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Well, what about the givens that we now have, the givens that come out of these studies, givens that we should be eating a Mediterranean diet, we shouldn't be smoking, we should be getting plenty of exercise, that all those things will keep us healthy?	well what about the givens that we now have. the givens that come out of these studies. givens that we should be eating a mediterranean, diet we shouldn't be smoking we should. be getting plenty of exercise that all those things will keep us	Well what about. the givens that we now have the. givens that come out of these studies givens that we should be eating a Mediterranean diet. we shouldn't be smoking we should. be getting plenty. of exercise that all those, things will keep us	well, what about the givens that we now have, the givens that come out of these studies, givens that we should be eating a mediterranean diet, we shouldn't be smoking, we should be getting plenty of exercise, that all those things will keep us healthy?
You shouldn't be smoking. That's probably the one thing that has come out of these studies that, you know, the data was just so unambiguous that you can't explain what we're seeing any other way.	you shouldn't be, smoking that's, probably, the one thing that has come; out of these. studies that you know the data was just so unambiguous that you can't explain what we're. seeing any other.	You shouldn't be smoking That's. probably the one thing that has come out of these studies that you know the data was just so unambiguous that you can't explain what we're seeing any other,	you shouldn't be smoking. that's probably the one thing that has come out of these studies that, you know, the data was just so unambiguous that you can't explain what we're seeing any other way.
The problem with all these other things, even exercise and the Mediterranean diet, is there is other ways to explain it. There's this phenomenon called the healthy user effect. Somebody who chooses to do something that they think is healthy tends to do a lot of things that they think are healthy. So people who choose t...	the problem with all these other things even exercise; and the mediterranean diet is there is other ways to explain. it there's this phenomenon called the healthy user effect somebody who. chooses to do something that they think, is healthy tends to do a lot of things that they think, are healthy so people who choose t...	The, problem with all these other things even exercise. and the Mediterranean diet is; there is other; ways to explain it There's this phenomenon called the. healthy user effect Somebody who chooses to do, something that they think is healthy tends to do a lot of, things that they think are. healthy So people who choos...	the problem with all these other things, even exercise and the mediterranean diet, is there is other ways to explain it. there's this phenomenon called the healthy user effect. somebody who chooses to do something that they think is healthy tends to do a lot of things that they think are healthy. so people who choose t...
South Carolina Republicans were out in full force yesterday morning at Tommy's Country Ham House, in Greenville.	south carolina republicans were out in full force yesterday morning at tommy's country ham house in	South Carolina Republicans were out in full force yesterday, morning, at, Tommy's; Country Ham House in	south carolina republicans were out in full force yesterday morning at tommy's country ham house, in greenville.
Be skeptical. You know, if it's telling you that by doing it you'll be healthier, unless it's a randomized control trial, you don't know what they're missing.	be skeptical you know if it's telling you that by doing it you'll be, healthier unless. it's a randomized control trial you don't know what, they're	Be skeptical You know if it's telling you; that by doing it, you'll be healthier unless. it's a randomized control trial you don't. know what they're	be skeptical. you know, if it's telling you that by doing it you'll be healthier, unless it's a randomized control trial, you don't know what they're missing.
One of the reasons I wrote the article is I'm trying to get my colleagues in the press to stop reporting these stories. And it would be great if I could the epidemiologists themselves to stop making that step from association to maybe it implies cause and effect. You know, you read their articles and it's fascinating b...	one of the reasons i wrote the. article is i'm trying to get my colleagues; in the press to stop reporting these stories and it would be. great if. i could the epidemiologists themselves to stop making that step from association to maybe it implies cause. and effect you know you read their articles and it's fascinating...	One of the reasons I; wrote the article is I'm trying to get my colleagues in the press to stop reporting these stories And it would be great if I could the epidemiologists themselves to stop making that step from association to maybe it implies cause and effect You know. you read their articles and it's fascinating be...	one of the reasons i wrote the article is i'm trying to get my colleagues in the press to stop reporting these stories. and it would be great if i could the epidemiologists themselves to stop making that step from association to maybe it implies cause and effect. you know, you read their articles and it's fascinating b...
