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Resune#9806: stable in firestrike and timespy with 99.3% frame stability
MShaw09#5412: Welp I did the washer mod with thermal paste and my temps are the same
Fitz#8200: "fine"
Fitz#8200: 95c+ on gddr6 isnt fine
Raudi Raccoon#6691: My Pascal cards both did over 2250 on mem.
Raudi Raccoon#6691: Corse seemed to be limited... |
Fitz#8200: if you want flat freq, you need temps sub 49c
Abydos#0267: I'm new to overclocking and was wondering if any here has overclocked and undervolted an rx 570
Abydos#0267: Specifically the Gigabyte Gaming 4gb 570
∫ntegral#0450: i have a nitro+ 570
∫ntegral#0450: and he's gone lol
4a61636b#5675: lol
Sarissa#2345:... |
Sarissa#2345: I'm worried if I put it to 100% on all loads my cpu might uh.. Overheat the system or something.. I overclocked my cpu even tho its using stock cooler u see..
Cancerogeno#1786: Don't think cpu can suffer from that you're not adding more heat that need to be dissipated
Cancerogeno#1786: Try it yourself and... |
vf curve like this seems to make most pascal hold 1.093. first block on the flat line is 1.09v
pkkshadow#5844: @kururucrazy2 try updating the gpu driver to a more recent one.
1. download DDU from : <https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html>
2. download a more recent gpu driver fro... |
run 1080 medium and test to see if it crashes.
pkkshadow#5844: as well as play other games to see if it'll crash.
kururucrazy2#2336: alright thanks for the help time for testing
pkkshadow#5844: you're welcome 😄
kururucrazy2#2336: 🙏
kururucrazy2#2336: Hmm it crashed after i set core clock to 1250 and mem clock to 1650... |
kona#9246: one of my cards on the preliminary round of testing went up to +75, the other went up to +95, everything stock
kona#9246: the second one did manage to max out the memory slider tho
Cyb3r#2495: Hitting 130 on my strix
Cyb3r#2495: +1000 on mem
Cyb3r#2495: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305981966292090... |
Raudi Raccoon#6691: Which is what my fermi experience is with.
Matthew#3854: i guess my msi 470 didnt
Matthew#3854: so did all fermi cards have voltage adjustment?
Raudi Raccoon#6691: They should, but you need to be careful with voltage. Is it a reference board card?
Matthew#3854: yea msi brand with reference board des... |
milk tea matt#8834: with +30 offset
Resune#9806: my memory is doing 9.2MT/s right now, I gotta keep testing, I've had no time since I got the card
Resune#9806: but this memory owns on this 1070
Resune#9806: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305981966292090881/612467657697918976/unknown.png
4a61636b#5675: Mine doe... |
Betrayed#3582: but the average card should do like 2050-2100
X18SHADOW / KAGE#0893: triple slot air card
Betrayed#3582: silicon lottery means the card itself doesn't matter
X18SHADOW / KAGE#0893: ok?
Fitz#8200: I'm starting to think you dont understand what silicon lottery actually means
Resune#9806: Cooling matters a ... |
UNKNOWN 404#2451: but when i run gpu-z stress test it run good
UNKNOWN 404#2451: what is the problem ?
Fitz#8200: Dont ise gpuz stress test, since it isnt as stressful as your game
UNKNOWN 404#2451: my gpu on the stress run on 2.1 ghz
UNKNOWN 404#2451: OC scanner is not good ?
RedHairyGorilla#0290: just ran MSI OC scan... |
RedHairyGorilla#0290: Superposition then?
Fitz#8200: Better than occt
RedHairyGorilla#0290: alrighty then, downloading it now
RedHairyGorilla#0290: thanks for your time
Fitz#8200: Np
Fitz#8200: Instead of hitting voltage limit for gpu boost, you're hitting power limit
RedHairyGorilla#0290: interesting
RedHairyGorilla#0... |
Fitz#8200: Maybe bad drivers? You should be seeing 5-6k at least
Resune#9806: you need to check your utilizations
Resune#9806: but sounds like giga fucked OS and or drivers
RedHairyGorilla#0290: damn
RedHairyGorilla#0290: just got 4200 score and that's with +200mhz
RedHairyGorilla#0290: I'll try reinstalling driver, wh... |
ExcellentEdamame#4378: I mean its pretty good tbh
Resune#9806: dud core in terms of overclocking
ExcellentEdamame#4378: yeah
Resune#9806: not above 50th percentile = dud
Fitz#8200: Its 500 pts higher than my 5700xt, and used 30-40% more power
ExcellentEdamame#4378: the 5700 XT doesn't really do as well as I'd hoped in ... |
Resune#9806: check your utilizations, something might be up like vsync
Resune#9806: like forced vsync
Resune#9806: or g-sync, something of the sort
RedHairyGorilla#0290: utilization is 100% and g-sync off
RedHairyGorilla#0290: still 4200 score
Resune#9806: how many pci-e lanes do you have?
