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And you walk in the street, and people are asking you whether you are still out. And when you say out of what? They say out of prison, you know. | and you walk in the street and people are asking you whether you are still, out and when you say out of what? they say out of prison you | And you walk in the. street and people are asking you whether you. are. still out And. when you say out of what? They. say. out of prison you | and you walk in the street, and people are asking you whether you are still out. and when you say out of what? they say out of prison, you know. |
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So it really became a kind of very painful, internal exile. I was inside my country. I was in my home, but I was like under house arrest, as it were. | so it really became a kind of very painful internal exile i was inside my country i was in my, home but i was like under house arrest as it | So it really became a kind of very, painful internal exile I was inside my country I was in my home, but I was like. under house arrest as it | so it really became a kind of very painful, internal exile. i was inside my country. i was in my home, but i was like under house arrest, as it were. |
And you left - initially you went to France, is that right? | and you left - initially you went to france is that, | And you left. - initially you went, to France is that | and you left - initially you went to france, is that right? |
Initially, I went to France, yes, where I stayed for three years. | initially i went to france yes where i stayed for three | Initially I went to France yes where I stayed for three | initially, i went to france, yes, where i stayed for three years. |
And how did that, then, influenced what you wrote about after you left? | and how did that then influenced what you wrote about after you | And. how did that then influenced what you wrote, about after you | and how did that, then, influenced what you wrote about after you left? |
Actually, I discovered that when I left - I had been traveling a lot throughout the world, but when you leave and you know that the possibility of coming back is not anywhere near, you have a different feeling from the feeling you would have if you were leaving for a few weeks and coming back. But a lot of things do ch... | actually i discovered that when i left - i had been traveling a lot throughout. the world but when, you leave and, you know that the possibility of. coming back is not anywhere near you have a different, feeling, from the feeling you would have if you were leaving for a few weeks and coming back. but a lot of, things d... | Actually I discovered that when I left. - I had been traveling, a lot throughout the world but when. you leave and you know that the possibility of coming back is not anywhere near you have a different feeling from the feeling you would have if you were leaving for a few weeks and coming back. But a lot of things do, c... | actually, i discovered that when i left - i had been traveling a lot throughout the world, but when you leave and you know that the possibility of coming back is not anywhere near, you have a different feeling from the feeling you would have if you were leaving for a few weeks and coming back. but a lot of things do ch... |
What do you mean? | what do you | What do you | what do you mean? |
You are looking at a right - always looking at the country or to -it's own motherland or fatherland from a distance. And then, like the lady was saying, there's certain things, when you're in the country which you actually take for granted. When you've left, you begin to hear even the sounds of birds, the rivers and th... | you are, looking at a right; - always, looking at the country or to -it's own motherland or fatherland from a distance and then like the lady was saying there's certain things; when you're, in the country which you actually take for granted. when you've left you, begin to hear even the sounds of birds the rivers and th... | You are looking at a; right - always looking at the country or to, -it's own motherland or fatherland from a. distance And then like the lady was saying there's certain things when you're in; the country; which you actually, take for granted When you've left you begin to, hear even the sounds of, birds the rivers and t... | you are looking at a right - always looking at the country or to -it's own motherland or fatherland from a distance. and then, like the lady was saying, there's certain things, when you're in the country which you actually take for granted. when you've left, you begin to hear even the sounds of birds, the rivers and th... |
Let's take a quick call here before our break. Louisa is in Norman, Oklahoma. Hi, Louisa. Hi, Louisa. Are you there? | let's take a quick call here before our break louisa is in; norman oklahoma hi louisa hi louisa are you | Let's take a quick call here; before, our break Louisa is in Norman Oklahoma Hi Louisa Hi Louisa Are you | let's take a quick call here before our break. louisa is in norman, oklahoma. hi, louisa. hi, louisa. are you there? |
Oh, yes. Hello. This is Louisa, calling from Norman. I'm from - originally from Guinea-Bissau and also been, you could say, in exile for three decades now. I've lived in Europe. I've lived in England, France, and I now live in the United States. I've been here for 20 years. And this past summer, I went back home. And m... | oh, yes hello. this is louisa calling from norman i'm from. - originally. from guinea-bissau and also been you could say in exile for three decades, now i've lived in; europe i've. lived in england france and i now live in the united states i've been, here for 20 years and this past summer i went back home and much. li... | Oh, yes Hello This is Louisa calling, from Norman, I'm from; - originally from Guinea-Bissau and, also been you could say in exile for three decades now I've lived in Europe, I've lived in England. France and I. now live, in the United. States. I've been here for 20 years And this past summer I went back home And much ... | oh, yes. hello. this is louisa, calling from norman. i'm from - originally from guinea-bissau and also been, you could say, in exile for three decades now. i've lived in europe. i've lived in england, france, and i now live in the united states. i've been here for 20 years. and this past summer, i went back home. and m... |
In our case, Guinea-Bissau went through a series of coup d'etats and military takeovers that have turned the country into - it's now basically a narcotic state. The Columbian narco-traffic has moved into Guinea-Bissau, so, you know, the possibility of me going back is not there. | in our case guinea-bissau went through a series of coup d'etats and military takeovers that have turned the country into - it's now, basically a narcotic state the columbian narco-traffic has moved into guinea-bissau so you know the possibility of me going back is not | In our case Guinea-Bissau went through a series of coup, d'etats and military takeovers that have turned the country. into - it's now basically; a narcotic state The Columbian narco-traffic has, moved into Guinea-Bissau so you know the possibility of me going back is not. | in our case, guinea-bissau went through a series of coup d'etats and military takeovers that have turned the country into - it's now basically a narcotic state. the columbian narco-traffic has moved into guinea-bissau, so, you know, the possibility of me going back is not there. |
But what I've found coming back to the United States is that it hasn't half my creativity. I'm also a journalist, was a broadcaster for 17 years myself. And I'm now working for RuMBA, which is a non-profit to help people living in rural areas access the Internet. So I'm doing something that I think is very, very positi... | but what i've found coming back to the united states is that it. hasn't half my creativity i'm also a journalist was a broadcaster for 17 years myself and i'm now working for rumba which is a non-profit to help people living in rural, areas access the internet; so i'm, doing something that i think. is, very very positi... | But what I've found coming back to the United States is. that it, hasn't. half my creativity I'm also a journalist was a broadcaster for 17 years myself And I'm now working for RuMBA, which is a non-profit to help, people living in rural areas access the, Internet So I'm, doing something that I think is very, very posi... | but what i've found coming back to the united states is that it hasn't half my creativity. i'm also a journalist, was a broadcaster for 17 years myself. and i'm now working for rumba, which is a non-profit to help people living in rural areas access the internet. so i'm doing something that i think is very, very positi... |
