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The idea of an apostacy did not originate with Lucy Smith or Joseph
Smith or the Mormons. The idea of a restoration was quite common
in the early 19th century USA. Alexander Campbell, founder of the
group that now survives with the name "Disciples of Christ" preached
that the primitive church had been lost and was attempting to restore
it (although not be revelations). Many Cambellites subsequently became
Mormons, including co-founder Sidney Rigdon. Actually, you can find
such sentiments in many of the early protestants of the reformation,
such as Martin Luther.
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Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."
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I always believed the statement 'those who do not know their history
are condemned to repeat it (Will Durant ?), but I am beginning to
believe the opposite is true.
Here in t.p.m and in other newsgroups it seems that history is
mainly remembered to foment hatred or to be used as a club. In the
history of my own people there are ample acts of shame, both done
by my people and done to my people. Since I was not party to any
of those acts, I refuse to accept blame for the evil acts that my
ancestors committed, nor do I direct hatred toward the descendants
of those who committed evil acts against my ancestors.
Will all of this discussion rebuild a single mosque? Will it rebuild
the Temple? Somehow I doubt that it will.
A post in another group, on the Bosnian war, asked us all to love
each other, that love would conquer hate. Sadly, I remember a TV
interview with a young woman in Sarajevo (sp?) who was as I remember,
a former olympic calibre contestant in the rifle shoot. She was now
trying to pick-off Serbian snipers. During the communist years she
had married a Serb, who was now fighting against her people. So it
seems that hate will conquer love.
Is there an odd chance that we might all forget past wrongs and try
and see how we might all live together? It's a damn small planet,
which we have come very close to turning into a radioactive ball,
glowing softly in space. We seem to have been spared that prospect,
shall we now bathe it in each other's blood?
Shalom, Salam, and Peace
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I have just added a Panasonic KP-X1123 24pin dot matrix printer to a 386sx/25. I installed
the appropriate Windows 3.1 printer driver (i.e. one specifically for this printer) but I'm
unable to persuade the poxy thing to print correctly.
What appears to be happening is that the TrueType fonts don't get printed properly. My
experiments show that all graphic images (for example a line drawing from Corel Draw) print
ok. GraphicsWorkshop for Windows happily prints GIFs etc. MS Notepad and MS Write will
print correctly providing the font's in the text are printer fonts.
When I print TrueType fonts, some lines appear to be printed in the wrong order. If I change
the text font to a printer font, the problem is eliminated.
I have tried using printer drivers for printers which the KX-P1123 (snappy name) emulates,
namely Epsom LQ-850 and IBM ProPrinter X24 and the same problem occurs.
If there is some kind soul who can tell me just what the hell is going on, I would be most
chuffed.
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I really feel the need for a knowledgable hockey observer to explain this year's playoffs to me. I mean, the obviously superior Toronto team with the best center and the best goalie in the league keeps losing. What gives?
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I stand by all the misstatements that I've made.
-- Vice President Dan Quayle to Sam Donaldson, 8/17/89
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[Discussion on Josephus inserts]
Thanks. Am I correct, then, in assuming that that Josephus
did in fact write about Jesus, but Christian copists embellished it?
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[BH] Tsiel,
[BH] I would contend that there was shelling from both sides of the border,
[BH] starting from the early 70's. Certainly the PLO did shell Northern
[BH] Israel from the Arqoub region, but Israel did much more shelling
[BH] destroying several South Lebanese villages. At the very least
[BH] we can say that both sides exchanged shelling, with occasional
[BH] aerial raids by Israel on Lebanese villages.
[BH] In any case Steve's characterization that the 1982 invasion was only in
[BH] response to years of shelling from Lebanon is false. Israel had
[BH] many reasons for invading but mainly it did so to install a government
[BH] in Lebanon favorable to Israel, and it nearly achieved this aim
[BH] with the election of Basheer El Gemayel, and his brother, Amin
[BH] El Gemayel, but the internal situation in Lebanon was too hard
[BH] to control and predict so Israel had to withdraw, and Amin El Gemayel
[BH] had to abrogate the 17 th of May Agreement.
Basil,
I was only correcting Steve's statement that Geurillas were shelling Israel
from the Golan, which was absurd.
The fact that "Israel did much more shelling" was in response to Palestinian
shelling from Lebanon. Israel has no intention of keeping an inch of Lebanese
territory. Israel will continue to fight Hizbullah, PLO, FPLP etc. as long as
its northern border is not quiet. If the Lebanese army can control these
elements then I think we can see genuine peace on the Israel-Lebanese border.
I remind you that a couple thousand Lebanese cross each day into Israel to
work.
As for the election of Bashir Gemayel, it is true that he was favorable to
Israel, is that why the Syrians killed him? His brother Amin was a Syrian
puppet, if he had not been, he would have been dead by now.
Tsiel
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Try to run Xsun under truss(1).
The best way to do this is by logging in over the network
and typing:
truss -t open Xsun
open("/opt/X11R5/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.dir", O_RDONLY, 0666) = 8
open("/opt/X11R5/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.alias", O_RDONLY, 0666) = 8
open("/opt/X11R5/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/fonts.dir", O_RDONLY, 0666) = 8
open("/opt/X11R5/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/fonts.alias", O_RDONLY, 0666) Err#2 ENOENT
open("/opt/X11R5/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/fonts.dir", O_RDONLY, 0666) = 8
open("/opt/X11R5/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/fonts.alias", O_RDONLY, 0666) = 8
open("/opt/X11R5/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/fonts.dir", O_RDONLY, 0666) = 8
open("/opt/X11R5/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/fonts.alias", O_RDONLY, 0666) = 8
open("/opt/X11R5/lib/X11/fonts/misc/6x13.pcf", O_RDONLY, 0666) = 8
open("/opt/X11R5/lib/X11/fonts/misc/cursor.pcf", O_RDONLY, 0666) = 8
This will give you and idea of where Xsun things the fonts should be.
If you have defined a project root and done a make install, everything
should have gone right by default, even without symbolic links.
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The article was probably referring to changing the clock oscillator in a manner similar to that done on Quadra 700's and IIsi's. I haven't read a report of this actually being done on a Centris 610 but supposedly this also works on Q900,
Q950 and centris 650 machines.
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I totally agree with your friend, since when the CPU is apparently idle
it is still in fact churning away millions of instructions per second
(checking for keyboard input for instance).
The exception to this is for CPU's used in laptops, where the CPU can
enter an idle state where it is just preserving its current status but
doing absolutely nothing. In this case it needs a hardware interrupt
to get it going again.
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Victor Buttigieg e-mail: victor@uk.ac.man.ee.comms
Communications Research Group
University of Manchester
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It was not just those penalties. Most of all it was the penalty the referee didn't
call on the Czechs right before their first goal.
Don't you think it's quite silly to call it a Nazi attitude, when some people
throw coins on the ice? Hey, I don't approve the behavior of these guys,
especially not in a WC game, but I can't see any reason for using the word 'Nazi'
in this connection.
Soccer hooligans are not just a German problem (remember the world cup in Italy).
Again: there's a big difference between throwing coins and smashing shop-windows
or fighting with other so-called 'fans', who come to a WC just to see if the
Dutch or the English or the Germans are the best bruisers.
Which other sports are you talking about? I don't think soccer is 'every possible
sport'.
How many Germans do you know? Do you think 200 out of 10000 is 'most of them'?
If you hear about some white policemen beating a black man in the US, what do you
think about the Americans? 'Most of them' like beating blacks?
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:
: Why can't he record it legally? It may not be admissable in court, but
: recording for personal use is legal. If he wants to play it for his ham
: friend, that's legal too, as long as he doesn't charge admission.
Yeah - I goofed - a slip of the mind. I must be getting senile.
... deleted ...
: Hey Bill, where were you three weeks ago when all this stuff was posted
: and dealt with?
Busy posting on about 20 other groups. I get to this one about once every
three months or so.
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I am looking for a VESA local bus Card.
to control my IDE drives, Floppies, game port, parallel port, and most
of all my serial ports. the serial ports must have sockets for the
UARTs and non of this intergraded chipset that generic boards have on
them.
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Hello again.
Anyone here done any tinting work. What are the best brands out there?
How about applications...I heard there was a water based brand that s
you can move around, till it's just right, and you then let it dry like that.
Also I would consider having it professionally done, how much around
Wisconsin or Chcago area, that does a decent job, fairly cheap. (college kid)
Thanks for all the info...
Ps. What is the maximum legal tint limit.
