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I work with rec players all day and most are in for a rude awakening when they start playing matches. (I'm the director of a large tennis program in Sydney, Aus). Most think they have mental issues, mental faults, and mental problems, but for most players, it's about *how* you're practicing. I'm going bald, and the b...
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> Most think they have mental issues, mental faults, and mental problems, Yeah, it's pretty crazy. It's like somebody that once hit 7 three pointers in a row while shooting around one night with their grandpa wondering why they have such mental issues during pick up games when there's an athletic person waving a hand...
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The problem is people are not willing to put in the necessary work. A pro can identify the problem and provide advice but MOST rec players refuse to put in the hard work. They can’t be bothered to practice placement nor work on their overheads. I’ve literally heard players say that they’ll “figure it out” during match ...
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2024-13-07
I mean, it comes down to playing alot of matches. If you do that you'll become comfortable with the nuances if how they go. But I feel most people would rather have a smooth hit for 45 mins than the constant competitive and rhythmic struggle that is a tennis match.
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For the longest time, I played with people who refused to play sets for whatever reason. They just wanted to rally and rally and rally. It was fun and some points would get a lil competitive - yes - but it also meant there was a lot of 'stupid' shots that you would never go for in a competitive match because it only ha...
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The shot which kills people when they start match play is the short ball because they don't practice putting it away. They kind of assume that shot is easy and if they get a ball near the net, they have basically won the point. Then they play a match, play all their baseline shots, they have spent so long practicing a...
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2nd serve is tricky because it still needs some punch while remaining solid. I kept losing against players who killed my 2nd serve. A lot of double faults and lost clubmatches later I now gave a punchy and somewhat solid second serve. Also, losing tennis matches is harmless if you can forget your ego.
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What are blocked and variable modes, and what makes you think that the readers of r/10s would be familiar with those terms?
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2024-13-07
This is such good advice, if hitting from the baseline is working the point, putting away the short ball is getting paid. Who wants to go to work and not get paid?
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The thing to remember is you only have to win around 54% of your points to win a match. So it doesn't matter if you lose a large percentage of second serve points. Even the pros only win about 50% of them. It is all about playing the odds and risk management.
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Blocked practice to random practice exist on a continuum. Totally blocked practice would be like hitting a repeated forehand crosscourt shot off a similar feed or in the most extreme example off a tee. You could increase the in skill variability by alternating between slice feeds and topspin feeds or the between skill...
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The vast vast majority of rec players are playing tennis for a combination of fun and a cardio workout. Sometimes even just to socialize. There is no reason for those players to add unneeded pressure to what they perceive as a hobby. It’s like the difference between people joining their local gym after New Years vs ...
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You need competitive play to be good. That’s indisputable. But having a partner who will *just rally* with you for hours and hours is the one of the most precious things in this world. You need to play sets and competitive games too. But the act of just grooving strokes thousands of times in a week is what took my ga...
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I somehow relax playing matches and play my best tennis 🤷‍♂️ I have ADHD. But waiting to recieve or going through a serve routine, all the noise falls away
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Yep, you need both.
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I play plenty of sets with a group of guys we have here. So we hit all kinds of shots, all similar rating levels. Put me in a USTA match and I rarely play as well cause I get in my own head and tense up. I have played 17 USTA matches this past 3 years and I still tense up. I'd say I played to the level I expect may...
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>random this is why playing against a wall is so helpful
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>Sometimes even just to socialize Sometimes? The vast majority, cant blame them. Matches are only fun if u have the skill set
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I’m a high 3.5. I win almost every practice match against 3.5s. I’m now in a 6.5 league with a 3.0 (maybe even closer to 2.5 - she makes so many unforced errors). Our opponents figure she’s the weaker player in game 2 and send the ball her way for the rest of the match(es). we inevitably lose bad. She’s been playing as...
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Played a tournament today and got hammered 6-0, 6-2 by a guy with a lower rating. He finished almost every point with a winner, barely made an error. I didn’t even make many errors myself, zero doubles faults, first serve percentage high. Because it was raining we had to play on indoors hardcourt instead of clay. There...