Gary Taubes, thank you for joining us.	gary taubes thank you for, joining,	Gary Taubes thank you for joining	gary taubes, thank you for joining us.
It's been a pleasure.	it's been a	It's been a	it's been a pleasure.
That's Gary Taubes. His article on the problems with epidemiology is the cover story in this coming Sunday's New York Times Magazine, and he has a new book coming out. It is called "Good Calories, Bad Calories: Challenging the Conventional Wisdom on Diet, Weight Control and Disease."	that's gary taubes his article on the problems with epidemiology, is the cover story in this coming sunday's new york times, magazine and he has a new book coming out it. is called "good calories bad calories: challenging the conventional, wisdom on diet weight control and	That's Gary Taubes His article on the problems with epidemiology is the cover story, in this coming. Sunday's New. York Times Magazine and he, has a new book coming out It is called "Good Calories Bad Calories: Challenging the Conventional Wisdom on Diet Weight Control and,	that's gary taubes. his article on the problems with epidemiology is the cover story in this coming sunday's new york times magazine, and he has a new book coming out. it is called "good calories, bad calories: challenging the conventional wisdom on diet, weight control and disease."
Speaking to reporters at the White House today, President Bush responded to the Iraq casualty study.	speaking to reporters at the white house. today president bush responded to, the iraq, casualty	Speaking to reporters at. the White House. today President Bush responded to. the Iraq casualty	speaking to reporters at the white house today, president bush responded to the iraq casualty study.
President GEORGE W. BUSH: I don't consider it a credible report. Neither does General Casey and neither do Iraqi officials. I do know that a lot of innocent people have died. And that troubles me. And it grieves me.	president george w bush: i don't consider it a credible report neither does general casey and neither do iraqi officials i do know that a lot of innocent people have died and that troubles. me and it grieves	President GEORGE W BUSH: I don't consider it a credible report Neither does General Casey and neither do. Iraqi officials I do know that a lot of innocent people have died And that, troubles me And it grieves	president george w. bush: i don't consider it a credible report. neither does general casey and neither do iraqi officials. i do know that a lot of innocent people have died. and that troubles me. and it grieves me.
I'm joined now from Washington by Mara Liasson. She's NPR's national political correspondent. So, Mara, it appears the president does not accept that finding, the 650,000 or so Iraqis dead because of the war.	i'm joined now from washington by mara, liasson she's npr's national political correspondent so mara it appears the, president does not accept. that finding the 650,000 or so iraqis dead because of the	I'm joined now from Washington; by Mara Liasson She's NPR's national political correspondent So Mara, it. appears the president does not accept that finding the 650,000 or so Iraqis, dead because of the	i'm joined now from washington by mara liasson. she's npr's national political correspondent. so, mara, it appears the president does not accept that finding, the 650,000 or so iraqis dead because of the war.
No, he doesn't. But he certainly acknowledges over and over again that what's happening in Iraq is very disturbing to Americans and that the violence is continuing and it's not a good thing.	no he doesn't but he certainly acknowledges, over and over again that what's happening, in iraq, is very, disturbing to americans and that the violence is continuing and it's not a good	No, he doesn't But he certainly acknowledges over and over again that what's happening in Iraq is very disturbing to, Americans and that the violence is continuing and it's not a. good	no, he doesn't. but he certainly acknowledges over and over again that what's happening in iraq is very disturbing to americans and that the violence is continuing and it's not a good thing.
John Warner - Senator John Warner of Virginia who's the chairman of the Armed Services Committee and James Baker, who is one of the Bush family's most trusted advisors and a top official in the president's father's administration.	john warner - senator john warner of. virginia who's the chairman of the armed services committee and james baker who is one of the bush family's; most trusted advisors and a top official in the president's father's	John Warner - Senator. John; Warner of Virginia who's the chairman of the Armed Services Committee and James Baker who, is one of, the Bush family's most trusted advisors and a top official in the president's father's	john warner - senator john warner of virginia who's the chairman of the armed services committee and james baker, who is one of the bush family's most trusted advisors and a top official in the president's father's administration.
