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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
There were sour receptors and you wouldn't show me the back of your tongue where your
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
bitter receptor was.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Show the good side always.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Okay.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
So you had four dimensions of taste receptors, but you also had pain receptors on that tongue
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
and probably heat receptors on that time.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
So let's assume that you had one of each, that would be six dimensions.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
So when you eat something, you eat a slice of pizza and it's got some, some, uh, some
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
hot pepper on it, maybe some jalapeno, you're having a six dimensional experience, dude.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Do you think we overemphasize the value of time as one of the dimensions or space?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Well, we certainly overemphasize the value of time cause we like things to start and
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
end or we really don't like things to end, but they seem to.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Well, what if you flipped one of the spatial dimensions into being a temporal dimension?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
And you and I were to meet in New York city and say, well, where, where and when should
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
we meet?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
What about, I'll meet you on a 36 in Lexington at two in the afternoon and uh, 11 oclock
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
in the morning.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
That would be very confusing.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Well, so it's convenient for us to think about time, you mean.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
We happen to be in a delicious situation in which we have three dimensions of space and
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one of time and they're woven together in this sort of strange fabric where we can trade
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
off a little space for a little time, but we still only have one dimension that is picked
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
out relative to the other three.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
It's very much Gladys Knight and the pips.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
So which one developed for who?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Do we develop for these dimensions or did the dimensions or were they always there and
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
it doesn't?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Well, do you imagine that there isn't a place where there are four temporal dimensions or
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
two and two of space and time or three of time and one of space and then would time
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not be playing the role of space?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Why do you imagine that the sector that you're in is all that there is?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
I certainly do not, but I can't imagine otherwise.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
I mean, I haven't done ayahuasca or any of those drugs that hope to one day, but instead
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of doing ayahuasca, you could just head over to building two.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
That's where the mathematicians are?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Yeah, that's where they hang.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Just to look at some geometry.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Well, just ask about pseudo Ramanian geometry.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
That's what you're interested in.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Okay.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Or you could talk to a shaman and end up in Peru.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
And then it's an extra money for that trip.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Yeah, but you won't be able to do any calculations if that's how you choose to go about it.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Well, a different kind of calculation, so to speak.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Yeah.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
One of my favorite people, Edward Frankel, Berkeley professor, author of Love and Math,
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
great title for a book, said that you are quite a remarkable intellect to come up with
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
such beautiful original ideas in terms of unified theory and so on, but you're working
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outside academia.
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So one question in developing ideas that are truly original, truly interesting, what's
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the difference between inside academia and outside academia when it comes to developing
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such ideas?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Oh, it's a terrible choice.
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Terrible choice.
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So if you do it inside of academics, you are forced to constantly show great loyalty to
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the consensus and you distinguish yourself with small, almost microscopic heresies to
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make your reputation in general.
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And you have very competent people and brilliant people who are working together, who form
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very deep social networks and have a very high level of behavior, at least within mathematics
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and at least technically within physics, theoretical physics.
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When you go outside, you meet lunatics and crazy people, madmen.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
And these are people who do not usually subscribe to the consensus position and almost always
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lose their way.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
And the key question is, will progress likely come from someone who has miraculously managed
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to stay within the system and is able to take on a larger amount of heresy that is sort
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of unthinkable?
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In which case, that will be fascinating, or is it more likely that somebody will maintain
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a level of discipline from outside of academics and be able to make use of the freedom that
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comes from not having to constantly affirm your loyalty to the consensus of your field?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
So you've characterized in ways that academia in this particular sense is declining.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
You posted a plot, the older population of the faculty is getting larger, the younger
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
is getting smaller and so on.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
So which direction of the two are you more hopeful about?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Well, the baby boomers can't hang on forever.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
First of all, in general, true, and second of all, in academia.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
But that's really what this time is about.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
We're used to financial bubbles that last a few years in length and then pop.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
The baby boomer bubble is this really long lived thing, and all of the ideology, all
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
of the behavior patterns, the norms.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
For example, string theory is an almost entirely baby boomer phenomenon.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
It was something that baby boomers were able to do because it required a very high level
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of mathematical ability.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
You don't think of string theory as an original idea?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Oh, I mean, it was original to Veneziano, probably is older than the baby boomers.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
And there are people who are younger than the baby boomers who are still doing string
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theory.
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And I'm not saying that nothing discovered within the large string theoretic complex
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is wrong.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Quite the contrary.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
A lot of brilliant mathematics and a lot of the structure of physics was elucidated by
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
string theorists.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
What do I think of the deliverable nature of this product that will not ship called
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
string theory?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
I think that it is largely an affirmative action program for highly mathematically and
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
geometrically talented baby boomer physics physicists so that they can say that they're
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working on something within the constraints of what they will say is quantum gravity.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Now there are other schemes, you know, there's like asymptotic safety, there are other things
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
that you could imagine doing.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
I don't think much of any of the major programs, but to have inflicted this level of loyalty
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through a shibboleth.
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