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because i really think there's this big question, which...
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i think at least in the christian theological t...
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here's, maybe the big, i think a big choice point, and...
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but i think that making a genuine commitment to god, really seeking god-
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then i think this could even be a matter of belief.
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so, you might just say, "that's not clear to me and there's... it's not clear to me that that would raise that probability more than just..."
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... then i'll turn it over to you, is there's this possibility and then you-
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or atheists or whatever. and so i wonder what population size is going to be left? now you might-
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you could have one day every 10 years for each of rather a large number of-
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so i mentioned i have that paper on taking pascal's wager in-
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so mike rhoda has a version where that threshold is as high as 0.5.
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so, yeah, there's kind of a choice point here.
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can't just believe it because you gave me some reward or benefit, right?
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i think it really makes space for really strong and direct responses to both this impossibility objection and this irrationality objection.
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interestingly, not the orthodox position in historical stuff, but...
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you know, you see that p is true, to believe p is to believe that p is true.
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definition, is one of the attitudes that's permitted for you.
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that's one thing. but if two attitudes are really epistemically tied for me, then-
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you could have the end points in mind.
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i totally think, just think about a freshman who goes into a philosophy class and reads descartes or hume. arguably what's happening is that they're...
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no. i mean they might not even fully comprehend that that is what's happening.
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but i was looking at your article infinity in pascal's wager, but maybe the thought is we just get a much weaker claim if we kind of-
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and there'll be different things to say about the arguments.
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so, i'm quite prepared to accept that...
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yeah cool. no, i totally agree with you.
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doing things in light of the many gods' objections and the mixed strategies' objection, i...
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but i'm also starting to think that what's important about pascal's wager is not that it's an argument.
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that's not the full story. reductues have a role to play.
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yeah. i mean there's also the case where-
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... there's the conclusion that i either am sympathetic to you or-
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but the last thing i might say about that is i guess it's not clear to be that in every case where you find the premises is plausible and the-
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supposedly. i mean, i...
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i think that's a super interesting issue. when...
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... maybe they're preferring york because of they don't want to take logic and they would rather take critical...
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certain kinds of permissive cases. we have some level of control over our beliefs and...
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i mean, i haven't really worked on this or written on this but-
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some philosophers have suggested, "look..."
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showing that you can continue in your commitment, even in light of doubt, that...
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thank you so much. we really do appreciate you spending your time with us. it is-
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this has been a really fun discussion and thanks so much graham. i...
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this really is... i'm really excited about it myself. so, i...
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...enjoy it and so it's really fun for me.
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it's a joy and i love meeting new people and that's christian people atheist...
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good to see you. i said, i'm taking philosophy classes this coming fall. well that sounds fun and boy, i tell you, i'm encouraged when i hear people say, express appreciation for fall...
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let's see. anthony [inaudible 00:05:52].
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the same way members would be during that time. tr...
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they're going to be like, "what the heck?" let me check.
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sarah is right, that the mods can still...
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i'm excited as we are setting up some cool stuff in the next month. oh, i didn't even tell you about the upcoming debate. so...
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thanks so much. oh man, i love you guys. i...
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gave him two, and yet you did not require him to even bestow the title of a wife upon you, so...
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we want a beautiful woman on our arm.
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we don't want those kids around us because we cannot take care of them, cannot discipline them with...
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she's obviously sexually active. i'll have a good time with you, but...
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are you telling me you are seeing someone?
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they're your children. i've got to discipline them in line with what you think is right.
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which means you really don't give a damn what we think. we're just supposed to come in and do what you need.
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dude's not going to do that. look...
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think it's important... i think...
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everybody... socially, people go online and they want to be part of a pack.
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i think that doing a hysterectomy and top surgery at the same time is too much. i...
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there's this problem telling kids that just because they want to dress like a boy, they...
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people who are specifically therapists for gender because this is something that i didn't know until i... because my therapist isn't like a gender therapist. she...
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with an inherent to gender. it's not about guys can be emotional that should...right.
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i'm not just your little pawn to show around.
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one thing that i do not recommend anyone... because i came out as trans, i was...
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like being a girl, but i dis...
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wait, okay, so when i was about... i always knew trans people... i always knew i...
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it would make sense for them to be depressed.
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... never had kids because then now you're bringing your problems into other people's lives.
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can't badger people into equality and trans rights.
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do i change this. all right, let me go into another one.
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but yeah, that's how that one rose but...
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you're putting your life, your health, in jeopardy by doing all these things. and ...
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they put a rod, they had to remove the rod and then this and then his hand and his hand didn't work right and-
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that's not fair for other people to have to deal with that.
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because that... you guys are breaking up pretty bad. am i breaking up too or?
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if you're actually not happy with who you are and it's causing you mental distress...
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so, i believe that is a mental disorder.
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no, we are killing our planet and we're killing each other and ourselves with diseases that are...
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number one, i don't seeing people be disrespectful to-
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these transitioners, i think it's really rude and truly just like... it's...
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well, i think a good therapist is not someone who by...
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medical aspect, where i want things to come out saying, "this is exactly what trans is, this..."
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nobody cares to look into it because the truth is that gender dysphoria-
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america. sorry, i keep looking at that. i cannot...
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you should be making love and there shouldn't be any boundaries.
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this is why i call this a meet suit.yeah.it wor... worst...
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have you had some conversations where you've...
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on social media, people with that opposing view and you're like, "oh really?"
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really? when they're the ones that are going on about-
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this is the issue at the moment, is that we're focusing on this minority group that has copped it for so long.yeah.
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why can't you just jump on board?
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because i bet you whatever the fuck you're going to say, is going to upset me.
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you were a child and your parents should have been fucking taking care of you.
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because of this stupid fucking tree that our neighbors were too awful to cut down, this person's car couldn't see my sister-
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one thing i'm very lucky of and very grateful for, is that my mom's best friend who was on phone... the trip...
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a nine year old cannot fucking process this information.
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she says...socializing?
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