that have "read" wrror
NecroFlex#9105: Error*
Deleted User#0000: Lol so have I
But last time I modded a Wii was 2017 so I didn’t know of the license agreement method yet |
Deleted User#0000: Shit. Guess a new board isn't exactly my solution to my flash drive issues. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/889890326465089556/unknown.png
Deleted User#0000: I'm narrowing it down to two things at this point.
- AMD 400 series chipset
- My sandisk flash drives are just old. or maybe that they're SanDisk drives?
DarknessFalls229#2286: wasnt there some sort of USB bug in the AMD boards?
Deleted User#0000: Oh?
Deleted User#0000: I did hear 300 and 400 series chipsets aren't that great
DarknessFalls229#2286: idk, download to the latest recommended bios
Deleted User#0000: Oh true
Deleted User#0000: This is on the 6/10/2020 BIOS
Deleted User#0000: while my Sus board was on an August 2021 BIOS
Deleted User#0000: Oh the newest BIOS for this board is from May 2021. Don't think it will make much difference but I may as well update the BIOS.
Shaymin#7505: I don’t even know where to begin with that
D.D.M#8226: i know you can
D.D.M#8226: but how idk |
inactive#2783: Ooo
inactive#2783: We talking about Wii stuff?
D.D.M#8226: yep
D.D.M#8226: skyways wii is artifacting
D.D.M#8226: though i havent seen any artifacting wiis at all, i am thinking its the software thats corrupted
inactive#2783: oof, I've never seen an artifacting wii either
zwect#1210: would it be worth it to upgrade my gpu?
zwect#1210: (my nickname tells what cpu i have)
zwect#1210: and which one
Racey#8574: Why would you need to upgrade your gpu
zwect#1210: idk my father is telling me some "good oportunities" on gpu upgrades
zwect#1210: and says how already a 2080 would be a big change
zwect#1210: 190$ plus my gpu to get a 2080 according to him
Racey#8574: Your 2070 should be fine for basically every game
Racey#8574: It'd be better to wait until the crisis is over |
Racey#8574: In probably 2 or so years
zwect#1210: yeah it really is
zwect#1210: i never saw a problem other than poorly optimized games
D.D.M#8226: like robs says, your gpu is perfectly fine, so just wait until this shortage is all over and maybe get a 3070 or nvidias next card maybe
D.D.M#8226: personally i would go for a 3070 cus its power demands are lighter than the 2080 while offering same performance
D.D.M#8226: maybe better
zwect#1210: hmmm
Shaymin#7505: I can go and load it up to show yall
Shaymin#7505: if you like
Shaymin#7505: sorry been busy modding a monitor mount and doing errands
inactive#2783: it's fine
inactive#2783: I'm really busy myself anyways
Shaymin#7505: yee
Shaymin#7505: I cant wait to release a video on this project. Im excited personally! Its just the right amount of stupid and flex.
inactive#2783: what's the project |
Shaymin#7505: Its a surprise
Shaymin#7505: 😉
inactive#2783: lol
Shaymin#7505: x3
Shaymin#7505: Im sure budget might appreciate the novelty behind it even
Shaymin#7505: I will go to regular chat now cause I dont wanna clog up this chat
The United Earth citizen#0382: Any experience with cheap aluminium mousepads? How are they with gliding/grip, tracking, sensor glitches?
Rea77y#6618: Hyelp
Rea77y#6618: The gt 630 isn't recognized by my pc
Rea77y#6618: It won't give me display out
Rea77y#6618: I know it is working for sure since it ran in my "monstrosity" for over 3 months
Rea77y#6618: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/890322759484330054/20210922_224438.jpg
Rea77y#6618: I tried unplugging everything connected to the 1070 but nothing gave up and the second i connected it back display out
Rea77y#6618: I would disconnect the 1070 completely the problem is though that the stupid pcie slot holder thing sucks
Rea77y#6618: Gonna try cutting power to the 1070 let's see if pc will do something |
Rea77y#6618: Tried it sadly nothing
Alcyone#2233: will the 630 run if its the only card in?
Rea77y#6618: On another system yes
Rea77y#6618: I can see the fan spinning
Rea77y#6618: Mobo doesn't recognize it either https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/890325102275727470/20210922_225344.jpg
Rea77y#6618: OK fucking around with the connection movo now sees it
LaeMat#0420: probably a very hard question to solve but does anyone know the type of font used on this? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/890769887667052554/stopcode_background_4.png
Dogecode#7321: doubt its anything specific
LaeMat#0420: or something close?
Dogecode#7321: you could probably find something but idk
Dogecode#7321: looks like it would be pretty easy to just make it yourself in ms paint or whatever too
LaeMat#0420: some types of the Geneva font look close
LaeMat#0420: the bitmap ones i searched up did
LaeMat#0420: and they were used by apple
vegetal#8870: kinda looks like vcr osd mono |
LaeMat#0420: It does but it's not the same
LaeMat#0420: Pretty sure early MacOS used Geneva 9
D.D.M#8226: Any recommendations on what driver version of the nvidia driver do i use in linux? The proprietary or the open source
D.D.M#8226: Ive heard the proprietary one is a bit shit
Dogecode#7321: they’re both rough
Dogecode#7321: but I think I’ve had better luck with proprietary
D.D.M#8226: Hm alr
JustinXenyx#8854: The proprietary driver is better but both are kinda dogshit
Lady Mipha#0611: ^^^^^
Atreea#2307: can anyone help with my ryzen 3600? it runs waay to hot even under water with 240mm
Atreea#2307: like this hot on 4.1 1.2v https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/891520738354405426/unknown.png
Lady Mipha#0611: :Bruhh:
Grockle#7163: Is the pump running?
Lady Mipha#0611: ^^^^
Grockle#7163: Also, what voltage? |
Lady Mipha#0611: 1.2
Lady Mipha#0611: 4.1ghz @ 1.2v
Lady Mipha#0611: look above the photo
Atreea#2307: yes
Atreea#2307: also this system is weird
Atreea#2307: if i try to use ryzen master advance mode it just crashes the app so im forced to use hwinfo
Atreea#2307: my room temp is about 30c if that helps
Lady Mipha#0611: got any airflow in the case for the radiator
Atreea#2307: its at the front soo
Atreea#2307: it should i guess
Atreea#2307: and its a mesh case too
Lady Mipha#0611: what case is it in?
Atreea#2307: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/891522414687703080/unknown.png
Atreea#2307: this case
Atreea#2307: rad at the front |
Atreea#2307: raptor 1606
Lady Mipha#0611: :Thonking:
Atreea#2307: its a local brand soo no big reviews obv :Xdxdxd:
Atreea#2307: idles at 50c, 1.22v , at p95 smallest drops to 1.18v, temp climbs from 90 to 95 slowly
Lady Mipha#0611: your room temp doesn't help matters
Atreea#2307: i live in southeast asia so cant help it :Xdxdxd:
Lady Mipha#0611: :Oof:
Atreea#2307: so far i repaste it twice
Atreea#2307: using a gd900 paste
Atreea#2307: same result
Lady Mipha#0611: I would say its due to the water reaching a point where it can't cool itself properly
Atreea#2307: but after 1 min of p95 ? :Thonking:
Grockle#7163: well
Grockle#7163: that isn't exactly great paste either
Atreea#2307: isnt 4.8w/mk semi decent for paste ? |
Atreea#2307: if not i guess i have to get kryonaut at some point :JellyBeanFace:
Atreea#2307: also why is core 4 10c below core 5 :Xdxdxd: reminds me of nehalem with the difference in temp
Lady Mipha#0611: possibly a hot spot maybe
Atreea#2307: so i repasted it with an even smaller paste dot and now its hovering at 89-90c
Atreea#2307: instead of 95
Atreea#2307: hottest core 90, coolest 81...
Atreea#2307: still quite bad for water right ?
Lady Mipha#0611: yeah
Atreea#2307: what temp should i target ? i might get a kryonaut soon
Atreea#2307: to see if it will help
Lady Mipha#0611: 75c
Atreea#2307: :Thonking: how
Atreea#2307: even using pbo i dont think it can get that low
Lady Mipha#0611: but since your in a hot environment I would say 80 - 85c
Atreea#2307: ic |
Atreea#2307: thx for the advice
Atreea#2307: oh wait nvm the repaste made no difference
Atreea#2307: hits 95c anyways
Atreea#2307: :FeelsBadMan:
Cpt. Scott Miller#9251: Hey guys my PC has started to have BSODs and I have no idea why. The error I got is "Memory managment" so I checked my memory modules, they dont seem to have any problem. I also used Memory Diagnostic tool and no errors. After the first BSOD I noticed that Hard Disk Sentinel shows 2 bad sectors for one of my hard drives, I tried to repair them with Hard Disk Sentinel. At first it seemed it fixed it but yester I got a BSOD, and I have 2 bad sectors again. I tried SFC /scannow too, and found no errors. Do guys you have any idea what could cause the BSODs?
Atreea#2307: if its hdd erroring out usually its pagefile error so i dont think so, try toning down the memory a bit and see what will happen
Atreea#2307: or bump soc voltage by 1 notch if ryzen
Cpt. Scott Miller#9251: I can do that in the BIOS, right?
Atreea#2307: yea
Atreea#2307: memorymgmt is when memory is unstable in my case
Atreea#2307: so drop the speed/timings or bump the voltage
Cpt. Scott Miller#9251: I am not sure my BIOS can do that but I will try it
Atreea#2307: or even a resocket of the memory can help kek
Atreea#2307: i usually do those 3 when my pc goes whakc
Cpt. Scott Miller#9251: My Bios is too old so i will try to resocket the memory sticks |
Atreea#2307: what ?
