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I would have gotten away with it if it hadn't been for those meddling kids.
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I agree and disagree. We have more than 2 parties in Australia, the weaker ones just jostle for position with the big ones for preferential deals. Still, your model is fucked up.
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The system is in competition, the voting public are not. Or at least shouldn't be. We're going to have differing ideals, but the goal should be the best life possible for as many people as possible. Competing against one another isn't conducive to that.
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Reminds me of a comment I posted somewhere else on reddit. "The American people seem to forget, they have power too. Look at the 60s. Look how we became our own country! American citizens will not let this country go to shit after how far we have come. The president is one person, the government is a group of people, but we are a NATION. We are supposed to stand proud and united."
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I fucking HATE it when people say they want to move. Oh my, a little bit of adversity turns you of from trying to look to the future and impact change in the best country on earth. I understand minority concerns right now but that means people should fight in what they believe. And also realize that no one is going to be killing any minorities or anything like that. Shit, I'm 24 and the majority of my friend's parents immigrated here. It would be a disgrace to leave because someone got elected whose beliefs don't match theirs
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I see nothing in common with Trump supporters. : will resist their kind as long as I have the power to.
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Precisely! But making the world better is not about defeating "them." If anything, the key to making the world a better place is understanding "them." I begrudgingly voted for Trump myself, and I respect anyone who voted for Hillary. I can completely understand why you would.
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No, the Supreme Court was majority conservative.
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I was 13 in 2008 when Obama became president. I was much more interested in Call of Duty and Super Smash Bros than I was in politics.... So...
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Like recently? Dude how old are you
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> I was talking with a 4 year old who was picking up on the mood of all the adults around him (Democrats.) This was a week ago but he said something about fighting to stop Trump. My daughter, also 4 years old, is very pro Donald Trump because it: "Sounds like McDonalds". I didn't really have a comeback to that argument, it's pretty sound.
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The USA has the longest history of peaceful transfers of power in the world.
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A thousand times this. I can't believe how many times I've read about children being apologized to today. It's as if these people are apologizing for our system of government, totally ignorant of how good we have it relatively speaking. Sure there are nicer places to live, but not many and there are tradeoffs, otherwise you would have left during the Bush years.
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How that's at all the same to a young child hearing a man will grab women by the pussy is completely beyond me...
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Yes, however, I'm clearly talking about my concerns of raising a young girl in a country where its leader said he has no issue grabbing any woman by the privates.
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And that's relevant to my daughter who is worried that girls aren't as good as boys how? Like fuck did y'all forget what sub you're in
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I feel so bad for his daughter. This is petty disgusting.
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You don't have to be brainwashed to dislike Trump. We teach kids that bullying is wrong from a young age, they can see his rhetoric for what it is.
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She's aware of it because the quote of him saying he can't answer if he respects women or not was played on a commercial on television. She says "did he really say those things?" What can I say? No?
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I'm gonna disagree with your comment that this is what America wanted. Hillary won the popular vote. I agree with everything else man.
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Hahah at 6, yes of course.
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Re-eleceted autocorrect
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As fathers we should all think about the world we want to leave to our children... to some of us this is a really important thing. So yes, the world isn't going to fall apart tomorrow, but give me and my family a moment to be sad about the decision that was made and the way that may form our great country's future. Give us the chance to reflect on the ways we want to model our behavior to win the trust and responsibilities of leadership.
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It's just parents fearmongering to their children because their candidate didn't win. You're gonna see a lot of this for the next few months.
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There are despicable Republicans that hold some offices, yes. There are despicable Republicans that will take their charge in January. For some of us, it's most certainly not framed as "The" despicable republicans. "Other people like the guy, so you should be OK with someone who embraces and promotes sexual assault." is not a statement I will ever be OK making.
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It is when you tell her that she 'won' or 'lost' perpetuating the sports team mentality and not actual discussion with the other side.
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I agree - understanding someone with a different opinion is best done through open discourse and patience. It is hard. And I would never ask anyone to look up to Trump. I would agree that he, personally makes sexist comments and remarks. But if he ever creates a sexist policy I will be incredibly upset. That said, I am pretty critical of the "wage gap," so I don't disagree with Trump on that issue. As a reference, both my fiancé and mother agree that the wage gap is a result of woman choosing less well-paying jobs due to a lack of a cultural push for women in STEM fields. Now, I don't know if you find this discourse interesting or helpful, but I hope it helps you understand why someone like me would vote for Trump. As for third party candidates: I considered voting for Johnson to give a third party a fighting chance, but I live in Florida and felt the need to begrudgingly support Trump.
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Some things are worth fearing, jedi master. It's easy and natural to criticize people teaching kids things that we personally disagree with, but if the people teaching those things genuinely believe them to be true and moral, it's hard to fault them in my mind. Attack the beliefs themselves, not pedagogy as a practice. As long as there is freedom and choice provided to the child in addition to the proper guidance, you are doing a good job.