Resune#9806: to that gpu?
Red... |
Resune#9806: yup that 1080ti is performing like my 1070
RedHairyGorilla#0290: so it's a bad card?
Resune#9806: that's not anywhere near how your 1080ti should be performing even at absolute bone stock
RedHairyGorilla#0290: okay, I'll contact EVGA and see what they say
RedHairyGorilla#0290: thanks for the help, hopefull... |
RedHairyGorilla#0290: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/evga-gtx-1080-ti-ftw3-w-icx-cooler.b4315
RedHairyGorilla#0290: trying to find where I can show max
∫ntegral#0450: click the upside down triangle
∫ntegral#0450: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305981966292090881/612808698049462272/unknown.png
RedHairyGo... |
RedHairyGorilla#0290: yes sir
Fitz#8200: it should be around 300w for 1080 extreme
RedHairyGorilla#0290: damn
RedHairyGorilla#0290: emailed evga support, hopefuly they can figure something out or replace the card for me
keeph8n#0369: Sounds like flashing the bios should be fine. Have you flipped the bios switch? Tested... |
Betrayed#3582: My 1080 does that
Betrayed#3582: without any real LOD tweaks
Fitz#8200: its 1070/ti performance
Betrayed#3582: nah
Betrayed#3582: that's around 1080 / 1070ti
Betrayed#3582: using just the control panel for tweaks on my 1080 I did around 4350
Betrayed#3582: at around 2050mhz
K4CP3R#3848: i got my 1660 ove... |
Betrayed#3582: in my experience on my 1080
Betrayed#3582: the xoc bios fucks the mem timings
RedHairyGorilla#0290: what the hell?
Betrayed#3582: and that ruins performance
RedHairyGorilla#0290: I never mined ever in my life
Betrayed#3582: and the driver no like it
Betrayed#3582: did you buy the card used?
RedHairyGoril... |
Fitz#8200: yeah
Fitz#8200: did the cooler say ftw3 on it, or just have a bar?
RedHairyGorilla#0290: ftw3
whiteshark#1560: he already tried 2 bioses, didnt he?
Fitz#8200: https://hexus.net/media/uploaded/2017/5/6228b0b5-6309-400a-abd5-f5d217ffce94.jpg shows ftw3 there?
Betrayed#3582: <https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios... |
Betrayed#3582: ftw3 cards
Betrayed#3582: yeah your GPU is clocking super high, with low voltage, while using the wrong power limit
Fitz#8200: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/201451/evga-gtx1080ti-11264-180309 I'd use this one since its the latest one, and has the 358w limit
RedHairyGorilla#0290: okay
RedHairyGorill... |
RedHairyGorilla#0290: having an issue with nvflash in command prompt
RedHairyGorilla#0290: I have 64-bit windows and it keeps saying system32 in command prompt
RedHairyGorilla#0290: it won't let me use nvflash 64bit
∫ntegral#0450: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305981966292090881/612823741067427850/Add_ShiftOp... |
Fitz#8200: superposition improve?
RedHairyGorilla#0290: Doesn’t look like it
RedHairyGorilla#0290: 185w max draw
RedHairyGorilla#0290: https://i.imgur.com/a7B3UQo.png
RedHairyGorilla#0290: https://i.imgur.com/LCEKC7M.png
RedHairyGorilla#0290: Anything else I should try or just wait for evga support to respond back?
Red... |
Deleted User#0000: GIGABYTE AORUS GeForce RTX 2060 XTREME 6G Graphics Card, 3 x Stacked WINDFORCE Fans, 6GB 192-Bit GDDR6, GV-N2060AORUS X-6GC REV2.0 Video Card
ExcellentEdamame#4378: @TruxRobJ Turing ftw
Deleted User#0000: Think it's Worth
Deleted User#0000: 588
Fitz#8200: turing 🤢
Deleted User#0000: So no lol
Fitz#8... |
Deleted User#0000: Looks small in the pic
Deleted User#0000: ASUS GeForce GTX 1080 FE DirectX 12 GTX1080-8G 8GB 256-Bit GDDR5X PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card Founders Edition
Deleted User#0000: Just gunna get that instead
4a61636b#5675: Imo you could have said 1080 fe
Deleted User#0000: Hahah yeah I ... |
Resune#9806: Bandwidth wise
Resune#9806: I’m at 9.5gb/s on my Sammy gddr5
Resune#9806: Running timespy loops
Resune#9806: 9.6gb/s in timespy loops no artifacts
Resune#9806: @adi769 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305981966292090881/613042068385955854/unknown.png
adi769#6854: UwU What's This
adi769#6854: XD
Resun... |
adi769#6854: `307.5GB/s` but that's not 9.6
adi769#6854: :ThinkCrash:
Resune#9806: 2400 x 4
adi769#6854: *oh*
adi769#6854: what does your core do?