Cpt. Scott Miller#9251: I meant the BIOS dont have options for memory so I cant change voltage
Cpt. Scott Miller#9251: Because I have an old Fujistsu motherboard
Atreea#2307: ic
Atreea#2307: well its quite hard to troubleshoot if the bios is limited
Atreea#2307: maybe someone else can join it to help
Cpt. Scott Miller#9251: Yeah
Atreea#2307: damn my hdd is going in and out
Atreea#2307: under sustained write/read load it times out and goes for a sec then comes back
Atreea#2307: wonder i if its power or sata cable
Cpt. Scott Miller#9251: Well i am not sure if resocketing fixed it, I hope it did. If I get a BSOD again I will write. Thank you for your help Atreea
navibu#7218: Hey guys my graphics card is dead and I need a temporary replacement
navibu#7218: I found one guy is selling a GT740 for cheap but I feel suspicious about it
navibu#7218: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/891990654207524864/IMG_20210927_170828.jpg
navibu#7218: Is that okay? |
Budget#8265: That shader count looks low
Budget#8265: Looks like a lowerend card flashed
Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/891991508255932457/unknown.png
navibu#7218: Okay thanks
Budget#8265: Might not be a GT730 but doesn’t look much better than that
JustinXenyx#8854: Not sure if the seller is using an old GPU-Z version on purpose, but any semi-modern version from like the last year or so would instantly flag that card as fake
JustinXenyx#8854: Like Budget said, it's most likely some lower end card flashed with a different BIOS so it says it's a 740 while it isn't actually one
navibu#7218: The seller also sent me the picture of the card
navibu#7218: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/891996675919446036/IMG_20210927_173503.jpg
navibu#7218: Looks kinda a fake one
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah that shit is fake as hell
Lady Mipha#0611: also another thing why would it run at 1.1 pcie speeds
inactive#2783: I'd give him like $10 for that lol
Dogecode#7321: wonder what card it really is
If it’s actually a gt 730 it seems silly to just flash it to a gt 740 bios |
Dogecode#7321: If you’re gonna fake it just make it a 1050ti or whatever
inactive#2783: hmm, yeah
Dogecode#7321: but yea a real gt 740 has far more shaders
Dogecode#7321: there aren’t any gpus associated with the gk107 in techpowerup with 96 cores
Dogecode#7321: it’s sus
D.D.M#8226: and the shroud also looks like its the old types of shrouds that nvidia used
D.D.M#8226: and the logo
D.D.M#8226: so it might not even be a 700 series
Dogecode#7321: shroud looks entirely fake
Alcyone#2233: shader config is gt 430/630/730 but the low clocks and 2gb ddr3 makes me think its the fermi
zwect#1210: i was curious about a certain thing, can we precisely measure a gpu's power consumption by plugging the pin cables on an external PSU and use something like a kill a watt?
zwect#1210: im asking bcuz idk if gpus above 75w also pull the pcie power while pulling from the pin cables
JustinXenyx#8854: Nope
JustinXenyx#8854: To get actually precise GPU power measurements you need to measure the current across every power source, so the PCIe slot power and the 6/8 pin PCIe power ports
zwect#1210: oh |
zwect#1210: sheesh
JustinXenyx#8854: GPUs don't necessarily pull 75W from the PCIe slot too, especially so if they have multiple power connectors
zwect#1210: hmm
JustinXenyx#8854: Another reason why your proposed way of measuring power consumption isn't particularly precise is that even if you put the GPU on a seperate PSU and try to measure the PSUs power draw you're doing *just that*
JustinXenyx#8854: If you're measuring the PSUs power draw you're not just measuring the GPUs power draw, but also all of the components inside of the power supply, power lost to heat in the PSU and efficiency losses so it wouldn't be particularly precise for measuring the GPUs power draw
zwect#1210: Oh
zwect#1210: damn
zwect#1210: it would be more useful to measure the whole pc's power draw instead huh?
zwect#1210: since i would do that to make some points to some of the people here who pay the bills
JustinXenyx#8854: It would certainly be a whole lot more useful, especially if you have a known baseline
JustinXenyx#8854: btw: GPU power measurements via software aren't particularly precise but they're accurate enough for most purposes
zwect#1210: yeah i've seen that
zwect#1210: sadly mine are only percentages
zwect#1210: shown on aida64
Alcyone#2233: hwinfo will give you a gpu power measurement in watts. you could use a current clamp on the pcie power cables then work out roughly how much it is pulling from the motherboard slot |
JopeSane#2283: That is a very weird looking card
JopeSane#2283: Almost love it
Deleted User#0000: Just sold my ryzen 5 3600 for $10 more than what I paid for it. but now I need to ship it, what would be a good way to package a PGA CPU if I don't have one of those plastic protectors it woulda shipped with?
ＸＩＶＩＸ 畝゙河#5962: hello
ＸＩＶＩＸ 畝゙河#5962: after enabling uefi in windows
ＸＩＶＩＸ 畝゙河#5962: while booting till the windows boots the screen is black
ＸＩＶＩＸ 畝゙河#5962: probably bc it is runnin on integrated bc i tested it before and it was
ＸＩＶＩＸ 畝゙河#5962: how can i change the boot sequence to run on the gpu
ＸＩＶＩＸ 畝゙河#5962: fixed it
Deleted User#0000: already got my cpu packaged and sent
Racey#8574: Stonks
Racey#8574: $10 profit
Deleted User#0000: Stonks
vegetal#8870: why did you sell it?
Deleted User#0000: Tired of playing the ryzen lottery for now |
Deleted User#0000: Rather than singling out components that may be causing my usb issues I may as well sell what I've got now
Deleted User#0000: And wait until next year or whenever hardware prices are back to normal to build an all-new pc
The United Earth citizen#0382: did anybody here try undervolting the GTX 280? I'm trying to figure out the best way to output S-Video signal
lock dot 2#7946: Hello- what is a good psu brand? I have a old Seasonic psu and is does not have 8 pin power for gpu's. Thanks!
Racey#8574: It really depends
Racey#8574: I personally use an EVGA PSU but good brands can make shit PSUs and bad brands can (occasionally) make good PSUs
Alcyone#2233: my tesla gpu doesnt have any voltage control
lock dot 2#7946: Good point
OPForkMan#4519: so im making an infographic for my uni course and im trying to represent the volume in 3d
OPForkMan#4519: ive got no clue how to use sketchapp or anything like that
OPForkMan#4519: was wondering if anyone knows a site i could type the volume in and get a 3d representation for it
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Have you considered learning complex 3D design?
exquisitedark#1117: hey all
exquisitedark#1117: anyone knows why this goes so slow?
exquisitedark#1117: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/893517475260534835/unknown.png |
exquisitedark#1117: it works on it every time i try to upload
Din (Mája)#0264: put everything from that folder to a new folder inside that slow folder
Din (Mája)#0264: So it doesn't load everything everytime
Din (Mája)#0264: It's a common practice for storing my memes, as that folder gets to 1500 pics, it starts 'working on it', so I just create new folder and put the old memes inside of it :Smart:
JopeSane#2283: For very old computers, any theories why the monitor only shows white static imagine when turned on
JopeSane#2283: The pc turns on and the monitor reacts it veing turned on
JopeSane#2283: But tested with two monitors, no picture
JopeSane#2283: Old as in intel 8088 old
JopeSane#2283: Will troubleshoot it soon
Dogecode#7321: bad video board?
JopeSane#2283: Tested with another machine and it works
JopeSane#2283: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/893898713850851409/20211002_193402.mp4
JopeSane#2283: Monitor also works
The United Earth citizen#0382: I have 2 dGPUS plugged into my system right now, how do i point nvflash to which one to flash?
Nathaniel#6168: Any way of emulating Vulkan on an older GPU? |
D.D.M#8226: Probably there is though i doubt its gonna suck
D.D.M#8226: There is program that enables dx 11 on dx10 gpus
D.D.M#8226: But you need extra cpu powe, but then again it runs slow
JustinXenyx#8854: As far as i currently know, absolutely not
JustinXenyx#8854: Vulkan is a lower level API, any sort of emulation of it is pointless and really counterintuitive
JustinXenyx#8854: The performance lost by using a hypothetical emulated Vulkan is most likely much bigger than just using native OpenGL or DirectX
Muse#0557: And even then if a card doesn't support vulkan it's probably ancient and has no power to spare
JustinXenyx#8854: If you're using Linux and *need* Vulkan for stuff like DXVK or similar then you have to get a newer graphics card
JustinXenyx#8854: Well they might not want Vulkan just to improve performance, DXVK and D3DVK are pretty much a requirement for gaming on Linux now
JustinXenyx#8854: DXVK translates DX9, 10 and 11 into Vulkan and D3DVK translates DX12 into Vulkan
Muse#0557: Ah fair enough
Muse#0557: How many new games coming out actually support vulkan now
Muse#0557: I dont hear about it enough
JustinXenyx#8854: A fair amount i'd say
JustinXenyx#8854: Id Software has gone exclusively Vulkan with DOOM Eternal for example, Alyx runs both DX11 and Vulkan (although Alyx also runs natively on Linux so Vulkan support is pretty much guaranteed) and a couple of games here and there start supporting it |
Muse#0557: Valve and ID have been good with Vulkan
Dogecode#7321: this
like as a side example, I think theres a way to emulate dx12 on dx10 cards
but its not remotely usable
Muse#0557: Ik all valves games have gotten vulkan support for the Deck
JustinXenyx#8854: I imagine Vulkan support will increase with Steam Deck when Valve starts pushing developers towards making games Linux native or making them more optimal for Linux support
Dogecode#7321: budget covered it when he talked about the scam card that was a hd 4890
Muse#0557: It's not emulation iirc (I could easily be wrong)
Dogecode#7321: id imagine maybe you could do a similar thing with vulkan given the right software, but again, it's gonna be unusable
Muse#0557: Just dx12 with missing features
Dogecode#7321: so no point
JustinXenyx#8854: I'm pretty sure the older games that have Vulkan support added actually do it via DXVK
Muse#0557: That's neat
JustinXenyx#8854: I don't think it was emulation because i can't see how you'd emulate that without making use of the CPU
JustinXenyx#8854: Could very well be only emulating the parts it needs to emulate |
Muse#0557: I think it's just telling the game that it's running dx12
Muse#0557: Because nothing dx12 specific actually works when you do it
JustinXenyx#8854: Oh then it's probably bypassing the DX restrictions
JopeSane#2283: Oof
JopeSane#2283: I get some lights on mobo when I put the power cable to psu but absolutely nothing happens when I tru to turn it on
JopeSane#2283: It even has its own power button on the mobo but nothing happens
JopeSane#2283: Not even psu turns on
JopeSane#2283: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/894012841223393360/20211003_030725.mp4
JopeSane#2283: Any suggestions?
JopeSane#2283: May have found the issue
JopeSane#2283: The psu is half modular
JopeSane#2283: And did not have any modular cables with it
JopeSane#2283: I had some laying around that did fit
JopeSane#2283: But seems like it has different wiring
JopeSane#2283: For the gpu that is |
JopeSane#2283: There is one pcie wire there
JopeSane#2283: But that is not enough
Dogecode#7321: never use random modular psu cables, even if it fits
Dogecode#7321: it can absolutely destroy everything
Dogecode#7321: its gotta match the psu
JopeSane#2283: yeah D:
JopeSane#2283: gotta go back to the lab to pick another psu I have
JopeSane#2283: the one I have now would be fine but it has only one pcie wire
Zirax#2873: Wonder what perf alyx on opengl would get
Zirax#2873: Sounds funny, would any dx12 game even work half properly like that?
