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You teach theater. Stick to teaching theater. I hated my political teachers, both left and right. I just wanted to learn math.
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[which candidate?](https://www.google.com/search?q=hillary+clinton+kkk&espv=2&biw=1280&bih=655&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjs9-DsuJ3QAhWCKiYKHXKsB9YQ_AUIBygC#imgrc=OMUxxCp4jfOviM%3A)
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Are you actually trying to argue that Trump is not pro-fracking? That he'll raise the minimum wage? That his "bomb the hell out of ISIS" "target the families of terrorists" and "torture is acceptable even if it isn't effective" rhetoric is going to lead to less global conflict?
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What? She lost, he won, so you can stop that "well they're both bad!" argument. It's irrelevant now. I said my concern is how it's going to affect my daughter. I am kind of having a little bit of clarity making these comments and reading the letter than OP posted, so for that I do thank you. This is a chance for me to explain to my kids that just because a bully is in charge of our country doesn't change how we act and what we do.
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This isn't okay either. People do stupid shit when they are scared. To a certain extent, I think that pushing intentionally divisive talking points to get attention drew this sort of fire to the Trump campaign.
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It's blowing my mind that I'm saying I'm upset for my daughter that our president is sexist and people are arguing, saying shit like "Hillary would have been just as bad." Like, what? Guess people not being able to wrap their head around that is a reflection is how he made it in office.
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It's pretty easy to say the sky isn't falling when you're not targeted by Trump's rhetoric. I'm sure it feels more real if you're the one who's being forced to keep an unwanted child, being called a rapist and murderer, being told you're not wanted in this country and banned from entering because of your religion or a refugee forced back into your war-torn country. Thinking it's no big deal is the kind of attitude that lets racism and sexism run rampant in this country and that's absolutely why Trump won. He was willing to come out and speak the language of bigots.
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No silly Hillary Clinton was a gift from God sent to make our country perfect like all little girls everywhere.
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Economically, yes. Ideologically, in other metrics, no. Sanders perceived honesty, and desire to champion their causes (organized labor, anti-global-trade, etc.) really spoke to them. Sanders' outreach into farming communities and the working class, both staunch Republican demographics, were extremely successful. I can only provide anecdotal evidence of the Republicans that would have jumped ship. All of them said approximately the same thing to me "I don't agree with everything he says, but I respect him a lot. I will vote for him." My father is an aging Republican who reluctantly hopped on the Trump train, he was all for Sanders. This is a man who uses "The Fountainhead" like a religious text. My father in law the same, even wrote him in on his ballot.
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I thought the Trump camp was supposed to be anti-PC. You cant just replace it with a new PC of "you can never call someone out for being sexist or racist".
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The KKK is literally out on a bridge in NC celebrating this morning waving flags around with their hoods on. Yeah it'll be okay though right? Because that's what who represented through his whole campaign.
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Are you one of the people who thinks keeping Syrian refugees out of our country makes you better for the LGBT community than what we as a community value? Like upholding marriage equality?
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The trend of socialism over capitalism.
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The entire point of this point defeats the purpose of winning with dignity. If you have dignity you do not blame loss on an entire "country" as the OP in this picture did.
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Especially if they have the temper of their old man. They may join up just in spite. It seems much more dangerous to me to restrict kids from doing something and instead try to give kids the ability to see things from both sides. All these posts today of people saying their kids are upset about the results are rather laughable to me. Their kids are only upset because their parents have pushed their political beliefs upon them. Most kids under say 14 have no real concept of what happened yesterday and are only following in their parents footsteps. My daughter is 2 and had no clue anything went on yesterday and for now I will keep that way. It has no bearing on her life right now, but as she gets older I hope to instill the ability for her to see things with an open mind. Its the only way we will eventually see change.
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"Hey dad! Stop telling me what to do. I'm going to go join the military so I can do what I want, when I want and people will stop telling me what to do!" Yeh. That's never happened.
