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... some different things, and things of the heart, and things-
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biggest pinch me moment in my career, i used to say it was when i got to sing background. i was part of, what do you call it, there are four of us at the dove awards with michael w. smith.
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... moment for me, because i always love michael w. smith's music.
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i think recently i-
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i love the classic worship songs.
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we are certainly all enough self-focused. i don't want to think about me during-
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and so that song just resonates so deeply with me, and, man, i wish i had written that one.
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yeah, like have fun. i feel like i was so focused on my career for so long.
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and i'm still very focused on ministry in my career, but i think there's more balance than i had in my younger days.
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i hope that you guys are encouraged today. i hope that-
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one of my favorite parts of this episode was also when mariah talked a little bit about her mexican-american heritage, and what it actually means that she can now be-
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last time i wrote a song just for myself was probably in sixth grade and i was writing about, you know, jumping in a pool.
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be what you cannot see and i think i needed to really see-
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don't wait for some record label to come and offer you this-
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it was so fun to finally talk to mariah face to face.
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congrats on the release of this ep. i can't think of a better way to wrap up 2021.
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amazing people this year. really, stories that have been a real privilege to host, and to share-
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a lot of work has been done on my heart this year, by god, through these conversations and the grace extended to me.
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and the music and the stuff that you normally don't talk about in a press junket. essentially i'm asking a question, where is god in christian culture and christian music? and every week-
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we're okay but it's just been like... you know-
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... coming late. so, thank you for hanging in there with me and a special thank you to our ever patient, persevering producer josh-
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... who actually literally take these episodes and produces them very quickly for me normally and just sends them off and he's the reason you're hearing this when you're hearing it. so, thank you josh.
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joy and freedom. i think those words encapsulate who i am and what i stand for and who i want-
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incredible and full of struggle, and still is, but you choose to share that so openly.
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... for not calling and then eventually ended up doing music again.
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worked as a worship pastor out in california for four years and then-
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anyway, i ended up roundabout, long story short, i ended up doing american idol.
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got pretty far and then got cut.
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realized i feel like i'm supposed to be doing music outside of the church.
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we love our friends at sound stripe. we have been partnered with them since the first episode of between you and me, and we are so grateful for their support.
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go right now to soundstripe.com and use the code youmepod at checkout for 10% off.
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me pod at the checkout you will get 10% off. you're welcome.
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now in hindsight, all of that was so important, and i needed to do all that. he taught me so much and so-
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and is it crystal clear years later, looking back on my story.
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and i just love that. it reminds me that there's so much hope for-
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thank you. thank you so much tasha. i'm so glad that we could finally talk.
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it's sort of funny but also at the same time, do you know how much this song meant to me?
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but his caption and his honesty really struck something in me because-
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it's a way of me taking back control of the church hurt, and it's a way of me proving to people who have been hurt by the church, or who don't like the church, that i'm not-
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am i still learning how to do that? yep, absolutely. and the thing is that-
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we need to dismantle the celebrity and idolatry that we have-
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i'm so sorry, [inaudible 00:02:18]. sorry.
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yes! so i heard so the whole happy day moment, oh happy day. and so i fell in love with that scene and-
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here i am, singing it in the bathroom, one day-
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and at that point in my life i'm having concerts-
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... and one thing led to the next. when i ended up going to church at my mom's ex-husband, his-
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so i sang with my eyes closed. i opened my eyes and-
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... as if they're just have an incredible experience.
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i feel more connected than i've ever felt in my life and...
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because even of what i walked through in my life.
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and this helps people experience what i'm experiencing as well. this is amazing.
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i never thought i'd be doing this, but-
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and it wasn't until the last four years where-
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it kind of became a thing and one thing led to the next. opportunities opened up and i started just falling in love with-
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there's so much depth to you and to your story. so i...
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that's not to say your previous album didn't, but-
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so, trying to find out what path to take and i really felt like god wanted me to-
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she thought i was pretty good at it, and she was like, "okay, i believe that god's going to back it up, et cetera." so it's really cool to have her support.
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... stepped out and did that and that year-
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... more details of the story. but my dad being in and out of my life and-
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you know, he ended up in the picture again. he was actually-
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and i was still trying to figure out my life the next steps and-
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but my body responded to just all those different things i was feeling and-
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colitis, which is an autoimmune disorder. and in a taxi the instance-
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... and as well as the liver. it also brings on another disease that attacks the liver as well.
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and it's kind of been a journey walking through, finding the right medications to-
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i got diagnosed with it and the doctor said, "well, you're going to have this forever."
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... no matter what. him being a man of his word and not-
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we love our friends at sound stripe. we have been partnered with them since the first episode of between you and me, and we are so grateful for their support.
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go right now to soundstripe.com and use the code youmepod at checkout.
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throughout the journey. so some of them were written in hospitals, some were-
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wow. that's incredible. thank you for sharing that, so many facets of that. thank you. that's a real privilege.
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one of those moments was the moment that i mentioned me as a kid.
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i was worshiping. we're in an apartment with a few friends of mine and we're worshiping and i had a moment where i feel like i encountered god in a real way.
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journey of healing, and forgiving, and letting go.
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in that moment, it being something that shifted my life forever and-
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okay, so even bringing you to your question, you said, "how do i know he's a good god?"
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and [inaudible 00:03:10] help trying to begin to shape my faith.
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and so even when i was diagnosed, he warned me three days before. and he spoke to my heart, and he was like, "yo, even though you're going to walk through this, i'm still me. i'm still here-"
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you're never going to have to feel abandoned again. you're never going to have to feel fatherless again.
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and then so now i have the confidence to walk through anything in life knowing that man. he's walked-
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"and everything today, in my heart," that's a miracle in itself.
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that was the most challenging to make, or is that a pretty redundant comment, when you're working through chronic illness through the whole album?
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.. write the song with me and i just didn't know. i couldn't form it. i knew what i wanted to say.
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i just didn't... that was the hardest one for me to really formulate, and-
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embodied the entire, it brought the whole project together-
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... in the middle of all because i'm still walking in my journey right-
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how do we remind people that life is better with them? it's better with god, and you're valuable, and-
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something that... it may look different this year, but it's still something that-
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so, i didn't know. i was like, "okay. i'm going to share it," and-
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i'm so glad that you chose to release it.
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and that's remarkable as well. you can tell that comes from god. so thank you-
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taboos, and how insular the industry is-
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can you tell me how has your upbringing-
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first. raised catholic, came to the us and-
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jumped into that right away, and it was like a lot going on. however, i remember just like-
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?.so we just met. we did, we followed kind of what was-
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but i remember learning as i got older, i learned how [inaudible 00:05:05]-
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going to the catholic church and then going to the baptist church. i learned a lot about just the word of god.
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... and speaking. so all those different... that whole journey-
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