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LaeMat#0420: idk about buying the battery now because if I recall my second battery I got delivered from Amazon and it was cold out
LaeMat#0420: could that have affected it
LaeMat#0420: It wasn't *that* cold, but like around 5Β°C
LaeMat#0420: or 10 idk
JustinXenyx#8854: The Nexus 4 is certainly old enough for "new" batteries to come DoA from sitting around in a warehouse for ages
LaeMat#0420: yeah
LaeMat#0420: what do I do
Dogecode#7321: got any friends in the usa :Hahahahaha:
LaeMat#0420: no
LaeMat#0420: Should I just go for another battery on Amazon?
LaeMat#0420: I got no other options
Keith.#1048: I guess so
Muse#0557: New Nintendo 3DS
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: @Tech Helper so uhhh my pc isnt booting , not "not posting" but it isnt turning on in the first place
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its obviously either mobo or psu or case powerbutton
tried shorting power pins so it aint the case
i wanna jump the psu using the paper clip method but i wanna keep it inside the pc connected to my other components is it safe to jump start it while its inside the pc or?
Budget#8265: What PSU? π
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: its not some crappy psu thats for sure , tis a coolermaster mwe v2 650w
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: 80 plus white if thats relvant in any way
DarknessFalls229#2286: i wouldnt jump start it unless its disconnected from the rest of the components
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: bruh u have no idea how long that would take taking consideration the amount of zipties i have
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: so i have no other choice then
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: thanks for the info
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: π this is gonna be fun
DarknessFalls229#2286: nono
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: and worst part is it might be the mobo so disconnecting the psu would do nothing
DarknessFalls229#2286: you can just unplug the CPU and GPU power connectors |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: oh
DarknessFalls229#2286: if you dont wanna undo your zipties
DarknessFalls229#2286: of course, naturally also unplug the 24pin
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: welp yeh how would i jump it
DarknessFalls229#2286: personally would also unplug any drives but those should be fine
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: ~~id prefer to let em die lmao~~
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: why didnt i think of unlplugging em
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: :thinking_peter:
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: smort
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: @DarknessFalls229 welp a smol issue , i cant find any paper clips , would it be wise to use a staple instead? , i feel like its a dumb idea
DarknessFalls229#2286: oh i use staples yeah
DarknessFalls229#2286: just bend it correctly
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: but they are too smol , would they melt?
DarknessFalls229#2286: no?
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: ighttt |
LaeMat#0420: it's about the same as a paperclip
DarknessFalls229#2286: its basicly sending an 'ON' signal
DarknessFalls229#2286: not handling current
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: nah its way smaller that a paper clip
DarknessFalls229#2286: aggressive with the worlds largest paperclips
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: but yeah imma use a staple
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: lets pray i dont short myself smh
DarknessFalls229#2286: that reminds me
DarknessFalls229#2286: a few days ago i learnt that the radiator next to my pc holds and electrical current somtimes
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: @DarknessFalls229 just to be a billion percent sure , im gonna look it up and ask u too , just triple checking https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/913417328094498946/unknown.png
DarknessFalls229#2286: looks fine i think
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: thats not me
DarknessFalls229#2286: shorting green with the black wire towards the middle
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: wym towards the middle?
DarknessFalls229#2286: the black ground wire next to the green wire, that is the closest to the middle |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: oh as in order
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: yeh yeh
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: @DarknessFalls229 this seem right? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/913418808549593139/IMG_20211125_151920_186.jpg
DarknessFalls229#2286: i think so
Lady Mipha#0611: Yup that's correct
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: so the psu works
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: so its probably my mobo
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: dammit
Muse#0557: Reseat cpu
DarknessFalls229#2286: reset CMOS
Muse#0557: I would of resat the cpu long before jumping a psu
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: my mobo posted before with no cpu installed at all , idk are u sure?
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: like not posted
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: like
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: booted up |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: fan spin
Muse#0557: It's worth a try
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: that would be very weird if it worked but worth a shot
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: yeh
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: imma do that later cause cant be arsed to remove the hard to screw spring screws on the stock ryzen cooler
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: but imma do the cmos reset rn
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: nope
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: imma do the reseat later , will update u if it worked !
Alcyone#2233: Did the psu work?
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Alcyone yes
Alcyone#2233: If the psu is working but the board won't start try with 24 pin in and eps cable disconnected. If it lights up and fans turn on. Power delivery probably has a short
BokeeXD#9210: it is the green and any of the black ones
BokeeXD#9210: if you have all wires in same color, i dont care
unique+#9658: May i ask are dualbooting windows and linux is same instalation like dualbooting windows?
Dogecode#7321: linux and windows are easy to dual boot |
Install windows first
Then Linux should give you the option when you go to install it to install alongside windows, at least ubuntu does
You get to pick how much storage to allocate to each os
Then the install should do the rest I think, although ive never tried it
When you're done you get a nice GRUB menu every time you boot where you can select if you want to boot into windows or Linux
JimmyJoogleNugget#4633: internet cafe on my hometown dual boot windows 7 and 10
JustinXenyx#8854: Not really, Windows doesn't particularly like dualbooting with Linux and it can cause some issues with the Linux install
Gamefreak924#5901: Is there a way to change the look and feel of Windows 10 back to how it was in an older build? Example: changing the start menu back to not be detached when searching for something?
Gamefreak924#5901: also changing it to not be white without changing the color of the Start and toolbar icons
Gamefreak924#5901: I want it like this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/913606803298852864/windows.png
Gamefreak924#5901: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/913606955254292560/Screenshot_10.png
Gamefreak924#5901: not this mess
Kyle's Digital Lab#0001: Should I keep my Haswell PC or build a new one
It has a Gigabyte Z97 motherboard with an i5-4690K, 32GB RAM, and a GTX 1060, if I keep it I will upgrade to a i7-4790K |
Kyle's Digital Lab#0001: I plan on doing light gaming but lots of video editing with Premiere, nothing 4K or 8K, just 1080p 60fps video
The Tired Technician#8073: Anyone know where I can get ahold of budget where I wont be breaking any rules? I happened to have a Pentium 4 2.0ghz socket 423 CPU
The Tired Technician#8073: And Id be willing to give it to him
The Tired Technician#8073: I also have 2 1.4ghz P4s, and one of the 1.3s, the slowest chip for that socket.
The Tired Technician#8073: Tons of chips in this box of mine. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/913643630613368872/20211122_175555.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/913643631133470760/20211122_175705.jpg
Funtimesgetfunner#8807: Anyone happen to use zerottier to get a direct connection instead of a relay?
Funtimesgetfunner#8807: Or is cgnat the cause so no fix
D.D.M#8226: Why sell it bruh
D.D.M#8226: Thats a still very capable build
D.D.M#8226: And for 1080p 60 it'll do fine
D.D.M#8226: Not as good as a ryzen but still decent
D.D.M#8226: But for upgrading it to an i7 eh
D.D.M#8226: Atleast here the prices are wack for 4th gen
D.D.M#8226: Dm him?
D.D.M#8226: It aint against the rules i think |
BokeeXD#9210: my start menu looks liek this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/913731214324670515/unknown.png
BokeeXD#9210: keep
Keith.#1048: sell if you can afford an upgrade, otherwise keep as is
BokeeXD#9210: i have i5 3550 with 12gb ram and a radeon hd 7850
BokeeXD#9210: does my job preety well
BokeeXD#9210: i was able to get windows 2000 on it lol
BokeeXD#9210: took me forever to get ethernet driver working
BokeeXD#9210: but at the end everything worked
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Gamefreak924 maybe something like translucentTB helps with the colours. Dunno if you can fix the detached search window
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: @Muse reseat didnt work :P
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: bet !
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: nope , didnt work :P
JustinXenyx#8854: You should see how your current system handles video editing, going from a 4690K to a 4790K isn't an enormous jump
TheMintyFresh#2598: Sup folks, got a gaming laptop I'm trying to get working. If I can't get it working I don't know if anyone will be interested in buying it if that's allowed on this server?
TheMintyFresh#2598: It's a hefty 17.3 laptop with mxm card and removable cpu etc |
Dogecode#7321: $3, take it or leave it
TheMintyFresh#2598: $4, I know what I've got π€
Keith.#1048: we don't
TheMintyFresh#2598: True sorry, trying to put linux on it now
TheMintyFresh#2598: Basically it's a clevo p170sm laptop
Keith.#1048: goddamn Haswell :drool:
TheMintyFresh#2598: I7 4710mq, 24gb ram, 480gb ssd, 970m 6gb and is blue screening
Keith.#1048: any specific errors?
TheMintyFresh#2598: It's confusing though because the blue screen relates to a gpu but I've had it working at points then the whole system halts
TheMintyFresh#2598: Done fresh installs of Windows 7 and Windows 10
Keith.#1048: yeah the card has to be cooked then
Keith.#1048: does it happen without GPU drivers too?
TheMintyFresh#2598: Without drivers it seems okay
TheMintyFresh#2598: Ish
TheMintyFresh#2598: Tried rolling back drivers to no avail |
Keith.#1048: i *might* be interested but pretty sure it would cost me a lot
TheMintyFresh#2598: I'm not sure if it's anything to do with the bios and gpu conflicting with each other because I've read a few reports about poorly written bios for sager/clevo/pcspecialist laptops
TheMintyFresh#2598: If I can't get it fixed by Sunday I'll happily sell it to anyone for Β£150 haha
DarknessFalls229#2286: UKnian i assume?
TheMintyFresh#2598: Indeed *sips tea*
Scav Rat#6490: hes often online catch him when hes on one of the chats and reply to one of his messages asking if hes interested i can imagine he will pm you
The Tired Technician#8073: Kay, thanks
The Tired Technician#8073: Im an American, and probably wont be up most times hes up, but ill try to catch him.
Scav Rat#6490: eh generally anytime before 8pm uk which is 12pm cali time
The Tired Technician#8073: Alright, thanks for the info.
Tinybox#9112: So I noticed something
Tinybox#9112: REALLY FUNKY
Tinybox#9112: ,, so on my laptop, a clevo p150sm with an upgraded m4000m...,
I noticed that the memory lcock isn't 1253mhz but is ACTUALLY READING WAY MORE, 2505mhz.
((I also noticed I can freely adjust the GPU CLOCK but not the memory clock...) The core clock is what I expect... |
Tinybox#9112: I know its stable since it ran multiple hours of heaven, (funnily enough there are stutters when the mem clock randomly drops down to 1600mhz).
Tinybox#9112: So to make installing this GPU possible, I had to modify nvidia's m5000m drivers and installed that, so maybe a dumb question.
@Tech Helper
>Can me installing a GPU Driver like this effect the clocks and or explain this weird behavior?
