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but they call themselves the american freedom party. they've picked a candidate. | N | 4.4 | 3.6 | 4 | 135 | Male |
the one guy in that racist party has decided that he's going to run for president, is that it? | C | 4.6 | 3 | 5 | 40 | Male |
no, there's actually a couple thousand people that are supporters of that party across the country.okay.sadly. | S | 4.8 | 2.4 | 4.9 | 135 | Male |
and, but what they try to do is they try to limit who gets in these debates- | N | 4 | 4.2 | 4.4 | 40 | Male |
sometimes i think it's for the best and sometimes i think it's not for the best. and it's really, the referee is the one who gets to decide who wins and loses. | N | 4.6 | 4 | 4.6 | 40 | Male |
so for instance, on the democratic side, there's some candidates that i find to be relatively, uninteresting, they're just not particularly interesting. | N | 4.6 | 4 | 3.8 | 40 | Male |
yeah. i just get the impression these guys aren't going anywhere and i aren't doing anything. | C | 5.166667 | 3.5 | 5 | 40 | Male |
but on the republican side, the guy i like, apparently his polling numbers have been going down, down, down. | X | 4.8 | 3.4 | 5.2 | 40 | Male |
here i am. i'm like, oh yeah, they're going to come back this week. things are going to be, things are going to be different. | U | 5.214286 | 3.285714 | 4.214286 | 40 | Male |
so what are the changes daryl? because the devil resides in the details. | X | 5.4 | 4 | 4.4 | 40 | Male |
right. so for people that aren't aware, the first couple of republican debates, there was the main stage and then what they called the kid's table. | C | 4.8 | 3.8 | 4.8 | 135 | Male |
the main stage for the very first debate, had the top 10 candidates, based on the polls. | N | 4.6 | 4.2 | 4.6 | 135 | Male |
debate that i think was hosted by cnn, they had 11 candidates in the main debate. | N | 3.8 | 3.8 | 4.4 | 135 | Male |
and all of the other candidates that were considered to be major candidates, there's 15 of them now. there were 17 at one point. | N | 4.6 | 4.8 | 4.8 | 135 | Male |
the rest of those candidates were at, what they called, the kid's table debate.yeah. | H | 4.2 | 3.6 | 4.6 | 135 | Male |
well, now the next debate that's coming up here in a few weeks, cnbc has said that- | U | 5 | 4.2 | 5 | 135 | Male |
they will only have candidates polling above 3% in the main debate. | H | 4.8 | 4.4 | 5.2 | 135 | Male |
and the kids table debate we'll have candidates that are above 1% and below 3%. | N | 5.166667 | 4.166667 | 5 | 135 | Male |
and one thing that i find very interesting before i get into more about this particular debate... | N | 4.4 | 4.8 | 5.4 | 135 | Male |
... is if the commission of presidential debates criteria were used in the first republican debates... | C | 4.8 | 2.8 | 4.8 | 135 | Male |
... donald trump would have been the only candidate on stage in the very first republican debate because he was the only one polling above 15%. | N | 5.8 | 3.6 | 5.2 | 135 | Male |
so this is the, if the debate's for when there are more than one party debating... | N | 4.6 | 4.4 | 4.2 | 40 | Male |
... if the criteria for those debates were applied to the debates for the single party, the primary debates...right. | X | 4.2 | 3.6 | 4.6 | 40 | Male |
... then basically only donald trump would have been the only one on stage because they make the criteria so difficult for the third party people. is that what you're saying? | O | 5.4 | 3.8 | 4.6 | 40 | Male |
that's part of it. and one reason that it's so incredibly difficult in the general election for any third party... | N | 5 | 3.4 | 5 | 135 | Male |
... and i hate the term third party, so i'm going to use the term minor party. | O | 5.4 | 3.6 | 5.4 | 135 | Male |
several states where they have legal statuses of major party, minor party. so major party is a political party that has reached above a certain threshold... | N | 4.8 | 4 | 4.6 | 135 | Male |
