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17,354,411 | 17,354,411 | pavelludiq:The whole concept of liberalism is based on the assumption that governments are extremely dangerous and potentially evil and in need of constant control by both the public and it's own institutions. Even if it appears that a specific government or institution is doing good work, it is extremely dangerous to accept that as anything other than a temporary and potentially deceiving state of affairs.<p>Constant distrust and suspicion of power is crucial to a free and prosperous society. Politicians, officials and even private executives should never receive praise from the public, if they are doing good work the public should just shrug and say to themselves "yeah, ok, you're not horrible right now". Governments are never good, at best they are not actively harmful.
jabgrabdthrow: Being poor (I would say "weak" but I really mean "not powerful") is the <i>causation</i> behind "doing good". Derp
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17,354,414 | 17,354,414 | paulie_a:Does anyone know of a way to simply fake location data? I genuinely don't care if it is technically illegal. Data collection has jumped the shark at this point
robk: To anonymize at least buy a burner Sim and run a voip client on your handset over 4g
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17,354,415 | 17,354,415 | peterwwillis:Who is this "they" you speak of? The citizens elected to govern? Or a shadowy cabal of unknown entities working in secret toward some ominous cause that ends in you being forced to do everything you don't want to do?<p>Honestly, follow any "we're all screwed our government sucks" logic train to its conclusion and you hit one of two conclusions: A) oh shit, it's actually my fault along with everyone else's that we're in this mess, B) conspiracy theory.<p>We do actually live in a representative democracy with checks and balances, and we do actually have the power to fix it if we choose to. We have a much better chance of changing things without resorting to violence than a pretty sizeable part of the planet.
anoncoward111: "They" refers to anyone who is quite rich and or powerful, and actively uses those resources against others.<p>So when you start to wonder, "hmm, I wonder why housing is so expensive relative to my income", or, "hmm, I wonder why that policeman gave me a $400 ticket for 'speeding'", or, "hmm, I wonder why those federal agents are killing children in Waco", or, "hmm, I wonder why no bankers went to jail for fraudulent mortgage practices in 2008"...<p>... I mean, if you ask yourself these questions, and you tell me that these things are happening because we elected people to do these things, then I don't precisely know where you got that notion.
peterwwillis: Uh, no, I'm not suggesting we elect people to make bad things happen. I'm saying we elect people to make bad things illegal. | [
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17,354,416 | 17,354,416 | ariwilson:The comments here are more interesting than the article itself. Looks like the real issue was a UX snafu on YouTube's part that support had trouble resolving for too long. Let's hope YouTube does better in the future.<p>However, if you read the comments here, they paint a sinister portrait of YouTube that has nothing to do with Blender's issue. Some examples:<p>- ads are required for big channels (false)<p>- demonetization of content creators (unrelated)<p>- anti-trust based on search or social networking (unrelated)<p>- SketchUp is blocking YouTube videos (false)<p>We might as well change Hacker News from an article based format to a topic based format if everyone is just going to bring in their unrelated and false pet peeves to every discussion.
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17,354,417 | 17,354,417 | downandout:Are misdemeanors not crimes? The term misdemeanor simply means that it is a crime punishable by up to 364 days in prison. Further, illegal <i>reentry</i> is a felony, and in many of these cases, it’s reentry.
maxerickson: Nothing in my comment prompts your question, I don't even come close to denying that misdemeanors are crimes.<p>My point is that bloviating about law and order when the crime is minor and the danger (in many cases) is real, is pathetic. It'd be less pathetic to make it clear that you think that babies should be taken away from mothers that have merely crossed the border away from an official port of entry.
downandout: <i>It'd be less pathetic to make it clear that you think that babies should be taken away from mothers that have merely crossed the border away from an official port of entry.</i><p>When did I say that? I just think that mothers shouldn’t be bringing their babies to illegally enter the country in the first place. | [
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17,354,418 | 17,354,418 | cr1895:It's not legalized in the Netherlands. It's not criminalized due to an official stance of tolerance.<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gedogen" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gedogen</a><p>It's complicated, and there's a lot of nuance to the Dutch model, but it is distinctly different from what you have now in Canada and in numerous US states.
