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: Rodaway himself admits that he is not the final opinion on the matter, but the evidence he presents in his book bolsters his argument on Culhwch ac Olwen's dating; the 1100 date favored by Bromwich, et al., was always based on flimsy evidence, anyway. As far as we can tell, the character of Peredur m. Efrawc did not exist prior to Chretien de Troyes writing Perceval, so there can hardly have been a pre-Chretien Peredur tale; the fact that the character's name was drawn from a Welsh translation of Geoffrey of Monmouth, the earliest MSS of which dates to the mid-13th century century, further supports the argument that Peredur is post-Chretien. Regarding your question about courtly material, I don't really understand your point - obviously a Welsh author familiar with French culture could have incorporated elements from it into a native tale - but that doesn't seem to be the case here, as there is no evidence for a pre-Norman Peredur tale. What we have here is a Welsh author reacting to French Perceval romances and adding in some traditional Welsh motifs to make the story more palatable to a Welsh audience.
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Hello I'm admin of Diyabaati Thaifans https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=420863128101072&set;=a.290879564432763.1073741829.100005321657073&type;=1&theater;¬if;_t=photo_comment I am allowed to edit info from Mr. Ashok Lokhande about his Birthday on wikipedia Please dont edit or delete about his birthday Thank you
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` ::: You say `` I'd like to hear you tell me why you and Rodway think it's the case. You're presenting it as though he has the final say on the subject, but maybe I'm reading you incorrectly.`` in response to me saying ``Rodaway himself admits that he is not the final opinion on the matter``??? If you can't be bothered to carefully read what I write and then claim I am saying the opposite of what I have written, this conversation is over. `
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` http://www.britannica.com/topic/Moor-people There is your source for Portugese People, moors. First paragraph. What tf does ``bit of scarlet`` mean?`
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` :I have created a new page called MGTOW (Men's rights). (It re-directs to Men's rights movement.) It appears in the search box whenever a User enters ``mgtow`` or ``MGTOW``. :If I can work out how to do it, I will change the title of ``Mgtow`` to ``MGTOW (Aviation)``. '''' `
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Hello ScrapIronIV, where is you problem you motherfucker? I try to make this page better and you deleted all my changes? Go to hell you fucking motherfucker!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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` What is Wikipedia? I fuck you and your fucking wikipedia in the ass. I am tired with your shit! I try to make the page ``Aromanians`` better and much more real. I am Aromanian and i know better what we are, not your fucking wikipedia. You want to have a good wikipedia? This is not good wikipedia, this is shit, to much informations are not real!`
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== Proposed Deletion of Qatari football transfers summer 2015 == i think this page should be deleted for following reasons; * It has no References * It is incomplete * It has no links to it * and finally out of respect to all the workers who died
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::Yes. I wanted to draw permanent attention to the difference in scale of their competing vehicles and this seemed to be a good place to do it. Also a good place to be corrected if I am wrong(!). Thanks,
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: Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Accessibility#Use of inaccessible markup in gridiron football infoboxes is widespread.
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` :This falls within the penumbra of Gamergate in my opinion. Were we talking about a user with a topic ban, I'd consider it to be within the bounds of the ban. `
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` :::The above discussions show a clear move towards consensus for replacing ``British nationalist`` with ``civic nationalist``, so this change can be made by an administrator without further discussions. I'm requesting that separately below. :::UKIP's immigration emphasis does need mentioning (there seems to be emerging consensus on that), but anti-immigration is considered too strong a description. ``Measured immigration`` sounds a bit vague and euphemistic, so would modifying ``anti-immigration`` to ``immigration reform`` or (better) ``immigration reduction`` be a suitable compromise (already Wiki pages, albeit US centred) be acceptable? Neither appear to be a particularly controversial description of UKIPs position, :::Direct democracy has not been discussed sufficiently yet to warrant the change, but it definitely is worth creating the discussion above. As is the possible removal of ``social conservatism`` which oddly I seem to be the only person harping on about. `
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` :It would help if you actually knew a little about mathematics and biology and the other subjects you are pushing your POV on. Greek mathematics is famous for many contributions, including the mathematical proof (arguably the most significant development in the history of mathematics), the method of exhaustion (direct precursor to calculus), conic sections, etc... I encourage you to learn a little about these topics before coming back here. You may learn that much of modern mathematics was actually developed by ancient Greek mathematicians. This is in contrast to Egyptian mathematics, which was not very advanced, and is mostly just famous for being old. True, it is old, but that's about it. The entirety of what's left of Egyptian mathematics consists of only three papyri containing little more than simple geometric formulas (e.g. calculating the area of a pyramidal frustum. So you can find a lot of sources filled with superlative generalizations of the type ``Egyptian mathematics is old``, ``Egypt is the cradle of mathematics bla bla bla``, but not much more than that. And you can try to fill the article with such superlatives, but not much more than that, because surprise, there isn'y much more than that to be said. And unlike you, I try to assume good faith (as hard as it is in your case), because I could easily infer that your anti-Greek obsession could be driven by the fact that you are from a neighboring country with a much less interesting and much shorter history, with far fewer contributions to human civilization (to put it mildly), but I don't. `
