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`I'm adding a merge request with the ``NES 2`` article. A ``New NES/AV Famicom`` page would be ideal, in my opinion. I would like to get rid of using the phrase ``NES 2`` - it's not an official name of the system, as is suggested.`
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== politics == hello everyone, just have some questions- since the article mentions religion and political systems, is there no need or requirement to flesh out that issues such as women's rights (I'm not a woman ), political freedom, repression, hostagetaking, support for terrorism, and other elements which give crucial perspective to the existing decription of the counrty? Should there be an analysis area, or some contextual couching of the existing narrative?
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` I don't see how your rewording changes the meaning of the statement, it just makes it wordier and vague. Mechanism and efficacy are both covered by the phrase ``homeopathic beliefs.`` `
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She's a published author. Are you?
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==Grow== You thrice deleted an article I was beginning to build about a published author, stating that I could add various info, such as biographical detail. It may some day occur to you that this is what I was in the process of doing, except that your vandalism destroyed the article within a few moments of creation. I am new to Wikipedia, so perhaps there is a complaint mechanism for constraining your behavior that does not involve me deleting you, or your creations.
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` ==Help== Help! A user deleted my in-progress article three times without warning, and then called me ``bubbie`` which is offensive and demeaning and treatened to 'block' me. What is that? How does arrogant, high-handedness, threats, and talking down to contributors help buold wikipedia? IS THERE A COMPLAINT MECHANISM?`
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` But please calm down. This kind of personalized investment in an arrogant tone is unbecoming: ``Hold it right there, bubbie. I am not doing the vandalism. I was trying to help you. You go ahead and write your article...but you do it by the rules and you do it without any further personal attacks. You may wish to consider writing it offline with at least three good sentences. BUT...if you come back with any more attacks, you'll be blocked. Like I said, please do the right thing. - ```
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== Pagan Christ == I'd like to propose a section on the criticism that Christianity is largely unoriginal, and is an amalgam of pagan sun-worship religions. For example, note the similarities with Mithraism.
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Haidee Maree Tiffen (b. 4 September, 1979) in Timaru and she is a cricketer, who has played in 73 women's one-day internationals and has also played in two women's Test matches, for New Zealand. Tiffen, Haidee Tiffen, Haidee Tiffen, Haidee
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` ::::, and I all came in as outsiders. And in every case ended up having the same arguments, because in the end the problem is not with the article. - ]/] `
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== Shoot me some email. == Yo. Thank ya. Mike[at]yahoo.com
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` ::A ``personal attack`` is generally something which involves a slur or a lie, not a pure confinement to an accurate description of willfully-indulged in spirit-of-Wiki contrary behavior. E.g., various people are labeled ``vandals`` all the time at Wiki if they're vandalizing, and it's not considered a ``personal attack``. Regards this particular case, if what's consciously being committed across the various Islam-relating entries does not qualify as whitewashing and propaganda, then nothing does. `
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===Substantiation?== I am incredulous as to the idea that 'E-gyptus' is derived from a series of vaguely similar sounding ancient Egyptian words. I have spent many years living and working in Egypt, and I have never heard this explanation of the derivation of Copt. Perhaps some more sources could be provided illustrating proof of this somewhat tenuous connection...?
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== Comment and suggestion == Well, the straw poll has conclusively proved two things to me: m:Polls are evil is re-confirmed, and the anons editing this page have no idea how to edit a wiki page. There are currently 2 support sections, 2 oppose sections, 1 empty comments section, and several links to shock images for no purpose that I can see. Suggest terminating this noble experiment in AGF.
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:Well...that was stupid...I told you to send it the wrong place! (But I've since email your provided addy from two different places, so we should be all set.)
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:I remember that being all over the news after the episode aired. I think if we can find a source we can rewrite it and include it again. Thanks for catching that!
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` ==Image Tagging Image:Cesamaia.jpg== {| align=``CENTER`` style=``background-color:#FFFFFF; border:8px solid #FF0000; padding:5px;`` |- | | This media may be deleted. |} Thanks for uploading Image:Cesamaia.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page. If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then you must also add one. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then you can use to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media qualifies as fair use, please read fair use, and then use a tag such as or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use. If you have uploaded other media, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the ```` link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting ``Image`` from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. `
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You just need to read this TALK page to see that many see the article as bias, so the NPOV TAG should stay. The article will be changed to make it neutral and maybe note negative view points in a sub section.