Both of them - Warner said that he came back from Iraq and he thought the situation was going sideways, not going well. James Baker has said - and he is the head of something called the Iraq Study Group - he has said that changes in strategy might be needed.	both of them. - warner. said that he came back from iraq and he thought the situation was. going sideways not going well james baker has. said - and he is the head of something called the iraq study group - he has said that changes in strategy might be.	Both of them - Warner said that he, came. back from Iraq and, he thought the situation was going sideways, not, going well James Baker has said - and. he is the head of something called the. Iraq Study Group, - he has, said that changes in strategy might be	both of them - warner said that he came back from iraq and he thought the situation was going sideways, not going well. james baker has said - and he is the head of something called the iraq study group - he has said that changes in strategy might be needed.
The president was asked about this and he said, well, we're constantly changing tactics on the ground to achieve a strategic goal, which is to help the Iraqi democracy succeed. Of course, he rejects a strategic change which might include recognizing that this isn't working and perhaps drawing down troops or partitionin...	the president was asked about this and he said well, we're constantly changing, tactics on the ground to achieve a. strategic goal which is to help the iraqi democracy succeed of course. he rejects a strategic change which. might include recognizing that. this isn't working and perhaps drawing down troops or partitioni...	The president was asked about this and he said well we're constantly changing tactics on the ground. to achieve. a strategic goal which is to help the Iraqi democracy. succeed Of course he, rejects a strategic change which might include recognizing that this isn't working and, perhaps drawing down. troops or partitioni...	the president was asked about this and he said, well, we're constantly changing tactics on the ground to achieve a strategic goal, which is to help the iraqi democracy succeed. of course, he rejects a strategic change which might include recognizing that this isn't working and perhaps drawing down troops or partitionin...
But clearly, there are voices inside the president's own camp who are now questioning whether this can succeed.	but clearly there are voices inside the president's own camp who are, now questioning whether this. can	But clearly there are voices. inside the president's own camp who, are now questioning whether this can	but clearly, there are voices inside the president's own camp who are now questioning whether this can succeed.
And Mara, did he acknowledge at all that this may be one reason why his party is facing an uphill battle to retain control during the midterm elections?	and mara did he acknowledge at, all that this may be one reason why his party is, facing an uphill battle to retain control during the midterm	And Mara did he acknowledge at all. that this may. be one reason why his party is facing an uphill battle to retain control during the midterm,	and mara, did he acknowledge at all that this may be one reason why his party is facing an uphill battle to retain control during the midterm elections?
Oh, sure he does. And he's done that before. He said the situation in Iraq is tough on the American psyche. American voters want to know, can we win and do we have a plan? And he said that before. And, of course, he spent a lot of time trying to convince Americans that yes, we are going to succeed and we do have a plan...	oh sure he does and he's done that before he said. the situation in iraq is tough on the american psyche american voters; want to know can we win and do we have a, plan? and he said that before and of course he spent a lot of time. trying to convince americans that yes we are, going to succeed, and we do have a	Oh sure; he does And, he's done that before He said the situation in Iraq is tough on the American psyche American voters want to know can we win and. do we have a plan? And he said that before And. of course he spent a lot of time trying to convince Americans that yes we are going to succeed and we do have a	oh, sure he does. and he's done that before. he said the situation in iraq is tough on the american psyche. american voters want to know, can we win and do we have a plan? and he said that before. and, of course, he spent a lot of time trying to convince americans that yes, we are going to succeed and we do have a plan...
Let's talk about North Korea. What was his statement today about North Korea's possible detonation of a nuclear device this week? Did he say anything about what the White House might do?	let's talk about north korea what was his. statement today about north korea's possible detonation of a nuclear device this. week? did he say anything about what the white house might	Let's talk about North. Korea What was, his statement, today about North Korea's, possible detonation of a nuclear device this week? Did he say anything about, what the White House might	let's talk about north korea. what was his statement today about north korea's possible detonation of a nuclear device this week? did he say anything about what the white house might do?
