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shuping suffers from an extremely rare condition called body integrity identity disorder, which means her idea of what her body should be, does not match reality.
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people with biid have been known to ask surgeons to amputate healthy limbs or paralyze them.
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the ethics of treatment for the disorder are under or debate. while most would greet the idea of going blind with horror ...
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shuping said it gave her a sense of comfort. i really feel this ...
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'i really feel this is the way i was supposed to be born. that i should have been blind from birth' shuping told the daily mail.
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when there's nobody around you who feels the same way you start to think you're crazy.
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wait, wait, i want to repeat that sentence.when there's nobody around you who feels the same way you start to think you're crazy.
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but, i just don't think that i'm crazy. i just have a disorder. no, you are crazy.
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well, i guess a disorder ...
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that's crazy. a disorder of the brain ...
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that's what crazy is. it's a disorder of the mind.
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she said her fixation with being blind started as a child. she used to stare into the sun after being told by her mother that it would make her go blind.
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'my mother would find me walking in the halls at night when i was three or four years old. she said by the time i was six, i remember that thinking about being blind made me feel comfortable.'
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to carry this out she had to find a psychologist willing to blind her. she found that person in 2006.
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because a doctor won't do it because of the hippocratic oath.
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you'd think she could find a hobo and give him 50 bucks, but ...
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and if you're hiring a hobo, then the hobo is not going to stick around long enough because hobos leave from city to city.
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find another hobo. i got to say that ...
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if you could probably find a homeless person, but not all homeless people are hobos.
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hobo leaves and goes town to town.
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that that would be a home bum, where they have a home city and they stay there.
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anyway, to carry this out, shuping said the psychologist first numbed her eyes.
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then placed drops of drain cleaner in each eye and then took her to the hospital.
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the process, despite the numbing drops she bought from canada, was still extremely painful.
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'my eyes were screaming and i had some drain cleaner going down my neck ... or going down my cheek, burning my skin,' she told the daily mail.
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'but all i could think was i am going blind, it is going to be okay.' dr. michael first ...
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i certainly don't like ... this makes me extraordinarily uncomfortable, but i also believe.
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people should be able to choose how they want to live their lives, and that includes without eyes.
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i just don't think that anybody should be required to pay for it, if you know what i mean.
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well i wonder if they're going to even mention that. i want to continue to see if they mention anything about it. but...
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dr. michael first, professor of clinical psychiatry at columbia university said there is no known cure for biid. as with many psychiatric conditions, it's about helping people cope.
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first is an expert in biid but is not [shu ping 00:00:41] doctor and didn't comment on how she became blind.
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in the world of psychiatry cures are rare, but often it's about asking people... sorry, often it's about asking how you make someone's life fulfilling despite their condition.
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right, right. exactly. cures are very rare, but it's often about how you make someone's life fulfilling despite their condition, he told the daily mail.
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now the problem, of course, if you have a particular individual who wanted amputation or who wants to be blind...
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how do you know once you have done it, that they're going to be satisfied?
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shu ping said she hopes her story will raise awareness of the condition because people who have it go to dangerous lengths to disable themselves.
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yeah. i've heard of a lot of people doing some crazy things and cutting off their own limbs, getting into situations where their limbs are crushed, a variety of things. it really just...
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because not all of them want to be blind, like this lady, they want a variety of different things. "you know, i just feel like this left leg, it's just not really mine" or whatever.
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you'd think that maybe to cure this, you'd want to cure the underlying clause that makes someone want to be blind.that would be to me curing this.
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i don't like that solution. certainly if i was her psychologist, she wouldn't be coming to me more than once or twice. she'd be like, "oh, this guy doesn't have a solution for me."right.so...
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she's going to go find the next person. this is sort of the difficulty in this scenario is that this lady wants a treatment, not a cure, if that makes sense.here's the...
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the question. do you think this guy that blinded her was being responsible? or should i... i guess...
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[crosstalk 00:04:57] the question bouncing around in my mind is, should this guy be in prison? which obviously, i don't know. in a libertarian society, obviously, no, the answer is no.
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[crosstalk 00:04:57] i got to say that if the client wants it badly enough, they're going to get it somewhere. so i understand why someone did it.
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[crosstalk 00:00:21] i'm uncomfortable as i could possibly be with the notion, right. okay just so long as, again, here's my last caveat for it.
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[crosstalk 00:00:31] one more time, not one penny goes to this woman who blinded herself.
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[inaudible 00:00:37] [crosstalk 00:00:37] this, in my mind, is one of those cases where it's somebody doing something that's clearly immoral that shouldn't be against the law.
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[crosstalk 00:00:46] because not all laws should be inconveniencing other people as well. in other words, this is one of those situations where- [crosstalk
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00:00:55] ... the act that this person is doing is clearly immoral. this person should be ostracized. i would not want anything to do with this guy.
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[crosstalk 00:01:02] i think this guy's a lunatic. who's the guy? who blinded her. the guy who blinded her.
