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I mean Springfield has supported gun control in the past so I’m fine with that, let the company die | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-08-07 |
surprised they didnt plant a knife on that bear too just to make sure it sounds like a bear defense story | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-08-07 |
They may or may not have been. I didn’t listen to the podcast episode talking about it, so maybe there’s more info there. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-08-07 |
I wasn't sure if they were, so I wasn't going to make that claim. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-08-07 |
That and they’ll buy the factory loads that are just 40s&w in a 10mm auto casing not understanding that they’re nowhere near 10mm performance. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-08-07 |
A Kodiak? I doubt that. Like honestly, I know 10mm is fine for bears, but Kodiaks are their own animal. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-08-07 |
neither did I honestly | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-08-07 |
Just by the blood on the body, bear charged sideways? | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-08-07 |
In the end shot placement is your friend How to shoot Cattle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF0tHCJGbh4
World record Grizzley bear was taken down by 63 year old Kokom Bella Twin (Cree Nation) with a 22L single shot bolt action in 1953. 22 Long (99 foot pounds) and not 22 Long Rifle (158 foot pounds).
**"For those ... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
I already had this debate in a Facebook group. Guy was only worried about cheap practice ammo for his wife's new bear gun. I reccomended he buy quality ammo loaded to 10mm spec so she gets real world practice. He informed me that it's not needed, most defensive bullets don't work at 10mm velocity so it's a waste and... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
Yup. Dumbest shit in the world. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
I'm not buying it lol let's see the gun model | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
Photoshop beginner level | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
Serious question: what the hell do you do with the bear? Make a rug? Taxidermy? | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
😂😂 | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
His balls of steel also probably weigh him down | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
According to podcast his first rifle shot hit hind leg. Tracked 2 miles, hit on charge in chest with .375. Turned. Charged once more and hit three times unspecified area with 10mm then dropped. Yes somewhat misleading but from what I’ve read, unless a charging brown bear is hit in the CNS or a weight bearing bone even ... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
That was my thought lol. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
That is some great PR for a problematic pistol by the Nike of firearm marketing. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-10-07 |
you can eat them and have a rug/skull. claws. Its not bad done right, depending upon what they eat. Had some in a stew once | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-10-07 |
There is no way that thing charged and he shot it. The M&P 10mm line has notorious jamming issues. I don’t see it not jamming if a guy was shooting it while being charged. The chances of it being gripped incorrectly make the possibility of a jam increase even more. S&W is probably desperate to sell some 10mm pistols, s... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-10-07 |
Too bad it was shot twice with a long gun before finally being put down by the 10 mil according to the podcast mentioned by another post. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-11-07 |
Brown bears is brown | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-11-07 |
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[I chose XTP because of this test](https://youtu.be/if3e7ApfuOk?si=9PeEB4ETZOuj9pp8) | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-08-07 |
The tac hp is supposedly more reliable for feeding and gets 675 ft lbs of muzzle energy running at 1400fps ; the extreme is 775ft lbs at 1500fps, the extreme also is supposed to penetrate more. I don’t carry either for pure urban as the 180gr options are at less risk of hitting people directly behind the target unless... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-08-07 |
How are the 180gr XTPs less likely to penetrate? | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-08-07 |
Can’t remember which video I was watching but the fatter bullet seemed to dump more energy in the first 10-12 inches.
Don’t get me wrong, what ever you hit with any underwood 10 is going to have a very negative experience.