Resune#9806: 2075 and eventually clocks down to 2050 if it gets warm enough in my room
Resune#9806: but I haven't spent a long time on the core
adi769#6854: heh
Resune#9806:... |
adi769#6854: what a mess https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305981966292090881/613048173425983553/unknown.png
Resune#9806: Working on the core a bit more now, trying 2060-2085
adi769#6854: well this is what I *can* do daily, I just usually run my undervolt https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305981966292090881/6... |
1060 = 1800MHz at 900mV, around-2000MHz max
1050 = 1700MHz at 900mV, around 1920-1980MHz max
adi769#6854: so the "lower core GPUs do higher frequency easier" is flipped for our PCs lol
adi769#6854: and idk, it doesn't sound like a bad deal but idk what's considered good today
Resune#9806: I’ll have to revisit my oc whe... |
Resune#9806: ranges 2050-2062mhz
Fitz#8200: that's a rip
Resune#9806: yeah the memory really owns on this card it's a shame the core isn't any better
Fitz#8200: low key stoked that new amd driver update gave me 30mhz on my mem lmao
Fitz#8200: iirc the mem on my 1070ti really only helped in benchmarks, with like 1% impr... |
Resune#9806: it's a wash if you have a 1080ti
Resune#9806: no reason to swap tbh
RedHairyGorilla#0290: Yeah
Fitz#8200: Red has a dud 1080ti
RedHairyGorilla#0290: This
Fitz#8200: that 180w max power draw lmao
RedHairyGorilla#0290: By the way, Evga emailed me back, they want me to run firestrike benchmark. Apparently, th... |
RedHairyGorilla#0290: You’re guaranteed to beat my 1080ti lol
Fitz#8200: Yeah, I was comparing to my old one
Fitz#8200: This 5700xt is a pita to bench because it'll spike to 2600mhz during a scene transition and sometimes crash it
RedHairyGorilla#0290: Interesting
teatime#3449: Wait, 5700XT is competitive with 1080Ti?
... |
teatime#3449: I'm just waiting for an AMD product that bests the 1080Ti
Betrayed#3582: 1080ti performance is a good metric
ExcellentEdamame#4378: @teatime ehh
Betrayed#3582: a 1080ti level performance for $400 is a solid card
ExcellentEdamame#4378: I think AMDs drivers hold them back tbh
ExcellentEdamame#4378: Bfv is A... |
Betrayed#3582: so unless you own both cards
teatime#3449: I don't care about synthetic benchmarks
Betrayed#3582: its impossible to directly compare
Fitz#8200: its just a tad behind in gaming benchmarks, and far ahead in compute benchmarks
teatime#3449: I mean real scenario based performance
teatime#3449: ah ok
Fitz#820... |
Fitz#8200: I went from 1080ti to 5700xt, and I prefer the xt
Resune#9806: dx 11, dx 12, vulkan, etc
Betrayed#3582: older unreal games using dx9 are gonna be more of a cpu benchmark
ExcellentEdamame#4378: I had stuttering in Source games which was pretty dissapointing.
ExcellentEdamame#4378: Stuttering in unreal too
Red... |
Aaron Hollenbeck#3486: I dont think so
Aaron Hollenbeck#3486: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PxTvIRtAbA
9900K @ 5ghz
Aaron Hollenbeck#3486: 1080 ti beats 5700 XT in basically every title at 1080p
Aaron Hollenbeck#3486: there are a few outliers of course
Aaron Hollenbeck#3486: games on vulkan or frostbite engines will... |
RedHairyGorilla#0290: Right now it’s pulling 150w with TDP at 102%
Resune#9806: sounds like a reference card
RedHairyGorilla#0290: Yep it is
RedHairyGorilla#0290: I just doing a process of elimination to see if the 1080ti is really the culprit for low power draw. Just making sure it’s not the cables, psu, or motherboar... |
Betrayed#3582: Temperature
Betrayed#3582: If you manually set the V/F curve
Betrayed#3582: That's at the temperature you set it at
Betrayed#3582: So if you are within the thermal throttle area of GPU Boost (IIRC above 55C), it'll change when you drop below that
Resune#9806: so fuckin dumb it's 55c, should be 65C
Austin... |
Betrayed#3582: it might be updating itself when you change the mem freq
Austin#6319: for a different temperature?