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`, 14 July 2015 (UTC) ::::::Since we don't see eye-to-eye on the ``following people around`` angle, I'm going to put that aside for now. Your arguments that ``this article has no bearing on WP:MED. This is a sociology issue.`` and ``This article is riddled with feminist POV content`` is similar to what men's rights editors, and similar-minded editors, have argued at the Domestic violence article, which is another article that Jytdog and I edit (the other medical editor of that article is ). Violence concerns health. To argue that domestic violence again men is not a medical topic makes no sense to me, considering the biomedical content it covers. The rate of domestic violence is also a medical topic; I already pointed to epidemiology above. Just like at the Domestic violence article, we have a few editors at the Domestic violence against men article unwilling to accept that the vast majority of the literature on domestic violence concerns women, and cites that women are victims of domestic violence far more than men are, and that we should therefore adhere to WP:Due weight in that regard. I pointed to WP:Valid (false balance) for a reason, because there are always editors complaining about some feminist agenda clouding an article that is covering a topic where women are known to be the majority of victims, when that article is simply reflecting what the vast majority of the literature on that topic states. This includes the Sexism article, where male and female editors have been clear with POV-pushing ``men suffer too`` and/or ``men suffer more`` editors time and time again that sexism is especially documented as affecting girls and women; that is why the Sexism article focuses so much on females. Similarly, that domestic violence is especially documented as affecting girls and women is why so much of the Domestic violence article focuses on females, and is why the Domestic violence against men article is so much about debating the topic of gender symmetry. You speak of ``run[ning] afoul of a variety of Wiki policies.`` I see none of that when it comes to your feminist claims. I am not interested in arguments that would have us give false balance; giving false balance is running afoul of a variety of Wiki policies, and is exactly why this article is a Talk:Men's rights movement/Article probation matter. 21:09`
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== Discography == Can someone format that section? It got deleted by someone and I tried restoring it but it is definitely messed up. Also in the future, is there a way to add a section that was deleted then to go back and find the version and copy the text? Thanks
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== Illegal zionist entity == hi, 58 country not recognized this entity, add article and delete all zionist jewish bullshit source, he is partial propaganda.
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` Please, change the username to ``Jim Peters``. So i can submit the text for content review. Thank you.`
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* No. The history of the current debate, and the recency of a previous discussion, means that it is far too soon to discuss another move: it distracts from real editing. It is only worth revisiting so soon if it is highly likely to change the earlier consensus. Please stop this discussion. (or Hrothulf)
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::::: I know how it's pronounced in Turkish. The question is whether there's a specific pronunciation that's dominant in English. If not, it's best not to include any English transcription or pronunciation audio file.
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` : The Planned Parenthood ``number of clinics`` stuff is irrelevant, though. The three diffs provided by Doug Weller above are the problem. The first and third delete sourced information, whilst the second introduces your own opinion without any sources. After you were blocked previously for making such edits, your first edits when your block expired were (a) to break 1RR on Planned Parenthood, and (b) then to make exactly the same edits again that got you blocked . Please stop doing that, or you will be repeatedly blocked again. Don't delete sourced information. Don't insert your own opinions. Thank you, `
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. Maybe it was a false start, but I will re-read guidelines and although Wikipedia has not a strict policy, I assure that I will be avoiding edit-wars
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. The change in her appearence is significantly shown throughout promotional content, you should be able to find out that her appearence was changed on Wikipedia on the main page of The Last Of Us
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== Is the national team a club? == So this is in Category:Association football clubs established in 1928. Why? |
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:There is some ambiguity, even to a native English speaker; however, everyone knows that the US and the EU are not in Asia, so no harm done. Placement at the end of the sentence and in parentheses lessens any ambiguity. You may try to craft a better, but, please, short and simple, alternative. a
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` :The same image appears in Anne Heller's Ayn Rand and the World She Made, where it is described in the caption as ``Rand's Russian passport photograph, dated October 29, 1925, when Rand was twenty years old.`` So the origin of the image appears accurate. I agree that it is not representative of the era of Rand's life in which she was notable, so on that basis it might be acceptable to switch back to a fair use photo of the mature Rand. Our content guidelines allow non-free images only when there is no free image ``that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose`` an arguable point in this instance. However, if this is going to be reverted it should happen soon, because the non-free file is subject to deletion tomorrow as an unused non-free image. `
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== Safety of walkers/runners in moth-ridden woodlands? == Is it safe to walk/run through woodlands populated by this type of moth? (There are warning signs about the moth being present on Wimbledon Common and in Richmond Park, in SW London, now.)
