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If Anyone is interested someone spent alot of time and money chronograph testing 38 different factory 10mm loadings from a XDM Elite 4.5 Here is a link. https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/which-factory-10mm-loads-are-full-power-with-chrono-results-of-38-factory-loads.1944420/
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2024-11-07
They charge tax to WA.
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2024-11-07
Thanks for the link, that’s great info.
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2024-11-07
You're welcome, I'm always happy to share info.
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2024-11-07
New York did us dirty too
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2024-11-07
I’d have to disagree here. 200g CCBlazers are in my opinion the best 10mm ammo for the range. Price, quality, and reliability. To each their own of course.
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2024-11-07
I use Sig Elite 180gr FMJ to practice, and I carry Underwood 180gr XTP. Not hating on anyone for using something else, just being honest about my opinion. I shoot full power 10mm so I choose to practice with as close to full power as I can get without overspending on Underwood FMJ.
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2024-12-07
I respectfully disagree with both of you and would counter with... Sig Elite is objectively the best quality and most powerful range ammo you can get. Can't argue with chrono results.
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2024-12-07
.72 cents a round for range ammo? (Source: AmmoSeek)
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2024-12-07
Was gonna say I just bought this.
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2024-12-07
Just fine for range ammo
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2024-12-07
Yeah fuck that
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2024-12-07
That's much more expensive than it usually is, but yeah either way, if you can't afford full power 10mm I don't see the point in owning 10mm weapons. Just buy a .40 and save even more $. It's literally what you're shooting anyway, and you're paying more for it because it's in a 10mm case. My $.02
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2024-12-07
Where do you get your ammo? Because from what I can see that’s been the price on AmmoSeek for months. Respectfully, you seem like you’re full of shit……respectfully.
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2024-12-07
The aluminum stuff?
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2024-12-07
The 200g come in aluminum (my personal preference never had a problem. G29/G20 both over 2000 rounds each) The 180g come in brass
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2024-12-07
As new to 10mm and Glonk I’m kinda shit at shooting my new 20 like my CZ 9mm so I just ordered some “light stuff” to practice
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2024-12-07
Underwood FMJ is .77 cents a round, only 5 cents more than Sig. “If you can’t afford full power 10mm I don’t see the point in owning 10mm weapons.” Allow me to proceed to tell you to go fuck yourself you pretentious cuckold………..respectfully.
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Dude, I don't need to nickel and dime my ammo purchases, so I actually don't give a shit what the Sig or the Underwood costs. The Sig FMJ is the hottest loaded FMJ I can find that isn't Underwood or Buffalo Bore, and that's all I care about. Not everyone shoots the cheapest shit possible. Plus, the Sig stuff goes on sa...
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2024-12-07
Nice projection dude 🤣
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2024-12-07
Wow, you’re an idiot…….respectfully
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2024-12-07
You wouldn’t bust a grape in a fruit fight…….respectfully
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2024-12-07
Not a good deal
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2024-12-07
100% S&B makes garbage 10mm Their 9mm is also garbage Don't buy S&B if you want properly specified ammo
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2024-12-07
bro i started off the same and practicing with hotter loads is the way, over time you'll get better
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2024-12-07
Yeah I have like 400 of magtech and a case of this stuff on the way because it was such a good deal without. I’m just trying to figure out my hold it’s frustrating
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2024-12-07
i feel for you bro i don't have large meaty hands which makes it harder also, best of luck bro and practice makes perfect
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2024-12-07
I plan on getting a Glock 20 10mm anybody recommend any holsters
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2024-11-07
Look at alien gear has a good modular pack. I get hate when I recommend but I have found them to be a good product ymmv
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2024-11-07
I carry mine in a serpa holster, more hiking not really a ccw thing. I hear alot of good about khydex chest rigs too like the kenai rig, I like the retention and ease in the serpa and the system has been used in Alaska on a successful brown bear attack defense shooting. So has pocket carry tho haha not that I recommend...
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2024-11-07
Open carry
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2024-11-07
fixed my typos lol not sure why the downvotes. here is the article https://www.ammoland.com/2019/10/alaskans-stop-grizzly-bear-charge-with-glock-10mm-on-elmendorf-richardson/ I like the idea of a retention holster that attaches to a bino cheat harness. Will be trying out a safariland soon for my 9mm so I’ll be able ...