No. I mean, he says they're going to continue to push the multilateral diplomatic approach, which is what they've been doing - six-party talks -which, of course, North Korea has left.	no i mean he says they're going to continue to push the multilateral diplomatic approach which is what they've. been doing - six-party talks -which of course north korea has	No I, mean he says they're going to. continue. to push the multilateral diplomatic, approach which is what they've been doing - six-party, talks -which of course North; Korea has	no. i mean, he says they're going to continue to push the multilateral diplomatic approach, which is what they've been doing - six-party talks -which, of course, north korea has left.
The big political question this year about North Korea is whether this bomb blast is going to help the Democrats or the Republicans. Now Republicans say it gets attention off of the Foley scandal and back onto national security, which is the strong suit for Republicans.	the; big political question this year about north korea. is whether this bomb blast is going to help the democrats or the republicans now. republicans say it gets attention off of the, foley scandal and back onto national security which is the strong suit for	The big, political question this year about North Korea is whether this bomb blast is going, to help the Democrats or the Republicans Now Republicans, say it gets attention off of the. Foley scandal, and back onto national security which is the. strong suit. for	the big political question this year about north korea is whether this bomb blast is going to help the democrats or the republicans. now republicans say it gets attention off of the foley scandal and back onto national security, which is the strong suit for republicans.
But Democrats are saying, asking the question, basically, when it comes to the axis of evil - Iran, Iraq, and North Korea - are you better off now than you were four years ago? And to them, the answer is no. They're saying that Bush took his eye off the ball. His approach isn't working. And they are fighting back prett...	but democrats are saying asking the question, basically when it comes to, the axis of evil. - iran iraq and north korea - are you better off now than you were four years ago? and to them the answer is no they're, saying that bush. took his eye off the ball his approach isn't working and, they are fighting back pretty. ...	But Democrats are saying asking the question basically when it comes to. the axis of evil - Iran Iraq and North Korea - are, you, better off now, than you were four years ago? And to them the answer is no They're saying that Bush took his eye off the ball His. approach isn't working And they are fighting back pretty ha...	but democrats are saying, asking the question, basically, when it comes to the axis of evil - iran, iraq, and north korea - are you better off now than you were four years ago? and to them, the answer is no. they're saying that bush took his eye off the ball. his approach isn't working. and they are fighting back prett...
And U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan today reiterated his call for the U.S. to hold two-party talks, direct talks with North Korea. Did President Bush say anything about that?	and u.n, secretary general kofi annan today reiterated his call for the u.s to. hold two-party talks direct talks with north korea did president bush say anything about	And U.N Secretary General Kofi Annan today reiterated his call for the, U.S to hold two-party talks direct, talks with North Korea Did President Bush say anything about	and u.n. secretary general kofi annan today reiterated his call for the u.s. to hold two-party talks, direct talks with north korea. did president bush say anything about that?
No, but President Bush is adamantly against two-party talks. Of course, bilateral talks was the approach of the Clinton administration and they got an agreement with North Korea, which North Korea cheated on. So the president said the previous administration tried one approach, it didn't work. I decided to try another ...	no but president. bush is adamantly. against two-party talks of course bilateral talks was the approach of the clinton administration and they got an agreement, with north korea which north korea cheated on, so the president said. the. previous administration tried one approach it didn't work i decided to try another a...	No but President Bush is adamantly against. two-party. talks Of course, bilateral talks was the approach, of the Clinton administration and they got an agreement with North Korea which. North Korea cheated on So the president said the, previous administration tried one approach it didn't work I decided to try another a...	no, but president bush is adamantly against two-party talks. of course, bilateral talks was the approach of the clinton administration and they got an agreement with north korea, which north korea cheated on. so the president said the previous administration tried one approach, it didn't work. i decided to try another ...
NPR's national political correspondent, Mara Liasson. Thanks, Mara.	npr's. national political correspondent mara liasson thanks	NPR's national political correspondent Mara Liasson Thanks	npr's national political correspondent, mara liasson. thanks, mara.
Thank you, Madeleine.	thank you	Thank you	thank you, madeleine.