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:Hi , welcome to Wikipedia. If you are confident that your boss will fulfil the criteria of The Golden Rule, you can create a draft page at The Article Wizard. Experienced editors will then be able to give you feedback if the page needs improving. If you want more help, stop by the Teahouse, Wikipedia's live help channel, or the help desk to ask someone for assistance.
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== Images == Does anyone have the time to find a few copy right free images, especially any of Bernie and the crowd at his talk in Maine? I did a quick search early this morning but didn't find anything. Maybe someone else will have better luck. Thanks.
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` == Mission statement == One of your recent edits to Fedden Mission added a mention of the X Engine (DB604). I don't doubt the accuracy of the add, but I don't recall Christopher mentioning it as such. I don't want to just take it out, because it's a bit minor, but it could be misleading. Any thoughts? `
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:::How is a list of his appearances on other people's albums 'trivia'? It's basic discographical information. And as you can see, it's standard content for rappers' discographies. Also, the sources in the album articles must be sufficient if the album listings themselves don't need to be sourced, which seems to be the case per other high quality articles: Bob_Dylan#Discography, Elvis_Presley#Discography, The_Beatles#Discography, etc. I could see a case for sourcing anything that doesn't have its own article, however.
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* Concur: Current article has no references, and very little material at all. It should not be a separate article.
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== My hate list == Qed237 Sir Sputnik GiantSnowman Struway2 Egghead06 Xx236 Ubiquity Mattythewhite DangerousPanda Newbiepedian SDPatrolBot Saint0wen Patchy1 ... if you are on this list, DONT fucking edit any of my pages, especially if your name is in bold letters
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@ Okay, king of the Wikipedia Nazis! But I wasn't going to add Sony Pictures Animation's template to it and I learn my lesson. I just wanted to delete that note there because it is not need and stupid like you. Go to hell you freedom of speech killing Nazi and fuck you to hell!!
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==You Suck!== Dear King Shadeed you suck and are a Nazi. Drop Dead Alex
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:::::Uh, what? You can't arbitrarily declare that something is unfit for inclusion when it's included everywhere else on far higher quality articles. So please cite some precedent or policy to support your argument. -
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All you've done here is ignore my points and restate your unsubstantiated claim that the information is 'trivial' in your edit summary.
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Please familiarise yourself with Wikipedia:Consensus#Reaching_consensus_through_discussion. You have not achieved anything close to consensus here, and more importantly, you haven't even tried.
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We'll see about that you. I take you everytime! WHY IS UNCONSTRUCTIVE?!
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Na-What?! I told you! I swear and stopped! I was a very very smart GoAnimator and I can't settle it down!
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==Category:Colonial Chile== :Category:Colonial Chile, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you.
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:No problem. The thing that i would say with assistance is to remind some editors (though much has already been discussed about Rolandi, as you would have read my posts in the administrators board there are other editors) to stick by the rules and not to be dismissive about sources that are peer reviewed because they are not to ones liking, yet relevant to the article.