Betrayed#3582: ye
Betrayed#3582: idk I never use the V/F curve for a daily system
Betrayed#3582: only to push out another 12mhz for a benchmark
Resune#9806: my core is sad :( https://cdn.discordapp.com/atta... |
Resune#9806: the AMP extreme is zotac's flagship tier, it always does pretty well
Fitz#8200: Does zotac bin their chips?
Resune#9806: uhhh kinda
Resune#9806: my zotac amp extreme core edition 970 did 1504mhz on core and 1988mhz on mem
Resune#9806: pretty solid core and okay mem
Resune#9806: this 1070 amp extreme has an... |
Betrayed#3582: He probably just gets to bin the best of the best
Betrayed#3582: and then give them out to people
Betrayed#3582: but like I think Luumi's retail 2080ti KPE managed like 2800mhz
Betrayed#3582: pretty bad mem
Fitz#8200: Retail 2080ti kp?
Betrayed#3582: ye
Betrayed#3582: on the 2080ti mem is king
Betrayed#3... |
RedHairyGorilla#0290: thanks
Betrayed#3582: GDDR5X is micron
RedHairyGorilla#0290: ewww Micron...
Betrayed#3582: Thanks discord
Betrayed#3582: All gddr5x is micron
RedHairyGorilla#0290: oh
xlen#6206: I mean GDDR5X does fairly well
Interrobang#1660: i got a xfx GTs rx 580 thats doing like, 1500mhz if I push it, on it's ... |
xlen#6206: if you get a better cooler, then yes it is
MShaw09#5412: can i pull off a small oc on the blower tho
MShaw09#5412: rn i max at 70c which seems pretty good
Fitz#8200: what unlock mod?
xlen#6206: he is talking about power mod
MShaw09#5412: Ok 1900mhz with +50% power is pretty stable
MShaw09#5412: But like 1fps... |
Ssateneth#7162: another one failed in almost the exact same way in the same area
Ssateneth#7162: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305981966292090881/613492878014021652/PC290306.JPG
RedHairyGorilla#0290: RMA approved for my shit 1080ti lol
RedHairyGorilla#0290: gonna rock the 970 until my replacement gets here
Ss... |
Resune#9806: yeah buildzoid, that's a 970
Resune#9806: specifically an evga SSC
Incindium#9113: holy cow look at the difference from just memory overclock with my 3900x on TimeSpy
Incindium#9113: https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/8222258/spy/7940997#
Incindium#9113: the slower one was stock before chipset drivers and ... |
Ssateneth#7162: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305981966292090881/613671201868480512/PC280300.JPG
Ssateneth#7162: last one I can find for now.
Ssateneth#7162: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305981966292090881/613671351886282753/PC280303.JPG
Ssateneth#7162: i've seen a lot of GPU's that had severe burn... |
whiteshark#1560: source here : https://www.servethehome.com/zotac-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-twin-fan-review/3/
Deleted User#0000: What is a good upgrade from a 1060 3gb ? Can get a few cards in town but not sure what to get rather a blower style fan could of got the 1080 FE but isn't that outdated and not sure on the coolin... |
Resune#9806: scalping is gonna be annoying for aib cards
Fitz#8200: yeah
Deleted User#0000: MSI 1070ti duke good or a 1080 mini don't really want to wait lol just wants a quick improvement
ExcellentEdamame#4378: @Deleted User I'd go with the 1080
Deleted User#0000: Ok cause I can get a 1080 FE for 425 rn
Deleted User#0... |
ExcellentEdamame#4378: Nvidia just wins when it comes to power and thermals.
Fitz#8200: 5700xt does not reach 95c stock gpu temp
Fitz#8200: maybe if you taped over the intake it would
Fitz#8200: the 95c that reviewers say is hotspot temp, and nvidia cards dont report it
Fitz#8200: edge temp on 5700xt at stock in benchm... |
NeptuneIX#7466: yea
NeptuneIX#7466: how about 1050
pkkshadow#5844: sure. hopefully it works.