TheArcane: That wiki link has a great example:<p>"To give an example in layman's terms: a mother may tell her child he can't have cookies from the cookie jar. The father, regardless of his beliefs, can't tell the child it's okay to have a cookie as that would result in a conflict with the mother. If the father sees the child taking a cookie anyway, he may choose not to say anything. He may not want to punish or stop the child but can't condone the behaviour either. The father may act as if nothing had happened to avoid a conflict with both his beliefs and the mother. He "gedoogs" the behaviour."
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17,354,419 | 17,354,419 | compcoffee:There was an defect, they tried to fix it, fix was approved by a regulatory body, it didn't work, so they recalled the cars.<p>Hanlon's razor: what is the story here that puts it on the front page?
nasmorn: That German regulators are so thoroughly captured by industry that they approve a zip tie for a safety critical fix and apparently didn’t order them to do crash testing again
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d0m: Damn, I failed the last one.. thinking it would only have been a pointer further.
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17,354,421 | 17,354,421 | taspeotis:Microsoft’s VSTS is getting a facelift [1] so watch that space to see what GitHub might end up looking like.<p>[1] <a href="https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/devops/2018/06/19/new-navigation/" rel="nofollow">https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/devops/2018/06/19/new-navig...</a>
th0br0: ... so it's going to look like GitLab? /s
craftyguy: That's almost the exact same layout as Gitlab. | [
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17,354,422 | 17,354,422 | ggg9990:I just don't think we're tracking towards a healthy world where your email vendor pulls the plug on your contract because of your activities. I don't think any business should be allowed to deny their offering to any paying customer.<p>Edit: Does that mean I have to sell lumber to the KKK even though they will likely burn a cross with it? Yes, unless they explicitly say they're going to. Leave those policing problems to the police, don't ask everyone to become a member of the police.
atom-morgan: > Does that mean I have to sell lumber to the KKK even though they will likely burn a cross with it? Yes, unless they explicitly say they're going to.<p>Then you're a slave of the state. It's not a policing problem, it's a freedom problem.
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17,354,423 | 17,354,423 | patarawan: I had several websites that were privately sharing stuff (for reviewing) and some author didn't liked our reviews and sent a DMCA.
We had 24h to remove our stuff and go somewhere else. They never given us any information about who did it and why.<p>I have been in Softlayer, Server4you and OVH with the same website, angry author tried to shut us down but it never happened.<p>So Hertzner is above and beyond the DMCA law, they totally ignore or are ignorant about the fair use doctrine and will kick you out if a competitor send a DMCA takedown notice.<p>Apart from that I love their offers, but nowadays, people are sending DMCA for anything and their policy is a liability for any website.
troffed: Hetzner, not "Hertzner" ;)<p>We love their service, their prices, their fiability.<p>Thanks for sharing this advice about DMCA
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17,354,424 | 17,354,424 | CamperBob2:And that would be my problem because...?<p>If they need to charge more, then they should charge more. YT Red is arguably too cheap.
omnimus: But then you are paywalling access to videos of non-profit organisation. Meaning
1. Blender will have to use different platform to make them accessible to everyone anyway.
2. Youtube/Google are still making money on otherwise free content.<p>Don't get me wrong i think they should get money for hosting but they want much more than that. That is the reason why they don't have any hosting premium plans (like vimeo does). If they did Im sure Blender foundation would pay for hosting of their videos.<p>Also lets not forget the overall highly positive impact these Blender videos have for the platform. They bring in people from embedded videos and people continue watching more videos (most likely monetized ones). When youtube hosts videos from blender or MIT they also can claim (as they love to do) how big educational impact they have...
