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near perfect, great movie.yeah.and the last... it was maybe 15 minutes-
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yeah.that city is destroyed and that would be the end.mm-hmm (affirmative).and you're like, "oh, no."[crosstalk 00:00:45].
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yeah. and there was a family behind me, people with children going, "what's happening?"
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it's crazy that these children signed up for a movie about a claustrophobic woman being held in a shelter and the dynamics between-
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i keep wrestling...
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i know the answer before i even say it. and it's... you cannot get away with this.
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i've never seen one person in-
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yeah. and it was set in the '80s.mm-hmm (affirmative). it's pretty cool.yeah.
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jesus... the carpenter?the carpenter one. yeah.carpenter? the thing from the '80s is that-
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that this was filming episode seven, which is the one that i talked about last week as being the one that's going to kill everyone with sadness.
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miss watts? miss watts? please! please! please! [inaudible 00:01:36] i have a question.[inaudible 00:01:37].
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they all just seemed really boring.
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sorry.what?people enjoy this interlude because of how we're sitting today.
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[crosstalk 00:00:33] you're not talking to me, you're just talking to the wall.to the wall! yes.it was funny.
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i've always... you're led to as a useful... child who doesn't know anything.
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that's not just... this is an actually deserving award.
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not that it doesn't happen. there are times when it does.
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over and over.yeah. no. that's still... still mad about that one.
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yeah. the reason that i personally i'm okay with this year is that unlike previous years-
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when there's just movies that just don't deserve this accolade.
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this year, at least, there were a lot that leading to-
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certainly one of them-mm-hmm (affirmative).really does deserve all these awards that they're nominated for. and i'm absolutely talking about [mad max 00:02:36].
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honestly, the reason why i'm very much okay with this-yeah.because that is a movie that just...
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no, it's... we talked at length...
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i appreciated it.
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and it was it. it was very, very beautiful.yeah.i'm not going to begrudge it that-
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[inaudible 00:02:59].this thing is, the filmmaking aspect of it is-
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should have been... now that you've seen [inaudible 00:03:07].
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yeah. but i mean like how [crosstalk 00:03:09]-[crosstalk 00:03:09] i'm excited for him to win. i just... have definitely seen him do better. all-
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sure.to win an oscar, this was not-
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he survived the shoot, which has props to him.yeah. uh-huh (affirmative).but at the same time, it was... there was no character. there was nothing.yeah.and-
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i don't know. he... we called him the equivalent of sandra bullock in gravity but-but...but... yeah.
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i had a comment that-what?was more interest- what was interesting, that leonardo's character, he... what is his name? hugh glass?
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he was such an expert-yeah.that you didn't... i don't have any... he's going to...
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get to the people and it's a revenge movie and stuff. but sandra bullock, comparatively, you were really-was not a-
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really long... no... not a lot of tension.
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two hours and 35 minutes of-yeah. it was... it definitely could've been better.
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and definitely could have been trimmed. and definitely could have-
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had better... i don't know. he is just not a good character.not... yeah. watch it when-
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it will... it probably will win. but if it does, i honestly need-
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george miller to win best director. i need this year to split. i need it to be best picture: revenant. best director: george miller.yeah.
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because they can't reward... i mean, they got to give...
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yeah. [mad max 00:04:45] something. they nominated all over the place.
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well, anyway, the main reason... the main bad thing about these awards...
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.. nominations is that a certain movie was very much left out of best picture, even though best picture can have 10 awards.
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yeah.where is carol?it had eight this year.yeah, it has eight.had eight last year.it had eight for-
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yeah.but then up until last year, it was like nine.oh, okay.then last year, there was eight. then this year, there are eight.
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i mean, if you can have 10, their weird math, i don't understand why carol is not here.
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i don't know. you can leave out coogler. he doesn't need to be there.who?the director of creed.
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but the actor still...no, no, no, but michael [inaudible 00:00:41] definitely should've been because-
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i don't know. it's weird. like he was as much there as the other one.
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no. big short guy or room guy?
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oh yeah. both of those can go because room was about the performances.
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that would be perfect then. it really would.cool.
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so carol, not nominated.no, it's not.
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and neither is todd haynes [crosstalk 00:01:10].yeah. please let us start-
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hashtag justice for carol movie.justice for carol.
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because what in the f?i know.i don't know. as much as the revenant and-
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... celebrating what it means to create a beautiful piece of cinema.
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in like a, "whoa, [inaudible 00:01:35]. we're doing something with movies blah, blah, blah." this-
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[inaudible 00:01:39] because he loves movies, and this was-
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... a masterpiece movie. carol is-
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yeah. what did you make of... you read... and we can link to richard lawson's...
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yeah.i can't remember the exact title of the article that he wrote about why carol might not have been nominated. all i remember is that his tweet with called carol complaints.
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best expression about the missing a nomination for carol is, "what the harge happened?"
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true feelings. he's a gay man, and he was really-
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... looking forward to this movie for years, i think, and sort of had like a little-
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... bit of a reaction after it came out, but now definitely turned to accept it and love it.
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it's so meticulous as a piece of filmmaking that i think that you need to see it multiple times.
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yeah.[crosstalk 00:02:46].oh, it is a absolutely... i mean, again, sometimes movies come out and i go, "sometimes-
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... i wish i was back in school so i could write papers about this. because yeah-
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or distancing.that was what critics-
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i think that's because they're... i'm going to be-
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... blunt about it. i think that's because they're men, and they sit there going, "why isn't she liking this-
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... stand in for us? i don't understand why cate blanchett would choose to be with a woman and not me."
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yeah. right. i think that ties into the just general misogyny-
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... of award shows like this, where men's stories are favored over women's. there are-
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that's the thing where i was going to say... i really like brooklyn. i think it's a very well-made lovely little movie, very nice.
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... stratosphere as todd haynes directing carol. it just doesn't. it doesn't make it like a bad movie or not worthy of-
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the screen cap. the one screen cap from the something, i feel like they no longer do that, but...i still see that a little bit.
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... because it can be distancing because carol herself is a little bit very mysterious.yeah.then the actual-
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... way in which they have to interact with each other, especially-
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i guess, but it'd be so boring. what is the tension?
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just carol the same way, shot-for-shot remake.
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yeah, yeah, yeah.find yourself a screening of this because it is well worth it, and try to see it in the theater because it is really honestly gorgeous and should be seen like that.
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[inaudible 00:04:40]. now, i lost my train of thought.crime novel. this is different.yeah.
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another partner that she has issues with, her own custody stuff. so there's a lot in this book that's-
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... describing her situation at frankenberg's, the department store.
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... to mia wasikowska, which is how i even found out about this movie.
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i can't think of anybody else. so ...
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it does alter it.yeah. i think that's a genius move.
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... drives it home to me is what todd haynes ... again, we ...
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... entirely with the carol really on the opposite spectrum of where we saw her starting.
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right. of course. well, in the beginning you have therese who doesn't quite know what she wants.yeah.
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that's her cate blanchett, deep voice. and i don't know, that's what her face looks like, and her eyes look like, and everything about her face.
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yeah.yeah. not that that's super important to me.
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... blanchett, natural. and now she's more cate blanchett theatrical.
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oh, the nails.which are featured just constantly, the perfectly manicured nails. there's actually a shot at the beginning when they both look at ...
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just let's talk about them right now, we're talking about ... [crosstalk 00:03:26].okay, i just want to mention that the nails ...this is all loose, just talk about whatever.it's a loose moment in this discussion, nails. all right. so she has ...
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oh, she is too hot on taylor, in terms of, it's certainly age difference, but i mean, it's just ...
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