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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
I think we definitely can do that.
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
And that would be very worthwhile.
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So do you think we'll have a world of replicants?
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Of copies?
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There'll be a bunch of Ray Kurzweils.
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Like, I could hang out with one.
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I can download it for five bucks
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and have a best friend, Ray.
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And you, the original copy, wouldn't even know about it.
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Is that, do you think that world is,
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
first of all, do you think that world is feasible?
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
And do you think there's ethical challenges there?
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
Like, how would you feel about me hanging out
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with Ray Kurzweil and you not knowing about it?
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It doesn't strike me as a problem.
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Which you, the original?
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Would you strike, would that cause a problem for you?
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
No, I would really very much enjoy it.
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
No, not just hang out with me,
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
but if somebody hang out with you, a replicant of you.
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
Well, I think I would start, it sounds exciting,
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
but then what if they start doing better than me
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and take over my friend group?
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
And then, because they may be an imperfect copy
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or there may be more social, all these kinds of things,
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
and then I become like the old version
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that's not nearly as exciting.
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
Maybe they're a copy of the best version of me
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on a good day.
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
Yeah, but if you hang out with a replicant of me
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and that turned out to be successful,
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I'd feel proud of that person because it was based on me.
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
So it's, but it is a kind of death of this version of you.
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
Well, not necessarily.
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
I mean, you can still be alive, right?
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
But, and you would be proud, okay,
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
so it's like having kids and you're proud
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that they've done even more than you were able to do.
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
Yeah, exactly.
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It does bring up new issues,
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but it seems like an opportunity.
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Well, that replicant should probably have the same rights
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as you do.
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Well, that gets into a whole issue
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because when a replicant occurs,
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they're not necessarily gonna have your rights.
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And if a replicant occurs,
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if it's somebody who's already dead,
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do they have all the obligations
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and that the original person had?
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Do they have all the agreements that they had?
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
I think you're gonna have to have laws that say yes.
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There has to be, if you wanna create a replicant,
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they have to have all the same rights as human rights.
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
Well, you don't know.
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Someone can create a replicant and say,
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well, it's a replicant,
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but I didn't bother getting their rights.
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And so.
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Yeah, but that would be illegal, I mean.
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Like if you do that, you have to do that in the black market.
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
If you wanna get an official replicant.
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Okay, it's not so easy.
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It's supposed to create multiple replicants.
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The original rights,
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maybe for one person and not for a whole group of people.
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
Sure.
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So there has to be at least one.
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And then all the other ones kinda share the rights.
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Yeah, I just don't think that,
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that's very difficult to conceive for us humans,
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the idea that this country.
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You create a replicant that has certain,
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
I mean, I've talked to people about this,
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including my wife, who would like to get back her father.
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And she doesn't worry about who has rights to what.
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She would have somebody that she could visit with
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and might give her some satisfaction.
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And she wouldn't care about any of these other rights.
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What does your wife think about multiple rake or as wells?
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Ray Kurzweil: Singularity, Superintelligence, and Immortality | Lex Fridman Podcast #321
Have you had that discussion?
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I haven't addressed that with her.
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I think ultimately that's an important question,
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loved ones, how they feel about.
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There's something about love.
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Well, that's the key thing, right?
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If the loved one's rejected,
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it's not gonna work very well, so.
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So the loved ones really are the key determinant,
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whether or not this works or not.
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But there's also ethical rules.
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We have to contend with the idea,
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and we have to contend with that idea with AI.
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But what's gonna motivate it is,
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I mean, I talk to people who really miss people who are gone
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and they would love to get something back,
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even if it isn't perfect.
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And that's what's gonna motivate this.
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And that person lives on in some form.
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And the more data we have,
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