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` == Chill the hell out LOL == Bro you take shit too seriously. Honestly, awards are awards. Simple as that. ``Queen of Swag`` (I know it's an exaggerated and RETARDED example) cannot be used to set comparisons of awards. LOL, have fun with your edits. You do you, and I do me. So let's keep those awards until he gets more ``SERIOUS`` awards.`
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` : LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. JUST BECAUSE YOU EDIT ON WIKIPEDIA FOR FOUR YEARS NOW, DOESN'T MEAN I ASSUME YOU'RE HAVING FUN. YOU PROBABLY HAVE NO LIFE BECAUSE YOU DO THIS AS A ``LIVING``. ITS SO FUNNY HOW YOU GET BUTTHURT OVER THE STUPIDEST SHIT. LIKE YOU SAY THAT EXCESSIVE INFO ABOUT ``AWARDS`` IS RECKLESS. WELL MAYBE YOU SHOULD GET AN AWARD FOR BEING AN ASSHOLE ABOUT IT. MAYBE YOU HAVE SOME CHILL IN YOUR LIFE THEN YOU CAN STFU AND HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS LIKE ME. I DONT CARE WHAT YOU AND OTHER GUY THINKS. SO SORRY, YOU DO YOU. I DO ME.`
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: Get a fucking life mate or a job! You're Australian for crying out loud. Is there nothing you can do but sit around on a computer and edit? You're wasting your time on this page. The only reason why I'm replying to you is because it's funny how you try to start something but you can't. I don't care about your college education. The least you can do to me is reply in BIG WORDS. Do yourself a favor and jerk off.
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== The austrian painter. == In this article, why there's no mention of the avatar Hitler, who was sent to Earth by Vishnu to try stop vivisection? Vivisection is the direct descendant of the amassed animal sacrifice ritual at the Second Temple, it is the eternal battlefield between desert monotheism and lushful polytheism!
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== Lana/Hornswoggle/Torito == One would not be incorrect to label Lana, Hornswoggle, and El Torito as wrestlers. Lana is obviously in a feud with Summer Rae (as an offshoot of the Ziggler-Rusev feud), she has brawled with Summer, and it's apparent that it's leading to a match between the two (either one-on-one, or a mixed tag with their respective fellas). And the women should be given more leeway regarding this issue compared to the men anyway, as they don't wrestle nearly as many matches as the guys do (1 diva match - MAYBE 2 if they're lucky - per card) Lana is no longer just a wall flower who stays on the outside. And Torito and Horny have wrestled a ton of times. Granted mostly as comedy acts and not serious competitors, but they've wrestled plenty, and are not merely sidekicks.
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` ::I think you're splitting too many hairs here. It's very apparent that she and Summer are gonna have some business, and it's become obvious that she's graduated from from mere manager to a fighting diva. People like Paul Heyman or Zeb Colter or Hogan/Lita/Gunn (Tough Enough) are there in non-physical roles, and are listed as such. Lana has clearly made the jump from that status. Personally, I think the ``Other on-air personnel`` list should be strictly for those in non-physical roles. Once Lana started throwing down with Summer, and it became clear that they're destined for a match, then Lana showed that she's above being merely ``other personnel``. [[user talk:Vjmlhds|(talk)`
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:Bit short of time atm. I expect the Cameron article will be vigorously pruned -see wp:BRD as most contributions are ..but as you have wp:rs you can rewrite it meeting those complaints. Always assume people want a neutral article and are trying to be helpful. Some are! I usually get my own point across and can help you do the same with yours. Regards ::Re Osborne, can I suggest you persist with the excellent Independent article ..but NOT the daily Record -a tabloid. See wp:Suggested sources. Remove the existing article from the lead -as someone will probably do anyway. ) Add a section intended to give his political views on foodbanks. Say that according to the Independent he has never visited one -see WP:ATTRIBUTEPOV claiming they are not part of the welfare system. Add that he was criticized by .. You can also wp:BRD as the reason for the reinsertion. I would expect it to stay.
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:That isn't me, so you can kindly fuck off. I wouldn't even need to IP-edit you're so clearly in the wrong. -
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` Here is the conclusion of that paper; per WEIGHT and STICKTOSOURCES we need to make sure we don't overplay the risk: : Note e.g. that they say guidelines ``should continue to be enforced`` in e.g. the US, not that said guidelines aren't being enforced. • | • ) `
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The multitude of sources simply cannot be ignored. There are several articles stating the environmental impact. I will actually expand the section in the article because the monument is so big, people should know as a part of an encyclopedia the river bed violations. I would disagree with the arguments given above and that the edit should have more expansion within the article as a half dozen citations stating there are environmental issues. Also there is a persistent conflict of interest from the users above but from their follow-ups, there intentions will be clear.