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2024-11-07
Dara Holsters
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2024-11-07
I just got a nice kydex from zero28 for G20.5
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2024-11-07
Agreed, I have the same bin of holsters laying around as we all do. The Alien Gear Shapeshifter is one the most comfortable holsters ever. Is it the best, probably not, but for the price, you'll get a few years out of it.👍
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2024-11-07
I recommend you buy the slim fit appendix holster that I don’t use. It has mismatching brand of clips but I’ll sell it for cheap. Optic and optic height sights option. $12 plus 100% of shipping cost Edit: nvm it’s not open carry
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2024-11-07
Cranky Texan holsters and Black point tactical.
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2024-11-07
T.Rex OWB works great for the Glock 20.
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Faltac Unlimited
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Bordertown holsters. I've got 5 different holsters from them
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2024-11-07
Safariland holsters
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2024-11-07
Serpa cqc
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2024-12-07
The light bearing DARA is perfect and will grow with you.
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Vedder light tuck works great with my Glock 20
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2024-12-07
Does anyone have a good recommendation for a good glock 20 iwb holster
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2024-11-07
You guys gotta start coming up with better titles. - https://old.reddit.com/r/10mm/comments/1e0oop3/holster/ You probably want to say if it's gen 5 or not. A lot of holsters for gen 4 and earlier won't accommodate gen 5.
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I got a Dara outside lvl 2 for range stuff for my g20 gen 5 with a tlr-1hl and red dot I know you asked for IWB I would see if they have any I had to look a long time to find the right holster. It’s easier to find holsters for Gen 4 and under though, g21 holsters should also work
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2024-11-07
Comp-Tac!
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Galco summer comfort
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2024-15-07
Anyone running a 507c or 407C on a Glock 20 with a CH Percision plate? I am just wondering if the optic will stand up to the recoil. Thanks
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CH plates are dogshit. The CNC Pros are the way to go. Edit: don’t hate me because I’m right.
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C&H plates are fine. I run one on my FN 510 with a PB-3 with zero problems.
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2024-11-07
I saw a ch precision plate busted on here or on YouTube in the last week. Prob try what the other poster suggested
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2024-11-07
Ive been running a 407C on my 20.5 with just the oem mos plate No issues…
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2024-12-07
Trijicon RMR all bay
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I shot a few boxes of LCD 60gr. Quite loud, excellent fireballs.
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IIRC, the 60gr has very light armor piercing capabilities
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Just shot a box of these with some buffalo bore thru my xdm and both ran smoothly
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Shot a few boxes of those couple years ago. No issues
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But terrific fragmentation!
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Shot the 60gr stuff. Stupid fast, not really practical
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Yes, because the low grain count it works flawlessly in my vector. Anything above 120gr has FTF issues. But that’s a vector issue 😑
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I use the Civil Defense version, which is 60gr and 2400fps. Loud as hell! Little less recoil than normal 180/200gr rounds. I have them for home defense. I love how impactful they are with little chance of over penetration. If I ever have to fire it to protect my home, im pretty sure my hearing will be destroyed, so I...
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2024-11-07
I have them in 9mm and 40sw they feed just fine
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2024-12-07
Why did I get down voted? I'm right
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2024-12-07
I assume because no one looking for 70 grain hollows is expecting or cares much about high penetration
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2024-12-07
I tell you this I can carry my 10 like a g26 no bs ,😭😭😭
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2024-12-07
🤣🤣🤣
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2024-12-07
I saw some 9mm gel tests. Brutal wound cavity, but only a few inches of penetration.
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2024-15-07
Any recommendations on carry ammo and a IWB holster that can accommodate the optic and flashlight?
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Ammo: Underwood Xtreme Defenders Holster: Dara Holsters
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ammo: Underwood XTPs. 200gr has a higher risk of overpenetration. Keep it between 135gr and 180gr. I used to be a Bigger is Better guy, but 135gr at 1700fps is no joke. holster: Look into Crossbreed holsters, see if they have any that will handle a flashlight.
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Vedder might have a compatible holster for you. I like my IWB holster from the more than the OWB! Quite comfortable for such a chunky gun.