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> I talked with a lot of normal Democrats who were freaked out by Bernie's progressive positions and that term "Socialist." There was your problem. You know who I spoke to when Bernie was n the primary (And not just phone banking?) Unregistered independents, lifelong Republicans, military members, the working class... They loved him. They completely adored him. >Then there's the reality that Bernie is not strong on military or foreign affairs. Yes, he was. My circle of friends and family is almost all active-duty and veterans. They loved Bernie's message of non-interventionism. During the primaries, active duty and veterans contributed more to Sanders' campaign than anyone else's.
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A-fucking-men. If your kid cries because someone other than your preferred candidate was elected through a well-established democratic process, you are a failure as a parent.
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Are they wrong? I mean I identify with republican more than democrat (but don't call myself either), and him 'touching girls privates' aka grab them by the p***y is what completely turned me away from him. That child is more than right to say that, bc it's actually true.
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I'm not saying you don't deserve to be here. If you don't like it, you can go somewhere else. That's all I meant to say.
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Whenever a different party takes over, there are chuckleheads from the losing side claiming they are now ashamed to be American.
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That must have been really hard for you. I'm sorry someone put you through something so terrible.
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Your comment made my laugh. Take my upboat.
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Best reply in this whole thread
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And yet she was the better choice in the general by an unbelievably uuuuge margin. Let THAT sink in. This guy turns everything he touches into tinsel plated shit. He lost money running casinos. Now a guy so vindictive and egocentric he couldnt step back from a twitter fight with a gold star family saying monstrous, unamerican shit in the process, even when it hurt his prospects, this guy will now have the reins at FBI and IRS.
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Don't bother. They're brain washed.. they're the 3 out of 10 that think our country was going in the right direction.
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Nah it's our turn to be smug and condescending.
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That seems to only apply to some things. Rarely seems to happen anymore in sports or politics unfortunately.
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But he promised he wouldn't at the very beginning. If he had gone back on his word like that, even though the DNC was obviously biased, it would have turned off a lot of his supporters. Besides which the traditional Democratic base would not have rallied under him if HRC was running and Trump would have won by even bigger margins. Then the Dems would have just blamed Sanders for the loss and ignored the glaring problems in their methods that actually cost then the election.
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Why would you so harshly dictate what your kids will do? If they want to serve their country, then who are you to step in and stop them for something they may regret not doing as they get older? Rather than stand in their way for your own political beliefs, teach your kids to look at things with an open mind and form their own opinions. Blocking them from doing something isn't proving anything but your own selfish closed mind.
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That's an incredibly disrespectful thing to say that I have a hatred for cops. Assuming you went through my post history? Yeah god forbid I take strong stances on individual situations and not make blanket statements or rationalizations.
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Yeah so imagine America with no military. Nothing to stop any attack from one of the many countries that loathe us. Then what? You're enslaved or killed. Great logic there. Sure today's military might not fight for your freedom as you ignorant minded people like to toss around but they do preserve your way of life. Without them you would falter under someone else's rule.
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I didn't ask for your respects and I don't want them. Under President Trump I fully believe we will stop being the police of the world.
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I used to live in Mexico, my dad has a house in San Antonio del Mar, so I was living there while going to school at San Diego Mesa College. I have a sentri pass so crossing the border was easy. Yes, I'm joining the Navy, should be leaving for basic end of December beginning of January. Just because something is unorthodox doesn't mean it's not true. Also I'm here because I saw it on r/all. Call me a liar if you want, I don't really give a shit. At least make proper call outs.
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Why the hell did you go so far back in my comment history? That's really weird... Anyway, how? What the person I replied to doesn't have a fundamental understanding of is that myself and many others join the military not out of fetishised patriotism (although some do), but out of a sense of duty to the American people. What happens if our people come under attack? We protect them, whether through combat or support/tech roles, because they are why we join. That and the preservation of our rights. We take an oath to the Constitution, not the government.
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This dude might as well use the username 'brainwashed_cuck'. Same difference
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What's weird that I told my child I love him and that I'm basically reminding myself that we have our family and politics will never change that? However, the president could have a great impact on his future whether or not he knows it. Only time will tell if it's for the better or worse. If that's weird then I guess I'm weird.
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Wtf, this comments from about 7 months ago how did you get here? You played sports in college and never heard guys talk about pussy? that doesn't add up.
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I genuinely hope you're right. My read on Donald Trump is that he is, and has been, a con man. I don't trust him to do anything he says, good or bad. I'd love to be wrong though.
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"You in the hedge! We have you surrounded! Come out with your hands up!" "D'oh!"
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Sounds like something Hillary would say.
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That jostling means they have to work together (or try to, anyway). Bipartisanship in the US is far between these days.
