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And unlike Oregon Humane Society, Multnomah County Animal Services cannot refuse to take in an animal - whether they are, for instance, sick or not placeable. I adopted a cat from MCAS in 2014, to the cost of $2,500 of vet bills (well worth it). That cat would have otherwise been euthanized.
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i'd like to commend the sheriff in montana for having a set..of strong motivators
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christa_m, I'm glad to see your engagement here as ADN readers come to grips with this new way of doing things. I'm already checking Civil Comments' website for the case studies from the two newspapers that have already been using your system, & also press coverage about Civil Comments. I'm hopeful. Kudos to your compa...
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Don't worry, Amarcus! I'm still here to refute most of your statements. ;)
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Just because we have home grown terrorists doesn't mean we have to invite ones from France, Brussels, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya or Afghanistan. Or invite anyone until we check to make sure who we are inviting. Unlike Hispanics, who have an inalienable right to enter our country no matter what the rules say, possibl...
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Was she asked to do a breathalyzer test?
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What standard is Paul Jenkins held to?
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This isn't classic censorship--we are free to express ourselves. Civility in a public forum isn't too much to ask, is it? Ideas aren't being censored; basic civil discourse is being encouraged. I'm sure there is a right to appeal. I appreciate keeping my Facebook page private. Will ADN make chatting with its repor...
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Thank you; I could not have stated it better. I've seen her out driving many times and have gotten out of the way a couple times. (In my car!) "Notorious hypocrite"---yes.
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Oh, and since the prosecutor is Pink Floyd, what was that about conflict of interest?
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This is the same Homeland Security who let the San Bernadino murderers (including a foreign national) in, correct? Now that's naivete! "It was only two people", but they sure knew how to kill!
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"She maintains that the response to Saffron Colonial is unfair." I agree. Good luck with trying to change misguided perceptions of what you are trying to do.
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Could we have a city ordnance where parking spot rentals and apartment rentals re separated? There are plenty of buildings with parking, where not every tenant uses their spot - perhaps they'd appreciate $100+ a month being knocked off their rent, and maybe someone else would like a second spot? Then, landlords and pro...
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Sometimes I agree with Sue and Cate. Many times I don't. Regardless, I welcome the debate. Because I'm not beholden to any party, I enjoy discussing each and every issue. For instance, I think the comments sections of news sites in Alaska helped save the careers of Anchorage politicians regarding the marijuana issu...
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it is nice to be back. thanks for ditching the excrementous facebook requirement.
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Perhaps she was driving in her sleep because I have noticed over the years she takes a lot of naps during the regular City Council meetings.
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Thanks christa; If that happens again I'll be sure to flag the comment.
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There's no reason they need to over-sell permits other than they don't want to deal with actually charging a market price. Charge 70 a month for permits, restrict the number to a % of the available supply. You'll see spaces on the street and probably a reasonable amount built in the apartments without some arbitrary ...
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We can agree to disagree, Jon, without shouting and personal attacks, I'd hope. I'm not an apologist -- MCAS has big issues to improve on, absolutely, and there are those in the community (myself included) that hold them responsible for making progress on the issues that they're facing. At the same time, credit is due ...
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Four articles in what, five days now? Taking this one a little personal?
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there's no telling here who is right or not but....ouch!. the truth being betty is 90.. age happens - it's not a fault. it just may time for her to give up driving. it's got to be one of the hardest things to do...somewhat a loss of independence. ..tho somehow, I don't think betty would have any problems getting ...
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I agree. Hearing another point of view can be beneficial especially if it doesn't come with a negative personal characterization.
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You already have one. Just roll down the window and stick your head out.
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Will we be notified if there is a response to our comment?
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TPII: W was a disaster and President Obama has spent much of his energy and political capital addressing and correcting the damage he "inherited." Trump is such an extreme example that it's hard to even imagine that voters could knowingly subject our nation to a Trump Presidency. Yes, even after seeing W's first ter...
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$70 seems a bit high but not sure what monthly downtown rates are lately. You can be sure with Goodman's development plans for his parking structures that it will put even more pressure on this situation.