D.D.M#8226: Does anyone have the linux ethernet drivers for the MSI Z490 gaming plus mobo, as for me both ubuntu and linux mint cannot find any drivers automatically, and many drivers i found are kinda broken and keep disconnecting .
lock dot 2#7946: Any idea how to make Windows 10 not require a pin when starting up? Nor a password? When I remove the pin then it wants me to log into my microsoft account with a password. I just want to press the power button and have it turn it's self it.
DarknessFalls229#2286: tried this? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/894283530425757756/unknown.png
inactive#2783: Yep
inactive#2783: nothing like pumping +12V into a pin that was meant for +3.3v or +5v |
JopeSane#2283: I am having some server issues, can't figure out how to fix them
NecroFlex#9105: i've done it multiple times, you just have to know the pinout and change the pins on the cables to the correct pinout for the PSU and you're good to go
NecroFlex#9105: Corsair is easy fx, you have a list on their site which cables fit which PSUs and series
Jonny#4172: Hi, I've just made a pc, and I'm trying to install Windows on the 980 pro in it, but it tells me that the drive is in mbr mode, when it needs to be gpt. I've looked all through the bios, and there's no way to change it. what do I do?
Memecube#2037: are you in uefi mode
Jonny#4172: Yes
Jazzzny#6861: you will need to erase the drive
Jazzzny#6861: delete all of the partitions, then install to the "unallocated space"
Jazzzny#6861: or you could convert the drive to use the gpt format
Jonny#4172: How can I convert it?
Jazzzny#6861: run ``mbr2gpt /convert`` in the winpe cmd
Jazzzny#6861: make sure to back up your data first
Jazzzny#6861: just in case
Jonny#4172: I tried that already and it couldn't find the drive 😔
Jazzzny#6861: run diskpart |
Jazzzny#6861: then type in ``list disk``
D.D.M#8226: Erase the drive completely a make sure you wrote your installer usb with gpt
D.D.M#8226: I am assuming you are using a usb
Jonny#4172: nvm I got it working, did the unallocated space thing
Din (Mája)#0264: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/894984479649697849/unknown.png
Din (Mája)#0264: Ummmmm.. how do I mass-associate videos and stuff in Win11?
Dogecode#7321: you can’t
Dogecode#7321: you have to go through and change each one
Dogecode#7321: one at a time
JopeSane#2283: Welp
JopeSane#2283: Faced a problem
JopeSane#2283: Trying to install rx460 on dell optiplex
JopeSane#2283: But the previous owner swapped a fan
JopeSane#2283: That uses molex
JopeSane#2283: No molex on this pc |
Din (Mája)#0264: what the fuck, Microsoft
Din (Mája)#0264: I'd hope Google was just giving me old info, god help us all
JopeSane#2283: Would sata to molex adaptor work?
DarknessFalls229#2286: yea
Din (Mája)#0264: It's a fan, so sure beans
DarknessFalls229#2286: its basicly dropping the 3.3v rail
Din (Mája)#0264: Yep
Din (Mája)#0264: That's what these weird adapters are for
Din (Mája)#0264: Don't you dare connect a HDD or GPU into it, though xd
DarknessFalls229#2286: molex to sata is somewhat meh since its missing the 3.3v rail
Din (Mája)#0264: But a fan can work even when you solder it to a powerbank or a 1,5 battery, it's tolerant
DarknessFalls229#2286: molex to 6 or 8pin is fine as long as you dont 'overload' the wires
Din (Mája)#0264: Yep
JopeSane#2283: Hmm I wonder if it would be better to just slice it and connect it to the gpu
DarknessFalls229#2286: uh |
DarknessFalls229#2286: not saying you couldnt, but shouldnt
DarknessFalls229#2286: id rather transform it into a 3 or 4pin motherboard fan connector
JopeSane#2283: Or if there is an adaptor
DarknessFalls229#2286: sata to molex exists
DarknessFalls229#2286: but is far less common than molex to sata
DarknessFalls229#2286: i have a whole box full of molex to sata, yet only like 2 of sata to molex
JopeSane#2283: Unfortunately
JopeSane#2283: No fan connectors on mobo
JopeSane#2283: Dell optiplex
JopeSane#2283: And a new one
DarknessFalls229#2286: just get sata to molex then
DarknessFalls229#2286: the simplest solution
JopeSane#2283: Yeah
DarknessFalls229#2286: but dont be surprised if the fan is loud as fuck
JopeSane#2283: Only thing I was wondering would be that with molex/sata it will be on all the time |
DarknessFalls229#2286: it wont
JopeSane#2283: So wondered if it would be better on the gpu
DarknessFalls229#2286: id rather not splice up a GPU cable just for a case fan
DarknessFalls229#2286: besides, the fan will turn off with the PSU
JopeSane#2283: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/894987968392077363/20211005_194237.jpg
DarknessFalls229#2286: only the SB5v rail will remain active
DarknessFalls229#2286: oh
DarknessFalls229#2286: what
JopeSane#2283: Well I meant that while the pc is on
JopeSane#2283: As gpu fans are not on all the time
JopeSane#2283: Or especially 100%
JopeSane#2283: But yeah
DarknessFalls229#2286: you didnt say the GPU doesnt have a fan AT ALL and youre using the case fan as GPU fan
JopeSane#2283: Previous owner did some fuckery
JopeSane#2283: I said he swapped the fan :d |
JopeSane#2283: And by swap I really meant swap
DarknessFalls229#2286: non specificly you said that
DarknessFalls229#2286: thought you meant he replaced a case fan with a molex fan
DarknessFalls229#2286: _be more specific_
JopeSane#2283: "Trying to install rx460 on dell optiplex. But the previous owner swapped a fan. That uses molex"
JopeSane#2283: Is what I said
DarknessFalls229#2286: yes
DarknessFalls229#2286: which is very non specific
DarknessFalls229#2286: for all i could know you meant the north bridge fan
DarknessFalls229#2286: or maybe the VRM fan
DarknessFalls229#2286: or maybe the PSU fan
DarknessFalls229#2286: or maybe the south bridge fan
DarknessFalls229#2286: or maybe the CPU fan
JopeSane#2283: I guess I should have specified twice it was the rx460 fan
JopeSane#2283: Thought it would be obvious from the context of talking about rx460 that I meant fan of rx460 |
JopeSane#2283: But anyway
JopeSane#2283: Trying to figure out my options
DarknessFalls229#2286: probably should use sata to molex
DarknessFalls229#2286: the rx 460 probably uses PWM to control the fan
DarknessFalls229#2286: not voltage
JopeSane#2283: I could splice the sata cable too but maybe I will just buy the adapter
JopeSane#2283: Oh seems like a local store has one. Dont have to order it
Din (Mája)#0264: People, please
Din (Mája)#0264: I need to downgrade to Windows 10
Din (Mája)#0264: I can't make Win11 open JPEG and PNG to IrfanView and there are no options
Din (Mája)#0264: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/895005085162156042/unknown.png
Din (Mája)#0264: ouuuuufffff okokokok
DarknessFalls229#2286: you know, this is why i use backups
Din (Mája)#0264: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/895005278020460606/unknown.png
Din (Mája)#0264: YES PLEASE OH MY GOD |
Din (Mája)#0264: FUCK GO BACK
Din (Mája)#0264: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK GOD DAMN IT
Din (Mája)#0264: FUCK WINDOWS 11
Din (Mája)#0264: Sorry, I'm extremely upset
Din (Mája)#0264: Like, anxiety attack upset
Memecube#2037: this is why you never upgrade os' on launch
Memecube#2037: its good microsoft at least gives the 10 day period to switch back
Din (Mája)#0264: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/895005935976722452/unknown.png
Din (Mája)#0264: yeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssss
Din (Mája)#0264: Yep. Good on them. The only feature I like on this thing
Din (Mája)#0264: wait
Din (Mája)#0264: "Better searching, security and launching"
Din (Mája)#0264: you mean "locking u up", microsoft? what the hell man
Din (Mája)#0264: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/895007158905757696/20211005_195850.jpg
Din (Mája)#0264: that PC was screaming "put me back I'm not done" lol |
Din (Mája)#0264: I'm out, holy damn
Din (Mája)#0264: so grateful for things I took for granted
Dogecode#7321: i switched to linux
Dogecode#7321: lol
Din (Mája)#0264: soon, man, I'll switch too
Din (Mája)#0264: Win10 ain't that bad, I'll enjoy it while I can
Din (Mája)#0264: When the time comes, BAM, ZorinOS time
Din (Mája)#0264: Or Linux Mint, or Ubuntu Creative
Din (Mája)#0264: Whatever, the world's endless
Dogecode#7321: I wouldn’t use zorin
Memecube#2037: I tried Linux but app support isn't the best yet
Memecube#2037: though that might change when the steam deck drops
Din (Mája)#0264: why not? ExplainingComputers made it seem like a neat Windows transition OS
Din (Mája)#0264: Grandma friendly
Din (Mája)#0264: That's my stand, too |
Dogecode#7321: most of the apps I use either have a linux port, or have some open source alternative
Dogecode#7321: games are even pretty good on it but there’s a few that I want to play but cant
Din (Mája)#0264: I'm waiting for Affinity suite to be available in Linux
Din (Mája)#0264: Or even Adobe lol
Dogecode#7321: Although that should change for the most part once more anti cheat software supports linux in the near future
Memecube#2037: thing I most miss on Linux are EGS (I know Lutris exists but I feel like its gonna tank my pc), Paint.NET (Gimp is too overcomplicated and Pinta is ass) and Office since Libreoffice messes up my documents
Din (Mája)#0264: Yeyeyeye, LibreOffice is my barricade between me and Linux
Dogecode#7321: libreoffice works great for me
Better than word for web :Hahahahaha:
Din (Mája)#0264: I have to edit too many documents for the people to tell me "WHY IS IT MESSED UPP????!?!!!!)
Din (Mája)#0264: yeah xD
Memecube#2037: anything is better than word for web except nothing
Dogecode#7321: But you could also use google drive
Memecube#2037: I prefer having native apps over web apps anyday
Din (Mája)#0264: Yep, it has better compatibility |
Din (Mája)#0264: But I agree with this
Din (Mája)#0264: My DVD copy of Office 2007 Standard ftw
Dogecode#7321: I use google drive all the time, used to use a native app (word 2002 lol) but I got tired of shunting files around from pc to pc and turning in my work on a thumb drive
Din (Mája)#0264: I'd also use Office 2010 if it didn't have that stupid red bar popping up
Dogecode#7321: With google drive you can just do anything anywhere
Dogecode#7321: I guess the new office 365 has onedrive integration doesn’t it so you can technically do that there too
Memecube#2037: yeah feature wise its good but its heavy on resources cuz web app and the ui takes a while to get used to
Din (Mája)#0264: Yep, I use it for my stuff too. Very nice with To-do lists and stuff
Dogecode#7321: But youve gotta have it installed, on any system where you want to use it, and it costs money and so on
Din (Mája)#0264: Yeah..