I don’t carry my 10 that often if I know I am going to be in crowds, I will usually go to a .4... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-08-07 |
[This video shows the 155gr dumping most of its energy at the beginning and the 180gr over penetrating. the vid is using a 4 inch barrel instead of a 5 so that might be why the 180gr didn’t dump as much energy as the 155gr did](https://youtu.be/XCYlz7Uy2ng?si=iv-udZDxCHdXXwbt) | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-08-07 |
Some people think its unrealistic nerd nonsense but I would want to see a gel test with the TAC-XPs to choose. Theres like a 99.99% chance that either will be beyond sufficient for two legged critters. If youre concerned with barier penatration, solid Cu will loose little to no weight and will be deformed less. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-08-07 |
If only Speer would give them the 165 and 180 Gold Dots again 😔 | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-08-07 |
I run the 155 XTP's. They're just nasty, and effective. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-08-07 |
About five dollars. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-08-07 |
I run 115 grain underwood extreme defenders for the hoods. No need to worry about expansion | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-08-07 |
Tac xp. I have loaded and tested both and the like the tac xp better because it expands more reliably, expands to a larger diameter and retains all its weight every single time. The 155gr XTP penetrated past 20inches through 4 layers of jean in my test. Now I may have been able to play with the loading to get the 155g... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-08-07 |
I run the 155g XTP but that’s because I reload for it and it’s what I could find | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-08-07 |
I wish there was more gel data for the Underwood Tac XPs. The 155s XTPs are proven | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-08-07 |
Tac xp. I've whacked enough hogs with the 10mm to be sure of that | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
All Underwood Ammo has potential and will kill pretty much any living mammal on the list of the non extinct. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
This. The real question with “urban self defense” is which will over penetrate the least. I keep a mag of XTP in my G20 gen 5. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
Try [Ammoseek](https://ammoseek.com/ammo/10mm-auto/Underwood-handgun-155grains?ca=brass&co=new&sh=average&ikw=Xtp). There’s good pricing there regularly and shipping sort | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
[Should have chosen better because of this video.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6kUvi72s0Y) | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
What happened with underwood offering of Gold Dots? | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
I think that video supports my choice | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
If you are talking urban self defense and CCW, either of those will probably get the job done.
The "hunting" part is where it gets fuzzy for me... My carry gun when I hunt/hike is not usually what I am hunting with, it is there for self defense against dangerous critters. If I am carrying my 10mm, I am in bear count... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
Go with 155 grain. It’s 1450-1550FPS 10-12 inches penetration and 700-750 LBS ft of preessure | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
I was waiting on the 165gr Gold Dots and emailed them a while ago and they replied saying that they can't get the bullets from Speer. Who knows if it was due to supply chain issues or Speer (Vista) not wanting to keep giving them out to other ammunition companies. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
155 xtp!! | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
The 135 Sporting HPs | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-10-07 |
I'm stubborn to a fault, also.
Best to all. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-10-07 |
155gr xtp are more popular. I chose them as a primary to the 100gr defenders as back up (mostly for the weight in the pocket). Out of town obviously this is going to favor hardcast as primary and 155gr xtp as back ups. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-10-07 |
Underwood performance on gel is **impressive**. It’s what I carry and surprised it’s not more popular. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-11-07 |
Probably the XTP | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-12-07 |
I’ve been thinking about a 10mm pistol for hunting purposes for a while, but I’ve recently discovered 460 Rowland. Curious what this community thinks about 460 vs 10mm for a hunting pistol. For example, Glock 40 in 10mm vs Glock 21/41 with a 460 conversion kit. | r/10mm | post | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
454 casull or 44 mag | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
10mm is more available.
You can likely get a little more velocity out of the same bullet weight with the 460 but only marginally so. Penetration will be more down to bullet selection than calibre selection. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
Hunting what? Sasquatch? Someone JUST killed a giant grizzly with a 10mm, and it’s plenty for deer and such. If you’re talking about like moose, .460 could be more viable. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
I was also considering this option in a revolver. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
10mm is cheaper, more available, and has faster follow up shots
Full power 10mm is comparable to .357 magnum
460 Rowland is comparable to 41 magnum
460 Rowland is overkill. Full power 10mm can take down any threat besides an elephant but 460 Rowland can’t take down elephants either.
You’re way better off mag dumpi... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
44mag is the answer.
A revolver is good for this.
Or if you have money to burn and big hands, a desert eagle can scratch this itch. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
If you handload, go 460 Rowland. If not, 10mm will handle 95% of North American game with factory loaded ammo.