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This is amazing to me. Dude fuck off, you have nothing to base that statement on whatsoever. And yeah, I exercised my legal right to call 911 when being pulled over by an unmarked, personal vehicle with sirens. But you know me better than I do i guess. r/gofuckyourself Edit: I'll send you a picture of me in uniform when I join you simple minded fuck
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There's a difference between policing the world and being a part of the military that defends our nation. You are so rabid about hating Trump you're now tossing logic out the window. Get it together for your kids sake
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It's just an arsehole talking big trying to impress his friend. Hilary's husband got his secretary to shove a cigar up her pussy, get over it, there isn't a thing you can do about it and the constant whining of the left only pushes people to vote guys like trump more because they get pleasure from pissing off whiny little bitches. Not saying you are a whiny little bitch that can't let things go btw but this thread is over half a year old, I had forgot I'd even posted on it until I saw your comment to me.
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Thats president elect trump to you.
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Eh. I don't really accept that. There are multiple wars going on all at once in politics, and because of systematic flaws in our system it has boiled over into the hyper partisan environment we see. People are VERY invested in the culture wars, fighting against wealth inequality and how the economy should be run, environmental battles etc. I think it belittles things people devote an immense amount of time, passion, and money on to whittle it down to just 'us vs them'. People have very strong views on how things should be ran, and at the moment our two major parties are really divided on what kind of future we want. Pretending like that doesn't exist won't help anything. We need to figure out the truth and head in that direction.
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Sitting back won't make people quit though.
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To be fair, Mulroney was still Prime Minister, so Canada might have seemed right-wing by comparison for a short window of time.
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I did have a bad time.
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That's not a source, it's a Wikipedia page with "Citation Needed" next to almost all of the dates. The UK is definitely wrong, the Duke of Wellington handed over power peacefully who was the Prime Minister that preceded Charles Gray, so that at least takes it back to at least 1828. The Governments before this were coalitions which handed over power peacefully· Quite probably the last time the UK didn't hand over power peacefully was in 1688. The page is wrong, and the fact is wrong.
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My students come in crying and they want to talk about it. If they want to talk, I talk a little before we get to work.
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Thanks for that photo of Hillary embracing a guy who left the KKK in 1952 and has disavowed them and their actions. http://www.snopes.com/clinton-byrd-photo-klan/
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No, I am advancing an argument as to why HRC failed to make inroads with crucial demographics, which were mostly lower class, where Donald Trump did. Her entire campaign was run ignoring the, rather loud, complaints of labor, lower-class, active duty military and veterans.
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It's not irrelevant. The crazed hysterics that people have launched into since Trump was elected is more embarrassing than the idiots saying they'd move to Europe when we elected "that Muslim negro Barack *Hussain*"
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Yeah, too bad we couldn't get a leader currently under FBI investigations. That doesn't know an email from a toe nail. That directly participated in the rigging of a primary election because it is "her turn". Vince Foster, cattle futures, I could go on. But go ahead, don't let that get in the way of whatever makes you feel better
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You're right he won. And past actions as indicators for judging his future actions are now irrelevant. The country has decided that he gets the next go at it, so now we judge him on things that he actually does. Finding excuses to be angry about him now accomplishes nothing but heart burn.
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Do they look scared to you? They don't to me, they just look like people who don't like something and think that attacking people is the best way to fix it, like shitty children.
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"they were asking for it! look at what they were wearing!"
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I have twin girls. Thankfully only 13 months old so no need to shield them or explain anything yet. It's hard to understand that the very guy most parents try to tell their daughters to stay away from is now the Pres. What a role model he will be. Tantrums, name calling, repeats himself over and over and louder and louder...we elected a toddler. And the only defense from every supporter is "but Hillary is this blah blah blah". That's not a defense. That's a smokescreen. I will stick to what I felt this entire time. Hillary is a terrible politician. Trump is a terrible human being.
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No no no, a massive divide is what got him into office. You cant understand his voters because you are not one, (neither am i). It looks like trumps demo was people in a shitty position, worried for their families and their jobs. you cant blame people for being willing to overlook some flaws if they believe hes going to give them secure jobs and look after their families. In their minds Hilary was a corrupt politician. the symbol of everything they hate, the one who made things bad for them in the first place.