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` == Recent news overkill == Looks like this article is falling into the familiar trap of reporting every single transaction and news event and bit offseason activity of the past few months. E.g., the sentence: :The 2005 season will likely go down as the most controversial in the Orioles' history. Will it really? I don't think so. Yeah, 2005 sucked for the O's but the most controversial in team history?! This is only here because it's so fresh in the memory. If this is still here in five years, it won't make sense to anyone. Remember, this is the franchise that started a season at 0-21!!!! 2005 can't possibly be considered more controversial than that. Try to keep recent events in perspective and remember that this article isn't called 2005 Baltimore Orioles, it's just ``Baltimore Orioles``. Individual trades aren't mentioned from 1976 so why should they be given so much attention in 2005? Just one baseball history buff's opinion... — `
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` Made few more changes, `` `` to unrecognized territories:) and recaptured to western part of ``Krajina`` cause at the begining of the war most of it was controled by Croatian police forces. `
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: what i meant to say is that most internationally recognized publications refer to Balhae and Goguryeo as part of History of Korea, as contrary to Chinese claim that Balhae and Guguryeo people are part of Chinese ethnic groups. Sorry if you misunderstood me, I guess my statement was unclear. As usual, thank you for your great contributions to many articles on Wikipedia ). Have a nice day.
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To better meet the Manual of Style this should probably be changed to a single initial capital letter Big game hunter unless the video game is also meant (which would actually make for a more interesting article). The proliferation of video games about hunting is something that has long puzzled me... -
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:: It was in the history page when I made the revert on the user catan template. Editing people's userboxes in too extreme a manner is kinda taboo, but it was the fair use rule that I was riding you for. Wikipedia:Fair use
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==REversion== Reversion of this article by vandals so called administrators and users like Herostratus should not be allowed here!
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==Reply== Who can read and understand this vandal herostratus anyways?
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Revert wars I knew it was going to happen.... ...I have no objection to secondary and tertiary entries so long as I don't have to guard the thing 24/7 against vandalism aiming to nerf the entry down to flavorless, factless nothingness.
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Welcome! Hello, , and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the Wikipedia Boot Camp, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} on your user talk page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few good links for newcomers: *The five pillars of Wikipedia *How to edit a page *Help pages *Tutorial *How to write a great article *Manual of Style I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome!  ==Super Bowl== For your information, I reverted your recent edit to the Super Bowl article. Please read the context of that sentence more closely. Thank you.
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` According to your own block policy in order to block someone for ``personal attacks`` they must put the person being attacked in danger. There was never any threat nor danger; not to mention the fact that I was merely stating facts about idiots like you and VegaDick. You continue to prove why you so called ``editors`` and ``admins`` are for the huge majority, a complete farce! You are a hypocrite and cannot even follow your OWN blocking policy! PS: Suck a dick! Now go block me again loser! (citation: That is my opinion of you and made clear by your actions)`
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aka cock sucking lover of VegaDick
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citation: That is my opinion of you and made clear by your actions
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:IMO, they either have some substance (i.e., the stuff Yuber keeps wanting to chop), or they all become redirects to Spencer.
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Provided they have substance, they should be separate. (Although they are hosted by the same organization, and have button links to each other, their focuses are different, and there's little overlap in the carried material.)
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==Correct mistakes?== The repeated deletion without warning of my in-progress article stub was destructive to the Wikipedia community spirit, and I'm glad that the perpetrator decided on further reflection to insert a warning of possible deletion instead. The deleter made mistakes; corrected the mistakes; life goes on. However, the demeaning tone used, and threats to blocking the contributor, live on. When will that mistake be corrected? I suggest an apology.
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== I don't think this should be merged == Camp Parsons is an extremely popular Boy Scout camp nation-wide (they have troops from all over the country attend), so it definitely deserves its own page.
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if wasnt a joke, he stated it in the Rolling Stone on 10th May 2004, and it was also on blink182.com (although i cannot find it on there anymore, their site has always been poorly designed). I guess the only thing that could be edited out is the link to Democrat celebs but the wording should still remain as many other celebrities did say similar comments to that and i think it is important to relate Tom's political actions to a more wider scale.
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::CltFn created the stubs; we should wait for him to comment before any redirects.