NeptuneIX#7466: alright
ExcellentEdamame#4378: @Fitz https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305981966292090881/613828362187702273/20190803_195443_HDR.jpg
NeptuneIX#7466: i mean asic quality is fine
NeptuneIX#7466: in cases of c... |
NeptuneIX#7466: the thought of stuff like that scares me
NeptuneIX#7466: i mean my xfx 580 has good vrms, bullzoid even complimented em
NeptuneIX#7466: so :GWbruhShrekThonk:
pkkshadow#5844: it'll be fine. my card has suffered a lot of crashes from not giving enough voltage during oc runs. and is still kicking.
NeptuneI... |
that and some benchmarks as well. superposition or 3d mark demo
NeptuneIX#7466: ive heard that benchmarks go easy on the gpu
NeptuneIX#7466: thats what everyone says online
Resune#9806: Timespy is pretty damned good
NeptuneIX#7466: well easy in terms of
NeptuneIX#7466: testing for stability
NeptuneIX#7466: witcher 3 wo... |
Resune#9806: 🤷 I've seen issues show up 30-40 minutes later after I started playing games
NeptuneIX#7466: probably cus of poor quality VRMs on the gpu itself
NeptuneIX#7466: bullzoid reviewed my card and he complimented it on its VRMs
Resune#9806: good for you
NeptuneIX#7466: well yea ofc
NeptuneIX#7466: thats why i c... |
Resune#9806: it's taking the GPU out of spec
NeptuneIX#7466: tbh man
NeptuneIX#7466: 1050mv with 1301mhz isnt something
NeptuneIX#7466: that i should care about that much that id test for hours
NeptuneIX#7466: if it was 1v with this i can agree
Fitz#8200: this server should just be r/PushingThingsOutOfSpec
NeptuneIX#74... |
Ssateneth#7162: Wow I didnt know navi had no crossfire. well then.
Ssateneth#7162: @NeptuneIX i really wouldnt worry about it. just set your sliders to what works for you.. don't stress the outliers or let some hidden offset bug you. it's just a number.
NeptuneIX#7466: yh but im just wonderin
Fitz#8200: who actually st... |
NeptuneIX#7466: i mean i placed about an hour of witcher 3, safe to say it pushed it
NeptuneIX#7466: im happy w/ temps
NeptuneIX#7466: ive got ANC headphones, and before my fan curve was way too high cus it got too hot
NeptuneIX#7466: but now w/ a more quieter fan curve
NeptuneIX#7466: i literally get low to mid 70s
Ss... |
iench#4729: I'm currently improving GPU:3D, it'll be even tougher than it is now
Ssateneth#7162: are you OCCT dev?
iench#4729: i'm getting a 20W increase in load on my GTX1070
iench#4729: yes
NeptuneIX#7466: @Ssateneth whats ur mhz and mv
NeptuneIX#7466: w ur 470
Ssateneth#7162: Not a miner @NeptuneIX jsut putting it o... |
iench#4729: Yes, GPU:3D window has to have the focus for the load to work, unlike Furmark. That's a directX-based issue i think
iench#4729: I may be able to circumvent that in newer versions though
iench#4729: i'm so used to it happening that i don't really care - plus it is always better to test in fullscreen
iench#47... |
Fitz#8200: its really doesnt
Ssateneth#7162: installing new 19.8.1 drivers
NeptuneIX#7466: mm
NeptuneIX#7466: what about asic quality?
NeptuneIX#7466: mine's 75.8%
Fitz#8200: asic quality is of the gpu silicon
Fitz#8200: you can get maybe 10-20mhz more with bare minimum vrms vs massively overkill
Ssateneth#7162: i don'... |
sen#3300: Vapors a win win for me since I love the aesthetics of it
Ssateneth#7162: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305981966292090881/613874435753115654/explorer_2019-08-21_18-16-34.png
Ssateneth#7162: GPU hard throttles at 115C VRM 😛
iench#4729: @Ssateneth Just found it, the rendering speed now stays the sam... |
Ssateneth#7162: i've had GPU's be fine with 8 hours superposition, and furmark, but crash to a black screen on OCCT -on stock settings-
Fitz#8200: if its a fuzzy donut, its a power virus
iench#4729: I'll tell my kids that when they watch Monster Inc., they're looking at a power virus
iench#4729: since out base algorith... |
iench#4729: @Ssateneth go to https://www.ocbase.com/ , download latest beta, run GPU:3D, in windowed mode (the small red button next to the resolution), and tell me if it slows down when out of focus 🙂
iench#4729: you've made it to the changelog as well
iench#4729: "GPU:3D : No longer slows down when its window gets o... |
Ssateneth#7162: about a factor of 5.3x slower fps
iench#4729: Jumpy ?