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` : Hi! The release is actually on the source page, it's just very non-obvious. If you scroll to the bottom of the text section using their on-page scroll bar (not the browser scroll bar), you'll see a sentence below the listing of staff names that says ``The text of this page is released under the Creative Commons Zero Waiver 1.0.`` The website seems uncooperative with some browsers but I just checked and it's still there. Let me know if you need me to screenshot it for you. Cheers, —/ `
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:No problem. Thanks for the note. )
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, 19 July 2015 (UTC) ::::: Thank you very much, good luck! 05:39
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but still unblocked for sake of me asking
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I have provided you proof of fathers name. I have provided you proof of inaccuracies in you references. You cannot use these inaccurate references anymore. You are not a credible editor if you do and your edits will be undone.
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Replay from Hi Graham. OK so you've blocked me for a month. I'm okay with that. I apologize for messing up your FAC section. I need to say that you and that other admin guy, Ian Rose, have only ever struck me as decent as fair. But I'm not apologizing for anything else. Cliques sicken me. I'm an Oxford-educated Brit and can spot slime and hypocrisy a mile off. I consider the actions of Brian Boulton's clique to be a huge kick in the teeth to the many nominators whose articles will be archived due to lack of interest; I believe too that Boulton (and his clique) takes the piss because he knows you lack the authority to do anything. This is wrong, and you know it. You've got some really good guys here on Wikipedia, but you're allowing your FAC process to be devalued. I think this is a shame.
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Keep your propaganda away from this article. You are just another internet troll.
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` ``I'm so sorry, Oscar, love, but it's time for you to enter the RED AREA!`` `
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Looking back it turns out to be a rant then actual questions. These are my two questions: Am I violating any rule by that can result in blocking if I blank out the user pager for the IP address 141.217.233.69? Would you talk a look at the akshardham delhi article because if the environmental part is properly allow to be there? I am being accused of edit warring with the environmental part when the users have not reached consensus and majority are apart of that group to portray their sect in only a positive light. Here is it: Thank you again
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Have you even looked at the citations? I have updated the sources to include many primary and secondary citations. How is it false information if it is repeated by over a dozen books and sites? There is no consensus because several people in your claimed consensus have a conflict of interest in the group BAPS. Please do not revert again or else your will be in violation of wikipedia policy of vandalism. I am going to request for an administrator not affiliated with this discussion to look at it and the topic. I will expand that part in the heading in a article and you are welcome to help me. I have requested admin bbb23 to help me in the past and they have said no so I am going try to contact other admins. Please control yourself from reverting until then.
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== Akshardham Delhi Environmental Violations == Hello, If you have time would you please take a look at this article: and this discussion and provide your input. I feel fresh eyes and admin will bring proper clarity for this topic. Thank you
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== July 2015 == Get a job and stop doing drugs, you dumb hippie.
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` I've just skimmed this drivel I really don't have much time for it and noticed comments by CLIFTONIAN. I need to apologize to this man. I got out of Pattani towards the end of Ramadam and spent a few days in Singapore. Ramadam this year in Pattani was tough (Google ``Pattani Bomb`` to see what I mean, and perhaps look at the IMAGES, too). I got back to Pattani on Friday (the start of HARI RAYA) and had a few drinks. We all did. This was when I wrote my final comments. Yep what I did was wrong. I had no right to disrupt CLIFTONIAN's review. Being slightly drunk is not an excuse. I've checked the guy's profile page and would like to say that I have immense respect for the Israeli armed forces. I hope the guy is safer outside Tel Aviv than we are here in Pattani.`
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== Why was I blocked? == I don't see how I was blocked for contributing sources unlike the other guy who thinks what he contributes is accurate.
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` :: ::It's way too late to write this, but I have a late start tomorrow. You must NEVER allow people to disparage you for having served. What you did is a source of pride and self-respect. You must always remember this. ::Years ago I lived up in BKK, and my very best friend (Australian ex-special forces) trained some of you guys out in Cambodia. He always commented on how good you were. ::My friend was eventually shot dead outside his house in BKK back in 2001. That changed my life. But I'll tell you a story that happened in the late 90's. My friend and I did ``a mission`` in Burma and (after a series of events which I won't describe) ended up in a remote village in the middle of nowhere. The village was tiny, and tethered to a pole next to a teak tree was a strange-looking pig. But it wasn't a pig; nor was it a cow. It was the oddest-looking animal we'd ever seen. ::And then my friend worked it out the animal was a Javan rhinoceros. True story. `
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== A message to you Rudy == You are a lolcow
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== A Message to You Shadeed == Hey, I think you're a lolcow.