+Should I test it with a modified m3000m driver, which is the worse version of the m4000m
JustinXenyx#8854: 12AM not PM*
JustinXenyx#8854: M4000M and M5000M have identical memory clocks, so i don't see how the modified M5000M driver would cause this in the first place
JustinXenyx#8854: Although i think it's weird you even have to modify the driver in the first place
JustinXenyx#8854: When i download a driver for the 1080Ti it also works on the 1050Ti since it's the same driver
Lady Mipha#0611: ^^^
Tinybox#9112: its an nvidia thing with mobile gpus
Tinybox#9112: If your specific Model+GPU is not listed in a long af list of hardware ID's
Tinybox#9112: it just won't install
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx
Tinybox#9112: so you have to modify an existing one, to fit what you have currently |
Tinybox#9112: M4000M presets didn't exist
Tinybox#9112: With any clevo laptop
Tinybox#9112: so I had to use M5000M or M3000M presets
Tinybox#9112: to be absolutely honest the small stutters might just be Optimus kicking in during transitions
Tinybox#9112: nvm I just noticed that GPU Z is reading the GPU memory clock as should, it's only HWMonitor&HWinfo&Unigine heaven displaying wrong memory clocks
Tinybox#9112: This is hella weird, HWMonitor displays CPU, etc etc just fine&GPU(until now?), hwinfo just doesn't want to do anything at all with the CPU, etc etc. GPU is read mostly fine, aside from the hotspot.
Tinybox#9112: Well, this is something I'll live with ig
Lady Mipha#0611: You tried these? https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/183584/en-us
Tinybox#9112: theones I got installed
IRON MAIDEN#4184: picture?
IRON MAIDEN#4184: nvrmind i googled
Tinybox#9112: Oh I got the 15inch version of that exact laptop..,
Tinybox#9112: The SM series won't work well with 9xx series cards and above without a prema mod bios
Tinybox#9112: fyi
Tinybox#9112: If you need a bios like that, you need to DM prema, and ask him to sell you one or just give you one. Or maybe you can find someone on the notebook forum willing to give it you. |
Tinybox#9112: I could also send you my Prema Bios(that came with my laptop), but like...I'm not sure if it'll work on the p170sm.., and I assume you don't have a bios flasher to save it if it messes up
TheMintyFresh#2598: I tried different bios' last night and had no luck :(
Tinybox#9112: Were any of them prema mod bioses?
TheMintyFresh#2598: They were just newer ones
Tinybox#9112: The default bios wont cut it alright.
Tinybox#9112: yea, that might be your issue
Tinybox#9112: you gotta find someone willing to give a p170sm prema mod bios..., a good place to start is the owners lounge..., here ill send you a link
TheMintyFresh#2598: The person I bought the laptop off had the receipt from pcspecialist where it was configured in the factory so its had the card in it since new that's why I'm getting so confused
TheMintyFresh#2598: I'm just gonna accept the card is dying
TheMintyFresh#2598: I'll do a fresh install of Windows 10 on it today and install everything but the nvidia drivers
TheMintyFresh#2598: If anyone's then interested in buying it I'm in the UK
TheMintyFresh#2598: I really can't spend anymore time on it sadly
Tinybox#9112: I mean, it's basically known that these laptops dont do well with the 9x series on their stock bios
Tinybox#9112: http://forum.notebookreview.com/search/44081818/?q=p170sm+prema+mod&o=relevance
Tinybox#9112: start by dming a few people that succeded in upgrading @TheMintyFresh |
Tinybox#9112: if you wanna try that out
Tinybox#9112: /if you change your mind
Currency Converter Bot#4703: Command not recognized...
TheMintyFresh#2598: Very much appreciated, I'll look into that tonight :)
Tinybox#9112: http://forum.notebookreview.com/members/prema.109539/
Tinybox#9112: if none of them want to send you their bios(which is unlikely)
Tinybox#9112: pm prema himself
Tinybox#9112: +if you don't find a 980M prema vbios, try getting a dell vbios
Tinybox#9112: ((The best is a combination of prema bios+vbios)
Tinybox#9112: gl m8
Tinybox#9112: And
Tinybox#9112: theres no need for you to look for a bios
Tinybox#9112: I found one for you
Tinybox#9112: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-p170sm-maxwell-upgrade-help.765047/page-2
Tinybox#9112: https://mega.nz/file/iBFTgLAT#xxYbRXDZmHz56REf3OsAv1mo3GPRM46xPce6gM59rFo |
Tinybox#9112: at your own risk of course
Tinybox#9112: If I were you, read more into it
TheMintyFresh#2598: Legend, I'll try it tonight and update with the results
Tinybox#9112: Also just asking to make sure
Tinybox#9112: you have made sure that you are in fact running an SM and not an SM-A?
TheMintyFresh#2598: It's SM-A but I've heard there's no motherboard differences between the two?
Tinybox#9112: no
Tinybox#9112: they're difference with audio and stuff
Tinybox#9112: its not a direct plug and play
Tinybox#9112: and other small differences.
Tinybox#9112: @TheMintyFresh You should only use SM-A bioses
Tinybox#9112: and the SM-A should be plug and play with the 900 series.
Tinybox#9112: But looking for a prema mod bios is still worth a shot
BokeeXD#9210: @Budget For your video, not gonna lie, just like your HTC, my Xperia E1 has to be stuck to stock Android because the bootloader is force locked, there is some custom rom for locked bootloaders on XDA Forums, but barely anything works, at least the stock android version is Android 4.4.2 so it is *good enough*, but Sony bloatware really does not help, I did install Nova Launcher to improve the performance, it runs *alright* when killing all the background apps but it is still not too fast.
HelloMumble#0788: Heh, I just watched your latest video @Budget... Been in that same situation but with a much newer phone. The LG G6. |
HelloMumble#0788: Where I am there is no unlocked bootloader from the manufacture, nor any support from the community due to the former reason.
JustinXenyx#8854: You got one of the weird carrier models?
JustinXenyx#8854: My European version, H870, can have the bootloader unlocked iirc
HelloMumble#0788: Nope, it's not carrier locked. Just that the LG Bootloader itself is locked.
HelloMumble#0788: And they don't give enough of a shit to provide unlocked bootloaders.
HelloMumble#0788: I've looked up online what to do, turns out there is an exploit for certain models of LG Phones (not mine). Or I'd have to buy one of those devices that cost a lot of money to bruteforce it.
HelloMumble#0788: https://www.xda-developers.com/dirtysanta-exploit-unlocks-the-bootloader-of-the-lg-v20-h990/
HelloMumble#0788: I mean, that is unless I'm getting this wrong because... My LG G6 doesn't seem to be locked by any carrier. Just the bootloader is locked itself.
HelloMumble#0788: _Not that it would help much given the fact that a) I can't really root it if the bootloader is locked and b) No common Custom ROM supports the model lol_
kotr#5588: holy shit that's a sexy phone wtf
JustinXenyx#8854: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-official-lg-g6-bootloader-unlock-currently-supported-eu-h870-usa-us997.3614719/ You seen this guide yet?
JustinXenyx#8854: You gotta unlock the bootloader yourself, although i don't really see the need for a custom ROM on the LG G6 just yet
HelloMumble#0788: My model isn't a H870.
JustinXenyx#8854: oh RIP then
HelloMumble#0788: There is even a bounty for the other models lmao https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/bounty-thread-for-lg-h870ds-unlocked-bootloader-and-root.3648185/ |
Keith.#1048: My suggestion, sell the phone and get something else
Keith.#1048: That's the sad story with LG devices, almost all of them are locked down
Lady Mipha#0611: ^^^
HelloMumble#0788: True, though there were some talks about getting them all unlocked.
BokeeXD#9210: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/914488965925588992/unknown.png
BokeeXD#9210: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/914488998922178590/Screenshot_2021-11-28-13-10-20.png
BokeeXD#9210: restoring my xperia
BokeeXD#9210: need root to delete bloatware
BokeeXD#9210: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/914491946536435712/Screenshot_2021-11-28-13-22-27.png
BokeeXD#9210: uhhhh it started freezing
BokeeXD#9210: i should select less apps
Keith.#1048: you literally used malware to root
JustinXenyx#8854: Ironic how you're using a rooting tool that's known for installing a fuckton of bloatware
Tinybox#9112: Sheesh
BokeeXD#9210: is there any other tool to root? |
BokeeXD#9210: also finally done
BokeeXD#9210: preety sure there is no manual way to root
RiceBomber#3134: what model?
BusoMasterλ³#4998: Yike
BokeeXD#9210: e1
BokeeXD#9210: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/914571072983154708/20211128_183841.jpg
BokeeXD#9210: i only kept the important stuff and the most basic apps
RiceBomber#3134: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/e1-xperia-e1-d2005-semi-official-dev-thread-flashing-hacking-rooting-and-all.2718947/ I tend to visit xda for anything root related.
Razorsz#5056: im gunna have a weird addiction to collecting old android phones inaminute xdd
SniperulTF2ist#5685: i broke one a long ago
SniperulTF2ist#5685: on purpose
sygys#7655: just got a bluescreen with the error code KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED, according to bluescreenview the process that caused it was ntoskrnl.exe, should I be worried? what could be the reason? this is the first time this has happened btw
BokeeXD#9210: oh thank you!
BokeeXD#9210: might look at thi
BokeeXD#9210: how about custom rom side tho? |
BokeeXD#9210: @RiceBomber the links are dead
BokeeXD#9210: for the flashtool it is on github so it does not help, while for the flash file i will see
BokeeXD#9210: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/914606328129929266/unknown.png
BokeeXD#9210: whyyyy
BokeeXD#9210: basically budget trying to get a custom rom on his htc
BokeeXD#9210: i give up for now
Tinybox#9112: Silent update for you, incase you're still pursuing the entire upgrade thing, I read on a random forum that you CAN flash the SM version on an SM-A, if its the prema mod but NOT if its the official clevo/sager one. Just felt like saying it. But its a random forum alright
TheMintyFresh#2598: Thanks for the support, but I'm going to do an install of Windows 10 and put it up for sale for anyone that's interested
TheMintyFresh#2598: I'll do a detailed list of specs and get some pictures
RiceBomber#3134: what areyou trying to do exactly?
BokeeXD#9210: download flashtool and a flash file
RiceBomber#3134: to flash a rom or recovery?
BokeeXD#9210: rom maybe idk
BokeeXD#9210: i forgor
BokeeXD#9210: stock is good enough |
BokeeXD#9210: might look to flash it some day but i dont even have a volume down button
BokeeXD#9210: it was making me issues so had to rip it off
RiceBomber#3134: https://github.com/Androxyde/Flashtool
RiceBomber#3134: can't find stock but here's cyanogen mod: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-kitkat-all-cyanogenmod-11-for-xperia-e1-modified.3894542/
Alcyone#2233: moment of truth https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/914669266287091783/unknown.png
Alcyone#2233: Did the heatgun reflow bring it back to life?
Alcyone#2233: we have driver, time to test https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/914670199339372595/unknown.png
Alcyone#2233: aha its working, at least for now https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/914671275375460372/unknown.png
Alcyone#2233: well about 20 minutes of being pegged at 100% and it didnt quit. Gamer time
Gamefreak924#5901: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/914686065644806164/image0.jpg
Gamefreak924#5901: Is this okay to still connect to my PC?
Gamefreak924#5901: (Missing plastic around power pins)
JustinXenyx#8854: That's a hard no
JustinXenyx#8854: The power cable isn't secure in the slightest and could very easily short out
Gamefreak924#5901: any tips on a quick fix? @JustinXenyx |
JustinXenyx#8854: There's no way you're doing a quick fix on that
JustinXenyx#8854: If you wanna get the data off it you should try one of those USB docking stations since they have one plastic connector that sits very securely, but that drive is toast for just using it in your rig
Gamefreak924#5901: No, I want to use it lol
mando#9418: You know you could try to use the old plastic piece that broke off if you still have it laying around
mando#9418: very janky to put into the connector though, do not recommend it
Gamefreak924#5901: Don't have it, got the drive for free lol
Gamefreak924#5901: I thought about taking some plastic from something else for it though and just supergluing it on
mando#9418: you could try to source a replacement board for an identical hard drive. a new board would have a new connector.