I have a 10mm and love it. Really considered doing a 460 conversion to a 1911 I had, but overall, I decided it wasn't for me. 460 will require a compensator of some sort and a much heavier recoil spring. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
You aren’t mag dumping when hunting. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
10mm, but .40 super is pretty interesting too | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
You don't know how I hunt! | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
If you're going to go with a revolver, you might as well go big. I use a 460 S&W for hand gun hunting. You don't always have to shoot full power 460S&W like you do with 500mag. The 460 can also shoot 454Casull and 45 long Colt just like the 460 Roland can shoot 45 super and 45 ACP. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
I have a 460 Rowland 1911, it's a step up from a 10mm recoil wise. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
If it was me I would let 429 DE be my choice over the 44 mag | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
I’m pretty sure .460 is more comparable to 44 mag. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
Reliability is lacking with the .460 conversions, probably why I haven’t gotten one. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
What are you hunting? I don’t know how anyone could even consider answering without knowing your use case.
Huntin Rabbit? Maybe a 22 is best. Cape Buffalo? You’ll want at least a 9mm for that. Is this a backup gun for your elk hunts in grizzly country?
That said…I believe a semi auto 10mm is just about the mo... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
Cut it for moon clips and you can shoot 460 Roland, 45 super and 45 acp out of a 460 xvr revolver… | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
We use the 10mm for grizzlies up here in Alaska if that tells you anything. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
Would 460 need a comp with a 1911? | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-10-07 |
Everything I've seen on the 460 says it will need a comp | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-10-07 |
Lucked up and got a new FN 510 Tactical for $699 from Brownells. Thanks Reddit!
Huge thanks to the person in the r/FNHerstal subreddit who shared the really great deal that Brownell’s had on the FN 510 Tactical, and 545 Tactical!! 🙏 Because of their info I ended up getting my 510 Tactical for $744 total - after tax... | r/10mm | post | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
Nice - some $500 less than I paid for mine; before extra mags and a DPP optic!
I need to get mine set up and do some more shooting with it. I think it's my favorite 10mm, but I need to set it up comparably to the X-TEN and shoot both the same day. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
Oh! Do follow up with what holster you end up getting, and if it's light bearing capable. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
FN still has their $100 rebate going on I think, would make this a $600 deal. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
I think when you get it from Brownell’s they roll the $100 rebate in upfront. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
Ahh ok that would’ve been too good I guess | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
I bought a watchdog tactical OWB Kydex holster for it and am waiting on a Level 2 Duty holster from Grey Man Solutions that should be here in about a month.
The Grey Man Solutions holster is being paired with Surefire X300 Turbo weapon mounted light. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
I still plan on getting an RMR HD, Surefire X300 Turbo, 5 extra mags for both the 545 and 510. These will be my home defense and woods guns. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
Nice - I'll look them up. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
And I thought my purchase from family firearms a while back for 820 was good, that's a stellar deal. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
Ok do the discount still wark? | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
Man I really want the non-tactical version of this gun. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
What a steal, the best price I got for the 510 was $785 but no tactical. Chose Glock instead but you posting this makes me want to add to my 10mm collection (I only have one 10mm) | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
You should definitely consider adding to your 10mm collection because you can’t go wrong with a FN 510 Tactical. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-10-07 |
Awesome. I paid $699 for my FNX-45 T and it felt naughty. If I scored this I'd probably have to go do charity work. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-10-07 |
Wow! That’s an even bigger discount than what I got since the FNX-45T has a MSRP more than the FN 510T. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-10-07 |
It was pretty nutty. Ten people in town got a smoking [deal.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Firearms/s/ZAwVv5zcLT) | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-10-07 |
$700 wow hell yeah | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-10-07 |
Hell yea!! | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-10-07 |
Been looking at these for months. Got about 15k rounds of 9mm or I'd of had one 2 months ago but I'm trying not to buy ammo til Sept. Then I'll drop 2k on the FN optic and 9&10mm. Gonna be having fun this fall. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-11-07 |
The FN 510 MRD is currently 699 at family firearms. Rebate for $75 is still good until 8/15.
Brings it to about $650 after shipping. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-02-08 |
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I carry this little baddie more than any other | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
SF the best | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
Can’t wait to nab a gen5 of these babies. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
I bought a Gen 5 and it's amazing. I was set on buying a Gen 4 because that's what my local FFL had. Next day when I go in ready to sign the paperwork, the dude busts out a Gen 5 and asks if I was interested. It was about $30 less too so I signed the paperwork for a Gen 5! | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-09-07 |
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