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Parking in the Fox Tower is $250/month. Parking in Indigo 12West is $190/month. Parking in the new apartments at 45th and SE Belmont will be $70/month. Parking next year int he Central Eastside will be $140/year, then $210/yr, and by 2018 it will be $300/yr or $25/month. True, $70 is a tough hill to climb, but we ...
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"If I was racist I wouldn't live in the neighborhood." This is worse than claiming to not be racist because you have friends of a different ethnicity. This is claiming she's not racist because she tolerates conducting business around other people who aren't white.
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Maybe he is from Eugene and just wants to give a shout out to everyone passing by in Seattle who knows?
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Crowdsourcing moderation has gone both impressively right and impressively wrong. For both examples, check out reddit. The success or failure of such community self-moderation always seems to rest on the honesty of the community. I'll be interested to see how this experiment turns out in the ADN commentator communi...
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They should have tied a pack of camels to a squirrel and sent em up. Thats obviously the problem. This guy is mentally just fine
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I guess we will see how it works. From the tone, it sounds like creating a safe zone where feeling won't be hurt by opinions that are too diverse. The left has been squeezing speech for some time in the university- hope this is not the case here and the comments section become a left wing echo chamber.- Time will tell...
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Well, we are following up on a story we are reporting. So, that's our job.
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Pilot: At times I agree with you.....I'll try not to do it too often. Yesterday....driving south where River Road becomes Chambers. Planned to turn right and enter the NWExpressway. Light was red. Had right-turn signal on. Stopped at red light and prepared to turn right. Looked in right side mirror. Here comes...
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Steven, this is a great point! While I hope that everyone gives each other a chance, there'll inevitably be people who'd prefer not to hear from each other. We are still hashing this out in our product development meetings, but here's a run-down of the way it exists now: You can follow commenters, and they can follow ...
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Thanks, that's helpful. It's useful to differentiate between "quality" and "civility." To me, "uncivil" is low quality from the get-go (even if I might agree with a namecaller otherwise). I can think of a lot of different ways people might rate "quality": for instance, whether a post is "liberal" or "conservative" or ...
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No normal, well-adjusted person has resentment toward bicyclists or pedestrians, so there's nothing to increase. Your plans to install and presumably use an air horn might engender some resentment from those you target, however. Are you planning on injuring a cyclist or pedestrian with your car? If not, how does this...
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By default, yes, you will (via email, for now, but eventually within the "Activity" view). And if you'd prefer not to receive these updates, you can edit your email preferences here: https://app.civilcomments.com/accounts/my/edit
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So we can't call our overpaid legislatures and senate members and their staff members who do not do their job, losers
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If she can afford an attorney to defend her on a $260 traffic ticket, she can afford a cab ride once in a while. Or maybe she should try Uber.
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As a Eugene City Council member, she has been a stong advocate for LTD. She has 'talked the talk'; now she should 'walk the walk'. I see all those little cream colored buses picking up the elderly all over Eugene-Springfield. If it's good enough for the citizens, it should be good enough for those demanding the l...
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Maybe the new system will starve the trolls? There are a couple regulars who seem to make outrageous posts just for attention. I don't mind divergent opinions, but the people who use the forum to name call add nothing of value.
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I like comments that are thoughtful & informative. I also like comments that are entertaining. But I'm not entertained by people flaming each other. There are better ways to be witty than by calling each other names, which is what comments here all to often were devolving to.
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You're stupid and this safe zone idea of yours is idiotic...............this has been a test of the "Time will Tell" theory system. If the test is successful this message will be erased :)
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I like the "mute" idea that allows you to opt-in to read a person you've muted.
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It appears that free speech is sustaining another wound. It has been ruled by the courts that the more offensive the free speech, the more important that it be protected. I am suspicious of this new system of peer review. Few people would give an opponent that they disagree with vehemently a good rating. It would be l...
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This seems like a good idea, if you're part of the "in crowd". How many times have I seen someone called a "hater" because they express a contrary opinion? What if the majority agree you're a horrible person because your opinion is divergent? Then you're not being "civil" and the majority can essentially vote your...
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Apparently he isn't proud of it enough to even mention her name.