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That's only part of the problem. I've known many people who don't do any "just hitting" except as a warm up and always play matches, and they do poorly in tournaments. Several refuse to play tournaments at all because they don't like the experience. "Real" competition in an official match has a very different energy t...
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I’m in this camp. I have young kids and work, so even though I kind of want to improve my game play, what little time I have, I’m prioritizing rallying to get exercise in, and practicing fundamentals. (It’s also I’m not a competitive person, and even casual round robins at local clubs are at like dinner/bedtime with th...
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Losing the warmup but winning the match…
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As an ex-college player, if you’re not practicing with purpose, why bother unless, as others have said, you’re just happy to have the cardio/social benefits of the game. My college coach used to pull us off the court after a point and put us on the spot: why did you choose that stroke, why did you hit it to that spot,...
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Another issue is in hitting around you can go big over and over. You can develop the mentality that you will win points just by creating some heavy ball that no one can handle. Which is stupid and reinforces zero strategy. It also doesn’t let you develop the most used shot in tennis which is the 60% power shot. I th...
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Thats why I never practice, only play matches 😇
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I'm a dirt league player and it's just a logistics thing for me. I'll play 4-5 times most weeks and it looks something like: * Club night to hit with better players. A bit of a crapshoot because it's doubles so sometimes it's a waste of time. * Match day. I generally warm up for about 45 minutes beforehand. * Hit wi...
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Great analogy. My specialty is pro bono work
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I think it’s short court issues and true match fitness for most of us.
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I get tight. That's my issue,I need to play more. Drills are the best for me because we practice live how it would be in a match. But. You bring up a good point when it comes to solo practice, I do cross court in mostly and it's not very realistic. I should do random settings more I agree
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Most 3.5- players are at a point with their footwork and groundstroke fundamentals that if you have them work on random shots nothing constructive can come out of the session. Also many are so outta shape they need to go work out before i can dream of trying to keep their Posture correct as they run down balls
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Nothing to add except to say that my kids attend your after school program (which is great) The parking lot is also either blocked, variable or random and I feel I need a mental performance consultant after trying to drop them off Also - The lady-of-a-certain-age who is behind the desk is amazing. Love her
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one I’ve heard a lot is “as the match progresses, I cant maintain my shot quality and serve percentage” tired. you are tired.
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Yes, this comment is a great way of thinking about it. Thank you!
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2024-14-07
You can also play a lot of matches and get comfortable in that scenario. It often takes players 5-6 matches to get back into the swing/rhythm of things. My experience is that this is more because of their poor practice structure as opposed to anything else
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Very nice! Thank you. Yes, learning to read different depths and taking advantage of short balls will definitely help.
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Thank you! Yes, i work with a few players online and a big complaint is that players either want to do just easy rallies through the middle or only play matches.
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Yes, i would say more than rally with you, you need a partner willing to engage in deliberate practice with you. A lot of my players complain that it's difficult to find great practice partners who will do this!
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Oh man. Tell me about it! Players will come to me and nod along when I say, "making this change will take a lot of time. Working on it once a week with me is not enough. You need to go out and practice this multiple times a week to consolidate and improve on our session today. Probably 1 out of 15 *actually* do the wor...
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u/TheSavagePost did a good job explaining what it is. I don't think they would be familiar with it, but I have to find a balance between trying to provide value in my post and getting people to read my newsletter.
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This is rare! Good for you.
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Very nice! Feedback is one of the most important components of deliberate practice
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It's a strange balance right. If you have crappy strokes, then yes, you need to spend time in blocked and variable modes making sure you learn to hit the ball well. But after you can, then you need a lot of random work
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Haha. Thanks!
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I get it—us tennis pros have this problem where we wish the players we work with would just practice and follow our advice! But that's not the reality and often not possible because as you said: you have a limited amount of time to work with
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Absolutely, there's a component of playing in tournaments and big events that certainly is mental. So I'm not discounting that
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2024-14-07
Practice with purpose definitely helps
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Good luck
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Interesting. Why do you think this is? Lack of plan/targets? Perhaps working with a CMPC is a good idea for you!
