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I eagerly await your response when a SCOTUS opinion fails to match your belief structure, especially if there are State or Federal laws which are overturned in the process.
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I would think that if you can't afford to buy the basic tools off Craig's List, you can't afford the project. And, do these people ride bicycles to-and-from the "library", or do they spend the money to drive? BTW - The guy using the ladder is standing on the top step, an OSHA no no. Who's going to pay his medical bi...
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I do, and it's a constant comfort!
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Lots of people stood firm against Nazis without being racist. Lots of banks are famous without having the monopoly on insuring slaves. You're starting to look like you're defending racism. What's next - your closest friend is black, amirite?
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Thanks Tim. I read/heard..."When I smoked grass for the first time, the first words to come out of my mouth were, what else are they lying to me about?" Cheech Marin
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ODFW: Flotsam crab - Planes spp. The rare pelagic crab In Oregon, there are not many crabs living anywhere but the bottom of the sea or estuary. Flotsam crabs are the exception. Two species are found in Oregon: Planes major (formerly P. cyaneus) and Planes marinus. Both species is known for living on floating debris ...
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Irrelevant subject change to avoid an issue.
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I actually think this is a pretty cool concept for a restaurant, because colonialism actually does produce interesting fusions of food (along with the oppression, genocide, murder, war, cultural erasure, etc.). I wish the proprietor hadn't doubled down when asked to consider that the name and branding were problemati...
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Oh for pete's sake ... a business owner whose company sells tea has to put up with "conflict of interest" on the environment because she sells tea? That has absolutely nothing to do with the topic and no relevance to the discussion. It seems like just gratuitous meanness.
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Every single day, I read the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals Opinions. Almost without fail, there are several cases from the Board of Immigration Appeals where another convicted illegal immigrant's attorney is arguing that his particular client's United States convictions are not serious enough crimes to justify deporti...
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The underlying idea in multiple comments here that Mexico is sending people, as if this were some government action or social policy, is just silly. It's people who cross the border, not national policy. Individuals looking for a better life. Whichever side you're on, at least bring it up a notch to deal with reality.
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Eugene parks should be open and safe for the people 24hrs. :)
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I don't think so. No one has even given it a try 4 hours after your question and 15 hours after it was posted, including the person who posted it.
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And today in Arizona, he is running 4th with 10% against Trump's 47%. 226,000 Trump votes and 48,000 Kasich. And zero Arizona delegates. He's currently tied with Trump in Utah with both getting 15% against Cruz' 69%. That isn't even "Also Ran".
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Last name 'Bates'. Too perfect. I will always refer to him as 'Master'.
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Having been in the military during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and in high school during the Bay of Pigs debacle and watched the USSR go down during the Reagan regime and now the further isolation of Cuba with the loss of Hugo Chavez, I agree that a rapprochement with Cuba is a good idea. The USSR did not go down beca...
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"however, we understand that public safety is a priority for our community and are taking that into account" It's not Our priority, but it is in the Community. Sounds about right. BOHICA. Too bad they had to spend $800,000 per year to keep those ever-so-valuable Lane County Administrators from moving on to better ...
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Check out the name of the business a person of the same name and age living in Oakridge has registered with the Secy of State.
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"Belgium would not have prevented the bombings by taking either candidate’s advice — the blow was delivered from within." By Muslims permitted to re-enter Belgium after many went to Syria and returned. Trump and Cruz recommend keeping them out of the US, not out of Belgium. That will help us avoid "a blow deliver...
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Concur. It doesn't really matter why Trump is succeeding; the GOP has to deal with the fact that he is and either support him or implode. Their favorite alternatives, Bush and Rubio, are gone. Cruz? Kasich? The Republican voters say no. When Cruz couldn't take the South, he was basically done. Today's win in U...
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This project is so awesome! Check out all the tools they already have on their website https://toolboxproject.myturn.com/library/inventory/browse. I also heard that they have hundreds more that they haven't posted yet.