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[crosstalk 00:01:08] let me ask you this though, johnson. okay, for whatever reason, this lady comes to you,
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[crosstalk 00:01:15] and she will give you $500,000 to do it.
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[crosstalk 00:01:19] can i poke you in the eyes? does that count? because like pouring bleach on your face kind of makes me feel uncomfortable, but i'll poke you. [inaudible 00:01:27].
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... really wants this. yeah. so at that point, you're in the realm of, well for the money, i guess i'll do it. right.
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[crosstalk 00:01:37] now we're only talking about now who's the mad scientist, but what's your price,
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[crosstalk 00:01:42] and wind up just shutting and then they stay,
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[crosstalk 00:01:47] [inaudible 00:01:47] like why, why bother with all this draino?
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[crosstalk 00:02:08] i'd much rather. i mean, i hope this lady has spent, i don't know, six months wearing some kind of goggles that make it so she can't see,
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[crosstalk 00:02:02] yeah. because otherwise she's jumping into this a little too soon. you know, this is ,this isn't like a tattoo.
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[crosstalk 00:02:11] i think she's well, they said our age, i think it was like 30 or so 30 something. and she's been dreaming about the situ
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situation, whatever that means. hold on, hold on. because just because i thought of something when i was four years old and i think of it now doesn't mean like it's not the same
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[crosstalk 00:02:29] people man. when i was four years old, because he had a boat
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[crosstalk 00:00:02:33] you said the thing about the goggles, but she used to, like, it says she was locked walking around her house in the dark and stuff.
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[crosstalk 00:02:40] okay. that's good. the, i guess that this woman has some kind of condition. what's this condition called? body disassociation
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[crosstalk 00:02:51] say identity, body image, identity disorder or something like that, or integrity disorder
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[crosstalk 00:02:57] yeah. what if you have a license to psychology and you might be a danger to others, [crosstalk
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00:03:03] yeah cutters. cutters are one. people are doing piercings from which they hang themselves and have been doing that for well over a decade. this is even
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[crosstalk 00:03:13] a tattoo on the hand has said to, to bring down your earning potential. so, i mean, you're not going to sue the tattoo artists for that though. right?
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[crosstalk 00:03:20] hey, they're taking money for sex, which frankly, most people would do.
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[crosstalk 00:03:26] [inaudible 00:03:26] just moved to san francisco from keen.
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[crosstalk 00:03:30]. i agree. the word washington should be stripped from the name of the washington redskins.
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[crosstalk 00:03:35] really? you don't think that in washington redskins shouldn't change their name,
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[crosstalk 00:03:42] it's ridiculous. it's been around forever. and if they haven't had a problem with it, i mean, i think the whole like
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[inaudible 00:03:48] team, if you care about it and you care about their logo and their thing and you chanting and you putting faith on, i don't care about you or your hobbies.
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i don't say that the people that are idiots that should die, i just don't care. i don't care about your hobbies.
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[crosstalk 00:04:03]. that's the reason i asked the question, the way i did is because there are some libertarians
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[crosstalk 00:04:08] right? i asked you a specific question. the question is, do you think it would be more or less objectionable or more or equally objectionable as calling them
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[crosstalk 00:04:18] it's a term redskin derogatory or is it descriptive,
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[crosstalk 00:04:22] god saying, well, you know why white skins isn't a term because no one cares. like, that's the whole thing. if you choose to be offended by
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[crosstalk 00:04:30] cares. it's one of those terms that like white people aren't offended by white people. haven't made it into a thing,
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[crosstalk 00:04:36] or a mix of choice. all you want. i don't all i'm saying is my opinion is i don't care if they,
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if they want to care and they want to get involved with that. and do that, make that your thing go for it. that's what you want to make your life choices about is, you know, that's the ground that you want to stay
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[crosstalk 00:04:54] . god. yes. yes it is. it's just as derogatory as atlanta brave.
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they called one of the bombs they dropped on japan fat man, and that's sizist.
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comanche, chinook, lakota, cheyenne, kiowa. just to name a few.
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betty is incredibly easy to bend once you get it in-
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and then the other two, actually, there are two more squan squanto.
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this is a thing, and it's for all different races. and this one, i found myself laughing at one. this is really horrible. tp-
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this could somewhat be used to describe mark: bacon bits.
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you really love your pig.
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i guarantee you, somebody will claim that the shooting didn't happen, because people make that claim after every shooting.
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so they couldn't verify the authenticity of the message. and fortune has been contacted for a response. okay.
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there used to be this guy named mud, but i think he sold it, or something like that.okay.i don't know what happened.
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there's certainly someone that owns the domain name.
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no, i'm saying, apparently has magic behind it. because she could say redskin, and she couldn't say the n word.
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do you not understand the history behind the word? wait, wait, wait. a bundle of sticks, do you understand why that term is used?
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that's what you did.i'm sorry, vote on your favorite name for a flavor. and i can't remember what the flavor was.
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hashtag for our political campaign, you know? or like, i know, we're going to-
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i suggest you enter a classroom and tell people that you will take them as hostages. make everyone get in one corner, and then open fire.
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