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Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | of communication. What about in some sense, if it gets you to do something you haven't done before, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:48:11.520 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | is it answering back? Yeah, most certainly. And there's, I've seen cartoons, I think maybe Gary | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:48:19.040 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | Larson or somebody had had a cartoon of these rats in the maze and the one rat, you know, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:48:24.560 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | assist to the other. You look at this every time, every time I walk over here, he starts scribbling | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:48:29.040 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | in that on the, you know, on the clipboard that he has, it's awesome. If we step outside ourselves | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:48:32.720 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | and really measure how much, like if I actually measure how much I've changed because of my | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:48:38.720 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | interaction with certain cellular automata. I mean, you really have to take that into | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:48:46.400 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | consideration about like, well, these things are changing you too. Yes. I know, you know how it | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:48:52.400 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | works and so on, but you're being changed by the thing. Yeah, absolutely. I think I read, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:48:58.320 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | I don't know any details, but I think I read something about how wheat and other things | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:49:04.080 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | have domesticated humans in terms of, right, but by their properties change the way that | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:49:08.640 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | the human behavior and societal structures. In that sense, cats are running the world | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:49:13.520 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | because they've took over the, so first off, so first they, while not giving a shit about humans, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:49:20.240 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | clearly with every ounce of their being, they've somehow got just millions and millions of humans | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:49:27.200 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | to take them home and feed them. And then not only the physical space did they take over, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:49:35.680 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | they took over the digital space. They dominate the internet in terms of cuteness, in terms of | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:49:43.280 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | memeability. And so they're like, they got themselves literally inside the memes, they | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:49:48.640 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | become viral and spread on the internet. And they're the ones that are probably controlling | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:49:55.760 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | humans. That's my theory. Another, that's a follow up paper after the frog kissing. Okay. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:50:01.040 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | I mean, you mentioned sentience and consciousness. You have a paper titled Generalizing Frameworks | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:50:06.000 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | for Sentience Beyond Natural Species. So beyond normal cognition, if we look at sentience and | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:50:18.000 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | consciousness, and I wonder if you draw an interesting distinction between those two | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:50:30.320 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | elsewhere, outside of humans, and maybe outside of Earth, you think aliens have sentience. And | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:50:34.000 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | if they do, how do we think about it? So when you have this framework, what is this paper? What is | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:50:45.120 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | the way you propose to think about sentience? Yeah, that particular paper was a very short | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:50:50.880 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | commentary on another paper that was written about crabs. It was a really good paper on them, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:50:57.040 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | crabs and various, like a rubric of different types of behaviors that could be applied to | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:51:01.280 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | different creatures, and they're trying to apply it to crabs and so on. Consciousness, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:51:07.760 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | we can talk about if you want, but it's a whole separate kettle of fish. I almost never talk about | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:51:13.440 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | crabs. In this case, yes. I almost never talk about consciousness, per se. I've said very, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:51:18.400 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | very little about it, but we can talk about it if you want. Mostly what I talk about is cognition, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:51:24.240 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | because I think that that's much easier to deal with in a kind of rigorous experimental way. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:51:29.120 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | I think that all of these terms have, you know, sentience and so on, have different definitions, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:51:36.240 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | and I fundamentally, I think that people can, as long as they specify what they mean ahead of time, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:51:45.040 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | I think people can define them in various ways. The only thing that I really think | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:51:53.520 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | that I really kind of insist on is that the right way to think about all this stuff is | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:51:58.480 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | from an engineering perspective. What does it help me to control, predict, and does it help | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:52:06.800 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | me do my next experiment? That's not a universal perspective. Some people have philosophical | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:52:12.640 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | kind of underpinnings, and those are primary, and if anything runs against that, then it must | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:52:20.720 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | automatically be wrong. Some people will say, I don't care what else. If your theory says to me | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:52:25.600 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | that thermostats have little tiny goals, I'm not, so that's it. That's my philosophical | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:52:31.440 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | preconception. Thermostats do not have goals, and that's it. That's one way of doing it, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:52:38.560 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | and some people do it that way. I do not do it that way, and I think that we can't, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:52:43.200 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | I don't think we can know much of anything from a philosophical armchair. I think that | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:52:47.440 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | all of these theories and ways of doing things stand or fall based on just basically one set | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:52:51.440 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | of criteria. Does it help you run a rich research program? That's it. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:52:57.280 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | I agree with you totally, but forget philosophy. What about the poetry of ambiguity? What about | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:53:01.040 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | at the limits of the things you can engineer using terms that can be defined in multiple ways | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:53:08.240 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | and living within that uncertainty in order to play with words until something lands that you | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:53:14.800 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | can engineer? I mean, that's to me where consciousness sits currently. Nobody really | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:53:22.720 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | understands the heart problem of consciousness, the subject, what it feels like, because it really | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:53:27.600 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | feels like, it feels like something to be this biological system. This conglomerate of a bunch | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:53:33.360 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | of cells in this hierarchy of competencies feels like something, and yeah, I feel like one thing, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:53:39.040 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | and is that just a side effect of a complex system, or is there something more that humans have, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:53:45.360 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | or is there something more that any biological system has? Some kind of magic, some kind of, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:53:58.720 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | not just a sense of agency, but a real sense with a capital letter S of agency. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:54:03.680 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | Yeah. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:54:10.560 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | Ah, boy, yeah, that's a deep question. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:54:12.080 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | Is there room for poetry in engineering or no? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:54:13.760 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | No, there definitely is, and a lot of the poetry comes in when we realize that none of the | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:54:16.640 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | categories we deal with are sharp as we think they are, right? And so in the different areas of all | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:54:22.240 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | these spectra are where a lot of the poetry sits, I have many new theories about things, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:54:29.680 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | but I, in fact, do not have a good theory about consciousness that I plan to trot out. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:54:34.160 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | And you almost don't see it as useful for your current work to think about consciousness? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:54:38.400 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | I think it will come. I have some thoughts about it, but I don't feel like they're going to move | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:54:42.800 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | the needle yet on that. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:54:46.160 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | And you want to ground it in engineering always. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:54:47.520 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | So, well, I mean, so if we really tackle consciousness per se, in the terms of the | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:54:50.720 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | hard problem, that isn't necessarily going to be groundable in engineering, right? That | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:54:58.240 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | aspect of cognition is, but actual consciousness per se, first person perspective, I'm not sure | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:55:04.160 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | that that's groundable in engineering. And I think specifically what's different about it is | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:55:10.400 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | there's a couple of things. So let's, you know, here we go. I'll say a couple of things about | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:55:16.480 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | consciousness. One thing is that what makes it different is that for every other thing, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:55:20.800 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | other aspect of science, when we think about having a correct or a good theory of it, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:55:28.000 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | we have some idea of what format that theory makes predictions in. So whether those be numbers | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:55:35.200 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | or whatever, we have some idea. We may not know the answer, we may not have the theory, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:55:41.360 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | but we know that when we get the theory, here's what it's going to output, and then we'll know | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:55:45.200 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | if it's right or wrong. For actual consciousness, not behavior, not neural correlates, but actual | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:55:49.120 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | first person consciousness. If we had a correct theory of consciousness, or even a good one, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:55:54.320 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | what the hell would, what format would it make predictions in, right? Because all the things | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:55:59.840 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | that we know about basically boil down to observable behaviors. So the only thing I can | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:56:05.440 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | think of when I think about that is, it'll be poetry, or it'll be something to, if I ask you, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:56:10.640 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | okay, you've got a great theory of consciousness, and here's this creature, maybe it's a natural one, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:56:19.920 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | maybe it's an engineered one, whatever. And I want you to tell me what your theory says about this | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:56:23.920 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | being, what it's like to be this being. The only thing I can imagine you giving me is some piece | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:56:30.000 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | of art, a poem or something, that once I've taken it in, I share, I now have a similar state as | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:56:36.640 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | whatever. That's about as good as I can come up with. Well, it's possible that once you have a | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:56:45.600 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | good understanding of consciousness, it would be mapped to some things that are more measurable. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:56:51.360 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | So for example, it's possible that a conscious being is one that's able to suffer. So you start | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:56:56.240 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | to look at pain and suffering. You can start to connect it closer to things that you can measure | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:57:07.440 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | that, in terms of how they reflect themselves in behavior and problem solving and creation and | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:57:16.400 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | attainment of goals, for example, which I think suffering is one of the, you know, life is suffering. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:57:25.760 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | It's one of the big aspects of the human condition. And so if consciousness is somehow a, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:57:31.520 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | maybe at least a catalyst for suffering, you could start to get like echoes of it. You start to see | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:57:40.720 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | like the actual effects of consciousness and behavior. That it's not just about subjective | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:57:48.080 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | experience. It's like it's really deeply integrated in the problem solving decision making of a | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:57:52.880 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | system, something like this. But also it's possible that we realize, this is not a philosophical | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:57:59.120 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | statement. Philosophers can write their books. I welcome it. You know, I take the Turing test | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:58:06.000 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | really seriously. I don't know why people really don't like it. When a robot convinces you that | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:58:13.360 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | it's intelligent, I think that's a really incredible accomplishment. And there's some deep | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:58:20.800 |
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