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Equating Bernie support with a "cult" is not going to increase Keillor's syndication as a political commentator. Many fans of OPB and NPR who are also Bernie supporters will not forgive and forget. especially since he is leaving A Prairie Home Companion.
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creepy pedophile...73 years old? they never quit the quest for victims, they are always on the hunt - always looking to exploit a child. I wonder of his record ....how far back it goes. gee, a fella I dated once was the consummate actor and a pedophile. when enough red flags went up, I hi tailed it to the courth...
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Finish to previous post- thank you civil.****if that guy was that age and still on the look out for an easy target... he had a prescription for everyday Cialis - I think as a pedophile who has spent at least 20 - 25 years of adult like in prison - he should be the last person to get this pill. my point is pedophiles ...
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Got two. Hoop de doo!
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Easy to write a column outlining the problems. Really difficult to suggest a solution. America has always been a country of "cults", and impossible diversity divisions. Thus we Democrats have "super delegates" designed to ignore the will of the "unwashed", and the Republicans have Trump to weld together FUD lovers...
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Re: real fake names. It appears your policy for printing online posts in the Sunday paper is to only print comments by people who use their real names (and I agree.) Last Sunday you printed a comment attributed to Gladys Kravitz. An extremely popular 60's program "Bewitched" featured a nosy neighbor by the same name a...
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As Pete sang, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XEnTxlBuGo, sides do need to be taken. America has been stolen, and its riches are locked away offshore in Chinese and Mexican and Vietnamese banks, and in the greedy hands of a small number of American superrich. We have been divided and conquered and this election show...
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When one takes away guns, there are bombs. Those who would strip Americans of the right be bear arms will face even more deadly carnage when the psychos resort to explosive force.
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I suspect that the dude went to the park to sleep it off. I suspect that if he were left alone he would have done that. Being abruptly awakened in a stupor, he likely reacted with incomprehension of what was happening and likely feared for his life. Were it necessary to ensure that he remained immobilized, productiv...
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We have here a story with a minimum of information and yet posters project their own world views on the situation to determine that the "the cost effective route to keeping society safe from these creeps is execution.. tough love." So we see that with almost no information we are willing to consign an individual to de...
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Same old, same old. The endless cycle. We will now try to kill as many of them as we can. They will then try to kill as many as they can. Someday, the psychos will get their hands on a nuke and if the cycle has not been broken by then, there will be a very sad day.
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Interesting, Kristof has transformed a serious health problem into a gender discrimination issue. While he avoided the topic completely in his expose, it is likely that men and women and children all suffer from poor health care in some third world areas. So instead of pleading for attention to improving third world ...
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Obama's visit to Cuba made the US look strong not weak. The strong can take those steps that are in their own best interest without caring about "image." The weak must act the way others want them too. Obama demonstrated strength and wisdom in putting a stop to a pointless exclusion. The cubans have a right to figu...
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As a former colonial subject (actually doubly colonial -- Indian origin, grew up in East Africa), I'm intrigued by this restaurant and will gladly visit it the next time I am in town. It's clear to me that Ms. Krantz wishes to celebrate the food and not the politics of colonial power. If one feels the strong need to pr...
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There needs to be a moratorium on all immigration from certain areas in the Middle East and Africa. Seems like a no-brainer, but it will never happen if we all sit back and allow the screeching left to dictate our policies.
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There needs to be a moratorium on all immigration from certain areas in the Middle East and Africa. Seems like a no-brainer, but it will never happen if we all sit back and allow the screeching left to dictate our policies.
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So Bernie and Trump are out. Can we guess that Garrison is a Hillary supporter?
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I like NYC.
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Thank you.
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So basically, the majority of liberal commenters that post on this liberal leaning news site will decide who, and what is posted according to their political preference..... WOW! What a great idea... And a great way to limit the opinion of opposing political views... And right before the Elections !
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Groovy.
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I hope this new change does not end up making the comments section a safe space.