Din (Mája)#0264: Honestly I like Google Docs better than Office, even with the advantages
Din (Mája)#0264: The Windows shenanigans are too much for me to chew through and LibreOffice is just... rough
Memecube#2037: fair
Dogecode#7321: i say ive had few problems with libreoffice but tbh I usually just export the document as a pdf to submit
Dogecode#7321: don’t usually need to turn in the .odt file or whatever |
Din (Mája)#0264: that's the problem - my dad screams at me whenever I send him a PDF of any sort :haha:
Din (Mája)#0264: He even wants vector graphics in Word xd
Dogecode#7321: I had one issue last year where a .docx wouldnt render a drawing or something right
Memecube#2037: usually the problem is not just exporting but viewing documents too :sadcena:
Dogecode#7321: It didn’t show up right in either libreoffice or google docs, only word for web was able to do it
Din (Mája)#0264: lmao
Din (Mája)#0264: I hate Office 365 just for that reason
Din (Mája)#0264: Not the people using it, as they're mostly pressured into it
Memecube#2037: Microsoft about to boast Word for Web can see things the human eye can't
Din (Mája)#0264: But the compatibility is sure shit
Din (Mája)#0264: At least when using LibreOffice or Office2010 xC
Din (Mája)#0264: Well anyway, I don't wanna get angry again
Dogecode#7321: i used to use word 2002
Din (Mája)#0264: I'm glad I regrouped with my 10s again
Dogecode#7321: like as recently as probably 4 years ago |
Din (Mája)#0264: My dad's colleague wanted to have Office 2003.. in 2021
Din (Mája)#0264: Then she came back to me that the PowerPoint presentations don't open :Xdxdxd:
Dogecode#7321: It got along fine actually, wouldve kept using it but i decided to switch to gdocs just to make things easier
Dogecode#7321: the suite i have didn’t even have powerpoint
Dogecode#7321: it’s like ms works 05 or something
Dogecode#7321: I also have office 2000
Dogecode#7321: lol
Din (Mája)#0264: bhhbhhhfg, I last saw that in my dad's Eee netbook
Din (Mája)#0264: Classic, that's what I install on every retro PC running Win98 x3
Din (Mája)#0264: Can't have a PC without an office suite, ey?
Dogecode#7321: funnily it’s the small business version that also doesn’t have powerpoint
Din (Mája)#0264: lol
Bae#4506: why the fuck is red dead 2 not letting me use 1229mb vram
D.D.M#8226: Cus its red dead 2
Un karr#9168: guys I has a question, is it possible to upgrade to full windows 11(the actual release) from the windows 11 insider previews? |
Deleted User#0000: i wonder aswell
Un karr#9168: I have a feeling that I need to go back to windows 10 and then upgrade to windows 11
Deleted User#0000: i fucking hope not, imma install direct from an Iso
inactive#2783: same
Tinybox#9112: @Tech Helper (sorry fo da ping but quick question real q)
***mobile shit***
Would yall get a
HP Pavilion 17-ab004ng
It's a standard 2.85kg laptop from hp with an i5 6300hq and a 960m for 300 euros
***or***
Do I get a clevo p150sm
With an i7 4700hq, but no gpu for 200(it has an mxm slot) it's a got a "prema mod BIOS" on it... If I get that I'll buy an m4000m(100 euros) from aliexpress, the laptop weighs in at 3kg
Muse#0557: Idk if I'd buy either
Tinybox#9112: M4000m=970m
Muse#0557: Probably the clevo if you put a gun to my head tho |
Tinybox#9112: Alr
Tinybox#9112: I know both laptops have a tpm chip
Tinybox#9112: So not worried about win11
TheFifthAce#4128: win 11 is lame anyways
Grockle#7163: nou
TheFifthAce#4128: the clevo is prolly better
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I don't know man
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I would avoid both
TheFifthAce#4128: same
TheFifthAce#4128: get a nitro 5
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Not just lame, it's ass
TheFifthAce#4128: agreed
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Let me do some research on the Clevo
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Removable parts > Soldered
Tinybox#9112: Alright |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Also remember that the battery life is going to suck so hard @Tinybox
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Maybe less so for the HP
Tinybox#9112: If I can get like 3-4h of it I'll be pretty happy.
Muse#0557: You're not going to get 4h out of a 7 year old clevo
Tinybox#9112: Brand new battery ofc
Tinybox#9112: no way in hell I'd expect 3-4h from the ancient battery that came with it
Tinybox#9112: *coming
Muse#0557: Burnt money
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I doubt it with ancient inefficient hardware + Windows 10 being the battery burner it is
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Also the upgrade might render the Clevo dGPU-only which means you might as well throw out the battery
Tinybox#9112: that's true..,
Muse#0557: Try find a nitro 5 or something with a 1050 or 1050 ti
Muse#0557: It'll do much better
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Oops, the P170SM is Optimus by default
Muse#0557: Maxwell mobile sucks cock |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I hope none of them are breaking to pieces right now like my Predator from the same era
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Well it's not that bad, just 2 screw holes on the bottom panel broke off
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @Tinybox Are they the only 2 options available?
Tinybox#9112: Alr, looking at the market there's a chance I can get a HP Pavilion.. Intel Core I5-9300H 16 GB DDR42 1TB HDD GTX 1050 3GB GDDR5.
Seller seems to have not put in the modellname... Fo 320
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I forgot to mention the clevo comes with a 500gb ssd+2tb hdd and the hp (prev one a 3tb hdd)
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/895548493698072576/Screenshot_20211007-074948_willhaben.png
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Actually
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Both CPUs are not officially supported
Sony PS-FL77#3627: So uh
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I'd worry lol
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Who cares about Windows 11
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Apparently they do
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I don't |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: So I wouldn't mind too much
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Besides a Russian or Chinese hacker/tweaker would figure it out sooner or later
Tinybox#9112: They already have
Tinybox#9112: But uh
Tinybox#9112: Yea
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: This is more desirable than the other two TBH, no SSD?
Tinybox#9112: No ssd
Tinybox#9112: Those 3 are the only options
Tinybox#9112: And jeez nvm on that new battery, seller said he replaced it 3y ago, and a battery for the p150sm has a price tag of 50 euros
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: :sadlinus:
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: If I were you I would get the HP 1050 TBH
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Relatively modern with a good CPU and usable GPU(beats most iGPUs, it's a handicapped 1050 Ti) and nice spec overall
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Not to mention you could get actual batteries for it now instead of cheap Chinese crap, or CCC
JustinXenyx#8854: I'd personally go towards the Clevo but it would be closer to a mobile desktop instead of a more portable laptop
JustinXenyx#8854: Although i'm not too sure how viable it is to buy parts from AliExpress right now in germany, given that all shipments from china are being taxed now apparently |
D.D.M#8226: You could get a cheap ryzen laptop
D.D.M#8226: They are pretty capable and portable
Tinybox#9112: So...to update @JustinXenyx
I took my time and messaged each seller, basically...,none of the options I named above are even avaliable..as the two laptops were "reserved".
I should probably also state what I do...,
So..., I'd use the Laptop for 3d modelling+programming,...most of the time I'd be right next to a plug, but in my days they are usually ~2:30h where I'm not, but need to use a laptop.
Tinybox#9112: Do I wait for a diff laptop to pop up that meets those needs, since I'm in need but it's like.. I need one within 5-7d or so (the 1050+ part)
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Damn I think we already had this convo earlier this year or something
Tinybox#9112: I dunno
Tinybox#9112: probably something similar
Tinybox#9112: Since I got a laptop for my sibling like...a year ago
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: You asked me about the HP 8770W and MXM GPU upgrade, perhaps
Tinybox#9112: OH YEAH
Tinybox#9112: that
Tinybox#9112: The mxm part has been on my mind for like quite a while |
Tinybox#9112: Always wanted to experiment with mxm and stuff..., but not if it it's not worth it
Tinybox#9112: and if it would have been plain better if I just didn't experiment
Tinybox#9112: well yeah @TheFifthAce you think I should wait around for another laptop that fits my needs to pop up, the gtx 1050 and up part?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: You really need it that badly?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: There's another option tho
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: You could shell out about $600-700 for a 1650 laptop
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Won't be the most economically efficient but if you are low on time well it might be the only choice
Tinybox#9112: yea need it pretty badly..., 99% of my notes are still digital from all the "online learning" garbage, so....., it's getting to be a real pain in the ass
Tinybox#9112: Worst part is I only really have ~320 euros to spend on it as well
TheFifthAce#4128: get a nitro 5
Tinybox#9112: I'd love to but they are none avaliable with a gtx 960m+
<320 at least
Tinybox#9112: its kinda ass, but atm, the only things I see rn, are the clevo plus an m4000m upgrade with that awesome chinese shipping.
or a 960m hp pavilion with a 6300hq.
Tinybox#9112: I could wait around for somethin better tho if they're miserable choices |
Tinybox#9112: For like a good 3ish days ig
TheFifthAce#4128: 560x thrashes 960m
Tinybox#9112: Alright, I completely forgot the RX 560x existed, searching specifically for that GPU, I found a defective Lenovo Legion Y520, @i5 7300hq+rx 560 (no nitros sadly) ~200 (haven't negotiated yet but I'm sure I can knock a 50 off that)
What's defective is the screen, and they are a few missing keycaps...
Quick google search reveals that I can buy a Lenovo legion y520 keyboard whole thing ~20 or just the keycaps for 10.
And a brand new screen shipped from germany for 90 Euros....,
Tinybox#9112: Gonna contact the seller and see if he has any more shit for me to know
TheFifthAce#4128: why rush into it
TheFifthAce#4128: just wait for a nitro
Tinybox#9112: Well,..you see.. I need it for classes, since from the online learning stuff most of my notes are digital now.., can't really pull up my notes easily..., also..for the 3d modelling stuff we do there, also programming(although I can do that on any shit laptop rn) (The pcs they have there SUCK)
Dogecode#7321: /convert 320 eur usd
Currency Converter Bot#4703: 320.0 EUR = USD 374.37
Dogecode#7321: that sounds ok ish if you can knock the price down a bit
if you get it Id just go ahead and get the whole keyboard for 20, you don’t know if theres other problems with it or if theres parts of the keyboard missing so you cant reattach the keycaps
Dogecode#7321: rx 560 would probably do ok for the 3d stuff too |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Or you could find a cheapo external display and plug the laptop in
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Same for the keyboard
Tinybox#9112: on an update right..., I messaged the seller and he said that the laptop recently fell down and since then it wont boot at all..