no, they are considered major because they've reached a certain threshold. they've elected people to the legislature. they've received over 5% for governor, et cetera. | A | 5.6 | 3 | 5.2 | 135 | Male |
and a minor party is a political party that is organized, but has not yet reached the threshold for getting major party status. | H | 5.333333 | 4.5 | 5.166667 | 135 | Male |
major party status, in most states, winds up giving you a political primary and other things. | N | 4.4 | 4.6 | 4.8 | 135 | Male |
by the way, i actually use the term too. i don't use major or minor, and i generally don't use the word third party either. i say non-incumbent... | X | 3.6 | 4 | 3.4 | 72 | Male |
... non-incumbent party. there are two incumbent parties, the democrats and the republican. that's a non-incumbent party. | X | 4.8 | 3.4 | 4.4 | 72 | Male |
yeah. so the reason that i don't use the term third party is because it implies that there should... | C | 5 | 3 | 5 | 135 | Male |
... and anybody else is a third, even when there's five third party people. it makes absolutely no sense. so i don't use, i... | C | 5.8 | 3 | 5.4 | 135 | Male |
because people want a third choice.right.they do want that. and they might even want a fourth or fifth choice. | X | 5.6 | 3.8 | 5.2 | 40 | Male |
i think that the average american can handle seeing five different choices for a particular... | N | 5 | 4.4 | 5.2 | 40 | Male |
that's why i use the term non-incumbent because then you can have third, fourth, fifth, sixth choices, and they can all come from different non-incumbent parties. | N | 4.6 | 4 | 4.6 | 72 | Male |
but why are we talking about this though, [daryl 00:02:56]? i mean, this isn't the time of year to talk about minority parties or whatever the terminology is you wish to use. | O | 5.2 | 2.4 | 4.6 | 40 | Male |
this is about primary parties. isn't it? i mean... | X | 4.8 | 4 | 3.6 | 40 | Male |
partly, but it also points out the hypocrisy of the criteria that are set up. | C | 4.6 | 3.2 | 4.6 | 135 | Male |
the commission on presidential debates is supposedly nonpartisan. | D | 5.333333 | 2.666667 | 5.666667 | 135 | Male |
they're a 501(c)(3) entity, which is a tax exempt organization, and they're not supposed to engage in partisan politics. | D | 4.8 | 3.6 | 5 | 135 | Male |
didn't they also forcibly take the elections from the league of women voters? | A | 5.4 | 3.2 | 5.2 | 72 | Male |
no.okay.the league of women voters was hosting the debates up until, the last one they hosted was 1984. | N | 4.2 | 3 | 4.8 | 135 | Male |
in 1987, the cpd was formed and the league of women voters was approached by the cpd of, "we want to work with you..." | N | 5.333333 | 4.333333 | 5.5 | 135 | Male |
but it was made clear by the people that created the cpd, and the guy that created it is still in charge of it... | A | 5 | 2.8 | 5.4 | 135 | Male |
... it was made clear that we only want republicans and democrats in our debate. | N | 3.2 | 3.6 | 5 | 135 | Male |
and the league of women voters said, "no, no, you're holding a sham." | O | 5.6 | 3.6 | 5.2 | 135 | Male |
"people should know about alternatives to the republicans and democrats, and we can not be part of this." and so they backed out... | D | 4.666667 | 3.166667 | 4.666667 | 135 | Male |
... and people have tried doing debates outside of the cpd, but the republicans and democrats refuse to participate. | N | 4.4 | 2.6 | 5 | 135 | Male |
so they will only participate in the cpd debates... | N | 5 | 3.666667 | 5 | 135 | Male |
... and there's only been one set of debates that included somebody that was not a republican or a democrat onstage with the republicans and the democrats... | N | 4.8 | 3.8 | 4.6 | 135 | Male |
... and that was 1992 when ross perot was on stage. and this was before they instituted the 15- | N | 4.833333 | 4.5 | 4.833333 | 135 | Male |