But, you know, what I wanted to add to the discussion is that, you know, what I've realized is that the world is but one country, and mankind its citizens. In fact, it was an Iranian prophet that coined that phrase, and I'm beginning to believe that we can make a home of the place we live in and we can all be very help... | but you know what i wanted to add to the discussion is that you know what i've realized is that the world is but one country and mankind its citizens in fact it was an iranian prophet that coined that phrase and i'm beginning to, believe that. we can make a, home of the place we, live in and we can all be very helpful ... | But you know. what I wanted; to add to the discussion is that you know what I've realized is that the world. is but one country and mankind. its citizens In, fact it was an Iranian prophet that coined that phrase and I'm beginning to believe that we can make. a home of the place we live in, and we can all be very helpf... | but, you know, what i wanted to add to the discussion is that, you know, what i've realized is that the world is but one country, and mankind its citizens. in fact, it was an iranian prophet that coined that phrase, and i'm beginning to believe that we can make a home of the place we live in and we can all be very help... |
Oh, right. Louisa, we've got to leave it there, but thank you so much for calling and sharing that. We'd like to hear from other writers and artists in our audience. If you've left your home country, how has it influenced your work? 800-989-8255. I'm Jennifer Ludden. It's TALK OF THE NATION, from NPR News. | oh right louisa we've got to; leave it there but thank you so much for calling and sharing that we'd like to hear from other writers and artists in, our audience if you've left your home country how, has it influenced your work? 800-989-8255. i'm jennifer ludden it's. talk of the nation from npr | Oh right. Louisa we've got to leave it there but thank you so much for calling and sharing that We'd like to hear from other writers and artists in our audience If you've left your home country how, has it influenced your work? 800-989-8255. I'm Jennifer Ludden It's TALK, OF, THE NATION from NPR | oh, right. louisa, we've got to leave it there, but thank you so much for calling and sharing that. we'd like to hear from other writers and artists in our audience. if you've left your home country, how has it influenced your work? 800-989-8255. i'm jennifer ludden. it's talk of the nation, from npr news. |
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This is TALK OF THE NATION, from NPR News. I'm Jennifer Ludden. | this is talk of the nation from npr news i'm, jennifer | This is TALK OF, THE NATION from NPR, News I'm Jennifer | this is talk of the nation, from npr news. i'm jennifer ludden. |
We're talking with writers today about living and writing in exile and how that experience changes them and their work. The idea came from the Miami Book Fair. They'll host more than 350 authors from around the world this week in downtown Miami. Many of them will discuss their own stories of living in exile. | we're talking with writers today about living and writing. in exile and how that experience, changes them. and their; work the idea came from the miami book fair they'll host more than 350 authors from around the. world this. week in downtown. miami many of them will discuss their own stories of living in | We're talking, with writers today about living and writing in exile and how that experience changes them and their, work The idea came from the Miami. Book Fair They'll host more than 350 authors from around the world this, week. in. downtown Miami Many of them will discuss their own stories of living in | we're talking with writers today about living and writing in exile and how that experience changes them and their work. the idea came from the miami book fair. they'll host more than 350 authors from around the world this week in downtown miami. many of them will discuss their own stories of living in exile. |
We'd like to hear from writers and artists in our audience today. If you've had to leave your home country, even if you're not in exile yourself, how has that influenced your work? Tell us your story. Our number in Washington is 800-989-8255. Our email address: talk@npr.org. And you can join the conversation at our web... | we'd. like to hear from writers and artists in our audience today if you've had, to leave your home country. even if you're not, in exile. yourself how has that influenced your work? tell, us your story. our number in. washington. is 800-989-8255. our email address: talk@npr.org and you can. join the conversation; at o... | We'd like to hear from writers, and artists in, our audience; today If you've had to leave your home country even if you're not in exile yourself how, has that influenced your work? Tell us your story Our number in Washington is, 800-989-8255. Our email, address: talk@npr.org And. you can join the conversation at, our ... | we'd like to hear from writers and artists in our audience today. if you've had to leave your home country, even if you're not in exile yourself, how has that influenced your work? tell us your story. our number in washington is 800-989-8255. our email address: talk@npr.org. and you can join the conversation at our web... |
Our guests are Azar Nafisi, author of "Reading Lolita in Tehran," and the forthcoming book "That Other World: Nabokov and the Puzzle of Exile," and Chenjerai Hove, novelist from Zimbabwe and currently writer-in-residence for Miami Day College's City of Refuge Program. | our guests are azar nafisi author of "reading lolita in tehran" and the forthcoming book "that other world: nabokov and the puzzle of exile" and chenjerai hove novelist from zimbabwe and currently writer-in-residence for miami day college's city of refuge | Our. guests are Azar Nafisi author of "Reading Lolita in Tehran" and. the forthcoming book "That Other World: Nabokov and the Puzzle of Exile" and Chenjerai Hove novelist from Zimbabwe, and currently writer-in-residence. for Miami Day College's City of Refuge | our guests are azar nafisi, author of "reading lolita in tehran," and the forthcoming book "that other world: nabokov and the puzzle of exile," and chenjerai hove, novelist from zimbabwe and currently writer-in-residence for miami day college's city of refuge program. |
It set my career back 10 years. Otherwise, I'm much more aware than I used to be. Was it worth it? Some days, yes. Others, no. Chenjerai Hove, was it hard to get go - was there a period when you just felt like things had just fallen apart for you creatively after leaving Zimbabwe? | it set my, career back 10 years otherwise. i'm much more aware than i used to be was it worth it? some days yes others no chenjerai hove was it hard to get go - was there a period when you just felt like things had just fallen apart for you creatively after. leaving | It set my career back. 10 years Otherwise I'm much more aware than I used to be Was it worth it? Some days yes. Others no, Chenjerai Hove was it hard to get go - was there a period when, you just felt like things, had just fallen apart for you. creatively after leaving | it set my career back 10 years. otherwise, i'm much more aware than i used to be. was it worth it? some days, yes. others, no. chenjerai hove, was it hard to get go - was there a period when you just felt like things had just fallen apart for you creatively after leaving zimbabwe? |
No, no. Not at all. Not at all. I actually was able to look at my country from a distance, and it give me a lot of creative energy and a lot of thinking to do about certain things which I'd taken for granted about my country. That's actually when I began to realize how beautiful my country was. | no no not at all not at all i actually was able to look at my country from a distance and it give me a lot of creative, energy and a lot of thinking to do about certain things, which i'd taken for granted about my country that's actually when, i began. to realize how beautiful my country | No no Not, at all Not at, all I actually was able to look at my country from a distance and it give. me a lot; of creative energy and a lot of thinking to do about certain things which I'd taken for granted about my country That's actually when I began to realize how; beautiful my. country | no, no. not at all. not at all. i actually was able to look at my country from a distance, and it give me a lot of creative energy and a lot of thinking to do about certain things which i'd taken for granted about my country. that's actually when i began to realize how beautiful my country was. |
Huh. That's nice. Let's go to a caller, Sayeed(ph) in San Jose, California. Go right ahead. | huh that's nice let's go to a caller sayeed(ph) in san, jose california. go right | Huh That's nice Let's go to a caller Sayeed(ph) in San Jose California Go; right. | huh. that's nice. let's go to a caller, sayeed(ph) in san jose, california. go right ahead. |
Thank you. | thank, | Thank | thank you. |
Hi. Thank you for taking my call. I have a question to ask Miss Nafisi, and I understand that she has been going through a lot of the experiences that I had to go through as an immigrant who came to this country about 30 years ago, and have... | hi thank you for taking my call i, have a question to, ask miss nafisi and i understand that she. has been going through a lot of the experiences that i had to go through as an immigrant who came to this country. about 30 years ago and | Hi Thank, you for. taking my call I have a question to. ask. Miss Nafisi and I understand that she has been going through a lot of the. experiences that I had to go through as an immigrant who came to this, country. about 30 years ago and, | hi. thank you for taking my call. i have a question to ask miss nafisi, and i understand that she has been going through a lot of the experiences that i had to go through as an immigrant who came to this country about 30 years ago, and have... |