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Abortion or other similar issues such as legalizing marijuana, gay rights, and so on are local issues. If you have a problem with it in your state, then vote for the politician or ballot question that makes changes in your favor. I live in a state that legalized gay marriage, voted yesterday to legalize marijuana, and a woman's choice is not questioned. In those instances, Trump (or Hillary for that matter) has little effect on that for me. State law trumps federal and local issues like that are up to the people of your state. As for immigration issues, Trump has been very blunt and harsh about this topic. Whether its a show for the middle America vote or not, only time will tell. I was not happy to vote for Trump, but I just could not give my vote to Hillary. This country needs a change and she was not going to bring that whatsoever. I doubt Trump will change much, especially since we have such established politicians in congress. If you really want to blame someone, blame the democratic party. They self-imploded this election and provided a poor candidate.
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Thanks for the well put-together response, I appreciate you explaining that point of view. I can see now where this could occur in republicans who respected Bernie for who he was, I am just surprised many agree with enough attributes of his campaign and goals to want to vote for him. As you said, it was probably his nation-centered ideals as well as his personality. However, in my mind, I place voting economically over voting for social issues because social issues seem to eventually come around, but without a solid economy this can't happen.
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The problem with that line of attack is that everyone said was defined as racist/sexist. If you call everything that, it starts to be less effective. When you see for 8 years guys like Romney and McCain who seemed like at least decent guys being smeared as dangerous and misogynist, and his statement about "binders of women" being taken out of context to be called sexist, then you lose your moral authority to be able to call out actual racism/sexism. Crying wolf came back to bite many, and Bill Maher actually owned up to it and admitted as much. It's not that you can't call someone out for being sexist or racist, but if you never give people the benefit of the doubt and immediately claim every misspoken word or statement is parsed out to always look for the most evil and devious interpretation, then it wears thin very very quickly.
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While I'm also concerned about that small minority of voters that exhibits racist tendencies, you have to realize that since Obama won two terms, some of his voters switched to Trump. A good amount of these people are anti-globalists, not racists. They are workers scared about a changing and increasingly automated world who were not given a clear economic message from Hillary. Trump promises to bring jobs back (whether he can or not, I'm not overly optimistic) but taxing the rich, may sound good in terms of them paying their "fair share" but that doesn't put some lower or middle class person into an actual job. She failed to make that case. You can assume the victory is because of the worst in others, or assume good motivations for the most part and work to provide that from your political side while minimizing the shitty parts. That's how I'm going to try to approach it.
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[No, they weren't you alarmist crybaby..](http://www.snopes.com/klan-marches-celebrate-trump-victory/)
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Being concerned about refugees from a part of the world known for extremism without clear vetting procedures doesn't automatically make you xenophobic. You would screen someone before you let them into your house or near your family. Doing the same for the country is not a bad idea. No one is honestly going to shut down all immigration, but trying to weed out the low percentage of bad people should be reasonable and center of the road politics IMO.
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I think it belittles the situation when people boil it down to "us vs them." It belittles the situation when a large amount of people generalize all Trump supporters as racists, misogynists, and homophobes. It belittles the situation when people on the other side tend to generalize Clinton supports as SJWs who are just seeking attention. The problem with "us vs them" is that it leaves no room for "I" or "you". The human brain likes simple scenarios. Our brains are therefore inclined to think that the "us" is perfect and the "them" is evil, and it makes no attempt to understand that people on both sides have reasonable arguments. It is belittling to humanity in general to believe it is "us vs them." It tries to make an enormously complex issue and turn it into something binary, when it is really a spectrum.
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You can't make them quit. You have to convince them to quit. But you likely can't do that for many people. You have to get them to take a step towards you so that their children can take two steps towards you.
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I was just posting what he wanted, tbh. I'm curious about the sources too, and would love if someone tidied up the article.
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Get some sources and update it! That's the entire point of Wikipedia
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More? How is it more embarrassing when Trump literally said the things people don't like? Edit: and it is irrelevant. He won. Down the road when he manages to remove a vital federal program or ruins a world market, are you going to say "welp Hillary would have been just as bad".
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Yes... Not being a misogynist is so much more embarrassing than being a racist.
