data stringlengths 14 24.3k |
|---|
Katiusz#6059: Ahh
Katiusz#6059: No this shit
Katiusz#6059: All Debian base famil is shit
Katiusz#6059: For gaming
Dogecode#7321: ye
Dogecode#7321: I haven’t tried an arch distro to know how it compares, but I want to soon
Dogecode#7321: Might get rid of pop os on the laptop and install plain arch on it
Katiusz#6059: If you are See in my write some bug please Say my English is not to good to write
Dogecode#7321: Once I have time to figure out how to install it :Hahahahaha:
Katiusz#6059: Arch is very hard to install on first time
Dogecode#7321: ye
Katiusz#6059: I dont have money to upgrade my gtx 560 ti
Katiusz#6059: 1GB
Dogecode#7321: rip
Nvidia drivers are bad on linux too |
Lady Mipha#0611: ^^^^
Dogecode#7321: Though I didn’t have many issues with graphics on my 1660 ti when I had it on that system
Dogecode#7321: It pretty much just worked
Dogecode#7321: Granted that is a newer card
Dogecode#7321: Older ones can prove troublesome
Katiusz#6059: You are from USA?
Dogecode#7321: ye
Katiusz#6059: You can search what prize you have on AMD rx 460
Katiusz#6059: @Dogecode?
Dogecode#7321: cheapest one on my ebay is about $100
Dogecode#7321: jeez that’s expensive for that
Dogecode#7321: It’s not even a good variant, just the shitty hp oem one
Katiusz#6059: 4gb?
Dogecode#7321: 2gb lmao :Hahahahaha:
Lady Mipha#0611: :trolled: |
Katiusz#6059: In Poland cost start 350 USD
Dogecode#7321: bro
Dogecode#7321: It’s a weak card to begin with
Dogecode#7321: and to cost that much
Dogecode#7321: The gpu crisis is stupid
Dogecode#7321: Cheapest 4GB one is like $165
Katiusz#6059: If you have card not in use you can ship to me
Dogecode#7321: and it says it has dead fans
Dogecode#7321: :Hahahahaha:
Katiusz#6059: On my gtx 560 ti i have very high noise from fans
Dogecode#7321: best card I have besides the 1660 ti is a gtx 570
Dogecode#7321: Which is basically what you have
Dogecode#7321: so it wouldn’t be worth it for you to buy it from me
Katiusz#6059: What cost
Katiusz#6059: I dont have to much money |
Katiusz#6059: Prize *
Katiusz#6059: You have better prize
Katiusz#6059: @Dogecode
JustinXenyx#8854: If you're switching from Windows to Linux to get maximum performance that's not really smart
JustinXenyx#8854: Seeing as you have an NVIDIA card you will probably loose performance instead of gaining any, especially given that your 560Ti does not support Vulkan which is basically a requirement for modern Linux gaming
MELON#4356: guys my all in one pc has its usb removed from the inside and it needs a new hard drive
Dogecode#7321: then put a new hard drive in
ideally a ssd
What’s the problem
are all the usb ports gone so you can’t install windows
might have to do a network boot or something then if there’s no cd drive or any other ports you can use
Germanchiller17#4761: >Asks for help
>Dissapears
>Refuses to elaborate
|
Status: Sigma?
MELON#4356: Oki
MELON#4356: Yes the windows copy usb is not there
MELON#4356: Leaves for 10 seconds and then someone gets bu heart that I did not reply and you epect me to be online 24/7
MELON#4356: @Germanchiller17 y u mad at me
Razorsz#5056: bruh some people arent fixated at a device 24/7 lmao and sometimes it takes a while for a reply from someone
MELON#4356: Ikr
Germanchiller17#4761: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/918969820291145858/unknown.png
Germanchiller17#4761: First of fall i never said i was mad at you
Germanchiller17#4761: Secondly 1hour isnt just 10 secs
DarknessFalls229#2286: tbf, he only got a response 36 minutes lateer
Germanchiller17#4761: I never said anything about it
Germanchiller17#4761: Only called them a sigma
Germanchiller17#4761: (Which is good but aight)
DarknessFalls229#2286: oh, i thought seriously you meant something like ligma |
Germanchiller17#4761: No like a sigma male
Germanchiller17#4761: https://yt3.ggpht.com/U_FGSq1cCySSYbUg4TXJ63pJoSDKBMP9K3PqAJfwfuh_F5KpEF1RMjw4r_x6ZtYjs_NJNIxralI=s900-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj
Germanchiller17#4761: this
Germanchiller17#4761: @MELON
MELON#4356: mate
MELON#4356: https://tenor.com/view/kp0-idgaf-loading-failed-to-give-a-fuck-gif-7902578
Germanchiller17#4761: its you who cried i was mad after complimenting you
Heretic#2498: whats going on here?
Racey#8574: wtf
Heretic#2498: you kids need to behave or a time out is in order
MELON#4356: i am
MELON#4356: wdym
MELON#4356: sorry thought u were dissing me
Heretic#2498: can we drop this?
Yon#7961: headset recommendation |
rriot#6100: are you asking for one orr?
Perdus#3993: so my lil brother wanted a new phone so i gave him my iphone 7 that i use as a daily
Perdus#3993: my other phone i have is a first gen SE
Perdus#3993: suprisingly it doesnt feel slow or even bad
Perdus#3993: phone is actually great
Perdus#3993: just that the phone is small,only 4"
Yon#7961: no buying someone one
rriot#6100: you're not giving us an awful lot to work with tbh
Yon#7961: lmfao alright
Yon#7961: budget lower than 100
Yon#7961: wired
Yon#7961: and thats it?
rriot#6100: see if you can get the Sennheiser HD 560S for that price or maybe the Cloud II's
Brodie/Avoult#4405: my friend has been using his since 2018 and it's still going strong, he is thinking about getting an iPhone 13 Mini but he really doesnt have a reason to upgrade since it is still doing just fine
Dogecode#7321: i used a 6s till recently, was great till your battery dies within about an hour or two and you're left without a phone for the rest of the day :OmegaxD: |
Brodie/Avoult#4405: my friend also replaced the battery on his SE a few times
Dogecode#7321: it was a bit slow at times too but that was probably because it was throttling itself just to barely stay alive
"peak performance management" or whatnot
Dogecode#7321: sometimes it would just shut down as soon as you unplugged it at 100%
Ninetenlives#0748: oh question on the usb c port does this description mean I can charge it off usb c and use docks on it?
Ninetenlives#0748: 1 SuperSpeed USB Type-C® 10Gbps signaling rate (USB Power Delivery, DisplayPort™ 1.4, HP Sleep and Charge)
Ninetenlives#0748: New laptop I recently got want to know if it’s safe to plug a usb c 65watt charger into it. https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c07548789
_Anubis#0863: Right just asking this question I have a 6700k but want to go up one generation to the 7700k would I need to get another motherboard at the moment I'm using a asrock z170 pro4
JustinXenyx#8854: 7700K should work in the same motherboard, however i don't think it would be worthwhile for you to upgrade
JustinXenyx#8854: 6700K to 7700K is a fairly insignificant difference
_Anubis#0863: Fair point I was going to invest in a i9 10th gen later and upgrade the graphics card to a 2080ti kingpin these cards are stupidly rare now days
_Anubis#0863: It be good for the index kit 😉
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I mean you could mod the motherboard to accept 8th/9th gen CPU with some trouble
JustinXenyx#8854: I'm not sure if i'd trust that board with an 8700K or a 9900K tbh
_Anubis#0863: Well I don't want to fry another board i had that in the past |
_Anubis#0863: 😅
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/919189565821038603/unknown.png
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Yeah @JustinXenyx it's pretty terrible
JustinXenyx#8854: To be fair that's the Pro4/D3 which is actually a downgrade from the regular Pro4
JustinXenyx#8854: This is the regular Pro4 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/919189868700110908/unknown.png
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Looks more like it
JustinXenyx#8854: Certainly better than the Pro4/D3, but it's not filling me with 8700K or 9900K levels of confidence
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Maybe a normal 8700 or 9700 I guess
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It certainly beats getting a 7700K
Keith.#1048: this looks so awful
Keith.#1048: i want to puke
_Anubis#0863: the board looks bad but it does actually not too bad runs quite smooth for a ddr4 board
jojosensei#4198: Any way to remove dirt under my touchpad ? Without opening the laptop which is under warranty
DarknessFalls229#2286: brush and canned air
jojosensei#4198: Which kind of brush ? |
DarknessFalls229#2286: soft
Keith.#1048: according to this guy we all should keep batteries hot https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/919256363891310623/unknown.png
Brodie/Avoult#4405: 🔥
The United States Air Force#7904: :Hahahahaha:
Perdus#3993: anybody know how to pair a touch led remote to a reciever
Perdus#3993: nvm it was just a god damn weak power supply
kyria_kous#4494: Change the battery. The cell has gone bad.
Dogecode#7321: unnecessary at this point
i just got a new phone
No sense putting money into something thats gonna be obsolete in a year
Dogecode#7321: less than a year now
kyria_kous#4494: Yeeeess!!!
Andreyd#8962: unsoldering bga help:JellyBeanFace:
_Anubis#0863: Now I'm looking at that wondering if my smoke detector is going to go off at any point 😅
Heretic#2498: this is why i microwave my batteries to charge them |
Keith.#1048: 😂
Heretic#2498: the sparks and fire mean it's working
Katiusz#6059: Hello
Katiusz#6059: I have some problem with my deepin os 20.3
Katiusz#6059: Im stuck on 800x600 resolution
Katiusz#6059: Im install nvidia drivers
Katiusz#6059: Ant i cant change high
Heretic#2498: @Katiusz when you first boot does the hardware manager pop up saying there is no hardware acceleration?
Mr365truck#5705: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/549830013915234306/919772494280409198/IMG_4339.jpg
Mr365truck#5705: building a pc for my dads work; i tried to convince them to go amd but they're all intel fanboys
Mr365truck#5705: gpu will be a 2070s
Brodie/Avoult#4405: damn
Razorsz#5056: he just wants the i7 flex permit
Razorsz#5056: :Hahaha:
Mr365truck#5705: we already have a 9700k and a 8700 |
ThisAccountIsHack#6296: I managed to hackintosh my ho laptop with all drivers
ThisAccountIsHack#6296: Hp*
Mr365truck#5705: nice
Mr365truck#5705: whats a good late 2000s sound card
Germanchiller17#4761: Bruh
Mr. Abdelrahman#0187: guys how ubuntu run radeon hd 5670 i have the same driver on this card but it didn.t work on ubuntu
Judith#4404: I think you need to install the xserver-xorg-video-ati package for that card
Judith#4404: It looks like older GPUs, like your GPU, are supported by the Radeon driver, which is a part of Ubuntu by default
Heretic#2498: least you went 10th gen over 11th gen
Mr365truck#5705: Yeah, $220 at microcenter
Katiusz#6059: Guys
Katiusz#6059: I have problem
Katiusz#6059: I need to clean my gtx 560 ti but in all shop on my country have out of stock termalpads and guys you maybe have on you house no use termal pads nad cam send to me?
Katiusz#6059: Thanks
Grockle#7163: AliExpress |
Katiusz#6059: Buy some no name termalpads and have fair to not burn you gpu thanks
Katiusz#6059: And wait 2-3 moths
Grockle#7163: AliExpress thermal pads would be fine most likely
Grockle#7163: for just a 560Ti
Katiusz#6059: But you need to change 3 moths later
The United States Air Force#7904: What country?
Katiusz#6059: Poland
Katiusz#6059: All computers shop is out of stock
Katiusz#6059: @The United States Air Force
ThisAccountIsHack#6296: @Mr365truck I see You got the i7 flex card 💳
Mr365truck#5705: I have 3 flex cards :dAB:
Mr365truck#5705: And two literal cards I can flex
Mr365truck#5705: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/549830013915234306/920160675815378994/IMG_4358.png
Mr365truck#5705: Core 2 quad q8300, p35 mobo
Finn Bianga#6892: I love how gigabyte likes to flex specs on their boards |
Finn Bianga#6892: Like lmao ddr2-1066
Finn Bianga#6892: Probably impressive for its time but really dates this thing
Mr365truck#5705: I also love how the vrms get a heatpipe going to the chipset heatsink
Mr365truck#5705: It’s so weird and probably does nothing, if not hurts performance
Kurriochi#3447: @Budget what debloating tool did you use in the "cheapest gaming PC on facebook" video for win 10?