JustinXenyx#8854: To be honest if the power connector looks like that it might just not be worthwhile
mando#9418: superglue makes a mess and generally doesnt go well, maybe dont
Gamefreak924#5901: It's a 2TB
JustinXenyx#8854: Drive could've been dropped which is a huge nono
Gamefreak924#5901: that's why
mando#9418: yeah id say just find a new controller board for it
Gamefreak924#5901: drive wasn't dropped. My boss broke the plastic at work and just gave it to me |
JustinXenyx#8854: Finding a controller board is a possibility, but can be tricky depending on the drive
Gamefreak924#5901: Controller board is about $36 :/ Which is why I keep thinking of DIYing it
Gamefreak924#5901: at least on ebay anyway
JustinXenyx#8854: If you wanted to go for absolute gigajank you could solder power wires on manually but at that point you should probably just buy a new drive
Gamefreak924#5901: probs, I'll think of something maybe probably
Gamefreak924#5901: thanks for the info though!
Atreea#2307: heres a better idea
Atreea#2307: 3d print the plastic part :Xdxdxd:
Atreea#2307: then superglue it
Atreea#2307: and pray it doesnt get loose
Dogecode#7321: wonder if you could just 3d print the entire plastic housing and replace it as one piece
Dogecode#7321: no superglue required
Atreea#2307: possible
Atreea#2307: but modelling all of them would be a pain no ?
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd: |
Dogecode#7321: i have a random controller board i saved off some dead drive
Dogecode#7321: idk if ill ever use it again
Dogecode#7321: lmao
Dogecode#7321: (it's definitely not the one for this drive, this one is for a different 3.5 inch drive)
The United States Air Force#7904: Not everyone has a 3d printer
Dogecode#7321: At least it's from a relatively common drive (wd blue 250gb) so it's possible i might need it eventually
The United States Air Force#7904: I mean those may have different models
The United States Air Force#7904: But ye
Dogecode#7321: yeah
Atreea#2307: i mean a cheap 3d print service exist
The United States Air Force#7904: Ig the controller should be similar enough
The United States Air Force#7904: True
Atreea#2307: you cant really just slap on a controller board from 1 hdd to another though
Dogecode#7321: ye, idk how widely compatible they are
Atreea#2307: last i did that the hdd becomes unrecognizeable |
Dogecode#7321: i think it has to be the exact same drive
Atreea#2307: you need to transfer the bios chip with it
Atreea#2307: or whatever its called
Dogecode#7321: even if it's the exact same drive
Dogecode#7321: model
HelloMumble#0788: Question: What do you do if you've got a WD that you are sure works but the controller board for it is dead.
HelloMumble#0788: _Like the drive doesn't seem broken, it just won't power on. External 500GB WD Blue_
HelloMumble#0788: If anyone has any suggestions (beyond just tossing the drive in the e-waste trash), lmk.
Keith.#1048: Did you try it in an actual computer without the enclosure
HelloMumble#0788: Ye
Keith.#1048: Β―\\_(γ)\_/Β―
Keith.#1048: Then it's a brick
HelloMumble#0788: I swear I heard there was more you could do, like changing the board with another board from the exact same drive and it would work.
Keith.#1048: Theoretically yes
Keith.#1048: But it has to be a matching revision down to matching components |
steamypotato#5293: Do you think the backlight in this Mac is blown? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/914828490786865172/PXL_20211129_104007660.jpg
Keith.#1048: Either that or the inverter is dead
Lady Mipha#0611: ^^^^
π΄ππππ’π#2236: Okay, what's your opinion on this:
I wanted to have a semi-decent audio experience with my pc setup (a thinkpad T480 with a dock) and was considering connecting it up to one of those early 2000's sony micro- hifi units. I have one in my room and the amp and dac are decent enough for what i need, and the speakers would be an upgrade over my current logitech ones. I have some concerns with whether the wood effect and grey speakers would go with an all black pc setup though
Keith.#1048: Absolutely
Keith.#1048: Make it look neat and you got yourself a nice looking setup
JanR#4418: 100%
JanR#4418: If PRAM did not fix this, then the backlight is dead. It is common in those old models
π΄ππππ’π#2236: okii
π΄ππππ’π#2236: Lets just say I went for something beefier https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/914972232000892988/20211129_201241.jpg
π΄ππππ’π#2236: A massive Yamaha DSP and amp
Scav Rat#6490: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/585235845305466908/915038353513136208/unknown.png?width=229&height=375
Scav Rat#6490: yes
Scav Rat#6490: ay the AKG, they k52? |
Gamefreak924#5901: is there any way to burn media using ImgBurn to a DVD-R disc that was previously used, but formatted.
Gamefreak924#5901: Like there is technically enough space on it.
Scav Rat#6490: i think minitool/paragon can actually partition a disk so it shows as a second disk
Atreea#2307: i need some help
Atreea#2307: should i get a 240mm aio or arctic freezer 34
Atreea#2307: the 240mm cost cheaper
Atreea#2307: ~~and has argb wao~~
Atreea#2307: or just save money and go with darkflash L6 tower
Scav Rat#6490: what aio is it
Atreea#2307: coolmoon aio
Atreea#2307: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915068210108329994/unknown.png
Atreea#2307: Coolmoon T240
Scav Rat#6490: its chinese
Scav Rat#6490: i can guaratee its not lasting a year
Atreea#2307: all aio is made in china wdym |
Scav Rat#6490: its got worse cooling capacity aswell
Scav Rat#6490: yeah but this is strait of aliexpress
Scav Rat#6490: the arctic freezer 34 duo has got better cooling capacity
Atreea#2307: comes with warranty tho
Scav Rat#6490: and wont shitout after 1 year
Scav Rat#6490: you really think there gonna honour that
Atreea#2307: its a local seller
Atreea#2307: not from aliexpress
Atreea#2307: :FeelsRetardedMan:
Atreea#2307: i dont buy shit from aliex ever since the new tax law is in place
Scav Rat#6490: its worse then the arctic and whill guaratee shit out in less then a year
Scav Rat#6490: make your choice from that
Atreea#2307: how about darkflash L6
Scav Rat#6490: also from the looks of it you can get a used h110/100i for that price if you really want a aio
Atreea#2307: artic is insanely expensive |
Atreea#2307: kek
Atreea#2307: no
Atreea#2307: why should i
Scav Rat#6490: becuase it wont shit the bed?
Scav Rat#6490: also arctic freezer duo is less then Β£40
Atreea#2307: i had a thermaltake extreme 3.0, last quite
Atreea#2307: then i tear it apart for some reason :FeelsRetardedMan:
Atreea#2307: freezer duo cost a lot
Scav Rat#6490: 39.44 on amazon
Atreea#2307: how about this one https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915069502696325171/unknown.png
Scav Rat#6490: just get a hyper 212 evo?
Atreea#2307: dude this is a lot https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915069613065244702/unknown.png
Scav Rat#6490: or a hyper 212 black edition
Scav Rat#6490: Β£25 on amazon
Atreea#2307: still cost a lot but bearable https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915069780002746408/unknown.png |
Scav Rat#6490: but the arctic is a hell of alot beter
Scav Rat#6490: more reliable
Atreea#2307: why would i want a 212 if i already have a 4 heatpipe downdraft cooler :Xdxdxd:
Scav Rat#6490: or just get a cooler master hyper 212 black editiong
Scav Rat#6490: why are you upgrading then?
Atreea#2307: because this isnt enough for 30c ambient
Atreea#2307: its either that or my cpu is a shit clocker
Scav Rat#6490: what cpu is it
Atreea#2307: 3600
Scav Rat#6490: a chinese cooler will never have stable temps
Scav Rat#6490: get a repulatble brand
Atreea#2307: :FeelsRetardedMan:
Atreea#2307: >chinese cooler never gets stable temp
Scav Rat#6490: bvruh simple as your upgrading but your upgrade will be worse then what you currently have so your litteraly downgrading
Atreea#2307: forgets CM is chinese |
Scav Rat#6490: im talking no name chinese
Scav Rat#6490: like coolmoon
Atreea#2307: how is coolmoon no name
Scav Rat#6490: or red draagon
Atreea#2307: thats like saying barrow or deepcool as no name
Scav Rat#6490: never even heard of barrow
Scav Rat#6490: deepcool is reputable
Atreea#2307: :FeelsRetardedMan:
Scav Rat#6490: brands like coolmoon are only known for making cheap shit
Scav Rat#6490: im going to reiterate this
Scav Rat#6490: if you want better cooling poerformance buy a 2nd hand aio or just pay out the mony for a good air cooler
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd: guess ill just go my own way then
Scav Rat#6490: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915070803761070080/unknown.png
Atreea#2307: asia pc building experience mode
Scav Rat#6490: btw the price for that arctic is going rate |
Scav Rat#6490: normal price that
Atreea#2307: still cost a lot for me
Scav Rat#6490: your paying for a downgrade then
Scav Rat#6490: also a 3600 shouldnt have a issue even on a shit air cooler
Scav Rat#6490: check your thermal paste
Scav Rat#6490: or your voltage
Atreea#2307: pbo
Scav Rat#6490: ?
Atreea#2307: im using pbo
Atreea#2307: not manual oc
Scav Rat#6490: pbo?
Atreea#2307: :FeelsRetardedMan:
Atreea#2307: yes ?
Scav Rat#6490: oh that ryzen auto tuning shit
Scav Rat#6490: what even are your temps under full load |
Atreea#2307: 85-90
Atreea#2307: since i set the soft throttle at 85
Atreea#2307: amd default is 90
Scav Rat#6490: whats ur package delta?
Scav Rat#6490: to core 1
Atreea#2307: between the cores ?
Scav Rat#6490: no
Atreea#2307: i've seen 10c max delta
Scav Rat#6490: check your thermal paste
Scav Rat#6490: a 4 pipe cooler on a 65w cpu should have no issues
Atreea#2307: rn idling at +40c from temp room idle
Scav Rat#6490: also i bet your cpu is massivly over volted cause that auto tuning shit always does it
Scav Rat#6490: do a manuel oc
Scav Rat#6490: strait up
Atreea#2307: well i wont say idle ill say 20% load |
Scav Rat#6490: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915072252062597180/unknown.png
Scav Rat#6490: same for me
Scav Rat#6490: thats normal
Scav Rat#6490: my idle will still sit a little higher cause water cooling
Atreea#2307: just cooked itself https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915072358832812032/unknown.png
Scav Rat#6490: whats your VCORE under load
Scav Rat#6490: cause you should be able to effectivly reach full boost at 1.33-1.35v
Atreea#2307: 1.28
Scav Rat#6490: eh
Atreea#2307: i already used negative 2
Atreea#2307: so it doesnt blast it with 1.35
Scav Rat#6490: is that AVX2 load?