Ssateneth#7162: should lead to less CPU usage
iench#4729: that was the goal, even if the CPU usage is really 'please, GPU, draw the next frame" without doing anything
Ssateneth#7162: I can't run fast GPU's on my older bulldozer testing rig because ut... |
Ssateneth#7162: Anyways, unfocused OCCT GPU 3D working good.
Raudi Raccoon#6691: Curious though if it can maintain rendering speed with cfx if window isn't in focus.
iench#4729: That's worth a try 🙂
Ssateneth#7162: GPU is still just as unhappy with VRM's, so looks good
iench#4729: Thanks for the confirmation @Ssatenet... |
Deleted User#0000: Can anyone help tried to OC the 1080 and now my PC freezes and the screen goes like green and shit
Deleted User#0000: ??
Deleted User#0000: Any solutions
Fitz#8200: probably unstable, and you might have set it to apply overclocks at startup
Deleted User#0000: Yeah and had to delete MSI burner
Resune#... |
Incindium#9113: think I will call that a night
Fitz#8200: change level of detail to something really low and run it again lol
Fitz#8200: although 300 points might be hard to catch
Incindium#9113: top score is running GPU memory 130Mhz higher than me
Incindium#9113: my CPU score is already 4.4% better... I think I can s... |
Deleted User#0000: kryonaut vertical
LTS#4314: coolio
punkrr#0009: are there any tools I can use to get a log file of all my usages, etc. at the time of a crash?
Ssateneth#7162: @LTS the difference in temperature will be negligible. you're already water cooling it. you won't see any meaningful OC gains one way or the o... |
Resune#9806: No nvidia didn't downgrade pascal cards with the newest driver
Resune#9806: if anything I get better performance
UNKNOWN 404#2451: i was getting higher score in unigine benchmark
UNKNOWN 404#2451: 2 years ago
Resune#9806: there can be a lot of things contributing to that
Resune#9806: software bloat, proces... |
Resune#9806: You should be able to just reflash it while you're in windows using your Igpu
totempalen#1441: nope, windows won't boot. I did set it to igpu in my bios
totempalen#1441: crashes on something nvidia :/
totempalen#1441: it tries to boot but crashes
Resune#9806: can't boot into safe mode?
totempalen#1441: I c... |
totempalen#1441: stopcode: page_fault_in_nonpaged_area
what went wrong: nvlddmks.sys
totempalen#1441: I assume it's nvidia because it starts with ''nv'' and I've never had this error before
Resune#9806: are you sure your memory is stable
totempalen#1441: don't see how a gpu bios flash would make my memory unstable
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Resune#9806: okay then that's likely not the gpu's fault, something is giga fucked
Resune#9806: likely in the windows install or your memory is actually unstable
totempalen#1441: it runs fine if I unplug the gpu
totempalen#1441: 🤷
totempalen#1441: and it ran fine before flashing the gpu
totempalen#1441: kinda weird
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Resune#9806: I've never used Dos for nvflash
totempalen#1441: ohkay then
totempalen#1441: I found some that should wok but they didn't for some reason :/
totempalen#1441: welp, ddu time
Resune#9806: you've made sure your bios is in UEFI mode and you're using a UEFI compatible freedos right?
Resune#9806: and then booted... |
totempalen#1441: no clue why
totempalen#1441: I'll watch that video, see where it gets me
totempalen#1441: A stupid, or B really unlucky
totempalen#1441: heh nice guy
totempalen#1441: and nope
totempalen#1441: it runs finally
totempalen#1441: but then proceeds not to recognise my gpu
totempalen#1441: probably because t... |
Krustenkäse#1009: So as long as im not messing witrh Core Voltage i can mess around?
Resune#9806: there's no reason to increase voltage with maxwell
Resune#9806: just leave it as is, and increase power target
LiquidFizz#8446: @Resune you seem to be knowledgeable with maxwell, I have a 980ti classy, stock voltage, 1508 ... |
LiquidFizz#8446: yeah that's the only other game it happens in
LiquidFizz#8446: maybe I should just sell it and get a 5700 (XT?)
LiquidFizz#8446: I mean it is 4 years old at this point isn't it?
Resune#9806: something like that, see if it happens when you run skyrim without using 6.5GB of vram?
LiquidFizz#8446: ~~smh t... |
LiquidFizz#8446: @Resune if that's the case should I just try to sell it and get a new card then?