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In an ideal world, I want like 30 minutes of hitting, and then a match (multiple sets). And then a cool down of like 20 minutes of rallying. If I do spend a whole session not playing sets, then I'd want it to be dedicated to practicing things properly and not just rallying. Like maybe do cross court forehand to foreh...
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This is normal. Tennis is fantastic when you have ADHD because it consumes your entire mental capacity. You relax because you can be fully in the moment, which is not the case when in block/variable practice. The latter I find particularly difficult because I always forget what to do next, or I can't focus on the task ...
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I’m also a coach. The frustrating part is that on many occasions I literally offer my services FREE of charge for 30-60 minutes to work on specific shots/scenarios and very few ever take it. As you correctly state they’d rather play a “fun match” instead of grinding to improve their game. I just get mad when these same...
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2024-15-07
Agree—working with players like that can be super frustrating!
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Main part of it is not wanting to let my partner down or the team. I feel the added pressure. When the pressure is off I go back to normal. It's not even immense pressure I'm feeling, just enough to make me tense up a little and being a flat ball hitter there isn't a ton of room for error.
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2024-15-07
Matches are a different dynamic. Practice is mainly for working on stuff to get prepared
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It can absolutely be both. I get nervous as fuck playing sets with new players and often forget how to serve, even though my well practiced serve is fine with people I know well or by myself.
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Yeah anything that requires a coach is tough you can have a friendly hit with your friend but it's not particularly fun for the other person of you are smashing away volleys and pur aways.
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I’m a casual player who’s looking to move a little more advanced into the sport and am looking new racket after cracking the frame of my Wilson Ultra. I read on their website that the Ultra is seen as a more “beginner” racket, does anyone have any suggestions on what to get next? I know the Wilson brand well but I’m op...
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I wouldn't consider the ultra for beginners. I know advanced players who can use it... It's kind the very stiff good baseline equivalent to a Babolat pure drive which they also say can be for beginners but advanced players use it as well. I think you can't go wrong with a Wilson clash 100 or blade 98 or 100 would be a...
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The Blade is the popular line from Wilson. Good for any level.
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Agree on this - I'm thinking of trying out an Ultra for a little bit more pop actually (on my third Blade right now). New Clash and Shift also has me interested. Just wish they made the Ultra in a 98.
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The ultra pro is basically not really related to the ultra but rather just a popular racket shape that was a code name H19 (monfils and Madison keys popularly used it). With that said, it's a 97 sq in, pretty skinny I think 20mm depth, and is a pretty advanced racket. Reminds me of a Blade or Pro Staff but I like it mo...
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Ultra 300g can be used your whole tennis life if you want. New racquet won’t help you get better. At a certain point in your development, when you learn enough skills to play with variety, you can try getting a different racquet that will make certain things easier. But professionals of all play with all kinds of rac...
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Oh that sounds like a perfect fit for me (which is the new Blades have no feel and the PS is a bit stiff for me; I’d like something a bit softer on the arm).
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The Ultra Pro is actually 98sq in, even though it is advertised as a 97. H19s all have 98sq in hoops. But the Ultra Pro is a great platform racquet that needs customization - no weight in the hoop and pretty unstable out of the box. If you are looking for power and spin, the Blade is probably better in those regards.
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Clash is kind of going the opposite way, isn’t it?
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I've seen 5.0s use the clash. They crush with it. I'm a 4.5 and also own a clash and if I just want something easier on the arm (like if I'm helping teach a friend) I am happy to use the clash. When I had elbow issues I used a clash at 4.0 level that helped me get to 4.5 with a lot of wins under my belt. I have also u...
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People also really like the blade pro which is the code name H22 Wilson racket. I only played with it for a few minutes so can't speak much of it but could be worth trying. The main issue is stores I don't think will get that or the ultra pro for demo... But tennis warehouse might have it for demo possibly.
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Hello, i noticed during a last session of serve training that its much easier to put spin if i hold the racket higher on the handle. I get more feel this way and i can do the kick or the slice motion easier this way than holding closer to the buttcup. Is this happening to any of you as well ? Is it normal? What am I...
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It's easier for me pronate when I hold the racquet higher than I normally would (I used to grip it at the very bottom).