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== A Message to You Shadeed == Hey, I think you're a lolcow. N!gg@.
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` == Misleading complaint == The only ``edit war`` page I am reverting is HIstory of WWE, not list of WWE personnel. I am reverting because unlike RDBM, he does not source the facts and perhaps doesn't watch the product as he believes what I input is incorrect, when I clearly am as I watch the product and has been stated numerous times on numerous sources. Please stop blocking and block RDBM. He is incorrect. `
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== Hi Pete == You're a prick! Yours sincerely, someone who would never dream of buying such a rag as the MoS.
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Newsflash: journalist fails at using English correctly without a spellcheck; so much for being the nation's most hated pedant. He isn't even worthy of that title!
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:::::P.S. How about a nice screengrab of him cross-eyed, foaming at the mouth whilst spouting fascist drivel on Question Time! Much more appropriate!
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:::OK, thanks for letting me know. Thank you too for the courteous handling of the matter.
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::::Thanks , I will be patient as requested. I added a section that expands the sentence in question. I added several more citations and learned more about the problems that this structure has caused. I should have not used the term vandalism but rather conflict of interest. I hope there are more people that are not directly involved with the group can be a part of this discussion. Just the constant reverts by the other users were annoying because they can do it individually once or twice while I can only respond three times and so I did not want to get blocked for the 3RR.
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` *Support - ``Heart`` is a purely descriptive name, while ``Tombaugh Regio`` is at least provisionally official given that the name is likely to be formally submitted to the IAU. (⁄) `
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`*Support but change disambiguation - If I can interject, I'd like to add that I can see good arguments raised by both sides in this discussion from what I have read so far. The current title used has a natural disambiguation, which is always preferable in an article name and obeys WP:TITLE and WP:NATURAL. I don't wish to make a statement without any evidence to support it, but where I come from, everyone knows what the term 'Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant' means and what it represents so it's not unpopular. The acronym 'ISIL' is also accurate enough to represent the group. That being said, I have started to notice that both these terms are being displaced by 'ISIS', 'Islamic State' and 'IS' in publications that I read, and news that I tune in to. Many reliable sources are also starting to refer to it as 'Islamic State' with many many different variants. The other fact that also should be considered here is the actual wording in the name. 'Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant' makes the group sound as if it is geographically locked in these two regions, with no territory or ambition to spread outside of its primary spheres of influence. Similar to the Taliban-controlled Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. And, dare I say, it also makes them sound more legitimate as a group then just the ambiguous 'Islamic State' designation, due to the emphasis placed upon the areas of 'Iraq and the Levant'. Makes it sound more formal. But it is now not the case. As multiple editors have stated, it is not merely a parochial militant group with territory in the regions of Iraq, Syria and now even parts of Lebanon but a transnational entity bent on expansion. I cannot see how relegating it to two geographic positions is the mature thing to do in an Encyclopedia, whatever the intention. It is becuase of this that I do not believe the current name and its disambiguation is viable anymore, purely for this reason. Some editors had stated the potential and very real problem of justifying 'Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant' territory outside of Iraq and the Levant. It's not a recognized entity as far as I know. You cannot liken it to the Russian Federation having territory outside of Russia in Europe e.g Kaliningrad or the United States having territory outside of North America e.g Hawaii. What I am getting at is that this implies a level of legitimate ownership, and this group doesn't have it. Not in Libya or Yemen or Iraq or Syria or anywhere. The issue I have with ``Islamic State (IS)`` is the disambiguation which, whilst being a widely used acronym for the group, can not be measured accurately to satisfy WP:COMMONAME through Google searches alone. Even though many sources use 'IS' which has been stated, on its own as a disambiguation, it is simply too generic. A similar issue arises with the term ``Islamic State``. However, were you to isolate the period for a search, the results would become more accurate, and this has already been stated. If a more appropriate disambiguation were to be found that could in concise terms explain what the article is about, I would support it. I suggest something along the lines of Islamic State (organisation) or Islamic State (ISIS) or Islamic State (group) or Islamic State (militant group). I am under the impression that WP:OFFICIAL and WP:COMMONAME are the important policies here, as editor stated, and in my opinion the current title doesn't satisfy either, whilst a proposed title has the potential to satisfy both. The only reason why I choose to support this current proposal, is that progress towards a better article name will emerge allot quicker were it 'Islamic State (IS)' vs. a proposed alternative rather than the current title vs. a proposed alternative. `
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