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` :(Mirror of my response:) :1. It is ``backwards`` to approach any controversal subject by first listing the defense of the perpetrators can you imagine how jarring it would be for you to read an account of, say, the Antebellum South, which began by listing ``choice`` quotes regarding lenient recommendations plantation owners gave to their overseers concerning the treatment of their subjects? It's utterly bizarre. :2. It is grossly POV as well as inaccurate to portrary the perpetrators as ``giving rights`` and ``protection`` when they are doing precisely the contrary. The whole turgid mess is an appalling whitewash, despite a few throw-a-bone references in the links, and everyone involved in whatever horrific ``consensus`` (if any) Hell-spawned it ought to be very ashamed of themselves. `
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` :I conclude he's a vandal for what I consider very sound reasons leading to inevitable deductions....but let's not talk about him, and stick to the specifics of the issue at hand: :1. It is ``backwards`` to approach any controversal subject by first listing the defense of the perpetrators can you imagine how jarring it would be for you to read an account of, say, the Antebellum South, which began by listing ``choice`` quotes regarding lenient recommendations plantation owners gave to their overseers concerning the treatment of their subjects? It's utterly bizarre. :2. It is grossly POV as well as inaccurate to portrary the perpetrators as ``giving rights`` and ``protection`` when they are doing precisely the contrary. The whole turgid mess is an appalling whitewash, despite a few throw-a-bone references in the links, and everyone involved in whatever horrific ``consensus`` (if any) Hell-spawned it ought to be very ashamed of themselves. `
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Moved content The following content was moved from the article as it appears to have been cut and pasted from somewhere else. :Ask Nancy: Q/A with Nancy Lieberman :Q: Hi, Nancy. Why do you think the Great Adrienne Goodson of the Sting doesn't get a shot at the National Team? What gives? Yours Truly, -Ralph (Bayonne, N.J.) :A: Speaking from an alumni perspective (Go ODU!), Goodie is a warrior. She won't get a lot of attention, but she just goes about the work and grinds it out. That is why I was really happy that she made the All-Star team in 2002. It just validated how good of a player she really is. People always underestimate her, but she is so mentally tough. She will never get a lot of exposure, but she is vital to the success of the WNBA. Source: http://aol.wnba.com/features/asknancy_040721.html :JERSEY CITY, NJ - 05/06/2003…Adrienne is often compared to her cousin, Dennis “Lil Pie” Goodson. His alma mater, New Jersey City University (Jersey City State College) unveiled the newly created Dennis Goodson Memorial Basketball Award, at the Annual Athletic Awards Banquet in 2003. Dennis competed as a point guard with the school from 1983 to 1987 and was a starter on the school's first Final Four team in 1986. Sadly, he died on June 25, 2002 at the age of 36. :Named in honor of the star point guard, the award is bestowed to either a male or female basketball player at NJCU. The recipient will best exemplify the attributes for which Goodson was known: team loyalty, dedication to the sport of basketball, competitive spirit on the court, knowledge of the fundamentals of basketball, and demonstration of leadership, and sportsmanship. Source: NJCU website
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` ::::I have to disagree with this. Perhaps the reference in the ``Ties`` section should be moved to pro-condom, but simply deleting it seems like POV blanking. Also, ``have proven impenetrable`` is not weasel words, it's a quote from a source. - `
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REDIRECT Talk:Reduced instruction set computer
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` ==Coomplaint procedure?== No doubt there is a lot of link spam. But no doubt many contributors of good articles start small and then build the piece in layers. That's completely human and completely understandable. The better recourse would have been to insert that tag about possible deletion, rather than deleting within such a short period of time. I had just created the stub. I am new to Wiki and perceived that I was up against a vandal. Indeed I was. How much more disturbing to learn that the destroyer has some form of administrative rights. I'm new here, and it's not a paying job, clearly. I'm not sure I want to learn the ropes of Wikipedia politics and egos, as the obvious value of Wikipedia is compelling enough, and the ugliness of personalities warped by power within a volunteer effort is unhealthy to that effort. The impulse to characterize someone who stands up for their contribution as ``nasty`` or ``threatening`` ... the see-what-I-mean response to a contributor not aware of the emotional satisfaction some may draw from arbitrary deletions, from deliberately provoked confrontations to assure themselves of their own power, is sad. All my foregoing comments no doubt cements some of you more firmly in your smugness and self-satisfaction. Regardless of the barnacles that cling to its hull, I assert that the Wiki concept is, fortunately, apparently more powerful than the base human dynamics it nurtures but does not ultimately tolerate. i am asked to let it drop. I don't claim to be a Wiki expert, but I bet there is a complaint procedure. Anyone care to point me in the right direction? The article stub was summarily deleted three times, but after that, the vandal chose to insert an alert of possible deletion instead. This indicates to me that the proper procedure was not followed the first three times. What's the complaint procedure? My further complaint will be regarding the dynamic of portraying someone who stands up for themselves in a reasoned and civil way as having an attitude problem. That's probably the most corrosive thing to a volunteer effort.`