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Sure thing. Here are the FIrstClass systems in those area codes:
MacValley Online Burbank, CA (818) 840-0518
The Drawing Board Hacienda Heights, CA (818) 965-6241
BPS Hollywood, CA (213) 874-1919
SanGabriel Valley MUG Pasadena, CA (818) 790-5426
And here is all of California (unformated, sorry):
Middle Earth Anaheim, CA (714) 828-9758
Byte Out of The Apple Benecia, CA (707) 747-0306
Planet BMUG Berkley, CA (510) 849-2684
MacValley Online Burbank, CA (818) 840-0518
Gentle Rain Forum Claremont, CA (909) 593-6144
CyberSpace BBS Culver City, CA (310) 568-9184
* AllNet Cupertino, CA (408) 736-2607
The Boy's Club Cupertino, CA (408) 261-8331
Meme Net Fresno, CA (209) 431-6363
Sierra Mouse Trap Grass Valley, CA (916) 265-9739
The Drawing Board Hacienda Heights, CA (818) 965-6241
The Public BBS Half Moon Bay, CA (415) 726-3587
BPS Hollywood, CA (213) 874-1919
Imagine-NET Irvine, CA (714) 660-7738
eNet La Canada, CA (818) 952-6609
Guerilla Symbiotics La Verne, CA (909) 593-6862
Macrocosm Livermore, CA (510) 449-1648
OneNet Los Altos, CA (415) 948-1349
MacIsland Los Angeles, CA (310) 476-2299
MacShasta Mt. Shasta, CA (916) 926-4854
Foundation Newhall, CA (805) 255-7237
SanGabriel Valley MUG Pasadena, CA (818) 790-5426
Gooey BBS Point Mugu, CA (805) 986-1216
Servant Christian BBS Redondo Beach, CA (310) 371-2770
SBAMUG Redondo Beach, CA (310) 792-8083
A-1 EZ OK San Diego, CA (619) 693-1575
This is not empTV? San Diego, CA (619) 450-1590
Harry's BBS San Francisco, CA (415) 824-7809
Bare Bones BBS San Jose, CA (408) 272-2173
City Connection San Jose, CA (408) 272-3332
MacDaze Santa Barbara, CA (805) 964-6320
Mac Magic Santa Barbara, CA (805) 682-1737
Crumal's Dimension Santa Clara, CA (408) 246-7854
Casa del Cyborg Santa Cruz, CA (408) 457-2595
Beacon Comminque' Simi Valley, CA (805) 522-9602
Channel Z Simi Valley, CA (805) 581-4975
Jake and the Mac Man Solona Beach, CA (619) 775-2142
Iguana BBS Sunnyvale, CA (408) 733-8626
VIZability Walnut Creek, CA (510) 210-0800
- Jason
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Cute characterization Bill; however, there is no inconsistency between
the two statements. Even if one believes that religion is "primitive,
simple-minded and unscientific, anti-intellectual and childish", one
can still hold the view that religion also adds an unnecessary level of
complexity to the explanation. The ideas themselves don't have to be
complex before being excised by Occam's Razor, they only have to add
unnecessarily to the overall complexity of the description.
I think the non-essential part of an explanatory system is one that
adds no predictive capability to the system.
Huh?
^^^^^
Watch it, your Freudian Slip is showing
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Fred Gilham asks whether it is true that Goedel wrote a version of
the ontological argument for the existence of God.
Yes, it is true. Someone has published a rebuttal pointing out
certain flaws in the argument, and recently Professor C Anthony
Anderson, of the Philosophy Department of the University of
Minnesota, has written a revised version of the argument, perhaps
free of flaws, and at any rate free of the flaws complained of in
the original version. He has sent me a copy, which I still have (I
saw it last week when I was looking for something else), and when it
surfaces again I can supply particulars. My guess is that it is
being published (or already has been) in the Journal of Symbolic
Logic.
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You are quite confident that essences do not exist. How do propose to
define beings? Can a thing can be *one* without definition? Can a being
have a definition and know essence?
What about properties? Do beings have properties? Does God have
properties?
Does numbers exist in reality as abstract entities or do we invent them?
See my post in alt.messianic about the possibilities of tri-theism from a
phiolosophical point of view.
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Has anyone built Xkernel for 3/80's? It works great on our 3/50s, and I
would just as soon kiss the entire Sun 3 architeture goodbye (and reclaim
a bunch of disk space). Email me direct, I'll post a summary.
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Thanks to everyone who mailed help, unfortunately the end problem was a REALLY
stupid `oversight' on my behalf. The code was 100% perfect, but it might
help to add Control.C to my makefile.......
Anyway the mangled name was telling me it could'nt locate the Control
constructor...
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The bacteria in your gut are important. But colonic flushes are not the
way to improve gut function. Each person has almost a unique mix of
bacteria in his/her gut. Diet affects this mix as does the use of
antibiotics. A diet change is a much better way to alter the players in
your gut than is colonic flushes. Cross contamination has been a real
problem in some of the outfits that do this "treatment" since the equipment
is not always cleaned as well as it should be between patient "treatments".
Dental drills have me a little concerned about HIV infection and I've
picked a dentist that uses both chemical and autoclave sterilization of his
instruments(more clostly but much safer). Full sterile technique is
also used just like that practiced in an OR(mask, gloves and gowns worn and
disposed of between patients). Each visit costs me 15 dollars more than
the standard and customary fee so I have to pay it out of pocket. His much
higher fees do not drive away patients.
I can not think of any good reason why someone should subject themselves to
this colonic flush procedure. For very little, if any benefit, you
subject yourself to hepatitis, cholera, parasitic disease and even HIV.
Just ask yourself why someone might resort to this kind of treatment?
Could they be having GI distress? Could this distress be due to a
pathogenic organism? Could I get this organism if the equipment is not
cleaned properly between patients? Do I really want to take this risk?
Food for thought.
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I've only ever done it in an automatic. I was sitting in my Olds, in
the winter, at a light, when I heard screeching behind me. I managed to
dart into the left turn lane before the sliding Jetta wound up half
where I was and half in the parked car beside where I was. I've never
had occasion to do it on a bike, but I imagine that it would be even
easier, because you could slip beside the car in front. Giving a gander
at the mirrors while at a light will give you time to get the clutch
out smoothly when you notice trouble, instead of waiting for the
screeching.
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I was wondering if someone could send me the pinouts to the Apple 13" and
14" RGB monitors. Those parts of the docs seem to have been misplaced
around here.
Thanks a _lot_ for your help.
Kevin
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Internet: lepard@mayo.edu
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You are correct (several times). TEMPEST is a codeword for a standard, shared between the NATO governments, to limit the inadvertent emission of information by either electromagnetic radiation or conduction. The limits set in the
standard are classified but there is open source information to the effect
that either the electrical or magnetic components of electromagnetism can be
exploited. It is a basic rule of physics that there is an electromagnetic
field associated with any path that conducts a flow of electrons.
Among other things, I drive a 1987 Korean built AT clone and an associated 24 pin dotmatrix printer. The major source of unintentional emission is the CRT. To that can be added the video driver card, the RS232 parallel cable and the
printer head. The emissions from these are gross can be detected with the
crudest of equipment. Were I to apply good test equipment and some
intelligence to measuring emission levels, I would find many other potential
sources of leaked information.
Where cryptography is used for serious purposes, poor TEMPEST protection
becomes an important security hazard.
In the early eighties, the need to allow some commercial concerns,
particularly financial institutions, a level of protection against TEMPEST
threat led to a series of briefings to invited corporations and to the
'release' of a cut-down TEMPEST stansard for commercial use. I say 'release'
for while equipment to meet the standard is available (at a price and to
approved customers) AFAIK even the commercial standard remains classified. If
you think about it, it would really have to wouldn't it?
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Several weeks ago, I described a problem with my Apple High-Resolution
monitor and promised to summarize replies received by e-mail. To
recapitulate: Occasionally, every two or three hours or so, my monitor
momentarily loses sync. The entire raster image bounces down about an
eighth of an inch or so, then rights itself. This usually happens right
after I close a large window, highlight a large area, or do something that
radically alters the image on the screen. Sometimes, though, it happens
with no provocation whatsoever.
I have received a bewildering range of replies. At one extreme was
a man, clearly quite knowledgable about monitors, who said that the
problem was that the 13" monitor's power supply simply couldn't always
keep up with sudden changes of the raster image; the rapid change from
a largely light screen to a largely dark one overtaxed the monitor's
power supply. There was no fix available, he said, because nothing was
really wrong. (I guess he meant that the flaw was so fundamental that
it had to be endured.)
This seemed quite persuasive and I would have been tempted to
adopt an attitude of stoicism, except for a reply from a 13" monitor
owner who discovered that this very problem is documented in the
Apple Service Technical Procedures, Volume 3, under the heading
Jitter Correction. The section describes a fix involving the replacement
of a capacitor, the adjustment of a potentiometer, or, failing that,
the swap of a circuit board.
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A friend of mine would like to sell his 850 MB SCSI drive for $800 + S/H.
It is a full-height drive, and has been used for about one and a half years.
