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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
Her mother created it, she took it over,
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and the book was about the history of the school
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and her involvement with it.
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When she presented it to me,
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I was not so interested in the story of the school,
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but I was totally amazed with this manual typewriter.
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I mean, here is something you could put a blank piece
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of paper into and you could turn it into something
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that looked like it came from a book.
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And you can actually type on it
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and it looked like it came from a book.
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It was just amazing to me.
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And I could see actually how it worked.
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And I was also interested in magic.
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But in magic, if somebody actually knows how it works,
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the magic goes away.
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The magic doesn't stay there
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if you actually understand how it works.
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But here was technology.
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I didn't have that word when I was five or six.
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And the magic was still there for you?
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
The magic was still there, even if you knew how it worked.
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So I became totally interested in this
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and then went around, collected little pieces
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of mechanical objects from bicycles, from broken radios.
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I would go through the neighborhood.
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This was an era where you would allow five or six year olds
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to run through the neighborhood and do this.
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We don't do that anymore.
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But I didn't know how to put them together.
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
I said, if I could just figure out
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how to put these things together, I could solve any problem.
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
And I actually remember talking to these very old girls.
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I think they were 10.
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And telling them, if I could just figure this out,
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we could fly, we could do anything.
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And they said, well, you have quite an imagination.
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
And then when I was in third grade,
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so I was like eight,
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created like a virtual reality theater
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where people could come on stage
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and they could move their arms.
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And all of it was controlled through one control box.
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It was all done with mechanical technology.
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And it was a big hit in my third grade class.
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And then I went on to do things
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in junior high school science fairs
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and high school science fairs.
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I won the Westinghouse Science Talent Search.
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So I mean, I became committed to technology
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when I was five or six years old.
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
You've talked about how you use lucid dreaming to think,
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to come up with ideas as a source of creativity.
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Because you maybe talk through that,
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maybe the process of how to,
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you've invented a lot of things.
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You've came up and thought through
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some very interesting ideas.
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What advice would you give,
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or can you speak to the process of thinking,
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of how to think, how to think creatively?
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
Well, I mean, sometimes I will think through in a dream
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and try to interpret that.
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But I think the key issue that I would tell younger people
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is to put yourself in the position
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that what you're trying to create already exists.
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And then you're explaining, like...
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How it works.
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Exactly.
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That's really interesting.
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You paint a world that you would like to exist,
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you think it exists, and reverse engineer that.
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And then you actually imagine you're giving a speech
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about how you created this.
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Well, you'd have to then work backwards
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as to how you would create it in order to make it work.
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That's brilliant.
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And that requires some imagination too,
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some first principles thinking.
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You have to visualize that world.
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That's really interesting.
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And generally, when I talk about things
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we're trying to invent, I would use the present tense
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as if it already exists.
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Not just to give myself that confidence,
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but everybody else who's working on it.
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We just have to kind of do all the steps
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in order to make it actual.
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How much of a good idea is about timing?
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How much is it about your genius
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versus that its time has come?
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Timing's very important.
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I mean, that's really why I got into futurism.
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I didn't, I wasn't inherently a futurist.
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That was not really my goal.
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It's really to figure out when things are feasible.
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We see that now with large scale models.
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The very large scale models like GPT3,
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it started two years ago.
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Four years ago, it wasn't feasible.
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