Scav Rat#6490: can 2nd this if you can tag me with answer
JustinXenyx#8854: https://github.com/Sycnex/Windows10Debloater @Kurriochi @Scav Rat
JustinXenyx#8854: Budget used the GUI version of this
Scav Rat#6490: thanks bbycakes
Kurriochi#3447: thank youu
Scav Rat#6490: why does it remove xbox app
Scav Rat#6490: i use that shit
JustinXenyx#8854: It does so by default, you can configure it to not do that
JustinXenyx#8854: Ideally you should debloat fresh installs only though
Scav Rat#6490: how |
Scav Rat#6490: eh
Scav Rat#6490: il leave it then
JustinXenyx#8854: You go into the script file and take all the Xbox stuff out
Budget#8265: Only use on a Fresh Install
Kurriochi#3447: Dw, that was my plan
kotr#5588: @UKVamp @Oniix
Oniix#8055: @【Ｄｅｍｏｎ Ｚｅｐｐｅｌｉｎ】 :no:
The United States Air Force#7904: Lol
kyria_kous#4494: That VRM heatsink be looking serious!
Mr365truck#5705: I doubt it does anything lol
Mr365truck#5705: The heatpipe
Mr365truck#5705: Especially considering revisions 1.0 and 1.1 didn’t have it
Mr365truck#5705: Also I don’t have any thermal pads to replace them with so it’s relying on the 14 year old ones on there
Mr365truck#5705: Anyways how can I find ddr2 for cheap
Scav Rat#6490: ebay actions and bulk bins / lcoal sellers with tech clearouts of dont no what they have |
Mr365truck#5705: How to find bulk bins or tech cleanouts
Dogecode#7321: go to recycle center
Mr365truck#5705: For ewaste?
Dogecode#7321: well maybe some of it
But some of it could be good too
Dogecode#7321: Lots of good stuff gets thrown out cause one thing broke, for example
Dogecode#7321: Of course not every recycle center lets you take it
Perdus#3993: so guys i need some help
Perdus#3993: i cant find reliable information about S Video to RCA adapters
Perdus#3993: i have some kind of it
Perdus#3993: but it isnt Red-Yellow-White
Perdus#3993: jts Red Green Blue
Perdus#3993: A RGB Cable
Perdus#3993: so is it possible that i connect this to a classic RCA style tv?
Perdus#3993: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/920492847084478484/912F8A8B-DA07-4AE5-A621-2F69C935198F.jpg |
Perdus#3993: and if possible which one would go where
Dogecode#7321: if it only has the red white and yellow jacks, you need a component to composite adapter
Dogecode#7321: and I don’t think that cable carries audio
JustinXenyx#8854: Hell no
JustinXenyx#8854: That's not a composite / RCA adapter, that's S-Video to Component video
Perdus#3993: Idk,thats why im asking
Perdus#3993: thanks for the help guys
Alcyone#2233: well its din to component
Alcyone#2233: if you have a tv with component inputs it will plug right in
Alcyone#2233: s video I think has 4 pins, that will be 6 or 7
D4V1D#9593: is this okay for my 12v https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/920740400736645130/unknown.png
D4V1D#9593: full load
D4V1D#9593: 235w gpu
Postal#0001: onboard sensors are never "accurate"
Postal#0001: but it is still within tollerence |
Postal#0001: the 12V rail tolerance is 11.4V - 12.6V
D4V1D#9593: Alright
Judith#4404: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/920821509797343232/Screenshot_20211215-183541.png
Oma#4564: fellas
Oma#4564: i need a mouse, a good mouse
Oma#4564: a mouse that is durable, reliable, and affordable
Oma#4564: two to three side buttons, and at a mid range price
Oma#4564: bonus points if it's wireless
Mr365truck#5705: g502 hero lightspeed
Mr365truck#5705: basic bitch mouse
Mr365truck#5705: idk might be better ones out there but i've used the wired version for 2 years now no issues
Mr365truck#5705: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/920896198775300156/3DD11EE3-BCB6-4FA4-B4A6-3AA3E59EA09F.jpg
Mr365truck#5705: Guess what this is
Oma#4564: except for the g502
Oma#4564: that mice has ass qc |
Oma#4564: you're lucky you have a good one
Mr365truck#5705: lol
Mr365truck#5705: prob do
Brodie/Avoult#4405: GT120 from a 2008 or later Mac Pro
Dogecode#7321: i got the mx518 (new version) and I like it
Dogecode#7321: ye
Oma#4564: heard that one's good also
Lady Mipha#0611: GT 110 or 120 from a 2008 Mac pro
Mr365truck#5705: 120
Mr365truck#5705: Nice
sygys#7655: does anyone know how to read the edge/chromium in general error dump files?
12OVER12#2624: This might be a dumb question: but does anyone know a good adfree Tetris clone?
sygys#7655: I had Edge suddenly close for no reason on me twice today
sygys#7655: tetr.io
sygys#7655: just use adblock for ads |
12OVER12#2624: I meant for Android
sygys#7655: oh well u didnt say that
12OVER12#2624: My bad.
sygys#7655: is anyone here able to decode to me what this means? I used WinDbg to read the dump files
sygys#7655: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/921155189757603870/message.txt
Keith.#1048: reinstall the browser
thatubuntuguy#5914: Wanted to ask, i have undervolted my 4700mq but i think it's taking wayyy too much power
I've read on other forums that -90mv was enough for them to run full 3.4ghz boost on all cores
But -110mv is just enough for 3150-3200mhz for me, do i just have a bad silicon lottery or is something wrong?
Also short term package power doesn't apply unless i go into the bios and save and exit into the OS - and then it'll hit 3.4Ghz at 53 watts, but then it disables itself when i put the machine to sleep
So after wakeup tdp is limited to 47 watts
thatubuntuguy#5914: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/921352305289343036/unknown.png
thatubuntuguy#5914: And critical offset doesn't apply no matter what, starts thermal throttling at 92 degrees
Lady Mipha#0611: Was about to say check XTU but you're using Linux
thatubuntuguy#5914: Yh i feel that may be part of the issue |
thatubuntuguy#5914: I barely use discord btw so ping me if you have any ideas
D.D.M#8226: @thatubuntuguy maybe try flashing an image of Hirens Boot CD, and try XTU if you dont have windows
thatubuntuguy#5914: Does xtu work on hirens boot CD? I do have a usb with hiren on it @D.D.M so I could try that yh
thatubuntuguy#5914: I have unlocked bios and this option is greyed out so I think the bios has an MSR lock on the tjoffset
D.D.M#8226: It should
D.D.M#8226: I think
D.D.M#8226: Give it a shot
D.D.M#8226: Most of the diagnostic software ive used on hirens worked
JustinXenyx#8854: It'll probably work but you need XTU installed for the undervolt to stay as far as i know
thatubuntuguy#5914: @JustinXenyx good to see you again bro
Cool I'll try it when I get back home. I have a feeling it's a buggy bios because I unlocked it myself - and it's an older version
thatubuntuguy#5914: For reference it's a t440p with advanced menu unlocked and WiFi whitelist removed
thatubuntuguy#5914: The undervolt definitely works in Linux because it goes from max turbo 2.7 GHz to 3.2ghz before getting power throttled, just the short term 58w power limit that is not working correctly
Ninetenlives#0748: Anyone know how to stop windows 11 from updating my HP bios. I even tried a clean reinstall and windows update keeps updating the bios every few weeks as HP releases them apparently.
Ninetenlives#0748: Went from. F10 to F12 on my amd ryzen 7 5700u laptop how can I stop this? |
Ninetenlives#0748: At least Linux doesn’t do this as of yet
Ninetenlives#0748: My guess is if I disable the firmware driver that it may stop these fing bios updates, I sure hope so as I know each flash takes like a cycle away in my eprom/ic bios chip. Though I think I can flash a winbond chip upto 500 or more
Keith.#1048: Nothing bad about a bios update
Keith.#1048: And there should be an option in BIOS to disable UEFI updates
Ninetenlives#0748: I know there’s nothing terrible but usually prefer to have an option when it’s comes to updating a BIOS
Ninetenlives#0748: Especially low level software updates like that
Keith.#1048: Those updates won't wear out the chip at all
Ninetenlives#0748: And from bad experience on a Dell xps core two duo laptop bios update gone wrong
Ninetenlives#0748: Had to reflash the bios manually by a bios programmer
Ninetenlives#0748: That’s good
Keith.#1048: That's called Dell's incompetence
Ninetenlives#0748: Probably so though I think Dell and hp has gotten better since 2009 with their firmwares and ic chips
Ninetenlives#0748: Since this update only did the boot rom of the bios
Ninetenlives#0748: So not a big one thankfully
Ninetenlives#0748: Though I still like to know how to stop this |
Ninetenlives#0748: Just in case Hp issued a crappy updates etc
Keith.#1048: HP machines have the normal SPI flash and EC paired together, ME is stored in SPI which is regularly updated when needed
Ninetenlives#0748: And had to wait to get it fix
Keith.#1048: Forgot what it was on AMD
Ninetenlives#0748: 👍
Keith.#1048: There's always an easy solution, don't force power off a machine mid updating
Ninetenlives#0748: I don’t mind me on intel but the rest of my bios rom being messed with I’m not a fan of unless I have a choice to do it on my own
Keith.#1048: Rarely an OEM pushes out broken updates that brick the system
Ninetenlives#0748: Still know a way at least
Keith.#1048: These updates on modern machines are usually related to UEFI firmware updates
Ninetenlives#0748: Right true
Ninetenlives#0748: Secure boot etc tmp features
Keith.#1048: Just let it do its thing and never worry
Keith.#1048: Perhaps disable automatic updates if it pisses you off
Ninetenlives#0748: Alright well I will find a way to dump the current one just in case some weird shit happens |
Ninetenlives#0748: Or use my programmer if it’s compatible
Keith.#1048: You'll void the warranty with a disassembly
Keith.#1048: Either you can access the SPI directly or you have to disassemble the machine further
Ninetenlives#0748: Oh I already know as I upgraded the memory
Ninetenlives#0748: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/921558673745117274/1666032C-0315-4A73-88B3-79D675F4E709.jpg
Keith.#1048: Right above SSD
Ninetenlives#0748: At least this laptop is the few thin ones that are upgrade able still
Ninetenlives#0748: Yep
Keith.#1048: That'll be piss easy
Ninetenlives#0748: I know as I have flashed one before to restore my Dell from the dead
Keith.#1048: Fixed a 8460p few weeks ago where I had to take the bottom frame off to access the SPI properly
Keith.#1048: Only got the pressure clamp
Ninetenlives#0748: So I was right about that chip right above the ssd was the bios
Ninetenlives#0748: Okay just like my Dell than
Ninetenlives#0748: That’s good |
Keith.#1048: Just keep in mind it's a HP
Keith.#1048: EC will be there to piss you off
Ninetenlives#0748: Will a CH341A
Ninetenlives#0748: Work
Ninetenlives#0748: As that’s what I have at the moment
Keith.#1048: Yes
Ninetenlives#0748: Thank god
Ninetenlives#0748: Thanks man
Keith.#1048: All you're doing really is dumping the raw data from SPI so any reader that's compatible works
Ninetenlives#0748: I always try to use AMI or the phoenix bios tools to dump it though this laptop is supper locked down
Ninetenlives#0748: Before updating etc
Keith.#1048: AsProgrammer in Windows or flashrom in Linux will do the dumping/reading/writing fine
Ninetenlives#0748: Yea I tried in windows no luck so maybe Linux can help me do that
Ninetenlives#0748: As other computers I had no issues
Keith.#1048: Flashrom is CLI based so you have to know your way around |
Keith.#1048: Otherwise it can also flash on the laptop itself while booted to Linux
Ninetenlives#0748: Right I had to follow a guide to get my Dell xps working again in 2018 after that bad update
Ninetenlives#0748: After flashing that bios again it was fine
Ninetenlives#0748: Though I had to use that programmer to get there
Ninetenlives#0748: Thanks now I know my hunch was right
Keith.#1048: They're handy no matter what
Ninetenlives#0748: Thanks for confirming
Keith.#1048: No prob
Ninetenlives#0748: Still wondering why apotio any version didn’t let me dump the amd bios I also tried other versions from AMI
Ninetenlives#0748: Hopefully On Debian or Ubuntu I can dump this without having to take the laptop apart again lol
Ninetenlives#0748: I forgot to use the CH341A while upgrading it
Ninetenlives#0748: Oops
Keith.#1048: As a little cheat note from my experience:
HP machines that are business class from 2011 and up use 16MB SPI flash with EC which is easy to piss off |
Dells it depends if you got a consumer class or business class, most consumer machines have the SPI separated to 6MB and 2MB partitions which you have to modify the Windows updater contents together with hex editor
Lenovo is fairly simple and straightforward, they got a single 16MB chip or a pair of two different sizes, T530 iirc had 8+4MB
Asus/Acer are simple af, single chip and flash
Rest of the common consumer class machines are 90% simple SPI flash you can flash/dump/read/modify etc without any roadblocks
My experience ends within DDR2/DDR3 platform era tho
Keith.#1048: And as a reminder Intel ME is a bitch to work with
Ninetenlives#0748: Well yea agree I bought a desktop from my friend as he wasn’t using it and found that the reason was because he said it was supper slow even after paying a guy to reinstall windows. Found out that basically he updated the bios and it was an Hp system well apparently Hp posted a amd bios on a intel system with just the serial number also being included which I was shocked at how that can even happen. As the older bios versions were intel but the newest one which was the only one up had amd
Ninetenlives#0748: I had to reflash his motherboard which thankfully was partly posting somehow
Ninetenlives#0748: Also imagine using windows 10 without intel microcode
Ninetenlives#0748: And mixes with amd ones |
Ninetenlives#0748: Basically a pentium 2 or maybe slower as it took windows 10 minutes to boot and 2 minutes just to open the command prompt
Ninetenlives#0748: But thankful the AMI tools managed to flash the right one when booted
Keith.#1048: You're bluffing because AMD BIOS on a intel board will not even post
Ninetenlives#0748: No I can show a screen shot the serial number is gone etc
Ninetenlives#0748: After reflashing it one sec
Keith.#1048: Remember the EC I mentioned?