Atreea#2307: cpu-z isnt avx2
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd:
Scav Rat#6490: get OCCT |
Scav Rat#6490: run a extreme cpu bench and send the temp curve
Atreea#2307: I dont dare
Atreea#2307: It will immediately thermal throttle
Scav Rat#6490: OCCT will throttle test under instability
Scav Rat#6490: its safe
Scav Rat#6490: also if its instant throttle you have a serious issue
Scav Rat#6490: like
Atreea#2307: Prime blasted it to 95 immediately
Scav Rat#6490: i can almost guarantee its your thermal compound
Scav Rat#6490: replace it
Scav Rat#6490: its not expensive
Atreea#2307: Gd900 is bad ?
mando#9418: MX-5 is like 5 bucks or something
Atreea#2307: I use the same cooler with my 2nd pc maintains around 60c tho
Atreea#2307: Different cpu obv :Xdxdxd: |
Scav Rat#6490: yeah applications are different
Atreea#2307: But still a room heater cpu
Scav Rat#6490: but still ryzen mounting doesnt have as muc mount pressure as most intel brackets
Scav Rat#6490: so a thinner compound is better
Scav Rat#6490: also
Scav Rat#6490: what the fuck is gd900 theres like 3 videos on it
Atreea#2307: Asian mx-4
Scav Rat#6490: yeah
Scav Rat#6490: they say it performs the same
Scav Rat#6490: i can guarantee its a shit application
Scav Rat#6490: or too little
Scav Rat#6490: you can try reapplying it but
Scav Rat#6490: if i were you just get some noctua NT-H2
mando#9418: isnt that stuff more meant for actual noctua coolers?
Scav Rat#6490: yes and no |
mando#9418: like obviously it would perform fine anywhere
Atreea#2307: Noctua again
Scav Rat#6490: its a really thin paste
Atreea#2307: Id rather get kryonaut for the price
Scav Rat#6490: which is good for ryzen mounting
Scav Rat#6490: kryonaut thermal compound is awfull
mando#9418: and isnt kryonaut more for extreme temps??
mando#9418: why bother with kryonaut?
Scav Rat#6490: its really thick and only good thing they make is the LM
Scav Rat#6490: so yeah
Scav Rat#6490: its hsit
Scav Rat#6490: i run mx-5 cause it was free from scan but if your buying paste for ryzen get noctua
mando#9418: i personally run mx5 on my ryzen and its great
mando#9418: so long as you get the application correct
Scav Rat#6490: yeah i run mx-5 on intel 1151 |
Atreea#2307: I use 3 dots for ryzen
Scav Rat#6490: 1 dot in the middle of a thinner compound is fine
mando#9418: personally, i like to squirt out a little more than i need then spread it myself with the little spatula. you get full coverage and the spatula picks up any excess
JustinXenyx#8854: tbh unless you're specifically chasing the absolute lowest temps basic stuff like MX2, MX4, MX5 and/or similar works perfectly fine
Scav Rat#6490: you can but it mostly isnt needed
Scav Rat#6490: yeah but he is buying a paste may aswell get the best
Scav Rat#6490: eveyone just uses the free shit they get from scan
Atreea#2307: I guess ill just go with my gut feeling
Scav Rat#6490: ie mx5
JustinXenyx#8854: As long as you're not going into bottom-level HY510 shit tier thermal paste you can buy pretty much anything well-known and you'll do fine with it
Atreea#2307: Western brands cost too much for southeast asians
JustinXenyx#8854: HY510 is only for hardware you don't care about, i talk from experience lmao
Atreea#2307: Who tf uses hy510 in their main system :Xdxdxd:
Atreea#2307: Hy880 is minimum
Scav Rat#6490: differenet mounting systems benefit from different paste |
Scav Rat#6490: ryzen has lower mount pressure so a thinner compound like noctua is better in this case then arctic
Scav Rat#6490: better coverage
Scav Rat#6490: ahrder to fuck up
Scav Rat#6490: but hes insta hitting TJ max so its almost guaranteed paste
JustinXenyx#8854: I got some huge tubes cheap ages ago, so i had plenty of time to test it in multiple systems
Scav Rat#6490: aint that hy series shit a thermal "grease"
JustinXenyx#8854: The tube certainly says thermal grease although i think that's most likely a mistranslation from chinese
Scav Rat#6490: @Atreea get OCCT do a 30s bench and send temp graph
Scav Rat#6490: also aint it like conductive and everything you dont want in a thermal paste
JustinXenyx#8854: At least the HY510 stuff i have is definitely not conductive, can't speak for any of those other HY pastes although i don't really have a reason to believe any of them are conductive
Scav Rat#6490: and dont it like seperate
JustinXenyx#8854: Honestly i was waiting for that to happen but thus far that hasn't happened to anything i've used HY510 in
Atreea#2307: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915076248449998888/unknown.png
Scav Rat#6490: yeah
Scav Rat#6490: let it cool to 50 |
Scav Rat#6490: then redo a 10s test so i can see the first spike
mando#9418: are you using the stock cooler? idk if you said already
Scav Rat#6490: but yeah thats basically guaranteed apste with tho thermal spikes and instability
Scav Rat#6490: aftermarket
Atreea#2307: thats never going to happen
Atreea#2307: my cpu never go below 60
mando#9418: how bad can that aftermarket cooler be? its a 3600...
Scav Rat#6490: it isnt the cooler
mando#9418: it has to be thermal paste
Scav Rat#6490: its his paste
Scav Rat#6490: yeah
Scav Rat#6490: ive said this like 4 times
mando#9418: bro just use mustard at this point
mando#9418: toothpaste would transfer heat better
Scav Rat#6490: mans using fucking marmite |
Scav Rat#6490: it litteralyu wood
Scav Rat#6490: its been tested
Atreea#2307: this is weird tho
Scav Rat#6490: no
Scav Rat#6490: its expected behaviour
Atreea#2307: i use the same exact cooler and paste for my 960T system
Atreea#2307: the cpu temp is around 46c idle
mando#9418: dude marmite and prime95 go together like peanut butter and marmite
Scav Rat#6490: yeah but different applications
Scav Rat#6490: you can try to reapply
Scav Rat#6490: or i can recomend get some noctua nt-h2
Atreea#2307: i guess ill get the darkflash L6 + some thermal paste then ?
Atreea#2307: legit sus temps :Xdxdxd:
Scav Rat#6490: dont replace ur cooler
Scav Rat#6490: seriously |
Scav Rat#6490: it aint ur cooler
Scav Rat#6490: just the paste thats it
mando#9418: look if you wanna be cool and replace your cooler thats fine
mando#9418: just dont buy one under the premise that its the only thing you need to fix your issue
JustinXenyx#8854: ngl that L6 is super dated in its design
Scav Rat#6490: its the deadstock shit
Scav Rat#6490: get a 212
Scav Rat#6490: its litteraly the same price
JustinXenyx#8854: No reasonable air cooler in 2021 has its heatpipes directly exposed to the CPU
mando#9418: the 212 performs better than stock which is nice
Atreea#2307: 212 has a directly exposed heatpipe too
Scav Rat#6490: cooler master and bequiet
Scav Rat#6490: yeah if you want to upgrade your cooelr at the price point thats ur best best bet
Scav Rat#6490: but your cooelr is fine
JustinXenyx#8854: Hyper 212s design is fucking ancient at this point, for that one it's not too unexpected |
Scav Rat#6490: its old but its performs really well
mando#9418: look the 212 gets a pass, it looks good, its (relatively) budget friendly and the new mounting makes it actually usable
Scav Rat#6490: but all you need is a thermal paste change its not the cooler that s broke
mando#9418: that old mounting is awful though
Scav Rat#6490: tbh i could thermal paste my nans kindle on it and it would cool it
Scav Rat#6490: its only 65w
Alcyone#2233: 212 is a dinosaur. There are better $30 air coolers now
mando#9418: still, nothing wrong with replacing the cooler if you want it for looks
mando#9418: isnt that scyte fuma around the same price?
mando#9418: i hear that thing is pretty good
mando#9418: i think
Scav Rat#6490: the 212 black editiong aint that daited looking
Alcyone#2233: If you have one though no reason to throw it out
Atreea#2307: yea this is whack, the same cooler and paste on my 2nd pc with occt gets to 54-55c and flattening out
Alcyone#2233: Fuma is $60 |
mando#9418: i like the simpler design of the 212 honestly
Scav Rat#6490: different applications matter
JustinXenyx#8854: What i was getting at is that with those coolers your thermal paste application can make quite a sizable difference and you gotta make sure you're getting good coverage
Atreea#2307: its AM3
Atreea#2307: literally the same mounting mechanism with am4
Scav Rat#6490: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915078123794628679/81eWFgRrFZL.png
mando#9418: what the 212?
Alcyone#2233: Direct heatpipe a bish
mando#9418: the 212 has been am4 since am4
Scav Rat#6490: Β£25
mando#9418: ive installed like 10 of em
Alcyone#2233: I use a card and tint the cooler with paste filling in the gaps
Scav Rat#6490: 212 supports litteraly every bracket past am2+
JustinXenyx#8854: The initial design of the Hyper 212 is literally over a decade old
Atreea#2307: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915078401553997896/unknown.png |
Atreea#2307: 2nd pc
Atreea#2307: :FeelsRetardedMan:
Alcyone#2233: I had the og 212 that had a split fin stack back in 775 era
Atreea#2307: i have a feeling the mounting pressure of this cooler is insufficient for ryzen
Scav Rat#6490: ive said this like 4 times different applications makea difference
JustinXenyx#8854: Hyper 212 Black Edition is the original Hyper 212 design slightly revamped to look more modern, but the cooling performance is going to be fairly similar between the two designs
Atreea#2307: i applied the paste many times before
Scav Rat#6490: same mine was a bit more modern in start of am3
Scav Rat#6490: and this one happens to be bad
Scav Rat#6490: reapply it
Alcyone#2233: Nothing has changed on hyper 212 except the bracket
mando#9418: the hyper 212 mounting pressure is fine
Alcyone#2233: Heatpipe fins etc are all the same on single and dual fan models
mando#9418: its a 3600, a slice of ham could cool it if you hold it down right
JustinXenyx#8854: Apparently the fan on the Black Edition model is better than what shipped with the 212 Evo, however i can't directly confirm that since the only 212 Evo i have is already a couple of years in use so the fan will have wear on it |
mando#9418: were talking about one of the most effecient ryzens period
Scav Rat#6490: 212 is capatable of ~150w
Atreea#2307: should i try sanding the cooler a bit too
Alcyone#2233: Probably is. They had the 212+ before that had a better fan than the evo
mando#9418: what no
Scav Rat#6490: which for a "outdated" design is still impressive on a Β£25 cooler
mando#9418: dont sand anything
mando#9418: why
Atreea#2307: or lapping
Atreea#2307: whatever its called
Alcyone#2233: Don't bother
Atreea#2307: idk im guessing mounting pressure
Scav Rat#6490: the black editiong coems with a CM silencio fan which act aint that bad
mando#9418: no need, youre not doing anything crazy
mando#9418: lapping is not for kids |
Scav Rat#6490: most likely but all you need to do chang eyour paste and if it dont fix it get a thinner paste cause clearly that cooler doesnt like that paste
mando#9418: ive never lapped before and it doesnt sound like the best time
Scav Rat#6490: or even prespread it like mando does
JustinXenyx#8854: Lapping doesn't make sense for most people
Alcyone#2233: It's not hard. Just tedious
Alcyone#2233: And is probably only gonna net a couple c
Scav Rat#6490: its unndeed in a low wattage application like this
Scav Rat#6490: not even that in a low power case like this
mando#9418: lapping only seems necessary for hardcore oc stuff
Scav Rat#6490: and still risk fucking up your cooler if you mess it up
Alcyone#2233: Low power. Keep calm and increase vcore
Atreea#2307: this is my current cooler https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915079674739191818/unknown.png
Atreea#2307: i googled around for the type
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd:
Scav Rat#6490: yeah |
Scav Rat#6490: that can handle 65w
Scav Rat#6490: easy
mando#9418: oh yeah that cooler is fine
mando#9418: maybe not quite as good as stock but
Atreea#2307: so paste
mando#9418: stock is overkill, which is pretty indicative of what youre working with
Scav Rat#6490: ```css
it is the thermal paste just repalce it and it will fix the issues
```
Alcyone#2233: I've done 4.4 ghz ivy i5 on a celeron stock cooler
Atreea#2307: i mean im looking at other paste too
Scav Rat#6490: noctua is best best for ryzen
Atreea#2307: opinion on this paste ? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915080006399578142/unknown.png
Scav Rat#6490: currently on 5ghz on a Β£20 amazon waterblock cause im waiting on stock
Alcyone#2233: Arctic mx5. |
mando#9418: daaaamn
Scav Rat#6490: worse performance the mx-2
mando#9418: ive actually never oc'd a personal rig
Alcyone#2233: Nactua paste.