And also from Iran, is that right? | and also from iran is that | And also, from Iran is that | and also from iran, is that right? |
Yes, from Iran. That's right. And I had to witness raising my kids in Americanized manner, but knowing that they're living here in a different culture. And I had to assimilate and adapt, as well. And so the question was always raised at dinnertime: Are you Iranian? The answer to which was yes, of course. Then what do w... | yes from iran that's right and i had to witness raising my kids in americanized manner but knowing that they're; living here in a different culture and i had to assimilate and adapt as well and so the, question was always raised at dinnertime: are, you iranian? the answer to which was yes of course then what do we; do ... | Yes, from Iran That's right And I had to witness raising my kids; in Americanized manner but knowing that they're living here. in a different culture And I had to assimilate and adapt, as well, And so the question was always raised at dinnertime: Are you, Iranian? The answer to which was, yes of course Then, what do we... | yes, from iran. that's right. and i had to witness raising my kids in americanized manner, but knowing that they're living here in a different culture. and i had to assimilate and adapt, as well. and so the question was always raised at dinnertime: are you iranian? the answer to which was yes, of course. then what do w... |
Meanwhile, daughter and son - and Fabio(ph) my son, they both asked me. They were in - like six and 10-year-old then, and one of them was born here. And I really didn't know what to say, exactly, so I had to read some books then, which were, unfortunately, they couldn't understand. I had to read some really long storie... | meanwhile daughter and son - and fabio(ph) my son they both asked me they were in - like six and 10-year-old then and one of them was born here and i; really didn't know what to say exactly so i had to read some books then which were unfortunately they couldn't understand i had to read some really long stories in engli... | Meanwhile daughter and. son. - and Fabio(ph) my son they both asked me They were in - like six and, 10-year-old then and one of them was, born here, And I really didn't know what to say exactly so I had. to read some books then which. were unfortunately they, couldn't understand I had to read some really long stories i... | meanwhile, daughter and son - and fabio(ph) my son, they both asked me. they were in - like six and 10-year-old then, and one of them was born here. and i really didn't know what to say, exactly, so i had to read some books then, which were, unfortunately, they couldn't understand. i had to read some really long storie... |
And so that was one major problem I had here as an Iranian parent and (unintelligible) living here and trying to help our kids not to feel like they're being, you know, developed and raised in an unrealistic and hypocritical kind of a way. And our cultures being different, we could always be the best of both. So that's... | and. so that was one major problem i had, here, as an. iranian parent and (unintelligible) living here and trying to help our kids, not to feel like they're being you know developed and raised in an unrealistic and hypocritical kind of a way and, our cultures being different we could always be the best of both so that'... | And. so that was one major, problem I had here as an Iranian. parent; and (unintelligible) living here and trying to help our. kids not to feel like, they're being you know; developed and raised in an unrealistic and hypocritical kind, of a way And our cultures, being different we could always be the best of both So th... | and so that was one major problem i had here as an iranian parent and (unintelligible) living here and trying to help our kids not to feel like they're being, you know, developed and raised in an unrealistic and hypocritical kind of a way. and our cultures being different, we could always be the best of both. so that's... |
So you've written your own book, Sayeed. | so you've written your own book | So you've written your own book | so you've written your own book, sayeed. |
Yes. I wrote the history - 7,000 years history Iran in a concise form in English for - yeah. | yes i wrote the history - 7,000 years history iran in a concise form, in english for | Yes I wrote, the history - 7,000 years history Iran in a concise form in English for | yes. i wrote the history - 7,000 years history iran in a concise form in english for - yeah. |
Wow. | wow. | ||
And I wrote(ph) 123 books to myself to be able to start doing that. I don't call myself a historian, but I have to do it because there was no English version available that could be understandable in a short form for our youngsters, the young American generation here. And that book is now available. It's a compact(ph) ... | and i wrote(ph) 123 books to myself to be able to start doing that i don't call myself a. historian but i have to do it because, there was no english version available that could be understandable in a short form for our youngsters, the young american generation here and that book is now available it's a compact(ph) hi... | And I wrote(ph) 123 books to myself to be able to start doing, that I. don't call myself a historian but I have to do it because there, was no English version available that could be understandable in a short form for. our youngsters the young American generation here And that book is now available It's a compact(ph) h... | and i wrote(ph) 123 books to myself to be able to start doing that. i don't call myself a historian, but i have to do it because there was no english version available that could be understandable in a short form for our youngsters, the young american generation here. and that book is now available. it's a compact(ph) ... |
I'm glad that people like Miss Nafisi - by the way, my wife's name, who helped me write that book, is on there, as well. I'm happy to see ladies here, Iranian ladies, come here - and some of them are single parents. Single-handedly, they raise families, and they create a bridge between the past and the future. I'm prou... | i'm glad that, people like, miss nafisi - by the way my wife's name who helped, me write that book is on there as well i'm happy to see ladies here iranian ladies come here - and some. of them. are single parents single-handedly they raise families and they. create a bridge between the past and the future. i'm proud of... | I'm. glad that people like Miss Nafisi - by the way my wife's, name who helped me, write that book is on there as well I'm happy to see ladies here. Iranian ladies come here, - and some of them are single parents Single-handedly they raise families and they create a bridge between the past and the future I'm proud of p... | i'm glad that people like miss nafisi - by the way, my wife's name, who helped me write that book, is on there, as well. i'm happy to see ladies here, iranian ladies, come here - and some of them are single parents. single-handedly, they raise families, and they create a bridge between the past and the future. i'm prou... |
I just wanted to ask Miss Nafisi if - does she particularly have a hope that experiences that she had gone through where people like me can anyway be introduced to the Iranian people, the younger people there who have no idea what an immigrant has to go through in any place, under any circumstances. And has she been do... | i just wanted to ask, miss nafisi if - does she; particularly, have a hope that experiences that she had gone through where people like, me can anyway, be introduced to the iranian people the younger people there who have no idea what an immigrant has to go through. in any place under any circumstances. and has she bee... | I just wanted to ask Miss Nafisi if - does she particularly have a hope that experiences. that she had gone through where people like me can anyway be introduced to the Iranian people the younger people there who have no idea what an immigrant has to go through in any place, under any circumstances And has she, been do... | i just wanted to ask miss nafisi if - does she particularly have a hope that experiences that she had gone through where people like me can anyway be introduced to the iranian people, the younger people there who have no idea what an immigrant has to go through in any place, under any circumstances. and has she been do... |
Thank you, Sayeed. And we'll put that to you, Azar Nafisi. | thank you sayeed and we'll put. that to you azar | Thank you Sayeed, And we'll put. that to you Azar | thank you, sayeed. and we'll put that to you, azar nafisi. |