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` ==New Additions and Changes== After a long time away from this article waiting for the peer review to be finalized, I've returned to work on this article. Just wanted to list some of the additions and changes. #The biggest one (IMHO) is the change citations from parenthetical to footnote/bibliography style. Also, the footnotes and bibliography are in a reduced font, done in a style that can be seen in Hugo Chavez. Given that the Chavez article won featured article status, I'm going to take the ``if you can't beat'em, join'em`` approach. #I got ahold of a decent biography of Suharto that really illuminates Suharto's pre-presidential years. It's R.E. Elson's Suharto: A Political Biography. I plan on making some further additions using this book as a reference. #In tandem with the Elson book, I managed to find some halfway decent pictures of him that I believe should be public domain, if not fair use. So now we have a lead photo again! They're from the Department of Information and State Secretariat of Indonesia. If anyone has a halfway decent knowledge of Indonesian intellectual property law (besides the lack of any enforcement), it'd be very appreciated. For the future, I am looking to fatten up the portion on Suharto's military career, but eventually it will be exported to its own article (e.g. Military career of Suharto), much in the same way the Civil War and New Order sections got fattened up, exported, then trimmed. After that is done, I hope to do another round of peer review, and then based on that nominating this to Wikipedia:Featured article candidates `
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::I scanned these photos from the Elson book on a flatbed scanner. Unfortunately, that means the halftone pattern from the photo being printed onto paper. The other two photos I could use a blur effect and fiddle around with contrast to reduce that problem and get some progress out of, but doing the same thing to the top photo ended up making it look very out-of-focus.
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` ==War of 1812 category discussion== You said: ``Delete At least get rid of the word ``Theaters`` which is unacceptable bias in a category about a war between Britain and the United States. CalJW `` Can you expand on why the word ``theaters`` is bias in this context? I'm not trying to be argumentitive or anything, I'm just not too sure what you refering to... thanks! `
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` SORRY PUCK BUT NO ONE EVER SAID DICK WAS NUMBER ONE!! But he is clearly listed as being ``second only to Batman`` and a ``master detective and martial artist`` and been trained in all the mentioned combat discplines. No need to mention in skills/abilities about the battles he's lost and won because thats not what an encylopia is supposed to do. Also, what your problem is your going by low end showings and not HIGH end showings where he's proven more than a match for a meta like Slade and pinned Shiva down in one of his earliest appearences. `
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== 18ft skiff == My interest was driven only by the fact that the page belonged to no category. I was merely plowing through Special:Uncategorizedpages. My watchlist has about 10 articles in it. I am going to leave that page to someone who cares more about Category:Boat types and has the expertise to make all those pages more uniform.
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I could not find any mention of The Saga of Happiness Stan on side 2 of Ogden's Nut Gone Flake by The Small Faces. It tells the story of Happiness Stan's quest for the other half of the moon, and it seems pretty rock-operary to me.
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== Terri's weight: max of 200 vs. 250 == In http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7306483/site/newsweek , Arian Campo-Flores writes: :By 1981, in her senior year at an all-girls Roman Catholic high school, she had reached as much as 250 pounds—at which point she went on a NutriSystem diet and quickly lost about 100 pounds. Do you think that Arian was exaggerting or being careless? Is citing a maximum as a maximum not fair?
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== Good. Be Bold! == Satusoro, I hope you won't mind me saying this but I don't see why you have to leave a rude message on my TalkPage in order to do any number of edits you feel need to be made. Everyone on Wikipedia is free to do that editing, with the caveat that their work can be edited without mercy. If you wish to be bold, fine. You don't need my blessing. Just don't pontificate and do nothing.
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Wait a Hot Second Please allow me to talk to Plastic's owner Carl Steadman over IRC before the logo is deleted again.
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== == Go fuck yourself
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` ::Also, about it being my turn to argue back and forth and back and forth and back and forth and back and forth and back and forth with you: You HAVE NOT presented one counter argument against the article revision of yours needing a cleanup/POV check. ε* `
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== tinyurl == I added some hyphens the the tinyurl URL. You must have a firewall issue on your side.