mando#9418: im just lazy like that
Atreea#2307: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915080141909147658/unknown.png
mando#9418: i mean mx2 was decent
Scav Rat#6490: still tho
mando#9418: wasnt great but it got the job done
Alcyone#2233: Mx2 is my go to
Atreea#2307: the seller provided sheet
Alcyone#2233: Works fine
Alcyone#2233: I use GC extreme and thermalright pk-3 for my daily
Alcyone#2233: Thicc pastes that don't thermal pump at 200w+
Atreea#2307: whats the difference between H1 and H2 |
Alcyone#2233: Conductivity
Alcyone#2233: H2 is slightly better. Maybe 2c. Won't make a difference for most
Scav Rat#6490: h2 is more modern and performs slightly better and lasts a little longer
Scav Rat#6490: als btw that thermal compound is 12.6 w/m-k and mx2 is 5.6
mando#9418: yikes
mando#9418: mx2 kinda _sucks_
mando#9418: havent used it in a while admittedly
Scav Rat#6490: i can guarantee the thermal paste from china isnt geting 12.6
Scav Rat#6490: that is utter bullshit
Atreea#2307: HY-A9 can hit that
Atreea#2307: A12 too
Scav Rat#6490: no it claims that
Scav Rat#6490: that menas its out performing kryonaut
Atreea#2307: they cost about as much as a H1 though
Scav Rat#6490: and pk-3 |
Atreea#2307: how about thermalright ?
Scav Rat#6490: those figures claimed are utter shit
Atreea#2307: you know, if with the paste it still doesnt handle it well im getting that stupid AIO
Scav Rat#6490: IT ISNT THE COOLER
Atreea#2307: at least it will have a flat coldplate :Xdxdxd:
Scav Rat#6490: BRUH
Atreea#2307: IF
Atreea#2307: i said IF
Scav Rat#6490: get some mx4 or nth2
Atreea#2307: wtf
Atreea#2307: you said H1
Atreea#2307: now H2
Scav Rat#6490: nth2 is actually 12.5
Scav Rat#6490: i always said nth2
Scav Rat#6490: other person said h1 |
Atreea#2307: oh i read this
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd:
Scav Rat#6490: h1 is 11.6 and h2 is 12.5
Scav Rat#6490: and its a very thin liquid
Atreea#2307: $10 for a tube
Atreea#2307: :JellyBeanFace:
Scav Rat#6490: its a high performance paste
Atreea#2307: fair enough
Scav Rat#6490: if you dont want to pay that atleast get mx4
Atreea#2307: cost 50% more than kryo
Scav Rat#6490: kryo is worse
Scav Rat#6490: also its really thick
Scav Rat#6490: bad for ryzen
Alcyone#2233: Numbers aren't everything.
Atreea#2307: H1 cost less ... |
Scav Rat#6490: h1 is last gen still good
Atreea#2307: :OmegaxD: well shit i cant pick
Atreea#2307: 155k vs 100k idr
Scav Rat#6490: get h1 if price is a issue
Scav Rat#6490: your running low power applications you will not see a noticable performance differnece
Scav Rat#6490: thermal conductivity is thermal conductivity mx4 is thicker then nt series pastes and the mounting pressure on ryzen isnt like intel so heavily benefits from a thinner paste
Scav Rat#6490: also nt-h1/2 is rated for 5y+
Alcyone#2233: Bigger the glob, better the job https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915083702265085992/IMG_20211028_104557845_HDR.jpg
Atreea#2307: bruh
Scav Rat#6490: what the fuck
Atreea#2307: :Bruhh:
Alcyone#2233: That's how the people that are good at PC do it
Atreea#2307: more like wasteful
Scav Rat#6490: my man not only cooling his cpu with that thermal paste but also half his motherboard
Atreea#2307: empty 1/4 tube for nothing :Xdxdxd: |
Scav Rat#6490: fuck cleaning that when it has to come out
Alcyone#2233: In like 2 years
Scav Rat#6490: do that on amd and your temps will shit themself
Alcyone#2233: No
Alcyone#2233: I have built plenty of am3 and am4. More is always better
Scav Rat#6490: the mouting pressure on ryzen ain displacing that much paste effectivly
Scav Rat#6490: so have i
Scav Rat#6490: lmao
Alcyone#2233: It's displacing all of it.
Scav Rat#6490: ive litteraly built 5 in the past month
Alcyone#2233: There is no gap between the ihs and cooler plate. Extra just squished out the sides
Alcyone#2233: Nothing is worse than too little paste
Scav Rat#6490: its called a reasonable amount
Scav Rat#6490: this
Scav Rat#6490: this is unreasonable |
Alcyone#2233: Gotta cover the entire ihs and get every drop of thermal transfer you can
JustinXenyx#8854: Unreasonable sure, but there really isn't such a thing as too much paste
Scav Rat#6490: intel dies are tiny compared the IHS and its 1 die on the chip and you are not seeing the differnece it "getting every drop of thermal transfer" you will see hotspotting before you see the benefit of whatever the fuck that is
Atreea#2307: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915085149262217226/Capture_2021-11-30-10-41-30.jpg
Atreea#2307: k
Atreea#2307: time to wait
Atreea#2307: :FeelsRetardedMan:
Atreea#2307: should arrive this afternoon
Scav Rat#6490: litteraly everything after 3rd gen uses thermal paste instead of solder under the die
Atreea#2307: 3-4 hrs from now
Scav Rat#6490: so you will hotspot before seing performacne differnce
Scav Rat#6490: same day delivery?
Atreea#2307: ye
Atreea#2307: same day discount
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd: |
Atreea#2307: why not
Scav Rat#6490: you dont need 3 dots just a reasonable amount in the middle and its thin enough that it will spread itself out
Scav Rat#6490: also it comes with cleaning wipes so that will help with prep
Alcyone#2233: @Scav Rat no only 3rd through 8th
Scav Rat#6490: did they go back?
Alcyone#2233: 7000 is the only pasted hedt
Alcyone#2233: Yes at 9th gen
Alcyone#2233: Chads we're running delid with liquid metal before that
Scav Rat#6490: im thinking about delid
Scav Rat#6490: 5.2 ghz
Scav Rat#6490: i got a well binned chip
Scav Rat#6490: this bitch suffering
Scav Rat#6490: im upgrading soo so may aswell have some fun with the cpu while i can
Alcyone#2233: I do 5.1 daily but bench at 5.4 ish on air
Alcyone#2233: 9700kf |
Scav Rat#6490: my waterblock is shit so i daily 4.8 with 4.7 under avx loads but for heavy games and benchs i do 5ghz for a short time cause sustained load causes me to reach TJ
Scav Rat#6490: is the F series the binned chips
Scav Rat#6490: or the ones without the iGPU
Scav Rat#6490: its the no IGPU ones
Alcyone#2233: I'm still using my phanteks cooler I bought used for $50 back in Sandy era
Alcyone#2233: Unstoppable
Scav Rat#6490: bruh i was running 4.7 on this cpu on a Β£5 cooelr i bought from maplins when it closed near me
Scav Rat#6490: this
Scav Rat#6490: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915087460030111835/HS085AK_40204_800x800.png
Scav Rat#6490: this is what i used
Scav Rat#6490: shit was funny
Scav Rat#6490: always hit TJ
Scav Rat#6490: in fact
Alcyone#2233: Chonkboi https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915087560936661072/IMG_20211029_160729829.jpg
Scav Rat#6490: i still have it |
Alcyone#2233: That and the mk-26 GPU cooler makes matx look like itx
Scav Rat#6490: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915087839631380490/DDF72E11-2E13-44F0-B6E9-11F95FE23401.jpg
Scav Rat#6490: This thing served me well
Scav Rat#6490: Then I went to custom loop
Scav Rat#6490: Never going back lmao
Atreea#2307: how
Atreea#2307: you live in the arctic ?
