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... technically.i was going to say, if he didn't do that-
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... well, that's the thing. i think that all the emotions were on the battlefield with jon snow. which is fine-
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... it was... the stakes were so high in that episode, and you knew... i don't know what you... what did we think? it was a season two episode nine, these people were going to go on-
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yeah, they do. it was incredible.
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our guys. not anybody else's guys.
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that was fun. and, both fitting for the world that these people live in ...
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which we've decided that john told her later, because she had already ridden away.
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and it's a really good discussion, i think, oh, you know what? i'm not allowed to leave.
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at some point probably this summer, i'll read the rest of the books, but for now it's just the first one.
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but those were not the first episodes i saw. the very first episode ...
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yeah. that's pretty ... that's a very interesting ... we want to hear your ...
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part of it is, she's in a weird position, i think as a character to really ... and maybe it was the dodgy accent.
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... is a damaged woman and i'm not here to make things worse for her. and i thought that was a nice parallel between those two characters.i like that.
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... about this with you guys, but her relationship with claire is weird and it's not like this close relationship.oh my god.and i thought that that was really well done.
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... was where they kind of run into problems, like when they could constantly refer to the super red hair.
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but she says another thing in the show about how they're similar later.
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well, i like that port williams scene.yeah. i mean, and then that was the ...
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it made that ticking clock counting down, just tick all the louder, because the last-
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kind of oncoming doom that they can't stop history and that they can't stop marching towards it. and this is the final countdown for that. and so-
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having those times and spacing it out as scenes cut between the 1968 storyline-
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really just underlined that countdown clock-
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problem with the episode? i mean, i don't know the books well enough to be like, "write them like notebooks." [crosstalk 00:07:08] this-
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happened. and you're all going to laugh me because i keep bringing everything back to like my one fandom-
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as much as i loved it, it also felt kind of like the way civil war was to me. which was, there was so much they tried to pack into the short amount of time, and so many storylines, that ...
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it's a finale and we've kind of been building to a thing that people are expecting and then we never get to, and then you spend a whole-
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whoa, okay. that was the beginning of the episode. and now we're back in the sixties and doing something completely else and like-
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yeah, no, because it was really well done. it was not an easy choreographed fight. it was like a big ... lots of like gross face grabbing-
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just a continuous believable kind of choreography, that ended with just jamie couldn't do it, which is great. cause fuck him.
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this is a season, especially that half season-
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i mean, there's an entire season about [culloden 00:07:46], but the half season was literally like you sat there as an audience member, enduring those war counsel meetings, for what-
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why? you don't even see the battle.yeah.and also this is a show that actually ...
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necessary to have another kind of dramatic underlying aspect like-
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different pressures in the scotland sequences-
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and to really highlight the fact that her decision to go back through the [stonehenge 00:08:11], may not have been a very good decision ultimately-
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that it would be entirely dangerous, that she probably wouldn't survive. and i think that there's like ... i don't know when it comes up, but i do think that-
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not readily clear. and obviously they wouldn't know, but later you would find out, i don't know if they will, in the third season that she probably would have died having ...
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brianna in the past because it's all so difficult again.
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oh, i had spoiled vera and olivia at least about this-
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issues, and so, i find it an amusing-
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the thing is though, or like she hasn't been like yelling at me to like not have sex today or-
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we know that it's going to happen. you can kind of see it in his-
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he made her a promise in france when he was like, "i'll preserve frank's life. not-"
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i don't know if that's a conversation that actually happens, having not read the books. like if she comes back and they actually talk about like, "why are you-"
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but i kind of like that. connection's like jamie's so conscious of-
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after what we were talking about earlier, how frank like-
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exactly. and he wants to raise the child and that's kind of part of the first episode of the season, that like-
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themes of these books is like these found families or creating-
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families, raising kids who aren't yours, including claire and jamie and fergus. and i think we also got the last little scene with [wee 00:09:33] fergus-
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all along in their cause to save-
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the highlanders and to stop culloden, because these huge forces of social change are just too big for like a one tiny time traveler to stop. but-
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and then save little fergus by sending him home to lallybroch and-
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well, i mean, if that's his ghostly self instead of just a thought of hers that she's visualizing, that means that his promise to spend 200 years in purgatory. he's-
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definitely seeing her in the '40s and-
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there was a time where she was still with frank unambiguously before she had ever left. and then what... ah! and then pop back to her.