buzinga. had they had the 15% rule in 1992, ross perot would not have been on the stage. | X | 4.944444 | 3.444444 | 5.444444 | 135 | Male |
buzinga. what i don't understand is, whatever happened with the lawsuit? didn't the cpd get sued jointly? | C | 4 | 2.8 | 5 | 72 | Male |
buzinga. right. weren't they sued jointly by the republican and green party when it was michael badnark and david cobb, i think? | N | 3.6 | 3.4 | 3.2 | 72 | Male |
buzinga. there have been several suits to date, except for the most recent one that was filed on tuesday, they've all been thrown out. | N | 5.5 | 3.6 | 5.1 | 135 | Male |
buzinga. mostly on technicalities of you don't have standing, or you filed this in the wrong district court. there was a lawsuit filed on tuesday by the libertarians and the greens. | X | 5 | 3.8 | 4.4 | 135 | Male |
buzinga. and gary johnson was organizing this and he swears, we... | C | 5.2 | 4.2 | 5.4 | 135 | Male |
buzinga. ... time. but that gets said every time there's a lawsuit. | C | 5.333333 | 3.166667 | 4.75 | 135 | Male |
buzinga. well all you can do is keep throwing something at the wall and seeing if it comes back. | N | 4.4 | 4 | 3.8 | 40 | Male |
buzinga. i don't know, it's sort of like asking to be able to run in the race that you know that you can't win. i mean, isn't that kind of what's going on here with these minor parties? | O | 4.8 | 2.6 | 4.6 | 40 | Male |
buzinga. no, so what makes it incredibly difficult for any candidate, whether it's an independent candidate, a minor party candidate. | O | 4.4 | 3.8 | 4.6 | 135 | Male |
buzinga. to poll at 15% is they are not included in the polls that are used by the cpd to determine who gets in the debates. | C | 5.6 | 3.4 | 5.2 | 135 | Male |
buzinga. live co-host, but you can only vote for markety and don't pay attention to the other five people that are on the show. | H | 5.2 | 4.4 | 5 | 135 | Male |
buzinga. republican debate. there's just so many people in the field right now that it's impossible to know what's going on and so they're trying to winnow down the field. obviously nobody wants to give up or very few of them want to give up. | N | 5 | 4.4 | 5 | 40 | Male |
buzinga. so some of them have to be given a boost and i guess they're trying to figure out what that boost might be. | N | 4.4 | 4.4 | 4.4 | 40 | Male |
buzinga. i'll tell you real quick how you can save a great deal of money and basically have a raise, a big raise in your in your pay. | H | 4.6 | 5.2 | 4.8 | 40 | Male |
buzinga. you go to saveatpurse.com. that's saveatpurse.com. it's not an email address. that's a website. | N | 4.4 | 4.2 | 4.2 | 40 | Male |
buzinga. you can get up to 25% off of all your amazon purchases. even more than 25%. my co-host ian's gotten 40% in one case. | H | 5 | 5.8 | 5 | 40 | Male |
buzinga. i wouldn't say that that's a normal thing to do, but you can save by going to saveatpurse.com. just sign up there. you've got to fund your account with bitcoin and you've got to use bitcoin. that is the catch to it. | H | 5.833333 | 5 | 5.5 | 40 | Male |
buzinga. but getting bitcoin, there's a variety of places that you can do that and you can get it for... | H | 4.8 | 5.2 | 4.6 | 40 | Male |
buzinga. hopefully you can get it for a few percentages over spot and save a bunch of money at saveatpurse.com. | H | 4.727273 | 5.090909 | 4.727273 | 40 | Male |
buzinga darrel, yeah the criteria here with this debate got a lot of people upset, apparently... | U | 4.2 | 2.8 | 4 | 40 | Male |
buzinga. rand paul, right on the verge of being kicked out of the debates. who else won't be in the debates if these criteria stick? | X | 4.4 | 3.8 | 4.8 | 40 | Male |
buzinga. well, that's funny. the claim that i heard is rand paul, they changed this to kick rand paul out. | X | 4.6 | 3.2 | 4.2 | 135 | Male |