This is WEEKEND EDITION, from NPR News. I'm Rachel Martin. After a turbulent week of dropouts, reversals and impassioned pleas, in the end, it wasn't even close. Newt Gingrich beat Mitt Romney in the South Carolina GOP primary by 12 percentage points - a decisive win for the former speaker of the House, and a surprise ...	this is weekend edition from npr news i'm rachel martin after a turbulent week of dropouts reversals and impassioned pleas in the end it. wasn't even close newt gingrich, beat mitt romney in the south, carolina gop primary by 12 percentage points, - a decisive win for the former speaker of the house. and a, surprise fo...	This. is WEEKEND EDITION from. NPR News I'm Rachel Martin After a turbulent week of dropouts reversals; and impassioned. pleas in the end; it wasn't even close Newt Gingrich beat Mitt Romney in, the South Carolina GOP primary by 12 percentage points - a decisive win, for the former speaker of the House, and a surprise ...	this is weekend edition, from npr news. i'm rachel martin. after a turbulent week of dropouts, reversals and impassioned pleas, in the end, it wasn't even close. newt gingrich beat mitt romney in the south carolina gop primary by 12 percentage points - a decisive win for the former speaker of the house, and a surprise ...
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Now, a crisis of gefilte fish. The Jewish delicacy is a staple at many Passover Seders; it's coming up in three weeks. It's made of ground fish, often carp, and the vast majority of Israel's Asian carp - believe it or not - comes from Schafer Fisheries in Thompson, Illinois.	now. a crisis of gefilte. fish the jewish delicacy is a staple at many passover. seders it's coming up in three weeks it's made of. ground fish often carp and, the vast majority of israel's asian carp. - believe it. or. not - comes, from schafer fisheries in thompson	Now a crisis of gefilte fish The Jewish delicacy is. a staple at many Passover Seders, it's coming up. in three weeks It's made of. ground fish often carp and the vast majority of Israel's Asian carp - believe it or not - comes, from, Schafer. Fisheries in Thompson	now, a crisis of gefilte fish. the jewish delicacy is a staple at many passover seders; it's coming up in three weeks. it's made of ground fish, often carp, and the vast majority of israel's asian carp - believe it or not - comes from schafer fisheries in thompson, illinois.
But the Israeli government recently reinstated a hefty import tax on the fish, and that has held up almost 400,000 pounds of Schafer's frozen carp.	but the israeli government recently reinstated a hefty import tax on the fish and that has held. up almost 400,000 pounds of schafer's frozen.	But the Israeli government recently reinstated a hefty import tax on the fish and that has held up almost 400,000 pounds of Schafer's frozen	but the israeli government recently reinstated a hefty import tax on the fish, and that has held up almost 400,000 pounds of schafer's frozen carp.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has gotten involved. She broached the subject with Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak. And today, at least some of the fish has been let into Israel, but far more remains in limbo, forcing Schafer Fisheries to lay off some of its workers.	secretary, of state hillary clinton has gotten involved she broached the subject with israeli defense minister ehud barak and today at least some of the fish has, been let into israel but, far more remains in limbo forcing schafer fisheries to lay off some of its	Secretary. of State Hillary Clinton, has gotten involved She broached the subject with Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak And today at least some of the fish. has been let into Israel but far more remains in limbo forcing Schafer Fisheries to. lay off some of its	secretary of state hillary clinton has gotten involved. she broached the subject with israeli defense minister ehud barak. and today, at least some of the fish has been let into israel, but far more remains in limbo, forcing schafer fisheries to lay off some of its workers.
The owner of Schafer, Mike Schafer, joins us now. And Mr. Schafer, tell us about this tariff. How big is it?	the owner of schafer mike schafer joins us, now and mr schafer tell us, about this tariff how big is	The owner of Schafer Mike Schafer joins us now And; Mr Schafer tell us about; this tariff How; big is	the owner of schafer, mike schafer, joins us now. and mr. schafer, tell us about this tariff. how big is it?
Oh, the tariff is, from what I understand, 120 percent of the value of the fish. So it's basically around $1.10 a pound tariff on the product.	oh, the tariff is from what i understand 120 percent of the value of. the fish so it's basically around $1.10 a pound tariff, on the.	Oh the tariff is from what I understand 120 percent of the value of the fish. So it's basically around $1.10 a pound tariff on the	oh, the tariff is, from what i understand, 120 percent of the value of the fish. so it's basically around $1.10 a pound tariff on the product.