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I don't use facebook as I find it to be a waste of my time and rarely interesting, so I'm thankful for this change. I can appreciate the concerns that many have regarding echo chamber/purging of conservative viewpoints, though I'll reserve judgment for a while to see how it goes. I suspect there will still be plenty of...
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It appears that free speech is sustaining another wound. It has been ruled by the courts that the more offensive the free speech, the more important that it be protected. I am suspicious of this new system of peer review. Few people would give an opponent that they disagree with vehemently a good rating. It would be l...
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WW, this is beginning to feel like a hit job against this business. For a publication whose name is derived from a Clackamas/Chinook word, I'd think you'd be more lenient in this case.
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My own rating of that comment would be "quality of post: poor" on the grounds because all it does is to express a political sentiment that I have previously investigated, & believe to be based on poor information. It would be a better quality post if you could back up your sentiment with factual information that might ...
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I have resentment towards the arrogant, no matter what their mode of transportation. There exists a sub-set of bicyclists and a different sub-set of pedestrians who are arrogant in their travels near automobiles. on sidewalks, in or out of bike lanes, going with the flow of traffic or against it and changing all of t...
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Taking down businesses seems to be a WW theme actually. The Jiffy Mart hit piece was run twice in a 4mo span.
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"Few people would give an opponent that they disagree with vehemently a good rating." That's what we thought, too! That's why we put so much thought and effort into designing the backend algorithms that analyze the reviews, to keep them fair and prevent bias. One of the most remarkable findings, to me, has been how ra...
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I am hopeful this will be a positive change.
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Only issue I had with the old system was the spam. Lots of idiots that post. You don't like it, just don't read them. Pretty easy. Will see how this goes.
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Sounds great! I hope it works out. BTW this is my test comment to see how this works.
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I'm in.
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"If I was racist I wouldn't live in the neighborhood." Ha. That's exactly the kind of logic that Kristina Wong disproves here. Brought to you by the makers of "my best friend is Black" and "I treat my housekeeper like family"! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6hD7XFW0is
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I see the user guide above, but does Civil offer any advice on what should be flagged? I see three options in Flag: "abuse/harassment, spam or threat to self or others". Those last two are fairly clear, but I can imagine disagreement on the first. I'd be interested in which of the comments below rises to abuse/harassme...
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Keeping Facebook based comments from older stories? From yesterday and further back all comments have been removed. When can I expect to see them again?
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Of course I have no such plans, and you talk about engendering resentment. Sometimes riders and pedestrians ignore what's around them, because of detractions (ear buds, texting, iPhone, etc), and simply not paying attention. If I approach one of them from behind, I want to make certain they are aware I am about to tr...
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Although anyone familiar with what N. Williams has become is aware that there are fewer and fewer minority-owned businesses there, as a percentage of the whole.
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Craig, I see you don't have a problem with rural village bias, "...village residents will collect a government welfare check from the day they are born, until the day they die..." We know you're talking into a hole in the ground especially when you can't back your assumption with statistical facts. Yes, there are so...
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I too am really disappointed — sickened, really — when people blame & shame victims and families, or speculate insensitively about the reasons behind suicides, based usually on lurid imaginations but very sparse facts. I don't know that this system will stop those kinds of comments altogether; but it might reduce thei...
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Umm...they're sequoia cones, not pine cones.
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To be fair, he could have had a bag of pine cones with him when he climbed up the tree.
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Hales isn't running for re-election.
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Terrible, Free Speach killed by an algorithm....... "We don't have enough staff to monitor comments" Hmmmmmm, then hire some workers!
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Oh, and since the prosecutor is Prozanski, what was that about conflict of interest?
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If parking was required then the building wouldn't have been converted and you just lost 5 extra units in a market that needs more units. Prices will go up.
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Your new comment section is un-American it is anti-free speech it is disturbing that the corporation like you can censor our speech with a computer algorithm.
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Market rates? In Portland?
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I'm not really sure how it is that you're equating the idea of "civility" as being "progressive" as opposed to "conservative." I've seen plenty of uncivil discourse from progressive/liberal people, just as much as from conservative people. I don't care what political ideology one believes in: namecalling is ugly & coun...