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If something is Greek (or Latin), I usually know it. ) I don't know if a meritocracy, while a good ideal, is realizable in any setting: nepotism and political favoritism are too prevalent in many businesses and in the appointee levels of government. :I most certainly agre with you about the blind eye turned by many on the starving people of the world. We have the resources to feed them, and we should make sure it happens. However, in many cases the hold of religions that ban contraception needs to be loosened the earth has finite resources, and more will not fall to earth like manna from the gods.
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::Ooooh, i dunno. He treats those two ladies awfully, slapping them, shoved one in a cupboard, insults them. he's not too bad to major but still condecending.
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`== Real name ? == Is it 100% accurate that ``Shuji`` is his birth name ? I've read a Japanese report that states his real name as ``Osamu Kondo``. `
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Oh I couldn't agree more. Serbia would never manipulate a census, but Serbia and Montenegro would, and does at that too. All fucking countries manipulate the census, democratic or not. Greece has as many Greek Orthodox followers as it has ethnic Greeks. So how about the Greeks who converted to Islam under the Ottomans? All other nationalities did (given that Bosniaks and Pomaks are Slavic converts), not to mention many Albanians or all their ethnic varieties too: No, any Muslim is a TURK in Greece, even if he speaks Greek as a first language. Get this, I KNOW Greek Sunni Muslims. And how about my stupid country? Croatia? To prove that I am not some nationalist Pro-Croat Anti-Serb - Zagreb sees no Slavic Catholics as Serb, even though in and around Dubrovnik (where I spent most of my young life) there is a traditional group of Serbs who are Catholic... again, I know some of these people by name. Not according to Zagreb though... Italy plays down the number of Slovenes in her, Finland claims that there are fewer Swedes there than Sweden says... France plays down ALL Alsatians to declare themselves German ... Poland exaggerates the number of people who call themselves Pol+something in Belarus and the Ukraine. That's the way of the world, and bang in the middle of all the injustice is a country called Serbia & Montenegro, so PURE since the overthrow if Miloseveic that they could never tell lies in their censa! Perhaps the world should now look to Belgrade for a moral lead! 6 February 2006
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Fair enough. I will try to make a new version of the article that addresses your concerns. :
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:: Burden of dreams history and identity in post-Soviet Ukraine / Catherine Wanner. Have a look at section on education reform. As for Ukraine as a colony, you need to talk with a post-colonial student. Imperial Russia was a colonizer and fought in colonial wars (ie Crimean and Russo-Japanese war) and used similar economic/cultural policies.
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` ==Isn't this statement loaded?== ``The ``Fire Island Four,`` a group whom MacDonald had previously come in contact with in an innocent way long before the murders, were most likely the persons MacDonald drew upon when making up his descriptions of the so-called ``intruders.```` - CS`
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== Alois sex life and parentage == Given his subsequent behaviour, it seems unlikely that Alois reached his mid-twenties before discovering sex. Therefore it seems likely that Adolf may have had other half-brothers and sisters apart from Thekla/Thelka's child. Is there any indication that anyone came forward claiming to be a half-sibling during Adolf's rise to power? If so, what became of them? Also, how strictly was the ban on Jews enforced prior to 1860? I expect there were illegal immigrants them as there are today. Could a wealthy tobacco merchant (Frankenburger) have bribed officials to ignore his presence? TCH. Hastings. UK.
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Catherine II had three children, if I recall correctly. Paul Petrovich (father ?), who became Paul III; Anna Petrovna (died in infancy); and Alexis Bobrinski. I think rumor went that all three were fathered by lovers.
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` Welcome! Hello, , and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers: *The five pillars of Wikipedia *How to edit a page *Help pages *Tutorial *How to write a great article *Manual of Style I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  e () `
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In response to your latest comment on my Talk Page: however enthusiastic I was in choosing/defending the choice of Indonesian Civil War does not make you any less able to propose a change. Nevertheless, I knew that the choice was going to raise some hackles from any number of sides - so there are a good number of redirects to Indonesian Civil War, including G30S and G30S PKI (as far as I know, the most commonly used name for the time period/conflict). If there are other suggestions, then I'd like to hear them. But I do find it a personal annoyance to be criticized for trying to do something, without any particular guidance as to what the alternatives may be.