I'm just gonna go for the clevo, the clevo seller also said he has a spare battery that he bought in 2017
mi3night#2562: Is this the best option for the price? Or are there any alternatives with better pricing https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/896296077211361300/image0.png
mi3night#2562: I’m planning to charge my laptop and phone with it
Grockle#7163: i mean, i wouldn't personally buy battery banks on ebay, even from a reputable brand
Grockle#7163: but J-R seems to be on good terms with the brand so it'd probably be fine
Foxious#1859: The biggest problem is that sometimes you cant ship batteries
Foxious#1859: or they will be confiscated at customs
Foxious#1859: at least in retro computing stuff i have seen it as a problem
Sony PS-FL77#3627: It'll be fine if you buy within your country
Tinybox#9112: Ayyy an Asus FX something i5 7th gen laptop with a 1050 popped up.
Gonna try cop that instead of the clevo
Tinybox#9112: rip couldn't get that |
Tinybox#9112: Well time to get that mxm card
Tinybox#9112: Got the clevo, pretty bad marks in terms of being used..and a small corner piece is missing..?
Gonna solve that with a skin(also the terrible feeling of it)+eventually ill 3d print the small corner part missing, since the other corner is in tact, so I have something to take measurements of
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: So you need the MXM GPU, and a SSD?
Tinybox#9112: nah dont need an ssd
Tinybox#9112: SSD is fine
Tinybox#9112: Clevo never made a laptop with an M4000M, so I already know I'll need to use the presets from an M5000m or M3000m
Tinybox#9112: gonna need to get thermal pads along with it...., the default debate of whether I cheap out and go for "1.5w/mk or 6w/mk" thermal pads
Tinybox#9112: part of me really wants to cheap our because of the shitty shipping time
Tinybox#9112: Fuck it, gonna cheap out and hope its fine
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Top ten moments caught before disaster
Tinybox#9112: nah the ssd is really fine
Tinybox#9112: sadly its a sandisk plus
Tinybox#9112: but it barely has any hours
Tinybox#9112: on 98% condition |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: So it already has a SSD
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Whew
Tinybox#9112: yea
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Thought you were going spinning disks
Tinybox#9112: the only thing that troubles me, hdd with "19" bad sectors
Tinybox#9112: shits red
Tinybox#9112: I don't hear no clicking though
Tinybox#9112: wonder how long thats gonna last
Tinybox#9112: I did a short battery test
Tinybox#9112: just browsing with the igpu, I can get like 2 hours and 30 minutes
Tinybox#9112: from 100%
Tinybox#9112: or maybe 3ish hours, battery has 20% wear, ig thats still ok
Tinybox#9112: could probably hit the 3h if I turned off the funny rgb backlight
Tinybox#9112: 30% brightness
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I could help you with optimizing the battery life |
Tinybox#9112: ?
Tinybox#9112: the most annoying thing now is that I need to replace one rubber feet
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Just take something decent, the temp of the GPU core is important
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Verify that the GPU is compatible and prepare drivers for it
Tinybox#9112: gpu is probably compatible.
the p150sm 100% works with normal maxwell GPUs, the Prema mod bios on it extends compatability as well.
Tinybox#9112: There have been similar laptops with succesfull upgrades as well
Tinybox#9112: like a p370em
Tinybox#9112: even if not...., m4000m is an ez resell
Tinybox#9112: on a sidenote, I heard "quadro experience" got all the geforce experience features as well now
Tinybox#9112: like shadowplay
Rea77y#6618: NAE-HP-X27Q.pdf https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/897015453564678164/NAE-HP-X27Q.pdf
Rea77y#6618: Is this a good monitor for 250 usd?
JustinXenyx#8854: For $250 that looks like a very good monitor
Rea77y#6618: I have a Samsung 27 inch 2k 144hz va and was looking for something that looked better |
Rea77y#6618: Ever since I had to give my second monitor to my mom
JustinXenyx#8854: is 2K 1080p or 1440p?
JustinXenyx#8854: because technically 2k applies to neither
Rea77y#6618: 1440p
JustinXenyx#8854: 1080p is 80 pixels short of 2k and 1440p is 2.5k
Rea77y#6618: Bruh moment
Rea77y#6618: My Samsung is from before they had the g series
Rea77y#6618: https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-C27HG70-27-Inch-Monitor-C27HG70QQN/dp/B06XSQ5QN8
Rea77y#6618: This without q led
Rea77y#6618: C27JG50QQM the exact model number
Rea77y#6618: Oh what the monitor is 100%srg already
zwect#1210: https://www.adata.com/us/industrial/556
zwect#1210: is this SSD any good?
zwect#1210: found it 128gb for 18$
DarknessFalls229#2286: its probably just fine |
zwect#1210: hmm
Dogecode#7321: doubt it has a dram cache
serjG#2394: it's alright for the price
serjG#2394: faster than any sata drive
Dogecode#7321: ye
serjG#2394: sata only guy here :sadcena:
Memecube#2037: I keep clean installing AMD drivers but once I connect my desktop online, it somehow tries to merge my igpu with the discrete card like "AMD Radeon HD 7560D + R5 240 Dual Graphics"
Memecube#2037: and the AMD control panel wont work after that
Alcyone#2233: try killing the process from task manager and restarting the app, iirc my laptop had that issue
Memecube#2037: Already tried that but for some reason it says the driver is not installed
Memecube#2037: Like I said, this only happens after getting it online and I already tried other drivers and kept WU disabled
Memecube#2037: ok it seems to have stopped switching after I just loaded the INF in Device Manager
D.D.M#8226: Hey can someone help me with something?
I have a friend with a pc that doesn't boot in to windows 7 but it only cycles the monitor on and off, and looking at disk part i saw that the drive where it is installed doesn't have the system reserved partition, i have used sfcscannow,chkdsk and all the bootrec commands to no avail and the bootsect command but also to no avail. I also tried using macrium reflects tools which got me a bit farther into the boot selection but whatever i choose it immediately bsod'es ans i cant go any further.
Any ideas? |
D.D.M#8226: Also re installing isnt an option as the pc has programs with some data that cant be easily taken out
Dogecode#7321: > cant be easily taken out
should be able to just hook the drive to a separate machine and pull things off it
did you try startup repair with a separate windows usb/cd
The Tired Technician#8073: Just found a computer in the dumpster. Pretty pog
The Tired Technician#8073: I am now a very happy girl
The Tired Technician#8073: Who knows, might make a video on it
The Tired Technician#8073: That might be fun
vegetal#8870: pog
D.D.M#8226: Startup repair does nothing
D.D.M#8226: And what i mean by "hard to take out" i mean the machine has some banking software that he uses but i do not know where its kept
D.D.M#8226: Tried following the shortcut but got no where
Deleted User#0000: pics ?
Grockle#7163: Source??
The Tired Technician#8073: If you're still around in like 12 hours when I'm done sleeping. I'll take some pics for ya |
The Tired Technician#8073: But it's an LGA 775 system with a Pentium 4 in it, Intel GMA graphics, and DDR2 ram.
Deleted User#0000: ah okay. no need to then
The United States Air Force#7904: GG
The Tired Technician#8073: So I figured out what it is
The Tired Technician#8073: Its a Emachines T5088
Dogecode#7321: ive got a pentium 4/D 775 board with ddr1 and agp
Dogecode#7321: may have just picked up a good card for it recently if i ever use it in a build, x1650 pro
The Tired Technician#8073: Ive got an entire bin of AGP cards
The Tired Technician#8073: good times
Dogecode#7321: as of rn i dont have any plans to do a build with it though
Dogecode#7321: was gonna do a baller win98 build but the card i got then for it was dead
The United States Air Force#7904: Damn gg
The United States Air Force#7904: I have a bin of agp potatoes
The Tired Technician#8073: I can take the board off your hands if you dont want it anymore
Dogecode#7321: same |
ive got a few of those
The United States Air Force#7904: Nice
Dogecode#7321: eh, it’s a nice board and its in good shape
i still want to hang onto it
The Tired Technician#8073: Alright, no problem
The Tired Technician#8073: I hope it works good for you
The Tired Technician#8073: And what you want to do with it
The United States Air Force#7904: I have a 40 card collection
The United States Air Force#7904: I plan on being jam 2.0
The United States Air Force#7904: :epicgamer:
Jonny#4172: hey fellas, need a little bit of support as my PC is performing way below expectations.
Jonny#4172: basically, I have a top of the line PC (5950x, 3080 ti etx), but it's performing well, but not nearly what it should be.
Jonny#4172: a quick run of UB (yes i know hahaha funny website) shows that it's in the 30th percentile, for no apparent reason https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/898320954080518144/unknown.png
Alcyone#2233: other users could be overclocking or you have shit ram
Alcyone#2233: oh also install the chipset drivers if you havent |
Jonny#4172: I'm the only user of the PC, and I installed the chipset drivers when I first started using the PC, i'll give it another go though
JustinXenyx#8854: As you already acknowledge, UB isn't a particularly good way to test your PC
JustinXenyx#8854: I would just not care that they say your PC is performing below expectations, for all you know they could be comparing it to some absurdly overclocked version of a similar rig
Alcyone#2233: I meant other users that submitted scores on userdumpmark
Jonny#4172: I have some corsair vengance pro sl 3600 mhz (for some reason that put itself on 2667 mhz, set it to not be that but hey ho)
Jonny#4172: an example of it being weird would be
Jonny#4172: like in minecraft
Jonny#4172: I was watching a streamer play on an i9 9900k + 2080 ti and was in the thousands or high hundreds
Alcyone#2233: running 2666 jedec with fabric clock on auto is not ideal
Jonny#4172: but when playing myself I reach a max of like 400 (despite the gpu saying 40% usage and the cpu 5%) unless i look in the sky
Alcyone#2233: id get that xmp working or get another kit
Jonny#4172: yeah I'll enable xmp again as it should be on already, but disabled itself
Jonny#4172: OK so the ram is fine now, but I still can't understand how my system is performing worse at mc than a i9 9900k / 2080 ti system
kotr#5588: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/896582123568381992/898338722045628446/20211014_150121.jpg
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/896582123568381992/898338723182297088/20211014_150139.jpg |
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/896582123568381992/898338724079874098/20211014_150707.jpg
kotr#5588: just got this amazing card
The United States Air Force#7904: o.O
The United States Air Force#7904: I have a bfg 260 still sealed
The United States Air Force#7904: and a 3650 from sapphire still sealed too
rriot#6100: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfkrp25dpQ0
rriot#6100: try this, helped me a ton
kotr#5588: what a beautie
The United States Air Force#7904: Ye
serjG#2394: I have an 8600gt, but it's a ddr2 model
Deleted User#0000: this is the exact same card someone found in a landfill
whoa you got it with the box too
exquisitedark#1117: are lenovo laptops decent?