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Very interesting Duke article: http://www.straighthoops.com/articles_9.html
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About time
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I would think that if you can’t afford to buy the basic tools off Craig’s List, you can’t afford the project. And, do these people ride bicycles to-and-from the “library”, or do they spend the money to drive? BTW - The guy using the ladder is standing on the top step, an OSHA no no. Who’s going to pay his medical bill...
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I suspect that the dude went to the park to sleep it off..... Perfect, he drove to the park drunk. Quietly place blocks and blow out strips behind his vehicle? Then what? Come back and check on him hourly to see if the mouse is in the trap?
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Thank you and let's make this a factual discussion page
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Props for trying something different. I hope this works.
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Sounds like an interesting concept, but I, too, am concerned that thoughtful dissent on any issue not be eliminated by the ADN community.
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I hope this refreshing concept works out.
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But how will I tell people about an exciting way to make $75 an hour working from home?
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ADN is going to leave it up to people like Sue Cassens, Cate Arriola and Roy Anthony to decide what's civil and what comments get posted..... Alaska Democrat News.
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Interesting. Spam be gone!
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Kyle, Aja from Civil here; we've put a lot of work in to the behind-the-scenes algorithms to ensure this won't create an "echo chamber" of political/etc views. On the Register-Guard, for example, we're seeing disagreements and debates every bit as spirited as before they switched to Civil Comments... but without the p...
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Interesting. “We're big supporters of free speech and honest debate". I think I have heard that somewhere before, perhaps it was just something associated with "being the most transparent administration ever". I may be mistaken but it certainly does sound very "progressive". Considering where the developer of the n...
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The goal is "civil", but not "sanitized".
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Are you able to talk a little about how an algorithm can prevent an echo chamber? I am curious from a technical perspective of what can and cannot be done, and what you are describing goes far beyond a filter of some sort.
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You forgot desa jacobsen
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Hi Judith, Christa from Civil here. This is a common concern when people first hear about our system! But we’ve built our it to facilitate real, spirited debate, and to avoid echo chambers. We designed the user-facing side of the application to encourage fairness, and the algorithms on the backend to prevent the kind ...
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Why not make it look like a tree?
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Its called being open minded.
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That was the whole point of ADN going to this commenting system.... Elections are right around the corner ..... Can't have opposing dialogue during election season.
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Six sergeants and 21 patrol deputies? Is that three and one half underlings per supervisor?
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Name, the algorithms look for patterns of abuse in the ratings, and assign comments for review accordingly.
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Glad to see comments receiving some attention. Reminds me of the classic xkcd: xkcd.com/810/ "What will you do when spammers train their bots to make constructive comments?"
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What Jonah doesn't understand is that most Republicans WANT their party wrecked because they're sick of the BS. Not so with Democrats, they still love the BS.
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Kyle, the opposing dialogue isn't going anywhere. :)
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Is there some way to see which comments were eliminated for lack of civility so readers can have some assurance that sharp criticism is not elimenated in the search for civility? The ADN editorial board is a very liberal dominated group not known for diversity of opinion.
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I have this comic hanging at my desk. :)
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But lets' not totally exclude acceptance of humor, dashes of hyperbole, pinches of sarcasm, identification of commenters conflicts of interest and inconsistencies, or Mark-aTwainsian withering retorts! Peer reviewed comment pages aren't peer-reviewed journals - They should still be, at their best, educational, stimu...
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Hi Kyle, Christa from Civil here. When people first hear about this system, many assume we haven't thought of this! We want real opinions, even angry words—so long as those angry words are about *ideas*, *events*, and *actions*. Name-calling and abuse don't further discussion; what we're trying to do is keep the debate...
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I firmly agree with Kyle Craig below. Conservatives are finally starting to speak up and countering many articles written with obvious bias. I believe the editors of this news site are getting frustrated with it. All you have to do is look at the owner of this paper. I What are they doing? Well they are implementin...
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Excellent point. Civil comments...a Portland company...a city not known for tolerating conservatives
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And Kate Brown was willing to accept a bunch of Syrian refuges without vetting them. Instead of being the land of the free, we'd be the land of the bombings.