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` ==Regarding Yours and SatuSoro's Criticisms== Just wanted to speak with you on the whole Indonesian Civil War controversy. I'd just like to say: I'd be fine with a change in title. My chief concern is that the title be accurate and keeps to NPOV but does not gloss over the facts in the process. So long as a new title does not violate that, I'm not going to dig in my heels. I bring this up because SatuSoro has accused me of being too possessive of this article and Suharto. I just wanted to clarify that while I state my opinions in forceful way and report frequently on what I do, I don't do that to ``take possession`` of an article over other editors; I do it to stay accountable and above-board. `
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`::Salon is not a source without its POV biases, and it certainly had a number of ideological axes to grind (including, most pertinently, a willingness to tar and feather any and all Arab and Islamic peoples as barbarians, and a totally uncritical way of looking at the Israel-Palestine conflict). ::Accepting their claims as the total truth is certainly problematic; it is made even more so when there isn't a way to actually check the veracity of the claim. Not being able to read the article, because of their damned clickthrough ads, I would personally appreciate if someone could post the section of the article in question. For the time being, ``Salon claims. . .`` is certainly the NPOV way to go. `
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> ...and the band was one of the most famous of the 1980s. This may be true, but my own experience I never heard of them. U2 seemed pretty famous, and the Rolling Stones. Perhaps it is meant that they were famous in Japan?
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== While things are protected... == I found it refreshing to edit on the libertarian wiki. I transplanted the last good version of the anarchism article there. You know, with the individualist/collectivist structure that we worked on after the last unprotect. I merged your Individual anarchism and American individual anarchism articles - that was obviously an edit war fork. Anyway, check these out: Anarchism Individualist anarchism
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== fuck you == you're an idiot
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Archive 1]]: 2004 - November
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:::The problem is that the ukrainian version of homepage differs a lot from it's english variant. In ukrainian there can be found a list of 41 'friendly schools' (much more than we can see here know). And I think 41 is far too much for the article... On the other hand, friendly universities cross-links would be very useful. Suggestions?
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Now, yes none of that conjecture can be used in the article. But it does illustrate why comments from writers during times that creative projects are still being produced are not necessarilly credible. This is simply because they want to protect their intellectual property, avoid spoiling the suspense of their upcoming plot arcs, and because of various political concerns within the market that could jeopradize a creater's job security were that creator to open his mouth. I have read in magazines, like Wizard, over the years where a creator specifically said that something would not happen in a book and then a few months later it did happen in the book and it was the decision of that creator. Various plot points in Spider-Man and the X-Men come to mind.
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, 6 February 2006 (UTC) ::LOL - not sure if that is a compliment or a slam - but see my comments regarding anonymous editing 13:57
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`: Hmm? No one said she wasn't alive. Incidentally, while Harper's two brothers may be accountants, Harper is not: both his undergraduate and masters degrees are in economics. (I'm not sure whether that makes him an ``economist``; like ``physicist`` and ``mathematician`` that title seems to be reserved for those with doctorates in the subject). `
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::::::: Yes I have reported, (as a Freemason or not), that UGLE seems to take that position, in the public domain.
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:: No I copied it verbatum from the History of this article and added citations to back it up, ie I've acted as an Editor to improve Wiki information.