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17,354,425 | 17,354,425 | cannam:What is "go/epitaphs"?
skj: An internal Google site that let's people see who has left the company and, occasionally, why.
walshemj: Err isn't that a potential huge legal liability | [
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17,354,426 | 17,354,426 | mad_tortoise:Government is only inevitable, only if you believe in these sets of prerequisites for constructing a government. These all can be managed without government should the people want it. It's called anarchy, not the neo-modern destructive type, but the real ideology actually sets this out very well, that government is not needed. It is to everyone's own opinion whether or not you need government and what each of us want from government. But to outright state that we can't exist without it, I think is wrong.
jasode: <i>>managed without government [...] It's called anarchy</i><p>If people agree to "manage" something, you'll end up with something that <i>acts</i> very much like a <scarequote>government</scarequote>.<p>The issue with talking about "anarchy" is that it's very easy to slip into <i>semantic word games</i> instead of looking at the underlying <i>concept</i> of how humans behave.<p>One reason "governments" or "managing" happens is that the real world has finite resources that's simultaneously desired by multiple people. E.g. there's a desirable piece of land. Since more than 1 person wants that land and since multiple can't live in the same spot, a <i>conflict</i> occurs. This eventually leads to a <i>subset of people</i> that make rules for others to follow. Whether you call that subset a "government" or "leaderless anarchy with unacknowledged rule-makers (wink)(wink)" is academic. (This is related to the joke, <i>"we are all equal but some are more equal than others."</i>)<p>If we depend on abolishing the idea of "property" to support the implementation of "anarchy", it still devolves to semantic word games because humans will invent equivalent euphemisms to "ownership" such as "99-year leases" or "temporary stewards of this land as communicated by a God", etc. Whatever people decide to call the <i>control</i> of that land, it's <i>functionally equivalent</i> to "property ownership".<p>This "resource limit" pattern repeats itself in the digital realm. Theoretically, there can be 7 billion people each with their own cryptocoin of which <i>mad_tortoise_coin</i> is one. However, these 7 billion individual blockchains are not useful. On the other hand, if people want to converge on a single blockchain cryptocurrency (such as Bitcoin) with <i>stable attributes</i>, a <i>governance</i> model will have to emerge. There's no way around it. If we still insist that we can have "anarchy" in Bitcoin because people can fork it, you eventually get "governance_0002" emerging in bitcoin_fork0002. Nobody "owns" the entire Bitcoin blockchain but nevertheless, participants still want to own pieces of it via public/private key pairs.<p>The collection of behavior that trends into a <group> that's functionally equivalent to something called "government", and a <concept> that's functionally equivalent to "ownership" seems to be embedded in the human condition.
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17,354,427 | 17,354,427 | mad_tortoise:Government is only inevitable, only if you believe in these sets of prerequisites for constructing a government. These all can be managed without government should the people want it. It's called anarchy, not the neo-modern destructive type, but the real ideology actually sets this out very well, that government is not needed. It is to everyone's own opinion whether or not you need government and what each of us want from government. But to outright state that we can't exist without it, I think is wrong.
m_fayer: While I haven't read the actual scholarly anarchist stuff, I hung out with some bookish lefty radicals in my college years and early 20s. What I saw then was a lot of attempts at alternative and non-hierarchical forms of organization, all of which seemed to evolve into something that could fairly be called government, if these attempts got far enough before falling apart.<p>> These all can be managed without government should the people want it<p>You say this as if the predictions of a social theory are as reliable as those of Newtonian physics. I don't think they are. And because I know of no historical example of an industrialized society functioning sustainably without a government, I tend to doubt a theory that says it's possible. Because if it was, you would think somewhere, somehow, it would have been successful already.
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17,354,429 | 17,354,429 | DanBC:The racism comes from saying "We recognise human faces" and then not recognising a significant proportion of humans.
pc86: That's not racism, that's laziness. Or perhaps just being a bad engineer, if you want to be more cynical about it.<p>It's not that hard to find both conscious and subconscious examples of systemic or individual racism. Engineers taking the easy path with webcam facial recognition is probably not a good one and serves only to give more fuel to those who claim people jump to the racism cry too quickly.