Thank you very much, Saitwan(ph). I very much enjoyed hearing your voice and look forward to reading you. I do understand the dilemma that you're talking about. Of course, one good thing about living in this country is that you can carry your past with you. And I was very happy to know that I'm not just an American, bu... | thank you very. much saitwan(ph). i very much enjoyed hearing your voice and look forward to reading you i do understand the dilemma that you're talking about of course one good, thing about living in this country is that. you can carry your past with you and i. was very happy to know that i'm not just an american but ... | Thank you very much Saitwan(ph). I very much. enjoyed hearing your, voice and look forward to, reading you I do understand the dilemma that you're talking about, Of course one good thing about living in. this country is that. you can carry your past with you And I was very. happy to know that I'm not just an American, ... | thank you very much, saitwan(ph). i very much enjoyed hearing your voice and look forward to reading you. i do understand the dilemma that you're talking about. of course, one good thing about living in this country is that you can carry your past with you. and i was very happy to know that i'm not just an american, bu... |
So as an Iranian-American, your history of Iran will not only be useful to Iranians, but it will also be useful to the new - to the country you've adopted. But I wanted to tell you that one of the - I always think, whenever I feel homesick, of what the Germans thinker Theodor Adorno said, that the highest form of moral... | so. as an iranian-american your history of iran. will not only be useful to iranians but it will also be useful to the new - to the, country you've adopted but i. wanted to, tell you that one. of the - i always think whenever; i feel homesick of. what the germans thinker theodor adorno said that the highest form of mor... | So as an Iranian-American your history of Iran will not only be useful to Iranians but it will also be useful to, the, new - to the country you've adopted, But I wanted to tell you that one of the - I always think, whenever I feel homesick. of what the Germans thinker Theodor Adorno said that the highest form of morali... | so as an iranian-american, your history of iran will not only be useful to iranians, but it will also be useful to the new - to the country you've adopted. but i wanted to tell you that one of the - i always think, whenever i feel homesick, of what the germans thinker theodor adorno said, that the highest form of moral... |
The Islam that the regime talked about was not the Islam of my grandparents or the Islam of my parents. So I had to genuinely ask myself: Who is telling the truth? Am I really not Iranian? Was I not born in a Muslim family? And like you, then I had to excavate the past and investigate my own past, and through the past ... | the islam that the regime talked about; was not the islam of my grandparents or the islam of my parents so i had to genuinely ask myself: who is telling the truth? am i really not iranian? was i not born in a muslim family? and like you then i had. to; excavate the past and investigate my own past and through the past ... | The Islam that the regime talked about, was; not the Islam of my, grandparents or the Islam of my parents So. I, had to genuinely ask myself: Who is telling, the. truth? Am I really not Iranian? Was I not born in a Muslim family? And like you then I had. to excavate the past and investigate my own past and through the ... | the islam that the regime talked about was not the islam of my grandparents or the islam of my parents. so i had to genuinely ask myself: who is telling the truth? am i really not iranian? was i not born in a muslim family? and like you, then i had to excavate the past and investigate my own past, and through the past ... |
And when I was there, whenever the regime talked about the U.S. being decadent and imperialist, the country that I knew so much about and that had accepted me so well, I would connect to my own people again through Saul Bellow and Emily Dickinson and Zora Neale Hurston. So literature became a vehicle through which I co... | and when i was. there whenever, the regime talked about the u.s being decadent and imperialist the country that i knew so much about and that had accepted me so well i would connect to my own people again through saul bellow and emily dickinson and zora neale hurston so literature became a vehicle through which i could... | And when I was there whenever the regime talked, about, the U.S being decadent and imperialist the country that I knew so much about and that had accepted me so well I would connect to my own people again through Saul Bellow and Emily Dickinson and, Zora Neale, Hurston So literature became, a; vehicle through which I c... | and when i was there, whenever the regime talked about the u.s. being decadent and imperialist, the country that i knew so much about and that had accepted me so well, i would connect to my own people again through saul bellow and emily dickinson and zora neale hurston. so literature became a vehicle through which i co... |
Iran is Iran of its great poets. It is of its great philosophers. It's of its great culture. And so I think wherever we go, the absence brings to us new challenges, and challenge is what keeps us alive. | iran is iran of its great poets it is, of its; great philosophers it's of its great culture and so i think, wherever we go the absence brings to us new challenges and challenge is what, keeps us | Iran is Iran of its. great poets It is of its great philosophers It's of its great culture. And so I think wherever we go the absence. brings to. us new challenges and challenge is what keeps us | iran is iran of its great poets. it is of its great philosophers. it's of its great culture. and so i think wherever we go, the absence brings to us new challenges, and challenge is what keeps us alive. |
All right. We have another - one last writer we're going to bring into the conversation now. Edwidge Danticat was born in Haiti and came to the United States when she was 12 years old. She's the author of several books that draw heavily upon life in Haiti, including "Breath, Eyes, Memory" and the American book award-wi... | all right we have another - one last writer we're going. to bring into the conversation now edwidge danticat was born in haiti and came to the united states when she was 12 years old she's the author of several books that draw heavily upon. life. in haiti including "breath, eyes memory" and the american book award-winn... | All right We have another - one last writer we're going to bring into the conversation now Edwidge Danticat was born in Haiti and came to the United States when she, was; 12 years old She's the author of several. books that draw heavily, upon life in Haiti including "Breath, Eyes Memory" and. the American book award-wi... | all right. we have another - one last writer we're going to bring into the conversation now. edwidge danticat was born in haiti and came to the united states when she was 12 years old. she's the author of several books that draw heavily upon life in haiti, including "breath, eyes, memory" and the american book award-wi... |
Welcome to you. | welcome to | Welcome to | welcome to you. |
Thank you. Thank you for having me. | thank you thank you for having | Thank you Thank you. for having | thank you. thank you for having me. |
Now, you consider yourself an immigrant, not an exile. What's the distinction for you? | now you consider yourself an immigrant not. an exile what's the distinction for | Now you consider yourself an immigrant not an exile What's the distinction for | now, you consider yourself an immigrant, not an exile. what's the distinction for you? |
Well, I am probably the child of, you know, of that exile generation for my particular group of people, for the - for Haitian-Americans. So I am what exiles perhaps eventually become or what their children become, as the gentleman was talking about earlier. And in exile, I'm able to go back to Haiti, and I have been ab... | well i am probably the child of you know of that exile generation for my particular, group of people for the - for haitian-americans so i am what exiles perhaps eventually become or what their children become as the gentleman was talking about earlier and, in exile i'm able to go back to haiti and i have been able to f... | Well I am probably the child of you, know of that exile generation. for my particular group of people, for the - for Haitian-Americans So I am what exiles perhaps eventually become or what their children become as the. gentleman was talking about earlier And in. exile I'm able to; go back to Haiti and I, have been able... | well, i am probably the child of, you know, of that exile generation for my particular group of people, for the - for haitian-americans. so i am what exiles perhaps eventually become or what their children become, as the gentleman was talking about earlier. and in exile, i'm able to go back to haiti, and i have been ab... |
But you have written about artists creating art while exiled from their home countries, or at least severely separated from them when their homelands are experiencing a time of crisis. How did you find that this separation informs their work? | but you have written about artists creating art while exiled from their home countries or at least, severely separated from them when their homelands are experiencing a time of crisis how did you find that this separation informs their | But you have written about artists creating art while; exiled from. their home countries. or at least severely separated from them, when their homelands are experiencing a time of crisis, How, did you find that this separation, informs their | but you have written about artists creating art while exiled from their home countries, or at least severely separated from them when their homelands are experiencing a time of crisis. how did you find that this separation informs their work? |