Scav Rat#6490: i have no fucking clue
Alcyone#2233: Maybe delid
Scav Rat#6490: nope
Scav Rat#6490: stock IHS
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd: 4.7 in that ihs
Alcyone#2233: Chop the top and get an extra 200mhz
Grockle#7163: 4.7* (2.4 actual)
Atreea#2307: either its running at 90c or the fan is supercharged to 4000rpm |
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd:
Scav Rat#6490: it held 85 on most days but anything over 17 or so and it hit TJ
Alcyone#2233: My overclocks are all ran through p95 and y cruncher
Scav Rat#6490: when it was running 85 there was no TJ btw
Scav Rat#6490: man was edging it tho
Alcyone#2233: Y cruncher is a spicy boi. It will use the heaviest avx your cpu supports
Alcyone#2233: Literally melting 11th gen with avx512
Scav Rat#6490: i mean under sustained load on custom water cooling 5ghz at 1.27v i average 80-85 however if my fluid heats right up it will TJ so i just chill on 4.7
Atreea#2307: my 3600 at 90c : sendh elp pls
Scav Rat#6490: its ya thermal paste
Atreea#2307: seller still processing
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd:
Scav Rat#6490: my cpu temps are really shit cause i got a cheap chiense amazon waterblock
Scav Rat#6490: and its awfull
Scav Rat#6490: im going right back to ek |
Atreea#2307: lap it then
Alcyone#2233: My old ek GPU block nickel peeled off
Scav Rat#6490: no the micro fins inside are dogshit
Scav Rat#6490: it ahrdly transfer heat to the coolant
Alcyone#2233: Never going ek again
Atreea#2307: its not microfins if it has 1mm spacing
Atreea#2307: its milled
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd:
Alcyone#2233: Alphacool will be my next cpu block
Scav Rat#6490: some thermal compounds reacted with the older blocks iirc
Scav Rat#6490: last one was alpha cool
Scav Rat#6490: it leaked
Alcyone#2233: No on the coolant side
Alcyone#2233: Just eroded running clear coolant
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd: |
Atreea#2307: how did it end
Scav Rat#6490: oh i just got the block and i was running a leak test so nothing but the pumop was powered on
Scav Rat#6490: and i was runniong uv fluid so i saw it strait away
Scav Rat#6490: bitch got yeeted
Scav Rat#6490: i dont understand the crackheads who leak test with there whole ass build on
Atreea#2307: i mean it mightbe fine on a test loop
Scav Rat#6490: anwyas si got my wholeass pc and all i do is play osu
Scav Rat#6490: its like the fortnite kids with the 3080s
Atreea#2307: 7600k
Atreea#2307: osu
Atreea#2307: :Bruhh:
Atreea#2307: haloh
Scav Rat#6490: 1000fps baby
Atreea#2307: doesnt matter if the best monitor in the market is just shy of 400hz
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd: |
Scav Rat#6490: i run 180hz
Scav Rat#6490: but you idealt want a 2x overlap
Scav Rat#6490: i happen to run 6x
Scav Rat#6490: lmao
Alcyone#2233: My 7 year old has 3770k system. Only plays Roblox, Minecraft and animal jam
Scav Rat#6490: thje 3770k is a mint cpu still
Scav Rat#6490: i want to pickup another dell optipex so i can use it as a media transcoder for my servers
Scav Rat#6490: there relaly good priced with good cpu
Alcyone#2233: This one is shit. Worst 1155 I've had yet. And I've had probably a dozen k sku
Atreea#2307: when im 7 years old the family computer is a pentium 4 with 256mb ram
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd:
Scav Rat#6490: yeah i had a fucking acer aio
Atreea#2307: from acer
Atreea#2307: :OmegaxD:
Scav Rat#6490: i used to play TF2 @ less then 5fps |
Scav Rat#6490: il go tohugh my photos and find it
Scav Rat#6490: it was dog
Atreea#2307: my 3600 is sitting at 70c now
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd:
Atreea#2307: where paste
Atreea#2307: so i can swap tonight
Alcyone#2233: This is her pc https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915090177486098442/IMG_20211106_105746907.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915090178194952252/IMG_20211105_005817925.jpg
Alcyone#2233: I also use dual boot. It's my xp machine when she's not using it
Atreea#2307: is taht 32 gb
Atreea#2307: :JellyBeanFace:
Alcyone#2233: 16
Atreea#2307: 4x4
Alcyone#2233: 4x4
Scav Rat#6490: i carnt tell if its ddr3 or 4
Atreea#2307: why |
Alcyone#2233: 1155 hates 4gb ic
Atreea#2307: has to be 3
Scav Rat#6490: yeah
Scav Rat#6490: it looks to old to be 4
Scav Rat#6490: thats like ripjaw x styling
Alcyone#2233: It runs 2200 c9 because the board or cpu won't run 2400+
Alcyone#2233: It's mushkin redline ridgeback. Old ass 2400 kit
Atreea#2307: :Bruhh:
Atreea#2307: 2200 in ddr3
Atreea#2307: my ddr3 system runs max 1866
Atreea#2307: then again its a 760k
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd:
Scav Rat#6490: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915090897593585704/c04027717.png
Scav Rat#6490: i found it
Alcyone#2233: That's nothing. You can run like ddr3 3000-3200 on haswell with the right setup |
Atreea#2307: :OmegaxD:
Scav Rat#6490: pentium j2900
Scav Rat#6490: 2gb ram
Scav Rat#6490: used to whip that bitch on tf2
Alcyone#2233: This is p67 so it's not even a good board for mem frequency
Scav Rat#6490: my other build is a 8450
Scav Rat#6490: 8350*
Scav Rat#6490: fx black edition
Scav Rat#6490: thing is weird
Scav Rat#6490: corsair h110i
Scav Rat#6490: but the loda temps and idle temps are identicle
Scav Rat#6490: i dont fuck with it it hold clock
Scav Rat#6490: oh and it occasionly doesnt post with memory errors
Scav Rat#6490: i darent touch that fucking thing
Alcyone#2233: I had a 9590 on sabertooth 990fx I flipped earlier this year |
Scav Rat#6490: its prob about to fold
Alcyone#2233: Got it to 5.5ghz with 280mm aio
Scav Rat#6490: just buy a space heater if your that cold
Scav Rat#6490: https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/734769829940297801.gif?size=48
Scav Rat#6490: heres a beter alternative https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915091707152961536/190050-600x600.png
Alcyone#2233: I am that cold
Scav Rat#6490: didnt those cpu run in excess of 300w under heavy oc
Scav Rat#6490: litterlay cause power delivery on even some high end boards to pop
Alcyone#2233: It was close. Like 270-290w
Scav Rat#6490: that cpu litterlay pulls double my GPU
Scav Rat#6490: stock tdp with no boost was 220w
Scav Rat#6490: WHY THE FUCK IS THE TJ MAX 57*C
Atreea#2307: the bulldozer inside is bulldozing itself
Atreea#2307: :FeelsRetardedMan:
Scav Rat#6490: i dont touch that pc |
Scav Rat#6490: it goes till it dies
Atreea#2307: because bulldozer cpu measurement is from 0-255
Scav Rat#6490: when it dies we going ryzen
Atreea#2307: its not proper digits like intel or amd now
Scav Rat#6490: im 99% sure some fx series had TJ in excess of 100
Scav Rat#6490: also something with the reported temps being heavily inacturate
Atreea#2307: nah rubbish
Atreea#2307: amd spec for even the 9590 is 57
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd:
Scav Rat#6490: yeah but the reported temps where vastly different
Atreea#2307: yea because like what i mentioned before
Atreea#2307: only amd overdrive can measure the proper temps
JustinXenyx#8854: That's because the temp sensor reported bs that no program would properly read out
Atreea#2307: like xxx degrees from tjmax
Scav Rat#6490: see he gets it |
Scav Rat#6490: the temps where bullshit
Atreea#2307: hwinfo reporting 100+ deg
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd:
Atreea#2307: good old bulldozer
Atreea#2307: memes all round
Scav Rat#6490: peoples socket temps where in excells of 90
Scav Rat#6490: excess
JustinXenyx#8854: alternatively you also have hwinfo reporting 0c or like 20c at load
Atreea#2307: when you have to rely on socket temp because the cpu built in sensor makes 0 sense
Atreea#2307: :OmegaxD:
Scav Rat#6490: on my 8350 my idle and load temps dont change
Scav Rat#6490: they sit at 50-53
Scav Rat#6490: acording to icue
Atreea#2307: my nvme does that
Atreea#2307: it stays on 45 no matter what |
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd:
Scav Rat#6490: but the liquid in the aio is 64*
Atreea#2307: so i just slap a tiny heatsink on the controller
Scav Rat#6490: excuse me
Atreea#2307: nand hot = good
Atreea#2307: controller hot = bad
Atreea#2307: nand cold = bad
Scav Rat#6490: my hard drive is currently reporting 171*c
Atreea#2307: controller cold = good
Atreea#2307: :FeelsRetardedMan:
Atreea#2307: is it western digital
Scav Rat#6490: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915093860470910996/unknown.png
Scav Rat#6490: toshiba
Atreea#2307: oh
Atreea#2307: toshiba |
Scav Rat#6490: TOSHIBA DT01ACA100
Atreea#2307: :OmegaxD:
Scav Rat#6490: this thing is indestructable
Scav Rat#6490: liutterlah never turnbed off for 7 years
Atreea#2307: toshiba hdd dies easily wdym
Scav Rat#6490: with still very good perofmance
Scav Rat#6490: no bad secotrs
Atreea#2307: my toshiba hdd died from a psu ded scenario
Scav Rat#6490: and i know other people withb this exact drive reporting same findings as me
Atreea#2307: other hdd alive
Scav Rat#6490: nah
Scav Rat#6490: this thing wont die
Atreea#2307: then my hs pc uses toshiba, mid year it failed
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd:
Scav Rat#6490: its been on permenantly for like 5 years so issure |
Atreea#2307: well the longest lasting hdd i have is seagate
Atreea#2307: killed it like a retard tho
Atreea#2307: :FeelsRetardedMan:
Atreea#2307: dropped from table to floor
Atreea#2307: big oof
Scav Rat#6490: currently the reported power on hours is in excess of 2.5 years
Atreea#2307: imagine living 10 years for that shit to happen
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd:
Scav Rat#6490: i got a 3tb
Scav Rat#6490: but its resiliant to DBAN
Scav Rat#6490: it refuses to get rid of the partitions
Scav Rat#6490: so now i use it as a door stop
Atreea#2307: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915094500630741062/unknown.png
Atreea#2307: get on this hdd level
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd: |
Atreea#2307: 2nd pc hdd
Scav Rat#6490: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915094607019245608/unknown.png
Scav Rat#6490: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915094645632036904/unknown.png
Scav Rat#6490: ok
Atreea#2307: thats 2.5
Atreea#2307: this ones 5.5
Atreea#2307: :OmegaxD:
Scav Rat#6490: do you just not turn of your pc
Atreea#2307: why should i
Scav Rat#6490: clears cache allows updates ot regularly be instaled lets parts heat cycle rather then always be on less wear on motors
Atreea#2307: saves on off cycles
Atreea#2307: less heat cycles
Scav Rat#6490: yeah you have less cycles
Scav Rat#6490: and more hours
Scav Rat#6490: and i dont often turnb off my pc |
Atreea#2307: think of it as an airliner doing trans atlantic instead of city hopping
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd:
Atreea#2307: restard only on windows update
Atreea#2307: or windows going "im angery"
Scav Rat#6490: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915095211040989224/unknown.png
Scav Rat#6490: not sure how ive wrote 557gb
Scav Rat#6490: but sure
Scav Rat#6490: theres 2 games on this
Scav Rat#6490: its a brand new drive
Scav Rat#6490: never wiped
Scav Rat#6490: doesnt make sence
Atreea#2307: nice way to ruin ssd cycles man
Scav Rat#6490: ?
Atreea#2307: total host writes
Atreea#2307: did the joke fly over again |
Atreea#2307: :FeelsBadMan:
Scav Rat#6490: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915095533775892530/unknown.png
Scav Rat#6490: Β£15 amazon ssd
Scav Rat#6490: pny a good brand tho
Atreea#2307: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915095611374714890/unknown.png
Scav Rat#6490: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915095615812276294/unknown.png
Scav Rat#6490: Β£10 ssd from CEX
Atreea#2307: how many ssd did you throw on your system
Scav Rat#6490: 3
Atreea#2307: just get 1 massive 1tb nvme and call it a day
Scav Rat#6490: no...