Ninetenlives#0748: One sec I also have proof from a forum
Keith.#1048: HP BIOS stores ALL of the serial numbers, MAC address for ethernet and such
Keith.#1048: But the fact a different CPU vendor BIOS worked but was slow is a straight lie
Ninetenlives#0748: Nah I can flash it again to show proof
Ninetenlives#0748: It will take me a bit though
Ninetenlives#0748: https://www.win-raid.com/t4376f16-PROBLEM-Adjust-BIOS-version-HP-Pavilion-ng-AMI-Aptio.html
Ninetenlives#0748: I don’t know what to tell you but there’s proof
Ninetenlives#0748: Also I can send a screenshot of my serial numbers being completely gone after I had to reflash
Ninetenlives#0748: In windows |
Ninetenlives#0748: Also key is gone from the bios
Keith.#1048: You're saying "HP posted a intel version on AMD system"
Ninetenlives#0748: Yep
Keith.#1048: Key IS stored in UEFI
Ninetenlives#0748: Somehow didn’t get bricked
Keith.#1048: It gets bricked
Ninetenlives#0748: Don’t know how either
Keith.#1048: Then it wasn't a wrong platform BIOS
Ninetenlives#0748: Unless failed when he did it
Ninetenlives#0748: Maybe that
Ninetenlives#0748: Though from what I read and had to do pointed otherwise possibly 🤷♂️
Ninetenlives#0748: Though on a clean install of windows and Linux it would take 10 minutes with even a new hard drive just to boot
Ninetenlives#0748: Until I flashed a older bios
Ninetenlives#0748: With AMI since hp doesn’t allow bios downgraded as far as I can tell
Ninetenlives#0748: I tried the bios recovery as well but failed |
Ninetenlives#0748: Almost grabbed out the bios flasher
Ninetenlives#0748: Heres some proof of the serial numbers gone after reflashing the bios barely working
Ninetenlives#0748: And yea that’s my test monitor my main is right here. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/921572208273399868/IMG_0334.jpg
Ninetenlives#0748: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/921572286589444096/A5E6B233-0C3F-4EDC-9E7F-983581A1AAB5.jpg
Keith.#1048: Unrelated to being a completely different CPU platform BIOS
Ninetenlives#0748: I don’t. Know what to say
Ninetenlives#0748: Alright
Ninetenlives#0748: Well anyway to get the serial number back as it now works again. Can you explain why it was supper slow as I had to reflash the bios just to get it to go back to normal
Ninetenlives#0748: And the latest one makes it supper slow and unusable and at one unstable
Ninetenlives#0748: Do you know what possibly happened to cause this?
Ninetenlives#0748: At least it’s working again but without serial number and missing info.
Ninetenlives#0748: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/921574267429216276/F702B39C-3985-4DF7-8893-B616B65A4442.jpg
Ninetenlives#0748: Yea that Samsung was my test monitor this is my main area
Muse#0557: @Tech Helper Sue me https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/921835427269333053/Hierarchy_V5.png
DarknessFalls229#2286: why? |
JustinXenyx#8854: I think Vega 8, 11 and 2060 are a lot harder to put into classes now
JustinXenyx#8854: the 2060 12GB is basically a 2060 Super with the memory bus of a regular 2060, while the Vega iGPUs have improved considerably from the 2000 series APUs up to to the 5000 series APUs
JustinXenyx#8854: 5700Gs Vega 8 probably beats a 2400Gs Vega 11 at this point
JustinXenyx#8854: so there's definitely potential for confusion
DarknessFalls229#2286: and how about something like VEGA 7?
DarknessFalls229#2286: and appearently VEGA 6?
DarknessFalls229#2286: sigh
DarknessFalls229#2286: couldnt even call it VEGA v2 or something?
DarknessFalls229#2286: or v4 at this point
SniperulTF2ist#5685: i know there's vega 10
DarknessFalls229#2286: which one is that?
SniperulTF2ist#5685: form a ryzen 7 apu
JustinXenyx#8854: Vega 7 is in the 5600G, Vega 6 and lower (except Vega 3) only exist in Ryzen 4000 OEM desktop APUs or mobile APUs and the list is primarily desktop GPUs
zwect#1210: will the A520M-E Asus Prime hold up a 5600G?
zwect#1210: without a GPU, so the 5600g will rarely be stressed to it's 100% |
DarknessFalls229#2286: looks low end, as expected
zwect#1210: yeah ik
DarknessFalls229#2286: but its fine for such a chip
DarknessFalls229#2286: wouldnt go higher personally though
JustinXenyx#8854: That board should be fine for a 5600G, but i probably wouldn't go past a 5600G with that board
zwect#1210: hmm
zwect#1210: it's because here on brazil
zwect#1210: the CPU only
zwect#1210: is more expensive
zwect#1210: than a kit with that motherboard
zwect#1210: and that cpu
zwect#1210: so that looks like a better choice isnt it?
DarknessFalls229#2286: me and justin be like https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/921853479813795891/C-658VsXoAo3ovC.png
zwect#1210: but it's temporary
zwect#1210: the motherboard would be replaced later in some months, maybe 6 |
DarknessFalls229#2286: well, as said, its fine
JustinXenyx#8854: If it's cheaper than getting a 5600G on its own then definitely do that instead
zwect#1210: so no VRM suffering?
DarknessFalls229#2286: dont think so no
JustinXenyx#8854: You could resell the motherboard later on or use it for a different PC
zwect#1210: yeah i thought so
JustinXenyx#8854: I'd get VRM heatsinks to be save, but with the stock Ryzen cooler they're not needed
JustinXenyx#8854: The stock cooler should provide enough airflow for the VRM
zwect#1210: really? the wraith stealth?
zwect#1210: hmmm okay
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah
JustinXenyx#8854: The stock cooler is blowing air on the motherboard, so there should be sufficient air circulation around the VRMs to keep them cool enough
zwect#1210: i see
Muse#0557: All fair points especially regarding the vega gpus, I also know there are ones that aren't on there but some are mobile only? I can add a 12gb 2060 if it's worth it but any other recommendations on what to actually change on the graph?
Alcyone#2233: Make every tier gt710. |
Muse#0557: 👀 😔
Muse#0557: 🐸
Alcyone#2233: Joking aside add the new 12th gen igpu. It's faster than a 1030
JustinXenyx#8854: I'd add the Ryzen 5000 and possibly some of the newer Intel iGPs as well as the 2060 12GB, but we kinda need a way to differentiate the old and the new Vega iGPs
JustinXenyx#8854: I'd shift the original 2060 down to 1070 tier and keep the 2060 12GB with the 2060S in the same tier since i'm expecting 2060S and 2060 12GB to perform fairly closely
JustinXenyx#8854: actually nah, 2060 should stay in roughly 1080 and 1070Ti tier
JustinXenyx#8854: RX6600 and 3060 perform fairly similar too, the 3060 shouldn't be higher
JustinXenyx#8854: 6600XT should be in 3060Ti tier
JustinXenyx#8854: although tbh the lines are kinda starting to blur in the higher end categories anyway
Muse#0557: New gpus are so fucking similar it's stupid
JustinXenyx#8854: Can't really have 6600XT and 6700XT in the same tier and the 6700XT is definitely not near the RX6800
Muse#0557: Hard to end and start a band
Muse#0557: This is what happens when each manufacturer keeps serving the same 2 gpus with different gimps
JustinXenyx#8854: I'm kinda thinking we should probably make this a spreadsheet instead to be honest
JustinXenyx#8854: It'd be easier to account for specific card quirks and you could put in notes too |
Muse#0557: Sounds interesting
Muse#0557: What exactly do you mean
thatubuntuguy#5914: @JustinXenyx Trying to install xtu but it won't let me unfortunately on windows pe
thatubuntuguy#5914: Is there a portable version?
JustinXenyx#8854: I don't think there is a portable version of XTU
thatubuntuguy#5914: hmm, so no way I can use xtu on pe
thatubuntuguy#5914: Throttlestop might work i'll try that
JustinXenyx#8854: Instead of trying to cram everything onto a roughly 720p image we should just whack it into a spreadsheet instead
Muse#0557: I think it is 720p lmao
Muse#0557: Should of used vectors
Mr365truck#5705: What kind of idle temps should I expect with a liquid freezer ii 240 on my 8700?
Mr365truck#5705: Bc I don’t think it should be idling at 43
Mr365truck#5705: Oh yeah I fucked up the mounting, just ran a cinebench and it spiked to 99
JustinXenyx#8854: well that solved itself quite quickly
JustinXenyx#8854: :KEKW: |
Mr365truck#5705: Think I used too much thermal paste because the coolers mounted on fine
Alcyone#2233: You can't use too much
Postal#0001: ^
Postal#0001: excess just spills out
Postal#0001: around the die/ihs
Alcyone#2233: Is the pump cable on a header that runs full speed?
Alcyone#2233: That's the only thing I can think of unless you left the plastic on the cold plate or something
Postal#0001: unless somehow the paste under the IHS has lost partial contact
Mr365truck#5705: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/921924436138012682/IMG_4438.jpg
Postal#0001: yeah that didnt spread
Mr365truck#5705: What did I do wrong lmao
Postal#0001: and you didnt remove the old paste either
Mr365truck#5705: The old paste was 2 months old
Mr365truck#5705: Figured it’d be fine, guess not
Postal#0001: i must ask, why a liquid freezer 240 |
Postal#0001: for a locked CPU?
Mr365truck#5705: No budget lol
Mr365truck#5705: I tried to convince my dad to go with the 120 mil but was refused
Postal#0001: only thing that comes to mind that would cause the bad contact is the posts that go into the backplate
Postal#0001: are either too long
Postal#0001: or not screwed all the way in
Mr365truck#5705: Not enough space for an air cooler either
Postal#0001: sure these is
Mr365truck#5705: Not one I’d want to use
Postal#0001: thats why these exist https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/921925305562714132/unknown.png
Mr365truck#5705: 120 mm liquid freezer ii is $15 more
Postal#0001: sure
Mr365truck#5705: I live in the states might be cheaper here ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Postal#0001: i mean sure as in okay
Mr365truck#5705: Oh |
Postal#0001: only thing i can think off double check your mounting hardware to see if its all correct
Mr365truck#5705: Yeah
Postal#0001: ive not installed anything modern in terms of AIO
Mr365truck#5705: I’m also going to take off some of the paste
Mr365truck#5705: Used the wrong washers
Mr365truck#5705: Hell yeah https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/921930981341028372/582F2A11-6BEA-4353-8117-7375D504AFA9.jpg
Mr365truck#5705: 56 at 100% load
Mr365truck#5705: 26 idle
thatubuntuguy#5914: Throttlestop worked but it keeps power throttling above 58w kek
thatubuntuguy#5914: Is Killah still around? Perhaps the TDP limit can be removed from the BIOS
Keith.#1048: What are you trying to mod? Laptop or some cheap board
thatubuntuguy#5914: @Keith. Having issues with my T440p - I unlocked the bios myself to remove wifi card whitelist and unlock power limits in "advanced menu" but tdp settings won't work correctly under linux. I've set short term tdp to 58w but it never goes above 47w, unless i enter and exit the bios. But the long term power limit has worked - increased from 37 to 47 watts
thatubuntuguy#5914: So if I could remove the tdp limit from microcode/bios that would probably fix it
thatubuntuguy#5914: Throttlestop seems to work though on hiren's boot cd so perhaps it's a bug in kernel or intel-undervolt
Keith.#1048: Linux moment, literally |
Keith.#1048: Plus it's a safe range to keep it limited at 47W
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: What CPU do you have in the Thinkpad?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I think the sweet spot for it is 4712MQ?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: And do you have the cooler with an extra heatpipe for GPU versions?