I keep reading about string theory. | i. keep reading about string | I keep reading about string, | i keep reading about string theory. |
Well, these are not the first critics of string theory. | well these are not the first critics of string | Well these are not the, first critics of string | well, these are not the first critics of string theory. |
Good. An important person, informally. | good an important person | Good An important person | good. an important person, informally. |
Well, I think for, you know, a lot of us who, as I mentioned, you know, come out - comes out of this generation, that before - my parents generation, for example, considered themselves sort of in wait here. They were - they came here during the Duvalier dictatorship in the '70s. And through the '80s, they perhaps envis... | well i think for you know a lot. of us who. as i, mentioned. you know come out - comes out of this generation that before - my parents generation for example considered themselves sort of in wait here they, were. - they came here during the duvalier dictatorship in the '70s and through the '80s they perhaps envisioned ... | Well I. think for you know a lot of us who as I mentioned, you know come out - comes out of this; generation; that, before - my parents generation for. example considered themselves sort of in wait. here They. were - they came here during the Duvalier. dictatorship in the '70s And through the '80s they. perhaps envisio... | well, i think for, you know, a lot of us who, as i mentioned, you know, come out - comes out of this generation, that before - my parents generation, for example, considered themselves sort of in wait here. they were - they came here during the duvalier dictatorship in the '70s. and through the '80s, they perhaps envis... |
And it's the same for the artist. And some of them - now, there's this possibility that some have to go back and forth. There's also this thing in this conversation about exile and immigration that's called transnationalism, and that especially if you live in a place like Miami, I can be in Port-au-Prince quicker that ... | and. it's the same for the artist and some of them, - now there's; this possibility that, some have to go back and forth there's also this thing in this conversation about exile and. immigration that's, called transnationalism and that especially if you live in a place like miami i can be in port-au-prince quicker that... | And it's the same for the artist And some of them - now there's this possibility that some have to go back. and forth There's also this thing in this conversation about exile and. immigration that's called transnationalism. and that especially if you live in a place like Miami I can be in Port-au-Prince quicker that I ... | and it's the same for the artist. and some of them - now, there's this possibility that some have to go back and forth. there's also this thing in this conversation about exile and immigration that's called transnationalism, and that especially if you live in a place like miami, i can be in port-au-prince quicker that ... |
And gives you, as we've been hearing, that unique outlook on both places. | and gives you as. we've, been, hearing. that unique outlook on both | And gives you as we've been hearing that unique, outlook on both | and gives you, as we've been hearing, that unique outlook on both places. |
Yes. What I think of as a mixed gaze, because you are looking at the United States as a with Haitian eyes and that you're looking at Haiti with American eyes. And so there's a kind of - something in between that's perhaps sometimes personally uncomfortable, but I think it's rich terrain for art. | yes what i think of as a mixed gaze because you are looking at the, united states as a with haitian, eyes and that you're looking at haiti, with american eyes and, so there's a kind of - something in between that's perhaps sometimes personally uncomfortable but i think it's rich terrain, for | Yes What I think of as, a mixed, gaze because you are looking at the. United States as, a with Haitian eyes and that you're looking at Haiti with American eyes And so there's, a kind of - something in between, that's perhaps sometimes personally uncomfortable but I, think it's rich terrain for | yes. what i think of as a mixed gaze, because you are looking at the united states as a with haitian eyes and that you're looking at haiti with american eyes. and so there's a kind of - something in between that's perhaps sometimes personally uncomfortable, but i think it's rich terrain for art. |
All right. Let's get another caller on the line. Sukomar(ph) is in Folsom, California. Hi, there. | all right let's, get another, caller on the line sukomar(ph) is in folsom, california hi | All right Let's, get another caller on the line Sukomar(ph) is in Folsom California Hi | all right. let's get another caller on the line. sukomar(ph) is in folsom, california. hi, there. |
Hi. Thank you taking my call. I just very interesting discussion. I just wanted to make one comment. I'm an engineer by profession, but I've been writing for a long time because my parents have. And I write in my native language from Kanada which is a very, very big language in south India. I've been in the United Sta... | hi thank you taking my call i just very interesting discussion i just wanted to. make, one comment i'm an engineer by profession but i've been writing for a long time. because my parents have. and i, write in my native language from kanada which is a very very big language in south india i've, been in the united state... | Hi Thank you, taking my call I just very interesting discussion I just wanted to make, one comment I'm an, engineer by profession but I've been writing for a long time; because my parents have And, I write in my native language from Kanada which is a very very big language, in south India I've been in. the United Stat... | hi. thank you taking my call. i just very interesting discussion. i just wanted to make one comment. i'm an engineer by profession, but i've been writing for a long time because my parents have. and i write in my native language from kanada which is a very, very big language in south india. i've been in the united sta... |
The key point, though, is it's been so long since I've come here and I've kind of adjusted to life here. But even today, when I write either in Kanada or in English, what happens is I go back to my youth and my childhood, and every single poem or short story I write is from my past. However much I want to try and write... | the key point though is it's, been so long since i've come here, and i've kind of adjusted to life here but even today when i. write either in kanada or in, english, what happens is i go back to my youth and my childhood and every single poem or short story i write; is; from my past however much i want to try and write... | The key point though is it's been, so long since I've come here and I've kind of adjusted to life here But even today when I write either in Kanada or in English what happens is I go back to my youth and my childhood and every single poem or short. story I write is from my past However much I want to try and write toda... | the key point, though, is it's been so long since i've come here and i've kind of adjusted to life here. but even today, when i write either in kanada or in english, what happens is i go back to my youth and my childhood, and every single poem or short story i write is from my past. however much i want to try and write... |
And do you think if you wrote in English, it might be different? | and do you think if you wrote in, english, it might be | And do you think. if you wrote in English it might be | and do you think if you wrote in english, it might be different? |
No. I actually am trying to write something different in English. But when I actually try to write in English, it just goes back to my stories from India of my teenage years and my childhood years. It's all different stories, but it's all from my past. So it's kind, you know, it's ingrained and it's really hard to chan... | no i actually am trying to write something different in english but when i actually try to write in english it just. goes, back to my stories from india of my, teenage, years and my childhood years it's all different stories but it's all from my past so it's kind you know it's ingrained and it's really hard to change | No I actually am trying to write something different in English But when I actually, try to write in English, it just goes back to. my stories from India of my teenage years. and my childhood years It's all different stories but it's all from, my past So it's, kind you know it's ingrained, and it's really hard to, chan... | no. i actually am trying to write something different in english. but when i actually try to write in english, it just goes back to my stories from india of my teenage years and my childhood years. it's all different stories, but it's all from my past. so it's kind, you know, it's ingrained and it's really hard to chan... |