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` :::::::: NOTE If you read above, and follow the links, any reader can see that I cited correctly the links I added on this subject. Vidkun has added anotations to make them read as the oposite, but these links show the ``official`` line taken by UGLE. I will not be trapped by any User into so-called 3RR, so he can peddle his POV. Strangly, ALL other ``MASONS`` are quiet, leaving ‘‘me’’ to defend that factual truth on my own. ``Thanks`` Brethren. Sitting any blocking out if given... `
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` # Keep the sites, at the bottom. HI VAS FREMT! e `
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` No squabble, the article is fine, take off your ``beer googles``' `
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CONSUMER WATCH! Never do business with this bank. It's not the real Wachovia bank anymore. First Union, which has always been a bad bank, bought out Wachovia so that it could change its name. First Union had a terrible reputation for incompetence and fraud, whereas Wachovia had a spotless reputation. Think about it. First Union was easily 100 times bigger than Wachovia. Why would such a company abandon its brand for a virtually unknown brand name unless it was caught hurting its customers so often that its reputation was dismal? It is just like ValueJet renaming itself after that company killed a plane load of people because they wanted to make an extra buck transporting volatile materials. I personally lost money due to Wachovia letting my personal information be stolen. There are tens of thousands of Wachovia bank account holders who had their personal information, including social security numbers and bank account numbers, stolen. Do not trust this bank. PRONUNCIATION
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` ::::::: Wibble wibble. UGLE for ever. POV. If Freemasonry was a religion I would be on CNN by now, Jumping up and down, in my apron, with an AK47, etc. But it is not... so I am not. Author's status is not verifiable as Masonic, because they do not need to prove that they are 1001st degree Pangendrems, just like I did not. They only add ``ranks`` to impress people. No Mason needs to use any rank above Bro. Even then they are not official unless they can prove that they are official. I explained how the English Lodge sites are vetted by UGLE, hence the ``official`` tag. If private authors want to stitch gold brade on their nightware, and parade about, who am I to stop them? I do not run round the streets in an apron, and I wrote why, at the start of this. `
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` == Bias == Hmn, funny how racism isn't mentioned at all in the article. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that it isn't a ``white`` organization. `
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` PS As I can still ``edit`` up to the time I sign this, the anti-Masonic ``gods`` 'n' ``socks`` of Wiki must think that the ant-masonic job is being done for them, and are waiting for the UGLE PoV loyalist Mason to go off to my Lodge. That's what I doing now QED... `
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` == Bias == Why does the ``Criticism`` segment fail to mention the part about the NAACP being racist? Not only does the article fail at that point, but it fails by introducing a cliche segment bashing Bush. I can't blame someone for not wanting to speak at an obviously racist venue. `
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` How is correcting a word ``vandalism``?`
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::: just because freaky animal lib-ers are over-represented on that page does not make them right.
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== Block == I have blocked you for 24 hours to give you a chance to cool off. Please use it. You aren't helping your position with your vandalism, and you certainly aren't helping the encyclopædia.) Yours,
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== Thanks for stepping in on the vandalism on Britches (monkey)== that is all.
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` wow you are dumb. and that is NOT an attack but a statement, since anyone who belives that concensus would change reality IS dumb. Just because you stack the odds in your favor on the articles in question does not mean that britches was ALF's. Since Britch's belonged to the lab, and ALF ``took`` him, Britches was ``stolen``. Europe is a community, and that community agreed that the earth was flat... does that mean that America is not really here, since columbus sailed off the edge of the planet? you silly nuts!`
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I was under the impression that if the user refused to discuss the issue, or refused to listen to valid sources, and forced their opinion that is is vandalism. Localzuk refuses to admit the dictionary as a credible source, ergo i thought it was vandalism.
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If a user refuses to listen to reason, refuses to listen to valid sources and insists on placing bias in an article, it IS vandalism. Localzuk is a vandal, plain and simple.
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Information about Retro Gecko I beg your pardon. Countless other bands write about what they are doing and who they are on Wikipedia, why then did you feel the need to delete my first entry about my band. I'm sorry, but you should have more patience. When you see an article that is completely new, you should allow that author more time to edit and complete their entry before deleting it. Just because its a garage band doesn't give you permission go deleting it, perhaps you might wait one or two days for me to complete what was I writing. Wikipedia may have promoted you to some position of administration, but it doesn't mean you have to lose all patience. I'm a human being and a broadcaster and an editor of many web sites and I don't get this sort of trouble from other people. I start new projects and ideas all day and post updates to each as they happen. You can't expect an article not to evolve over time. If this is the sort of treatment that I can expect from Wikipedia after just creating my first account, then why would anyone want to use such a service?
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== Information about my band. == If you would allow me to finish was I was writing, there will be more detail on Retro Gecko than just two lines. Some of us need a break from the computer now and then. Perhaps you should too.
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:::::Sorry, it was Polly who slapped the old woman coz she kept screaming, but Basil locked her in the cupboard. He was rude to the major, but not really to his face.
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== LO? LO? LO? == Can I please get down and leave the room, to pick my nose?
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==Reply to Chopin fan== The Chopin fan is correct, again, so many sites on wiki have two birthdays in one parenthesis, especially if there is a doubt, it goes to show how you are all so called objective people contradicting yourselfs and goes to show you dont know anything about truth.
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Heck I'd volunteer for a re-write but then I get charged with criminal mischief and/or I'd be accused of promoting myself for selfless gain - no really it would take a long time )
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:Agreed. I've begun fixing the ridiculous pov. keep up the goood work.
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==Michael Schiavo== He is breaking WP:3RR and you accuse me of vandalism? Go suck a fuck!
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