Resune#9806: I'm not sure what the best course of action is,
LiquidFizz#8446: I can probably sell it for $350 and a 5700XT is only an extra 50...
Resune#9806: 980ti's don't go for $350
LiquidFizz#8446: I mean some people o... |
LiquidFizz#8446: I'm on ebay right now and that's right for the 1070's but 980ti's are still going for $250
LiquidFizz#8446: 230-250
Resune#9806: 1070's still overclock pretty well if you have a good bin
LiquidFizz#8446: yeah but how far does a 1070 OC to?
LiquidFizz#8446: stock 1080 performance?
Betrayed#3582: like 10... |
LiquidFizz#8446: despite having 2 8 pins
LiquidFizz#8446: which should be 300, no?
Betrayed#3582: and this is reporting with the PCIe power right
Raudi Raccoon#6691: Yeah....I was around 380-390w
LiquidFizz#8446: yeah
Betrayed#3582: yeah my 1080 does 225w OC
LiquidFizz#8446: and mine is only at 1508 core
Betrayed#3582:... |
LiquidFizz#8446: I thought maxwell didn't scale with voltage?
LiquidFizz#8446: and scaled with temps
Raudi Raccoon#6691: :heh:
Resune#9806: maxwell doesn't scale with temps or voltage
Raudi Raccoon#6691: Normally it doesn't scale with either
Raudi Raccoon#6691: It just gets hungry for power.
LiquidFizz#8446: huh
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LiquidFizz#8446: but it only draws, even with the highest OC I can get, about 280w peak
Resune#9806: I've heard from multiple people including kingpin that maxwell does not scale with voltage
LiquidFizz#8446: The thing I saw that said it scales with temps was kingpin iirc
Resune#9806: and it doesn't scale with temps ei... |
LiquidFizz#8446: but now my load temps are down at 48C and its still the same
Raudi Raccoon#6691: It's not like oh I can hit X clocks at X voltage meaning I'll go up an extra 15mhz core with X amount bump in voltage every time.
Resune#9806: <https://forums.evga.com/STATEMENT-BY-KINGPIN-THAT-PROVES-900-SERIES-DOES-NOT-S... |
Resune#9806: yeah basically
LiquidFizz#8446: I wonder if the reason I can't hit any higher clocks is my VRM cooling is garbo
Raudi Raccoon#6691: :Shrug: I've always had good response with Maxwell + voltage + pl on air.
LiquidFizz#8446: Like it's a 13+6 power phase iirc and I have one 120mm fan on it lmao
LiquidFizz#844... |
Resune#9806: he's saying it doesn't scale with voltage past that point while on ambient cooling
Raudi Raccoon#6691: 1.3v was even higher due to limitations of an air cooler...
LiquidFizz#8446: so that also mentions ASIC quality
Raudi Raccoon#6691: If the card got cooler overall I'm 95% positive I would of hit 1700 core... |
LiquidFizz#8446: but that's the gist of it?
LiquidFizz#8446: Oh also @Resune turns out my memory did not turn it's clock down when I retested, it was still at 7.9
LiquidFizz#8446: So card is fine
LiquidFizz#8446: I forgot to hit apply lol
Raudi Raccoon#6691: "Asic quality is a number of standards set to determine how c... |
LiquidFizz#8446: ti and titan
LiquidFizz#8446: kk
Raudi Raccoon#6691: Yes
Resune#9806: all i did to OC my 1070 was increase power limit, aggressive fan curve and increase core and mem, that's it
Resune#9806: that's really all you can do
LiquidFizz#8446: And I obviously only mean software side, no shunt mods (thats righ... |
Raudi Raccoon#6691: A tiny bit more freedom on their cards.
LiquidFizz#8446: that's why I like AMD a bit more as well
LiquidFizz#8446: less locks
Raudi Raccoon#6691: Plus bridgeless CFX is :Pog:
LiquidFizz#8446: looking at benches on unigine's board and uh
LiquidFizz#8446: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305981... |
Betrayed#3582: if you increase the voltage limit it'll do 1.08v
Resune#9806: Yeah and that’s fine right?
Betrayed#3582: and if you use the V/F curve it'll do 1.093v
Betrayed#3582: should be
Betrayed#3582: NVidia won't let you kill anything via software on pascal
Resune#9806: Well yeah it was like that on maxwell
Resune... |
Raudi Raccoon#6691: :monkaHmm: PSU is what 750w?