Huh. Well, thank you for sharing that with us. | huh well thank you for sharing that with | Huh Well thank you for sharing that with | huh. well, thank you for sharing that with us. |
Thank you so much for taking the call. | thank you so much; for taking the, | Thank you. so much for taking the | thank you so much for taking the call. |
Chenjerai Hove, do you feel that you left it's been nine years since you left Zimbabwe. Are your stories still set in that time? Or could you write something in modern day Zimbabwe, do you feel? | chenjerai hove, do you feel that you left it's been nine years, since you left, zimbabwe are your stories still set in that time? or could you write something in modern day, zimbabwe do you | Chenjerai Hove do you feel that you left it's been, nine years since you left Zimbabwe Are your stories still set in that time? Or could you write something, in modern day Zimbabwe do you | chenjerai hove, do you feel that you left it's been nine years since you left zimbabwe. are your stories still set in that time? or could you write something in modern day zimbabwe, do you feel? |
Oh, yes. I have just finished writing a novel called "Others." It's about the violence which we have allowed to infiltrate our politics. And also, an anthology of poetry called "Love and Other Ghosts." And the more I write, the more I actually am able to feel the coarseness or the smoothness and softness of the land of... | oh yes i have just. finished writing a novel called. "others" it's about the violence, which we have allowed to infiltrate our politics and also an anthology of poetry called "love and other ghosts" and the more i write the more i actually am able to feel the coarseness or the smoothness and softness of the land of my ... | Oh yes I have just finished writing a novel called, "Others" It's about the violence which we have allowed to infiltrate our politics And also. an anthology. of poetry called "Love and Other Ghosts" And the more I write the more, I actually am. able to feel, the coarseness or. the smoothness and softness of the land of... | oh, yes. i have just finished writing a novel called "others." it's about the violence which we have allowed to infiltrate our politics. and also, an anthology of poetry called "love and other ghosts." and the more i write, the more i actually am able to feel the coarseness or the smoothness and softness of the land of... |
And one has to realize that as a writer, for me to write is always - even when I was in the country, sometime I was writing about my aspirations and I put characters in a future Zimbabwe somewhere and let them deal with certain issues in a certain way. So one is always looking for these possibilities being possibilitie... | and one, has to realize that as a writer. for me to write is always - even when i was in the. country sometime i, was writing about my aspirations and i put characters. in a future zimbabwe somewhere and let them deal with certain issues in a, certain way, so one, is always looking for these possibilities being possibi... | And one, has to realize that as a writer for me to write is always - even when I was in the country sometime I was writing about my aspirations and I put, characters in a future Zimbabwe; somewhere and. let. them deal with certain issues in a certain way So one is always looking for these possibilities being possibilit... | and one has to realize that as a writer, for me to write is always - even when i was in the country, sometime i was writing about my aspirations and i put characters in a future zimbabwe somewhere and let them deal with certain issues in a certain way. so one is always looking for these possibilities being possibilitie... |
All right. Let me just mention, you're listening to TALK OF THE NATION from NPR News. | all right, let me just mention you're listening, to talk. of the nation from npr | All right Let, me just mention you're listening to TALK OF THE NATION from, NPR | all right. let me just mention, you're listening to talk of the nation from npr news. |
And let's take another call. Mahnoz(ph) is in San Francisco, California. Go right ahead. | and let's take; another call mahnoz(ph) is in. san francisco california go right | And let's take another call Mahnoz(ph) is in San Francisco California Go right | and let's take another call. mahnoz(ph) is in san francisco, california. go right ahead. |
Oh, hi. My name is Mahnoz Badician(ph) and I'm Iranian-American like Azar Nafisi. And I just want to tell you that it is to be in exile and live in a country that you didn't grow up with is such a dramatic experience. You actually become two person. One person that - you belong to other, your original country, and then... | oh hi my name, is mahnoz badician(ph) and i'm iranian-american. like azar nafisi and i, just want to tell you that it is to be in exile and live in a country that you didn't. grow up with is such a dramatic experience you actually become two person; one person that - you belong to other your original country and then t... | Oh hi My name. is Mahnoz, Badician(ph) and I'm Iranian-American like Azar Nafisi And I just want to tell you that it. is to be in exile and live in a, country that you didn't grow up, with is such a dramatic experience, You actually become, two. person, One person that - you belong to other your original country and th... | oh, hi. my name is mahnoz badician(ph) and i'm iranian-american like azar nafisi. and i just want to tell you that it is to be in exile and live in a country that you didn't grow up with is such a dramatic experience. you actually become two person. one person that - you belong to other, your original country, and then... |
And I also although I lived in this country more than half of my life, but still, always with my poetry, with my writing, I'm trying to bridge the gap between these two person inside me, or bridge the gap between the two cultures that I'm dealing with every day. And that's a very, very amazing experience that I, you k... | and i also although i lived, in this. country more than half of my life but still always with my poetry with my writing, i'm, trying to bridge the gap between these two person, inside me or bridge the, gap between the two cultures. that i'm dealing with, every day and that's a very very amazing experience that i you k... | And I also although I lived in this country more, than half of my. life. but still always with my poetry with my writing I'm, trying to bridge the gap between these two person inside me or bridge the gap between the two cultures that I'm, dealing with every day And that's a very very amazing experience that I you know... | and i also although i lived in this country more than half of my life, but still, always with my poetry, with my writing, i'm trying to bridge the gap between these two person inside me, or bridge the gap between the two cultures that i'm dealing with every day. and that's a very, very amazing experience that i, you k... |
All right. Well, thank you so much and I appreciate your call. And let's take one more here. I'm going to get your name wrong. Rahja(ph) in Seattle, Washington. | all right well thank you so much and i appreciate your call and let's take one more here i'm going to, get your name wrong rahja(ph) in seattle | All right Well thank you so much and I appreciate your call And; let's take one more here I'm going to get your name wrong Rahja(ph) in Seattle | all right. well, thank you so much and i appreciate your call. and let's take one more here. i'm going to get your name wrong. rahja(ph) in seattle, washington. |
Yes, hello. Thank you very much for taking my call. Yes, my name is Rahja Harbie(ph). I reside in Seattle, Washington. I'm a published author and artist working out of Seattle. But I travel and I still work internationally as well and read internationally. | yes hello thank you very much; for taking, my call yes my name is rahja harbie(ph). i reside in seattle washington i'm a. published author, and artist working out of. seattle but i travel; and i still work internationally; as well and read | Yes hello Thank you very much for taking my call Yes my name is. Rahja Harbie(ph). I reside, in Seattle Washington. I'm a, published author, and artist working. out of Seattle But I, travel and I still work internationally as well and read | yes, hello. thank you very much for taking my call. yes, my name is rahja harbie(ph). i reside in seattle, washington. i'm a published author and artist working out of seattle. but i travel and i still work internationally as well and read internationally. |