Scav Rat#6490: why do that then im filling my boot drive
Scav Rat#6490: i got a boot drive
Atreea#2307: :FeelsRetardedMan:
Scav Rat#6490: a high performance game drive |
Atreea#2307: i split my nvme to 2
Atreea#2307: partitions
Scav Rat#6490: a smaller game drive that benefit from ssd like pubg
Scav Rat#6490: and a mass storage
Scav Rat#6490: i got 2 nvme m.2 ssds, 1 sata ssd and 1 sata HDD
Atreea#2307: :FeelsRetardedMan: id like another hdd tho
Scav Rat#6490: yeah same
Atreea#2307: another 3tb maybe
Scav Rat#6490: that corsair mp300 has had 12 copies of windows written to it
Scav Rat#6490: but if you download xbox games
Scav Rat#6490: and dont delete them before you reinstall os
Scav Rat#6490: you carnt uninstalle them
Scav Rat#6490: cause you dont have permisions to
Atreea#2307: ye
Scav Rat#6490: so there just sat oin there till i get the stuff i need off this drive and upgrade it |
Atreea#2307: tard microsoft code right there
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd:
Atreea#2307: have to reformat else it stays there
Scav Rat#6490: 300gb in copies of FH4 in there i think
Scav Rat#6490: it survived a reformate
Atreea#2307: :FightMe:
Atreea#2307: the fuck
Scav Rat#6490: the 3tb seagatre drive survuved DBAN
Scav Rat#6490: i carnt get rid of the paritions
Scav Rat#6490: not even a entire system dedicated to dban can help it
Scav Rat#6490: so i just use it as a door stop now
Atreea#2307: if this thermal paste fix the temp issue im getting hdd instead of aio
Atreea#2307: :FeelsRetardedMan:
Scav Rat#6490: toshiba *cough*
Atreea#2307: seagate had enough of your shit and alt-f4 its own bios |
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd:
Scav Rat#6490: oh shit speaking about bios
Scav Rat#6490: that fx system that does crackhead shit
Scav Rat#6490: it occasionly throws codes for missing bios
Scav Rat#6490: that system scares me
Scav Rat#6490: litterlay corrupts bios
Atreea#2307: reflash the bios
Atreea#2307: :FeelsRetardedMan:
Scav Rat#6490: nah bruh that board has a mind of its own
Atreea#2307: 3tb white label drives cost cheaper than an arctic freezer 34
Atreea#2307: :OmegaxD:
Atreea#2307: bro wtf
Scav Rat#6490: hdd mass storage is cheap
Atreea#2307: yea but not that cheap
Scav Rat#6490: it used to be 2x hdd for sata ssd and 2x sata ssd for m.2 |
Scav Rat#6490: now its 1.5x for sata ssd and hardly 1.5x for m.2
Scav Rat#6490: shits chea
Atreea#2307: im talking brand new
Atreea#2307: white label drives
Atreea#2307: or refurb idk its while label
Scav Rat#6490: refurb sounds about right
Scav Rat#6490: and so am i
Atreea#2307: $44 for 3tb
Scav Rat#6490: ssd storage is becoming not that much more expensive then hard drives
Atreea#2307: kek
Scav Rat#6490: average maybe a little low
Atreea#2307: 1tb nvme cost 3x 3tb hdd
Atreea#2307: >not that much more expensive
Atreea#2307: :FeelsRetardedMan:
Scav Rat#6490: yeah a nvme will cost a little over 2x |
Scav Rat#6490: sata ssd
Atreea#2307: so is sata man
Atreea#2307: they're just 10-15% cheaper
Scav Rat#6490: Β£80 for 1tb
Scav Rat#6490: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915098344043466803/unknown.png
Scav Rat#6490: 127 to put in 2 cables
Scav Rat#6490: lmao
Atreea#2307: 16tb :Bruhh:
Atreea#2307: what the hell are you trying to make? home server with the tiniest footprint
Atreea#2307: and no redundancy ?
Scav Rat#6490: nah i alraedy have a 32tb server 2x redundency
Scav Rat#6490: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915098962250321950/unknown.png
Scav Rat#6490: 18tb
Atreea#2307: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915119657227288586/20211130_125535.jpg
Atreea#2307: Well here it is |
Atreea#2307: Ignore the rainbow cake keyboard in the background
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd:
Atreea#2307: Made in taiwan
mando#9418: Very nice. Good luck to you and your thermals.
Atreea#2307: i used noctua guide
Atreea#2307: some shit in the middle
Atreea#2307: small dot ontop of the ccd
Atreea#2307: well it dropped 5 degrees :Xdxdxd:
Atreea#2307: that was worth aint it
Atreea#2307: freq cap at 3.9
Atreea#2307: well whatever
Atreea#2307: time for a new cooler
Atreea#2307: :FeelsRetardedMan:
π΄ππππ’π#2236: yep
Muse#0557: Injest |
Foxious#1859: Cough Esports 33 cough
Scav Rat#6490: how come you didnt go for the open back varient and large amp/dac for 32ohm headphones?
Scav Rat#6490: the k245 are pretty cheap and are full open backs and k240 studios are semi. even the a pair of k612 pros arnt a whole lot more expensive then taht
π΄ππππ’π#2236: In short? I'm broke and it's in an office I share with my dad, open backs would have too much noise bleed, and I was gonna go for a smaller amp and dac but this was in the loft already so I didn't have to pay anything
Scav Rat#6490: oh fair enoigh
Scav Rat#6490: open backs to beel in alot of sound
Scav Rat#6490: i like my k712pros but i mostl;y use my qc35 ii's cause anc is elite and my pc is loud as shit
D4V1D#9593: I turned on my pc from the socket
D4V1D#9593: It boots up, posts, and then shuts off
D4V1D#9593: Then works afterwards I turn it on again
D4V1D#9593: If I turned it off from the socket again I can show you
Scav Rat#6490: some mobo have a setting where it posts gives option to bios if not selected it reposts into OS
Scav Rat#6490: and dont turn off from socket
Scav Rat#6490: its ac power loss protection
Scav Rat#6490: also really bad for storage media |
Scav Rat#6490: my board does the same where if turned opff from scoket not from the power vutton it double posts and throws a error the first time but its just protection
D4V1D#9593: Oh okay
D4V1D#9593: My mum thinks it wastes energy so she turns it off from the socket lmfao
Scav Rat#6490: that is really bad for your drives
Scav Rat#6490: like really bad
Scav Rat#6490: also can cause premature wear of psu
Scav Rat#6490: shes gonna turn it off either way teach her how to do it properly
D4V1D#9593: My psu is like 6 years old and my mobo is like 7 years old
D4V1D#9593: So I don't think it's ac loss power thingy
Scav Rat#6490: yeah my psu is around 6 years old
Scav Rat#6490: do your mobo has protection
D4V1D#9593: Idk
Scav Rat#6490: its normal for it to double post after losing power unexpectidly
Scav Rat#6490: mine does it
D4V1D#9593: It doesnt |
D4V1D#9593: I have to manually turn it on again
Scav Rat#6490: just dont turn it off from the socket?
Scav Rat#6490: problem solved
Scav Rat#6490: https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/734769829940297801.gif?size=48
D4V1D#9593: Lol
D4V1D#9593: Also
D4V1D#9593: How is it bad for my drives
Scav Rat#6490: very
π΄ππππ’π#2236: exactly.
Scav Rat#6490: corruption, data loss, ruins performance of drives
D4V1D#9593: Yes but how
Scav Rat#6490: they leak in alot of sound but the soundstage they produce is far superiopr to any closed backs
Scav Rat#6490: i have both but mostly run closed backs because my headphones still sound really good with a decent soundstage but i like ANC
π΄ππππ’π#2236: Its pretty much a fact that open backs have a better soundstage
Scav Rat#6490: yeah |
Scav Rat#6490: better audio quality or noice cancellation
Scav Rat#6490: thats ya choice
Scav Rat#6490: most of what i do is play osu and the sound files from the game really can not take advantage of open backs
π΄ππππ’π#2236: I'd rather have the quality to be honest, but like i said i'm not in a position to sacrifice lack of noise bleed for it
Scav Rat#6490: but also still sound really good on decent headphones
Scav Rat#6490: yeah but thats the tradeoff
π΄ππππ’π#2236: Yeah
Scav Rat#6490: something like the k245 studios would be really good for you
Scav Rat#6490: semi open backs
Scav Rat#6490: or even the samson sr850
Scav Rat#6490: akg clones but still hav erespecatble audio apprently
π΄ππππ’π#2236: i was looking into the SR850, but went for the K52 based on it being on reduced
π΄ππππ’π#2236: to Β£25
Scav Rat#6490: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915276877562781736/unknown.png
Scav Rat#6490: the frequesncy response really isnt that bad |
Scav Rat#6490: little bit more on the high end but cheaper semi opens its kind aexpected
Scav Rat#6490: bass rolloff is still respectable
π΄ππππ’π#2236: Yeah, personally i preffer things to be flat, if i wanted to tweak it in an EQ i would
Scav Rat#6490: yeah
Scav Rat#6490: you like "reference headphones"
Scav Rat#6490: flat sound profile
π΄ππππ’π#2236: Yeah
π΄ππππ’π#2236: also the k245s are Β£71.28
Scav Rat#6490: k245 is opoen back
Scav Rat#6490: look at the k240 studios
π΄ππππ’π#2236: for that money i'd just go a bit further and get sony MDR-7506s, sure they're closed back but still
Scav Rat#6490: 53 and semi open back
Scav Rat#6490: you can get some k612 pro open backs for 100 atm
Scav Rat#6490: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915277937199161384/unknown.png
Scav Rat#6490: closed back 0 bass role off moment |
Scav Rat#6490: lmao
π΄ππππ’π#2236: ooh
Scav Rat#6490: top end just kinda doing its own thing tho
Scav Rat#6490: but for the type of music i like and what i use them foir there ace
Scav Rat#6490: also battery life after 2 years has virtually no degredation
Scav Rat#6490: im suprised
π΄ππππ’π#2236: They've got a detachable cable too (the k240s i mean)
Scav Rat#6490: have replaced ear cups 1 time and there used for multiple hours a day
π΄ππππ’π#2236: Battery? as in bluetooth?
Scav Rat#6490: yeah there wireless overears
π΄ππππ’π#2236: I'm not too fond of bluetooth stuff, i prefer things wired.
Scav Rat#6490: it has wired option
π΄ππππ’π#2236: I have in ears that are bluetooth but those are for on the go
Scav Rat#6490: but i like the flexabilityt of bluetooth
π΄ππππ’π#2236: Ah |
Scav Rat#6490: also the latency is pretty good to tbh
π΄ππππ’π#2236: Hmm
Scav Rat#6490: there still a port on it
Scav Rat#6490: yeah but some good semi open look at samson sr850 k240 studio or k240 mk2
Scav Rat#6490: the mk2 are identicle to studio except 2 cables and slightly confier
Scav Rat#6490: only Β£10 more
π΄ππππ’π#2236: Hmm
π΄ππππ’π#2236: I don't get why some people have an issue with having 2 cables
Scav Rat#6490: personnaly i prefer 1
Scav Rat#6490: but i could live with 2
π΄ππππ’π#2236: i'd be fine with it, only issue i see is it could get tangled
Scav Rat#6490: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915279201777623050/AKG-K240-Studio-fr.png
Scav Rat#6490: alot of bass rolloff
Scav Rat#6490: decent top end
π΄ππππ’π#2236: i was just about to say |
Scav Rat#6490: but at this price point its kinda hard to get away from that
π΄ππππ’π#2236: Yeah
Scav Rat#6490: dt 770 pro are around 110 atm
Scav Rat#6490: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915279712090198026/Beyerdynamic-DT-770-PRO-frequency-response-HATS-SoundGuys-Studio-Curve-V2.png
Scav Rat#6490: this is the 80 ohm studio model
π΄ππππ’π#2236: That's a bit of a stretch for me, but for DT 770 Pros?