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Werkz has iwb in stock, make sure you select gen 5. Light options are a little less but you have to look around. Make sure they list a gen 5 or call/email to confirm before ordering. I know from experience when the gen 5 g20 came out I was a test pig for gunfighters inc and Werkz. Even with a light, the dust cover/fram...
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Underwood, and DARA holsters
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Underwood 150gr is my favorite
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Underwood XTP
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Underwood Extreme Defenders I run a Tier 1 MSP Pro which uses my TLR1-HL for the retention. I have a Holosun 509T on my 20.5 as well. The holster is great because I run the TLR1-HL on several full-sized pistols and can carry them all using the same holster.
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2024-13-07
I can only speak to what I have experience with and that’s 200grain federal hst. Underpowered for 10mm but shoots very smoothly. Holster is the trex arms ironside
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Hello, all. I've got a startup security company and will be doing only armed security with expectations to expand into executive and government contracts. 10mm is best millimeter. I want to issue 10mm handguns to my employees for a couple reasons. All of the reasons members of this thread are aware on why it is the be...
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The xten is much nicer to shoot than glocks for sure. It feels like a 9mm in hand. Makes it easier to control without monster hands.
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FN 510 and Dara level 2 holsters
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I hate to say it but I’d stick to 9mm here. I love 10mm and carry it almost every day, but unless youre around dangerous game its just not a smart move for the business from a cost point and a training point/user ability. If you let your employee choose their own weapon how many would pick a g20 in 10mm? Choose the e...
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I’m liking 10mm but I get hits with 9mmP faster. Besides I like having more capacity in a smaller, lighter handgun.
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We’re going to stay a smaller company in regard to the number of employees, but in my career I’ve built up enough contacts where I have a group of guys ready to work who can handle 10mm. With the much better terminal ballistic performance of the 10mm, specifically the 200gr HST, fewer rounds necessary to induce either...
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Thank you! I looked at their regular duty holster and gave up before finding the light bearing version actually had a lot more options.
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Absolutely agreed, 9mm is the industry standard for a reason. From a training and cost perspective, which are extremely important, it’s the obvious choice. I asked my core group of about ten guys how they felt about calibers. 9mm was a choice everyone was good with, but surprisingly, so was 10mm. Nobody wanted 5.7, .4...
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What about the 3rd Gen S&W pistols that were 10mm service weapons?
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My understanding is that they were single-stack, and I’m not sure if they’d be a good option for aftermarket support or availability. I’ve seen some posts when I briefly looked through here and they seem like fine enough firearms in their own right. I guess I should’ve clarified that a double-stack with 15+1 capacity ...
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I agree with others; while 10mm does possess more wounding capability, even if you're employing nothing but bona fide shooters, it's still easier to get more shots on target and faster with 9mm, and shot placement trumps ballistics with pistols. Perhaps you have some Glock 20s in the arsenal for your outdoor security g...
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A proper response from “pragmaticdefender,” if I might say. I agree, whether Glock 45 or P320 X-Carry AXG, a proper red dot and light in a Safariland 6000 series will probably suffice from the branding perspective as well. There probably won’t be any professionals I want to employ who’d be turned off by either of thos...
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They are all 9+1 Single stack guns (10*6 series), But all Stainless and built for full-power 10mm.
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We all know 10mm is in fact the best mm. However, it has its role and I don’t think private security is it. Unless you have legitimate threats from large animals i would stick with 9mm. 10mm is undoubtedly harder to control, that is not arguable. If your guys can handle 10mm, they can handle 9mm better and faster. My f...
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2024-12-07
I died laughing reading this.
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2024-12-07
RIP 🌸
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2024-12-07
Gecko45 vibes
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For holster option and gear Go GLOCK G20. I love the FN 510 but anything but the Glock you just don’t have 1/2 the availability. Agencies have been carrying G21 (same footprint as G20) for years. List is a mile long for support. As a recent adapter of FN- I spend so much time trying to find holsters that meet my needs...
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I would isssue 9mm and if leave 10mm an open option, cheaper and easier to train with 9mm. No point in having a bunch of guys who can’t hit shit because they couldn’t afford to train. Handing 10mm and being proficient or two very different things. Most people can handle slower shots of 10mm, but if you have to shoot in...
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As a business owner, consider the overpentration of 10mm not as a pro but as a liability when a lawyer is arguing against you that you chose an "overpowered" round intentionally.
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