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Outside all the anger and hatred, I can understand their views a bit. I don't agree with them, but I understand them. It's hard to move forward when the past was so nice(it wasn't, but nostalgia and all). But man, are they going to be pissed when factories return only to eventually be 100% automated.
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:[ That makes me sad as a Trump supporter, but I completely support your right to be angry. Either way, be the best American you can be!
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What if my values are completely at odds with the system that creates a president Trump? Why should I not want to use civic engagement and defeat people that are trying to make it so? Why should I not teach my hypothetical kid to have the same values?
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The court was pretty down the middle. Kennedy would go either way and Roberts has some fairly liberal leanings depending on the issue.
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I think that's a key problem. No one has a long enough memory. People thought the world ended when Bush got his second term. It was the same scenes of women crying in the news. Did the world end? No. Was he retarded? Absolutely. It's done now, unite like you did with Obama in 08, who was also a highly divisive president, and make the best of it. The endless streams of PTSD and triggering going on in social media is a fucking outrage. Some people have real problems.
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When Bill Clinton was elected
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The best reason to vote for him! ;)
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I keep hearing this. What happened in England since 1797 that I am apparently forgetting? What non-peaceful transfer of power occurred there? As I'm tying this, I'm realizing a quick trip to Wikipedia and I might answer my own question.
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That's what you get when your history is so short though
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I mean, we have a president-elect who is endorsed by the KKK and has a record of incredible misogyny. I have female students who have actually had their genitals grabbed on the subway by older men, some when they were twelve, who heard a presidential candidate bragging about nonconsensually doing that same thing. I have students who got beaten by their fathers for being gay, and now the VP-elect touts conversion therapy. I can't remain 100% neutral on this. I can encourage a wider dialogue, I can qualify, I can ask questions, I can clarify that our idea of good policy and values isn't everyone's and to make sure that the dialogue allows for disagreement. All the same, most of my students are women of color and gay kids (yay theater). For some issues the only moral option is to say "this is wrong, and I'm sorry."
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You're right, it's not. I can't defend what Trump said. I won't even try to. I did not vote for the man. But those kids instead would have seen their brothers and sisters die in global conflicts, their parents being out of work would have left no food on their tables and their water poisoned from HRC's energy policy. The lower and working class are people too. Yelling about how they're racist or sexist will not have changed the reality of their lives if HRC was elected president.
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Again one comment made in private made public. Scour the Wikileaks emails and you'll find negative things on the other side that weren't as publicized that you won't want your kids to hear. Quit sticking your fingers in your ears when it's convenient.
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It sounds like you're turning your problems into your daughter's problems. Maybe you could try not telling her every tabloid headline about Trump.
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Just show her a Miley Cyrus concert
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> We teach kids that bullying is wrong from a young age if only they bothered to adhere to such teaching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMux_UHmpvc
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You're absolutely right. You don't have to be brainwashed. But at the same time, a lot of parents do push their political beliefs on their kids that shouldn't worry about politics. Notice that my post was a question.
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“If I told the real stories of my experiences with women, often seemingly very happily married and important women, this book would be a guaranteed best-seller” “Blood coming out of her wherever” "A woman who is very flat-chested is very hard to be a 10." “Can you imagine that, the face of our next president? I mean, she’s a woman, and I’m not supposed to say bad things, but really, folks, come on. Are we serious?” Now downvote me for actual quotes not taken out of context in anyway. Jesus people. It's fine if that's what you wanted. It's a free country and free election. But own up to the fact that he's scummy as can be.
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Lol that's right. Make sure your kid learns everything about Hillary's opposition through a political attack ad
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I agree with you, but the alternative option is no ray of sunlight. She is a lying, manipulative, terrible person and a horrendous politician. I think its safer to say no matter who was elected, our country is in for a rough and interesting ride for the next 4 years. Many Americans have lost complete faith in our system and Hillary represented the same broken system. Trump has 4 years to prove that he can turn our nation's perspective of politicians around and its going to really force the democrats to stop playing so dirty and come up with a reasonable person to vote for the next time. I think this over-emotional reaction to what our nation decided is typical of our millennial generation. The sky isn't falling and all hope is not lost, but lets cry and whine like it is. Our day to day lives will not change anytime soon and will not in the long term unless we truly make some changes in our government. Getting rid of our old establishment, setting term limits for our congress, and caring about the future of this country again is the way to move forward. I doubt Trump will do much to change that, but Hillary would never have either. The best we can do is teach our children what is right and wrong and hope one day maybe they will take it upon themselves to change our nation for the better.
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you would have to explain this if either of them won though
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Grab them by the p***y! They won't say no. "Fear-mongering". Right. My future kids deserve better.