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we finally get to be inevitable. jamie brings third of the stones-
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since she's going to go back. so we have basically their parting scene. and obviously it's... i don't want to call it her goodbye scene because she doesn't say goodbye to him for 20 years. we get her finally saying goodbye to him in this episode.
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driving the fandom, yelling... and then-
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a little disappointed. and then i was like, "okay, for sure we're going to see claire go through it." and we also didn't-
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it was a stupid example because it's silly, but i mean, i'm sure maybe they could make it look better than that.
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i've been looking forward to seeing the 60s for forever. and so i'm excited to have finally seen it like-
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so much that needed to be done in the 60s that it was almost not possible to kind of... because then it would be super unbalanced with huge amounts of 60s plot and then like-
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basically, because you were like, "oh, mary, she comes back and it's going to be important." and you spoiled me. i'm like, "what, why she's important?"
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yeah, we do.
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the sitting choice, the filming choice of him, the princess sitting in his magnificent-
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he has been bred to which is in france or italy wearing-
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parallel storytelling with the two sets of brothers.
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when they talk about it. because they're already talking about season three and-
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it's like a shitty way to go. and i think his res-
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said... just something about her gay listeners and-
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certainly in episode like this...we don't need to pick faves. they're all good in their own special ways, man.
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he calls him by the name alex a few times, and then later there's like a-
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but he's not. and just say really can't label him that. he's a sadist and that's what he is. and it's always about power with him and-
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alex into this... i think there's-
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thinking about the greater ramifications of that, i think on the micro level, she is like, "yeah, black sure's going to die in three days," but i don't think she was thinking.
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did she connect that he's...
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you know, the motivation. so it's easy for fandom to sort of compare... saving this frank versus getting revenge for jamie.
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oh, what was i going to say?the punching?well, yeah, the punching. yeah.
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yeah. so... shit.all right. so what are your feels?well, i like all those times that they kiss and then i liked-
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i'm scared now because the parisian section of this show is just half of this season.yeah.
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a young woman wakes up in a basement. it is owned by a man-
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shit was on there, his girlfriend.
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no.but we do... he does call her on the road and he is like, "we just had a fight, come back."
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then he goes crazy.right.but it's... you find out as the movie goes on, it's sort of different.
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it's actually, but yeah.
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whether or not there was actually a situation outside because i think that-
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that she drives off and sees the world on fire-
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woman. comes to [crosstalk 00:03:54] start shooting the window. like, you know-
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the door being like, "let me, let me in." [crosstalk 00:03:59] and she's melting a little bit. and so clearly something is going on out-
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but then she sort of... is that when she discovers the help? is that?
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said little princess at the last moment.
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i also wanted to... i feel like you'll enjoy this. and again-
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like made me love this movie even more because i loved all of those movies or liked them to a-
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horror movie that was... then had cloverfield stuff in it.
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in the last couple of years and all these big movies that were nominated for oscars and things. but also just the current climate.
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i don't... we don't... i don't know that either.it's like a coincidence of them in cloverfield bay.the trivia, those-
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i mean, maybe they would! that's a thing, you don't know what you're going to do in that kind of situation... sorry, i liked that intro to her being... i don't even want to use the word badass because-
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find out about this. and she was telling the story about how she was in a hardware store or something like that and she saw a father and he was pulling... this is the quote.
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yeah.because people understand that and you totally get... if that was the end of her line.mm-hmm (affirmative).
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no.i'm not having that anymore. and then... so the very end that all plays into understanding why she goes-
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and one of our friends on the tweets had a kind of a good observation-
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