Scav Rat#6490: not too bad bas rolloff and a strong top end
Scav Rat#6490: closed back
π΄ππππ’π#2236: I'd probably have to use an amp with that impedance, right?
Scav Rat#6490: no lol
π΄ππππ’π#2236: No?
π΄ππππ’π#2236: It'd be fine?
Scav Rat#6490: most modern mother board can do everything up to 150 ohm
Scav Rat#6490: hell mine does up to "600"
π΄ππππ’π#2236: Oh, nice |
Scav Rat#6490: your impedance doesnt necceserily mean how hard it is to run
π΄ππππ’π#2236: Well yes i know that
Scav Rat#6490: akg are very hard to drive
Scav Rat#6490: but DTs are pretty easy in retrospec
π΄ππππ’π#2236: Ah
Scav Rat#6490: you can run them riught out of a pc
Scav Rat#6490: phone not really
Scav Rat#6490: small sound differnece if ran with amp
Scav Rat#6490: it dont hurt to use it
π΄ππππ’π#2236: Thinkpad Dock? i mean i'm pretty sure it uses the same built in dac and amp as the thinkpad itself and just replicates it, despite being a seperate audio device
π΄ππππ’π#2236: Might as well then, since its out on the desk
Scav Rat#6490: studios heaphones @ 80 ohm and below can be used pretty much out of everything
Scav Rat#6490: if its a hsasel it aint worth it
Scav Rat#6490: peopel have ran them out of fucking dell aspires from the 2000s
π΄ππππ’π#2236: I need to rearrange things so i can actually move my mouse though lol |
Scav Rat#6490: yeah haha
Scav Rat#6490: i doubt your going to be runnng them at stupidly high volumes anyways
π΄ππππ’π#2236: I thought aspire was Acer?
π΄ππππ’π#2236: Or am i being stupid here...
Scav Rat#6490: thats what i meant
Scav Rat#6490: im a ape
π΄ππππ’π#2236: Lol
π΄ππππ’π#2236: Yeah no, i run these at -25DB
Scav Rat#6490: yeah so you will be good
Scav Rat#6490: tbh
Scav Rat#6490: if your only running rthese out your pc
Scav Rat#6490: and you do have a amp
Scav Rat#6490: just get the 250 ohm model
Scav Rat#6490: same price lmao
π΄ππππ’π#2236: Oh? |
π΄ππππ’π#2236: might do then
Scav Rat#6490: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915281141827797022/unknown.png
π΄ππππ’π#2236: like i said it's a bit of a price splurge, but its DT 770 pros
π΄ππππ’π#2236: and i already have a good experience with beyerdynamic, even if its my super low end DT231s
Scav Rat#6490: if you really really want to spend
Scav Rat#6490: 180 for qc35 ii rn
π΄ππππ’π#2236: (i think thats the number off the top of my head)
π΄ππππ’π#2236: Bit much
Scav Rat#6490: yeah fair rnough
Scav Rat#6490: you can pick them un refirb fdor like 100-110
Scav Rat#6490: solid headphones
Scav Rat#6490: and ex inudstry leading ANC
Scav Rat#6490: when i first got the,m the sound isolation was insane
Scav Rat#6490: but the new updates turned it down to improve "cabin pressure"
Scav Rat#6490: been looking for a way to go back but u carnt |
π΄ππππ’π#2236: Pain
Scav Rat#6490: sont wh-1000xm3 are 160 rn
Scav Rat#6490: thats a insane price fi you want really good audio closed backs
Scav Rat#6490: i would rather have them over my qc35 iis
π΄ππππ’π#2236: okay i need to move shit, having the massive headphone wire in the way of my keyboard is annoying
π΄ππππ’π#2236: aren't those bluetooth? they're the predecessors to the WH-1000 XM4s right?
Scav Rat#6490: yeah
Scav Rat#6490: really good audio for 160
Scav Rat#6490: and anc
π΄ππππ’π#2236: Hm
Scav Rat#6490: usb c
Scav Rat#6490: good battery
Atreea#2307: My 2nd pc is whack
Atreea#2307: If i reboot it sometimes it says new cpu inserted or smth
Atreea#2307: Thermal cycling smh |
Atreea#2307: 33 doesnt exist, 34 cost more than aio, so i went with aio :Xdxdxd: both are more than enough for a 3600 anyway
Atreea#2307: besides aio gets the advantage of cool air from the front of the case
Foxious#1859: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915412497639559208/maxresdefault.png
Foxious#1859: 33
Atreea#2307: i mean it doesnt exist here
Foxious#1859: fair enough
Foxious#1859: the 33 is really good value here
Atreea#2307: its 34 or gtfo basically
Foxious#1859: the 33 is just 43 euros
Atreea#2307: and i decide to gtfo and get a 240mm aio
Foxious#1859: so well cheaper than any aio
Foxious#1859: well actually
Foxious#1859: the 3**4** that i have only cost 32 euros
Foxious#1859: because its not a duo
Atreea#2307: sir asian brands are something else when it comes to price |
Foxious#1859: keeps my 9400f ridiculously cool
Foxious#1859: just remember that cheap aios are frankly shit
Foxious#1859: they wont last longer than 5 years usually
Atreea#2307: still better than this pos cooler im using
Foxious#1859: yes but the 33 non duo is cheaper than cheap aios and works
Atreea#2307: i like taking chances, i used chinese built custom loop
Atreea#2307: i just cant be arsed to maintain it
Foxious#1859: you a yank?
Atreea#2307: so i went back to the old cooler
Atreea#2307: yea but it doesnt exist here
Atreea#2307: haloh
Foxious#1859: haloh?
Foxious#1859: Hawaiian?
Atreea#2307: in china the aio cost $28, here it cost $39
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd: |
Atreea#2307: comes with a warranty so idc
Foxious#1859: eh just seems a bit stupid
Atreea#2307: its rated for 200w tdp
Atreea#2307: like every other 240mm
Foxious#1859: then again, if you cant get a non duo then what im to say
Atreea#2307: i could have gone with pcooler
Foxious#1859: would only cost 36 bucks
Atreea#2307: way cheaper and is good for ryzen
Atreea#2307: but i just have to get the aio swag do i :FeelsRetardedMan:
Atreea#2307: i mean the aio cost $40 rounded up, the arctic 34 is 47.5
Atreea#2307: ill take my chances
Atreea#2307: ~~oh and it has argb~~
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd:
Atreea#2307: reviews on the cooler is ok when i checked on both cn marketplace and here
Atreea#2307: except that one guy whos complaining high idle temps but low load temps |
Atreea#2307: :FeelsRetardedMan:
Atreea#2307: isnt that AIO in general
Scav Rat#6490: @Atreea your Indonesian right
Alcyone#2233: No aio will last more than about 5 years
Alcyone#2233: You can't mix metals and never change the coolant. It will always fail
Scav Rat#6490: I really donβt think it will last even that
Scav Rat#6490: Your taking one hell of a risk on a Β£40 aio
Atreea#2307: my torn apart and rebuilt thermaltake 3.0 block is still alive after all that nonsense
Atreea#2307: the impeller motor in theory should be impossible to break
Atreea#2307: since the magnets that drive the motor are outside, not touching the water while the motor core itself is the one inside the aio
Atreea#2307: i dont use it because i cant clean the damn block anymore
Scav Rat#6490: Lower quality bearings or even maybe bushings will wear faster
Atreea#2307: aio is all water suspended though
Scav Rat#6490: Also the risk of a leak is small but significantly higher
Alcyone#2233: In theory. Just saying there aren't reddit threads about people's air coolers dying or leaking |
Scav Rat#6490: Within the motor itself
Atreea#2307: ???
Scav Rat#6490: Also the air cooler had better cooling capacity
Scav Rat#6490: Your taking a massive risk with that cheap of a water cooler
Atreea#2307: its a risk im willing to take
Atreea#2307: cause corsair shit cost 3x this
Scav Rat#6490: If a air cooler fails it doesnβt matter
Scav Rat#6490: Corsair AIOs are doodoo
Scav Rat#6490: If a aio fails it could take out your entire system
Atreea#2307: aio design principle is the same anyway, floating impeller with its own magnet inside and a small bar that keeps it on its place
Atreea#2307: and the whole impeller circuit outside the water
Atreea#2307: inside the casing of the block
Scav Rat#6490: The motor is still a moving part and has a bushing/bearing and a dynamic seals
Scav Rat#6490: All potential points of failure
Atreea#2307: yes buts its a "dumb" moving part |
Atreea#2307: everything else is outside the water
Scav Rat#6490: A moving part is a moving part I can guarantee a Β£40 aio wont have a good hydraulic bearing for the output shaft
Scav Rat#6490: If one at all
Scav Rat#6490: Itβs prob a bushing onto a dynamic seal
Atreea#2307: you can say i told you so next year then
Scav Rat#6490: We may
Scav Rat#6490: We may not
Atreea#2307: cause im taking the chance
Scav Rat#6490: But thatβs the risk
Scav Rat#6490: @Atreea can you check a price on a i5-6500 in ruppee
Scav Rat#6490: On ur same day shop thingy
JimmyJoogleNugget#4633: cheapest aio i can find is id-cooling frostflow x 120 for 35 usd :Hahahahaha:
Scav Rat#6490: The idea of a low quality aio is just a no go imo
JimmyJoogleNugget#4633: true
Scav Rat#6490: Your putting your entire trust not to brick your system |
Scav Rat#6490: In cheap parts
JimmyJoogleNugget#4633: water cooling and cheap doesn't go together
Scav Rat#6490: Most of the time
Atreea#2307: id cooling
Scav Rat#6490: I only paid Β£45 for my custom loop
Atreea#2307: i mean theyre trustworthy
Atreea#2307: they were around when amd launched ryzen and was one of the showcase in their launch event too back then
Atreea#2307: how do i know? because i went there in 2017 :Xdxdxd:
Scav Rat#6490: Still tho
JimmyJoogleNugget#4633: oooh nicee
Scav Rat#6490: Low cost parts
Scav Rat#6490: Are gonna be low quality
Atreea#2307: as if asetek shit is high quality
Scav Rat#6490: Got the rad, pump/res and water block free but water block was bad so bought a Β£20 water block some tubing and some EK cryofuel
Scav Rat#6490: Getting rid of the block ASAP |
Atreea#2307: i was looking for reviews yesterday and i found this :Xdxdxd:
Atreea#2307: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/915419903970906162/unknown.png
Atreea#2307: what is wrong with this picture
Scav Rat#6490: Coolmoonβ οΈ
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd:
Scav Rat#6490: Bottom fans ainβt on
Atreea#2307: nah look at the front
Scav Rat#6490: WHERE THE GPU AT
Atreea#2307: wheres the fan facing
Atreea#2307: :Xdxdxd:
Scav Rat#6490: Oh shot
Scav Rat#6490: THERE BACKWARDS
Scav Rat#6490: π
Scav Rat#6490: Also fans inside the case???
Scav Rat#6490: Well |
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