If anyone is interested, please e-mail me. Thank you.
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Build 59 still has a number of problems--sheared fonts, for
instance, if you have Crystal Fonts enabled. Some other problems--
"color darkening" and some others. I don't use the drivers in
any mode other than 1024x768x256, so if there are bugs in the
other modes I can't say.
To be honest, up until now, I have only found one bug in the
Diamond Viper drivers, and it seems innocuous.
That is, under Microsoft Word, select Format Border, click
shading and take a look at the patterns. The 5% pattern
has been swapped with the 90%, and so on. The whole list
is _completely_ reversed--looks right onscreen, but take
it to another machine (i.e., a GUP or ss24x machine) or
print it and iy shows--badly!
Keep in mind that I use mainly 1024x768x65k mode, so I can't
speak for the others, but otherwise these drivers seem pretty
solid.
--
"What's big, noisy and has an IQ of 8?"
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Apparently, the public workers' strike in St John's, Newfoundland is over.
The strike has, since mid-January, forced the St John's Maple Leafs hockey
team to play their home games in other cities such as Toronto, Cornwall
and Charlottetown. They have been playing their playoff home games
in Halifax, Nova Scotia. Leafs' management said that they COULD
return to St John's for the second round.
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Charles Boesel writes
(sci.image.processing,comp.graphics), wdm@world.std.com (Wayne Michael)
Illustrator for SGI is a shipping product. Adobe and SGI have announced that
Photoshop is being ported to SGI machines. A simillar announcement has been
made by Adobe and Sun for Sun platforms. No dates have been announced to the
best of my knowledge.
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David Gibbs replies:
I guess I was semi-serious. Without using my hands, I lean and the bike
turns. When leaning, a torque is applied, at a 90deg angle to the front
wheel's axle, just as in countersteering. However, this torque is also about
90deg from the axis of the steering head. Instead of making the
bike lean, gyroscopic effect makes the bars turn, but I don't remember
which way.
-Rick
Oh yeah, I tried this in the driveway, on the centestand,(as suggested
somewhere else) but it doesn't seem to work the same.
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As does the idea that a CS gas canister can get hot enough to ignite dry
baled hay.
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A question for any high-mileage Audi owners out there: I am
interested in buying a 1989 Audi 5000S for $5500 Cdn. The
reason the car is selling for so little is that is has
155000 km on it (just under 100000 mi.). The car's owner
claims the car is in good condition. My question is: how
reliable are Audi 5000s with mileage that high? Would it
be worthwhile for me to buy the car? Any problem areas that
I should look out for?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Post responses and/or
e-mail me.
Thanks
Steve Hui
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This summer (~July 20) my wife (Michelle) and I will be in Boston
attending my brother's wedding. After the wedding we are planning
to motor up to Bar Harbor, Maine to visit some relatives for a few
days. Our summer would be *made* if we could find a bike (or bikes)
to borrow or rent to ride up to Bar Harbor and back.
Here's some important details: I've been riding for ~11 years,
(my own bikes for the past 7 years), Michelle has been riding for the
past 6 years (her own bikes), I've only been involved in one accident
which was caused by a cage driver running a stop sign, I currently own
a BMW R90, Michelle owns a Yamaha Virago 700, we prefer cruising over
racing, we've toured a fair amount, we're both licensed and insured,
and we're nice people.
So, if anyone has a bike (or bikes :-), but the second one would have
to be a Virago or something else with an equally low seat) that they
would be willing to loan us for 3-4 days in July, Michelle and I would
be eternally grateful. In addition to our friendship, you would also
have the use of our bikes should you ever pass through Minneapolis.
In exchange, we would be happy to take you and a guest out for dinner
and an evening of wild bike stories, or we might even be willing to
cough up some money for improvements to the bike(s), like new tires or
something.
Also, any information about bike rentals in the Boston area would be
greatly appreciated.
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In X10, the drawing attributes were bundled into drawing
requests; that is, the server's drawing model was stateless.
This caused problems with performance and network traffic,
so the X11 redesign included the graphic context to codify
the drawing state. Most application designers who want to
draw things in several different colors create a GC for
each color during initialization, then pass the GC id in
each drawing request.
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> Mary at that time appeared to a girl named Bernadette at
> Lourdes. She referred to herself as the Immaculate Conception.
> Since a nine year old would have no way of knowing about the
> doctrine, the apparition was deemed to be true and it sealed
> the case for the doctrine.
Bernadette was 14 years old when she had her visions, in 1858,
four years after the dogma had been officially proclaimed by the
Pope.
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Oh, really. When?
The '93 Mustang Cobra can. Check it out.
Ehhhh, maybe. The '93 Mustang Cobra does a good job for a lower price,
and it's just a taste of what's ahead in the 30th Anniversary of
the original Pony Car.
Just think! Corvettes are almost up to the performance levels
of a '65 Cobra! Wow! In a few years, they might be up to the
performance levels of a '66 Ford GT-40. Wow, man, just think
about it... ;-)
James
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Hi, folks,
I have a question:
How can I generate a PCX file using Word for Windows (2.0) ?
I know I can select a Postscript printer driver to get a PS file, but how
can I generate a PCX file ? Is there a printer capture utility for windows
that ever exists ? Or a utility to transfer PS format to PCX format, or
TIFF format?
Please reply by E-MAIL, I will give a summary. Thanks.
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I'm not sure about this but I hope the answer is that you can't apply under
the law of return. By conversion, you've elected not to be a part of the
Jewish nation.
At the moment you converted, you officially anounced to the world that *you* do not
consider yourself to be part of the Jewish Nation. So, why should the Jewish Nation
consider you to be a member?
No. As a result of wars brought by the Arabs against the Jews in an attempt to
annihilate Israel, the Arabs have lost their claim to land there. Attacking Israel
is/was illegal and they now have to pay the price. Do I feel sorry for the
Palestinians? Yes I do. But I blame the Arab nations for their problems, not
Israel.
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By not being able to drive for a year, it was close enough to jail.
And, BTW, where the hell did I ask for sympathy.
I asked what to do about insurance, not about my _life_.
FWIW, if everyone was _honest_ on this group, I'd
others besides me that read this have had a DWI too.
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Well over 100,000 in Lebanon alone.
1,000,000 - 2,000,000 in the Iran/Iraq conflict, even if Iranians
aren't Arabs, strictly speaking. (They seem to hate the Zionists at
least as much as anyone else in the neighborhood. Is there some
correlation perhaps between hating Israel and killing off your own
people?)
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I assume that you are literally trying to create a widget of type
textWidgetClass. Use the AsciiText widget instead.
Jim
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Has anyone seen hallusions? You can buy a poster of them and it looks like a simple dot pattern
when you first look at it but if you focus behind it you see a 3d picture. I'm looking for
a program that generates these pictures. There's a company in Texas that makes them but I
doubt if they're giving the program away. Any help would be appreciated.
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Sorry, I've lost track of who asked the question originally
(our news server at GSFC keeps things around for tremendously
short periods of time), but wanted to be certain before I
replied. Someone asked about displaying the compressed images
from the Voyager imaging CD-ROMs on a Mac. As Peter Ford (MIT)
pointed out, a decompression program is available via FTP.
(Sorry, I don't remember the name of the node offhand,
although it's .mit.edu.) In any case, though, one of the MAC
display programs (CD ROM Browser by Dana Swift) does display
the compressed images directly. The program is shareware and
is distributed by NSSDC for nominal reproduction costs ($9 +
shipping, if memory serves). This does *not* cover the
shareware price which should go to Dana for his diligent work
and upgrades, however.
To request current pricing information, information about
available display software, catalogs, or data from NSSDC,
contact our user support office at:
National Space Science Data Center
Coordinated Request and User Support Office (CRUSO)
Mail Code 633
NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Greenbelt, MD 20771
Phone: (301) 286-6695
Fax: (301) 286-4952
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D> I am going to purchase a Modem with a S/R FAX capability. Currently I
D> am considering Suprav.32bis or Global Village Teleport-Gold.
D>
D> The Global Village averages about $100 more, is there an advantage?
D>
D> Concerning FAX: Do I need to be present when there are incoming FAX
D> i.e., will the modem software recognize an incoming FAX and store the
D> information. Once received, can I use Mac applications on the image.
D>
My telephone line seems pretty stable and I have the Supra as well. Works
great but with every passing day I fall behind on how many great 14.4s are
out. Zoom is out of the question from what I'm hearing. AT&T has a great
product from what I hear and the Sportster is really cheap now too.
If you want to receive a fax, your computer will have to be on, but not
the monitor and of course the modem. You can set the number of rings that
will receive the fax on a specific ring you set with Fax STF software.
It's entirely up to you how to arrange that. I've had faxes sent to me
which is great but I've been home to set it. I don't have a need to set
fax receiving up all day. Also I hear there is a device that can channel
all incoming phone signals for about $70. Rumor also that the phone
company can hook you up with the same gizmo for about $5 if that's what
you need.