What I would like to add to the conversation is just the observation - I've been in the United States for well over 20 years, perhaps 35. It is the fact that I, as a person, as an artist and a writer, I quite often come across a reaction to - not a reaction to my work, but I oftentimes finds that there are, including i... | what i would like to add to the conversation is just the observation - i've been in the united states for well. over 20 years perhaps 35. it is the fact that i as a person as an, artist and a writer i quite often come across a reaction to - not a reaction to my work but i; oftentimes finds that there. are including in ... | What I would like to add, to the conversation is just the observation - I've been in the United States for well over 20 years perhaps, 35. It is the fact that I as a person as an artist and a writer I quite often come across a reaction to - not a reaction to my work but I oftentimes finds that there are including in so... | what i would like to add to the conversation is just the observation - i've been in the united states for well over 20 years, perhaps 35. it is the fact that i, as a person, as an artist and a writer, i quite often come across a reaction to - not a reaction to my work, but i oftentimes finds that there are, including i... |
Do you think that if more Silicon Valley engineers turned toward the automotive industry, things might change? | do you think that if more silicon valley engineers turned toward the automotive industry things might | Do you think that, if more Silicon Valley engineers. turned toward the automotive industry things might | do you think that if more silicon valley engineers turned toward the automotive industry, things might change? |
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And I must admit that, for instance reviewers and critics have more difficulty sometimes writing review of my work in paintings than they do in poetry because, obviously, the word is more accessible. And I think it's because the there is an expectation which I think is really done at the detriment of cultural indivi... | and i must admit that for, instance reviewers and critics; have more difficulty sometimes writing review of. my work in paintings than they do in poetry because obviously the word, is more accessible and i think it's because the there is an expectation which i think is really. done at the detriment of cultural. indi... | And I must admit that, for instance reviewers and critics. have more difficulty sometimes writing, review of my work in paintings than they do in poetry because obviously the word is more accessible And. I think it's because the. there is an expectation which I think, is really done at the detriment of cultural indi... | and i must admit that, for instance reviewers and critics have more difficulty sometimes writing review of my work in paintings than they do in poetry because, obviously, the word is more accessible. and i think it's because the there is an expectation which i think is really done at the detriment of cultural indivi... |
Because you have come from a different country, is that what you're saying? | because you have come from a different country is that; what you're | Because you have come. from a different, country, is that what you're | because you have come from a different country, is that what you're saying? |
Well, they expect that we you that you're going to that your work is going to be informed mostly by, for instance, the experience of an exile caused by very visible political reasons, such as political... | well they expect, that we, you that you're. going to that your work is going to be informed mostly by for instance, the experience of an exile caused by very visible, political reasons such as | Well they expect. that we you that you're going to that your work is going to be informed mostly by for instance. the experience of an exile caused by very visible political reasons such as | well, they expect that we you that you're going to that your work is going to be informed mostly by, for instance, the experience of an exile caused by very visible political reasons, such as political... |
And you're we've just a few seconds left here until the break. But you're saying that's not necessarily so? Is that what you're saying? | and you're we've just a few seconds left here. until the break but you're saying that's not necessarily so? is that what you're | And you're we've. just a few seconds left here until the break But you're saying that's not necessarily so? Is that what you're | and you're we've just a few seconds left here until the break. but you're saying that's not necessarily so? is that what you're saying? |
I'm saying it's more complex than that. There is, - I think every biculturalism is very often just like in the throughout the conversation that we that I'm listening to, biculturalism seems to be the focus. And I'm saying there is multiculturalism in each one individual artist. Our work is very often informed by love... | i'm saying it's more complex than that there is - i think every biculturalism is very often just like in the throughout the. conversation that we, that i'm listening to biculturalism seems to be the focus and i'm saying there is multiculturalism in each one individual artist our work is very often informed, by love o... | I'm saying it's more complex than that There is - I think every biculturalism is very often just like in the throughout the conversation that we that I'm listening to biculturalism seems to be the focus And I'm saying there is multiculturalism in each one individual artist Our work is very, often informed by love of ... | i'm saying it's more complex than that. there is, - i think every biculturalism is very often just like in the throughout the conversation that we that i'm listening to, biculturalism seems to be the focus. and i'm saying there is multiculturalism in each one individual artist. our work is very often informed by love... |
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I mean, there's so much in what we I mean, we didn't use... | i; mean there's so much in what we i mean we didn't | I mean there's so much in what we I mean we didn't | i mean, there's so much in what we i mean, we didn't use... |
Rahja, we've got to leave it there. But we thank you so very much for the call. We're talking about the literature of exiles. We're joined by Azar Nafisi, Chenjerai Hove and Edwidge Danticat. And they'll be back with us in just a moment. | rahja we've got to leave it. there but we thank you so very much for the call we're, talking about the literature of, exiles we're joined by azar nafisi chenjerai hove and edwidge danticat and, they'll be back with us in just. a | Rahja we've got to leave it there But we. thank you so very much for the call; We're. talking about the literature of exiles We're joined by Azar Nafisi Chenjerai Hove and Edwidge, Danticat And they'll, be back with us in just a. | rahja, we've got to leave it there. but we thank you so very much for the call. we're talking about the literature of exiles. we're joined by azar nafisi, chenjerai hove and edwidge danticat. and they'll be back with us in just a moment. |
talk@npr.org. I'm Jennifer Ludden. It's TALK OF THE NATION from NPR News. | talk@npr.org i'm jennifer ludden it's talk. of the nation from npr | talk@npr.org I'm Jennifer Ludden It's TALK OF THE NATION from NPR | talk@npr.org. i'm jennifer ludden. it's talk of the nation from npr news. |
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We'll get to the top overused words of the year in a moment. Right now, we're wrapping up our conversation about writers in exile. Azar Nafisi is with us. She's author of a number of books, including "Reading Lolita in Tehran." Also, Edwidge Danticat, her new book is titled "Create Dangerously: The Immigrant Artist at ... | we'll get to, the, top overused words of, the year in a moment right now we're wrapping up our conversation about writers in exile azar nafisi is with. us she's, author of a number of books including "reading lolita in tehran" also edwidge danticat her. new book, is titled "create dangerously: the immigrant artist at w... | We'll get to. the. top overused words of the year in a moment Right now we're wrapping up our conversation about writers in exile Azar Nafisi is with us She's author, of a number of books including "Reading. Lolita, in Tehran" Also Edwidge Danticat her new book is titled "Create. Dangerously: The Immigrant Artist at Wo... | we'll get to the top overused words of the year in a moment. right now, we're wrapping up our conversation about writers in exile. azar nafisi is with us. she's author of a number of books, including "reading lolita in tehran." also, edwidge danticat, her new book is titled "create dangerously: the immigrant artist at ... |
Let's get one more call in. Jay is in Ottorbach(ph), Germany. Hello, there. | let's get one more call in jay is. in ottorbach(ph), germany hello | Let's get one more call in Jay is in Ottorbach(ph), Germany Hello | let's get one more call in. jay is in ottorbach(ph), germany. hello, there. |
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Yeah. I'm in sort of a different situation. I'm kind I'm actually recently retired from the air force. And I was a professor in English at the air force academy. And I chose sort of to put myself in a year-long exile to write. And, cause I find that it's that distance that gives you kind of a perspective on some of th... | yeah. i'm in sort of a different situation i'm kind i'm actually recently retired from the air force and i was, a professor in english at the air force academy and i chose sort. of to put myself in a year-long exile to write and cause i find that, it's that distance that gives, you kind of a perspective on some of the... | Yeah I'm. in sort of a different; situation I'm kind I'm actually recently retired, from the air force And I was, a professor, in English at the air force academy And I chose sort of to put; myself in a. year-long exile to write And cause I find that it's that. distance that gives you. kind, of a perspective on some o... | yeah. i'm in sort of a different situation. i'm kind i'm actually recently retired from the air force. and i was a professor in english at the air force academy. and i chose sort of to put myself in a year-long exile to write. and, cause i find that it's that distance that gives you kind of a perspective on some of th... |