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normal but you lose a lot of potential power spin etc down the track. i think it's fine to warm up with, if your normal serve is lower on the handle.
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i grip it higher when i start serve warmups. that's it though. they mostly go into the net. you will lose power from gripping high. wouldn't recommend it.
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2024-13-07
Ok you go on about how this racquet lacks control and that racquet is a control racquet but for a 3 and under would we even notice? Speaking on behalf of all 3 and unders here. Thanks
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I would say no. control-wise not really. I have noticed that beginners are still struggling to hit with correct form, footwork, spacing and generating power. Control from racquet won't be noticable until you can control the above to certain extent. The exception being on net play, as control racquet is more manuverable...
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I think if we're talking extremes, say you had a really oversized power racket (like a Wilson hyper hammer 5.3) and then go to a control racket like Head Prestige Pro, you'll notice how under powered the prestige is. You can no longer just use your wrist and forearm like you would with the Hyper Hammer to blast it with...
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the only thing 3.0 and under will notice is weight
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Yes, everyone will have some change in their placement based on change in equipment from one end of the spectrum vs. The other. 3s and under honestly might notice the most between control and very spin since they have the most variance in shot quality.
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https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/guys-only-best-legs-and-other-best-female-issues.87961/ Thoughts on this thread? Anyone find it repulsive?
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I’m a guy, but I have 4 daughters and just found this thread baffling.
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Your repulsed that dudes find females attractive?
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It's a 2006 thread man, get over it.
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Eh, there’s a lot worse on Reddit. I’m more repulsed by their bad taste — everyone knows Steffi’s got the all-time GOAT legs.
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I wouldn’t participate in the thread, but this brand of engaged pearl clutching you’re doing is what I find repulsive.
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This is what happens when you accidentally schedule your post 18 years into the future 😂.
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Baffling? Cmon now…
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account created 12 days ago with practically zero posting history… what are you trying to do?
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Your post was removed as it is considered irrelevant to this subreddit. Please keep all posts relevant in some way to the topic of this subreddit, ie playing tennis. General posts about professional tennis should be posted in our sister sub r/tennis.
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* 167cm female, 45kg so not a lot of power-- I am athletic in terms of getting to the ball and running around, but tennis technique needs some work I'm a JV tennis player looking to upgrade from a random second hand kid's racket. A friend recommended the Yonex Ezone 100 and Babolat PD 100 (can't demo in my country, s...
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Demo both, pick which one you like better. Each has its own benefits, but they will feel different. Some people like one more than the other for different reasons. Only way to know which is best for you is to try them both for yourself. Also, I would recommend demoing both at the same time so you can try them back to...
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You couldn't go wrong with either. Both have similar profiles in terms of them being more power orientated. Ezone would be easier on the arms than PD. It will come down to a demo for which one you like more.
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If you can’t demo, I’d do with the Ezone. Babolats have a tendency to cause arm issues in players that don’t get them from other brands. It’s not a guarantee but it’s something that does happen. The Ezone 100 is about the best all around racquet out there in my opinion. It’s always the one we left to people who come pl...
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Ezone 100 is quite versatile and forgiving. Considering your wrist trauma might be worth looking into Wilson Clash 100, IMO it provides a bit more comfort than Ezone. I’ve never played Babolat, but people say they tend to be stiffer.
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Okay, thank you for the advice !
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>(can't demo in my country,
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Ezone. No possiblity of arm problems from the racquet.
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thank you for the insight
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thanks, this was really helpful!
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I’m 15 and started playing tennis occasionally for 2 weeks. I originally started with a $20 wilson racquet from target. I love tennis and decided to to look into buying a new/used racquet. I’ve been looking at the Radical MP Graphene, my brother has that and I love the feel; It’s very light like my $20 racquet, but the...
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I think you're being sensible, as a beginner you don't need an expensive racket. Expensive rackets don't make you play better. My advice is to find a play test session, if you have such a thing in America. It is a session in which they bring down a bunch of rackets and let you try them out. That way you can find the o...
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I suggest you pick up a used pure drive or ezone on ebay or facebook marketplace. I've seen an old pure drive being sold for $40 and those things are great.
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