i got one with 8 gigs of ram, ryzen 5 4600h a 1650 ti for 680 EUR
exquisitedark#1117: i already ordered extra 16 gb |
serjG#2394: I hate how cheap the ideapad 3 gaming feels
serjG#2394: but I guess it's ok
Deleted User#0000: thats a nice price:performance ratio ngl
serjG#2394: have fun
Deleted User#0000: lenovo laptop varies different between quality
Deleted User#0000: lol compare lenovo thinkpad to an ideapad slim running a4
exquisitedark#1117: i wish it had one more type a port
Deleted User#0000: the ideapad 3 4600h 1650ti is good for its price it have an ips panel and a decent webcam too
exquisitedark#1117: otherwise seems very solid
exquisitedark#1117: i think it's that but it was blue
Deleted User#0000: ive always wanted a laptop with a privacy shutter webcam
Deleted User#0000: thanks for reminding me about the existence of ideapad 3
exquisitedark#1117: the design feels a little dated
exquisitedark#1117: not too different compared to my dads old 2010 asus
Deleted User#0000: its still better than the nitro 5 for the same config |
Deleted User#0000: better build quality
Deleted User#0000: and battery
kotr#5588: y'all are talking about Lenovo hardware? meet my beast https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/898596861496152084/20211012_110236.jpg
kotr#5588: 12 gigs of ram (1600mhz)
i dedicated 2gb of it to the IGP
i also installed a 1tb samsung sata ssd i had sitting around
kotr#5588: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/898597462003056731/20211015_084511.jpg
kotr#5588: starting a new collection
Dogecode#7321: t440p?
also you can allocate that much? in my thinkpad's bios i can only choose between 256 and 512MB
obviously i allocated the maximum cause ive got 16gb of ram
kotr#5588: you can if you flash a custom bios
kotr#5588: +with registry exploits it's easy
Dogecode#7321: ah
I dont do any gaming on mine anyways so 512mb should be enough |
kotr#5588: yea neither do i
kotr#5588: thought i might as well do it though
kotr#5588: this shit runs so cool
Dogecode#7321: ye
Dogecode#7321: the 4200m stays way cooler than the laptop i upgraded from (i7 2760qm)
kotr#5588: yea
Dogecode#7321: that would run hot
it was the best cpu that could go in it so I think the thermal solution was pushed to the limit
Dogecode#7321: i think under full load it was getting up to like 90c
Dogecode#7321: you could feel the heat pouring out of the side
kotr#5588: i mean, it's an Intel CPU and a laptop variant so ye
Dogecode#7321: on this you can barely feel anything on the vent
kotr#5588: sheesh
kotr#5588: that's nice
Dogecode#7321: cause its half the nm process and plus its only 2c |
Dogecode#7321: uses less power too
kotr#5588: ye
kotr#5588: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/898599619502686299/20211015_085312.jpg
kotr#5588: sexy mousepad that came with the 6900xt
Dogecode#7321: nice
Dogecode#7321: I havent tried gaming on the thinkpad (never gamed on the other one either tbh)
but it could probably run minecraft, thats abt it
kotr#5588: it can run most source games pretty well
Dogecode#7321: on igp?
Dogecode#7321: hl2 and such would do fine ig
kotr#5588: ye
Dogecode#7321: but theyre old
kotr#5588: eh
Dogecode#7321: basically anything can run them
Dogecode#7321: except like really really old and worthless hardware |
kotr#5588: i bring that shit to school and hop around on nuke (original cs)
Dogecode#7321: ye
Dogecode#7321: csgo would probably struggle though
kotr#5588: yea it does
kotr#5588: my main pc https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/898600318928052234/20211015_085226.jpg
kotr#5588: saved up for ages
Dogecode#7321: nice
Dogecode#7321: my main is a ryzen 5 2600 and 1660 ti
kotr#5588: 32 gigs at 3200mhz
i9-9900k
2080
kotr#5588: nice specs
Dogecode#7321: glad i got it when i did in 2019
Dogecode#7321: before the world ended
kotr#5588: lmao |
Deleted User#0000: most of my household used lenovo
ranging from military grade thinkpad, to metal-body ideapad, to carbon-like ideapad g40-70, and finally the shittiest lenovo of them all; the ideapad 330 14ast
the body is all made from plastic and can be easily scratched, not to mention that the screws went loose on its own and if you are not patient with the shitty amd a4 apu you can actually break the laptop's body
Dogecode#7321: all the lenovos ive had have been pretty good
granted ive only had thinkpads and one non thinkpad that was older
Dogecode#7321: the g550
Dogecode#7321: interestingly that used the same keyboard as a thinkpad
Dogecode#7321: so it was actually pretty nice despite being a normal consumer grade laptop
Dogecode#7321: handed it down to a friend who needed a pc after I upgraded
HappySlappyFace#0441: Would intel single channel Vs dual channel make a huge difference
HappySlappyFace#0441: 10400
DarknessFalls229#2286: im guessing not as much as AMD, but there will be a noticable difference
DarknessFalls229#2286: especially with things like gaming
HappySlappyFace#0441: Work
HappySlappyFace#0441: Corel draw, illustrator, processing big pictures |
HappySlappyFace#0441: Also 3200mhz single channel
2666 dual channel
Alcyone#2233: 2666 dual
Alcyone#2233: running single channel effectively halves the memory bandwidth. its shit on any platform
JustinXenyx#8854: Single channel vs dual channel will make a difference on every platform because of the reduced memory bandwidth
HappySlappyFace#0441: Yeah ik but I was wondering if it will affect alot in our workload at work
HappySlappyFace#0441: .
Gamefreak924#5901: Emergency: what would cause iTunes to crash when browsing an iPhone's data or trying to sync the data? There is only one backup crash log and there is no error when iTunes crashes
Gamefreak924#5901: AppleMobileBackup.exe.00.log:
`2021-10-16 15:14:26.955|AppleMobileBackup.exe|15572:22617352|socketstreamhandler.c:_SocketLogCallback| ERROR: SocketRecv (data): return of 0 bytes
2021-10-16 15:14:26.987|AppleMobileBackup.exe|15572:22617352|streamhandler.c:_ReadFunc| ERROR: Error reading data: Can't read data
2021-10-16 15:14:26.987|AppleMobileBackup.exe|15572:22617352|devicelinkconnection.c:_DLHandlerThreadReadMessage| ERROR: Could not receive message: '(null)'
2021-10-16 15:14:26.988|AppleMobileBackup.exe|15572:22617520|socketstreamhandler.c:_SocketLogCallback| ERROR: SocketSend (data): error 32: Broken pipe
2021-10-16 15:14:26.988|AppleMobileBackup.exe|15572:22617520|streamhandler.c:_WriteFunc| ERROR: Error sending data: Can't send data
2021-10-16 15:14:26.988|AppleMobileBackup.exe|15572:22617520|devicelinkconnection.c:_DLSendBytesAndDisconnectOnError| ERROR: Could not send data: 'Error writing data' |
2021-10-16 15:14:27.007|AppleMobileBackup.exe|15572:22617352|devicelinkconnection.c:_DLMainThreadMessagePortCallback| ERROR: Error creating components from read data: 'NULL data returned from read'`
Gamefreak924#5901: Doesn't crash on an older computer it's installed on, but it crashes on this one (XPS 9700)
lock dot 2#7946: I just got the weirdest bugged out blue screen of death https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/899558986712498186/20211018_002332.jpg
Deleted User#0000: the fuck ? a transparent screen of death ?
lock dot 2#7946: Yes
lock dot 2#7946: Logitch keeps giving me a blue screen of death with the lvrs64.sys error, and normally it is a normal blue screen of death. This time when playing New World it was transparent...
vegetal#8870: could you still play the game
Deleted User#0000: 🤤
Foxious#1859: I'm starting to be at my wits end with my RX 580, i only play gta v right now, and this 580 can't play gta v.
I get constant stutters, only thing that helps is low/med settings, 30fps frame cap and using DirectX fukken 10 mode
Foxious#1859: the most infuriating this is that the problem is only with gta v
Foxious#1859: not with any other game
Foxious#1859: and seemingly only with my 580
Foxious#1859: could it be that my overly loud piece of crap powercolor card has a monday example gpu chip too? |
D.D.M#8226: Did you try an older driver?
D.D.M#8226: Like 2 years old maybe 3?
Foxious#1859: No i havent, also extremely hard and a bit pointless:
1. Unlike some companies (nvidia), AMD seemingly cant be bothered to have an easy to access catalog of drivers, nor can you seemingly download indevidual drivers, atleast for the RX 580
2. If i use old drivers, i might get problems with something like BeamNG
JustinXenyx#8854: You mean something like this? https://www.amd.com/en/support/previous-drivers/graphics/radeon-500-series/radeon-rx-500-series/radeon-rx-580
JustinXenyx#8854: It is kind of hidden on the main website when you look for drivers, but you can find it without too much of a hassle
JustinXenyx#8854: I would recommend trying to completely clean out your graphics drivers with DDU and then fresh install though
JustinXenyx#8854: You're getting way worse performance than i am on a RX570
Foxious#1859: did DDU today actually
Foxious#1859: and boy, i just recorded my gameplay and you aint seen nothing yet
Foxious#1859: I drove around in my Lampadati Casco, which is not the fastest car in the known universe
Foxious#1859: and god it still struggled
Foxious#1859: the only way i can properly drive around LS is to use a beater Tornado |
Foxious#1859: @JustinXenyx you will soon see the garbage performance of Relive and the Card itself
Foxious#1859: the video is now rendering, soon i can upload the horror
JustinXenyx#8854: just to be sure, what hardware are you pairing the 580 with? @Foxious
Foxious#1859: an I5 3570K
Foxious#1859: @JustinXenyx
JustinXenyx#8854: hmmmmmmmmmm
JustinXenyx#8854: interesting
Foxious#1859: And no issues in dirt rally 2.0
Foxious#1859: beamng
Foxious#1859: arma 2 or 3
Foxious#1859: and so on
JustinXenyx#8854: Gotta be real, i wouldn't be surprised if this just was GTA V being weird
Grockle#7163: I second this possibilty
Foxious#1859: has to be something to do with either the garbage drivers or the card too tbh
Foxious#1859: because no issues whatsoever with any of my nvidia cards |
Foxious#1859: even tried with all 3 directX versions gta supports
Foxious#1859: 11, 10.1 and 10
Foxious#1859: currently running on 10 because that works the best
Foxious#1859: approx 18 minutes left gentlemen
Foxious#1859: the game stutters like hell, and so does the awful adrealin software
Foxious#1859: because it froze 3 times while recording
Foxious#1859: just awful
JustinXenyx#8854: Honestly i'm surprised i don't experience this myself
Foxious#1859: honestly, i am too
Foxious#1859: im wondering if mine is a monday example
JustinXenyx#8854: I've dealt with many machines that had AMD driver issues and that's specifically why i chose to run bleeding edge and see if i'll get hit hard or not
Foxious#1859: excuse me what
Foxious#1859: you wait if you get hard?