Best of luck and write back if you'd like more feedback.
* Freddie 1.2.5 * Clinton: The Tax Man Cometh & Cometh & Cometh & keeps on coming
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This neatly eliminates the need for a savior and "proves" that we can be
saved by works alone! If we have no original sin, then it is possible for
us to save ourselves by not sinning. I understand the reasoning behind your
argument, but it leads to sheer folly. Original sin is the reason we need
faith to be saved.
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Nothing wrong with what Felix did. The only problem was that he didn't Dino
hard enough. Next time Felix aim for the ankles!!!!!!!!!!
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hi all, i got several emails and a couple news replies and i guess i
shoulda went into more detail... Being my anxiety level is peaking and you
folks have no clue who I am I may as well post the specifics and see what
you people think regarding my previous post.
To recap i applied to 20 schools total, 16 of which were MD and 4 DO.
as it stands now i have had 13 rejects, 4 interviews( 2 MD and 2 DO), the
results of which are 2 waiting lists (1 MD and one DO)
3 schools i heard nothing from at all.
I have contacted all institutions other than the rejects and they have no
info whatsoever to tell me.
I have taken a good mix to apply to.. 2-3 top schools a bunch of middles
and a few "safety" (funny that most of my safety schools were the first
to reject me)
my index is at like a 3.5 mcats were R7 P9 B10 WQ and R7 P9 B11 WR
I couldnt get the damn reading score up... i never stuff like art
history, politics etc
Ive done medical research at the undergrad level, done clinical lab work
for years now, but unfortunately i have no patient contact experience.
I cant think of what else i left out... but thats the summary. What
percent of people are usually called from the waiting lists on an average?
I felt that my interviews went quite well yet i dont have a firm
acceptance in my hand... anyone have any suggestions as to calm the
mailbox anxiety?
If you premeds out there or med students have any questions or comments
for me feel free to send them down... Typing is a form of anti-anxiety
thereapy hehehehe :)
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Geez, I didn't realize things were so bad at Ohio State that they can't
afford phone books, or even operators.
This is probably Clinton's fault, isn't it...8^)
403.
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Pierre Turgeon of NYI, and Paul Coffey of Detorit are both #77.
Hope this help.
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Yes! Just take money from the profitable commercial enterprises
and give it to the government to "redistribute." Government is so much
more efficient, trustworthy, and noble than self-serving businesses. :)
Let's nip this redistributionist ignorance in the bud. If it were not
for commercial enterprises, the whole world would be starving.
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You mean grep (Unix is case dependent) and awk (where did you get AUCK from?)
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I would like to publicly apologize to our Anisa Aldoubosh
for playing :
****
Well Anisa I am not sure that I feel the necessary remorse.
You and another Muslim lady ( Hanan Ashrawi ) seems to me to
be some attempt to charm the west into forgetting what you
are really saying.
It is not that we hate muslims but we hate certain things you
are saying every now and then. And it is depressing to ponder the
prospects for peace while those wievs are held by your people.
Not that we are better then you , we have our own prejudices
and vices in the West thank you. But your views are really
depressing . Thus I have fallen in the temptation to tease
and make a little fun instead of ....
and have problems to mobilize the necessary remorse!
Best Regards
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From article <qekN3B4w165w@sys6626.bison.mb.ca>, by baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (baden de bari):
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Pure and Simple, Grant Fuhr is money. He has been awesome in the playoffs,
especially last night. But Mogilny has been scoring well, and his russian
friend Kymlev (sp?) has also done well. But Fuhr is the biggest reason they
are winning, and the difference between this year's team and previous years.
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I suspect the government feels it is enough to prevent companies from
offering secure encryption services. Big companies don't take that
kind of risk. They're too visible and have too much to lose.
The US government may not have to make encryption illegal to prevent its
use. If they could credibly say to IBM or MIT: you will receive no US
government money next year unless you follow these voluntary guidelines on
use of encryption, I doubt either organization would delay making use of
encryption a violation of local policies. The US government gets much of
its power by making it impractical to operate without getting money from the
government while putting restrictions on use of such money that would be
illegal if they were enacted as laws.
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Just a quick comment. As a baptist clergyperson, I find the idea
of such a "baptism" (if the news report is in fact accurate, and
they seldom are regarding religion) offensive. The pastor here seems
to have a most unbaptist view of baptism- one that seems to demand the
ceremony even when comprehension and choice are absent.
We do baptize converts, but no one who has been deceived into hearing
the word is likely to be a convert. If in fact the grace of God might
work in such a situation, there is no harm done in waiting a day or
two.
Baptist believe in regenerate membership. Did this church include these
half-baked (at best) converts into their church fellowship? Or do they
somehow feel there is some validity in dunking them and turning them loose?
This kind of "evangelism" is certainly not baptist, and probably not
very christian, either.
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and so on.
see my response in comp.dcom.modems.....all of your answers are there.
btw, next time, if you must cross-post into other groups, CROSS-POST
instead of posting multiple copies. that way, only one copy of your
article must be transmitted by the network, and only one copy is stored
on people's disks (except in the case of brain-damaged news software).
--jim
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I read that GM wants to keep the Design part of Lotus but lose the car
production. And, I seem to remember, that the main problem with the Elan
was caused by GM's insistence that the Elan be re-designed (significantly)
for the US market which caused major design & production headaches.
Quite true - brain fade on my part.
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sherman@lea.csc.ncsu.edu (Chris Sherman) gripes:
xv's been shareware for about a year ... hadn't you noticed?
I don't have a problem with this. John Bradley has put a *hell*
of a lot of work into xv, and if he feels that it's time to get
some monetary reward from it, that's surely his right.
Had you bothered to consult the distribution terms of the IJG JPEG
code (which are right there in the xv distribution), you would have
observed that we specifically grant permission for use in shareware
and commercial software. Sam Leffler's libtiff copyright also grants
permission for unrestricted use including resale.
"Commercial"? There's a big difference between a polite request
for a voluntary donation and commercial, it's-illegal-to-copy-this-
and-we'll-sic-our-lawyers-on-you software.
I do agree that John's readme file could be a little clearer about
what he means by personal use.
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hello out in networld,
We have a lab of old macs(SEs and Pluses). We don't have enough money
to buy all new machines, so we are considering buying a few superdrives for
our old macs to allow folks with high density disks to use our equipment.
I was wondering what experiences (good or bad) people have had with this sort
of upgrade.
murray
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Are you sure you want to do that? If a win app locks up for some reason,
ctrl-alt-del may be the only way to kill the app and get back to Windows.
Granted it doesn't work all that often but it has come in handy on occasion.
I consider it pretty carefully before I disabled that keystroke. Just a
thought.
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If you read the last couple of books in the series closely (well, #3 and #4
at least), there are at least two points at which the real Question is
implied. Conversations proceed much like:
Zaphod: What *is* the ultimate Question, I wonder?
Arthur (not paying much attention to Zaphod, but needing a random seed for
the Infinite Improbability Drive): Think of a number, any number.
Actually, it may be Marvin who uses this phrase a few times as well, and
everytime it's arranged such that "Think of a number, any number" could be
an answer to someone's question about the Question.
I kind of like it. Very mystifying. It's not even "pick a number" or
"tell me a number", just "think of one".
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Hi fellow auto enthusiasts!
Does anyone have any info on the new 4 valve per cylinder diesels Mercedes
is working on? Any specs on outputs, engine size, will they be direct or
indirect injection?, etc. would be welcome. From what I hear these should
be out late this year, next year??
Thank you in advance for your replies!
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I know this is the wrong newsgroup, but I was wondering if anyone
knows the date(s) of this year's COMDEX convention in Atlanta,GA.
Or has it passed already?? E-mail if possible. Thanks.
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I'm interested in building my own PC. Can anyone recommend a
(UK available) book on the subject, and/or sources for parts?
Alternatively, can anyone recommend a source for a 486DX (33MHz)
PC (again UK available). I've just seen in Computer Weekly that
the March '93 price for these has fallen to sterling 1092 (including
os, monitor, keyboard, delivery and VAT), but I can't find a single
advert that would give me a system at that price.
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Hi there,
Do someone of you have a program for sending a key event
to another window but it MUST appear in that window....
I have used xsendevent.tar package but it does not do that !!!
For example, if I get a program executing:
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#!/bin/sh
read something
....
....
echo $something
....
....
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and if I send the key event "<KeyPress>a,<KeyRelease>a"
to that window then I will get:
something=a
Thanks in advance.
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You guys are correct. The Bricklin was produced in Canada.
The National Museum of Science and Technology here in Ottawa
has one, and sometimes they put it on display. Most of the time,
it stays in storage because the museum doesn't have much room.