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The point is, don't tell your kids what to believe. That's how we get stuck in traditionalist thinking. Children should have a neutral political environment. This is why children fight over politics at school. Trump's obviously a shitty guy. You don't have to be enthusiastic about him. But you know for a fact that there are kids at your child's school who's parents are raising them to support trump and there will inevitably be conflict.
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I highly doubt that many lifelong Republicans really supported a self proclaimed Socialist full-heartedly. I could see independents, but socialist ideals and republican/conservative ideals are very, very far apart on the spectrum of politics. Edit: Maybe in your direct circle of friends this could happen, and did happen. I don't know, I'm not you. However, I am relating your example to the rest of the country in terms of voting and parties.
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Sweet username brah! Couldn't fit 'cuck' in there?
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Not a democrat, but Obama didn't boast about grabbing p***y. That's why it is most sad to me. This is shameful.
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You laughing of my outrage at words? The same kind of outrage the left has taken against Trump for just saying things? You fell in the trap, I know you won't see your hypocrisy but I hope you do.
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Hillary couldn't even beat Donald Trump. If you guys had brought out a true AAA quality candidate to put against us Trump either would have lost - or we wouldn't have nominated him in the first place. Trump was absolutely beatable. Trouble is, Hillary was such a mess that she couldn't even beat HIM. The sooner you guys understand this, the better your chances will be in 4 years.
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The rhetoric is real with this one.
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It's amazing to watch the hypocrisy. They call Trump a racist for being against illegal immigration, but if you're a black Trump supporter you're an uncle Tom. They call Trump a homophobe, but he's a stronger supporter of LGBT rights than Hillary. They call him a rapist for making sexual comments about a woman he was *in a relationship with*, but they ignore Hillary's covering up of her husband *actually raping women*, and her boasting that she got a guilty child rapist set free.
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Putting aside foreign policy (which is a complicated and messy matter), in what way do you think America has been heading in the wrong direction over the last 8 years?
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You won, you don't need to be.
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> Blocking them from doing something isn't proving anything but your own selfish closed mind. And if anything will push them to do exactly what you are trying to prevent. Better to educate and teach them the critical thinking skills to let them come to their own conclusion.
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It seems that when comparing the two candidates, Trump is the candidate who spoke the most against going to war. Comparatively, Hillary stated that she would do certain things, and many of these things could cause a war in the backlash. Edit: Missed some words.
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Did you? And I didn't say we didn't talk about pussy. I'm saying we didn't talk about *grabbing pussy bc the girls won't say no* Very stark difference.
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Ideally yes, in reality we have parties that are desperate for co-operation and so will push resources to things that only matter for that one member's electorate to get them onside. Politics is fucked here too, but this has been pretty brutal
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You have children? You want them to see a future? Donald trump doesn't believe we affect the environment and thus their future. I want to be a father and want to give my (and your) children the best opportunities. Donald Trump doesn't care about our kids.
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Frankly, it is a psychological issue as much as it is an idealistic one. In this case, it has to do with framing. I agree that you should do everything you suggested. However, it is all about using the most effective methods to do so. Rioting in the streets is not effective at making people sympathetic to your cause. Similarly, any demographic will not like if you express distaste for them. This is why is it important to avoid the us vs them mindset. All it does is promote stagnation, because neither side is willing to understand what the other side wants to be able to compromise. Additionally, the us vs them mindset makes it easy to manipulate people as people will change stances and act drastically to defeat "them" - see the riots going on tonight. Finally, the us vs them mindset does not inherently offer solutions. That particular mindset is problem-oriented. It pinpoints the "source" of the problem (them), but does not offer solutions to the problem beyond defeating "them." Compare this to someone like Sanders, who adopts a solution mindset: Sanders didnt scream about problems, he proclaimed solutions. If you still don't believe the us vs them mindset is both commonplace and harmful, I would like you to go on Facebook and find people complaining about this election or celebrating about it. By and large, they will follow a similar format: WE won! Despite all THEIR efforts, THEY could not stop US. Ugh, I can't believe THEM. It's THEIR fault WE lost. THEY are such INSULTS And the cruelest irony in all of this? I found Trump's victory speech fairly impressive because Trump stopped these us vs them attacks and said the following: "To those of you who opposed me, of which there are many, I would like to reach out to you and ask for your guidance and support so we can unify our great nation."
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If your values are so 'completely at odds' what motivation do the people you wish to 'defeat' have to compromise? How is your staunchness not just driving your opposition even further from something that is acceptable to you?
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> No. Was he retarded? Absolutely. We got ourselves into unnecessary wars that killed 600,000 people. And we deregulated the banks. And filled the DoJ with god-squadders. ..the list kinda goes on. Obviously the World didn't end, but some pretty hefty damage was done.
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If your parents thought moving to Canada was gonna be a good idea after Bill got elected you were gonna have a bad time.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_date_of_uninterrupted_peaceful_transfer_of_power
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