Deleted User#0000: I just built a new computer a few days ago, now I'm selling it, but before I sell it, how do I get the proper benchmarks? Like I know to use fraps, but what figures should I look for to get the whole idea of the capabilities, performance wise?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @Deleted User Would you mind uploading the specs here?
Deleted User#0000: Oh sorry about that, intel i7 4770, GTX 750ti, 16GB ddr3 1600mhz, 120GB cheapo ssd
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Hmm let's see
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: For proper benchmark and score comparison you could find benchmark videos on Youtube of similar-ish builds
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Most benchmark tools these days if you want to can check your own score and compare it to other people too
thatubuntuguy#5914: 4700MQ - I have single heatpipe heatsink
thatubuntuguy#5914: eehhh sure but vrms are good for 90w
thatubuntuguy#5914: but yh heatsink rn can't handle 58w it thermal throttles in like 30seconds kek
thatubuntuguy#5914: i need to repaste as i used too much mx4
thatubuntuguy#5914: Btw I figured it out |
thatubuntuguy#5914: If I put the computer to sleep and plug in the power cord, and then wake it up, the power limit will be 58w
thatubuntuguy#5914: if i unplug it the power limit will go back down to 47w
thatubuntuguy#5914: If I plug it back in it will still be 47w, only by sleeping and putting in the cord and waking it up does it apply the proper power limit
thatubuntuguy#5914: Very bizarre but eh it works
thatubuntuguy#5914: Also if I back off on the cache undervolt offset, will it allow me to undervolt the core further
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Must be some sort of EC stroke when entering sleep mode lol
thatubuntuguy#5914: @Charlie Foxtrot I think you are right, i have an older bios version so yh probably a bug
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Like when entering that mode the EC/BIOS it lets go its control of the CPU or whatever and doesn't reinstate memory addresses (load settings) when the laptop is reopened
thatubuntuguy#5914: cuz rn i'm at -107mv core and cache and it's slightly unstable, like crashes every few hours
thatubuntuguy#5914: but it's still so hot, if i could undervolt the core further i could bring 3.4ghz turbo within 55w
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: CPU and cache UV go hand in hand on my 7700HQ at least
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: You should bring it down to -80mV
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Also too much thermal paste can hurt
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It actually makes temps worse
thatubuntuguy#5914: yh ik it needs a repaste, probably will use kryonaut |
thatubuntuguy#5914: i think i can do it separately on haswell
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I mean they should have the same value
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: They are not locked to each other or anything
thatubuntuguy#5914: cuz i saw somewhere (i'll post the link when i find it) the dude who wrote throttlestop telling some guy to back off his cache offset so they could go further on core
thatubuntuguy#5914: ye that's what i thought as well until i saw that
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Regardless I think this is what you should try first
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: And lock the clockspeed to like 3.2Ghz or lower
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Because you haven't bought the dual pipe heatsink yet
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @thatubuntuguy
JustinXenyx#8854: I'd kinda be worried about if that T440p can even handle 58W power bursts in the first place tbh
JustinXenyx#8854: Like not just the VRMs, but also the battery/ies and the power supply
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: A guy tried the Aliexpress CPU pulled out from dead Macbooks that's even more demanding than this and with the proper mods it seems to work, but perf is kinda hampered either because of the cooling or like you say, VRM/power supply
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SWw_Tx_iwM
DarknessFalls229#2286: "proper mods", what kinda mods we talking here?
DarknessFalls229#2286: Bios mods or like physical mods? |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Actually it doesn't require any mods to run
DarknessFalls229#2286: ah, convenient
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: He just buys LM and the cooler meant for T440p with dGPU (dual heatpipes)
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: But as you can see, 630 in CB15 for this CPU is not right
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It should get at least 700
JustinXenyx#8854: I don't even get why you'd want to push that much power on a laptop to be quite honest
JustinXenyx#8854: as in like actual power draw and not processing power
JustinXenyx#8854: At the point where you're pushing 50-70W into mobile CPUs you're getting into desktop with glorified battery backup runtime territory
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Pretty much :OmegaxD:
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: And the guy in the video above also made a comparison with 8265U and it performs the same as the 4980HQ with like, 1/3 the TDP
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: That's why it's not worth it
JustinXenyx#8854: Upgraded T440p with a 4980HQ is probably in a similar pricing territory than a used 8250 + MX130/150 laptop too
DarknessFalls229#2286: that laptop dont even have a dGPU either right?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It does
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: But it's pretty...bad |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: GT 730M or 740M I don't remember
DarknessFalls229#2286: then why are you talking about replacing the cooler with one meant for a dGPU variant?
JustinXenyx#8854: T440p has a dogshit dGPU and when you're running those high power CPUs you don't really have much power left over for a dGPU
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It has 2 variants, one with dGPU and one without
DarknessFalls229#2286: so, i was right, at least about the other dudes laptop?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://octoperf.com/blog/2018/11/07/thinkpad-t440p-buyers-guide/#hd4600-or-gt730m
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: ```According to Lenovo T440P specs, they have four iGPU versions: 004X1853 (Toshiba fan, deprecated), 00HM902 (Toshiba), 04X3915 (AVC) and 04X3917 (Delta). The dGPU version are: 004X1854 (Toshiba fan, deprecated), 00HM903 (Toshiba), 04X3916 (AVC) and 04X3918 (Delta).
From user experience, the Delta and Toshiba variants are the quietest. Toshiba fan, deprecated should be avoided as those are fans reputable for making a lot of noise.```
JustinXenyx#8854: the dGPU variants cooler is more optimal when you're pushing the CPUs power draw into oblivion if i understand correctly
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah, but is it really worh the extra horsepower when you dont even have the graphics to push it?
JustinXenyx#8854: I definitely don't think it's worth it
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: $700, you could buy a Ryzen 5 or 7 with 1650 and it will smash this Thinkpad into bits
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: But its main appeal is not the perf, rather it's the last fully upgradable Thinkpad
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: You can change literally every part of it except for the frame and case |
DarknessFalls229#2286: change the GPU?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Well you can swap the motherboard
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Still counts
JustinXenyx#8854: Haswell in general was the last arch with socketed laptop CPUs so i kinda see the appeal if you're buying a lower end model
JustinXenyx#8854: If you're already on an i7 i think it's kinda iffy unless you buy a higher end chip to try and get a better bin for downvolting
JustinXenyx#8854: 4600M doesn't count though because it's one of the shit dual core i7s
DarknessFalls229#2286: in that sense every laptop is "literally every part of it except for the frame and case" replacable if it just merely has more that one configuration with and without GPU
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: ``i7 4702MQ: 4 cores, 8 threads, 3.2Ghz Turbo, 37W TDP. This is a reduced TDP quad-core CPU which is topping at 3.2Ghz turbo boost. A very good performance to heat ratio,
I7 4712MQ: 4 cores, 8 threads, 3.3Ghz Turbo, 37W TDP. Slightly faster than the 4702MQ, 100Mhz more. Also a great balance between CPU power and heat.
I7 4810MQ: 4 cores, 8 threads, 3.8Ghz Turbo, 47W TDP,
or even I7 4910MQ: 4 cores, 8 threads, 3.9Ghz Turbo, 47W TDP.`11
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Not minding the GPU, can you find any laptop nowadays that you can upgrade the CPU? Not a lot
DarknessFalls229#2286: well, using the concept as before
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Talking about the GPU is a bit unfair really
DarknessFalls229#2286: you can just replace the motherboard |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Because it's soldered dead to the board
DarknessFalls229#2286: "still counts"
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: And the CPU has a socket
JustinXenyx#8854: nowadays it's more common to find upgradable GPUs than CPUs
JustinXenyx#8854: :KEKW:
JustinXenyx#8854: MXM for the win baby
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Yeah lol
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: MXM forever
DarknessFalls229#2286: i want an pcie 16x to mxm adapter
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: That exists
DarknessFalls229#2286: totally useless, but neat in a way
DarknessFalls229#2286: ive only seen 1x varients though
DarknessFalls229#2286: does the MXM slot have the same pinout as 16x or 8x? otherwise i may just be able to solder on my own adapter
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @DarknessFalls229 https://eurocom.com/ec/images(451)MultiGPU
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/922252232844533830/unknown.png |
DarknessFalls229#2286: neat
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: When you are a very desperate and rich miner
DarknessFalls229#2286: but do you really need separate ones for AMD/NVIDIA?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/922252496783679508/unknown.png
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Probably BIOS/software support related, AMD and NVIDIA GPUs are different after all
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: There's a tiny problem tho
DarknessFalls229#2286: ah, why yes, affordable https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/922252978776322078/unknown.png
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Nani
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: 560 euros
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I saw the 1x ones you told me
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: They are only $30
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Or even less
DarknessFalls229#2286: mhmm
DarknessFalls229#2286: not the cheapest, but certainly not expensive
thatubuntuguy#5914: @Charlie Foxtrot i found the link : https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/throttlestop-ts-bench-errors.278482/ |
thatubuntuguy#5914: scroll down to post #4
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Ahhhhhhhh
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I have seen this before
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Another person also does this with their 9750H
thatubuntuguy#5914: yh true, i bought the thinkpad for £110, my 4700mq was like £60 iirc, fhd display £50, t450 touchpad £10, 9 cell battery £40
thatubuntuguy#5914: so total i spent like £270 and it's soo fast
thatubuntuguy#5914: it's somehow faster than my sp6 i5 8250u which is supposed to be faster but just feels so sluggish
thatubuntuguy#5914: aah right
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Because that 8250U has piss poor base clock and being limited to 10-15W makes it very unresponsive
thatubuntuguy#5914: base clock makes sense, but i unlocked power limit and did a fat undervolt (-140mv core+cache!!) and it's still slower even with performance governor under linux
thatubuntuguy#5914: It'll do 3.4ghz at 25 watts
thatubuntuguy#5914: but fanless so overheats in like 4 minutes
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: There's your problem
thatubuntuguy#5914: and gets thermal throttled
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It's freaking fanless |
thatubuntuguy#5914: yh but the extra power mainly i need just for compiling
thatubuntuguy#5914: it saves a lot of time and only need it for a minute/2 max
thatubuntuguy#5914: but like in general it feels rly sluggish and i'm not sure why
thatubuntuguy#5914: when the temps are all in check
thatubuntuguy#5914: ok i tried backing off cache and increasing core offset - didn't work
thatubuntuguy#5914: crashed in like 2 minutes
thatubuntuguy#5914: backed it down to -105mv, i'll back it down 2mv every time it crashes until it stops
thatubuntuguy#5914: thanks for your help tho man much appreciated 🙏
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Strangely enough I have heard about sluggish perf the most on 8th gen U CPUs
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Considering that 8th gen is basically Kaby Lake with 2 extra cores it's weird
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: So my theory is that base clock + low TDP + design flaws (maybe adding 2 extra cores increases latency) = sluggish perf
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It will take forever, reduce by a good 5 or 10mV, you can do the finetuning once it's stable
thatubuntuguy#5914: Indeed, like CB scores are like really solid with undervolt ~630-640CB holding full boost the entire time on the surface, very much similar to t440p at full pelt at less than half the power budget, but yh it feels like using an old sandy i5 in terms of responsiveness
thatubuntuguy#5914: Latency sounds right
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Just for funsies |
thatubuntuguy#5914: Maybe not so much l1 or l2 cache as otherwise cinebench would probably suffer, but maybe there's implementation flaws on l3 cache
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I am gonna compare the 8th gen and 11th gen i5
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: We got the bastard
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Look at this atrocity
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://www.notebookcheck.net/i5-1135G7-vs-i5-8259U_12238_10068.247596.0.html
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It has 1/5 the L2 cache
thatubuntuguy#5914: Think you've hit the nail on the head there
thatubuntuguy#5914: That certainly explains things
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Wow
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It plagues all 8th gen U
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: LMAO
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: i3-1145G4 has twice the L2 cache at 2.5MB
thatubuntuguy#5914: Wow even the i7s
thatubuntuguy#5914: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i7-8550U-SoC-Benchmarks-and-Specs.242108.0.html
thatubuntuguy#5914: :epicgamer: |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: The dumb continues well into 10th gen
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: :Hahahahaha:
zwect#1210: does anyone here know the game Teardown?
zwect#1210: if so, have access to it?
zwect#1210: and IF so too, what gpu specs?
zwect#1210: ok nvm what im getting is a overlay glitch
The United States Air Force#7904: somehow my 8365u is decent
The United States Air Force#7904: for me at least
The United States Air Force#7904: my 8750h on the other hand
Mr365truck#5705: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/922407954769137684/unknown.png
Mr365truck#5705: 45 degree idle 💀
Mr365truck#5705: could probably use new paste, afaik never been repasted
thatubuntuguy#5914: Opinions on Phobya NanoGrease Extreme?
thatubuntuguy#5914: Gonna buy some for my thiccpad to stop it thermal throttling
thatubuntuguy#5914: I'm seeing it's a great improvement over MX-4 even applied properly, I deffo have too much applied rn :Hahahahaha: |
Razorsz#5056: ive seen a 1060 3gb do okay which most consider the minimum for decent 1080p playability especially when it gets heavy
zwect#1210: yeah i found out that
Razorsz#5056: tbh it should be clocking down lower at idle, (windows 10 has a tiny 3d app running which causes this) mines repasted n idles at about 36 with the fans on lowest and 32 with my custom fan curve
zwect#1210: any overlay makes the FPS go haywire
zwect#1210: the game's engine doesnt likes any overlays
Razorsz#5056: yerp
zwect#1210: i get 100's with my laptop 3060 on max settings and then **30**
zwect#1210: when i enable msi
Mr365truck#5705: What’s the tiny 3D app and can I kill it
Razorsz#5056: u can but itll come back every tume u boot the pc, u can click to 3d tab and itll show u, tho you dont need to be worrying about idle temps
Mr365truck#5705: I worry when it’s 45
Razorsz#5056: its fine for those older cards
Razorsz#5056: they ran hot even at idle
Razorsz#5056: older processes needed higher voltage and on older cards its usually a forced voltage
Mr365truck#5705: 36 idle isn’t running hot, my 2080ti idles at about 35 |
Mr365truck#5705: And it has a beefy ass cooler
Razorsz#5056: 45 isnt either, if it was in the 60s, then yeah repaste asap. the old thermal putty they used is still ok around this time, it does cause hotspots but it still has ok contact so not the end of the world.