It's a big deal for a car to be Canadian and that's why they
have it. If anybody's a fan, they also have a nice green '73
Riviera that looks like it just came out of the showroom.
--
MIKE HARKER
OTTAWA, ONTARIO, CANADA
VOICE: 613-823-6757
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=|>
=|> >I think that's the correct spelling..
=|> > I am looking for any information/supplies that will allow
=|> >do-it-yourselfers to take Krillean Pictures. I'm thinking
=|> >that education suppliers for schools might have a appartus for
=|> >sale, but I don't know any of the companies. Any info is greatly
=|> >appreciated.
=|>
=|> Krillean photography involves taking pictures of minute decapods resident in
=|> the seas surrounding the antarctic. Or pictures taken by them, perhaps.
=|>
=|> Bill from oz
=|>
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=
=Bill,
=No flame intended but you're way, way off base. In simple terms Kirilian
=photography registers the electromagnetical fields around objects, in simple,
=it takes pictures of your aura.
Greg: Flame definitely intended here. Bill was making fun of the misspelling.
Go look up the word "krill." Also, the correct spelling is Kirlian. It
involves taking photographs of corona discharges created by attaching the
subject to a high-voltage source, not of some "aura." It works equally well
with inanimate objects.
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I plan on being in the Toronto area sometime this summer (late June or
early July) and would like to attend a Blue Jay game. I would
appreciate if anyone could give me information on how to obtain
tickets for Blue Jay games. I would prefer to get good seats and I
assume this would require going through some ticket broker and paying
$$$$. Ticket broker info for the Toronto area and/or ticket info
directly through the Blue Jays would be appreciated (I'll bring oxygen
if need be.) My schedule is flexible so any games are candidates
(though I'd prefer to see Texas.)
Thanks in advance.
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The alt.* hierarchie is created for 2 purposes:
1. For groups which do not fit under the comp.* or other 'official'
hierarchies
2. For the fast creation of hot new newsgroups like alt.gulf.war
Because there is no voting process or any other control facilities,
sites are free to decide not to carry (some of) the alt groups.
Therefore, it is (I think) desirable to try to create comp.graphics.
{raytrace, rendering or whatever} and not an alt-group
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<<<
<<<Anybody got Arlen Spectre's address? I want to write to him and thank him
<<<for showing the leadership to demand a Congressional investigation
<<<into the Waco mess.
<<
<<If I had Arlen's address, I would go to his house (Do weasels live
<<in houses or in holes?) and personally tell him what a pathetic idiot
<<he is. Arlen is the personification of the word "jerk". [snip...]
<<
<I'm no fan of Arlen Spectre's, but he did the right thing, and attacking his
<motives in this case is wrong.
Pardon me, here, but I don't trust Spectre's motives here at all. Spectre
was a major part of the Warren Commission, (remember the magic bullet theory?)
and is NOT to be trusted if there's even the tiniest chance the guv'mint may
have done something wrong. If he gets a chance I'm afraid he will satisfy
the public outcry with another whitewash.
<Unfortunately, if some of us get our wish and the BATF is disbanded or folded
<into the FBI, etc., we may end up with a "more efficient" agency than the
<bumbling and competition we have today. Some agents should be fired. Some
<should be prosecuted. But keep them as bumbling as possible -- we retain more
<of our liberties that way.
<
Right on the money here. We should certainly applaud the disbanding of the
BARTF but we must stress the personal responsibility of the goons who set
up the assault on American citizens.
We must NOT count on Spectre, though, to get it done.
RJL
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I am taking a course entitled "Exploring Science Using Internet".
For our final project, we are to find a compendium of Internet resources
dealing with a science-related topic. I chose Astronomy. Anyway, I was
wondering if anyone out there knew of any interesting resources on Internet
that provide information on Astronomy, space, NASA, or anything like that.
THANKS!
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I have the following PC games forsale.
Cyber Empire (VGA 3.5 disks) $15
Prophecy of the Shadow (VGA 3.5)$15
Prince of Persia (VGA 5.25) $15
Gunship 20000 (VGA 3.5) $10
Global Conquest (EGA 5.25) $10
Kings Quest V (VGA 5.25) $10
Kings Quest IV (VGA 5.25) $10
Ancient Art of War at Sea
(EGA 3.5) $10
Mech Warrior (VGA 5.25/3.5) $10
Champions of Krynn (EGA 5.25) $10
Test Drive III (VGA 3.5) $15
Balance of Power (EGA 5.25) $10
Leisure Suit Larry in the
Land of the lounge lizards
(VGA 3.5/5.25) $10
Sentinel World I (EGA 5.25) $10
The Bard's Tale I (EGA 5.25) $10
SkyFox II (EGA 5.25) $10
Bard's Tale II (EGA 5.25) $10
Modem Wars (VGA 5.25) $10
Hillsfar (EGA 5.25) $10
Stunt Track Racer (EGA 5.25) $10
All of the games have original boxes and all instructions, manuals and copy protection devices. Please respond by e-mail to jth@bach.udel.edu
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No. The Always IN-2000, among others requires no drivers for up to 7 SCSI
hard drives. DOS does not have a 2 drive maximum, as I already have 3. All
is done in hardware, there's no software drivers at all.
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Just for the record, read your owner's manual before attempting a push start.
Most manufacturers today do not recommend this (I think the catalytic converter
is the primary reason - unburned gas goes down to it and may ignite when
the converter gets into its operating range).
The best reason for a manual? Because you like to drive one. I find that its
much easier to develop lazy habits in an auto trans car. Remember, pay
attention out there - stupidity behind the wheel has still taken more people
to the morgue than drunk driving. The problem is that we don't revoke peoples
license for stupidity.
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Hi all,
I have available to me a set of Metric wheels (came off a Mustang or T-Bird)
which are wearing nearly-bald Michelin TRX 220-55R390 tires. The only place
I have found these tires is the Tire Rack mailorder place for $121 a pop.
Is there a cheaper source, or another manufacturer of this size tire? Thanks
for any info...please E-Mail responses and I will post a summary if there is
any interest.
JAS
JIM STRUGLIA C465353@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU
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Please research carefully. Just because a fax modem behaves like
a printer on a "local" machine, doesn't guarantee functionality
when a "local" machine has fax software printing to a "remotely
installed" fax card. I tried this with Workgroups and the
fax software didn't like it at all. Could have been WinFAX's
peculiarisms but I don't think so. A lot of special hardware
interaction takes place internally. In my case, a FAX manager
program merely "intercepts" the print job and spools it to
it's own directory, not print manager's spool directory. To
software, it appears the job was "printed". Print Manager
plays NO part in the handling of the actual process.
Pardon me if I've incorrectly assumed this is what you were
up to. A truely network-aware fax-modem will most likely be
required, or a lot of weird setup and tinkering.
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So what's the story here... we're all stuck with the regular
green, red, and off yellow-orange LED's!? What gives!!??
Anybody have a 'scoop' on FAIRLY LOW PRICED >BLUE< LED's???
... just out of curiosity, of course ...
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The Only directory I know of that lists commercial and non-commercial
widgets is the ICS Widget Data book. ICS sells the widgets for various
prices. There are also some public domain widgets in the delivery.
The ICS Widget databook is a subscription kind of thing, where
you pay some nominal fee, get a cd with the widgets and then you
can use the public domain widgets freely, and selectively activate
widgets which you want to purchase the right to use from them.
The nice thing about this is that you can purchase whole sets of widgets
such as those used in dataviews. I dont know there pricing schemes
but It is often better to buy than to redevelop the more complex
widgets, especially if you only one customer to distribute to.
This is the extent that I know about them except that I got their
databook catalog and it looked impressive (lots o' widgets there)
I dont work for ICS or have any widgets being sold by them.
hope this helps you.
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dealy@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov | | that's important,it's knowing
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(st) Stephen Tice
(km) Ken McVay
(st)Seems to me Koresh is yet another messenger that got killed
(st)for the message he carried. (Which says nothing about the
(km)Seems to be, barring evidence to the contrary, that Koresh was simply
(km)another deranged fanatic who thought it neccessary to take a whole bunch of
(km)folks with him, children and all, to satisfy his delusional mania. Jim
(km)Jones, circa 1993.
I think there's plenty of evidence to the contrary - six "rescued"
Davidians consistantly recounted that the Federal tank knocked over a barrel
of propane. These guys haven't exactly been spending time together,
plotting an elaborate and consistent story. It would be contradictory
for Koresh to go for "mass suicide" - remember that Koresh's death was
the opening of the sixth seal - the signal that Armageddon had begun.
His army (the people in the compound) would then fight the powers of
evil and win, ending in the Rapture. The fire wiped out his army. I
read earlier that Koresh was planning to walk out of the compound
and blow himself up with a grenade - that would jibe better with
his teachings.