Foxious#1859: you mean if it will get?
Foxious#1859: not you will? |
JustinXenyx#8854: smh can't even do one typo in this world :haha:
JustinXenyx#8854: basically, i'm specifically trying to run into driver issues
JustinXenyx#8854: haven't had a single fucking one yet
Foxious#1859: "Why i chose to run bleeding edge and see if i'll get hard or not" :Hahahahaha:
Foxious#1859: im sorry
Foxious#1859: im tired
Foxious#1859: im a bloody goldmine when using my 580
Foxious#1859: i must add that i got mine at a discount
Foxious#1859: but the discount was only for the batch of cards mine was in
Foxious#1859: hmm
JustinXenyx#8854: Honestly, if i was in your situation i'd pull up a completely fresh install of barebones Windows + Game you're having issues with and see if that helps or not
Foxious#1859: cant
JustinXenyx#8854: Windows fuckery doesn't particularly help the troubleshooting with this
Foxious#1859: im utterly incompitent if i cant have a dvd
Foxious#1859: but also |
Foxious#1859: i should have issues with other games too
Foxious#1859: but dirt rally 2.0 runs brilliantly
JustinXenyx#8854: tbf, it's GTA V
Foxious#1859: yes
JustinXenyx#8854: GTA V always does some mysterious shit
Foxious#1859: made by the second most incompetent dev i know
Foxious#1859: the 1 is gaijin entertainment, if you are wondering
Foxious#1859: @JustinXenyx
Foxious#1859: https://youtu.be/gK1OIKyl8AM
JustinXenyx#8854: Oh that's definitely GTA V being weird
JustinXenyx#8854: If you look at the FPS and GPU usage at the same time then it becomes pretty apparent that once performance drops so does GPU usage
Foxious#1859: yeah
Foxious#1859: really infuriating
JustinXenyx#8854: Seeing as you've turned down the settings pretty low i want you to try the opposite now
JustinXenyx#8854: Try to crank it as hard as you can while still getting like 30fps or so, see if the weird GPU usage stuff still happens |
JustinXenyx#8854: to clarify though: Is the game installed on a HDD or SSD and is Windows installed on a HDD or SSD?
Foxious#1859: been steadily lowering settings from high to this low over the year btw
Foxious#1859: its on a HDD, but its not a slow hdd
Foxious#1859: loading times are fine
Foxious#1859: and i must clarify, gta v on my 1070 system is on a slower hdd
Foxious#1859: and in both cases windows is on the same drive
JustinXenyx#8854: *you mean like on the same HDD as the game?*
JustinXenyx#8854: https://youtu.be/gK1OIKyl8AM?t=316 timestamped, this type of behavior is textbook for something in the system not being able to keep up
Grockle#7163: looks like typical quad core behavior to me tbh
JustinXenyx#8854: That kind of pop-in and pop-out is a common issue when trying to run GTA V on dual core chips or when there isn't enough RAM for example, but i've seen it with slower HDDs as well
Foxious#1859: we can rule out the hdd
Foxious#1859: but the ram
Foxious#1859: the bloody ram
Foxious#1859: 8 gigs of kingston half height valueram
Foxious#1859: have been trying to get hold of a 16 gig ddr3 kit but cant find any in finland |
Foxious#1859: also trying to get hold a 3770K, but those too seem to be impossible to find for a good price here
JustinXenyx#8854: Might want to aim for a locked i7 or Xeon instead
JustinXenyx#8854: the OC chips hold their value too well
Foxious#1859: yeah but i want a oc chip for this mobo
Foxious#1859: this thing is really good
Foxious#1859: Asus P877Z
Foxious#1859: or PB77Z
Foxious#1859: sources conflict
Foxious#1859: V-pro
JustinXenyx#8854: Try getting a hold of a 2600K instead then, those should be cheaper and tend to have more OC potential
Foxious#1859: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/899881825047023646/5447_205629_1_woCD.png
Foxious#1859: another problem is that i want to get the max upgrade at once
Foxious#1859: because the cpu cooler is an absolute pain to get off
Foxious#1859: and i have a real chance of breaking something
Foxious#1859: so if i could max out the cpu and get a 16 gig kit at once, it would be the most safe |
JustinXenyx#8854: quickly coming back to GTA: What's the RAM transfer speeds and how's usage while playing the game? I've managed to run it on 6GB DDR2 machines but that was with only Windows and basic benchmarking tools in the background and nothing more
JustinXenyx#8854: ReLive freezing can also be an indicator for RAM usage being very high to the point where Windows tries to get unnecessary stuff out
Foxious#1859: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/899882407224803348/103329_68375_1_F4uS.png
Foxious#1859: grand kama cross is pain
Foxious#1859: lemme try to find
JustinXenyx#8854: oh yeah that cooler is a real pain in the ass to deal with
Foxious#1859: absolutely fantastic
Foxious#1859: but really pain to deal with
Foxious#1859: using 4,7 gigs with spotify, opera gx, steam and discord on
Foxious#1859: hmm
Foxious#1859: thats alot
Foxious#1859: but i didint have opera or spotify open then
Foxious#1859: lemme see what the numbers are when i close them
Foxious#1859: still at 3,2 gigs
Foxious#1859: 8 gigs is too little for todays usage |
Foxious#1859: hmm
Foxious#1859: found a 4x4 of 1600mhz ddr3 for 30 euros
JustinXenyx#8854: that ain't too awful price wise
Foxious#1859: shame that its such ugly stuff https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/899883398074626048/1592467026.png
Foxious#1859: is SK Hynix known at all?
JustinXenyx#8854: not in the way most people think about brands
JustinXenyx#8854: SK Hynix can be found in lots of products but they're not that well known as a brand themselves
Foxious#1859: pogg fucking gers
Foxious#1859: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/899883943300583444/1460547472.png
Foxious#1859: 30 euro kit
Foxious#1859: fucking hell
Foxious#1859: perfect
JustinXenyx#8854: Now that's looking a lot better than those SK Hynix sticks
JustinXenyx#8854: Would allow you to go for a slightly whacky 24GB system too for maximum RAM
Foxious#1859: sadly he is a foreigner |
Foxious#1859: so need to speak english to him
Foxious#1859: and possibly hard to convince me mother to get them for me (she has all the proper internet banking stuff that i havent bothered to get)
Foxious#1859: found some corsair vengeance for 60
Foxious#1859: quad kit
Foxious#1859: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/899884817682923540/1343850412.png
D.D.M#8226: I am also having nearly the same problem on my laptop
D.D.M#8226: Same specs as in my name
D.D.M#8226: The game runs at like 50 60 fps on high settings
D.D.M#8226: I reached out to rockstar and theyv been juggling me around for a month and a half going back and forth
D.D.M#8226: So i just cant be bothered now as i am busy with school and left it as is
D.D.M#8226: Maybe try reach out to rockstar you might have luck
D.D.M#8226: But i think its their shite support on the newest cards
D.D.M#8226: But the rx 570 isnt even that new
Alcyone#2233: hynix is one of very few companies that actually make the dram ICs, everyone knows hynix, everyone knows marshmallow
Foxious#1859: hm |
Alcyone#2233: this is hynix afr with about an hours worth of tuning https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/900117862792953926/unknown.png
LaeMat#0420: Would it be a good idea to update to Android 12? I'm on a Pixel 4A with Android 11
I'm not sure if Android 12 could brick my phone, because I recall people's Pixel 4s (including Budget's) that got bricked with Android 11. Should I wait about a week?
vegetal#8870: I run android 12 on 4a
vegetal#8870: works fine
LaeMat#0420: I'll wait a few days
LaeMat#0420: Because you never know tbh
LaeMat#0420: Also are any apps broken?
vegetal#8870: nope
vegetal#8870: I'm only on beta 5 Though not the full version
exquisitedark#1117: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/900386177457221692/Snapchat-590826950.jpg
exquisitedark#1117: now what
exquisitedark#1117: ok all good
exquisitedark#1117: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/900411994941849610/unknown.png
DarknessFalls229#2286: Bruh no dual channel |
exquisitedark#1117: why not
DarknessFalls229#2286: Non-similar capacity Ram sticks does not dual channel make
D4V1D#9593: Is anyone good with vegas 18 here?
lock dot 2#7946: Is this the slowest Cinebench R23 score you ever seen?
lock dot 2#7946: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/900510610075291678/unknown.png
lock dot 2#7946: It took around 14 hours to complete
D4V1D#9593: Yup
lock dot 2#7946: Nice 🤣
SniperulTF2ist#5685: what if, you were to underclock it
JimmyJoogleNugget#4633: should i get 6gb (4+2) or just straight to 8gb?
DarknessFalls229#2286: what do you currently have?
JimmyJoogleNugget#4633: currently have 4 gb (2x2)
DarknessFalls229#2286: and do you have 2 or 4 slots?
JimmyJoogleNugget#4633: only 2 slots
JimmyJoogleNugget#4633: i only want to play gta v and possibly iv smoothly without micro stutter |
DarknessFalls229#2286: hmmm, i recommend at least 4+4. but 8+8 would be ideal
JimmyJoogleNugget#4633: ah thank you
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Good luck playing IV
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I just use my PS3 for it
Deleted User#0000: it's a miracle that the devs managed to make the game run on the ps3.
Deleted User#0000: with how it runs on pc.
Alcyone#2233: It will but only to 2x the capacity of the smallest dimm in the system.