Mr365truck#5705: It annoys me tho and I need something to do anyways
Mr365truck#5705: I have some old quadros to practice on
Razorsz#5056: it shouldnt temp wise but i repaste any cards i get. just be careful as the og thermal paste is very sticky. so i recommend doing a stress test with the fans on low so it hits the mid 70s temp wise, that softens it otherwise you are stuck because its difficult to twist off, but you want to open it like a book to the right and lay it flat, cuz the fan connectors do get stuck n need a thin flathead to move the pin shroud tabs off the connector so it can loosen
Razorsz#5056: assumimg its a blower model
Mr365truck#5705: Yeah
Mr365truck#5705: Have you opened this specific model before? I don’t have any thermal pads and would be helpful to know what thickness I need https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/922535493239971970/IMG_4456.png
Razorsz#5056: ive opend 2 blower models, they just use the factory design with custom graphics, the thermal pads will be in tact, i just lightly cleaned mine of any debris and they performed a little better
Razorsz#5056: but please stress test it first, you dont wanna sit there prying n twisting on that old thermal putty, it sucks. u can use 3d mark cloudgate since its the only dx10 bench, use msi afterburner to set the fans at a certain speed like 50-52% do that run ab 3 times
Razorsz#5056: i can go on my laptop n find pics of my cards when i disassembled them
Mr365truck#5705: Yeah, I’m 100% going to
Mr365truck#5705: Don’t want to break it
Razorsz#5056: @Mr365truck ill grab some pictures off my laptop after dinner, show you how it looks
thatubuntuguy#5914: I found that 4700mq is also 1MB l2 cache, but 8 way associative instead of 8th gen which is 4 way associative |
thatubuntuguy#5914: Also base clock for haswell is something stupid low like 800mhz is and is supposed to be much slower at hitting turbo clocks than newer gens
thatubuntuguy#5914: Must be the l2 cache or microcode that explains the responsiveness issues ig
Mr365truck#5705: Why your laptop?
thatubuntuguy#5914: Also mfw when changing governor to performance freaking doubles my multi-core geekbench score :Hahahahaha:
thatubuntuguy#5914: Both times with tdp unlocked
JustinXenyx#8854: There is no such thing as too much paste, especially not with a bare die chip
JustinXenyx#8854: Not enough paste is a big problem with bare die chips though, as it'll cause hotspots that might end up killing the chip completely
Mr365truck#5705: anyone know a good app for limiting the amount of charge the battery gets? im using an hp laptop so the asus and lenovo things are out for me, and the one where it just makes a sound when your laptop charges to the right amount isnt useful to me because i charge while im sleeping
JustinXenyx#8854: You can't use an app for that, your laptop manufacturer would have to provide such a feature
D.D.M#8226: Heyo, so i have a NAS that me and my family uses, but the problem is that we need access to the NAS in another building next door, but in the other building there is a router and not a switch, which means we cant see the NAS, any ideas?
thatubuntuguy#5914: Huh never realised
thatubuntuguy#5914: That makes sense
thatubuntuguy#5914: But yh is phobya nanogrease extreme worth it?
Keith.#1048: Just charge it?
Keith.#1048: Every machine made in past 20 years has a proper safety mechanism lol |
thatubuntuguy#5914: On KDE linux I have this thing which allows me to limit charge on the battery to reduce wear - not sure if that's what you mean
thatubuntuguy#5914: But yh keith is right that nowadays it's not necessary
Keith.#1048: Hasn't been since Li-Ion batteries came to existence
Keith.#1048: There are laptops that utilize an option in BIOS to change battery charge ceiling to 80% of original capacity which seems to help a bit IF your laptop uses 18650 cells
Katiusz#6059: Hello
Katiusz#6059: I have a new problem but with my laptop
Katiusz#6059: Base clock is 1.1ghz boost is 2.9 how to have stable boost to 2.9 always?
Katiusz#6059: Im in game but clock is on 1.1ghz
Katiusz#6059: I go back to desktop laptop go boost
Dogecode#7321: my guess is when you’re in game there’s not enough thermal headroom for it to boost
Dogecode#7321: cause the gpu is running too
Dogecode#7321: it should boost if it was able to
Keith.#1048: power throttle
Keith.#1048: also 1.1GHz on CPU sounds very low for a laptop that has dGPU
Dogecode#7321: ye |
Mr365truck#5705: The whole point is to not charge it
Mr365truck#5705: Yes, that’s exactly what I want, but in windows
thatubuntuguy#5914: Many laptops don't support it afaik, i'm on a t440p which has software access to the charging circuitry for control
thatubuntuguy#5914: What exact machine is it
thatubuntuguy#5914: What machine and OS? @Katiusz
thatubuntuguy#5914: Undervolting and unlocking power limits are the usual things I would try when faced with power throttling
thatubuntuguy#5914: If you're using windows, you can use ThrottleStop provided you haven't updated the bios recently
thatubuntuguy#5914: Under linux and intel cpu, intel-undervolt works well but again you need old bios
Mr365truck#5705: https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp/hp-pavilion-gaming-laptop-15z-ec200-2r1x7av-1
thatubuntuguy#5914: Hmm, at least the omen ones usually have a batterycare option in the bios
thatubuntuguy#5914: Have you had a look in the bios for "batterycare"
thatubuntuguy#5914: Otherwise it might need a bios update to reveal the options
thatubuntuguy#5914: If even that doesn't work then I found this software: https://www.robotonfire.com/bl/ you can connect it to a smart socket and configure it to tell the socket to stop charging the laptop whenever you want
thatubuntuguy#5914: Ugly solution but potentially quite cheap if you get a good deal on smart socket
Mr365truck#5705: I’ll check, thanks |
Hunt Stockwell#5131: Can anyone help me with my laptop not reconigze Bluray discs ?
Hunt Stockwell#5131: Mind you my disc tray supports Bluray and it's not even reconigze them.
Hunt Stockwell#5131: This is a Blu-ray disc https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/923064629243031552/VID_20211222_110406.mp4
Hunt Stockwell#5131: And this is a non Blu-ray one. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/923064947297120268/IMG_20211222_110736.jpg
Hunt Stockwell#5131: @Tech Helper
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Wow
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: That's a chonky laptop
Hunt Stockwell#5131: MSI GT83VR.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: According to the MSI website, and I am assuming you are using a GT83VR with 7920HK, it only has a "BD writer" and "DVD Super Multi"
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Maybe that BD disk is not compatible somehow?
Hunt Stockwell#5131: I guess ?
Hunt Stockwell#5131: I'm not too sure
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I don't find any drivers for that DVD drive either
Hunt Stockwell#5131: So,what's it gonna be for my case then ?
Hunt Stockwell#5131: No way for my laptop to play Bluray discs ? |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Also what's the disk?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Can you show me?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @Hunt Stockwell
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Either incompatibility or DRM
Hunt Stockwell#5131: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/923088752535040050/IMG_20211222_124430.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/923088753130602516/IMG_20211222_124425.jpg
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Yeah I checked the (supposed) BD drive of the laptop
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It seems fine
Hunt Stockwell#5131: So the problem is my disc ?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Wait
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Wait
Hunt Stockwell#5131: Yes ?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Give me a sec
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I saw something about the drive
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I'll talk to you in a bit
Hunt Stockwell#5131: Okay. |
Hunt Stockwell#5131: And then tell me whether it's my drive or my disc had a problem.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Is that BD disk playing in 4K? Or just standard Full HD?
Hunt Stockwell#5131: The latter i belive.
Hunt Stockwell#5131: My screen doesn't support 4K.
Hunt Stockwell#5131: So,is it my drive or my disc ?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I am honestly at a loss
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Your BD is 1080p
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: And most complains online are about how it can't read UHD
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: And needs a firmware flash
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://www.amazon.com/HAZYYO-Internal-Blu-ray-Recorder-Supports/product-reviews/B07L5MPVXS/ref=cm_cr_unknown?pageNumber=1&filterByStar=one_star
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It's either a crap drive, a dying drive, or it's region-locked (somehow)
Hunt Stockwell#5131: I guessed it can only run DVDs then.
Hunt Stockwell#5131: I installed old games on PC-DVD with this.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: ~~Don't buy BD. sail the seven seas~~
Hunt Stockwell#5131: Sorry. |
Hunt Stockwell#5131: I had the latter for the rest of my life.
Hunt Stockwell#5131: So no.
Hunt Stockwell#5131: Life in Thailand is pretty much that.
Hunt Stockwell#5131: So,no Bluray discs for my drive yes ?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Maybe if you can test with another disk or get another drive to test the current one
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I have run out of ideas
Hunt Stockwell#5131: I think my drive is a crap one.
Hunt Stockwell#5131: Probably.
Hunt Stockwell#5131: You know what fuck this,i'll buy a PS5 next year for that.
Hunt Stockwell#5131: You can get a PS5 normally in Thailand btw
Hunt Stockwell#5131: Expensive but not that rare
JustinXenyx#8854: Blu-rays is weird with this, some drives straight up refuse to read UHD Blu-rays
JustinXenyx#8854: It could also be a issue with DRM or region locks
steamypotato#5293: How do I start a laptop without a power button? I know you can start a desktop with a screwdriver but can you do the same with a laptop?
JustinXenyx#8854: In most cases the answer is no |
JustinXenyx#8854: It's not impossible, it's just a pain in the ass to figure out how and it differs from laptop to laptop
JustinXenyx#8854: Some have dedicated power buttons, some have the power button wired into the keyboard etc etc etc
steamypotato#5293: I lost the the power button when I had it apart
steamypotato#5293: My old precision laptop. It lost all signs of life one day and I took it entirely apart looking for a problem and put it back together but it was still strait dead. Then I took it apart again and lost the power button in the process. It's probably a goner 😂
Hunt Stockwell#5131: It's just a normal Blu-ray disc though
dizzydwarf#0262: Looking for iPod nano 2gen bottom bezle
dizzydwarf#0262: https://www.ifixit.com/Store/iPod/iPod-nano-2nd-Gen-Bottom-Bezel/IF199-007?o=1
Hunt Stockwell#5131: Great
Hunt Stockwell#5131: Now my DVD drive is totally busted today
Muse#0557: Might as well buy a broken nano
Muse#0557: Then you'll have all the spares you need
Muse#0557: For less money
primo007#7071: something about this classified doesnt feel quit right... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/923316154632642580/unknown.png
Oma#4564: i think it's just because windows doesn't nativley reconize blu ray disks
Oma#4564: you'd need an app in order to play them |
Oma#4564: unless if you know it worked beforehand
Hunt Stockwell#5131: Already installed all kinds of app and none works
Hunt Stockwell#5131: Heck
Hunt Stockwell#5131: Some of my DVDs now aren't even working properly too.
Oma#4564: damn
zwect#1210: could anyone inform me if the Dell G15 5511 has Gen 4 compatibility?