(st)In the mean time, we sure learned a lot about evil and corruption.
(st)Are you surprised things have gotten that rotten?
(km)Nope - fruitcakes like Koresh have been demonstrating such evil corruption
(km)for centuries.
I'd think you'd be the last one to support gassing people and
burning them to death for their religious beliefs. Corrupt? Evil?
I don't know. We'll never know. And when you start calling people
fruitcakes about their religious beliefs, that's dehumanizing people.
We saw what happened when many Germans started believing that Jews
were subhuman.
In one neat stroke, they destroyed all the evidence that could have
pointed to wrongdoing. And killed all the witnesses, including 12
children whose last view of life was choking and pain, followed by
burning them alive.
I am extremely saddened that this tragedy occurred. I'm furious that
they used my money to do it.
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I have a 486DX-33 ISA pc-compatible (Insight) with an Infotel internal
14.4FAX/14.4data modem with QuickLinkII for Windows. When I first put the
modem in, I pulled a phone out of the jack in another room, and ran a phone
line extension to my surge protector and then my computer. The modem
worked fine. Then I split the line from the jack in the other room, ran
the line into my room into the surge protector and up to my computer. Then
I got a regular phone and plugged that into the phone jack in the modem.
Now when I try to use the modem, QuickLinkII says "No dialtone". The phone
plugged into the back of the computer works fine. I tried unplugging the
phone, but still no dice. Is it that the phone line was split too many
times? (I don't understand how this could be a problem, since the phone
worked fine.) Please note: none of the software or hardware parameters
were changed, only the phone line itself. Is my new modem faulty? What
can I do?
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Yes, but no more than he is worth. :-). Seriously: Jerome is merely
(and grandly) another Christian witness, to be taken for what he can
tell us. He is one in the community of saints. You seem to wish for
a greater polarization and dichotomy between Catholic and Protestant
thought than seems to me, from a historical perspective, to be valid.
To be sure, Rome rejects (some significant aspects of) Protestant
thought just as vehemently as Protestants reject (some significant
aspects of) Roman thought. Other than some peoplw who apparently try
to embody the greatest extreme of this rejection, on either side, there
is not quite so vast a gulf fixed as casual observers seem to assume.
Ecumenical consultations between Rome and the Lutherans, as well as
those between Rome and the Anglican communion (to which I belong) show
very nearly complete convergence on understanding the basic theological
issues -- the sticking points tend to be ecclesiology and church polity.
Thus, for example, as you go on to say:
Many of us do not regard a papal decretal as having any necessary (as
opposed to political) significance. Sometimes it will, sometimes it
won't. You misread me if you think that my communion, at least, "throws
out" the deuterocanonical books. Nor do I think you should overstress
the sense in which the more Reformed may do so.
I seriously suggest you rethink what you are saying here. It verges on,
and could be taken as, anti-Semitic in the worst sense. The "unbelieving"
Jews were, according to what I understand as a Christian, the chosen
people of God, and the recipients of His pre-Incarnational revelation.
I think they have some say in the matter. The Javneh meeting should not
be over-interpreted. A recent magisterial study titled _Mikra_ (I don't
have more citation information on hand, sorry) produced primarily from
the background of Christian (rather than specifically Jewish) scholarship
suggests strongly that the Javneh meeting mostly resolved a lingering
question, where in practice the canon had long been fixed on the basis
of the scrolls that were kept in the Temple, and thereby "made the hands
unclean" when used. The list of "sacred books" that may be drawn up from
Josephus and other pre-Yavneh sources correspond (plus or minus one book,
if I rememeber the chapter correctly) to the current Jewish canon of Tanakh.
All of this is not to "throw out" the deuterocanonicals (what, by the way,
is YOUR position about the books the Greeks accept and Rome does not? :-))
-- just to observe that the issue is complex and simply binary judgment
does not do it justice.
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Note: I am breaking this reply into 2 parts due to length.
I agree that there are no verses that have gone unchallenged by gay rights
activists. But if there are zero verses that "'clearly' address the issues,"
doesn't that mean that there are also no verses that clearly *support* your
case? Are you sure you want to say that there are zero verses that clearly
address the issues?
The story in Genesis 19 tells of the citizens of Sodom demanding an opportunity
to "know" the two men who were Lot's guests; the fact that the Sodomites became
angry when Lot offered them his daughters could be seen as indicating that they
were interested only in homosexual intercourse. Yes, what they wanted was
rape, homosexual rape, and everybody agrees that that is wrong. Some
Christians believe that the homosexual aspect of their desire was just as
sinful as the rape aspect of their desire. The passage does not say what it
was that so offended God, whether it was the homosexuality, or the intended
rape, or both, but I believe that it is only fair to consider all the possible
alternatives in the light of related Scriptures. I do not believe that those
who believe God was offended by both the homosexuality and the rape are trying
to say that homosexuality is itself a form of rape.
You seems to take the view that the *only* sin described in Gen. 19 is in the
fact that the Sodomites wanted to commit rape, and that it is unfair to
"stigmatize" their homosexuality by associating it with the sin of rape. I can
see how you might reach such a conclusion if you started from the conclusion
that there is nothing wrong with homosexuality, but then again we're not
supposed to start from our conclusions because that's circular reasoning. If
God is in fact opposed to homosexual intercourse in general, then the more
probably interpretation is that He was at least as offended by the Sodomites'
blatant homosexuality as He was by their intent to commit rape. Later on I
will document why I believe the Old Testament portrays God as One who despises
*any* homosexual intercourse, even if both partners are consenting adults.
The moderator found my proposal to be circular in that he regarded the church
as the proper authority for determining what *kinds* of marriages would be
legitimate, and thus the church's refusal to recognize "perverted" marriages
was circular reasoning. My questions, however, had nothing to do with the
church ordaining new kinds of marriages, and so his argument was something of a
straw man. In terms of my original question, the precise
definition/translation of "porneia" isn't really important, unless you are
trying to argue that the Bible doesn't really condemn extramarital sex. I'm
not sure the moderator was trying to do that.
In any case, I think both you and the moderator have missed the point here.
When Jesus was asked about divorce, He replied, "Have you not read, that He who
created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, 'For this
cause a man shall leave his father and mother and shall cleave to his wife; and
the two shall become one flesh'? Consequently they are no longer two, but one
flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate." (Mt.
19:4-6). I read here that the sexual union of a man (male) and his wife
(female) is a divinely-ordained union. In other words, the institution of
heterosexual marriage is something ordained and established by God--not by men,
and not by the church, but by God. Men are not supposed to dissolve this
union, in Jesus' words, because it is not something created by men.
This is not circular reasoning, this is just reading God's word. I read in the
Bible that God ordained the union of male and female. I do not read of any
similar divinely-ordained union of two males or two females. Granted, there
have been uninspired men who have ordained "alternative" unions (isn't Caligula
reported to have "married" his horse?), but the only union that Jesus refers to
as "what God has joined together" is the heterosexual union of a man and his
wife.
(Pardon me for mentioning Caligula. I know that's probably inflammatory, and I
should save it for the discussion on bestiality, in part 2 of this post.
Please hold off on passing judgement on me until you have read that section of
my reply.)
Anyway, my original question was not whether we should translate "porneia" in a
way that condemns only a select few kinds of extramarital sex, my question was:
given that heterosexual marriage is the only union described by the Bible as
divinely-ordained, and given a Biblical prohibition against sex outside of
marriage, is homosexual intercourse sinful? Of course, I see now that first we
need to ask whether the Bible really condemns sex outside of marriage. You
seem to be trying to argue that only certain kinds of extramarital sex (and
other sins) are really wrong:
Alternatively, it may be that the definition of such terms as "porneia" and all
the rest was, in Paul's day, what we would call a FAQ; i.e. the Law, as the
"tutor" appointed by God to lead us to Christ, had just spent some sixteen
centuries drumming into the heads of God's people the idea that things like
homosexual intercourse were abominations that deserved punishment by death.
Perhaps Paul didn't go into detail on what "porneia" &c were because after 1600
years he considered the question to have been dealt with already. Perhaps the
reason God's apostles and prophets did not devote a great deal of time defining
a distinct, New Testament sexuality was because He did not intend any
significant changes in the sexuality He had already established by the Law.
I'll discuss the Law and homosexuality in greater detail below, but I just
wanted to point out that the New Testament's failure to develop a detailed new
standard of sexuality is not necessarily evidence that God does not care about
sexual conduct--especially after 1600 years of putting people to death for
practicing homosexuality!
And how do you define an "obsessively driven" mode of sexual behavior? How do
you determine the difference between obsessive sexual behavior and normal sex
drives? Is the desire to have "sinful" sex an obsessively driven mode of
behavior? I think you see that this is circular reasoning: Why is it defined
as sinful? Because it is obsessive. What makes it obsessive? The fact that
the person is driven to seek it even though it's sinful. Or is it obsessive
because it is a desire for that which society condemns? Once again, that's
circular: Why is it defined as obsessive? Because the person wants it even
though society condemns it. Why does society condemn it? Because it is
obsessive.