So you're you've self-exiled yourself from the U.S. to write about the U.S.? | so you're you've self-exiled yourself from the u.s to write about the | So you're you've self-exiled yourself from the U.S to write about the | so you're you've self-exiled yourself from the u.s. to write about the u.s.? |
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Yes. I'm blogging also about war literature which is sort of my passion, but I'm also a fiction writer. And, you know, historically, getting perspective and sort of stepping back and hearing different voices around you, it's like being in your own imaginative bubble in a way. You hear all these voices that sort of work... | yes i'm blogging also about war literature which is sort of my passion, but i'm also a fiction writer and you know historically getting perspective and sort; of stepping back and hearing different voices around you it's like being in your own imaginative bubble in a, way you hear all these voices that sort of work thro... | Yes I'm blogging also about. war literature which is sort of, my passion but I'm also a; fiction writer And you know. historically getting perspective and sort of stepping back and, hearing different voices around you. it's like being in your own imaginative bubble in a way You hear all these voices that sort of work t... | yes. i'm blogging also about war literature which is sort of my passion, but i'm also a fiction writer. and, you know, historically, getting perspective and sort of stepping back and hearing different voices around you, it's like being in your own imaginative bubble in a way. you hear all these voices that sort of work... |
All right. Well, Jay, thanks so much for the call. Edwidge Danticat, do you think there are things you can say about Haiti that you just couldn't have had you stayed there? | all right well jay thanks so much for. the call, edwidge danticat. do you think there are things you can say about haiti that you just; couldn't have; had. you stayed | All right Well Jay thanks so much for the. call Edwidge Danticat do you think there are things you can say about Haiti that; you just couldn't have had, you stayed | all right. well, jay, thanks so much for the call. edwidge danticat, do you think there are things you can say about haiti that you just couldn't have had you stayed there? |
Well, I... | well. | Well | well, i... |
And not just politically, but just things that you wouldn't have even thought the same way or looked at things the same way. | and not just, politically but just things that you wouldn't have, even thought the same way or looked at things the same | And not just politically but just things that you. wouldn't have even thought the; same way or. looked at, things the same | and not just politically, but just things that you wouldn't have even thought the same way or looked at things the same way. |
Probably. I think there's the value of distance, as we've been talking about, even linguistic distance in my case because English is my third language. So there's a level of sort of social politeness or level of fear of offending that you benefit from. For example, I always say that I have a year, for example, between ... | probably i, think there's the. value of distance as we've been talking. about even linguistic distance in my case because english is, my third language. so there's a level of sort of, social politeness or level of, fear of. offending that you benefit from for example i always say that i have a year, for example between... | Probably I think. there's the value of distance as we've been talking about even linguistic distance in my case because English is my third language So there's a level of sort. of social politeness or level of fear of offending that you. benefit from For, example I always say that I have. a year. for example between tr... | probably. i think there's the value of distance, as we've been talking about, even linguistic distance in my case because english is my third language. so there's a level of sort of social politeness or level of fear of offending that you benefit from. for example, i always say that i have a year, for example, between ... |
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So there are certain - there's a certain level of freedom that, perhaps one allows oneself that one may not from inside the language or inside the culture. So that's something that I've always thought as possibly one of the consoling benefits of being in a situation where you're outside the place where you were born. | so there, are certain - there's a certain; level of freedom that perhaps one allows oneself that one may not, from. inside the language or inside the culture so that's something that. i've always thought. as possibly. one. of the consoling benefits of being in a situation where you're outside. the, place where you were... | So there are. certain - there's a certain level of freedom that perhaps, one allows oneself that one may not from inside the language; or inside the culture So that's. something that I've always thought as possibly one, of the consoling benefits. of being in a situation where you're outside. the place where you were | so there are certain - there's a certain level of freedom that, perhaps one allows oneself that one may not from inside the language or inside the culture. so that's something that i've always thought as possibly one of the consoling benefits of being in a situation where you're outside the place where you were born. |
Hmm. Chenjerai Hove, who do you write for? Are you writing for Zimbabweans at home or abroad like you, or for Westerners or do you think about that? | hmm chenjerai hove who do you write for? are you writing for zimbabweans at home. or abroad like you. or for westerners or do you think about | Hmm; Chenjerai Hove who do you write for? Are you writing for Zimbabweans at, home or abroad like you. or for Westerners or do you think about | hmm. chenjerai hove, who do you write for? are you writing for zimbabweans at home or abroad like you, or for westerners or do you think about that? |
I actually, to be honest, when I'm writing I just want to express myself sincerely about a subject. I cannot stand up and say I write for so and so, for Zimbabweans, because they didn't elect me to write. I write because I have my conscience which says I should write certain things, which certain stories or poems, whic... | i actually to be honest when i'm writing i just want to express myself sincerely about a. subject i cannot stand up and say i write for so and so for zimbabweans because they didn't elect me to write i write because i have; my conscience which says. i should write certain things which certain stories or poems; which if... | I actually, to be honest when, I'm writing I just want to express, myself sincerely about; a subject I cannot stand up and say I write for so and; so for Zimbabweans because they didn't elect me to write I write because I, have, my conscience which says I should write certain things which. certain stories or poems, whi... | i actually, to be honest, when i'm writing i just want to express myself sincerely about a subject. i cannot stand up and say i write for so and so, for zimbabweans, because they didn't elect me to write. i write because i have my conscience which says i should write certain things, which certain stories or poems, whic... |
But what I'm also doing is, by communicating with myself in my writing, I also, in the process, discover the other. I will resonate with the others, with the other people who would read. So in a situation also when, for example in my country, the economy is in rather bad shape, you cannot assume that people can afford ... | but, what i'm also doing is by communicating with myself in my writing i also in, the process discover, the other i will resonate with the others with, the other people, who would read so in a situation also when for example in my country the economy is in rather bad, shape you cannot assume that people can afford to j... | But what I'm also doing is by communicating with myself in my writing I also in the process discover the other I will resonate with the others with the other people who would read So in a situation also when for example in my country the economy is in rather bad shape you cannot assume that people can afford to just wa... | but what i'm also doing is, by communicating with myself in my writing, i also, in the process, discover the other. i will resonate with the others, with the other people who would read. so in a situation also when, for example in my country, the economy is in rather bad shape, you cannot assume that people can afford ... |
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