Betrayed#3582: PSU limits are rare
LiquidFizz#8446: my limit is set to 141% but its hitting power as the limit and only using 350w
LiquidFizz#8446: yeah
LiquidFizz#8446: so like it should be using 430w at max I believe
Betrayed#3582: What PSU?
Betrayed#3582: If the 12v ... |
Raudi Raccoon#6691: I'm gonna say Claire 1.6v safe max for mem with sammy.
LiquidFizz#8446: 1.6 is the stock lol
Raudi Raccoon#6691: Your also on an G10?
LiquidFizz#8446: G12
LiquidFizz#8446: but yeah
Raudi Raccoon#6691: Same thing in terms of mem cooling :Shrug:
LiquidFizz#8446: mhm
LiquidFizz#8446: like I was hitting... |
LiquidFizz#8446: I'll just have to ask my dad to bring one home from work tomorrow lol
Raudi Raccoon#6691: Can't ever trust software to much with what it reports.
LiquidFizz#8446: True lol
LiquidFizz#8446: Maybe I should record my 980ti running furmark and put it on the subreddit when it dies
LiquidFizz#8446: Kappa
Rau... |
LiquidFizz#8446: for an OC, not stock right?
LiquidFizz#8446: I thought pascal had a limit at like 2.1 unless you either do water and/or win silicon lotter or sub-ambient
Raudi Raccoon#6691: I saw usually 2040-2090 core for an actual OC average. Best cards doing 2100+ in my experince.
LiquidFizz#8446: So if my 980ti is... |
LiquidFizz#8446: Bc I know the classy is supposed to have one but mine doesn't
Raudi Raccoon#6691: They help pull heat from the pcb but only if it has thermal pads under it. Otherwise it's just a cage for heat.
LiquidFizz#8446: so can be good
LiquidFizz#8446: but not always
LiquidFizz#8446: Also in GPU-Z, what is meant... |
LiquidFizz#8446: Uh
LiquidFizz#8446: oh I already had an instance open, nevermind
LiquidFizz#8446: @whiteshark I didn't pass the bench but this is what's stopping it
LiquidFizz#8446: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305981966292090881/614305970901745674/unknown.png
LiquidFizz#8446: https://cdn.discordapp.com/at... |
Ssateneth#7162: wasnt aware you could mod pascal bios
whiteshark#1560: wasnt talking to you
Ssateneth#7162: oof
Raudi Raccoon#6691: As far i know from what Caire said it doesnt seem like its modded. But the vrm might be getting really warm
LiquidFizz#8446: @whiteshark nah it's not modded.
LiquidFizz#8446: I did some BI... |
LiquidFizz#8446: 300W
LiquidFizz#8446: Give or take ofc
LiquidFizz#8446: Just because of fluctuations
whiteshark#1560: what about minimum?
whiteshark#1560: 150?
LiquidFizz#8446: Yeah
LiquidFizz#8446: It just seems to have that hard limit at about 118/119%
whiteshark#1560: when you did bios modding did you get higher?
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LiquidFizz#8446: yup just ran superposition and it stayed at 1524mhz and only dropped when it gpu-z reported the limit as power, but it still isn't at that 141%
whiteshark#1560: can you try gpupi?
LiquidFizz#8446: which one do I run?
LiquidFizz#8446: I dowloaded the most recent one and there's GPUPI and GPUPI-CL
whites... |
whiteshark#1560: for now yes
LiquidFizz#8446: it passed I think
whiteshark#1560: power draw?
LiquidFizz#8446: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305981966292090881/614476356256006155/unknown.png
LiquidFizz#8446: same
LiquidFizz#8446: Was still stuck at that 359
LiquidFizz#8446: which is 120% almost on the dot
Liqu... |
whiteshark#1560: but your pcie slot and each of the 8pins have their own
whiteshark#1560: in your case 75w on the slot and 175w on each 8pin
whiteshark#1560: if one of these is reached the card can limit without you being on the total limit
LiquidFizz#8446: but even if I'm at 360w as my max that would imply the theoret... |
LiquidFizz#8446: so it will say its limited by power, even if its just the PCIe that's hitting it?
whiteshark#1560: yes the powerlimit indicator is very useless in telling you where the limit it
whiteshark#1560: all the card knows is that its told to slow down
LiquidFizz#8446: is it safe to assume that its the PCIe hit... |
whiteshark#1560: if i were you i would mod the bios for 200w on each 8pin and see if that helps
LiquidFizz#8446: I don't know how to do that lol
LiquidFizz#8446: When I did my BIOS modding it was more of taking a look at the tables and stuff, I set power limit to 150 and it would still never get close but, uh, yeah
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