You seem to be trying to limit the Bible's condemnation of "porneia" to only
"perverted" sex acts, but I don't think you can really define "perverted"
without falling into exactly the same circularity you accuse me of. What,
then, is Paul condemning when he declares that "Fornicators...shall not enter
the kindgom of heaven"?
I think you misunderstood me: I was not trying to make an argument on some
technical definition of "porneia", I was raising the issues of the sinfulness
of extramarital sex and the lack of any Scriptural evidence of a homosexual
counterpart to the divinely-ordained union of heterosexual couples.
Please remember what you just said here for when we discuss bestiality, in part
2.
I am glad you asked. Would you agree that if God condemns homosexual
intercourse even among those who are not under the Law of Moses, then this
would show that God's condemnation of homosexual acts goes beyond the ritual
law? If I can show you from Scripture that God punished the homosexual
behavior of people who were *not* under the Law of Moses, would you agree that
God's definition of homosexual intercourse as an abomination is not limited to
just the ritual law and those who are under the Law?
I've been having a private Email discussion with a 7th Day Adventist on the
subject of the Sabbath, and my main point against a Christian sabbath-keeping
requirement has been that nowhere in Scripture does God command Gentiles to
rest on the sabbath, nor does He ever condemn Gentiles for failing to rest on
the Sabbath. This illustrates the difference between universal requirements
such as "Thou shalt not kill", and requirements that are merely part of the
(temporary, Jews-only) Law of Moses, such as the Sabbath.
The point you are trying to make is that you think the classification of
homosexual intercourse as "an abomination" is *just* a part of the temporary,
Jews-only Law of Moses. I on the other hand believe that it was labelled by
God as an abomination for Gentiles as well as Jews, and that He punished those
guilty of this behavior by death or exile. Here's why:
Back in Genesis 15, God promises to give Abraham all the land that was then in
the possession of "the Amorite"--kinda hard on the Amorite, don't you think?
But in verse 16 we have a clue that this might not be as unjust as it sounds:
it seems God is going to postpone this takeover for quite a while, because "the
iniquity of the Amorite is not yet complete".
Remember, this is all long before there was a ritual law. What then was the
iniquity the Amorite was committing that, when complete, would justify his
being cast out of his own land and/or killed? Go back and look at Lev. 18
again. Verses 1-23 list a variety of sins, including child sacrifice, incest,
homosexuality, and bestiality. Beginning in verse 24, God starts saying, "Do
not defile yourselves by any of these things; for _by_all_these_ _things_ the
nations which I am casting out before you _have_ _become_defiled_. For the
land has become defiled, therefore I have visited its punishment upon it, so
the land has spewed out its inhabitants... For whoever does any of these
abominations, those persons who do so shall be cut off from among their
people."
Notice that God says the Gentile nations (who are *not* under the ritual Law of
Moses) are about to be punished because they have "defiled" themselves and
their land by committing "abominations" that include incest, bestiality, and
homosexuality. Flip ahead two chapters to Lev. 20, and you will find these
same "abominations" listed, and this time God decrees the death penalty on
anyone involved in any of these things, including, specifically, a man "lying
with another man as one lies with a woman" (Lv. 20:13). Their
"bloodguiltiness" was upon them, meaning that in God's eyes, they deserved to
die for having done such things. According to Lev. 18:26-29, even "the alien
[non-Jew] who sojourns among you" was to refrain from these practices, on
penalty of being "cut off [by God?] from among their people."
Under the circumstances, I believe it would be very difficult to support the
claim that in the Old Testament God objected only to the intended rape, and not
the homosexuality, in Sodom. Since God took the trouble to specifically list
sex between two consenting men as one of the reasons for wiping out the
Canaanite nations, (not homosexual rape, mind you, but plain, voluntary gay
sex), I'd say God was not neutral on the subject of homosexual behavior, even
by those who had nothing to do with the Mosaic Covenant.
According to II Tim. 3:16, all Scripture is inspired by God and is profitable
for teaching, reproof, correction, and training in righteousness; thus, I
believe that even though we Gentile Christians are not under the Law, we can
learn from studying it. If a certain action is defined as a sin because it is
a violation of the Law, then it is a sin only for those who are under the Law
(for example, in the case of Sabbath-keeping). Where God reveals that certain
actions are abominations even for those who are not under the Law, then I
conclude that God's objection to the practice is not based on whether or not a
person is under the Law, but on the sinfulness of the act itself. In the case
of homosexuality, homosexual intercourse is defined by God as a defiling
abomination for Gentiles as well as Jews, i.e. for those who are not under the
Law as well as for those who are. Thus, I am not at all trying to say that
Gentile Christians have any obligation to keep any part of the Law, I am simply
saying that God referred to homosexuality as a sin even for those who are not
obligated to keep the Law. If this is so, then I do not think we can appeal to
our exemption from the Law as valid grounds for legitimizing a practice God has
declared a bloodguilty abomination that defiles both Jew and Gentile.
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This is called silver bearing solder. It is used to solder to
devices that have silvered contacts. One application is soldering
to the ceramic terminal strips used in the old Tektronix scopes. These
were notched ceramic strips that were silver plated in the notches.
If you used ordinary solder the molten metal would disolve the silver
off of the ceramic. The silver was quite thin. The 2% is a saturated
solution of silver in tin and lead. Thus, no more silver can be
disolved in the solder solution. Other devices that use silver contacts
are quartz crystals and ultrasonic transducers.
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I had a similar problem with my StyleWriter I (the original!).
Have you tried cleaning the print heads? With the SWII driver, it's
and option in the Print dialog box. Sometimes I had to do it several
times to get the crud out. Yes it wastes ink, but it beats those
white annoying lines.
Another idea is to print a couple of pages with just a big
black box. It can help to get the ink flowing.
Good luck!
Beth Corbo
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I agree, with the exception that I don't preach ignoring our cultures.
In Revelation 2-3, we see that in the first century church, there was one
congregation in each major city. So there was one unified church. Now in
each city, there were people of different cultures. Naturally, they
formed something of a stew, with different members having different
heritages. Nevertheless, they were ONE body. They met together,
sometimes as smaller groups in their homes and sometimes in bigger groups
in places such as the temple courts.
Now in a particular city, then and now, you will find that there is a
common language associated with that region. For instance, in Rome, Latin
was spoken. In the United States today, English is spoken. So it would
make sense that congregations in different cities would speak the common
language and not necessarily Latin.
Naturally, you would expect the lead evangelist to preach in the common
language. In the first century church, there were probably many people
in the congregation who could speak a given tongue to translate the
message for people of foreign ethnic groups. Today, however, you don't
see people speaking in tongues to translate sermons, even in so-called
Pentacostal churches. We do have a modern day equivalent though --
bi-lingual speakers. Now in the unified church of which I am a member -
sometimes called the International Churches of Christ, when we all meet
together on Sundays, there are headphones on people who don't speak
English from which they hear an ongoing translation of the sermon in their
native tongue. Neat idea, huh?
Now, we meet in different size groups in a random sort of way on Sundays,
so sometimes there will be a meeting of only Haitians or of Spanish-
speaking people, for example, who will hear an evangelist preach in their
native language. In addition, we meet in small groups a couple of times
during the week for Bible discussion groups and Devotionals. So someone
who speaks a different language will almost always be with people who also
speak his language (assuming the congregation is large enough) for those
meetings.
As for the people who speak the common language, they can keep in touch
with their culture, if they want, but they will also have equally deep
friendships among their church relationships with people of many various
nationalities.
The action of letting Catholics worship in a native language instead of
Latin? Indeed not! See my second paragraph in response to the second
clipping of your article.
However, if you mean the action of forming denominations based on a
culture, then the purpose of the church has been indeed thwarted.
I'll assume the second possiblility when answering your next clipping.
You have met some needs of people, certainly, by helping them to be proud
of their cultural heritages when most denominations didn't. Yet you have
largely isolated yourselves from having quality "Christian" friendships
outside your nationality (and your denomination).
We shall certainly give people a place to feel comfortable with their
heritage. However, we will do this in a way that does not destroy church
unity, but rather encourages friendships among all disciples.
It sounds like these groups have wonderful intentions, but they are going
about things in the wrong way. And names like the African Methodist
Episcopal Church still make me cringe, although not as much as before.
I understand that there was more racism in the past that caused such
groups to be formed, but now we should try to unite. I know that it's
hard for many people on this newsgroup to imagine there being only one
body of people on earth, but it is quite possible, and I am working to
make it happen. However, what might be a smaller step towards unity,
would be taking the word "African" out of your denomination's name. Then
perhaps someday a long time off, you can also remove the "Methodist
Episcopal" part also, and simply be part of "the Church".