wpietri: If you ship a product because it only works for white people and that's good enough, that is definitely racism. Just as it would be sexism if you shipped a voice recognition product that only worked for men.<p>Laziness and racism aren't mutually exclusive. Historically in America, white people haven't considered black people as fully human. You can read the various declarations of secession or the 3/5ths compromise for that. Or the long post-Reconstruction history of slightly more subtle ways.<p>Sure, laziness was involved here. But deciding a product was good enough to ship without caring that it worked for black people requires the effective belief that black people didn't really count as people. At least, not people that mattered. Imagine the reverse: if the product didn't work on white men, would it have been shipped? Of course not.<p>When laziness just happens to have a blatantly racist outcome in a place where there is a centuries-long history of racism, Occam's Razor suggests the explanation is racism. If laziness could not have caused the bad outcome to happen for white people, then it's pretty clear that pure laziness is not the real cause. It's instead white people being differentially lazy when it comes to black people. That's clearly racism.<p>As a confirmatory example, look at the American justice system. In a lot of places and times, the same nominal laws applied to white and black people. But they were enforced very differently. Serious crimes against black people were ignored. Minor infractions by black people were enforced vigorously. [1] Were the cops lazy? Sure, everybody's lazy sometimes. Was that why there was a racially different outcome? Definitely not.<p>[1] Examples of this are all over Loewen's "Sundown Towns" for example.
krapp: > That's not racism, that's laziness. Or perhaps just being a bad engineer, if you want to be more cynical about it.<p>It can be both. An attitude that considers facial recognition software acceptable if it only recognizes light-skinned people is both lazy and racist. Only choosing to test on light-skinned people is racist because doing so assumes dark skinned people are an exception or an outlier, rather than an equally valid part of the set of "human faces."
sangnoir: > That's not racism, that's laziness. Or perhaps just being a bad engineer, if you want to be more cynical about it.<p>I wasn't ready to admit the genius of the show before, but I am now: what you said is quite close to a line from the same episode (said by the sociopathic boss, Veronica) when told by the protagonist that the sensors were effectively racist "[...] it's actually the opposite of racist, because it's <i>not</i> targeting black people. It's just ignoring them. [company] insist the worst people can call it is "indifferent.""
local_yokel: I agree. It's a well known problem where the training set isn't representative of the underlying population. While it can certainly be argued that the engineers should have recognized this deficiency and taken corrective action, I really don't understand why all the respondents to your post are so quick to assert racist intent based on clickbait headlines from Forbes.
skywhopper: But laziness around something that dispropotionately impacts people based on their race <i>is</i> racist. If you know your system has a harder time training against non-white faces, and you choose to train it only against white faces to be lazy, that's still explicitly racist. This isn't even a case of negligent racism ("oh well I didn't <i>know</i> my system wouldn't work for people with darker skin because only my white coworkers tried it out"). The example here is a case of the engineer explicitly deciding to avoid the harder case of darker skinned individuals, knowing that the results would be poorer for those individuals, and thinking it doesn't matter if the system doesn't work well for people with darker skin. That is explicit racism.
dagw: <i>That's not racism, that's laziness.</i><p>If the system had failed for with people with different hair color rather than skin color would they have been equally lazy?
drb91: Actually, even if it is accidental or subconscious, I'd say this is a perfect example of systemic racism--racist behavior (I'm referring to an algorithm/device specifically here, which you can safely call objectively racist) which is normally within society's acceptance level which, when magnified to a societal scale, is no longer acceptable. Another symptom of this illness is that you might not even notice <i>as a member of this system</i> the system is broken if you're white, but you would if you're black.<p>Personally, I think it could be understandable people didn't consider race when developing facial recognition technology, especially when we've only had mainstream awareness of this for under a decade and many people live in racially homogeneous or dominated cultures. However, I don't think it's acceptable for organizations, and the time when you can safely say you didn't understand biased learning data will be over soon. There are considerations you need to make scaling your tech from personal project to something the public will consume.<p>Also, the day will come when computers can point out racist stuff better than the average human can now, albeit with a high false positive rate. I say this because it's relatively easy; even if you only count a subset of tweets talking about racism as not trolling, that's still a shockingly high number of meaningful things about the world many people aren't seeing.
JJMcJ: Let's just say that if a system didn't recognize white people's faces, it probably wouldn't be viewed as "done".<p>If it's not worth the trouble to see if your system works for non-whites, that's beyond lazy.<p>Like the soap dispensers that don't work for dark skinned people.
TuringNYC: It is racism to realize the negative aspects to other races, nevertheless pitch it as universally functional, and push the cost/pain to other races. Laziness is some of it, some of it is the realization that only other races bear the brunt of the cost.
rmc: If it doesn't occur to you that there are black people, or you are too lazy to test against then, then that is racism.
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