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Yep, that's why Vision Zero must advocate more than just traffic enforcement and speed reductions as a solution to car/bike/pedestrian accidents. Biker rules should be clearly specified in the resolution, something BEST has refused to do. BEST wants to blame all accidents on car drivers.
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Does the new system work?
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We'll give it a try. I don't like additional layers of bureaucracy but the quality of comments does tend to drift to the lowest common denominator. Now, if some of the regular "columnists" for the ADN would clean up their act or at least do a bit of research before their next rant against a) Republicans, b) Big Oil, ...
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No normal, well-adjusted person on a bike or on foot loosens his or her grip on common sense when in close proximity of 3,000-plus-pound moving objects, either. Be accountable, take responsibility, practice patience. Yield the right of way with a friendly wave to a driver and most times you'll get an appreciative wave ...
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Well any system that removes Facebook from the process is a step in the right direction. The true test will be articles about car wrecks due to ice, Sarah Palin and oil company taxes. We shall see
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How about alternative F: "I think this is a bad idea, and here's why."
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Great article on South America. I guided there years ago. I still miss it. http://stillwaterflyshop.com/
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BS. Your initial hit piece was the genesis of much of this. Plus, it is generating a lot of clicks here and facebook. Seems like you guys might of had a few too many of those artisanal Irish Car Bombs you like to drink, and your integrity has gone out the window.
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Driving up the cost of housing to make your car ownership more convenient doesn't prevent you from owning a car. It just makes it a little less likely you can store it for free in really convenient locations thanks to renter subsidies and government largesse. If you want to own a car, and you want your car storage to...
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No longer American made? Another Donald Drumpf quote blindly repeated. Oreos are not only American made, a significant number of them are made right here in Portland! Snopes that shit.
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I agree that F is a more substantive comment that contributes to the overall conversation, but my question is which of these comments rises to the level of abuse.
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Hoping this new system is effective. We can learn so much from each other in real conversation.
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Harbor Freight has a 12-volt dual horn that produces 135 decibels for $14.99. 135 dB is 'louder than a gunshot' but there is no 'nausea' until 141 dB and you have to get to 144 dB before vision is blurred due to eyeball vibration. A 152 dB three horn air horn (152dB Vibration is painful and felt in joints; 153dB Th...
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As a retired Police Lieutenant from another jurisdiction, it seems like 3 Sergeants and 24 Deputies is a better number to ensure a "safe community!" Currently over supervision in my estimation!
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It really is the only consumer purchase people make and then feel entitled to demand free storage provided by the government.
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Wait, do you mean the article about the guy who sold meth pipes, which we recently re-shared on Facebook?
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I can't speak for how other people do it, but I don't base my ratings on someone's comment on whether or not I disagree with them (whether vehemently or not), but on whether they express their opinions (1) civilly, without namecalling, ad hominem attacks, or other abuse; (2) thoughtfully, with accurate reporting of wha...
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Rolf L. Bilet - Apologizing, in the tradition of the likes of Abe Lincoln and Ronald Reagan to name just a couple of Republican presidents, shouldn't get your dander up Mr. Bilet. Try reading America's relatively short history and you'll see that America has many folks to apologize to. It's the opposite of pretending t...
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So far so good I think! One thing about Facebook is that it had a pretty good notification system. Will Civil Comments have such? Perhaps through Facebook itself if we were to log in through them? Or perhaps through a smart phone app? I'm sure there will be refinements over time since your system is still in developmen...
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Our original piece was pointing out what people on Twitter had already noted: the name is basically the definition of "problematic." People are clearly interested in the story and the various developments around it, as evidenced by the fact they keep reading about it and some, even commenting.
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Yes, but he is figuring out a way to "monetize" his term as Mayor. Look for him to get money from developers as a consultant.
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And on a semi-related topic OPB has this story "Portland's Proposed Rapid Bus Actually Slower Than Existing Bus" http://www.opb.org/news/article/portland-rapid-bus-transit-how-fast-slow/ Perhaps LTD and the city council should read this. Or maybe even the RG.
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Great comeback
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Yes, jolly good show.
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Is this the end of us being able to edit our posts?
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