There shall be one church, for the sake of unity, AND it shall be useful
in helping students new to America make the transition in culture,
language, and thought. We shouldn't make a new denomination to try to
solve problems. The whole denominational mindset only causes more
problems, sadly.
Thank you for the invitation. That shows me that you indeed have the
heart to spread the gospel of Jesus as well as take part in your cultural
heritage. Thank you also for responding to my post. I know (all too well)
how they can be very time-consuming.
The whole idea of celebrating your culture is paved with good intentions,
but I still feel that you must restore and preserve unity at the same
time. My own church, the Boston church, has the acapella singing that you
mentioned in your post, yet doesn't limit expression of my Mexican
culture, even though I am in the MIT Campus ministry and not the Spanish
(speaking) Zone. I have made a commitment to God that I will go to the
Sunday services of my church, because I know that my brothers and sisters
here are fully devoted in love for God as his disciples.
I don't believe in tongues, as you may have already picked up on, because
of my understanding of Biblical Christianity. However, I am certainly
willing to visit your congregation provided that it doesn't interfere with
my normal worship. Since you also live in Cambridge, I also extend an
invitation to you to visit our services as often as you like. You can
meet the MIT students at the Student Center (across from 77 Mass. Ave.) at
9AM on Sundays to leave for worship or simply call me after Wednesday
night to find out where the service will be held on a particular day.
My number is 225-7598, but will be 354-1357 in a few weeks from now and
for the rest of the summer. Our service normally last from 10AM to noon,
but occasionally are later or earlier (1-3 times per year).
Definitely!
Let's also strive to grow in obedience to the Lord through being men and
women after God's own heart.
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...
You can find cross reference to almost any IC or discrete semiconductor in
Philips ECG: Semiconductors Master Replacement Guide, ~$10. (Especially
industrial, commercial and entertainment, but not specialised or military.)
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We are having a problem with a Quadra 950 that has stumped a couple of
techs sent to us by the vendor, as well as us :-)
This Quadra is 'stuffed' with 64Mb RAM, 2Mb VRAM and some large disk (400Mb
I think). What happens is that after a certain variable interval of time
the video circuitry 'loses' vertical sync. It is quite apparent that the
Mac CPU is still ok, and the problem really seems to lie with the video
circuitry, since you can still save your documents, quit your aplpications,
even pull down menus etc. (only the display is scrolling lik crazy, so it's
pretty hard to hit menu items ;-)
We had the original logic board replaced twice now, and the same problem
has been occurring on all boards although the inteval between occurrences has
varied. The first board had this problem every about 1hr, more often if the
cache was turned OFF (yes OFF). This is the only symptom that is not
obviously related to the video circuitry (after all the cache is on the CPU
right?). The second board had the problem every about 10 minutes (we did
not keep it, rather we put the original back), the current board we have
has this problem a lot less often (has gone about a week without doing it,
but did it twice within an hour yesterday).
The technicians that have come out to try to figure it out seemed pretty
sharp and tried a number of sensible things (most of which we had
previously tried ourselves anyway). These included:
-swapping the RAM
-swapping the VRAM
-swapping monitors (3 different 13" Apple RGB and 2 16" Apple RGB)
-swapping cables
-disconnecting HD and booting from floppy
-sacrificing various small mammals
Here are some other facts:
-when we put a RasterOps ProColor 32 on the NuBus, the problem is fixed
(it does not occur with the internal video or the ProColor video out)
-the vendor cannot reproduce the problem back in their shop on the boards
that exhibit it in our lab
-Apple is said to be getting a little bit pissed off at shipping us boards
that they cannot find anything wrong with, and getting them shipped back as
faulty according to us.
Here are some speculations:
-I bet that neither Apple nor the vendor has tested these boards with that
much RAM and VRAM on them simultaneaously, which may have something to do
with their finding it hard to reproduce the problem (though we can
reproduce it with just 4Mb of RAM, so this is probably a red herring).
-the vendor's representative blames 'metal in your walls' - claims that our
walls have metal in them which interferes with the Mac's operation. We
have another 950 in the lab which works like a charm (though it's not in
the exact same spot....) Please don't tell me this is probably it, I do
not want to believe it.
-it's probably not poltergeists, since they do not have badges to get past
security at the entrance to our site.
Has anyone any ideas? Please? Please email as well as posting cause I seem
to be spending a lot of time rebooting my mac lately and have a lot less
time available to read news! :-)
Thank you in advance.
Carlo Tiana
NASA Ames Research Center
carlo@vision.arc.nasa.gov
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Hello
I have posted to this newsgroup once before and recieved a
moderately helpful response on a couple of issues. This I appreciated very
much . I would however like to know why it is that ther is simply NO
information out there on some subjects for the relativly novice graphics
programmer. The subjects are
1) How do you access the extra video memory on a video board. I
know somwhere there aresome standard video bios calls that allow you to
dothis. I have 1meg of memory on my board and according to all the books
and info I have read I am only (at maximum) using 256k of it. There is a
way to do this in standard VGA cause I have seen vidoe paging (written in
assembly, which I don't know) written into apps hat use mode 13h. To get
any speed at all you have to do this. How do I do it?
2) The vesa standard. What gives here. I have read most of what
the net has to offer on VESA and as far as coding for VESA goes most of
the advice is cryptic at best. Where do I get public domain info that will
tell me in "mostly plain" english how the vesa calls work.
My biggest gripe is about number 1. I have bought graphics books,
I have asked graphics professors, I have hunted the net through both
gopher, and archie, I ahave asked apps programmers and it is like there is
some lock on this information. Graphics programming books tell alot of
programmiing algorithm information, but they always fall short of telling
you how to really control the video bios. What are all the calls folks, I
know there are people out there that know how to doall tis stuff. Where
are you, and why haven't you written a book yet?
Please help
Thanks in advance
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Looks like Bob Errey's ring really sparkles in that locker room, and everyone
else wants one, too! :-) Correct me if I'm wrong though, (just through
the net, not through e-mail, I don't need 100 rl's in my e-mail!) but wasn't
Boston down 2-0 vs. Buffalo last year?Boston lost 1 and 2 at home and won
3 and 4 in Buffalo. Whoever wins game 3 will advance. Simple as that!!! :-)
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Can some on e give me some stats on Forsrg in the World Championships
If sao mail to ua256@freenet.victoria.bc.ca
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I need help getting my ZX-11 (C3) to behave. I've managed to get
the front suspension to be very happy, but the rear sucks. I can't
do anything with it to make it feel ok. The bike is very stable
through the corners (I think because I have the front just right),
but when the straights get bumpy the rear is torturous. It feels
like it actually amplifies the bumps. And the damping doesn't seem
to do anything in real-life, although you can tell the difference
when the bike isn't moving. I've tried 4-5 cm of sag (from
completeley unloaded), but I don't know which way to go. Has anyone
gotten the rear of this bike comfortable? And if so, what kind of
settings (esp. what sag) did you use. I like to corner, but I also
would like my kidneys to remain intact. This thing makes the new
ZX-7 feel comfy....
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STOP! STOP! STOP! STOP! This argument is getting silly! XV-3.00 now handles
24-bit images without quantizing them. All these arguments are moot, null,
and void. Please stop quibbling about a now obsolete version of the program.
Besides, you can now generate tons of verbiage about the new shareware
licensing it uses instead ...
Mike
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I ran speedometer 3.21's tests (all of them) on my IIsi first with the 64k
cache enabled, then with the cache disabled. I put both runs in this
uuencoded machine record... the numbers favor the cache, mostly for
benchmarks with a lot of memory throughput...
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Let's go to the videotape. Here's exactly what you posted:
So if you weren't saying that the deaths of "bastard children of a sacreligious
zealot" was no big thing (and I know I am not the only one who read it that
way), just what the hell WERE you saying?
So who brainwashed YOU into believing that whatever the government says it
the truth? Or that Koresh was any actual threat to you and the rest of the
US? Haven't you ever stopped to wonder WHY the government raided this farm?
This raid was NOT ABOUT RELIGION, SEX, OR CHILD ABUSE. To the best available
evidence at the moment, this raid, psychological torture, and group death was
about Koresh's failure to PAY A $200 TAX on ONE grenade launcher that he may
or may not even have had! That's why it was the BATF doing the raiding in the
first place.
Do you think a $200 tax evasion justifies an armed assault by the government
with 100 armed men in trailers, orchestrated character assassination, noise
torture, and a holocaust?
Then think before you post.
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Hello,
the subject line says it all: I'm looking for a TGA file viewer for the ATI
Ultra + card. It should support the true color modes, of course.
If someone knows where to find one via FTP, please let me know.
thanx
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