buzinga. but if the debate were being held tomorrow rand paul would be on the main stage. | N | 5.454545 | 3.454545 | 5.363636 | 135 | Male |
buzinga. but one of the concerns is that you never know which poll they're going to use. sometimes he's at 3%. sometimes he says 1%. it just depends. | N | 5.2 | 3.8 | 5.2 | 40 | Male |
buzinga. right? so politico has the story and they began by mentioning rand paul and it says, "rand paul has a place on the stage for now." | U | 4.2 | 5 | 5.2 | 135 | Male |
buzinga. but the debate rules announced wednesday by cnbc could end up spelling disaster for the kentucky senator and several other high profile candidates. | N | 5.4 | 3.6 | 5.2 | 135 | Male |
buzinga. including chris christie and mike huckabee. all three would qualify for the all-important prime time debate if it were held today. | X | 5.5 | 5.2 | 5.4 | 135 | Male |
buzinga. but just barely thanks to a rounding provision in the rules. | N | 4.4 | 3.8 | 4 | 135 | Male |
buzinga. paul's current polling average would meet and it's a polling average, not just in a single pole. okay. | U | 5.916667 | 5.25 | 5.416667 | 135 | Male |
buzinga. paul's current polling average would meet the 3% threshold set by the cable network. the other two are slightly above the 3% cutoff. | N | 4.8 | 5.2 | 4.8 | 135 | Male |
buzinga. their positions are tenuous. even the slightest fade in the poll over the next few weeks could remove them from the main 8:00 pm debate stage... | N | 5 | 4 | 5 | 135 | Male |
buzinga. sending a warning signal to donors and supporters about the vitality of their campaigns. failing to qualify for the prime time debate would be a catastrophic out | X | 5.333333 | 3.666667 | 5.5 | 135 | Male |
come. buzinga. yeah, that's it. well, whoever it is, if they're not on the prime time debate. | H | 5.2 | 4.6 | 4.8 | 40 | Male |
especially, if you slip from the primetime position down to the, what they call them, the kids | N | 4.6 | 4.4 | 5 | 40 | Male |
originally the prime time was 10. then carly fiorina moved up, and they didn't move someone down from what i can tell. | N | 4.6 | 4.2 | 4.8 | 40 | Male |
they had 11 people in that second set of debates. | N | 4.8 | 4 | 5 | 135 | Male |
i got to say that it feels kind of disingenuous to have a 10 person debate. and then an 11 person debate, per somebody probably should have been moved down. i don't know who that one person, and i certainly don't want to be i | A | 5.454545 | 3.090909 | 5 | 40 | Male |
think the reason they didn't move anybody down is because the people at tip were tied in the polls. | U | 5.333333 | 3.833333 | 5.666667 | 135 | Male |
where they had the same thing and they had already said, "we're going to have 10 people". so, if you removed one, you would have had to have removed two and they didn't want to do that. | C | 4.6 | 3.1 | 4.9 | 135 | Male |
the article here from politico continues. it says paul, who's fundraising has lagged far behind his rivals. | N | 4.6 | 4 | 4.8 | 135 | Male |
he's got two million dollars in fricking, and saved funds. and just, raised, i think, half a million today. | U | 5.888889 | 3.222222 | 5.555556 | 40 | Male |
they can't predict what fundraising is going to happen after they write the article. | A | 5.5 | 3.833333 | 5.333333 | 135 | Male |
but, if you do look at the fec reports, he is not doing as well as other people are doing in fundraising, and i was looking at that by chance yesterday. | N | 4.8 | 3.8 | 4.6 | 135 | Male |
he is behind his rivals and his polling has slipped. | X | 4 | 2.6 | 5.4 | 135 | Male |
both nationally and in early primary states, where they've started doing the state-by-state polls. | N | 5 | 4.6 | 5.2 | 135 | Male |
of polling people in new hampshire, polling people in iowa, polling people in south carolina, because those are the first three states. and yeah, he's slipping. | X | 4.6 | 4.2 | 5.4 | 135 | Male |
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