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It is too bad. Now i have to explain to my kids that now we have one who has criminal and civil charges for sexual assault. I definitely care more about that than any email scandal or whatever
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Eh it can at least justify my concerns
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Yea... state law does not trump federal law - you've got that part backwards. No matter how progressive your state is if federal law is different on the same issue, federal law wins out. It's called the supremacy clause, & its in the constitution.
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That's great you live in a progressive state but my point is that not everyone does. You might be ok not caring how other people are affected but I do. Like I said, it's easy to not care how racism and sexism affects other people but that doesn't make the problem go away.
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> Abortion or other similar issues such as legalizing marijuana, gay rights, and so on are local issues. If you have a problem with it in your state, then vote for the politician or ballot question that makes changes in your favor. I live in a state that legalized gay marriage, voted yesterday to legalize marijuana, and a woman's choice is not questioned. In those instances, Trump (or Hillary for that matter) has little effect on that for me. You could not be more wrong. The SCOTUS will swing hard right under Trump. That could last a decade or more, and will eliminate gay marriage and a woman's right to choose. I mean, it's not like they are hiding this agenda. Federal law criminalizing marijuana will also render state initiatives on the topic meaningless, though it is less clear to me that the hard right cares as much about that item.
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Thank you for being civil! Trade was the biggest economic view that Sanders would have represented them on. The TPP was a bum-deal for a lot of engineers, tech-workers and skilled laborers. These are fairly Republican demos. Fear of war with Russia also fed into Trump's success within these communities as well (and a lot of them were Republican "nose-holders" in the #nevertrump camp because of this.) Some of these people are generational military, for both tradition and monetary reasons (the GI bill is the only way their kids can get into college without loans.) They have already lost a lot of their friends and family to OIF and OEF... I really wish HRC and the DNC were willing to take a page from Sander's campaign on these issues and saw how they resonated with a lot of groups.
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They were sexist. We just went from bad to worse.
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exactly.. that was Clinton's media spinning it. If you look it up, Trump said that importing the refugees should be suspended UNTIL the government improves the vetting process. But then again, not all people like to do their own fact checking and read articles on the full political spectrum.
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That didn't answer my question, and there is screening for them currently.
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Lazy, fishing or ignorant? How about just 1 since I'm not sure which one you are. The 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development. That is a super bonus example for you because it's aim is for global socialism by combating wealth inequality by spreading wealth INTERNATIONALY.
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I think peoples motives are far more complex than you're stateing here. I see your point though, and do agree to an extent. Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
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You're talking like I'm taking up arms against my fellow countrymen which I'm not. I volunteer and walk door to door to get people to vote. I debate. I call people reminding them that the Democratic party is the only party working for the middleclass. And I try to engage disenfranchised people to see that the system can effect change if they want it too.
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That makes sense, I'm glad I have another perspective on Sanders supporters. Thanks.
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And by holding that kind of position, regular people will just tune you out. If John McCain is a sexist, then the term is meaningless, and most people will just roll their eyes, because you've defined down the term to be inclusive of everyone and therefore shouldn't be taken seriously.
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Given the speed at which refugees were being settled here, there was legitimate concern that the vetting process was not very rigorous. These are legitimate concerns. Also, the refugee question is a non-sequitir for the LGBT question. As far as I know Trump is not against same sex marriage.
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Calling them racist is not debating.
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Oh yeah...that'd definitely what the republicans did the last 8 years...rallied behind Obama and hoped for his success!?
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Lmao the hypocrisy, the republicans obstructed Obama at any opportunity and set him up to fail and the United States is in the best place it's been in decades. So no, if you wanted liberals to rally behind your God Emperor maybe you shouldn't have been hypocrites
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You're 100% right.
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Multiple sources say he wants to appoint justices that would overturn it at a federal level and take it back to the states. That's not even remotely for same sex marriage. Once again, if it's not the refugees thing that I've heard a million times, I don't know how he's in any way a positive thing for the LGBT community. Let alone more positive than Clinton.