JustinXenyx#8854: Dells setup guide PDF for this line of models lists one of the two NVMe slots as Gen 4
JustinXenyx#8854: assuming that's what you were asking for
steamypotato#5293: What is this connector? It's bigger than nvme and smaller that mini pci https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/923348823521247282/PXL_20211222_225801246.jpg
zwect#1210: oh
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: mSATA?
steamypotato#5293: Maybe. I'll get a cheap msata drive and try it
Brodie/Avoult#4405: hm, doesnt really look like mSATA
Brodie/Avoult#4405: Yeah that aint m-SATA
Brodie/Avoult#4405: Can you tell me the model of this laptop/PC? |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I have a feeling that it's a port for 3G/4G
Atreea#2307: m.2 sata slot ?
steamypotato#5293: It's a Thinkpad yoga 12
steamypotato#5293: Ngl forgot m.2 existed xD
Atreea#2307: this ping killed me
Atreea#2307: :FeelsRetardedMan:
Atreea#2307: gee if only discord notification system works properly
Grockle#7163: ping
Atreea#2307: so idont need to spend 2 mins finding whos pinging
Atreea#2307: and come back to me dead
steamypotato#5293: Sorry bout that
Atreea#2307: i dont blame u i blame discord shite notif system
Atreea#2307: it doesnt integrate with windows notification properly
steamypotato#5293: Ah, gotcha
Keith.#1048: it's 100% NOT for a 4G modem as there are no spare antenna wires |
Keith.#1048: which leaves it to be a M.2 SSD 2242
Keith.#1048: mSATA is shaped exactly like mPCIe used by older laptop WiFi cards
Keith.#1048: Left to right:
WiFi card, laptop modem, mSATA SSD https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/923521850154295306/PXL_20211223_102444995.jpg
Keith.#1048: NGFF (M.2) laptop WiFi card https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/923521880428785695/PXL_20211223_102508497.jpg
JustinXenyx#8854: NGFF = M.2
JustinXenyx#8854: Same thing, different naming
Keith.#1048: well yeah but still NGFF, there are slimmer laptop cards
Keith.#1048: my bad it is the same thing 😓
SniperulTF2ist#5685: i know i wanted to buy an adaptor to a pcie slot
SniperulTF2ist#5685: to get a cheap gpu
SniperulTF2ist#5685: and ditch the 950m
JustinXenyx#8854: That stuff isn't really worth it
JustinXenyx#8854: You'd be better off building a used PC with Haswell or Skylake parts instead of trying to rig up a laptop for eGPUs
SniperulTF2ist#5685: that was i thinking a couple of years back |
Keith.#1048: ehh Skylake has dropped low enough one can easily grab parts and run
Keith.#1048: explains why i got my stuff for this cheap
JustinXenyx#8854: Motherboards are kinda iffy for the more high end stuff but yeah you can get some cheap Skylake prebuilts now
Keith.#1048: i paid around 80 for a decent 1151v1 board and 16GB DDR4
Keith.#1048: CPU cost me 45 with different crappy board and 2x4GB DDR4
Keith.#1048: otherwise i would've had to pay 70 for a board alone
JustinXenyx#8854: I've been looking to repurpose a i7 6700 i've got around but any motherboard that isn't your low end H110 with only 2 RAM slots is way too pricy to justify imo
Keith.#1048: guess i just got lucky then
Keith.#1048: the board i paid for is a ASRock H170M Pro4
Keith.#1048: best part is that the VRMs are actually capable so the 117 euro laptop chip mod will be awesome once i can buy it
steamypotato#5293: Alrighty, bought a M.2 SSD. Hopefully it'll work cause booting android x86 using a USB as a hard drive is janky and annoying xD
Keith.#1048: lmao
Keith.#1048: well hope you got the correct size
steamypotato#5293: I think so. There's so many types of SSD
steamypotato#5293: I thought it was just nvme, 2.5 inch SSD, and hard drive xD |
Keith.#1048: it has to be 2242 in size
Keith.#1048: and iirc that laptop does not support NVMe
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: What's the model of the laptop?
Keith.#1048: Thinkpad Yoga 12
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Oh I remember now
Keith.#1048: Broadwell boy
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: 5th so NVME kinda far-fetched
Jazzzny#6861: you couldddd mod the UEFI firmware and add the NVME module
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @Jazzzny No doubt the geniuses at WinRaid might have figured that out
Zirax#2873: How does msata and mpcie work and why is a slot sometimes compatible with both
JustinXenyx#8854: TL:DR mSATA and mPCIe are SATA and/or PCIe in a custom slot
JustinXenyx#8854: Nothing super fancy about it
JustinXenyx#8854: It's the same idea as m.2 where a slot can be either SATA or PCIe
Zirax#2873: So how is that handled?
Zirax#2873: Like |
Zirax#2873: Idk
JustinXenyx#8854: It probably is able to tell through the pinout, but i haven't really looked into it
Keith.#1048: M.2 drives have a keying
Perdus#3993: Building my old pc https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/924390202158493756/1485A417-C757-4F12-AFAA-7BD6883E7E38.jpg
Perdus#3993: Core2 Quad Q9650
4GB DDR3
Radeon 4890
Zirax#2873: Yes but like some slots can do both sata and pcie as well
Zirax#2873: Same deal there
Keith.#1048: The keying tells what drive is what, controller sees if one or another is installed on post
Zirax#2873: So like
Zirax#2873: These slots are handled by additional controllers?
Zirax#2873: And not run directly off of cpu io?
Keith.#1048: Well you need logic for anything like that?
Keith.#1048: There's this cool thing called a IO controller |
Hikari🌙 ルシア#3680: woman on card
Perdus#3993: somehow,a driver for a 4870 exists on windows 10
DarknessFalls229#2286: you mean the driver that just works from windows 7 til windows 10 or a driver _specifically_ for windows 10?
Perdus#3993: i dont know,didnt have to search it up manually
Dogecode#7321: through windows update?
Jazzzny#6861: the windows 10 driver is a crappy repackage of the 13.9 driver from 2013
Perdus#3993: nope,it just came with the install,install was fresh
Perdus#3993: Upper one is a Asus P5GC-MX/1333
Down one is a Asus P5P800VM https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/924793204644122634/IMG_0187.jpg
Dogecode#7321: those are old ones
theyll be locked to pentium 4 and D for sure
Perdus#3993: P5GC-mX/1333 has a core2 duo e7300,4GB DDR2
dexsters56#4904: Hello everyone, anyone know where i could download drivers for my laptop (hp probook 4530s)??
dexsters56#4904: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/925032427011837982/unknown.png
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: The HP website doesn't have drivers for you? |
dexsters56#4904: i went onto a hp support site and with the links other people left dont work or dont exist anymore
D.D.M#8226: Did you try windows update?
D.D.M#8226: Most of the time windows finds all the drivers for older systems
dexsters56#4904: tried nithing. found a site anf got the drivers
D.D.M#8226: Odd
D.D.M#8226: And you sure hp doesn't have em?
dexsters56#4904: i dont know, the support pages had broken links but this site had all of the ones i needed
dexsters56#4904: http://aiydriver.blogspot.com/2016/01/hp-probook-4530s-drivers-download.html#.YcnX5mhBzIW
dexsters56#4904: now all devices have drivers
D.D.M#8226: @dexsters56 here
D.D.M#8226: https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/hp-probook-4530s-notebook-pc/5060880
D.D.M#8226: There are win 8.1 drivers
D.D.M#8226: But should still work in 10
dexsters56#4904: Thanks
D.D.M#8226: But only download the ones windows cant |
D.D.M#8226: Cus most of look out of date
Dogecode#7321: sus
zwect#1210: can someone recommend the most durable nvme's?
zwect#1210: ones that have a good price atleast
zwect#1210: i don't mind speed
zwect#1210: i used to live with 500mb/s
Keith.#1048: Reliability costs extra
Keith.#1048: Can't go wrong with Sabrent Rocket or EVO
The Tired Technician#8073: I just replaced the CPU in my laptop from a dual core to a quad core. Athlon ii P340 to a Phenom ii N930. And thats a 25w chip to a 35w chip. Even just having YouTube open it spikes to like 80 degrees
The Tired Technician#8073: She runs a Lil toasty now
The Tired Technician#8073: But at least I have a "usable" CPU now
The Tired Technician#8073: Linux seems happy with it anyways
primo007#7071: the completely trustworthy FRED power supply https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/925269176233386014/unknown.png
primo007#7071: it even still has the old AT style power connectors :Xdxdxd:
Mr365truck#5705: jesus |
Mr365truck#5705: thats more sketch than one budget finds in a trash can
primo007#7071: surprisingly the seller still has 100% positive feedback
Grockle#7163: Suspect
primo007#7071: though i guess if you need one of those old ones with the at connectors and integrated power button its a option.
Mr365truck#5705: the last option
primo007#7071: he also sells outlets on a rack-mountable stick https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/925272185260625980/unknown.png
primo007#7071: for the same price as a proper rack power strip
Dogecode#7321: :Hahahahaha:
Mr365truck#5705: how can i run 2 different gpus with drivers for each one? specifically a 2080 ti and a quadro k600
Gamefreak924#5901: How many memory slots can a third generation i5 mobile cpu use? Trying to upgrade the memory in my work computer and my boss says dual core i5s can only use two slots of memory max. Is this true?
Gamefreak924#5901: Having a rough time because when I put a third stick in, the computer can turn on but then shuts off on a blank screen
inactive#2783: How do I go about storing PGA processors for which I don't have the original packaging for?
inactive#2783: It only have two memory channels but I'm not reading of a limit on the number of DIMMs, you may or may not need a BIOS update
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I am assuming it's a workstation type laptop with 4 RAM slots
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: So it should be supported from the get-go |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: But it might also be a limitation of the i5
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Most laptops I have seen with that config usually comes with an i7 or Xeon at the very least
Dogecode#7321: i had one with 4 slots, but each pair of modules had to be identical sticks or I didn’t get a post
Dogecode#7321: that was a core 2 duo laptop though
Dogecode#7321: had to take apart the laptop to get to the other slots so I could switch the memory around :FeelsBadMan:
Dogecode#7321: having 4 slots is nice cause you can use 2gb modules to get it to 8gb ram, which is a lot less expensive and more common
Dogecode#7321: i had and still have a bunch of them lying around
Perdus#3993: My old laptop had 4 RAM slots
Perdus#3993: Lenovo ThinkPad W510
i7-820QM,4x2GB sticks,Nvidia Quadro FX880m
Perdus#3993: Used it until november started
Perdus#3993: So i want to upgrade my cpu,I currently have a i3-3240 and i wanna put in a i5-2500k
Should i do it?
Im really on a tight budget
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: What kind of motherboard do you have? Basic H61? |
inactive#2783: Is there any way to make it so my 3900x will idle at a lower frequency?
If I do the slightest thing on the system it'll ramp up to 4.3GHz @ ~1.4v for a little bit which increases idle temps to 60-70c
If I stick it on a lower frequency/voltage like 3.5GHz @ 1.125v then it'll stay cool but then it won't ever ramp down and will stay at 3.5GHz forever
Perdus#3993: Asus P8H61
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: You could put a 2500K in there but don't expect any kind of overclocking
Perdus#3993: Havent overclocked since my pentium 4 dqys
JustinXenyx#8854: Nope, not true at all
JustinXenyx#8854: Not a whole lot of laptops come with more than 2 RAM slots tbf, but even a basic ass mobile Ivy i5 can use up to 4 RAM slots at a time
JustinXenyx#8854: Save the money and go for a Xeon E3 1230 instead if you have a dedicated GPU
JustinXenyx#8854: The E3 1230 is pretty much a i7 2600 with the iGPU cut off for the price of a i5
Gamefreak924#5901: So then why is painnn
The Tired Technician#8073: I do it with VMware. Cuz if I dont I usually run into the infamous code 43.
The Tired Technician#8073: windows really doesnt like two different kinds of cards with two different drivers in any given system at once
Mr365truck#5705: I had it working with older drivers for some reason
Mr365truck#5705: But when I tried it with the most recent it stopped working |
Mr365truck#5705: Honestly just wanted the novelty, my cpu has an igpu so I can just use that for dvi
Gamefreak924#5901: Is there anything that would cause an issue where Windows will set the date to the year 8,521 upon installation all of a sudden?
Gamefreak924#5901: And then basically crash
The Tired Technician#8073: aight boys, I got a socket 939 motherboard. What CPU should I stick in it? Opteron 185 or Athlon 64 X2 4800+ (2.6ghz and 2.4ghz respectively)
The Tired Technician#8073: both are dual cores. Since quad cores really arnt on that platform.
Perdus#3993: which one is cheaper
Perdus#3993: probs that athlon
Perdus#3993: i would go with the athlon
Aeg?#8228: how do i remove windows boot manager? I switched to ssd and installed new windows. My hdd has a windows boot manager and couldnt find an answer to remove it
Muse#0557: formatting?
Muse#0557: atleast that's what my monkey brain would do for good measure
Aeg?#8228: Yeah already formatted the partition in hdd that had windows but its still there for some reason
Muse#0557: Formatted in the bios?