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Hey! Oreo eating man. Have a look at this: http://www.corp-research.org/nestle
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The first comment I posted had me reviewing two posts that seemed to have nothing to do with the ADN site. Are we reviewing posts across the posts served by Civil Comments, at which point eventually the posts will be reviewed by a nationwide group of people hopefully reducing bias?
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And how many police cars carry blocks and blow out strips in their trunks? They attempted to 'block' him with police cars and “Fisher then allegedly accelerated toward an officer’s vehicle, drove off the roadway and around the officer, and then, before returning to the street, accelerated in reverse and crashed into t...
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The constitution and it's amendments control what the government can or can't do; it doesn't control anything outside of government activity.
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So, I won't be making $ 97.35 an hour from home?
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Not entirely true. The constitution prevents one person from stifling another's free speech. Can't ignore civil rights.
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Pete, the site administrators can see rejected comments, but for now, users can't. It'd be an interesting idea to have a "click here to see rejected comments" button. But, since the stuff that gets rejected is typically name-calling, threats, and spam, I don't think it'd add much to the page. It's a common concern tha...
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Interesting that you'd judge the system based solely on the city it was developed in and your assumptions regarding the political slant of the developers. Why not assess the system on its own merits rather than through your political lens?
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If by liberal you mean reality-centered and- fact-based reviewers can scuttle irrelevant ideological potshots, this should be a GREAT improvement!!
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I wonder how 20-minute neighborhoods are possible when the working stiff must travel outside the city limits to make a family living wage. Workers certainly will not be walking or riding transit to, say, Coburg. Yes, we are a crossroad. If Eugene doesn't have a good living wage job market, Envision Eugene will fail ...
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This is good news. People voted to increase funding for public safety and now we have 24 hour coverage.
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I want to applaud ADN for taking these measures rather than just shutting down comments like many other newspapers have. I often learn more from the comments than the actual articles.
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I sure hope this works. I was very disappointed when, on a story about someone who was kidnapped and missing, the comments section was full of victim blaming and family shaming rather than sympathy. To anyone concerned about "free speech": the constitution and it's amendments control what government can or can't do; ...
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Yes, it is 3.5 "underlings" per supervisor. What do you think is appropriate staffing level for this kind of "industry"? What else do you think those sergeants do as their regular duties?
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That was tried in Oregon for about 70 years under the State of Oregon Eugenics program so popular with the founder of Planned Parenthood and in Germany during the early part of last century. Involuntary sterilization. Used on "wayward boys and girls, as well as criminals. Dr. Kitzhaber finally got rid of it while ...
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This should be interesting, I'm still not convinced by the "peer review" though that it will improve civility...
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With respect, the Constitution prevents the government from stifling free speech. It does not prevent private property holders from preventing a type of speech on private land. If you want to post a yard sign on my land expressing views that I disagree with, I'll take it down with no Constitutional repercussions. If...
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Technical hitch - I can't get the entire "Review Comments" block high enough on my screen to see the buttons for making choices at the bottom.
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This is great news. Can't understand why it does not get more comments noting the improvement. I understand that at the beginning of the Great Recession, county unemployment rate was 12%. Thanks to Obama, who has a 50% approval rating (Congress has a 13% approval rating), many programs are paying off. For some reason ...
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Ha ha ha ha ha, very well put!
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The first words of the first amendment are "Congress shall..." Individuals stifle free speech regularly. There are no lawsuits stemming from it. Why not? Every company I've ever worked for has rules about what I can and cannot talk about. If the freedom of speech is something individuals aren't allowed to abridge, t...
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I was involved in a debate where a guy posted my home address-- I wondered if he wanted to give other folks information perhaps so someone could come by and throw a rock through my window. There was absolutely no reason to post my home address and it was pretty scary. How would Civil Comments have handled that posting?...
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iLike ~ !
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:>)
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Yeah, I can't scroll that screen either. So far it hasn't actually prevented me from getting to the buttons, but all the comments I've reviewed have been fairly short...
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