With that setup you get 8gb in dual channel and the other 12 in single. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/900770538757193808/unknown.png
sygys#7655: Hello, my system did an oopsie and somehow randomly my HDD is now the system partition, but the os and the boot stuff is still on the nvme ssd? can I fix this without having to format either of those drives? especially the hdd cuz that one has a lot of data. heres the diskpart screenshot for context on what I mean. I noticed this while trying to convert my drive from mbr to gpt so that I could get windows 11. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/900827896497704960/unknown.png
Foxious#1859: god damnit
Foxious#1859: tried to close rivatuner and it crashed my gta
Foxious#1859: and just found out that in order to remove it you need to turn it off
Foxious#1859: and apparently closing it is not turning it off, but instead you need to turn off MSI afterburner
Foxious#1859: god damnit
Foxious#1859: also |
Foxious#1859: i have a 4x4gb samsung 1600mhz ram kit incoming
Foxious#1859: should be nice for gta
D.D.M#8226: should i? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/901792221517459476/unknown.png
JustinXenyx#8854: not yet imo
D.D.M#8226: same specs as in the name
D.D.M#8226: hmm
JustinXenyx#8854: I think early 2022 is about when you should really start considering running Windows 11 if you want to, but there probably still won't be a benefit to it
JustinXenyx#8854: Windows 10 and 11 are largely similar, they both run the same programs
D.D.M#8226: been thinking do it as like a switch up, though my main worry is how do games run and such?
Foxious#1859: my windows 10 install has so many issues that i might consider win 11 just for that
Foxious#1859: hell, i cant even pause programs in my dask manager for no reason at all
Foxious#1859: or maybe the HP install of win 10 was just really barebones
JustinXenyx#8854: If you do an in-place upgrade then issues of your 10 install could very likely carry over into the 11 install, so best to just do a clean install tbh
D.D.M#8226: ive seen games run practically the same, though what about compatibility?
serjG#2394: you don't need 11 rn |
D.D.M#8226: Ima think it through
D.D.M#8226: Cus for the most part i have nothing to lose
D.D.M#8226: Except maybe game support
D.D.M#8226: But for the most part ive seen it runs the games i would play
D.D.M#8226: And apps
D.D.M#8226: But just asking cus the update just keeps glaring at me and i am the type of guy that just likes to keep my stuff up to date
Dogecode#7321: Don’t do it
Din (Mája)#0264: Oh god no
Din (Mája)#0264: Please, just wait until Windows 10 support ends
Din (Mája)#0264: At that point, most bugs and productivity ruiners **might ** be ironed out. If not, switch to Linux. But Windows 11 is just a mess at this point
D.D.M#8226: Alright then ima switch when it comes to mind
D.D.M#8226: Ive been thinking to switching to linux but sadly for my use case there are not enough good things to make me switch
D.D.M#8226: Also from what i am looking online dual gpu support in laptops is a bit eh
D.D.M#8226: For gaming that is
Din (Mája)#0264: Oh. That makes Win11 even worse in my book |
D.D.M#8226: No thats for limux
D.D.M#8226: Linux
D.D.M#8226: Oops forgot say
Din (Mája)#0264: oh .>. makes sense though
Din (Mája)#0264: Psiverwi got issues with an Win7 era Vaio that has dual-gpu and was able to only use the crappier one of two in Windows 10 and Linux
Din (Mája)#0264: Driver shenanigans
D.D.M#8226: Ye but that vaios gpu isnt supported anymore i think
D.D.M#8226: So that might be the other culprit there
D.D.M#8226: And because of how shit updating the drivers on windows are i am considering switching to linux
D.D.M#8226: Because every time i update my nvidia drivers, i lose vulkan suport
Din (Mája)#0264: wtf lmao
D.D.M#8226: And i have to use ddu to unnistall the amd igpu drivers
D.D.M#8226: If i dont find the same issue in linux then thats a big positive i will take in consideration
Din (Mája)#0264: Huh. Laptops sure are a smelly beast, especially if they're more than 2 years old
D.D.M#8226: Nah my ones |
D.D.M#8226: Like idk 1 year old since release
D.D.M#8226: The asus tuf a17
Din (Mája)#0264: loooool, my 1 year old Lenovo IdeaPad is starting to have shit battery life (from original 5 hours to now 30 mins) :'D
Compared to the Ryzen 5 Acer Aspire 3 I have since 2018, it's laughable
Din (Mája)#0264: Why are today's laptops so crap
D.D.M#8226: Oof my ones decent for a gaming laptop
Din (Mája)#0264: (btw my Acer Aspire 3 has 2 hours of life compared to 3, it's still good)
D.D.M#8226: Nearly 2 and a half hours of battery life
D.D.M#8226: Doing documents or watching yt
SniperulTF2ist#5685: i have an iphone with a battery life of 30 minutes
D.D.M#8226: Oof
Din (Mája)#0264: xDDDD wtf
SniperulTF2ist#5685: true
D.D.M#8226: Iphoen 4 maybe?
SniperulTF2ist#5685: 4s |
D.D.M#8226: Iphone oof
D.D.M#8226: Ah
Din (Mája)#0264: yeee, that makes sense
Din (Mája)#0264: My iPod Nano from 2010 has a battery life of 40 minutes, so that makes sense
SniperulTF2ist#5685: other 4s didn't had a battery
SniperulTF2ist#5685: and that phone was 4 yo
Din (Mája)#0264: huh, ok
SniperulTF2ist#5685: now i think the battery is 100% wasted
SniperulTF2ist#5685: it's just that batteries are like gambling
SniperulTF2ist#5685: you might pick the best one or the most useless one
SniperulTF2ist#5685: if there was only one standard form factor
SniperulTF2ist#5685: and that being the best
Deleted User#0000: A **na no** ?
Din (Mája)#0264: FRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK
Dogecode#7321: ive got an ipod nano |
also an ipod touch 4th gen
Deleted User#0000: i kinda want a touch
Dogecode#7321: theyre pretty cheap now
Dogecode#7321: the batteries are usually gonna be dead tho, and ik theyre tricky to replace
Dogecode#7321: i want to replace the one on mine cause it doesnt really hold much of a charge anymore
but its difficult and involves soldering stuff lol
Dogecode#7321: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPod+Touch+4th+Generation+Battery+Replacement/9829
Dogecode#7321: mines in pretty rough shape anyway so its probably not worth it
i was hard on it as a kid
Dogecode#7321: it got dropped and the screen broke once too
got it replaced then but that means its not the original now ofc :crome:
rriot#6100: taking apart the ipod touch is a nightmare
rriot#6100: i wish you goodluck
JustinXenyx#8854: Optimus can be quite fiddly in Linux, so if you would want to run Linux on your specific laptop it would be easiest to just outright disable either the dGPU or the iGPU depending on what you need
3f345#6428: hey |
3f345#6428: im planning to buy a laptop for school
3f345#6428: should i buy a chromebook or an old,refurbished one
Din (Mája)#0264: do you use Google Docs?
Din (Mája)#0264: if all ya gonna do is Internet browsing and office work, sure
3f345#6428: im getting a shitty atom laptop
Din (Mája)#0264: If you gotta do graphics, games and stuff----
3f345#6428: schoolwork
Din (Mája)#0264: Why not a Lenovo ThinkPad?
Din (Mája)#0264: sorry .w.
Din (Mája)#0264: I don't like Atom laptops
Din (Mája)#0264: They don't age particularly well
3f345#6428: lmao
3f345#6428: wifi is ass
3f345#6428: I should probably get a Chromebook
3f345#6428: s |
Din (Mája)#0264: You mean a new Chromebook?
Din (Mája)#0264: Or like a 2018 Chromebook?
3f345#6428: idk
3f345#6428: an old one maybe
Din (Mája)#0264: yeah, get an old ThinkPad instead
Din (Mája)#0264: make sure it's from 2011-2020 period and has an SSD
Din (Mája)#0264: Find a reputable refurbisher (well, they're legit in my country at least) and get it off them
Din (Mája)#0264: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/902109715352387594/unknown.png
3f345#6428: u from Romania?
Din (Mája)#0264: Czech Republic
3f345#6428: oh
Din (Mája)#0264: But our dog is a Bucovina Shepherd :D
Din (Mája)#0264: she's the best dog I've ever met, I thank Romania for that
3f345#6428: so 1.5k ringgit
3f345#6428: little high up my budget |
3f345#6428: my budget is 400-500 ringgit
Din (Mája)#0264: It's 308€
3f345#6428: is that pounds or euro
Din (Mája)#0264: Euro
3f345#6428: /convert 308 EUR MYR
Currency Converter Bot#4703: 308.0 EUR = MYR 1432.85
3f345#6428: 1.4k ringgit
Din (Mája)#0264: Ooooooh, Romanian currency
Din (Mája)#0264: It sounded like a british slang
Din (Mája)#0264: Malaysia! Ah
Din (Mája)#0264: Well, um.. I'm not too educated in Malaysian IT market, so..
Din (Mája)#0264: Yeah, get an old Chromebook, whatever you can find
3f345#6428: trust me
3f345#6428: it's dogshit
3f345#6428: when buying a phone |
3f345#6428: the seller always just look at the ram and storage
3f345#6428: there's rarely good people in the market
Din (Mája)#0264: these kinds of market are a reason OLPC XO-1 with a handcrank existed, good lord
Din (Mája)#0264: I wish you good luck
3f345#6428: im Finding a small
3f345#6428: really small laptop
3f345#6428: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/902113013547536394/Screenshot_2021-10-25-11-56-27-85.jpg
3f345#6428: I'll settle with this
Din (Mája)#0264: Eyyy, under your budget! That's nice
Din (Mája)#0264: The RAM is pretty crap though, but eh
Din (Mája)#0264: Is 1GB of RAM reasonable in 2021? Especially if you can't upgrade it?
Din (Mája)#0264: Some people deem even 4GB of RAM questionable
Din (Mája)#0264: Yeah... expect it to be slow, very slow
3f345#6428: yea ik
D.D.M#8226: Nah those things are slow |
D.D.M#8226: Wouldn't recommend it
D.D.M#8226: As you said a chromebook would do
D.D.M#8226: And they tend to be pretty cheap too
D.D.M#8226: And chrome os is pretty good
D.D.M#8226: In my view
3f345#6428: if a chromebook is cheaper than that then sure i'll get a chromebook
3f345#6428: ok good enough https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/902122390585225226/unknown.png
3f345#6428: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/902122587155464212/unknown.png
3f345#6428: imma get this
3f345#6428: this is cheaper https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/902122750095798312/unknown.png
Din (Mája)#0264: Choose this one
Din (Mája)#0264: 4GB of RAM is good
Din (Mája)#0264: 2GB would struggle like hell
3f345#6428: I'll upgrade
Din (Mája)#0264: Ok |
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