Muse#0557: And deleted the partition made for boot manager?
Aeg?#8228: i can format bios? |
Aeg?#8228: problem is i dunno what partition the boot manager is
Aeg?#8228: I'll check it out later
JustinXenyx#8854: Using 2 cards which are that far apart won't really work well in Windows
JustinXenyx#8854: If i wanted to use a 3080 with a 1030 that would still work as both cards run off the same driver, but NVIDIA *really* doesn't like driver mismatching from my experience
Mr365truck#5705: I had it working with old drivers from when I first got my 2080ti, doesn’t seem to work with the newest drivers
Mr365truck#5705: Tbh because I’m just doing it for a dvi port I’m just using my igpu
HelloMumble#0788: To all the owners of a tech store: How do you deal with diagnostics?
Keith.#1048: By diagnosing stuff
Keith.#1048: Diagnose what's wrong, let the customer know what's the issue and work on from there
Keith.#1048: Of course a customer will be tech illiterate so you must keep it simple like "it very bad stone it no roll"
HelloMumble#0788: @Keith. Right of course. But my question is do you do the diagnosis on the spot or you tell them to comeback later?
Keith.#1048: Really depends on the severity of issue
Keith.#1048: If they come in with a bland answer like "it doesn't work" you tell them to wait like 10 minutes and if issue is worse you tell them to come back later
HelloMumble#0788: Alright, well I thought it would be better to tell "come back" later just to diagnose it as much as possible.
Dogecode#7321: maybe just a case by case thing |
Keith.#1048: Probably the best choice yeah
Keith.#1048: I don't own a computer shop per se but I do lots of IT for everyone close
Keith.#1048: Sometimes they drive to my house just to have me fix something
Dogecode#7321: i should start doing repairs for money
Dogecode#7321: But that raises many questions
how much should I charge? what if I can’t fix it or I make the problem worse :FeelsBadMan:
Dogecode#7321: eh im just overthinking it
Dogecode#7321: but it is more responsibility than just screwing around with your own stuff
Keith.#1048: Start small by investing into some proper tools like iFixit toolkit and few prying tools
Dogecode#7321: i want to get the ifixit toolkit
Keith.#1048: Offer simple cleaning services which includes reinstallation of Windows, data backup etc
Keith.#1048: I started by flipping laptops and phones early on, was way easier back then too
Keith.#1048: From there I invested into some better tools, knowledge and such to really build up skill and started offering repairs
Dogecode#7321: what site did you use to do that
Keith.#1048: Facebook marketplace and two others that are local |
Dogecode#7321: i tried putting some stuff up on craigslist but I didn’t get any activity whatsoever for months, even with reposting it every week
Dogecode#7321: what activity there is is usually just scammers or lowballers :Hahahahaha:
Keith.#1048: Yeah that's just the life of used market
Alcyone#2233: I never made any money selling local. What I do is buy partial and whole PC local then part them out on ebay
steamypotato#5293: It ended up being an m.2 sata slot, got an SSD and the laptop is working with win 10. Only problem is that the screen seems to have burn in
kotr#5588: B365M-A
kotr#5588: 32 GB @ 2666
9900K
RTX 2080 (MSI GAMING X)
kotr#5588: @Charlie Foxtrot
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: PSU?
kotr#5588: RM 850X
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Also has this been a recent or an old issue?
kotr#5588: old issue
kotr#5588: or am i just now noticing it |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Reinstalling drivers, Windows, etc... doesn't help?
kotr#5588: yep
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: The only thing I am noticing is the RAM
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: 32GB @ 2666Mhz
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Dual channel?
kotr#5588: it's complicated
kotr#5588: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/926392456348577832/unknown.png
3f345#6428: triple channel
Dogecode#7321: single channel :Hahahahaha:
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: That 16GB is definitely single for sure
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Has to contend with the 8GB twins
kotr#5588: you think this is causing it?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Anyway
3f345#6428: try taking it out
3f345#6428: might fix |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Most motherboards have an order in which you install the RAMs
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Usually color coded
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: For best perf
kotr#5588: this board doesn't
kotr#5588: shit b365m
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I don't think it should be impacting this much
kotr#5588: ig
kotr#5588: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/926393781887041576/unknown.png
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: This board is surprisingly bad
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Like really bad
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I wouldn't trust this thing with a 8700K much less 9900K
kotr#5588: you think the board is causing this? cause i sure as hell do LOL
kotr#5588: or even a 9400f
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: The 9900K could be power throttled for sure
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Do you have MSI Afterburner? |
kotr#5588: I can't find any boards that will fit into my case on amazon
kotr#5588: ye
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It will provide more info than NoVideo's overlay
kotr#5588: I've set a proper fan curve, etc
kotr#5588: i forgot to install rivatuner
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: So 3 things I want you to do
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: 1. Get that 16GB stick off and run games again
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: 2. Reinstall Afterburner with Rivatuner and enable settings for observing TDP and clock speed
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: 3. Consider a new board
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: (also check for BIOS updates and settings)
kotr#5588: yeah it's gotta be a cpu tdp issue
kotr#5588: i want to get a new board but i dont know what can fit in my corsair crystal 280x
kotr#5588: it's microatx sadly
boog#9487: My laptop is having whatever these grey/white stripes appear https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/926493014271094784/20211230_153012.mp4
boog#9487: Ive updated drivers with no luck |
boog#9487: I also updated windows with no luck
boog#9487: I also tried doing a fresh install of GPU drivers but no luck
boog#9487: It's a gigabyte aero 15 oled, with a rtx 3060, i7 11800h, 16gb ram
Postal#0001: @boog does it happen if you disable the GPU in device manager
Postal#0001: so you force it to run on the IGPU
boog#9487: I'll try that
boog#9487: Seems to start happening when I launch a GPU intensive application such as a game
boog#9487: But continues once I exit the game
Postal#0001: i mean if you are still in your warranty perioud
Postal#0001: i'd send it back
boog#9487: I already opened a rma request
inactive#2783: If it's a newer computer then that's a UEFI entry
sygys#7655: my pc just gave me the biggest scare
sygys#7655: I plugged in my second monitor and got error 43 on my gpu
sygys#7655: luckily a reboot fixed it |
Razorsz#5056: mmm me suspect funky cable
TrixiVR#0001: Will a steam gift take longer to receive if the steam store is broken?
I need this question answered.
D.D.M#8226: No
D.D.M#8226: I think
D.D.M#8226: You gotta ask steam about that
D.D.M#8226: If you wanna be sure
JustinXenyx#8854: If you "need" this question answered you should ask Steam Support instead of people helping out in their free time
sygys#7655: I have a weird anomaly happening
sygys#7655: One game uses 40-50% of the GPU yet my temps go up to 80 degrees (I know I should change the thermal paste already), yet in a different one that uses 60-70% I get 75 degrees max
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I think of a few things: monitored usage isn't always actual usage, and the game actually puts more load on the GPU; or the game is CPU-intensive, and since the CPU and GPU share the same cooler the heat from the former is offloaded to the latter
sygys#7655: I'm not using an APU so they can't be using the same cooler
sygys#7655: Well i doubt Crab Game is more intensive than FIFA 22, idk might be unoptimized?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Probably
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Also I somehow thought you use a laptop lol |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: The second reason is more for laptops
sygys#7655: I see
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Because they have 1 cooling system for both CPU and GPU with shared heatpipes
Scav Rat#6490: could be tv?
steamypotato#5293: I need Chromebook help. I'm trying to disable write protection and I keep getting this error https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/927510046936531024/PXL_20220103_103055668.jpg
steamypotato#5293: I already put it into dev mod successfully so idk what's wrong
Lady Mipha#0611: Could be that it has a hardware write protect
steamypotato#5293: I pulled the board and looked for a switch but I didn't see one. None of the screws are labeled write protect.
steamypotato#5293: There is a strange unlabeled button on the board tho
Lady Mipha#0611: What model of Chromebook is this
steamypotato#5293: Samsung 550c
steamypotato#5293: Xe550c22 is the full model number
boog#9487: It's happening on the built in monitor on the laptop
boog#9487: Doesn't happen on a external monitor
Dogecode#7321: what happens if you press it |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Huh, my laptop has the same problem, weird screen flashes and artifacts but connected to an external monitor it runs fine
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Even weirder
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: When I hook it up and use dual screen mode
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: There are no artifacts
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: As soon as I unplug it
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It has issues
boog#9487: Funky
Judith#4404: Could be a problem with the mux switch if your laptops have one
steamypotato#5293: Nothing I can tell
LiquidCooledListerine#8774: I have an 9600M GT that shows kind of artifacts and then crashes… Could it be that the card is dying? Or is it just overheating?
ParadigitalsOldPC#3208: After how long does the artifacting manifest itself? Also are we talking random sparklies over a 3D rendered image or are we talking repeating patterns (vertical lines or checkerboarding) with random garbage characters in the BIOS? If it’s the latter then it’ll be failing video memory. If it’s the former then it’ll either be temperature or voltage related on the GPU core.
Bug#9150: Hey guys. I am a pc nerd in a sense but trying to unlock the Bitlocked disk is hard. I forgot to unlock it on my old windows 10 copy. had to new install because of some issues and now i cant like unlock it. anyone dealt with a similiar issue before ? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/928004554459590706/unknown.png
LiquidCooledListerine#8774: 1 minute until the GPU crashes and gives me a BSOD, and it has the sparklies in any 3D rendered image
LiquidCooledListerine#8774: And also has occasional vertical lines
HelloMumble#0788: Hey guys, what is the best thermal paste I could get in big quantity? |
Keith.#1048: MX4 20g tube?
Mr365truck#5705: Nvidia calling the 3050 affordable is funny
Mr365truck#5705: More than double the price a 1050 was
Mr365truck#5705: Not to mention them calling the 1050 unusable for 60fps gaming in 2022
Mr365truck#5705: Not to mention this complete lie https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/928049854662463488/IMG_4638.png
Bug#9150: 3050 affordable ? 3050 ti would be a better option
Bug#9150: like 3050 is like a joke at this point after theyve anounced the 2050
D.D.M#8226: These line ups just dont make sense no more
D.D.M#8226: Shady asf tactics
D.D.M#8226: Guardians of the galaxy runs on a 1050
D.D.M#8226: It isnt pleasent but it runs from what ive seen
primo007#7071: Does anybody know of any good, cheap, low profile LGA1155 coolers?
D.D.M#8226: I know Deep Cool make decent coolers that are compatible with 1155
Mr365truck#5705: they try to market it as affordable, yeah
Racey#8574: iirc most coolers for modern Intel chipsets are backwards compatible |
Racey#8574: Unless that changed
JustinXenyx#8854: The 2050 does not exist as a desktop card
JustinXenyx#8854: 2050 is mobile-only
Bug#9150: Ik
Mr365truck#5705: You can’t really compare the 3050 to the 2050
lsadf#6396: whats the msrp of the 3050?
lsadf#6396: nvm
bence#1211: Like $250 from memory
Mr365truck#5705: $249 usd
lsadf#6396: damn
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: But you can bet the scalpers, miners and even NVIDIA themselves will blow it up like a balloon
CyberPunk#8897: 3050Ti is somewhat close to a 1660Ti, isn’t it?
D.D.M#8226: memory bus from what ive seen is only 128
D.D.M#8226: bit
D.D.M#8226: while the 1660 ti has 192bit |
D.D.M#8226: and i think it doesnt have as many cores
CyberPunk#8897: what’s the point then?
D.D.M#8226: money
D.D.M#8226: :Hahahahaha:
CyberPunk#8897: also, hello fellow 1660Ti user
D.D.M#8226: 1660 ti mobile user
D.D.M#8226: but still
CyberPunk#8897: gross.
D.D.M#8226: roughly same poer
D.D.M#8226: power
CyberPunk#8897: i mean, i managed to get one at somewhat MSRP, before it went to shit
DarknessFalls229#2286: the GTX 770 has the same amount of cuda cores as the GTX 1660ti and a higher bus bandwidth than it. Thus the GTX 770 is faster than the GTX 1660ti
D.D.M#8226: lol
CyberPunk#8897: does that mean the GTX 770 outperforms a 1070 👀
DarknessFalls229#2286: dont forget the damn generational improvements |
D.D.M#8226: https://tenor.com/view/maybe-heavy-tf2-uncertain-gif-19368937
CyberPunk#8897: i just want a damn 3070Ti :/
CyberPunk#8897: i saw one at MSRP, but kinda spaffed my money else where a day before
D.D.M#8226: ive seen many people agree that prices should drop by 2022
D.D.M#8226: but then companies raised the msrp of the cards
Dogecode#7321: :crome:
CyberPunk#8897: scumbags.
