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B: yet, you go out on the streets
B: and they're giving speeding tickets.
A: Yeah.
B: I think somehow you have to separate the revenues from,
A: Well, you know, uh, talking about the lawyers, you know what might very well do, uh, cause a, uh, a drop in the number of lawyers and things like that, is to set the fees for cases.
A: It's kind of like do it, do it in the similar vein similar, like, uh, V C R or television repair.
A: If you take your T V in, a lot of these T V repair places will say, well, I'll repair your T V for a hundred dollars,
A: and if he gets in there and starts rooting around and finds something in there that's really tremendously wrong with it, then he eats it.
A: He, he repairs it, gives it back to you, and takes your hundred dollars.
A: Now, if he comes in and says, you know, I'll repair your, your V C R, or somebody else's V C R, for a hundred dollars, gets in there,
A: maybe it's a blown fuse,
A: takes him two minutes,
A: he fixes it,
A: he still charges you that hundred dollars.
A: So, maybe if we did that with the lawyers, so that, you know, whether it's a murder case or a, you know, a civil, uh, somebody suing somebody else, you get X dollars for that case
A: and that's it.
B: Now, I firmly believe in that
A: None of this,
B: because when you get the most heinous of crimes, have you ever noticed you always get the most renowned defense attorney?
A: Oh, yeah.
B: And here's this bum that didn't have a job
A: Yeah.
B: and he's got a attorney that you and I could never afford.
A: That's true.
B: Who's paying for that?
A: Yeah.
A: Um, well, you, you know, you're talking to part of them that's paying for that
B: Yeah,
B: and you're talking to the other half that's paying for it
A: That's right.
A: You know that's, it, it's, it's amazing
A: and, and when you stop and look at it, I mean, the judges, they're all former lawyers.
B: Yeah,
B: well, that's another problem.
B: I think to really correct the judicial system, you have to get the lawyers out of it
B: I mean, they're, they're totally and morally bankrupt without any ethics whatsoever,
B: and with that type person running it, I mean, you, you could expect that you,
A: Do you know anyone that, uh, is, is in a nursing home or has ever been in one?
B: No.
B: But I, my grandparents were looking into it before
B: so I know what they've said.
A: Uh-huh.
B: Uh-huh.
A: Well, I'm trying to think.
A: My, uh, uh, wife's grandmother had Alzheimer's
A: and they were going to put her into a, a nursing home
A: and, uh, they, when they put her in, she had all kinds of trouble
A: and the nursing home made them come and take her back because she was being a, a, you know, a, a nuisance. Or worse than a nuisance,
A: I mean she sort of went, you know, bananas
B: they thought it was too much of a bother.
A: and they couldn't, couldn't deal with her
A: So, I guess you need to, uh, know whether it's a, you know, a no deposit, no return kind of thing whether
B: Right.
B: If they're equipped too, to handle the kind of patients you're going to have you know, put in there too.
A: Yeah.
B: Because I know my grandparents wanted to have some independence still.
A: Right.
B: They wanted some place they can go and have their meals and a nurse on staff just in case they needed her
B: but they wanted to be independent as well. Have their own room.
A: Right.
A: My grandmother actually was in a, a nursing home that, uh,
A: there was a retirement hotel and then a, uh,
A: there was some sort of full-time care place that was also associated with it
A: so for, uh, the first few years she had her own apartment and, you know, made her own meals sometimes. But could, could also go and eat someplace else.
B: Uh-huh.
A: And then, uh, as she became less able to take care of herself, then she moved into this other part that was able to, uh, provide full-time care
A: and, uh, she didn't have to do anything anymore.
A: But my experience has been that most people that move into nursing homes die very quickly.
A: And that's
A: I don't know whether that's because they, you know, sort of give up hope once they get in there or what the, the reason is.
A: But I think the average length of time that somebody lives in a nursing home is only like six months or something.
B: Well a lot of it's probably to do with the fact that people go to it because they need help.
A: Yeah.
B: They need health care
B: so they're already ill before they go.
A: Right.
B: That's probably a large factor.
A: Yeah.
A: If, if you can take care of yourself at all or have someone that can take care of you, then you stay where you are.
A: Then you only go there as a last resort.
B: Uh-huh.
A: Or people send you there as a last resort.
B: Right,
B: right.
B: That's what my grandparents,
B: it was just so that the rest of the relatives would have peace of mind knowing that if anything happened, there was somebody there for them.
A: Uh-huh.
B: So that was their thinking.
B: Somebody who would know what to do in the event of an emergency.
A: Right.
B: And also so they could find someplace that they enjoyed while they still had choices to make. So they wouldn't be stuck going into just whatever nursing home was available at the time.
A: Right.
B: I guess that's a problem too for people. Wait lists and all.
A: Yeah,
A: I guess.
B: That, uh,
B: you can't always get in when you want too
B: and of course, you can't just sit around and wait.
A: Right.
A: When you need it, you need it I guess.