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Of course it's a conspiracy (which is frequently given negative connotation because a lot of folks think we're not supposed to question what we're told by the government ), just like people were called conspiracy theorists in a negative way many years ago when they predicted our US government would obtain most all electronic records. Now, whistle blowers are saying it's true. Of course the public papers on such a subject wouldn't disclose any info they don't want you to know.
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I’m sending you hugs across the internet, dude.
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I have a 3 year old…I’m going to get off Reddit and spend time with him. Thank you for sharing. Your post is a bittersweet reminder for every parent what’s really important. I’m so sorry for everything.
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I'm sorry man, I offer my sincerest condolences. cancer fucking sucks, lost my wife to it 6 years ago. Seriously consider seeking therapy for you and your wife. There are cases where caring for someone who has a prolonged illness can cause complex PTSD, its has been difficult to deal with, but not completely insurmountable.
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My wife and I discovered that our 15-year-old has Hodgkin's lymphoma just recently. The initial prognosis is good, but I can't sleep at night. Reading this post breaks my heart, but it also gives me hope. From your words I can see that you and your wife faced this bravely and with your bond intact. It serves as an inspiration to me as sometimes I just want to collapse in a crying heap. I'm so sorry for your loss, there aren't enough tears to cry in the world for this kind of loss. Thank you for sharing your experience and know that this post WILL serve as a guidepost for people who are grieving it would like to know how to do so with dignity. Love you, Fellow Dad.
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My deepest sympathies. Your son sounds incredible. Take care.
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I fucking love you and I’m so, so sorry. Every internet hug.
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Not much harder than that brother. My condolences to you and your family. You got this. Do it for him. If you ever need anything we Dads got your back dude.
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I can't finish reading this. There aren't really and words for this type of thing.
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No words from me only tears my friend
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Just a fellow dad, sitting, crying with you
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I took comfort in the fact his pain has ended. I shed tears for *you.* The pain of loss has just begun for you and your family, and for that I am so very sorry. In memory of your son, I gave my daughter a very tight squeeze and told her how much I loved her. (she was grumpy because she couldn't see the TV. Totally worth it.) You all fought for every second with your boy, and you will have every one of those seconds forever. Now he is in your heart. Make that heart as full as you possibly can for him. Fill it up with as much of you, your wife, and his sibling(s) as you can stuff in there. HUGS
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I'm so sorry mate. I wish I had something better to say.
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Sending you hugs and my deepest condolences. I'm in tears reading this. It's fucking unfair...
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Like a few others posted, my son is the same age. The thought of losing him is incomprehensible. I truly hope you take comfort in knowing you gave him the best, and fullest life you could. His love will be with you and your family forever.
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Oof.. that is rough. It goes without saying, but anything that would help you through this feel free to let me know. My boy is right about that age and I can't imagine the pain you are going through.
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Thank you for sharing. My heart breaks for you and your family. My condolences.
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There will never be words to comfort you, but there are a lot of people out here pulling for you.
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It sounds like you have good support around you. I am glad to hear at least that. May you one day find the peace that you seek and deserve.
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Fuck, I remember your original post and it stuck with me for a long time. Especially the part where your kid being full of energy and wanting to play. Thoughts going out to you and yours.
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So sorry bud. Can’t imagine the pain you and your family are experiencing.
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Fuck cancer. Sorry brother.
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I haven’t seen it said yet, I think it needs to be said: fuck cancer.
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So, so sorry for your loss, brother.
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My condolences to you and your family, if you need anything feel free to message me. I know I’m just a stranger but I’d be willing to help as much as I can. I can’t even imagine what y’all are going through.
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Hugs
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I am so sorry for your loss. May the memory of your son be a blessing.
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Tearing up my friend. I wish you and your family and friend the best
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I’m so sorry. Rest in power to your boy. His struggle is over and now you have to be strong and remember him in all is glory. My wife and daughter are playing in another room and I will never take the laughter and pitter patter of little feet for granted while we live. This much I owe to you. None of you deserves this.
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I read every word... Having a one year old son this post really hits me, knowing my sons curiosity, cleverness and awareness. I thank you for sharing. I hope you and your wife do some happy things, either spontaneously or in honour of this very specific journey. I'd offer more words but none are needed. All the best for your lives moving forward