CyberPunk#8897: you poor soul…
Dogecode#7321: i have a 1660 ti in my main system
Dogecode#7321: the specs in my name are my laptop specs
CyberPunk#8897: you don’t deserve this then.
Dogecode#7321: 💀
CyberPunk#8897: 1660Ti gang though
Dogecode#7321: ye
Dogecode#7321: it struggles in halo infinite ngl |
Dogecode#7321: at 1440p
Dogecode#7321: 95hz
CyberPunk#8897: meh, mine struggled with VR
Dogecode#7321: which I guess it’s getting to be more of a 1080p card
CyberPunk#8897: i was going to treat myself to a 120hz OLED 48” for a monitor, but the 1660Ti doesn’t support HDMI 2.1, so no 4K@120 :/
Dogecode#7321: probably wouldn’t run well at that resolution anyway
CyberPunk#8897: yeah, it’s a brilliant card. just not the best for heavy users. does what i need, has done for a year. i’ll replace it in a few years
CyberPunk#8897: exactly
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: No DP support?
Dogecode#7321: i got mine back in 2019
CyberPunk#8897: i can run FH5 at 1440p ultra everything and watch netflix on the other monitor with no issues (overclocked card)
CyberPunk#8897: it does, but the TV doesn’t have DP
CyberPunk#8897: so for a good price then
Dogecode#7321: ye
funny that now they’re going for more than they were then |
CyberPunk#8897: 1660Ti has 3 display ports, 1 HDMI
CyberPunk#8897: £500 now, which is mad
Dogecode#7321: i could literally sell it now and probably make like $100 or $200 profit
Dogecode#7321: but then id be stuck with nothing but a gtx 570 for god knows how long
CyberPunk#8897: exactly, i was going to do that but didn’t want to risk not having a gpu
CyberPunk#8897: or if i went to CeX, i’d break even.
Dogecode#7321: :Hahahahaha:
D.D.M#8226: then dont use a tv
D.D.M#8226: or
D.D.M#8226: get an hdmi to dp adapter
CyberPunk#8897: would that do 4k@120?
D.D.M#8226: actually no
D.D.M#8226: cus the card cant
D.D.M#8226: in hdmi
CyberPunk#8897: display port to hdmi? |
D.D.M#8226: or that
CyberPunk#8897: i’ll see what happens with the Samsung G8 monitor which looks promising
D.D.M#8226: aight
D.D.M#8226: gl
CyberPunk#8897: it’d be like, £1000 won’t it? no point
Bug#9150: Funny how Nvidia plans to release desktop rtx 3050 GPUs and mine is 3050 ti. Those desktop ones have 6gb vram. Poor me
Gamefreak924#5901: Anyone want a first gen i5?
Gamefreak924#5901: I sell for kabillion dollar, low price
DarknessFalls229#2286: only if its the i5 655k
Gamefreak924#5901: What's special about that?
D.D.M#8226: how much?
Gamefreak924#5901: I think it's the i5-650 or i5-750 I have. I'll check when I get home. 20 doubloons? I dunno lol
Gamefreak924#5901: I think it's 750
Racey#8574: I have an i5-650 lol
The United States Air Force#7904: Lol |
ThisAccountIsHack#6296: I got a Core i5 10400F
Gamefreak924#5901: F
CyberPunk#8897: U
LiquidCooledListerine#8774: C
bence#1211: H
Gamefreak924#5901: S
The United States Air Force#7904: K
LiquidCooledListerine#8774: Y
bence#1211: Someone doesnt seem to know how you spell Fuchsia
CyberPunk#8897: O
LiquidCooledListerine#8774: M
Lady Mipha#0611: U
LiquidCooledListerine#8774: M
Kiavo#5385: Tech
LiquidCooledListerine#8774: oh yeah |
LolBroek#5470: Great when you are trying to update your version of .net from 3.5 to 4.0 and it doesn't work EDIT: i got it installed.
Perdus#3993: Got my first macbook,its late 2007 with a 160gb hdd,first time upgrading the mac and using macOS
Perdus#3993: isnt really bad or slow at these specs
NecroFlex#9105: my luck, the 32gb pair of ram failed on me, sent it to warranty, have to now use some random 16gb pair of the most basic 2133 ram...on ryzen, god it's painful, i can feel the difference, worst part is, no matter how much i try, they don't want to OC at all, i upped the timings and voltage and put it on 2400mhz...it just doesn't want to boot, this ram is defective 😂
CyberPunk#8897: i just have 16GB if Corsair Vengeance Pro, can’t overclock that either.
NecroFlex#9105: that's already OCed by default
NecroFlex#9105: mine is barebone the shittiest shit of 2133
CyberPunk#8897: i know, but i can’t do anything else, or it’ll just crash
CyberPunk#8897: even though mine is overclocked, it’s rated for 4000mhz, i haven’t tried much, apart from trying to adjust the clock speed
Perdus#3993: i need help around using macbooks
Perdus#3993: i got a late 2007 macbook that works perfectly normal
Perdus#3993: the thing is that annoys me that it wont load some websites properly
Perdus#3993: not only on safari,but also on chrome
Perdus#3993: anybody know how to fix this?
Dogecode#7321: install gentoo |
Dogecode#7321: no really
Dogecode#7321: you need linux to get a modern os onto it so you can use an updated browser
Perdus#3993: latest chrome browser is installed
Perdus#3993: ive tried windows 10 also on this mac,and it works perfectly fine tho
Gamefreak924#5901: People please purchase my garbage :) price is whever
Gamefreak924#5901: Pentium 4 SL7PU, some AMD Athlon processor, Intel T3400
Gamefreak924#5901: I guess I sold my first gen i5 to someone and I forgot xdddd
Gamefreak924#5901: I also have old RAM- desktop and laptop
D.D.M#8226: Would love to though "cough" third world country moment "cough"
Bug#9150: garbage not really. for their time they were good ig but comparing things is never good. you eventually always will need older hardware
Bug#9150: you cant run older systems on 11th gen intel like in my case. not even trough virtual machine
Bug#9150: so your limited to windows 10 and 11 or linux.
Perdus#3993: i can relate with u
Perdus#3993: im selling a old ass netbook that i dont want to see anymore in my house,specs are typical(Atom N2600,4GB DDR3,Intel GMA,250GB HDD)
JustinXenyx#8854: Use a different OS than MacOS |
Perdus#3993: dont really wanna do that
Perdus#3993: Im trying to learn about macOS
JustinXenyx#8854: Picking an older Macbook isn't really the smartest choice then
JustinXenyx#8854: Browsers and apps aren't maintained for older versions of MacOS, they get dropped fairly quickly
JustinXenyx#8854: @Perdus What macOS version does your laptop run specifically?
Perdus#3993: Its El Capitan
Perdus#3993: how to take screenshots on a mac
Alcyone#2233: Mac El Capitan :Noo:
GT4 El Capitan :Yessi:
Perdus#3993: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/929527723058163722/D9038ACB-9A8A-4F85-A8E8-0D0C2812AF1A.jpg
JustinXenyx#8854: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/78.15.0esr/mac/en-US/ @Perdus This is the last version of Firefox supported by El Capitan
Perdus#3993: thank you very much
Perdus#3993: You helped me a lot my good sir thank u,i fixed my problem
Postal#0001: you should check how many pcie lanes |
Postal#0001: the GPU has got
Postal#0001: since thats got the known flacky 8600M GT
Perdus#3993: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/929531854867026050/ADF34919-F684-475A-BED8-30221FF9770E.jpg
Postal#0001: Oh wow
Postal#0001: still has the full 16
Postal#0001: thats either got the revised 8600M GT in it
Postal#0001: or its barely been used
Perdus#3993: i dont really know,bought it used for arond 45$
Postal#0001: Ah
Postal#0001: i actually had to go and get the GPU replaced in my pre unibody
Postal#0001: as it failed on me
Perdus#3993: its my first time using a mac device
Perdus#3993: i own a a iphone but never a mac
Postal#0001: does it still have a working battery?
Perdus#3993: yes,lasts around 2 hours |
Postal#0001: because they throttle performance a lot with a dead battery
Postal#0001: Well if you ever decided to replace the thermal paste on it, its also a good way to tell if you do have the revised GPU in it
Perdus#3993: i also put in a 240gb ssd in it
Perdus#3993: it does run hot to be honest
Postal#0001: they all do
Postal#0001: ive got the maxed early 2008 variant of it
Postal#0001: it runs toasty
Perdus#3993: i mean,they arent slow
Perdus#3993: i am using it for web browsing and such but yeah
Perdus#3993: it can suffice me
Postal#0001: they have held up well
Postal#0001: they got the best keyboard out of any intel based mac
Perdus#3993: plus they are pretty
Postal#0001: they are
Perdus#3993: i do like the magsafe connector,never even knew the magnet is this strong |
Postal#0001: they can take upto 6gb of ram btw
Postal#0001: but its not really worth it as you loose dual channel memory
Perdus#3993: and theyre pretty easy to work on compared to some other laptops ive worked on,like my old hp pavilion 16
Perdus#3993: i cant even buy 4gb DDR2 sticks here
Perdus#3993: its like they didnt simply exist
Postal#0001: and hopefully yours doesnt have the usual bent case around the DVD drive
Postal#0001: or DVI port
Postal#0001: the aluminium likes to bow out around those areas
Perdus#3993: nope,just some light scratches
Perdus#3993: on the underside and the left side around the usb
Postal#0001: Ah nice
Postal#0001: its been looked after then
Perdus#3993: do they come with bottom feet?
Perdus#3993: mine doesnt have any and it just lays flat on the table
Postal#0001: they do yes |
Perdus#3993: then mine doesnt have any
Gamefreak924#5901: try putting that on eBay, netbooks are pretty cool. Had someone buy an Inspiron 1011 from me for over $100 once.
Emperiex#4912: Hi, it has come to my attention my Corsair h60 is insufficient for my 5900x any recommendations? Looked at the dark rock pro 4 because it’s cheap and has good views but if anyone wants to chime in lmk if there’s better options
Gamefreak924#5901: Can someone help me figure out how to stop my computer from doing this anytime it needs to render anything no matter how small https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/929599124930711572/video.mov
Gamefreak924#5901: Was doing this from some website graphics
Alcyone#2233: That's your fan curve
Alcyone#2233: Set fan hysteresis to 3c or more and then make the ramp less steep
Alcyone#2233: Or just select like a normal/silent profile
Ginger#9969: Has anyone had any experience buying a GPU from StockX?
D.D.M#8226: never heard of StockX oof
D.D.M#8226: probs is as same as any other market
Gamefreak924#5901: "Set fan hysteresis to 3c or more and then make the ramp less steep"
Gamefreak924#5901: I'll do it when you tell me how in a language I can understand
Dragoon_Klasse#5761: can anyone help me with the pcpartpicker list and note me if there is any issue thank you
Dragoon_Klasse#5761: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/2nytxc |
FS-1041#3859: The gpu🥵
FS-1041#3859: That price gave me a stroke
FS-1041#3859: It looks good in my opinion
Bug#9150: Funny how the upcoming rtx 3050 GPU is literally a 3060 ti interms of specs
Bug#9150: Both have 8gb vram
Bug#9150: Other then that it's good
Bug#9150: Only compromise is your CPU won't work properly with windows 10
Bug#9150: So you may have to install windows 11 since the 12th gen was designed for windows 11 in mind
Gamefreak924#5901: Resist Windows 11
Bug#9150: I mean the features aren't supported in windows 10
Bug#9150: The efficienty cores and all that
Keith.#1048: older versions of Windows will report it as a two CPU system
Keith.#1048: Windows 7 was booted on Alder Lake and it says that there are two CPU's using different core design
Bug#9150: Yea
Keith.#1048: i mean sure Windows 10 works fine but you're not getting the kernel improvements to make full use of big.LITTLE type of design |
Bug#9150: Yep
Bug#9150: So i would recommend windows 11 for the full features
Bug#9150: It's essentially windows 10 yk so it wouldnt hurt
Bug#9150: But i wonder if my Tigerlake -H cpu can handle windows 8
Bug#9150: Lol Like i wanna test it
Bug#9150: I don't know if the rtx 3050 ti GPU even has drivers for that
Keith.#1048: it's x86, drivers will be the limiting factor
Keith.#1048: and obviously how the ACPI is handled etc
Bug#9150: Yea
Keith.#1048: ironically my Skylake system cannot run Windows 7 even if i tried
Keith.#1048: 8.1 i can get going fine but why would i when Win11 runs well
Bug#9150: Ye
Gamefreak924#5901: So then
Gamefreak924#5901: Don't use hardware that won't support Windows 10
Gamefreak924#5901: Unless you're a masochist and actually want Windows 11 |
Subsets and Splits
No community queries yet
The top public SQL queries from the community will appear here once available.